Hello,
I’m taking advantage of the forum reopening to ask this question:
For her 70th birthday, my mom will receive—as a gift—a trip to South Africa at the end of May 2025.
We’ll arrive and depart (13 nights later) from JNB on Air France AF990/AF995. We’ll obviously rent a car for certain parts of the trip.
I’ve been to the Cape Town area and as far as Agulhas twice, but she’s never been to South Africa before. She might enjoy a day or two of safari, but it’s not a priority for her. I’m well aware that trying to pack in too much is risky, which is why I’m looking for your advice on itineraries, safety, and health (status of the Marburg virus).
So far, which combinations of these visits (in no particular order) would be doable and most enjoyable for her at a reasonable pace:
1-day excursion to Pilanesberg Park (+ Hartbeespoort on the way back if possible), self-drive or with a tour guide?
2 nights around the Panorama Route self-driving
Garden Route from/to George/PLZ for 5 nights (what are the must-sees for a first-timer with so little time?)
Wine region for 2 nights (is it worth doing both the Stellenbosch bus tour and the Franschhoek Wine Tram the next day, or vice versa)—she loves good wine!
Cape Town for 2 nights (is it worth stopping at the Cape of Good Hope if—only if—you’ve maybe already been to Agulhas?).
This would give a final itinerary like this:
Day 1: Morning arrival in JNB—rest day/to be defined
Day 2: Guided game drive excursion to Pilanesberg Park
Day 3: Flight JNB–Port Elizabeth, pick up rental car, drive to Tsitsikamma
Day 4–6: Garden Route: activities to be defined
Day 7: Transfer to Franschhoek: Wine Tram in the afternoon
Day 8: Taxi to Stellenbosch for the Vine Hopper bus tour
Day 9–11: Transfer to Cape Town: activities to be defined
Day 12: Flight from Cape Town to Hoedspruit or Nelspruit
Day 13: Visit the Panorama Route
Day 14: Flight from Hoedspruit or Nelspruit to JNB, then evening flight back to France
Given the time spent on the Garden Route, what are the must-sees? Same question for the Panorama Route?
In general, she prefers beautiful walks with incredible landscapes/views and cultural visits over big cats, but it would be a shame not to see some local wildlife like meerkats, whales (I doubt it in May), or penguins during her stay!
There you go—feel free to critique (not too harshly, though😛)/advise/improve.
Thanks in advance! 🙂
Of course, your plan is totally doable as is. A few questions and suggestions, though.
Why not keep the car from Port Elizabeth to Cape Town for more flexibility?
Babylonstoren, north of Stellenbosch, is worth the detour for its gardens, wines, and way of life.
In Cape Town, don’t miss the Zeitz MOCAA (contemporary art)—it’s unique on the continent.
At Cape of Good Hope, now very developed, there are often more penguins on the boardwalks than on the beaches.
To cut down on travel time, consider swapping Pilanesberg for Addo Elephant Park near Port Elizabeth. If you keep Pilanesberg, you could head there on the day of arrival (about 3h from JNB) and spend the first night there.
With the same goal, especially if you keep the car from Day 3 to Day 12, swap the Panorama Route for a detour into the Karoo, focusing on its mountain ranges (for the views), like the Swartberg Mountains—plus the bonus of semi-desert landscapes.
I find it odd to have so many domestic flights for a trip that’s meant to be relaxing?
It’s exhausting to have so many flights, and it’s a big time-waster over such a short period.
If the tickets haven’t been bought yet, it’d be better to do a round trip to Cape Town and plan a loop from there (like Cape Town, the wine regions, Karoo NP—wildlife + landscapes—and return along the ocean).
If the tickets are already booked, then it might be best to focus on the Johannesburg-Durban area.
For example: Pretoria (history and culture), Marakele NP (wildlife and landscapes), Pilanesberg (wildlife and landscapes), fly to Durban, and head back via the Drakensberg (landscapes and culture) before finishing the trip in Joburg (history and culture).
Or a middle-ground option if flights are already booked:
Arrive in Joburg – Joburg
Domestic flight to Cape Town
Cape Town, wine regions, Karoo NP (landscapes and wildlife), Graaff-Reinet (history), Mountain Zebra NP (landscapes and wildlife), return the car in Port Elizabeth, fly back to Joburg, and last night in Pretoria.
Happy planning!
(Agulhas and Cape of Good Hope aren’t redundant.)
(The Drakensberg, like all high-altitude areas, can be quite chilly in May.)
Ponts du monde : concours de photos amical de juillet 2026
Rubrique Jeux Voyages
C'est le moment de poster vos meilleurs clichés !
Hello!
Lots to see in a short time!
Why not try this:
Arrive in Cape Town (CT)
Then from CT to Port Elizabeth (PE)
Flight to Johannesburg (Joburg), then flight to Hoedspruit or Skukuza
Or drive to Kruger National Park (KNP) via Panorama Route
Return flight from Hoedspruit or Skukuza
To Joburg for departure
Alternatively:
Arrive in CT
Do this part, then fly to Hoedspruit or Skukuza
Return either via Panorama Route to Joburg or fly from Hoedspruit/Skukuza
This is my first draft
Hello!
This makes me so happy!
For the penguins:
If you enter early in the morning through the small gate on the west side, you’ll reach a little beach that’s often not too crowded.
Hello
So much in so little time...
Why not do
Arrival in CPT
Then from CPT to PE
Flight to Joburg then flight to Hoedspruit or Skukuza
Or drive to KNP via Panorama Route
Return flight from Hoedspruit or Skukuza
To Joburg and departure
Or arrival in CPT
Do this part then fly to Hoed or Skukuza
Then return either via Panorama Route to Joburg or flight from Hoed or Skukuza
This is my first approach
This is a general response to everyone (whom I thank by the way, since apparently you're all experts). No, it's not too much in too little time—just to clarify, I’d like your help with the essential attractions/ideal itinerary (without paying an agency) so my mom can enjoy it to the fullest (and definitely not at a rushed pace) and at her own rhythm—even if it means cutting some stops.
1) I have Accor points (non-refundable) that need to be used (i.e., booked) before December 5, 2024. They cover 2 rooms for 2 nights in Jo’burg—which is why I thought of Pilanesberg in between. The other Accor hotels are in Cape Town (1 room/1 night) or Nelspruit (1 room/2 nights)—not many options in South Africa!
3) The long-haul flights with Air France are already booked—so arrival at JNB (unless there’s a last-minute airline change) is theoretically at 8:10 AM, and departure 14 days later at 6:50 PM. That leaves some wiggle room on the first and last days.
4) Overall—and as of now—the 3 domestic flights (multi-destination with Air Link) cost 200 € per person. Not driving to JNB will help avoid traffic and the stress of returning on the last day!
5) The car will be used on the Garden Route and the Winelands, then the Panorama Route (essential for that stretch).
6) Addo Elephant Park? Why not! But it adds time from Port Elizabeth to Cape Town (currently limited to 3 days). At worst, other reserves or the Karoo (what are the highlights?) if it fits naturally into this itinerary.
7) Sure, it’s a gift for my mom, but I’ve never seen the Blyde River Canyon—it’s a unique opportunity to kill two birds with one stone. (But shhh, don’t tell her!)😉
The feedback is great because there are lots of ideas that will shape the final route, so don’t hesitate!🙂
I have non-refundable Accor points that need to be used (=booked) before December 5, 2024
Cape Town seems like the best option. Nelspruit isn’t very interesting. Johannesburg, well, I wouldn’t stay there for 2 nights (am I wrong?)
as many accommodations as possible will be booked using Air France air miles
Doesn’t seem like there’s much choice in South Africa, right?
not driving to JNB will help avoid traffic and the stress of returning on the last day!
Coming back from the east (Blyde Canyon), we avoid the city. 😉
At worst, other reserves or the Karoo if it fits naturally into this itinerary
I’m not a huge fan of Addo, but it’s the only Big Five reserve in the area.
Karoo NP has varied wildlife and much prettier landscapes, but no Big Five.
This park fits well into a route around the Cape, arriving from the west (the vineyards) and, in a shorter version, returning via the south through Swartberg Pass and the coast.
I don’t know the Blyde River Canyon
It’s nice, but I don’t see the point of making a round trip just for that area...
The Drakensberg has more to offer.
Might as well go as far as the nearby Kruger, which would make a small loop around Cape Town without an animal park, then another loop from Nelspruit Airport including Kruger and Blyde.
Skip Pilanesberg then—it’s not the best anyway.
Arrival JNB - Visit JNB - night in JNB
Flight to Cape Town Loop
Flight to Nelspruit Loop
Return by car to JNB or by plane - last night in Pretoria
Not too tiring, aside from the domestic flights, very few nights in animal parks, but still the best: Blyde, Cape Town, the vineyards.
Ponts du monde : concours de photos amical de juillet 2026
Rubrique Jeux Voyages
C'est le moment de poster vos meilleurs clichés !
Good evening,
I’m replying to Attila’s post because I largely agree with his opinion.
Okay, so we arrive in Joburg and depart from Joburg.
From Cape Town (CT), you can reach Hoedspruit or Skukuza.
Or Nelspruit (now called Mbombela), but there’s only one flight per day and it’s quite late.
Connections from Port Elizabeth (PE) or George all go back through Joburg.
So logically, it makes sense to keep Joburg as the entry/exit point and use Hoedspruit or Skukuza as bases.
I’d skip Joburg and head straight to CT.
I’d spend time exploring around CT:
- The Peninsula
- Penguins
- Table Mountain
- Whether or not to visit the vineyards
- Maybe head to West Coast National Park
- Even a quick trip to Cederberg
- Return via Mossel Bay
Basically, I’d spend a good chunk of time in a relatively small area (more relaxing).
Then I’d leave CT for Hoedspruit or Skukuza.
From Hoedspruit, I’d visit Blyde River Canyon.
And then...
Either I’d limit myself to the Kruger National Park (KNP) around Orpen, Satara, or Mopani.
Or...
I’d consider a private reserve (oh, Mrs. Attila might not agree here).
Like Honeyguide in Manyeleti (more relaxing)
Or Shindzela in Timbavati (a bit trickier with timing, so Honeyguide is probably better—it’s one I know well).
I think both can pick you up.
And I’d depart from Hoedspruit.
Alternatively, I’d arrive at Skukuza (fewer flights, but car rental is possible, and it’s the heart of Kruger).
It’s not the wildest camp, sure, but in this case, it’d be practical.
I’d stick to Skukuza, Berg-en-Dal, and Lower Sabie.
Then I’d drive back to Joburg via Blyde River Canyon, with Graskop or Sabie as a base.
It’s not too difficult—you arrive from the east, so there aren’t many towns.
It’s doable from Graskop, but if you want to take it easy, you could stop overnight in Dullstroom.
There you go!
These past three years have been all about South Africa for me.
(No teasing from the old-timers, please!)
In the eastern part, from north to south,
And in the west, around CT.
The eager ones can wait for my upcoming travel journal summary...
Hello,
I agree with Michel 85200—one night in a private reserve is exceptional.
Shindzela is still affordable, and you can see lots of animals off-road.
We’re heading back to northern South Africa in June 2025.
We’ll spend 20 days in Kruger, including 2 nights again at Shindzela.
Best regards
Yes, thanks Michel. Great to see the regulars again 😛
Likewise! But I wonder if the regulars didn’t knock Soulfull out. Hope he bounces back faster than Michel, who still hasn’t recovered from his unfortunate run-in with a sausage tree. 😏
Yes, thanks Michel. Great to see the regulars again 😛
Shared pleasure, but I wonder if the regulars didn’t knock out Soulfull. Hope he recovers faster than Michel, who still hasn’t bounced back from his unfortunate collision with a sausage tree. 😏
A man with a "full soul" won’t take offense that old acquaintances are catching up in his thread and will forgive our slip-ups 😊.
Hello everyone, so happy to see you all again after this long imposed silence.
I’m still sorting out some IP address issues with the new site owner, but I hope to keep exchanging tips.
And thanks to Soulfull for his kindness.
"Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages, mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux."
Marcel Proust
Yes, thanks Michel. Great to see the regulars again 😛
Shared pleasure, but I wonder if the regulars didn’t knock out Soulfull. Hope he recovers faster than Michel, who still hasn’t gotten up after his unfortunate collision with a sausage tree. 😏
No, not at all! Thanks for checking in on my health. I just need to catch up since I’ve been traveling recently!😛
Attila
Rjulie
Voyajou
It’s party time!!!!!
Yes, thanks Michel. Great to see the regulars again 😛
Shared pleasure, but I wonder if the regulars didn’t knock out Soulfull. Hope he recovers faster than Michel, who still hasn’t gotten up after his unfortunate collision with a sausage tree. 😏
A man with a "full soul" won’t take offense that old friends are reuniting in his thread and will forgive our slip-ups 😊
Hi everyone, happy to see you all again after this long imposed silence.
I’m still having some IP address issues to sort out with the new site owner, but I hope to keep exchanging.
And thanks to Soulfull for his kindness.
My pleasure, and no, quite the opposite—it’s even better when veterans chime in and reconnect. Everyone’s welcome here!🙂
Thanks for your understanding, though I’m not sure “veterans” will be a hit with everyone 😄.
Anyway, you’re in good hands here—well, except for mine, since I’ve only been to this amazing country once so far!
"Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages, mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux."
Marcel Proust
What a lovely community here with such a warm welcome 😎.
My mom’s birthday is in early November. She’ll receive her paper guides (Michelin 2025 and *Petits Futés Carnets* 2025) and "officially" her tickets then, but I’ll need to advise her (thanks to you all—thank you 😉) and leave her some flexibility to choose "her" activities .
I have non-refundable Accor points that need to be used (=booked) before December 5, 2024
Cape Town seems like the best option. Nelspruit has no appeal. Johannesburg—well, I wouldn’t stay there for two nights (am I wrong?)
As many accommodations as possible will be booked using Air France air miles
There doesn’t seem to be a huge selection in South Africa, right?
Not driving to JNB will help avoid traffic and the stress of returning on the last day!
Coming back from the east (Blyde Canyon), we’ll skip the city. 😉
At worst, other reserves or the Karoo if it fits naturally into this itinerary
I’m not a big fan of Addo, but it’s the only Big Five reserve in that area.
Karoo NP has diverse wildlife and much prettier landscapes, but no Big Five. The park fits well into a Cape Town circuit with an arrival from the west (the vineyards) and, in a shorter version, a return via the south through Swartberg Pass and the coast.
I don’t know the Blyde River Canyon
It’s nice, but I don’t see the point of making a round trip just for that area… The Drakensberg has more to offer.
So, why not push on to the nearby Kruger, which would make a small loop around Cape Town without an animal park, then another loop from Nelspruit Airport including Kruger and Blyde.
Pilanesberg is out—it’s not the best anyway.
Arrival: JNB - Visit Johannesburg - Night in JNB
Flight to Cape Town Loop
Flight to Nelspruit Loop
Return by car to JNB or by plane - Last night in Pretoria
Not tiring except for the domestic flights, very few nights in animal parks, but still the best: Blyde, Cape Town, the vineyards.
Two Mercure hotels in Jo’burg (affordable for 2 nights with 2 rooms) and 1 in Nelspruit, 1 Pullman in Cape Town (way over budget for the three of us with 2 rooms ), and 2 or 3 Mantis lodges (even more over budget elsewhere). If there’s nothing interesting in Johannesburg for 2 days, worst case, the Accor points will be used for a wedding in Belgium in July 2025.
For Flying Blue hotels (2 rooms - 3 people), availability is much better (well, depending on the dates). Why do you recommend staying in Pretoria (over Johannesburg on the return)?
So, you two are suggesting two loops around Cape Town and Kruger? Loops are great because renting a car costs less. No Garden Route or Drakensberg, then. How should the time be split between the two loops? 50/50? I think one park is enough, and if Kruger is possible and available with the Big Five, that’s great. What’s the ideal duration to enjoy it as a first-time visit? And which area(s) should we go to?
Good evening,
I’m replying to Attila’s message because I largely agree with their opinion.
We arrive in Joburg and leave from Joburg.
From CT, you can fly to Hoedspruit or Skukuza.
Or Nelspruit (now called Mbombela), but there’s only one flight per day, and it’s quite late.
Connections from PE or George all go through Joburg.
So logically, it makes sense to keep Joburg as the entry/exit point and Hoedspruit or Skukuza as bases.
I’d skip Joburg and head straight to CT.
I’d explore around CT:
Peninsula
Penguins
Table Mountain
Whether or not to visit the vineyards
I could go to West Coast NP
Or even make a quick trip to Cederberg
Return via Mossel Bay
Basically, I’d spend a good amount of time in a fairly small area (more relaxing).
Then I’d fly from CT to Hoedspruit or Skukuza.
From Hoedspruit, I’d visit Blyde.
And...
Either I’d limit myself to the KNP at Orpen, Satara, or Mopani.
Or...
I’d consider a private reserve (oh, Ms. Attila might not agree).
In Manyeleti, like Honeyguide (more relaxing).
In Timbavati, like Shindzela (more complicated timing, so Honeyguide is better—it’s one of the examples I know).
I think both can pick you up.
And I’d fly out of Hoedspruit.
Or I’d arrive at Skukuza (fewer flights, car rental possible, heart of Kruger).
It’s not the wildest camp, sure, but in this case, it’d be practical.
I’d stick to Skukuza, Berg-en-Dal, Lower Sabie.
Then I’d drive back... to Joburg via Blyde, with Graskop or Sabie as a base.
It’s not difficult at all.
We arrive from the east, so few cities.
It’s doable from Graskop, but if you want to be very relaxed,
You can stop overnight in Dullstroom...
There you go.
These last three years have been in South Africa.
(Don’t laugh, you old-timers!)
In the eastern part, from north to south,
And in the west, around CT.
The patients will have to wait for a summary travel journal to come...
Thank you so much for this detailed response.
Airlink has direct flights from PE to Nelspruit. Same question about the stay distribution—any advice?
All these names inside and outside the parks have me lost—I’ll look them up one by one—but clearly, the Panorama Route from your journal is a real draw. Unless the Drakensberg is possible in one of your many combinations. Do your two loops differ from your friend Attila’s 😉? Which place or park with the Big Five should we visit?
I keep seeing issues with booking in Kruger—isn’t it too late if we book in mid-to-late November?
Thank you for your triple journal—exactly the info and recommendations I need right now—I’m eagerly waiting for the rest 🙂
Good evening,
Late May—just a heads-up, it can get chilly around Joburg.
A beanie and a thick fleece aren’t overkill for a game drive.
Personally, the sooner you leave Joburg, the better.
Why spend a night on the way back in Joburg or Pretoria? You can find flights to skip that.
Pretoria’s safer and has history, but it’s not worth it for such a short stay.
Yeah, I’d go with two loops of equal length.
Keep it simple—enjoy instead of rushing.
With that in mind, stick close to Cape Town (CT) without venturing too far.
Take a flight straight east to Joburg, then drive to the Panorama Route.
Book a reserve in Manyeleti and return via Hoedspruit by plane to Joburg for your flight back.
Simple and efficient.
I keep seeing issues with booking in Kruger—is it too late if I book mid-to-late November?
🙂
Hi there,
We’re heading out around the same time for a month, including 20 days in Kruger.
Bookings are getting tough for that period, especially in the bush camps and popular spots like Lower Sabie.
In my opinion, you shouldn’t wait too long to reserve.
While I’m at it—does anyone know a good place to stay overnight halfway between Marakele and Mapunggubwe?
Thanks Michel,
That does sound good, but I’m straying from my route via Lephalale, Marken, Baltimore, and Alldays.
I should’ve mentioned in my question that it could be either camping or a lodge.
For now, the only accommodation I’ve found is near Marken (Ehlathini Lodge), but we’ve already stayed there and wanted to try somewhere new—especially since it seems the service has gone downhill. And the meals weren’t great to begin with.
Why do you recommend staying in Pretoria (over Jo'burg on the way back)?
Just for a change...😛
Personally, I wouldn't go to either, but since the brief includes air transfers, no tiring circuit, and no road travel before the return flight, I adapted!
Pretoria is just as accessible as Joburg from the airport.
So you (both) recommend two loops around Cape Town and Kruger?
Yes
No Garden Route or Drakensberg then
The loop around Cape Town can be longer or shorter depending on your preferences, so you can include a bit of the Garden Route or the Great Karoo—or even both.
Skip the Drakensberg, though, if you're going with the Kruger/Blyde duo.
How should I split the time between the two loops? 50/50? I think one park is enough, and if Kruger is available with the Big 5, that’s great. What’s the ideal duration for a first-time visit? And which zones should I go to?
I’d only dedicate 4 nights to the Kruger-Blyde loop:
Arrive for 2 nights in Kruger—so 3 days in the park—then 2 nights in Blyde, arriving in the late afternoon, giving you a day and a half there.
A combo of Olifants and Satara (central part of the park)
Or two nights in Lower Sabie (south).
If you’d like to do some walking, one of the park’s organized walking safaris is a fun activity (pre-book through SANParks, like the accommodations). Departure before dawn.
Ponts du monde : concours de photos amical de juillet 2026
Rubrique Jeux Voyages
C'est le moment de poster vos meilleurs clichés !
Hello,
Since it’s their birthday,
have you looked into the option of a private reserve?
It’s not the same as Kruger on your own.
But for a short stay for a 70-year-old who won’t be going back?
Less tiring,
all-inclusive,
game drives in an open vehicle,
and almost guaranteed to see **lots** up close.
Sure, the budget isn’t the same
I think one park is enough, and if Kruger is an option and available with the Big 5, then that’s great. What’s the ideal duration to enjoy it as a first-time visit? And which area(s) should I go to?
I think the best area is the southern part of Kruger, and if the camps are fully booked, there are plenty of accommodation options in Malelane or Phalaborwa. Okay, it’s not inside the park, but it can be a good backup.
Thanks so much to everyone for all your replies!
The full itinerary (with your precious recommendations) is coming soon 🙂:
BonsoirEnd of May
Be careful, it can be cold around Joburg
A beanie and a thick fleece on a game drive isn’t ridiculous
For me, the sooner we leave Joburg, the better
Why one night on the way back in Joburg or Pretoria???
You’ll have flights to avoid that
Pretoria is safer and has some history
But limited interest for such a short stay
Yes, two loops of equal length in my opinion
Keep it simple
Enjoy instead of rushing
With that in mind for two simple loops
Stick around CT without going too far
Take a full east flight to Joburg
Drive to the Panorama Road
Stay in a reserve in Manyeleti and return via Hoedspruit by plane to Joburg and flight back
Simple and effective
Your advice is simple but so valuable—last night, I managed to snag one of the last "BD3U" 😉 spots at Lower Sabie Rest Camp—6 months in advance . (8400 ZAR for 2 nights, how much to get the rental vehicle in?)
Just a quick question though—for you or anyone else!
In a YouTube video of Lower Sabie Rest Camp, a sign clearly states that morning bush walks (4h) are limited to ages 12–65.
My dear mom, who’s in great shape, is part of a local hiking group with outings twice a week year-round—she also does other sports (skiing, snowshoeing, and cycling). Of course, no one can predict what’ll happen in 6 months, but do you think it’s *really* forbidden for her to do these bush walks because they check IDs (I don’t mind walking—but 4 hours... yikes for mom 😛, I’d love to have that option), or do we need a medical certificate, or is a good tip enough since we’re in Africa?
In a YouTube video of the Lower Sabie Rest Camp, a sign clearly states that morning walks in the bush (4h) are limited to those aged 12-65.
My dear mum, who’s fit, is part of a local walking club with an average of two outings a week year-round—she also does other sports (skiing, snowshoeing, and cycling). Of course, no one can predict what’ll happen in six months, but do you think she’d really be banned from these bush walks because they check IDs (I don’t mind walking—but 4 hours... good grief, Angélique, for mum 😛, I’d love to have that option), or do we need a medical certificate, or is a good tip enough since we’re in Africa?
Hi,
Just like your mum, we’re used to hiking in the mountains, and we would’ve loved this activity!
No matter what answers you get, don’t do what we did!
We were particularly interested in these morning bush walks and signed up for the "hike," but not on the right day!
In fact, these walks took (or used to take) place on Wednesdays and Saturdays (if I remember correctly) and only in certain camps.
Not used to booking, we signed up for a Wednesday at the "right camp" where the activity does take place—but we forgot that to do the walk on Wednesday morning, you obviously need to book accommodation for Tuesday night, not Wednesday!
Long story short, we missed out...
We then opted for a short sunrise walk... There were about ten of us in single file with two armed guards (logical) and a few tourists, some of whom didn’t seem used to walking at all. One woman (South African) had a long dress as her "equipment," which kept getting caught on bushes. Maybe that’s why the 4-hour hike is reserved for those under 65!
We didn’t see much on this brief outing except for hippos in the distance, which we could only make out with binoculars—and we definitely weren’t supposed to get close...
In a YouTube video of the Lower Sabie Rest Camp, a sign clearly states that early morning bush walks (4h) are limited to those aged 12-65.
My dear mum, who’s fit, is part of a local walking club with an average of two outings a week all year round—she also does other sports (skiing, snowshoeing, and cycling). Of course, no one can predict what’ll happen in 6 months, but do you think it’s really off-limits for her to do these bush walks because they check IDs (I don’t mind walking—but 4 hours... good grief, Angélique, for mum 😛, I’d love to have that option), or do we need a medical certificate, or is a good tip enough since we’re in Africa?
Hi,
Just like your mum, we’re used to hiking in the mountains, and we would’ve loved this activity!
Whatever answers you get, don’t do what we did!
We were particularly interested in these early morning bush walks and had signed up for the "hike"—but on the wrong day!
These walks (used to) take place on Wednesdays and Saturdays (if I remember correctly) and only in certain camps.
Not used to booking, we signed up for a Wednesday at the "right camp" where the activity does happen—but we forgot that to do the walk on Wednesday morning, you obviously need to book accommodation for Tuesday night, not Wednesday!
Long story short, we missed out...
We later opted for a short sunrise walk... There were about ten of us in single file with two armed guards (logical), and a few tourists, some of whom didn’t seem used to walking at all. One woman (South African) had a long dress as her "gear," which kept getting caught on bushes. Maybe that’s why the 4-hour hike is limited to those under 65!
We didn’t see much on this short outing except for hippos in the distance, which we could only make out with binoculars—and we definitely weren’t allowed to get close...
Great tip, thanks so much for the valuable advice—she approves 😉
Hello
Never done a walk
I can’t answer that question
No worries! 🙂
Just to put your mind at ease, I’ve got two more questions for you 😛:
For budget reasons (from CPT), we’ll be arriving and departing (to JNB) from MQP Airport in Mbombela instead of Skukuza—it’s more than double the price, so we’re skipping it .
We’ve already booked two nights at Lower Sabie, and since you mentioned Mbombela isn’t very interesting to visit, I’ll use my Accor points for the stay in Cape Town. So, for the second-to-last day and final night, as we’re leaving Sabie, would you recommend heading to Berg en Dal, Crocodile Rest Camp, or Marloth Park? The last one seems popular (why???), even though it’s outside Kruger. (By the way, I like the idea of reducing costs by paying with points—but nothing’s set in stone—I’d rather make Mom happy if the game drives are better in one of the other two camps.)
After the morning, if our flight is at 1:20 PM (arriving at 2:15 PM for an Air France flight at 6:50 PM), does it seem doable or not to do a game drive, then drive to MQP and return the rental car?
Afrique de l'Est et Australe › Afrique du Sud · 3 replies
C'est avec plaisir que je viens vous demander votre avis, vous les pros de l'Afrique du Sud, sur mon projet d'itinéraire. Nous sommes allés en Namibie l'année…
Afrique de l'Est et Australe › Afrique du Sud · 15 replies
Nouveau voyage prévu, c'est l'afrique du sud pour 15 jours début mai. Avec ma copine on a commencé l'itinéraire mais comme a chaque fois on se rend compte…
Afrique de l'Est et Australe › Afrique du Sud · 14 replies
Si la Covid-19 le permet, nous aimerions passer 3 mois en Afrique du Sud (le pays). Nous y serions du 05 janvier au 5 avril 2021. Après la lecture du Routard,…
Compagnies aériennes › Afrique du Sud · 45 replies
Mon ami et moi préparons un long voyage autour du monde. Notre première escale: l'Afrique australe (Afrique du Sud, Namibie) puis Madagascar. Nous sommes…
Afrique de l'Est et Australe › Afrique du Sud / Botswana / Namibie · 9 replies
Je voudrais avoir des avis sur le lonely pour l'afrique du sud. J'ai fait un voyage en Inde de 4 mois et le lonely était ma bible (pour trouver les guest…
March or May 2027.
Around 15 days in the Western Cape,
then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George.
The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode...
From George:
Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1.
Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna.
Question:
What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339.
And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340.
Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed?
Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert?
If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts?
From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both).
Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area?
Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me...
(For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...).
Any feedback from the pros?
Well, that’s about it...
I’m open to any other tips or advice!
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
Hi there,
I’m considering camping in Nyungwe Park with my family (2 adults, 2 kids) at Uwinka campsite. Problem: the park rents the tent but without any gear (mattresses, blankets). We don’t have a car. Is it possible to rent or buy mattresses and blankets near the park, please?
Thanks for your help
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
Thanks
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Hello,
We’re planning a route from Maun to Kazane and Victoria Falls for May 2027 in a Toyota Hilux 4x4, staying in lodges (no camping). Here’s the rough outline:
- Maun: Arrival likely from Johannesburg, 2 nights
- Khwai: 2 nights
- Return to Maun
- Need to decide on a stop between Maun and Sepopa?
- Sepopa: 2 nights
- Cross into Namibia: Bagani, 2 nights
- Kongola: 2 nights
- Katima Mulilo: 2 nights
- Kasane: 3 or 4 nights
- Victoria Falls: 1 or 2 nights
- Return to France from Kasane or Victoria Falls
What’s the road condition like between Maun and Khwai? The stop names are approximate based on accommodations.
Thanks for any feedback on this plan!
Ailleurs 64
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks.
We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old.
We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions:
- How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?).
- Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice.
- I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that.
- Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas!
Gabriel
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg.
This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights).
D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights)
Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai).
D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights).
D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE).
D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6.
If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too.
Thanks! 🙂
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland.
Could you share any tips on:
- the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar)
- your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours
- reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are:
- Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional
- Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive
- Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me.
Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works...
Thanks to everyone for your help.
Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature.
😊🦁
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa?
As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult?
We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :)
We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend.
See you on the road with Doddy
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB
D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon
D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger
D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area
D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route)
D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this:
- Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective.
First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...).
That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on.
The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start...
During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.)
The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance.
Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page).
Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water),
– Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places,
– Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly,
– One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
---
Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored:
– services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water),
– hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments,
– visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly,
– one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment.
To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone.
Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera
Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo
Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera
Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?)
Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 4: Full day in Tarangire
Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO
Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome...
Thanks
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works.
I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!!
I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh…
Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car??
If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali?
Thanks so much for your help…
Best regards
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be:
- Hwange
- Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona)
- Mana Pools
- Harare
- Gonarezhou
- Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work.
I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts.
So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza
Ngenda
Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi
Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas)
Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions:
-Is French still widely spoken?
-Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info?
-Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back?
-Is it possible to go hiking solo?
-Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share.
Looking forward to exchanging more!
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind.
I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south:
14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie
17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza
20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara
22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants
25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere.
28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel.
29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance!
Nicole
Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’d like to return to Africa and stay in a lodge where I can see animals—not necessarily the Big Five—without needing any transport once I arrive at the lodge, and at a price under $250 per day for two people with full board. The week-long stay is planned for late June into early July. I’m looking for suggestions. Thanks in advance!
Hi, I’d like to travel to Ethiopia as a solo 60-year-old woman, backpacking style, between December 2025 and January 2026.
I’m wondering about the current state of the country: unrest, safety concerns, etc.
Government websites advise against going, saying it’s too dangerous.
But I’m skeptical—they tend to be overly cautious.
So I’m looking for reliable information, though I’m not sure where to find it.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
We’re a group of four seventy-something retirees and we’re planning a 4-week trip to South Africa. We’re seasoned "adventurers" used to multi-week stays (we’ve been to India seven times, Mexico, Thailand, Laos, Myanmar, Australia, etc.).
For South Africa, we’re thinking of covering most of the trip in a private vehicle and taking flights for inter-state transfers.
We’re interested in meeting people, learning about the country’s evolution, exploring major cities, visiting traditional villages, and seeing wildlife.
Here’s the itinerary we’re considering:
Johannesburg – 2 days (we’ll pass through again later)
Pretoria – 2 days
Blyde River Canyon and Graskop – 1 day
Acornhoek – 1 day
Letaba – 2 days
Lobamba – 2 days
Johannesburg – 1 day
Flight to Cape Town
Cape Town – 3 days
Cape of Good Hope – 1 day
Stellenbosch – 1 day
Hermanus – 1 day
Mossel Bay – 2 days
Oudtshoorn
Wilderness – 2 days
Knysna
Port Elizabeth – 2 days
Addo Elephant Park
Flight back to Johannesburg
Johannesburg – 1 day
Return to Paris
Could you share your thoughts on this itinerary? We’ll be renting a vehicle to explore both regions.
We can easily add 4–5 more days to the trip if needed.
We’re looking at traveling either between April and May 2026 or in October/November 2026.
I’ll follow up later to discuss the best safari options and get a rough budget estimate.
Thanks to everyone who takes the time to read this and share their thoughts!
