Voila, j'aimerais d'ici quelque année effectué un voyage d'un ans en compagnie d'une amie, notre destination serait l'asie du sud, l'inde, le népal, laos .... notre principale moyen de transport serait la marche et faire du stop, et si necessaire train, car... notre logement, des hotels au cadre très simple, et camper si cela savair necessaire. Pour cela j'aimerais avoir une idée aproximative du budget à economisé. Et biensur de tout les sages conseil que vous pourrez me donner. Très cordialement.
Voyage d'un an en Asie du Sud: Inde, Népal: budget à prévoir, démarches administratives?
by BJs
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour a tous,
Voila, j'aimerais d'ici quelque année effectué un voyage d'un ans en compagnie d'une amie, notre destination serait l'asie du sud, l'inde, le népal, laos .... notre principale moyen de transport serait la marche et faire du stop, et si necessaire train, car... notre logement, des hotels au cadre très simple, et camper si cela savair necessaire. Pour cela j'aimerais avoir une idée aproximative du budget à economisé. Et biensur de tout les sages conseil que vous pourrez me donner. Très cordialement.
Voila, j'aimerais d'ici quelque année effectué un voyage d'un ans en compagnie d'une amie, notre destination serait l'asie du sud, l'inde, le népal, laos .... notre principale moyen de transport serait la marche et faire du stop, et si necessaire train, car... notre logement, des hotels au cadre très simple, et camper si cela savair necessaire. Pour cela j'aimerais avoir une idée aproximative du budget à economisé. Et biensur de tout les sages conseil que vous pourrez me donner. Très cordialement.
Bonjour,
budget : compter 15 euros par jour Inde et Népal (on peut faire pour 5, pour 1000 aussi). Thaîlande : plutôt 20 euros... Indonésie : pareil, 15 euros, parfait...
les prix indiqués comprennent tout, càd achat de souvenirs, déplacement, bouffe, hotel, etc...hors vol intérieur.
Bon voyage
budget : compter 15 euros par jour Inde et Népal (on peut faire pour 5, pour 1000 aussi). Thaîlande : plutôt 20 euros... Indonésie : pareil, 15 euros, parfait...
les prix indiqués comprennent tout, càd achat de souvenirs, déplacement, bouffe, hotel, etc...hors vol intérieur.
Bon voyage
Salut,
Pour être plus précis, voici les prix moyens pour chaque jour à chacune des situations en INDE (les prix sont en roupies indiens) : hôtel (disons plutôt chambre avec vue sur 4 murs de béton défraîchis) en double : 80 (petite bourgade), 120 (moyenne ville), 150 à 250 (grandes villes) Camper : je te le déconseille, le prix des chambres est tellement minime par rapport aux troubles de s'installer en campement (surtout qu'il n'y a pas en Inde de site de camping, ou pratiquement pas) Au Népal, il est plus aisé de faire du camping.
Bouffe : petit déjeuné sur la rue, 10 à 20 roupies par personne déjeuné (toujours sur la rue) : 15 à 30 roupies dîner (idem) : 15 à 60 roupies (si tu vas dans un bon petit restaurant, ça peut aller jusqu'à 100 roupies par personne). Des fois les portions sur la rue sont vraiment grosse et un plat à deux suffit (dans certains cas).
déplacement Train : va sur ce site, ça va te donner les prix pour tous les trains existant en Inde Indian Railways Autobus : c'est un peu plus cher que le train, mais pas énormément.
Les sites touristiques Parfois, ça ne coûte rien, mais ça peut aller jusqu'à 1200 roupies (Agra, si tu visites le Taj et le Fort Rouge). Les prix sont aussi indiqués sur les sites internet.
En général, on peut vivre avec un minimum de 200 roupies en essayant d'économiser au maximum en Inde
Pour le Népal, c'est assez surprenant. Pour la bouffe, c'est un petit peu plus cher, pour l'hébergement, ça revient au même (sauf dans les grands parcs éloignés des grands centres, ce pourquoi la tente peut être une bonne option, quand c, est possible)
J'espère que cela t'aideras et bonne préparation
Pour être plus précis, voici les prix moyens pour chaque jour à chacune des situations en INDE (les prix sont en roupies indiens) : hôtel (disons plutôt chambre avec vue sur 4 murs de béton défraîchis) en double : 80 (petite bourgade), 120 (moyenne ville), 150 à 250 (grandes villes) Camper : je te le déconseille, le prix des chambres est tellement minime par rapport aux troubles de s'installer en campement (surtout qu'il n'y a pas en Inde de site de camping, ou pratiquement pas) Au Népal, il est plus aisé de faire du camping.
Bouffe : petit déjeuné sur la rue, 10 à 20 roupies par personne déjeuné (toujours sur la rue) : 15 à 30 roupies dîner (idem) : 15 à 60 roupies (si tu vas dans un bon petit restaurant, ça peut aller jusqu'à 100 roupies par personne). Des fois les portions sur la rue sont vraiment grosse et un plat à deux suffit (dans certains cas).
déplacement Train : va sur ce site, ça va te donner les prix pour tous les trains existant en Inde Indian Railways Autobus : c'est un peu plus cher que le train, mais pas énormément.
Les sites touristiques Parfois, ça ne coûte rien, mais ça peut aller jusqu'à 1200 roupies (Agra, si tu visites le Taj et le Fort Rouge). Les prix sont aussi indiqués sur les sites internet.
En général, on peut vivre avec un minimum de 200 roupies en essayant d'économiser au maximum en Inde
Pour le Népal, c'est assez surprenant. Pour la bouffe, c'est un petit peu plus cher, pour l'hébergement, ça revient au même (sauf dans les grands parcs éloignés des grands centres, ce pourquoi la tente peut être une bonne option, quand c, est possible)
J'espère que cela t'aideras et bonne préparation
Philippe Gingras
J'oubliais, pour ce qui est des démarches administratives, seulement un Visa pour l'Inde est nécessaire avant ton départ. Pour le Népal, tu pourras par la suite, rendu en Inde, passer par une des ambassades népalaise et ça coûte aussi moins cher de voyager à partir de l'Inde vers le Népal que d'aterrir en premier au Népal à partir de l'Europe ou de l'Amérique du Nord. Et c'est assez facile de faire le trajet en autobus pour se rendre au Népal (bien que pas très confortable). Pour certain états indiens, il y a des permis à avoir (Sikkim par exemple) et cela se fait assez facilement dans les Foreigners' Regional Registration Office dans toute grande ville (Kolkata, Delhi, Mumbai, Bangalore, etc.).
Philippe Gingras
hum,
j'aimerais revenir sur les tarifs qu'indique Philippe.
200 roupies en Inde, bien sûr que c'est possible, mais ça fait pas lourd quand même. Pour le prix des hôtels, d'accord avec les tarifs indiqués, sauf Bombay où les prix sont plutôt de 250 roupies par personne. Au prix indiqués, les hôtels dans le nord et notamment le rajasthan peuvent être tout à fait corrects, dans le sud (tamil nadu..), la description "vue sur 4 murs " est exacte.
Pour la nourriture, les prix indiqués, c'est exclusivement dans la rue...resto, c'est au minimum le double. un dal, plat on ne peu plus simple (riz, lentille, différentes sauce), c'est 60 à 70 roupies. en manger tous les jours, les Indiens le font, donc ç'est faisable, bien sûr, mais bon, si on va en Inde pour ne pas gouter à la cuisine exquise de ce pays... une bouteille de flotte, ça doit être 10 roupies, une banane, 1 roupie, 1 bouteille de truc petillant américain c'est 15 roupies en gros... Une nuit en train en sleeper class (on peut évidemment prendre la "classe bois", c'est rock'n'roll, mais faire ça 24 heures...- j'ai fait un plan pokara-goa en 4 jours en sautant d'un train à l'autre, dans les bus, tout ça sans réserver évidemment, ça laisse des souvenirs...impérissables...), c'est une nuit d'hôtel ( et 350 kms en gros).
Bref, claquer 200 roupies en Inde par jour, tu vas passer ton temps à compter ta thune...
en 98, j'y ai claqué 1200 francs français pour 50 jours (170 roupies/jour en gros): je dormais dans les gares assez régulièrement, et mangeait dans la rue ( et la visite du taj, ça devait être 25 roupies...)...mais j'avais déjà 10 mois de route derrière moi, donc "aguerri"...
allez, bon voyage
j'aimerais revenir sur les tarifs qu'indique Philippe.
200 roupies en Inde, bien sûr que c'est possible, mais ça fait pas lourd quand même. Pour le prix des hôtels, d'accord avec les tarifs indiqués, sauf Bombay où les prix sont plutôt de 250 roupies par personne. Au prix indiqués, les hôtels dans le nord et notamment le rajasthan peuvent être tout à fait corrects, dans le sud (tamil nadu..), la description "vue sur 4 murs " est exacte.
Pour la nourriture, les prix indiqués, c'est exclusivement dans la rue...resto, c'est au minimum le double. un dal, plat on ne peu plus simple (riz, lentille, différentes sauce), c'est 60 à 70 roupies. en manger tous les jours, les Indiens le font, donc ç'est faisable, bien sûr, mais bon, si on va en Inde pour ne pas gouter à la cuisine exquise de ce pays... une bouteille de flotte, ça doit être 10 roupies, une banane, 1 roupie, 1 bouteille de truc petillant américain c'est 15 roupies en gros... Une nuit en train en sleeper class (on peut évidemment prendre la "classe bois", c'est rock'n'roll, mais faire ça 24 heures...- j'ai fait un plan pokara-goa en 4 jours en sautant d'un train à l'autre, dans les bus, tout ça sans réserver évidemment, ça laisse des souvenirs...impérissables...), c'est une nuit d'hôtel ( et 350 kms en gros).
Bref, claquer 200 roupies en Inde par jour, tu vas passer ton temps à compter ta thune...
en 98, j'y ai claqué 1200 francs français pour 50 jours (170 roupies/jour en gros): je dormais dans les gares assez régulièrement, et mangeait dans la rue ( et la visite du taj, ça devait être 25 roupies...)...mais j'avais déjà 10 mois de route derrière moi, donc "aguerri"...
allez, bon voyage
Merci aussi pour toutes ces infos car je compte aussi commencer (peut-être) un voyage de 6 mois à partir de décembre 2008 en commençant par l'Inde pour continuer sur le Népal et faire la suite vers l'Asie du sud. Tous les tarifs sont les bienvenus. Question hygiène je présume qu'il faut quand même faire gaffe, non ?
Bonjour,
Je reviens de 11 mois en Asie (Chine, Asie du SE, Inde et Népal), et nous aurons dépensé 7430 € tout compris (dont visas, avions, assurance, quotidien….), ce qui fait un budget de 23€/jour/personne. N’est pas inclus dans ce total : l’équipement divers (duvet, polaire..), vaccins, médicaments, matériels électronique (appareil photos, disque dur..)… Sans avion, visa et assurance, cela fait 4750 € soit 15€/jour.
j'ai mis en ligne sur mon site le details de mon budget http://www.carnetderoute.fr/voyage2012/budget/
bon voyage !
Nicolas
Je reviens de 11 mois en Asie (Chine, Asie du SE, Inde et Népal), et nous aurons dépensé 7430 € tout compris (dont visas, avions, assurance, quotidien….), ce qui fait un budget de 23€/jour/personne. N’est pas inclus dans ce total : l’équipement divers (duvet, polaire..), vaccins, médicaments, matériels électronique (appareil photos, disque dur..)… Sans avion, visa et assurance, cela fait 4750 € soit 15€/jour.
j'ai mis en ligne sur mon site le details de mon budget http://www.carnetderoute.fr/voyage2012/budget/
bon voyage !
Nicolas
trés bon ton site, j'ai bien apprécié. Avez-vous été dans le sud du Myanmar ?
trés bon ton site, j'ai bien apprécié. Avez-vous été dans le sud du Myanmar ?
Merci. Le plus au sud qu'on ait fait est le rocher d'or et Hpa-an, qui est finalement à l'Est de Yangon. N'ayant qu'un visa d'un mois, on est plutot parti sur une boucle au nord avec les temples de Bagan, Mandalay, Pyin oo Lwin, un trek à Kyaukme, et un autre trek de Kalaw au lac inlé. Le sud sera pour un prochain voyage!
Merci. Le plus au sud qu'on ait fait est le rocher d'or et Hpa-an, qui est finalement à l'Est de Yangon. N'ayant qu'un visa d'un mois, on est plutot parti sur une boucle au nord avec les temples de Bagan, Mandalay, Pyin oo Lwin, un trek à Kyaukme, et un autre trek de Kalaw au lac inlé. Le sud sera pour un prochain voyage!
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I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
Hi there,
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Hi
Has anyone been to Rwanda recently and gotten a 3-month visa on arrival easily?
Thanks
Hi there,
My departure is slowly approaching, and now that I’ve got my Russian visa sorted, I’m fine-tuning the rest of my trip to Tajikistan. Since the Tajik visa is no longer required for stays under 30 days (for French nationals), I’ll need to visit the Ministry of Interior (OVIR) to register within 10 days of entering the country. No big deal, though, since I had to go there anyway to apply for my GBAO permit. 😉 However, I’ve *seen* several reports from travelers (mostly motorized) mentioning that you need an entry permit for Kyrgyzstan, which has to be arranged in advance at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) in Dushanbe. Otherwise, you’re *stuck* at the Kyzyl-Art border (with no Wi-Fi, of course, to try and sort it out). The most recent report was from a year ago, so I’d love to know if this is still the case and if it’s indeed at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) where you need to go for this pre-authorization.
Does anyone have any recent info on this?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone.
I’m leaving for almost 3 months in the Philippines (11 weeks total) starting in early May.
I already have my round-trip ticket.
The problem is, I don’t have time to get a 2-month visa because the process takes nearly a month.
From what I’ve read here and there, I need a return ticket valid for less than a month when I arrive in the Philippines to prove my good faith.
After that, I can apply for a 30-day extension at the immigration office.
I’m planning to either buy a fully refundable ticket to the nearest country or a fake ticket.
For 3 months, I’ll need to extend my visa two more times before my return date to France.
My question is this:
Will immigration ask me each time I extend my visa by one month to show proof of an exit ticket matching the new visa extension date?
Is it possible to extend directly by 2 months before the initial 30 days expire?
Thanks in advance for your experiences and tips! 😊
Hello to all the Thailand regulars.
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
My partner (Mexican) entered France on January 21st as a tourist. She was therefore entitled to stay for 90 days in the Schengen Area. She’ll be leaving for Mexico on April 16th, so she’ll have “used up” 86 days.
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?





