Voyage en Iran en couchsurfing chez l'habitant, visa à l'aéroport et voyage en couple
by Tibo2257
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Je m'adresse à toute la communauté voyage forum qui serait intérressée pour visiter l'Iran, un pays magnifique que ma petite amie et moi avons eu la chance de visite pendant les deux semaines de Pâques.
Nous avons payé 250€ notre aller retour depuis Marseille (possible de trouver encore moins cher avec Pegasus voire Turkish Airlines) et nous avons logé 12 nuits (et une seule en hôtel) chez l'habitant grâce à couchsurfing. Nous pouvons donner de nombreux détails et des réponses précises à celles et ceux qui seraient intéressés pour aller en Iran dans les prochaines semaines ou mois.
Nous avons donc logé chez l'habitant pratiquement tout le temps via le site couchsurfing même s'il est parfaitement possible de se faire loger chez l'habitant sans ce site ("à la volée" si je puis dire c'est à dire que les gens vous invitent alors que vous les rencontrez simplement dans la rue). Les Iraniens sont d'une gentillesse, d'une hospitalité et d'une générosité impressionnante! Ils vous invitent à dormir mais aussi à manger chez eux. La rencontre au plus près des Iraniens est donc une expérience immersive et passionnante. De plus, il ne faut pas cacher cet aspect, les économies réalisées sont importantes même si la vie en Iran est vraiment pas cher...
Je peux également parler des coûts : moins de 5€ (souvent même 2 ou 3€) pour faire des longues distances en bus (de 3 à 8 heures de bus : 4,5€ pour faire Yazd Téhéran par exemple).
Pour les visas, inutile de s'embêter avec toute la paperasserie et les problèmes d'aller à Paris pour obtenir le visa iranien. A l'arrivée à l'aéroport vous avez juste à donner votre passeport et 60€, même pas besoin de photos! Vous faites les empreintes digitales en 5 minutes et le tour est joué. En tout, avec l'attente, ça a du nous prendre 1h mais c'est sans doute pareil en France et là, vous arrivez tôt le matin donc autant éviter d'arriver chez votre hôte à 5h!
Pour le voyage en couple pas de soucis, on nous a souvent posé des questions sur notre relation mais le fait de nous savoir non marié à simplement étonné les Iraniens. Pas de réprobations. Ma copine a pu enlever le voile à chaque fois chez les gens ou dans les voitures et a pu fumer la Chicha sans problème. On peut également se donner la main, les gens regardent mais ne disent rien!
J'aurais bcp de choses à dire encore mais je préfère attendre les éventuelles questions!
en tout cas n'hésitez pas à y aller c'est un pays fantastique!
Salut Tibo, merci pour ce retour d'expérience !
Après un premier voyage réussis avec l'agence Clé2perse, j'envisage aussi d'essayer l’hébergement chez l'habitant par le site Couchsurfing. J'ai vu que dans les grandes villes Iraniennes tels que Téhéran, Ardabil ou Tabriz, ce sont plusieurs centaines de profils d'hôtes Iraniens potentiels qui sont inscrits. On peut même se payer le luxe de trouver des Iraniens francophones. Dans ce cas difficile de se décider. Alors que dans les villes de quelques dizaines de milliers d'habitants il n'y a logiquement que quelques profils actifs et qui ont réellement déjà hébergés des gens, le choix est plus rapide.
Peux-tu nous citer les villes que tu as visités et les personnes que tu recommande sur place ? Globalement nous dire comment cela s'est passé. Ces personnes appréciaient-elles par exemple les cadeaux, invitations au restaurant ou autres en échange de cette hospitalité. D'avance un grand merci.🙂
Peux-tu nous citer les villes que tu as visités et les personnes que tu recommande sur place ? Globalement nous dire comment cela s'est passé. Ces personnes appréciaient-elles par exemple les cadeaux, invitations au restaurant ou autres en échange de cette hospitalité. D'avance un grand merci.🙂
Peux-tu nous citer les villes que tu as visités et les personnes que tu recommande sur place ? Globalement nous dire comment cela s'est passé. Ces personnes appréciaient-elles par exemple les cadeaux, invitations au restaurant ou autres en échange de cette hospitalité. D'avance un grand merci.🙂
Salut! Ma copine et moi avons visité Téhéran, Kashan, Isfahan, Shiraz puis Yazd. Notre gros coup de coeur concerne évidemment Isfahan, beaucoup plus belle et agréable que les autres villes que l'on a pu faire. Téhéran (3j) est bruyant, pollué et presque dangereux niveau circulation. Il n'y a pas non plus énormément de choses à voir (même si les Iraniens vous diront l'inverse). Shiraz se fait rapidement (1 jours ou deux grand max) et Yazd est vraiment super (mais on a pu la visiter qu'un jour, pb d'emploi du temps). Pour les cadeaux on avait ramené un petit "paquet" pour chacun de nos hôte comprenant une carte postale de notre ville, du savon de Marseille (on habite pas loin) et du nougat. On savait pas trpo quoi acheter sans se ruiner non plus (8 hôtes en 12 jours) ni prendre toute la place dans la valise. A toi de réfléchir. Les gens ne s'y attendaient pas mais étaient très content à chaque fois. On nous a dit qu'arriver avec un petit cadeau était dans les coutumes en Iran, donc ils acceptent sans rechigner mais se montrent très reconnaissant! Après les Iraniens sont tellement généreux qu'ils accepteront très difficilement que tu leur paye le resto, le bus ou l'entrée au musée (quand ils t'accompagnent). Généralement, ce sont eux qui nous payaient tout ça malgré nos protestations! Il semble qu'il soit normal pour eux de s'occuper pleinement de leurs hôtes (même financièrement parlant donc). Sinon j'ai oublié de préciser que le couchsurfing est théoriquement interdit en Iran. Si la police venait donc à demander "où logez vous" il faut donner le nom d'un hotel du lonely planet (ou un autre, peu importe) mais surtout pas le nom ou les adresses de vos hôtes qui risquent gros! Enfin il y a en effet bcp de choix niveau couchsurfing à Téhéran, Ispahan mais un beaucoup moins à Shiraz, Yazd ou Kashan. Il faut s'y prendre un peu plus en avance (2 trois semaines c'est bien)
Salut! Ma copine et moi avons visité Téhéran, Kashan, Isfahan, Shiraz puis Yazd. Notre gros coup de coeur concerne évidemment Isfahan, beaucoup plus belle et agréable que les autres villes que l'on a pu faire. Téhéran (3j) est bruyant, pollué et presque dangereux niveau circulation. Il n'y a pas non plus énormément de choses à voir (même si les Iraniens vous diront l'inverse). Shiraz se fait rapidement (1 jours ou deux grand max) et Yazd est vraiment super (mais on a pu la visiter qu'un jour, pb d'emploi du temps). Pour les cadeaux on avait ramené un petit "paquet" pour chacun de nos hôte comprenant une carte postale de notre ville, du savon de Marseille (on habite pas loin) et du nougat. On savait pas trpo quoi acheter sans se ruiner non plus (8 hôtes en 12 jours) ni prendre toute la place dans la valise. A toi de réfléchir. Les gens ne s'y attendaient pas mais étaient très content à chaque fois. On nous a dit qu'arriver avec un petit cadeau était dans les coutumes en Iran, donc ils acceptent sans rechigner mais se montrent très reconnaissant! Après les Iraniens sont tellement généreux qu'ils accepteront très difficilement que tu leur paye le resto, le bus ou l'entrée au musée (quand ils t'accompagnent). Généralement, ce sont eux qui nous payaient tout ça malgré nos protestations! Il semble qu'il soit normal pour eux de s'occuper pleinement de leurs hôtes (même financièrement parlant donc). Sinon j'ai oublié de préciser que le couchsurfing est théoriquement interdit en Iran. Si la police venait donc à demander "où logez vous" il faut donner le nom d'un hotel du lonely planet (ou un autre, peu importe) mais surtout pas le nom ou les adresses de vos hôtes qui risquent gros! Enfin il y a en effet bcp de choix niveau couchsurfing à Téhéran, Ispahan mais un beaucoup moins à Shiraz, Yazd ou Kashan. Il faut s'y prendre un peu plus en avance (2 trois semaines c'est bien)
Bonjour Tibo
Tu confirmes donc que l'on peut avoir sans pb un visa a l’aéroport car il parait que cela s’était arrêté un moment. Faut il quand même un hôtel? juste un nom ou payé d'avance?
Nous partons en couple mi juin.
Saistu quelque chose sur le visa pour le Turkménistan et l’Ouzbékistan?
Merci d'avance de tes réponses et de ton enthousiasme qui donne envie de connaître ce pays. Amicalement Ghozolo
Merci d'avance de tes réponses et de ton enthousiasme qui donne envie de connaître ce pays. Amicalement Ghozolo
oui aucun problème pour le visa, vraiment. Après nous on a donné une lettre écrite par notre premier hôte mais au final je ne sais même pas s'ils s'en sont servi et si c'est vraiment nécessaire. En tout cas, si tu veux vraiment être certains, demande à ton hôtel ou à ton hôte de t'écrire une lettre d’invitation!
Pour le Turkménistan je sais qu'il n'y a que des visas de transit de 5 jours (que tu peux prendre en France où en Iran mais plus long et plus indécis, parcours les forums comme j'ai pu le faire). Au-delà pratiquement personne ne le fait car tu dois prendre un guide et ça coute quelque chose comme 50-100€ la journée. Et puis il parait que 5 jours c'est suffisant selon certaines personnes.
Pour l’Ouzbékistan je n'ai aucun renseignement à te fournir malheureusement, il faudra chercher, encore une fois, sur les forums!
Merci Tibo pour ces infos précieuses!
Merci pour tout!
Bonjour Thibaut,
Je suis allé en Iran au mois de mai dernier mais de façon plus traditionnel. J'ai tellement aimé que je souhaite y retourner l'an prochain mais cette fois ci par le biais du couchsurfing. Si vous aviez quelques adresses, opinions sur des habitants qui vous ont hébergé pendant votre périple. Pour ma part, nous avons aussi été hébergé par des locaux au hasard des rencontres mais pas sur tout le séjour. Merci pour votre réponse.
Francis
Je suis allé en Iran au mois de mai dernier mais de façon plus traditionnel. J'ai tellement aimé que je souhaite y retourner l'an prochain mais cette fois ci par le biais du couchsurfing. Si vous aviez quelques adresses, opinions sur des habitants qui vous ont hébergé pendant votre périple. Pour ma part, nous avons aussi été hébergé par des locaux au hasard des rencontres mais pas sur tout le séjour. Merci pour votre réponse.
Francis
Bonjour,
Préparant un voyage en Iran en couchsurfing chez l'habitant, et trouvant ton message très réaliste et excellent, je me permet, si tu es d'accord, de te demander ultérieurement d'autres renseignements
Merci
barmat
Salut tout le monde!!
J'ai une question et une grosse! Je pars dans douze jours en Iran. Je vous suit sur le principe, mais peut on se connecter à couchsurfing sur place?
J'ai une question et une grosse! Je pars dans douze jours en Iran. Je vous suit sur le principe, mais peut on se connecter à couchsurfing sur place?
Bonsoir Arnaud,
nous partons en Iran de mi juillet à mi août et on se demandait si vous aviez pu contacter Le système de Couchsurfing depuis les cybercafe sur place?? Sinon comment faire sur place car on n'a pas de programme pré défini donc pas de dates fixes?
Cordialement
evelyne et thierry
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That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
Hi there,
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Hi
Has anyone been to Rwanda recently and gotten a 3-month visa on arrival easily?
Thanks
Hi there,
My departure is slowly approaching, and now that I’ve got my Russian visa sorted, I’m fine-tuning the rest of my trip to Tajikistan. Since the Tajik visa is no longer required for stays under 30 days (for French nationals), I’ll need to visit the Ministry of Interior (OVIR) to register within 10 days of entering the country. No big deal, though, since I had to go there anyway to apply for my GBAO permit. 😉 However, I’ve *seen* several reports from travelers (mostly motorized) mentioning that you need an entry permit for Kyrgyzstan, which has to be arranged in advance at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) in Dushanbe. Otherwise, you’re *stuck* at the Kyzyl-Art border (with no Wi-Fi, of course, to try and sort it out). The most recent report was from a year ago, so I’d love to know if this is still the case and if it’s indeed at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) where you need to go for this pre-authorization.
Does anyone have any recent info on this?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone.
I’m leaving for almost 3 months in the Philippines (11 weeks total) starting in early May.
I already have my round-trip ticket.
The problem is, I don’t have time to get a 2-month visa because the process takes nearly a month.
From what I’ve read here and there, I need a return ticket valid for less than a month when I arrive in the Philippines to prove my good faith.
After that, I can apply for a 30-day extension at the immigration office.
I’m planning to either buy a fully refundable ticket to the nearest country or a fake ticket.
For 3 months, I’ll need to extend my visa two more times before my return date to France.
My question is this:
Will immigration ask me each time I extend my visa by one month to show proof of an exit ticket matching the new visa extension date?
Is it possible to extend directly by 2 months before the initial 30 days expire?
Thanks in advance for your experiences and tips! 😊
Hello to all the Thailand regulars.
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
My partner (Mexican) entered France on January 21st as a tourist. She was therefore entitled to stay for 90 days in the Schengen Area. She’ll be leaving for Mexico on April 16th, so she’ll have “used up” 86 days.
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie






