Voyage à Tokyo fin avril
by Luna1010
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour, je pars à Tokyo du 24 avril au 4 mai. Je n'arrive pas à me décider sur mon programme. Tokyo, Kyoto, Nara, Hakone, Mont Fuji, Kamakura, Nikko. Je sais que je ne pourrais pas tout faire. Mais c'est mon 1er voyage au Japon et je ne veux pas être déçue. Que me conseillez vous? 😕
je pars à peu près aux mêmes dates et pour la même durée et pour la première fois
mes choix ont été longs après avoir pas mal checké le net et ceux qui connaissent
j'ai choisi de retirer mont fuji (que tu vois bien d'hakone s'il fait beau et aussi de Kamakura) j'ai enlevé nikko (pour garder narra, ça fait bcp de bols de nature) et rajouter une journée à osaka depuis kyoto car mes amis japonais m'ont dit "c'est un peu le Marseille blade runner du Japon", à savoir une toute autre facette
il semble que tout cela soit jouable sans trop courir à savoir
tokyo 3 nuits
dont excursion hakone
kyoto 4 - 5 nuits
dont excursion nara
osaka 1 nuit
Kamakura 1 nuit
reste pour découvrit 1 peu plus tokyo
Merci pour ta réponse.
Je ne pense aller à OSAKA c'est trop court.
J'ai lu par contre que si tu allais à Kyoto, ça ne vaut pas le coup de se rendre à Kamakura car c'était un mini Kyoto si je puis dire ça ainsi.
A Kyoto et Hakone, as tu trouvé à dormir dans des ryokans?
J'imagine que tu fais le trajet Hakone -Kyoto. J'ai vu qu'il y avait peu de trains et ils mettent 3H30 ! Est ce que ce trajet est compris dans le JRP? L'as tu pris?
Pourquoi as tu privilégié Nara à Nikko?
Je réfléchis encore mais j'arrive à ce planning à ce jour:
3 nuits Tokyo
2 nuits Kyoto
4 nuits Tokyo dont une excursion à Nikko
Je veux prendre le temps, me balader. Mais j'hésite à supprimer Nara et Hakone. pas facile
Bonsoir
Attention à ne pas tomber dans les travers habituels des voyageurs qui vont au Japon pour la première fois: vouloir trop en faire.
Pour un séjour aussi court, il suffit de se fixer le but qui est de bien voir tout ce que l'on a prévu.
Déjà Tokyo est une ville énorme, on n'en fait pas le tour en 5 ou 6 jours.
Cela fait plus de vingt ans que j'y vais et j'en découvre encore chaque année.
Kyoto, j'y ai vécu plusieurs mois et je n'en ai pas vu le dixième.
Commencez par ces deux villes. Cherchez dans les guides quels sont vos point d'intérêt et vérifiez sur le forum si les visites sont facilement réalisables. Revenez poser vos questions ici, vous aurez toujours des réponses. Il y a de véritables spécialistes de Tokyo et Kyoto.
Ensuite, si vous avez le temps et l'envie de quitter ces villes pour couper un peu, Nikko est une belle destination, mais il faut savoir que certaines parties de quelques temples sont en cours de rénovation (Rinno-ji et Tôshô-gû).
Nara ne vaut pas la peine pour une première fois, Kamakura non plus.
Hakone n'est intéressant que si il fait super beau et surtout si vous y passez la nuit dans un ryokan avec onsen.
Bonne recherches!
Mes 25 ans de séjours au japon! http://www.soleilrouge.org/
Okinawa et Miyakojima: https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6477376;idl3=9084144203&idl=3731943&idl2=8709057
Sakura: Balade de printemps: https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6988760;idl3=9084144203&idl=3731943&idl2=8709057
Je réfléchis encore mais j'arrive à ce planning à ce jour:
3 nuits Tokyo
2 nuits Kyoto
4 nuits Tokyo dont une excursion à Nikko
Je veux prendre le temps, me balader. Mais j'hésite à supprimer Nara et Hakone. pas facile
Bonjour,
2 nuits à Kyoto est trop court, cela signifie que vous n'aurez qu'une journée entière pour visiter cette ville qui est vaste et variée.
D'autre part, la Golden Week commence le 29 avril (jusqu'au 6), les trains seront pleins au début et à la fin et les hébergements à Kyoto seront bondés durant une bonne semaine. Décidez donc vite des dates de visite de Kyoto (je vous conseille d'y aller directement en début de séjour et d'y passer au moins 3 nuits) et surtout faites vous réservations au plus vite.
Finissez votre séjour par Tokyo, y compris éventuellement Nikko sur une journée.
Bonjour,
2 nuits à Kyoto est trop court, cela signifie que vous n'aurez qu'une journée entière pour visiter cette ville qui est vaste et variée.
D'autre part, la Golden Week commence le 29 avril (jusqu'au 6), les trains seront pleins au début et à la fin et les hébergements à Kyoto seront bondés durant une bonne semaine. Décidez donc vite des dates de visite de Kyoto (je vous conseille d'y aller directement en début de séjour et d'y passer au moins 3 nuits) et surtout faites vous réservations au plus vite.
Finissez votre séjour par Tokyo, y compris éventuellement Nikko sur une journée.
tokyo 3 nuits
dont excursion hakone
kyoto 4 - 5 nuits
dont excursion nara
osaka 1 nuit
Kamakura 1 nuit
reste pour découvrit 1 peu plus tokyo
Ça fait 2 jours sur Tokyo ?! Vraiment trois fois trop court ! Il faut au moins y passer 5 jours intra-muros...
Je pense qu'ici Kamakura et Hakone sont de trop... voire Osaka... Ce séjour est court, s'en tenir à Tokyo - Kyoto sera à mon avis la meilleure manière d'avoir un vrai premier aperçu de ce pays.
Ça fait 2 jours sur Tokyo ?! Vraiment trois fois trop court ! Il faut au moins y passer 5 jours intra-muros...
Je pense qu'ici Kamakura et Hakone sont de trop... voire Osaka... Ce séjour est court, s'en tenir à Tokyo - Kyoto sera à mon avis la meilleure manière d'avoir un vrai premier aperçu de ce pays.
3 nuits Tokyo
2 nuits Kyoto
4 nuits Tokyo dont une excursion à Nikko
Je veux prendre le temps, me balader. Mais j'hésite à supprimer Nara et Hakone. pas facile
Il est clair qu'il manque au moins un jour à Kyoto (oublie définitivement Nara dans ce cas).
Ensuite, comme tu retireras une nuit à Tokyo, restes-en là sinon, ce sera alors trop court sur Tokyo...
Il est clair qu'il manque au moins un jour à Kyoto (oublie définitivement Nara dans ce cas).
Ensuite, comme tu retireras une nuit à Tokyo, restes-en là sinon, ce sera alors trop court sur Tokyo...
Le trajet tokyo/kyoto aller retour est le minimum à parcourir pour rentabiliser un JR Pass de 7 jours.
L'achat en agence ou par internet n'a aucune incidence sur le prix.(seuls les frais peuvent faire la différence).
L'augmentation de 3% au 1er avril est consecutive à celle de la TVA au Japon.
Pour ceux dont le budget est serré, ce paramètre est à prendre en compte: le séjour reviendra à 3% de plus...
Mes 25 ans de séjours au japon! http://www.soleilrouge.org/
Okinawa et Miyakojima: https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6477376;idl3=9084144203&idl=3731943&idl2=8709057
Sakura: Balade de printemps: https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6988760;idl3=9084144203&idl=3731943&idl2=8709057
Hello !
C'est marrant ! NOus partons aussi pour la 1ère fois au Japon, juste avant vous (du 10 avril au 22 donc même durée...) et nous avons les mêmes envies niveau villes. C'est exactement celles citées... Je suis consciente que ce sera un peu short niveau timming mais on va quand même essayer de le faire quitte à changer de programme sur place si nécessaire, selon les conseils des différentes personnes sur ce site... On prévoit : - 3 jours à TOKYO - 1 jour à NIKKO - 1 jour à KAMAKURA - 1 jour à HAKONE - 3 jours à TOKYO - 1 jour à NARA - 1 jour à TOKYO Conscients de passer du temps dans les transports mais bon...De toute manière, on aime bouger et découvrir tout le temps d'autres endroits...
Ce sera marrant de se dire, au retour, ce que finalement on aura fait, chacun... Bon voyage !!!! Claudine
C'est marrant ! NOus partons aussi pour la 1ère fois au Japon, juste avant vous (du 10 avril au 22 donc même durée...) et nous avons les mêmes envies niveau villes. C'est exactement celles citées... Je suis consciente que ce sera un peu short niveau timming mais on va quand même essayer de le faire quitte à changer de programme sur place si nécessaire, selon les conseils des différentes personnes sur ce site... On prévoit : - 3 jours à TOKYO - 1 jour à NIKKO - 1 jour à KAMAKURA - 1 jour à HAKONE - 3 jours à TOKYO - 1 jour à NARA - 1 jour à TOKYO Conscients de passer du temps dans les transports mais bon...De toute manière, on aime bouger et découvrir tout le temps d'autres endroits...
Ce sera marrant de se dire, au retour, ce que finalement on aura fait, chacun... Bon voyage !!!! Claudine
Conscients de passer du temps dans les transports mais bon...De toute manière, on aime bouger et découvrir tout le temps d'autres endroits...
Le problème est que dans les transports, vous ne découvrirez pas grand chose ... 😉
Sérieusement, considérez que le trajet Tokyo-Kyoto prend en réalité une demi-journée (paqueter, checkout, aller à la gare, 3 h de train, trouver votre hôtel, check-in...) et que 3 jours à Kyoto n'en sont finalement que 2, ce qui est peu pour une ville de cette taille et de cette variété.
Pour un si court séjour (si, si), faites sauter Kamakura et Hakone, éventuellement Nikko selon le temps qu'il fait, et donnez-vous davantage de temps pour profiter de Kyoto et Tokyo même, vu les environnements très variés qu'elles recèlent. Vous allez suffisamment bouger et découvrir dans ces deux villes, vous verrez !
Le problème est que dans les transports, vous ne découvrirez pas grand chose ... 😉
Sérieusement, considérez que le trajet Tokyo-Kyoto prend en réalité une demi-journée (paqueter, checkout, aller à la gare, 3 h de train, trouver votre hôtel, check-in...) et que 3 jours à Kyoto n'en sont finalement que 2, ce qui est peu pour une ville de cette taille et de cette variété.
Pour un si court séjour (si, si), faites sauter Kamakura et Hakone, éventuellement Nikko selon le temps qu'il fait, et donnez-vous davantage de temps pour profiter de Kyoto et Tokyo même, vu les environnements très variés qu'elles recèlent. Vous allez suffisamment bouger et découvrir dans ces deux villes, vous verrez !
Si si, je me suis trompée... avant NARA ce sera KYOTO et non pas TOKYO, où nous serons au début puis le dernier jour du voyage
Finalement je ne vais faire que Tokyo et Kyoto.
Sur Tokyo, je me pose plusieurs questions:
- au niveau des musées: je pense que le musée national est imanquable. Mais qu'en est il du musée Nezu, du musée d'art Suntory et du musée de la calligraphie? est ce que le musée national permet d'avoir une belle vision de la céramique et de la calligraphie?
- au niveau des jardins: jardin du palais imperial, rikugien, koishikawa korakuen, happo en, ueno? en sachant que la période des cerisiers en fleurs sera passée
- pour la cérémonie du thé: celle au jardin happo en vaut elle le coup? j 'hésite avec celle qui a lieu à kyoto avant le myiako odori
- pour les onsen: oedo monogatari à telecom center, toshimaen niwa no you à toshimaen, tokyo onsen sakura à sugamo?
Merci pour vos réponses!!!!
Musées: Le musée national permet de voir de tout, mais l'offre en musée spécialisés est telle à Tokyo qu'il vous faudra bien cibler. Attention aux distances ...
Question céramique, vous trouverez plus aisément à Kyoto (beaucoup concentrés dans les ruelles menant au Kiyomizu Dera et sur Gojo Dori). A Kyoto, le Fureiaikan dans la Miyako Messe à Okazaki (proche du Heian Jingu et du musée Hosomi) offre un bel aperçu de l'art et de l'artisanat traditionnel de la région.
Jardins: il y a aussi le Hama Rikyu. Les jardins du palais impérial, bof, franchement. Le parc Kitanomaru, proche du Budokan, est agréable aussi mais pas vraiment typiquement japonais.
Question céramique, vous trouverez plus aisément à Kyoto (beaucoup concentrés dans les ruelles menant au Kiyomizu Dera et sur Gojo Dori). A Kyoto, le Fureiaikan dans la Miyako Messe à Okazaki (proche du Heian Jingu et du musée Hosomi) offre un bel aperçu de l'art et de l'artisanat traditionnel de la région.
Jardins: il y a aussi le Hama Rikyu. Les jardins du palais impérial, bof, franchement. Le parc Kitanomaru, proche du Budokan, est agréable aussi mais pas vraiment typiquement japonais.
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I’d love to get your thoughts on our draft itinerary.
First, some key details:
1/ Jeju Island is a must for us. I’ve personally dreamed of going there for years after reading a novel about it. 2/ Our girls are used to road-trip style travel since they were born, so this kind of trip won’t be an issue for them. 3/ We plan to travel by train, except on Jeju where we’ll rent a car (we already have an international driver’s permit).
Itinerary:
Seoul: 1 arrival day at 10 AM + 4 full days Gyeongju: 2 days Busan: 3 days Jeju: 4 days Seoul: 2 days
Thanks for your feedback! Have a great day,
Sabrina
Hi there,
My girlfriend (23) and I (24) are heading to Japan for the first time from October 20th to November 6th. Here’s our itinerary:
6 nights in Tokyo 1 night in Hakone (ryokan already booked) 4 nights in Kyoto (hotel already booked) 2 nights in Osaka 4 nights back in Tokyo I’d like to book hotels for Tokyo (both stays) and Osaka, but I’ve gotten so many different recommendations.
I’ve read that Shinjuku is the place to be for its huge hub, accessibility, and things to do, but I’ve also heard about Shibuya, Asakusa, and Ueno. I’ve looked at hotels, and first off, I’m surprised by the prices compared to what I’ve seen on forums (I guess inflation’s hit here too… and maybe I’m late to the booking game?). I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed with all the options.
For our first stay in Tokyo, I’d prefer a hotel (not a residence or Airbnb) since we’ll be arriving at night, and it’s our first time in Japan. It’d be great to have a place with a reception, staff who speak at least a little English, and can give us some guidance. For the second stay, we could consider other options if it’s better. Budget-wise, we can go up to 150–180 € per night, but if we can save some money to spend elsewhere, that’d be amazing!
I’m open to all recommendations, hotel suggestions, or any other tips for Tokyo (first stay), Osaka, and Tokyo (second stay).
Thanks so much!
6 nights in Tokyo 1 night in Hakone (ryokan already booked) 4 nights in Kyoto (hotel already booked) 2 nights in Osaka 4 nights back in Tokyo I’d like to book hotels for Tokyo (both stays) and Osaka, but I’ve gotten so many different recommendations.
I’ve read that Shinjuku is the place to be for its huge hub, accessibility, and things to do, but I’ve also heard about Shibuya, Asakusa, and Ueno. I’ve looked at hotels, and first off, I’m surprised by the prices compared to what I’ve seen on forums (I guess inflation’s hit here too… and maybe I’m late to the booking game?). I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed with all the options.
For our first stay in Tokyo, I’d prefer a hotel (not a residence or Airbnb) since we’ll be arriving at night, and it’s our first time in Japan. It’d be great to have a place with a reception, staff who speak at least a little English, and can give us some guidance. For the second stay, we could consider other options if it’s better. Budget-wise, we can go up to 150–180 € per night, but if we can save some money to spend elsewhere, that’d be amazing!
I’m open to all recommendations, hotel suggestions, or any other tips for Tokyo (first stay), Osaka, and Tokyo (second stay).
Thanks so much!
Hi there.
I’m traveling solo to China in October '26, heading to these spots:
Guilin - Yangshuo - Chengdu – Leshan – Chongqing – Zhangjiajie - Furong – Shanghai
Any guides you’d recommend?
Tons of "agencies" (gowithguide, Hellechinaguide, etc.) offer guides. Can I reach out to them? I also speak English.
Any other tips for me?
Thanks! !
Guilin - Yangshuo - Chengdu – Leshan – Chongqing – Zhangjiajie - Furong – Shanghai
Any guides you’d recommend?
Tons of "agencies" (gowithguide, Hellechinaguide, etc.) offer guides. Can I reach out to them? I also speak English.
Any other tips for me?
Thanks! !
Hi there,
I’m getting ready for a classic tourist trip to China in May 2026.
The "Terres Lointaines" itinerary looks good to me, and the price is interesting.
Has anyone traveled with them before? Any feedback?
Is there a better option?
Thanks so much for sharing your experiences on this!
Michel
hi, does anyone have suggestions or contacts for a private local driver without going through a big travel agency for a multi-day trip in Yunnan?
thanks for any info
thanks for any info
Hi there,
I just booked my hotel in Seoul—it’ll be near Unhyeongung, on Samil-Daero 30-Gil—and I’m wondering if there’s public transport from the airport to this address (bus or subway)? If not, what’s the taxi fare? I read it’s around 50 or 60 €.
I just booked my hotel in Seoul—it’ll be near Unhyeongung, on Samil-Daero 30-Gil—and I’m wondering if there’s public transport from the airport to this address (bus or subway)? If not, what’s the taxi fare? I read it’s around 50 or 60 €.
I’m traveling to Japan with a young adult with autism (ASD) from July 28 to August 8, following a pretty classic route: Osaka, Hiroshima, Kyoto, and Tokyo. I’m looking for a schedule of the most spectacular fireworks displays during that time. So far, the dates for the major *hanabi* events aren’t available online yet. If anyone has them, I’d really appreciate it if you could share!
Hi there,
We’ll be doing a self-drive trip using public transport in May 2026.
On Day 6, we’ll arrive in Hakone by train from Tokyo in late morning. We’ll spend the night in Hakone before heading to Kyoto.
The main goal of this stop is clearly the view (no hiking) of Mount Fuji, not so much exploring Hakone, where the sights seem limited. I’ve read on the forum that the view is great from Gotemba, but it also takes a good hour by bus to get there. And, apart from that view, there’s nothing else to see in Gotemba!
So, I’m not sure what to choose. Any thoughts? Or alternatives to suggest? Maybe some spots in Hakone or Gotemba for a great view?
Thanks in advance.
We’ll be doing a self-drive trip using public transport in May 2026.
On Day 6, we’ll arrive in Hakone by train from Tokyo in late morning. We’ll spend the night in Hakone before heading to Kyoto.
The main goal of this stop is clearly the view (no hiking) of Mount Fuji, not so much exploring Hakone, where the sights seem limited. I’ve read on the forum that the view is great from Gotemba, but it also takes a good hour by bus to get there. And, apart from that view, there’s nothing else to see in Gotemba!
So, I’m not sure what to choose. Any thoughts? Or alternatives to suggest? Maybe some spots in Hakone or Gotemba for a great view?
Thanks in advance.
Hi everyone, I’m Julien!
This summer, from late June to late July, I’m planning a one-month solo trip to Japan—my first time!
I’d love to hear your thoughts and advice on the itinerary I’ve put together to explore this amazing country.
Here are the routes I’m considering:
**Option 1: More mountain and nature-focused**
Tokyo: 8 nights, with day trips to Nikko and maybe the Izu Peninsula Kawaguchiko (Lake Kawaguchi/Mt. Fuji): 1 night. The place looks stunning, but I’m worried Mt. Fuji might not be visible due to the weather Kyoto: 6–7 nights (including a trip to Nara) Osaka: 1–2 nights, where I’d like to drop off my things to make the Kumano Kodo easier Kumano Kodo: 3 nights—an experience I haven’t seen much elsewhere, but I thought it sounded really interesting Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Takayama: 3 days Kanazawa: 3 days (From what I understand, the Osaka–Takayama–Kanazawa–Tokyo route is convenient for transport) Tokyo: 1 night (return)
**Option 2: More varied but a bit vague in parts**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Kobe + Himeji: just passing through—I’m not sure if it’s worth a night Naoshima: 1 night—still pretty unclear for me Takamatsu: 2 nights. An interesting city, but I’m not sure how long to stay Shimanami Kaido: biking from Imabari to Onomichi, then heading to Hiroshima Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Kyushu road trip (Aso + onsens + Fukuoka): 5 nights (also pretty vague—I could fly from Fukuoka back to Tokyo) Tokyo: 1 night
**Option 3: More balanced/simplified**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kawaguchiko: 1 night Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Koya-san: 1 night Kumano Kodo: 3 nights Takayama: 3 nights Kanazawa: 3 nights Tokyo: 1 night
A few key points: I haven’t made any reservations yet, except for the flight tickets. I know my plans are too packed and will need to be adjusted. I’m specifically looking for advice on which stops to cut or shorten.
Here are the routes I’m considering:
**Option 1: More mountain and nature-focused**
Tokyo: 8 nights, with day trips to Nikko and maybe the Izu Peninsula Kawaguchiko (Lake Kawaguchi/Mt. Fuji): 1 night. The place looks stunning, but I’m worried Mt. Fuji might not be visible due to the weather Kyoto: 6–7 nights (including a trip to Nara) Osaka: 1–2 nights, where I’d like to drop off my things to make the Kumano Kodo easier Kumano Kodo: 3 nights—an experience I haven’t seen much elsewhere, but I thought it sounded really interesting Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Takayama: 3 days Kanazawa: 3 days (From what I understand, the Osaka–Takayama–Kanazawa–Tokyo route is convenient for transport) Tokyo: 1 night (return)
**Option 2: More varied but a bit vague in parts**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Kobe + Himeji: just passing through—I’m not sure if it’s worth a night Naoshima: 1 night—still pretty unclear for me Takamatsu: 2 nights. An interesting city, but I’m not sure how long to stay Shimanami Kaido: biking from Imabari to Onomichi, then heading to Hiroshima Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Kyushu road trip (Aso + onsens + Fukuoka): 5 nights (also pretty vague—I could fly from Fukuoka back to Tokyo) Tokyo: 1 night
**Option 3: More balanced/simplified**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kawaguchiko: 1 night Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Koya-san: 1 night Kumano Kodo: 3 nights Takayama: 3 nights Kanazawa: 3 nights Tokyo: 1 night
A few key points: I haven’t made any reservations yet, except for the flight tickets. I know my plans are too packed and will need to be adjusted. I’m specifically looking for advice on which stops to cut or shorten.
Hello everyone,
Like Cedric13600, I’ve booked a flight ticket for 30 days / 29 nights in September 2026, from Beijing to Shanghai. We’re a couple in our sixties who love independent road trips.
I’d like to draw inspiration from the following private itinerary suggested by a travel agency:
Day 1: Arrival in Beijing Day 2 to 4: Beijing Day 5: Datong Day 6 & 7: Pingyao Day 8 to 10: Xi'an Day 11: Luoyang Day 12: Dengfeng flight Day 13 & 14: Chongqing flight Day 15 & 16: Lijiang Day 17: Dali Day 18: Kunming Day 19: Jianshui Day 20 & 21: Yuanyang Day 22: Travel via Guilin Day 23 & 24: Yangshuo Day 25: Guilin Day 26 & 27: Zhangjiajie flight Day 28 & 29: Shanghai Day 30: Departure from Shanghai
But to do this itinerary independently: 1. This schedule seems very ambitious to me—what do you think? 2. If it’s too packed, what would you remove as a priority? Thanks so much in advance for your help.
Day 1: Arrival in Beijing Day 2 to 4: Beijing Day 5: Datong Day 6 & 7: Pingyao Day 8 to 10: Xi'an Day 11: Luoyang Day 12: Dengfeng flight Day 13 & 14: Chongqing flight Day 15 & 16: Lijiang Day 17: Dali Day 18: Kunming Day 19: Jianshui Day 20 & 21: Yuanyang Day 22: Travel via Guilin Day 23 & 24: Yangshuo Day 25: Guilin Day 26 & 27: Zhangjiajie flight Day 28 & 29: Shanghai Day 30: Departure from Shanghai
But to do this itinerary independently: 1. This schedule seems very ambitious to me—what do you think? 2. If it’s too packed, what would you remove as a priority? Thanks so much in advance for your help.
Hello everyone,
I’m planning a 5-week trip between Yunnan and Sichuan from mid-October to the end of November 2026: Arriving in Kunming, I’ll do a loop in the far south of Yunnan via Thonghai, Jhiansu, Zhemi, Yuanyang, Nafa, Jinping, Mengzi, and Shilin (visiting markets, villages, and hiking), then head to northern Yunnan/southern Sichuan on the same theme (passing through Kunming again) via Dongchuan, Huize, Qiaojia, Puge, Xichang, Lanba, Butuo, Huolie, Dimo, Riha, Niuniuba, Meigu, Mabian, and Leshan, before arriving in Chengdu (where I’ll take my return flight to Paris). This would be a trip with a strong ethnic/rural focus. Since I’ve never traveled in China, I’d love to hear your thoughts on doing this solo. Are there public transport options in the region? What tips do you have for traveling through this area as smoothly and enjoyably as possible? I’ve done quite a bit of backpacking in the mountains of northern Vietnam and really enjoyed using local motorbike drivers. Is something like that available in this region (through local tourist agencies or hotels)?
What should I be cautious about? Are local tourist agencies (or hotels) offering tours and guides reliable? If you know of any specialized sites sharing tips or experiences, or names of local agencies, hotels, etc., please don’t hesitate to share them! :)
In short, all your advice (on any topic that comes to mind!) is very welcome. Thanks so much!
I’m planning a 5-week trip between Yunnan and Sichuan from mid-October to the end of November 2026: Arriving in Kunming, I’ll do a loop in the far south of Yunnan via Thonghai, Jhiansu, Zhemi, Yuanyang, Nafa, Jinping, Mengzi, and Shilin (visiting markets, villages, and hiking), then head to northern Yunnan/southern Sichuan on the same theme (passing through Kunming again) via Dongchuan, Huize, Qiaojia, Puge, Xichang, Lanba, Butuo, Huolie, Dimo, Riha, Niuniuba, Meigu, Mabian, and Leshan, before arriving in Chengdu (where I’ll take my return flight to Paris). This would be a trip with a strong ethnic/rural focus. Since I’ve never traveled in China, I’d love to hear your thoughts on doing this solo. Are there public transport options in the region? What tips do you have for traveling through this area as smoothly and enjoyably as possible? I’ve done quite a bit of backpacking in the mountains of northern Vietnam and really enjoyed using local motorbike drivers. Is something like that available in this region (through local tourist agencies or hotels)?
What should I be cautious about? Are local tourist agencies (or hotels) offering tours and guides reliable? If you know of any specialized sites sharing tips or experiences, or names of local agencies, hotels, etc., please don’t hesitate to share them! :)
In short, all your advice (on any topic that comes to mind!) is very welcome. Thanks so much!
Hi,
While researching South Korea, I came across the term "templestay," which refers to a Korean program that lets you stay in a traditional temple to discover Buddhism and Korean culture by living like the temple residents and doing activities like making lanterns. A templestay isn’t just for foreign tourists—on the booking site, I saw that some temples are more geared toward foreigners, with English-speaking monks.
I was wondering if it’s still worth it, especially in temples where the monks don’t speak English?
While researching South Korea, I came across the term "templestay," which refers to a Korean program that lets you stay in a traditional temple to discover Buddhism and Korean culture by living like the temple residents and doing activities like making lanterns. A templestay isn’t just for foreign tourists—on the booking site, I saw that some temples are more geared toward foreigners, with English-speaking monks.
I was wondering if it’s still worth it, especially in temples where the monks don’t speak English?
I'm 69 years old and heading to China, where most tourist sites are free or discounted for me. However, trip.com either refuses to let me book because the sites are free or doesn’t apply the discount. Does WeChat apply this discount if I book through them? How can I just reserve without paying and pay on-site? Is that possible?
How do I upload my passport to WeChat?
Thanks for your tips. Elisabeth
How do I upload my passport to WeChat?
Thanks for your tips. Elisabeth
Hi there,
I’d love to get some feedback on our 30-day / 29-night itinerary in China. We’ll be there in September as a family with two kids (6 and 10 years old). Do you think I should cut a few nights between Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) and Yangshuo? I’ve planned 15 nights total there. We’ll be on a round-the-world trip starting May 2026 and will need to do schoolwork with the kids. Hoping to fit it in during train rides!! Ever since I started planning this China itinerary, I’ve been discovering completely mind-blowing places I’d never heard of before—30 days feels way too short for China!!!
Here’s our itinerary:
Beijing - 4 nights Forbidden City Great Wall of China Temple of Heaven
Xi’an - 3 nights Terracotta Army Muslim Quarter & Great Mosque
Chengdu - 3 nights Zoo - Research Base of Giant Panda Breeding Wenshu Yuan Temple
Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) - 3 nights "Avatar Mountains"
Zhangjiajie - 2 nights Tianmen Mountain
Furong Town - 2 nights
Fenghuang - 2 nights
Guilin - 2 nights Chuanshan Park Guilin Yaoshan Scenic Attraction Reed Flute Cave
Yangshuo - 4 nights Biking along the Yulong River Moon Hill Ruyi Peak Xianggong Hill
Shanghai - 4 nights Shanghai Disneyland Yu Garden / Yuyuan Garden Yuyuan Bazaar
Thanks! Cédric
I’d love to get some feedback on our 30-day / 29-night itinerary in China. We’ll be there in September as a family with two kids (6 and 10 years old). Do you think I should cut a few nights between Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) and Yangshuo? I’ve planned 15 nights total there. We’ll be on a round-the-world trip starting May 2026 and will need to do schoolwork with the kids. Hoping to fit it in during train rides!! Ever since I started planning this China itinerary, I’ve been discovering completely mind-blowing places I’d never heard of before—30 days feels way too short for China!!!
Here’s our itinerary:
Beijing - 4 nights Forbidden City Great Wall of China Temple of Heaven
Xi’an - 3 nights Terracotta Army Muslim Quarter & Great Mosque
Chengdu - 3 nights Zoo - Research Base of Giant Panda Breeding Wenshu Yuan Temple
Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) - 3 nights "Avatar Mountains"
Zhangjiajie - 2 nights Tianmen Mountain
Furong Town - 2 nights
Fenghuang - 2 nights
Guilin - 2 nights Chuanshan Park Guilin Yaoshan Scenic Attraction Reed Flute Cave
Yangshuo - 4 nights Biking along the Yulong River Moon Hill Ruyi Peak Xianggong Hill
Shanghai - 4 nights Shanghai Disneyland Yu Garden / Yuyuan Garden Yuyuan Bazaar
Thanks! Cédric
Hi there,
We just got back from a 2-week trip to China as a couple, and before we left, the budget was the hardest thing to picture concretely. We found plenty of info on visas, apps, transport, and itineraries, but way fewer detailed breakdowns of what you *actually* spend on the ground.
So, we took the time to share our real budget for 14 days. In our case, we spent around 1,800 € per person, with a big chunk of that going toward round-trip flights at about 600 € per person. We were also pretty surprised by how affordable China can be once you’re there—transport is often cheap, and a lot of everyday expenses stay reasonable.
The trickiest part, in the end, was figuring out how to pay while you’re there, since it’s not always obvious if you’re not prepared. But once everything’s set up and you get the hang of it, it’s really smooth.
If this can help other travelers get a better idea before they go, we’ve broken it all down here:
https://aventures-sans-mesaventure.com/budget-2-semaines-de-voyage-en-chine/
Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! Hélia
Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! Hélia
Hi everyone,
I’ve been planning several itineraries for a trip to Japan with my wife but would love your insights before we start booking!
In short, we want to go during Golden Week, see late-blooming cherry trees, and have the freedom to get around with a rental car.
Here’s the plan:
18-day itinerary in Japan (April 25 → May 12)
Goal: freedom, late cherry blossoms, culture & nature
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Days 1–3: Tokyo (April 25–27) Arrival and adjustment (no car needed yet). Neighborhoods to visit: Shinjuku, Asakusa, Meiji Jingu, Shibuya, Odaiba. Suggested activities: Ghibli Museum, Sumida River cruise, izakaya meals. Late cherry blossoms (yaezakura) possible at Shinjuku Gyoen. Pick up the rental car on the morning of April 27.
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Days 4–5: Mount Fuji & Hakone (April 27–28) Route: Tokyo → Kawaguchiko/Hakone (~2 h).
Activities: Lake Kawaguchi, Chureito Pagoda (Fuji views + late cherry blossoms) Onsen baths, Hakone Open-Air Museum. Stay: ryokan with onsen and views of Mount Fuji.
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Days 6–7: Takayama & Shirakawa-go (April 29–30) Route: Hakone → Takayama (~4 h).
Activities: Preserved old town, sake breweries, UNESCO village of Shirakawa-go. Stay: traditional minshuku (thatched-roof house). Cherry blossoms are finishing at this altitude — beautiful mountain/nature contrasts. ---
Days 8–10: Kyoto & Nara (May 1–3) Route: Takayama → Kyoto (~4 h 30).
Activities in Kyoto: Fushimi Inari (red torii gates), Golden Pavilion, Arashiyama, Gion (geisha district).
Day trip to Nara: Free-roaming deer in Nara Park, Todai-ji Temple, Kasuga Taisha Shrine. Stay: Kyoto (3 nights).
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Day 11: Osaka or Himeji (May 4) Route: Kyoto → Osaka (~1 h) or Himeji (~1 h 30).
Option 1: Osaka → modern vibe, street food, castle. Option 2: Himeji → stunning UNESCO-listed castle. Stay: Osaka.
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Days 12–13: Kanazawa (May 5–6) Route: Osaka → Kanazawa (~4 h 30).
Activities: Kenroku-en Garden (gorgeous in spring), Omicho Market, samurai district. Stay: Kanazawa.
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Days 14–15: Northern Japan – Aomori / Hirosaki (May 7–8) Route: Kanazawa → Aomori (~7 h, possible to break via Sendai).
Activities: Hirosaki Castle Park (peak bloom early May). Northern onsen (e.g., Sukayu). Stay: Hirosaki or Aomori.
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Days 16–17: Nikko (May 9–10) Route: Aomori → Nikko (~6 h).
Activities: Toshogu Shrine, Kegon Falls, Lake Chuzenji. Stay: Nikko.
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Day 18: Return to Tokyo & Relax in Kamakura (May 11–12) Route: Nikko → Kamakura (~3 h) → Tokyo (~1 h).
Activities: Great Buddha, Zen temples, seaside at Enoshima. Final night: Tokyo before the return flight.
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
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Days 1–3: Tokyo (April 25–27) Arrival and adjustment (no car needed yet). Neighborhoods to visit: Shinjuku, Asakusa, Meiji Jingu, Shibuya, Odaiba. Suggested activities: Ghibli Museum, Sumida River cruise, izakaya meals. Late cherry blossoms (yaezakura) possible at Shinjuku Gyoen. Pick up the rental car on the morning of April 27.
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Days 4–5: Mount Fuji & Hakone (April 27–28) Route: Tokyo → Kawaguchiko/Hakone (~2 h).
Activities: Lake Kawaguchi, Chureito Pagoda (Fuji views + late cherry blossoms) Onsen baths, Hakone Open-Air Museum. Stay: ryokan with onsen and views of Mount Fuji.
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Days 6–7: Takayama & Shirakawa-go (April 29–30) Route: Hakone → Takayama (~4 h).
Activities: Preserved old town, sake breweries, UNESCO village of Shirakawa-go. Stay: traditional minshuku (thatched-roof house). Cherry blossoms are finishing at this altitude — beautiful mountain/nature contrasts. ---
Days 8–10: Kyoto & Nara (May 1–3) Route: Takayama → Kyoto (~4 h 30).
Activities in Kyoto: Fushimi Inari (red torii gates), Golden Pavilion, Arashiyama, Gion (geisha district).
Day trip to Nara: Free-roaming deer in Nara Park, Todai-ji Temple, Kasuga Taisha Shrine. Stay: Kyoto (3 nights).
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Day 11: Osaka or Himeji (May 4) Route: Kyoto → Osaka (~1 h) or Himeji (~1 h 30).
Option 1: Osaka → modern vibe, street food, castle. Option 2: Himeji → stunning UNESCO-listed castle. Stay: Osaka.
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Days 12–13: Kanazawa (May 5–6) Route: Osaka → Kanazawa (~4 h 30).
Activities: Kenroku-en Garden (gorgeous in spring), Omicho Market, samurai district. Stay: Kanazawa.
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Days 14–15: Northern Japan – Aomori / Hirosaki (May 7–8) Route: Kanazawa → Aomori (~7 h, possible to break via Sendai).
Activities: Hirosaki Castle Park (peak bloom early May). Northern onsen (e.g., Sukayu). Stay: Hirosaki or Aomori.
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Days 16–17: Nikko (May 9–10) Route: Aomori → Nikko (~6 h).
Activities: Toshogu Shrine, Kegon Falls, Lake Chuzenji. Stay: Nikko.
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Day 18: Return to Tokyo & Relax in Kamakura (May 11–12) Route: Nikko → Kamakura (~3 h) → Tokyo (~1 h).
Activities: Great Buddha, Zen temples, seaside at Enoshima. Final night: Tokyo before the return flight.
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
hi! Is it easy to use for paying for all the small purchases at the markets? INSTALLATION AND USE WITHOUT ISSUES—do you also need a VPN for China?
Secondly, for using phone and internet, I have Orange—is it reliable, or should I go with Airalo instead?




