Voyage à vélo en famille: transport des vélos et remorque enfant dans les trains?
by Manunord
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour, je suis nouveau sur le forum et donc je me présente: Nous sommes une famille de 3: papa, maman et un petit garçon qui va avoir 4 ans. Nous habitons dans le nord à Roubaix. Depuis l'été dernier, nous nous déplaçons au maximum en vélo. Cela nous plait de plus en plus. Du coup nous avons investi dans une remorque enfant et 2 bons vélos d'occasion.
Nous prévoyons bien sur de passer nos vacances en vélo mais tant qu'à jouer le jeu nous souhaitons le faire à fond et donc ne pas prendre notre voiture. Pour rejoindre notre lieu de vacances, la solution du train est donc logique.
Je sais que dans les corails et trains couchettes, il est possible d'embarquer des vélos (la remorque se pliant, pas de soucis de ce côté). Notre problème est plutôt entre Lille et Paris car il n'y a que des TGV.
Nous avons essayé de nous renseigner auprès de la sncf mais l'accueil nous a un peu refroidi...
je lance donc un appel à vos expériences de voyages en train et surtout en tgv avec vos montures.
Bonjour Manunord !
et soit le bienvenu sur le forum ! Tu verras, tu viens d'arriver, mais tu n'es pas prêt de repartir (du forum bien sûr ! 😉) Pour partir réellement en vélo avec la SNCF en TGV, eh bien ... il faut payer 10 euros par vélo et par charette. Voilà ce qui est ressorti de nos investigations puisque nous avons les mêmes méthodes que les vôtres. Du coup, nous prenons les TER et trains corail de nuit plutôt très très pratiques pour traverser la France. Je reconnais qu'il nous est arrivé de mettre deux vélos et une charette dans un TGV à la sauvage (quand j'y repense ... On était jeunes et fous, il y a un an !🏴☠️) Nous avions quand même "sauvagement" planifié l'opération en prenant des places dans un train que nous savions peu rempli (en journée) (évitant le vendredi après-midi, les matins et soirées, le samedi matin et midi, et le dimanche midi et soir). Après, nous avions réduit au maximum l'encombrement du bardas (ben, oui, il y avait aussi les sacs et le bout'chou😎 !), en baissant les selles, tournant les guidons, démontant les roues, pliant la charette, et mis le tout dans deux grands sacs de gravas pour chantiers ( il y en a chez Loxam par exemple). Hum, je ne sais pas si c'est un exemple à suivre, mais voilà ce qui se fait (ou pas) et a été fait.
Bon vent à tous les trois !
AQW
et soit le bienvenu sur le forum ! Tu verras, tu viens d'arriver, mais tu n'es pas prêt de repartir (du forum bien sûr ! 😉) Pour partir réellement en vélo avec la SNCF en TGV, eh bien ... il faut payer 10 euros par vélo et par charette. Voilà ce qui est ressorti de nos investigations puisque nous avons les mêmes méthodes que les vôtres. Du coup, nous prenons les TER et trains corail de nuit plutôt très très pratiques pour traverser la France. Je reconnais qu'il nous est arrivé de mettre deux vélos et une charette dans un TGV à la sauvage (quand j'y repense ... On était jeunes et fous, il y a un an !🏴☠️) Nous avions quand même "sauvagement" planifié l'opération en prenant des places dans un train que nous savions peu rempli (en journée) (évitant le vendredi après-midi, les matins et soirées, le samedi matin et midi, et le dimanche midi et soir). Après, nous avions réduit au maximum l'encombrement du bardas (ben, oui, il y avait aussi les sacs et le bout'chou😎 !), en baissant les selles, tournant les guidons, démontant les roues, pliant la charette, et mis le tout dans deux grands sacs de gravas pour chantiers ( il y en a chez Loxam par exemple). Hum, je ne sais pas si c'est un exemple à suivre, mais voilà ce qui se fait (ou pas) et a été fait.
Bon vent à tous les trois !
AQW
Salut AQW et merci pour ta réponse.
En fait on a depuis le début pensé au train de nuit: on gagne 1 journée de vacance et le gamin va adorer. On a regardé pour aller à Perpignan mais le départ se fait de Paris Austerlitz, donc pour nous il faut aller à la gare du nord en TGV puis à Austerlitz en vélo. ça commence donc à être compliqué...
Mais je viens de voir 2 autres solutions:
1. lille-paris nord en TER (il faut aller sur le site des TER région pour le savoir car sur le voyage-sncf il n'y a que des horaires de TGV...) et là apparament pas besoin de plier les vélos. Ensuite la traverser de Paris (c'est déjà l'aventure!).
2. Partir de Lille en corail de nuit: il n'y en a qu'un qui va vers Avignon. Je pense que l'on va opter pour cette solution, en profiter pour voir ce coin pendant quelques jours et ensuite prendre un corail jusque Perpignan (il doit bien y en avoir avec possibilité de vélos)
Dans tous les cas, on va déjà commencer par tester en régional pour voir comment ça se passe.
Sinon on est comme vous, on envisage de voyager léger (mais ça c'et pas un problème) et d'éviter les heures de pointes (c'est moins cher et plus cool).
Au fait, je vois que tu es en haute-savoie, ça doit être sympa les montée avec la charette....
C'est gentil Manunord de compatir sur nos mollets !
En réalité, je parle, je parle, mais c'est le papa qui travaille le plus dur dans les montées !😛
Il n'empêche que c'est faisable, même avec une charette (enfin, je précise que notre Crevette atteint tout juste les 10 kg aujourd'hui).
Si l'idée vous en dit un jour ...
Bonne continuation.
AQW
Bonne continuation.
AQW
Le tout c'est d'y aller à son rythme et sur le bon développement. Je suis déjà passé en Haute Savoie, c'est très joli. Vous devez avoir beaucoup de plaisir à vous y balader. Et pour les vacances vous prenez le train pour quelle destinations?
Bonjour !
Bon, on s'éloigne du sujet d'origine, là.😊
Alors pour recentrer, disons que nos vélos sont allés au phare ouest et à la capitale.
En train Corail Lunéoz, et ... en TGV.
A ce sujet, pour info, nous ne nous référons quasiment plus qu'au site de la Deutsche Bahn pour connaître les possibilités de trajets ferrés😛. Puis retour sur le site de la Seuneuceufeu pour les tarifs éventuellement🤪. La DBahn est impressionnante d'efficacité, et en plus les pages existent en français !😉
Bonne journée.
AQW
Bonne journée.
AQW
Merci pour l'info, quelle est leur adresse web?
Hum, il me semble que la pub est proscrite sur le forum.
Essaie de taper deutsche bahn sur google.
(je fais de la promo indirecte ...)
Tu devrais voir sur la page ne haut, un drapeau allemand, tu peux le changer pour un autre langue au choix.
Sinon, en message privé je te donnerai l'adresse du site mais ... j'avoue ne pas être au point des manip' à faire à partir du forum.
Je regarde ça et te dis ce qu'il en est.
Bons voyages à tous les trois.
AQW
Essaie de taper deutsche bahn sur google.
(je fais de la promo indirecte ...)
Tu devrais voir sur la page ne haut, un drapeau allemand, tu peux le changer pour un autre langue au choix.
Sinon, en message privé je te donnerai l'adresse du site mais ... j'avoue ne pas être au point des manip' à faire à partir du forum.
Je regarde ça et te dis ce qu'il en est.
Bons voyages à tous les trois.
AQW
voici le lien vers le site sncf relatif au transport des vélos dans leurs trains. bon courage
http://www.velo.sncf.com/
http://www.velo.sncf.com/
certain tgv partant de lille et qui contourne paris et ne s'arrête qu'au nord de paris (gare Aéroport Charles-de-Gaulle 2) et au sud de paris (gare Massy tgv) permettent
d'emmener les vélos non démontés
par exemple : le tgv Lille-Bordeaux
il y 4 places de vélo par rame
de la gare tu peux gagner Paris par RER B
ps : il y a peut-être un lille-toulouse ? tu n'es plus très loin de perpignan.
des renseignements :
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gare_Aéroport_Charles-de-Gaulle_2_TGV
en faisant une recherche d'horaire sur www.voyage-sncf.com
j'ai trouvé un tgv directe Lille-toulouse qui accepte les vélos LILLE FLANDRES 12h38 TGV 5218 Période de pointe TOULOUSE MATABIAU 20h15 Service Handicapé Voiture bar Transport de vélo payant
j'ai aussi trouvé pas mal de tgv lille-paris dans la journée qui acceptent les vélos
par exemple : le tgv Lille-Bordeaux
il y 4 places de vélo par rame
de la gare tu peux gagner Paris par RER B
ps : il y a peut-être un lille-toulouse ? tu n'es plus très loin de perpignan.
des renseignements :
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gare_Aéroport_Charles-de-Gaulle_2_TGV
en faisant une recherche d'horaire sur www.voyage-sncf.com
j'ai trouvé un tgv directe Lille-toulouse qui accepte les vélos LILLE FLANDRES 12h38 TGV 5218 Période de pointe TOULOUSE MATABIAU 20h15 Service Handicapé Voiture bar Transport de vélo payant
j'ai aussi trouvé pas mal de tgv lille-paris dans la journée qui acceptent les vélos
Merci pour toutes ces infos complètes et tes recherches vfpromeneur.
J'ai fouillé un peu de mon côté et je suis tombé sur le site de l'ADAV (asso du droit au vélo) qui indique ceci: (je donne le détail car cela intéressera paut être d'autres internautes: Pour les TGV, il y a quatre places par rame (voitures 8 et 18) où le transport des vélos est possible et payant dans: la plupart des TGV Lille-Paris
tous les TGV Arras-Paris, Valenciennes-Paris, Dunkerque-Paris, Boulogne-Paris et Calais-Paris (sauf les Eurostar)
de nombreux TGV Atlantique : Lille-Rennes(-Quimper), Lille-Nantes(-Le Croisic), Lille-Poitiers-Bordeaux-(Toulouse ou Hendaye)
le train de nuit 4208 Corail Lunéa Lille-Nice (mention omise sur les fiches horaires). Les TGV-Est Lille-Strasbourg disposent d’un espace-vélo aménagé dans les voitures 1 et 11.le transport des vélos non démontés dans les TERde la région Nord – Pas-de-Calais est gratuit. Par contre pour les TERGV c'est plus compliqué pour avoir les infos.Comme dans le TER c'est gratuit j'ai consulté le site TER pour la...Picardie. Et là surprise, il y a toujours des TER lille-Amiens-Paris! Mais ceux-ci ne sont pas présents sur le site TER nord pas de calais ni sur le site national de la sncf qui n'annonce que des TGV.
Pour aller à Perpignan, nous avons trouvé une solution en corail lunéa: Lille - Avignon puis TER avignon-Perpignan. On en profitera pour passer quelques jours sur Avignon.
Comme quoi même préparer son voyage en vélo c'est déjà l'aventure!!
Pour aller à Perpignan, nous avons trouvé une solution en corail lunéa: Lille - Avignon puis TER avignon-Perpignan. On en profitera pour passer quelques jours sur Avignon.
Comme quoi même préparer son voyage en vélo c'est déjà l'aventure!!
Je reviens sur mon précédent message suite aux dernières infos.
Le train de nuit au départ de Lille est supprimé. Les autres trains de nuit vont l'être aussi. A terme il ne va rester que les TGV (donc à tarif plus élevé)
Il n'y a aucune solution pour faire Lille-Perpignan avec les vélos montés. La housse est donc obligatoire...Formidable!! Merci la sncf pour l'obligation d'acheter des housses, de risquer d'abimer nos vélos et de ne pas savoir où les ranger dans le TGV (déjà qu'avec 2 valises et 1 poussette il n'y a pas de place).
Et pour l'intermodalité...aux oubliettes!!
Un post qui traite d'un theme similaire, dans lequel je fais part de mon experience :
http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=1386422;#1386422
Mais voyager en train avec enfant+velos+remorque+bagages, c'est assez courageux !
Mais voyager en train avec enfant+velos+remorque+bagages, c'est assez courageux !
La vie est plus belle à Vélo
Bonjour,
Moi aussi je suis de Roubaix et j'ai le même problème... ou presque, sauf que ma remorque est pour le chien, ma fille (11 ans) gérant plus ou moins son vélo elle même. Et comme on fait du camping, on est un peu chargés.
Contrairement à toi, je trouve que le Lille / Paris en TGV, c'est assez correct, voire même plutôt simple et bien desservi!!!! (environ un TGV sur 3 ou 5 accepte les vélos au départ de Lille). Comparé au reste 😏, c'est le paradis. Il faut juste repérer le pictogramme "vélo". Pas de picto = pas de vélo.
Après, dans Paris ... les RER prennent les vélos hors heures de pointes, mais c'est plus simple en surface à condition de circuler le dimanche, il y a moins de voitures. Vu le trafic, je ne me suis pas encore lancée (trop stressant, surtout avec une remorque + ma gamine à vélo).
Au delà de Paris ... ou de Province à province, c'est, disons, compliqué. Dans le meilleur des cas, il faut payer (10 euros à chaque changement de train). Dans le pire ... je ne vais pas polluer ton post en râlant! Je n'ai pas encore essayé le site allemand (je vais tester cette année), mais j'ai testé la SNCF ("à nous de vous faire préférer ....").
Contrairement à toi, je trouve que le Lille / Paris en TGV, c'est assez correct, voire même plutôt simple et bien desservi!!!! (environ un TGV sur 3 ou 5 accepte les vélos au départ de Lille). Comparé au reste 😏, c'est le paradis. Il faut juste repérer le pictogramme "vélo". Pas de picto = pas de vélo.
Après, dans Paris ... les RER prennent les vélos hors heures de pointes, mais c'est plus simple en surface à condition de circuler le dimanche, il y a moins de voitures. Vu le trafic, je ne me suis pas encore lancée (trop stressant, surtout avec une remorque + ma gamine à vélo).
Au delà de Paris ... ou de Province à province, c'est, disons, compliqué. Dans le meilleur des cas, il faut payer (10 euros à chaque changement de train). Dans le pire ... je ne vais pas polluer ton post en râlant! Je n'ai pas encore essayé le site allemand (je vais tester cette année), mais j'ai testé la SNCF ("à nous de vous faire préférer ....").
Bonjour manunord .
Prend un TER de lille a paris (gratuit pour les velos !!)puis a Paris tu rejoins Austerlitz grace au piste cyclabe"gare du nord puis gare de l'est après tu suis le canal st martin jusqu'a la seine et tu arrive a austerlitz ". J'ai fais le trajet en 15 min en roulant tranquille .
Après prend un Train de nuit austerlitz perpignan, dès que la voie s'affiche va voir les controleurs et arrange toi avec eux pour mettre tes velos en derniere voiture .
Je reviens a peine d'un austerlitz orleans /amboise austerlitz, pas de compartiment velo, mais des controleurs vraiment cool car habitué au transport des vélos .
Et tous ca sans montré ma carte de cheminot 😛
Prend un TER de lille a paris (gratuit pour les velos !!)puis a Paris tu rejoins Austerlitz grace au piste cyclabe"gare du nord puis gare de l'est après tu suis le canal st martin jusqu'a la seine et tu arrive a austerlitz ". J'ai fais le trajet en 15 min en roulant tranquille .
Après prend un Train de nuit austerlitz perpignan, dès que la voie s'affiche va voir les controleurs et arrange toi avec eux pour mettre tes velos en derniere voiture .
Je reviens a peine d'un austerlitz orleans /amboise austerlitz, pas de compartiment velo, mais des controleurs vraiment cool car habitué au transport des vélos .
Et tous ca sans montré ma carte de cheminot 😛
Vivre ces rêves et non réver sa vie !!!!!!!!!
Merci pour l'info du trajet entre gare du nord et austerlitz.
Entre temps nous avons acheté nos billets TGV Lille-Montpellier-Perpignan (on part en juillet et on voulait les meilleurs tarifs donc...)
Du coup on embarque les vélos sous housse de transport, la remorque se pliant facilement ça ira pour elle. Ma seule crainte c'est que notre TGV est à 2 étages et que la place y est un peu juste. On verra bien, je donnerais le retour de notre expérience. Je pense que le choix des housses est important. Si vous avez des retour d'expériences, ils sont les bienvenus!
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I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
Hi there!
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
Hi there, we’re a group of 4 cyclists looking to get from Treviso in Italy to Munich with our 4 non-folding bikes. It seems complicated! Are there any solutions? Thanks so much.
hello fellow cycling enthusiasts
here’s a travel journal of the cycling tour through the Rhône-Alpes Auvergne region by Claudio
zouli
it was the plan
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/auvergne-Ralpes/
the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

Hi, I'm looking for a Pino tandem bike for sale in Quebec and I can't find any. Does anyone have any info, please? Thanks a bunch!
Hi there, we’re planning a Munich to Venice bike trip at the end of June 2026. Getting back from Venice to Toulouse by train with 4 bikes isn’t straightforward. What return options have others who’ve done this trip chosen? Any tips or great deals would be much appreciated. Thanks a bunch! !
Hi everyone,
Happy owner of a Pegasus Estremo bike with a Rohloff hub, which is giving me trouble with the SF11-NCX-FT-E-LITE 700C TS 300/0 fork (serial number TD01329060). It’s starting to show its age, and I’d like to repair it to extend the life of my beloved bike.
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Thanks for your help! Have a great day, Alexandre
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Thanks for your help! Have a great day, Alexandre
Hi, I'd like to know if anyone has done this route recently or has reliable info.
Does the track exist, and most importantly, is there sand (for biking)?
Any info is welcome.
Cheers,
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
Hi there,
New to bike touring,
I’d love to start with a section of the Via Rhona to explore and share (route to be decided).
Looking forward to exchanging tips!
hey everyone,
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
Thanks in advance, Jérôme
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
Thanks in advance, Jérôme
A big thank you to Lazarou for all the info you share in this forum!
I'm passionate about Morocco, which I cycled through back in 2009.
Last year, my wife and I explored the High Atlas by tandem. Completely smitten, we're heading back in April (Anti Atlas) and May (High and Middle Atlas), still on our tandem.
Do you have any info on the track between Amezri and Ali Ait Nito? Are the river crossings in the Tessaout still there? It's not easy to navigate with a loaded tandem... especially if the river level is high due to this year's heavy snowmelt!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
A shout-out to a cycling colleague from Savoie
Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php

The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php


The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

First of all... happy New Year! Wishing you great roads in 2017!
I’ve been traveling for a few years now with a high-quality mountain bike, but it’s equipped with hydraulic disc brakes. I live (pedal) with the constant worry of a breakdown (leak, air bubble, heat causing the fluid to...). My bike mechanic tells me it’s impossible to switch them out for V-brakes.
What do you all think? Am I taking a big risk continuing (alone) with these brakes? Thanks in advance for your great tips!
Hi everyone,
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
I’m planning the route to cycle from Lille to Nordkapp with my partner.
Duration: 3 months, from May 1st to July 31st, 2026.
In the attached details below, I need to add some "non-riding" days (rest days, basically).
So I’m looking to "shorten" the trip by taking ferries or trains for some stretches. Which areas could I skip?
Thanks in advance for your great tips.
Have a good evening.
https://www.komoot.com/fr-fr/collection/4023980/-lille-cap-nord-1er-mai-au-31-juillet-2026?ref=collection
Hi there,
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
Hi, has anyone recently bought Primus or Butagaz gas, possibly puncture-style, in Dubrovnik or the surrounding area? Same question for Albania... thanks. aichatou
Hi there,
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Hi there,
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉