Informations récentes sur la grippe AH1N1 en Inde?
by Loic09
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Quelqu'un a t'il des informations particulieres sur la grippe en Inde ou je me rend en Octobre/Novembre.Il semble que l'Inde ne soit pas encore touchee, et prenne des precautions vis a vis des personnes venant des pays infectes, tel la
France....
Merci de vos reponses
L'Inde pas encore touchée par le virus H1N1 ? Nous en "sommes" aujourd'hui à 29 morts (et près de 2000 personnes touchées)... Le bilan s'alourdit presque de jour en jour !
Un article récent du Times of India n'était pas du genre rassurant : selon l'Organisation Mondiale de la Santé, 33% de la population indienne pourrait être touché par le virus dans les deux ans ! Ce qui donne plus de 300 millions de personnes...
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Tu peux jeter un coup d'oeil à ce site : http://www.swinefluindia.com/, une sorte de "site spécial swine flu en Inde", actualisé au jour le jour...
Un article récent du Times of India n'était pas du genre rassurant : selon l'Organisation Mondiale de la Santé, 33% de la population indienne pourrait être touché par le virus dans les deux ans ! Ce qui donne plus de 300 millions de personnes...
🤪
Tu peux jeter un coup d'oeil à ce site : http://www.swinefluindia.com/, une sorte de "site spécial swine flu en Inde", actualisé au jour le jour...
Une fillette en est morte à Pune dans le Rajasthan ... triste...
Triste aussi de placer Pune dans le Rajasthan 🤪
Triste aussi de placer Pune dans le Rajasthan 🤪
"Nous ne sommes plus une communauté d'être humains qui se parlent mais un conglomérat de grappes de consommateurs en niches, séparés les uns des autres par des obsessions diverses et innombrables. Nous sommes de l'ère de la désintégration." Marc Moulin (1942-2008) in Humoeurs
Je dois aller en Inde en Sept et je suis pas rassuré par le system de santé des indiens. On ma dit que les hôpitaux utilisaient Tamiflu que a la dernière minute. .
Je pars egalemment en Inde du 31 aout au 07 octobre, seul..🙂
La grippe H1N1 n'a pour le moment pas touché le pays autant que le France par exemple (qui filtre grave les informations concernant le nombre d'infectés)
Pour infos, je n'ai pas les memes que plus haut 🤪 meuh bon : environ 1200 cas en Inde dont 20 morts....Principal foyer d'infection Mumbai et Pune..
J'atterris pour ma part j'atteris à Mumbai le 1 sept, j'y reste environ 3 jours et descend directement dans le sud en longeant la cote direction Goa, pour descendre encore ...
Je prendrais une boite de Tamiflu avec moi (au cas ou) et quelques masques, mais honnetement t'a plus de chance de la choper en France qu'en Inde (pour le moment😕, vu les moyens sanitaires en Inde..), Mais prend quelques adresses de médecins européens, tu te fera defoncé au niveau du prix mais ca sera plus rassurant je t'assure🤪
Voila!
Je prendrais une boite de Tamiflu avec moi (au cas ou) et quelques masques, mais honnetement t'a plus de chance de la choper en France qu'en Inde (pour le moment😕, vu les moyens sanitaires en Inde..), Mais prend quelques adresses de médecins européens, tu te fera defoncé au niveau du prix mais ca sera plus rassurant je t'assure🤪
Voila!
Oublié dans son pays, inconnu ailleurs, tel est le destin du voyageur...
J'ai demandé a mon médecin 1 boite de Tamiflu. Il voulait pas me le prescrire. Il ma dit prend des masques et tu dois les changer tout les 3h.
Je vais a Hyderabad via Dubai. Je vais surement prendre des masques et je vais les utiliser a l'aéroport. Je sais pas si on a le droit dans l'avion.
Concernant les médecins européens.Ou est ce que je peux avoir cette liste stp?
Merci WJ
Bonjour,
J'ai demandé a mon médecin 1 boite de Tamiflu. Il voulait pas me le prescrire.
Normal. D'ailleurs l'OMS recommande de ne pas traiter systématiquement avec ce médicament, de le réserver aux cas graves.
Je sais pas si on a le droit dans l'avion.
Si, bien sûr. Attention quand même... Comme les masques ne protègent pas, mais empêchent de contaminer les autres, porter un masque vous identifie comme malade... Faudra assumer ensuite les effets pervers.
Michel
J'ai demandé a mon médecin 1 boite de Tamiflu. Il voulait pas me le prescrire.
Normal. D'ailleurs l'OMS recommande de ne pas traiter systématiquement avec ce médicament, de le réserver aux cas graves.
Je sais pas si on a le droit dans l'avion.
Si, bien sûr. Attention quand même... Comme les masques ne protègent pas, mais empêchent de contaminer les autres, porter un masque vous identifie comme malade... Faudra assumer ensuite les effets pervers.
Michel
J'ai demandé a mon médecin 1 boite de Tamiflu. Il voulait pas me le prescrire.
Change de médecin 🤪
J'ai demandé à mon médecin 1 boite de Tamiflu. Il me l'a prescrite. 😉
Change de médecin 🤪
J'ai demandé à mon médecin 1 boite de Tamiflu. Il me l'a prescrite. 😉
"Nous ne sommes plus une communauté d'être humains qui se parlent mais un conglomérat de grappes de consommateurs en niches, séparés les uns des autres par des obsessions diverses et innombrables. Nous sommes de l'ère de la désintégration." Marc Moulin (1942-2008) in Humoeurs
Il y a deux sortes de masques je crois. 1 pour ceux qui sont malades et qui ne doivent pas contaminer les autres.
Et 1 un autre masque pour ceux qui sont en bon santé et qui empêchent d'attraper qq chose.
Oui je sais il faut pas utiliser Tamiflu comme ça sinon. Surtout si on choppe la Grippe A cette médicament ne va plus fonctionner.
Oui je sais il faut pas utiliser Tamiflu comme ça sinon. Surtout si on choppe la Grippe A cette médicament ne va plus fonctionner.
Bonjour,
Il y a deux sortes de masques je crois. 1 pour ceux qui sont malades et qui ne doivent pas contaminer les autres. Et 1 un autre masque pour ceux qui sont en bon santé et qui empêchent d'attraper qq chose.
Certes, certes, mais quand on se détournera de vous dans l'aéroport ou qu'on refusera d'être votre voisin dans l'avion, vous expliquerez ça...
Oui je sais il faut pas utiliser Tamiflu comme ça sinon. Surtout si on choppe la Grippe A cette médicament ne va plus fonctionner.
S'en procurer d'avance n'a pas grand sens.
Michel
Il y a deux sortes de masques je crois. 1 pour ceux qui sont malades et qui ne doivent pas contaminer les autres. Et 1 un autre masque pour ceux qui sont en bon santé et qui empêchent d'attraper qq chose.
Certes, certes, mais quand on se détournera de vous dans l'aéroport ou qu'on refusera d'être votre voisin dans l'avion, vous expliquerez ça...
Oui je sais il faut pas utiliser Tamiflu comme ça sinon. Surtout si on choppe la Grippe A cette médicament ne va plus fonctionner.
S'en procurer d'avance n'a pas grand sens.
Michel
Et 1 un autre masque pour ceux qui sont en bon santé et qui empêchent d'attraper qq chose.
pour avoir à les utiliser au travail, je peux vous dire que vous ne les supporterez pas plus de 30 minutes 🤪
pour avoir à les utiliser au travail, je peux vous dire que vous ne les supporterez pas plus de 30 minutes 🤪
Je crois que je vais devoir juste prier et ne pas utiliser un masque.
Je pense que on devra distribuer des masques a tout le monde dans l'avion.
Je pense que on devra distribuer des masques a tout le monde dans l'avion.
et pourquoi que dans l'avion? dans la rue aussi 😐 je pense qu'en partant comme ça, tu ferais mieux de rester chez toi 🤪
et pourquoi que dans l'avion? dans la rue aussi 😐 je pense qu'en partant comme ça, tu ferais mieux de rester chez toi 🤪
Je crois que je vais devoir juste prier et ne pas utiliser un masque.
Ne soyez pas obnubilés par cette grippe ; il y a moyen d'attraper en Inde tout un tas de truc largement aussi graves...
Michel
Ne soyez pas obnubilés par cette grippe ; il y a moyen d'attraper en Inde tout un tas de truc largement aussi graves...
Michel
Oui tu as raison. On doit pas devoir paranoïaque sinon on ne vit plus.
Wanna, les généralistes et autre médecins ne sont que pour moi des charlatans (enfin une grosse majorité)😠
Pour ta boite de Tamiflu, ne demande pas au medecin, directement à la pharmacie ( au culot) tu te demmerde de tomber sur une pharmacienne et avec des yeux un peu mouillés et un air peunot tu lui dit que tu pars en Indes et que tu vas surement mourir de la grippe si elle ne te donne pas une boite de tamiflu blablabla😎 , tu lui tartine le dos etc... P😉rix 25e non remboursé ^^
Attention comme on l'a dit au dessus, le Tamiflu n'est pas un médicament spécifique pour la grippe H1N1 mais si tu as une grippe normal ou un début de H1N1 ca peut aider a calmer et / ou ralentir...
Pour les masques, j'en prend par précaution une boite de 50.. Je n'en mettrais surement qu'a Mumbai par précaution et le reste je le donnerais sur place ( concernant l'utilisation, pas de psychose seulement deux par jour suffise) Aprés comme on te la dit au dessus porter un masque, choque psychologiquement la population J'ai fait le test au Carrefour de chez moi un samedi aprés midi !! looool😄 magasin bondé : personne autour de moi sur 3/4 metres et au bout d'un moment les vigiles m'ont demandé de sortir !!!! 🤪 donc en Indes ca sera le meme effet en moins fort surement puique une minorité de personnes portent des masques quotidiennement...
ATTENTION je te déconseille de le porter dans l'avion et l'aéroport : les autorités indiennes sur place vont te faire remplir un questionnaire concernant la grippe H1N1 s'ils te voyent avec un masque ca peut peut etre pas leur plaire......leur faire peur ...et prendre ainsi le risque d'une quarantaine...🏴☠️
Concernant les médecins européens je n'ai pas de listes je cherche moi meme quelques numéros😮....dans les grandes villes essaye par internet As tu des contacts sur place?
Pour les masques, j'en prend par précaution une boite de 50.. Je n'en mettrais surement qu'a Mumbai par précaution et le reste je le donnerais sur place ( concernant l'utilisation, pas de psychose seulement deux par jour suffise) Aprés comme on te la dit au dessus porter un masque, choque psychologiquement la population J'ai fait le test au Carrefour de chez moi un samedi aprés midi !! looool😄 magasin bondé : personne autour de moi sur 3/4 metres et au bout d'un moment les vigiles m'ont demandé de sortir !!!! 🤪 donc en Indes ca sera le meme effet en moins fort surement puique une minorité de personnes portent des masques quotidiennement...
ATTENTION je te déconseille de le porter dans l'avion et l'aéroport : les autorités indiennes sur place vont te faire remplir un questionnaire concernant la grippe H1N1 s'ils te voyent avec un masque ca peut peut etre pas leur plaire......leur faire peur ...et prendre ainsi le risque d'une quarantaine...🏴☠️
Concernant les médecins européens je n'ai pas de listes je cherche moi meme quelques numéros😮....dans les grandes villes essaye par internet As tu des contacts sur place?
Oublié dans son pays, inconnu ailleurs, tel est le destin du voyageur...
Wanna, les généralistes et autre médecins ne sont que pour moi des charlatans (enfin une grosse majorité)😠
Pour ta boite de Tamiflu, ne demande pas au medecin, directement à la pharmacie ( au culot) tu te demmerde de tomber sur une pharmacienne et avec des yeux un peu mouillés et un air peunot tu lui dit que tu pars en Indes et que tu vas surement mourir de la grippe si elle ne te donne pas une boite de tamiflu blablabla😎 , tu lui tartine le dos etc... P😉rix 25e non remboursé ^^
et à part ça, cette pharmacienne qui te vendra le Tamiflu ne sera pas une charlatan 🙁
et à part ça, cette pharmacienne qui te vendra le Tamiflu ne sera pas une charlatan 🙁
Bonsoir,
Sympa votre plan..... Vous dites que les médecins sont des charlatans et vous faites des pieds et des mains pour acheter de la poudre de perlinpinpin.... 🤪
La Tamiflu est conseillé dans le cas de grippe avec complications ou risques ; il ne s'agit pas d'avaler la tablette juste parce que vous pensez vous sentir mal ; s'il s'agit de traiter les symptômes c'est un antipyrétique qu'il vous faut, pas du Tamiflu.
Je n'en mettrais surement qu'a Mumbai par précaution et le reste je le donnerais sur place ( concernant l'utilisation, pas de psychose seulement deux par jour suffise)
..... Pour un effet psychologique, sans doute... 😏
Michel
Sympa votre plan..... Vous dites que les médecins sont des charlatans et vous faites des pieds et des mains pour acheter de la poudre de perlinpinpin.... 🤪
La Tamiflu est conseillé dans le cas de grippe avec complications ou risques ; il ne s'agit pas d'avaler la tablette juste parce que vous pensez vous sentir mal ; s'il s'agit de traiter les symptômes c'est un antipyrétique qu'il vous faut, pas du Tamiflu.
Je n'en mettrais surement qu'a Mumbai par précaution et le reste je le donnerais sur place ( concernant l'utilisation, pas de psychose seulement deux par jour suffise)
..... Pour un effet psychologique, sans doute... 😏
Michel
Je n'ai pas fait des pieds et des mains pour avoir du tamiflu, j'en est pris une boite par précaution je voyage seul pendant 7semaines et j'ai 20ans😐
Je ne compte pas en prendre comme des bonbons, ni crever de cette grippe a la con j'ai d'autre voyages a faire.
Merci de ta réponse Tatra, aussi cynique que inutile..
Pour ceux qui est des masques vu que les foyers infectieux sont a Mumbai et Pune je prefere ne pas prendre de risques, je pense simplement qu'il ne faut pas en mettre dans l'avion et a l'aéroprt pour alerter les autorités inutilement.
Bien cordialement.
Bien cordialement.
Oublié dans son pays, inconnu ailleurs, tel est le destin du voyageur...
Merci de ta réponse Tatra, aussi cynique que inutile..
Telle est aussi la position de l'OMS.... 🤪
Je ne compte pas en prendre comme des bonbons, ni crever de cette grippe a la con j'ai d'autre voyages a faire.
Comment savoir s'il faut prendre le Tamifu ou pas ?.......
Pour ceux qui est des masques vu que les foyers infectieux sont a Mumbai et Pune je prefere ne pas prendre de risques
Dans ce cas il faut des masques de la classe qui convient.
Michel
Telle est aussi la position de l'OMS.... 🤪
Je ne compte pas en prendre comme des bonbons, ni crever de cette grippe a la con j'ai d'autre voyages a faire.
Comment savoir s'il faut prendre le Tamifu ou pas ?.......
Pour ceux qui est des masques vu que les foyers infectieux sont a Mumbai et Pune je prefere ne pas prendre de risques
Dans ce cas il faut des masques de la classe qui convient.
Michel
Telle est aussi la position de l'OMS.... 🤪
Concernant la prise de Tamiflu ?🤪 J'ai du mal interpréter ta réponse....dsl
Comment savoir s'il faut prendre le Tamifu ou pas ?.......
Disons qu'au bout de 10jr de fièvres je commencerais a m'inquiéter....Tu vas surement me dire oui ! mais la dengue, le palu, et tout les autres petites saletés qui trainent...Rappellons les symptomes H1N1 :
On constate, après une incubation (période comprise entre la contamination par la grippe A H1N1 et l'apparition des premiers symptômes) de 24 à 48 heures :Une élévation importante de la température pouvant aller jusqu'à 41° centigrades.Des douleurs surtout de type musculaire dans l'ensemble du corps et, comme pour la grippe habituelle, dans le dos essentiellement.Des douleurs au niveau de la gorge associées à des maux de tête (céphalées).Une prostration (avec affaiblissement extrême) quelquefois avec fatigue intense mais variable selon les individus.Des difficultés à respirer, quelquefois très importantes.Une toux plutôt sèche qui a d'autre part la caractéristique d'être profonde et qui apparaît sous la forme de quintes (d'accès, d'épisodes).Un jetage (c'est-à-dire un écoulement par le nez) très important.Une perte d'appétit survenant brutalement.Pour ma part je t'avouerais que je commencerais a m'inquiéter aprés une dizaine de jours a 40Degrés et un manque d'appétit (chose impossible en temps normal pour ma part😄)
Dans ce cas il faut des masques de la classe qui convient.
Pour les masques je travaille en tant que Manager dans une boite de Propreté ( autant te dire que nos plans de continuité en cas de Pandémie sont deja fait depuis longtemps ), et nous avons deja achetés tellement d'équipements🤪🤪🤪 ! Je vous donne la référence des masques de "protection" que je posséde :
"Masque de proctection respiratoire FFP2 à usage unique" (www.alltex.fr) c'est peut etre un fournisseur d'entreprise ...
Concernant la prise de Tamiflu ?🤪 J'ai du mal interpréter ta réponse....dsl
Comment savoir s'il faut prendre le Tamifu ou pas ?.......
Disons qu'au bout de 10jr de fièvres je commencerais a m'inquiéter....Tu vas surement me dire oui ! mais la dengue, le palu, et tout les autres petites saletés qui trainent...Rappellons les symptomes H1N1 :
On constate, après une incubation (période comprise entre la contamination par la grippe A H1N1 et l'apparition des premiers symptômes) de 24 à 48 heures :Une élévation importante de la température pouvant aller jusqu'à 41° centigrades.Des douleurs surtout de type musculaire dans l'ensemble du corps et, comme pour la grippe habituelle, dans le dos essentiellement.Des douleurs au niveau de la gorge associées à des maux de tête (céphalées).Une prostration (avec affaiblissement extrême) quelquefois avec fatigue intense mais variable selon les individus.Des difficultés à respirer, quelquefois très importantes.Une toux plutôt sèche qui a d'autre part la caractéristique d'être profonde et qui apparaît sous la forme de quintes (d'accès, d'épisodes).Un jetage (c'est-à-dire un écoulement par le nez) très important.Une perte d'appétit survenant brutalement.Pour ma part je t'avouerais que je commencerais a m'inquiéter aprés une dizaine de jours a 40Degrés et un manque d'appétit (chose impossible en temps normal pour ma part😄)
Dans ce cas il faut des masques de la classe qui convient.
Pour les masques je travaille en tant que Manager dans une boite de Propreté ( autant te dire que nos plans de continuité en cas de Pandémie sont deja fait depuis longtemps ), et nous avons deja achetés tellement d'équipements🤪🤪🤪 ! Je vous donne la référence des masques de "protection" que je posséde :
"Masque de proctection respiratoire FFP2 à usage unique" (www.alltex.fr) c'est peut etre un fournisseur d'entreprise ...
Oublié dans son pays, inconnu ailleurs, tel est le destin du voyageur...
Concernant la prise de Tamiflu ?🤪 J'ai du mal interpréter ta réponse....dsl
Oui. L'OMS déconseille de traiter de manière systématique au Tamiflu et recommande de le réserver aux cas graves.
Disons qu'au bout de 10jr de fièvres je commencerais a m'inquiéter....
Au bout de 10 jours tu es tranquille : ce n'est pas la grippe, elle est guérie avant, ou alors tu as des complications respiratoires très sérieuses, genre pneumonie.
Michel
Oui. L'OMS déconseille de traiter de manière systématique au Tamiflu et recommande de le réserver aux cas graves.
Disons qu'au bout de 10jr de fièvres je commencerais a m'inquiéter....
Au bout de 10 jours tu es tranquille : ce n'est pas la grippe, elle est guérie avant, ou alors tu as des complications respiratoires très sérieuses, genre pneumonie.
Michel
Au bout de 10 jours tu es tranquille : ce n'est pas la grippe, elle est guérie avant
5 jours alors ?🤪
5 jours alors ?🤪
Oublié dans son pays, inconnu ailleurs, tel est le destin du voyageur...
5 jours alors ?🤪
Si j'ai bien compris la grippe dure 4 ou 5 jours environ.
Michel
Si j'ai bien compris la grippe dure 4 ou 5 jours environ.
Michel
Inch'allah 😎
la vie est si courte mieux vaut en profiter !
dis moi connais tu le moyen orient toi ?
jamais loin d'Istanbul
jamais loin d'Istanbul
Oublié dans son pays, inconnu ailleurs, tel est le destin du voyageur...
Qu'est-ce que tu appelles le moyen orient ?
Michel
Michel
Je vais pas à Mumbai mais à Hyderabad. Je vais prendre 1 boite de Tamiflu mais je ne l'utiliserais pas sans l'avis d'un médecin sur place.
On ma dit que si on choppe la Grippe A c'est au but du 5 jour qu'on le remarque.
Bon Voila quoi je me prépare pour aller en Inde sans trop penser a tout ça car sinon je ne dors plus.
On ma dit que si on choppe la Grippe A c'est au but du 5 jour qu'on le remarque.
Bon Voila quoi je me prépare pour aller en Inde sans trop penser a tout ça car sinon je ne dors plus.
parce que pour une grippe hivernale, vous vous en rendez compte au bout de 5 jours ???
la grippe H1N1, c'est avant tout une grippe, à traiter par antipyrétique (paracétamol) et hydratation orale, et le début est brutal généralement.
le Tamiflu est réservé aux personnes présentant un tableau grave ou ayant des comorbidités majeures (insuffiance cardiaque, respiratoire, ttt corticoïdes au long cours..) en dehors de ces cas, il n'y a aucun interet à prendre du Tamiflu
la grippe H1N1, c'est avant tout une grippe, à traiter par antipyrétique (paracétamol) et hydratation orale, et le début est brutal généralement.
le Tamiflu est réservé aux personnes présentant un tableau grave ou ayant des comorbidités majeures (insuffiance cardiaque, respiratoire, ttt corticoïdes au long cours..) en dehors de ces cas, il n'y a aucun interet à prendre du Tamiflu
... quand on ... refusera d'être votre voisin dans l'avion
Super comme conseil 😉
Et si on met "deux" masques tu crois qu'on aura 2 sièges de "libre"
Super comme conseil 😉
Et si on met "deux" masques tu crois qu'on aura 2 sièges de "libre"
"Nous ne sommes plus une communauté d'être humains qui se parlent mais un conglomérat de grappes de consommateurs en niches, séparés les uns des autres par des obsessions diverses et innombrables. Nous sommes de l'ère de la désintégration." Marc Moulin (1942-2008) in Humoeurs
180 morts de l encephalite japonaise au mois de juillet, en Uttar Pradesh et Assam, et quelques cas de cholera dans le Gujarat (Surat)
De nombreux cas de paludisme (malaria) ont été signalés dans plusieurs états en Inde. A Goa, plus de 2'400 cas ont été recensés en 2009, parmi lesquels 20% d'infections à P. falciparum. Au Rajasthan, où la principale période de transmission de la maladie s'étend de juin à novembre, 7'000 cas ont déjà été signalés, dont 500 infections à P. falciparum. Le nombre de cas augmente également à Mumbai , dans l'Orissa et au Bengale-Occidental
concernant la question initiale🙂, une grippe reste une grippe, mais la com indienne est plus flippante encore que ce qui se passe en France, breaking news et articles speciaux dans tout les journaux, ecrits et JT...
bon voyage
De nombreux cas de paludisme (malaria) ont été signalés dans plusieurs états en Inde. A Goa, plus de 2'400 cas ont été recensés en 2009, parmi lesquels 20% d'infections à P. falciparum. Au Rajasthan, où la principale période de transmission de la maladie s'étend de juin à novembre, 7'000 cas ont déjà été signalés, dont 500 infections à P. falciparum. Le nombre de cas augmente également à Mumbai , dans l'Orissa et au Bengale-Occidental
concernant la question initiale🙂, une grippe reste une grippe, mais la com indienne est plus flippante encore que ce qui se passe en France, breaking news et articles speciaux dans tout les journaux, ecrits et JT...
bon voyage
La grippe A n'est QUE une grippe. Certes, en Inde, le système de santé (tout le monde n'a pas les moyens ni le réflexe d'aller chez le docteur à la première fièvre, sans parler du fatalisme ambiant) ET les conditions d'hygiène pitoyables font qu'elle va se répandre, alors que l'accès aux produits miracles reste difficile POUR LES INDIENS PAUVRES.
MAIS faut pas pousser, je vis ici, à Bangalore (plusieurs décès depuis 2 mois), avec un cas de H1N1 dans la résidence où j'habite avec ma famille, et on n'est pas plus inquiet que ça, ma fille sort, fait du vélo avec ses copains russes, américains, indiens, singapouriens... , va retourner à l'école (fermée pour faire semblant de faire quelque chose).
Une faible proportion (jeunes enfants / personnes âgées / personnes immuno-déprimées) de personnes décède, comme chaque année pour la variante annuelle de la grippe. Le reste se paie juste une bonne grippe des familles.
Surveillez plutôt la Dengue (de retour), le Palu, les amibes...
Une faible proportion (jeunes enfants / personnes âgées / personnes immuno-déprimées) de personnes décède, comme chaque année pour la variante annuelle de la grippe. Le reste se paie juste une bonne grippe des familles.
Surveillez plutôt la Dengue (de retour), le Palu, les amibes...
bonsoir,
une solution efficace et de porter le burqa et un masque par dessus, les mulsumanes peuvent être tranquille 😏avec la grippe.............moi aussi je pars en inde pour un mois en novembre et ça ne m'enchante plus!!!!! On me déconseille chaque fois d'yaller mais l'année dernière j'ai du annuler le vol à cause d'un attentat...
Maintenant il ne me reste plus qu'à tenter le coup ;;;
tashi delek à tous
ce qui me préoccupe n'est pas la grippe mais le risque que les frontières soient fermées avant mon arrivée en inde!😛
shantideva disait:"s'il y a un remède, à quoi bon le mécontentement, et s'il n'y en a pas, à quoi bon le mécontentement"
marc aurèle a dit aussi à peu près la même chose; tout ça pour dire qu'on peut attraper la grippe ou avoir un accident devant chez soi, s' inquiéter ne changera rien alors pour ma part, je ne m'inquiète pas et je profite de cette précieuse existence humaine 🙂
bon voyage à ceux qui partent, je serai en inde en décembre et je suis très impatiente!
"au beau milieu de l'hiver, j'ai découvert qu'il y avait en moi un invincible été" Albert Camus
http://lerevedesophie.over-blog.com
je suis comme toi
pas peur de la grippe mais plutôt que les frontières se ferment et que l'on m'empêche de partir
Bonjour,
mais plutôt que les frontières se ferment et que l'on m'empêche de partir
Qu'est-ce qui vous ferait penser cela ?
Michel
mais plutôt que les frontières se ferment et que l'on m'empêche de partir
Qu'est-ce qui vous ferait penser cela ?
Michel
rien
c'est juste ce que me souhaite mes collègues pour me "charier" 😉
rien ne l'indique actuellement mais si la pandémie s'étend, l'OMS peut décider de fermer les frontières de certains pays ou de tous pour mise en quarantaine et pour empêcher le virus de se propager, plus il y a d'échange entre pays et plus l'épidémie peut se déplacer
espèrons qu'on n'en arrive pas à ces extrémités et qu'on puisse aller en inde🙂
"au beau milieu de l'hiver, j'ai découvert qu'il y avait en moi un invincible été" Albert Camus
http://lerevedesophie.over-blog.com
rien ne l'indique actuellement mais si la pandémie s'étend, l'OMS peut décider de fermer les frontières de certains pays ou de tous pour mise en quarantaine et pour empêcher le virus de se propager, plus il y a d'échange entre pays et plus l'épidémie peut se déplacer
Aucune raison de faire cela maintenant si on ne l'a pas fait avant. Et l'OMS n'a cessé de démentir d'avoir de telles intentions. Ce n'est d'ailleurs pas en son pouvoir.
Michel
Aucune raison de faire cela maintenant si on ne l'a pas fait avant. Et l'OMS n'a cessé de démentir d'avoir de telles intentions. Ce n'est d'ailleurs pas en son pouvoir.
Michel
voilà une excellente nouvelle, je vais pouvoir partir!
merci beaucoup pour cette info😉
tashi delek
"au beau milieu de l'hiver, j'ai découvert qu'il y avait en moi un invincible été" Albert Camus
http://lerevedesophie.over-blog.com
Ah, ce n'est jamais que mon opinion...
Michel
Michel
Ils ne pourront jamais faire une chose pareil.
arrete de t'embeter avec ca...avant que l'inde ferme ses portes aux touristes!! et comme disaient certains, l'inde est aussi touché par ce virus.
Delhi qui devait eliminer la mendicité dans ses rues pour les jeux du commonwealth va etre servi, dératisation assurée!!! ahh synisme moderne, et ce n'est pas encore fini.
Mais bon nous occidentaux bien portant arretons la panique, il y a autant de mort avec la grippe H1(mon cul)N1 qu'avec le virus normal de la grippe qui nous touche durant l'hiver....ahh merci les medias!!! faites marcher l'economie, la securité...la peur!
J'entend d'ici l'argument oui mais la vitesse de propagation est plus importante blabla ; peut etre mais le tamiflu maintenant coule à flot. Bien sur le tiers monde n'est pas sur la meme longueur d'onde, et là est le probleme! encore de petits bon hommes qui vont crever comme des chiens parce qu'ils ne sont pas nés au bon endroit.
et je finirais par "MONDE DE MERDE!"
Delhi qui devait eliminer la mendicité dans ses rues pour les jeux du commonwealth va etre servi, dératisation assurée!!! ahh synisme moderne, et ce n'est pas encore fini.
Mais bon nous occidentaux bien portant arretons la panique, il y a autant de mort avec la grippe H1(mon cul)N1 qu'avec le virus normal de la grippe qui nous touche durant l'hiver....ahh merci les medias!!! faites marcher l'economie, la securité...la peur!
J'entend d'ici l'argument oui mais la vitesse de propagation est plus importante blabla ; peut etre mais le tamiflu maintenant coule à flot. Bien sur le tiers monde n'est pas sur la meme longueur d'onde, et là est le probleme! encore de petits bon hommes qui vont crever comme des chiens parce qu'ils ne sont pas nés au bon endroit.
et je finirais par "MONDE DE MERDE!"
Les personnes ont tendances à croire tout ce qui est véhiculé sans même allé au fond des choses. Vous croyez que le vaccin vous protège ou la Tamiflu est une solution, pourquoi ne pas mieux vous renseigner?
Voici ce que des spécialistes( qui n'appartiennent pas à ces grands laboratoires, donc qui n'ont pas d'intérêt à vous mentir) nous disent à propos du Vaccin H1N1 et du Tamiflu.
Pourquoi ne pas demander à votre pharmacien, les risques qui y sont associés?
Le vaccin contre la grippe A ou grippe porcine H 1N1, entraînera un oedème cérébral plus ou moins transitoire, ainsi qu’une chute plus ou moins importante des lymphocytes T4 et T8 avec des risques importants d’atteintes du système nerveux périphérique pouvant donné le syndrome de Guillain-Barrée.
Vaccins et anti-viraux tel que Tamiflu, peuvent favoriser la sélection de virus plus virulents, par le constant phénomène de commutation, tandis que la présence d’aluminium favorisera ultérieurement la survenue de myofasciite à macrophages et une augmentation de la fréquence de la maladie d’Alzheimer. Vous voulez conserver votre santé mieux vaut protéger votre système immunitaire.
Voici ce que des spécialistes( qui n'appartiennent pas à ces grands laboratoires, donc qui n'ont pas d'intérêt à vous mentir) nous disent à propos du Vaccin H1N1 et du Tamiflu.
Pourquoi ne pas demander à votre pharmacien, les risques qui y sont associés?
Le vaccin contre la grippe A ou grippe porcine H 1N1, entraînera un oedème cérébral plus ou moins transitoire, ainsi qu’une chute plus ou moins importante des lymphocytes T4 et T8 avec des risques importants d’atteintes du système nerveux périphérique pouvant donné le syndrome de Guillain-Barrée.
Vaccins et anti-viraux tel que Tamiflu, peuvent favoriser la sélection de virus plus virulents, par le constant phénomène de commutation, tandis que la présence d’aluminium favorisera ultérieurement la survenue de myofasciite à macrophages et une augmentation de la fréquence de la maladie d’Alzheimer. Vous voulez conserver votre santé mieux vaut protéger votre système immunitaire.
Yvandia Herin
Les personnes ont tendances à croire tout ce qui est véhiculé sans même allé au fond des choses. Vous croyez que le vaccin vous protège ou la Tamiflu est une solution, pourquoi ne pas mieux vous renseigner?
C'est à moi que vous vous adressez ? 🤪
Michel
C'est à moi que vous vous adressez ? 🤪
Michel
je serais vraiment curieuse de lire les articles médicaux concernant ce que tu avances
"une augmentation d'Alzheimer"?????!!!!
fournis tes sources 😕
Entre ce nom dans ton moteur de recherche. Jane Burgermeister
Hélas les septiques regretterons peut-être trop tard leur scepticisme.
A l'époque de l'esclavage la maxime était " Marche ou Crève" Aujourd'hui cela risque d'être" Réveille ou Crève.
En souhaitant qu'il y ait un maximum de personnes qui se réveillent avant d'y laisser leur santé.
Puisses-tu en prendre conscience!
Hélas les septiques regretterons peut-être trop tard leur scepticisme.
A l'époque de l'esclavage la maxime était " Marche ou Crève" Aujourd'hui cela risque d'être" Réveille ou Crève.
En souhaitant qu'il y ait un maximum de personnes qui se réveillent avant d'y laisser leur santé.
Puisses-tu en prendre conscience!
Yvandia Herin
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Après un faux départ en mars 2026 dû à l'annulation de mes vols Qatar, je reprogramme un voyage au Kerala en novembre. Pour mars, j'avais réservé et payé le trek de 2 jours/une nuit : Tiger trail dans le parc Periyar. Puis j'ai lu des avis horribles sur le parc. Sur VF, les avis sont anciens, et ne parlent pas du Tiger Trail. Aussi, avant de réserver à nouveau (j'ai le temps), quelqu'un l'a-t-il fait récemment et peut partager son expérience et ressenti. Je parle bien du Tiger Trail, pas des activités jeep/bateau du parc en lui-même, qui semblent plus relever du parc d'attractions. Merci
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Hello,
I’m heading to Sri Lanka for 3 weeks in July with my two 11-year-old kids, and I’m wondering about how to organize the trip. We’re used to traveling on the go, staying 1 to 2 or 3 nights per place depending on how we feel.
Do you recommend planning the itinerary and booking accommodations in advance to save time once we’re there? Or is it pretty easy to organize everything as we go without any issues?
Same question for activities: Should we book safaris and tours ahead of time, or can we arrange them easily on the spot? Is there a risk of not getting a spot, for example, to visit a park since we’ll be there in July?
We’ll be using local transport (train, VTC via PickMe, tuk-tuk) to get from one place to another.
In short: Are there any must-book things we should reserve now? So far, I only have the flight tickets!
Thanks in advance for your help! 😊
I’m heading to Sri Lanka for 3 weeks in July with my two 11-year-old kids, and I’m wondering about how to organize the trip. We’re used to traveling on the go, staying 1 to 2 or 3 nights per place depending on how we feel.
Do you recommend planning the itinerary and booking accommodations in advance to save time once we’re there? Or is it pretty easy to organize everything as we go without any issues?
Same question for activities: Should we book safaris and tours ahead of time, or can we arrange them easily on the spot? Is there a risk of not getting a spot, for example, to visit a park since we’ll be there in July?
We’ll be using local transport (train, VTC via PickMe, tuk-tuk) to get from one place to another.
In short: Are there any must-book things we should reserve now? So far, I only have the flight tickets!
Thanks in advance for your help! 😊
Hi there, I think you're on the right track—you plan the itinerary and book the rooms in advance, and that’s it.
Not only do you save time, but you also know where you’ll be staying each night. Choosing well on Booking (or elsewhere) is actually a pleasure!
For safaris, given the number of jeeps with drivers available, it’s unlikely you’ll be turned away... the real issue is more about the concentration of jeeps around the animals.
I travel like you do—train, bus, tuk-tuk, and sometimes taxi. Ride-hailing apps like PickMe and other VTCs are mostly in big cities.
For the mountain train, due to severe flooding, service was interrupted on the line between Kandy and Ella. Check ahead, because reservations for this train are very complicated, if not impossible.
For the Colombo/Kandy train, you reserve your seats by buying the ticket before boarding. In the south, no need to book in advance for trains.
In Sri Lanka, there’s always a solution for getting around—just ask your hosts. They have trusted contacts at their fingertips. But still, compare prices—😏 smart move!
I stick to booking my nights and keep pre-planned activities to a minimum.
For reservations you can’t skip, it’s the beach stays you’ll want to secure.
Hi there,
I’m trying to find out if it’s still possible to travel from Mumbai to Goa by ferry or any other sea route. My search results aren’t very clear, and if it *is* possible, I can’t figure out where to book... If anyone has any info, I’d really appreciate it—thanks in advance!
Have a great day,
Virginie
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Have a great day,
Virginie
It seems there’s a ferry from Nagapattinam to Jaffna in India. Has anyone here taken this ferry before? My main question is how to get to Nagapattinam—by train, bus? And from which town further south, of course.
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Hi there.
We’re spending a month in Sri Lanka in March, and we’ll have one week left after leaving Polonnaruwa.
We’re torn between spending it in the Jaffna region or on the east coast between Batticaloa and Trincomalee.
We’re divers, so the east coast appeals to us for snorkeling, beaches, and lagoons—but it seems like late March might not be the best time for that coast. What do you think?
As for Jaffna, the culture of the region, its more authentic feel since it’s less touristy, and the offshore islands all appeal to us too—but it seems far from the rest of the country and harder to access.
We have to choose because we won’t be able to visit both sides, and I’d love to hear your thoughts.
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We just got back from a 2-week trip to Sri Lanka as a couple, and while planning the trip, we found plenty of info on the itinerary, places to see, and transportation, but much fewer clear reports on the actual budget to expect once there. Yet, that was an important point for us because we like to plan ahead a little before traveling.
So, we took the time to break down our complete budget after the trip. In our case, we spent around **930 € per person** for 2 weeks, being careful without depriving ourselves, mixing guesthouses, more comfortable hotels, quite a few activities, and even a private driver for part of the stay.
What we found interesting when crunching the numbers is that in Sri Lanka, it’s not necessarily meals or short trips that blow the budget, but rather flights, certain accommodations, cultural activities, and all those little expenses we sometimes forget, like tips.
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Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! !
Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! !
Hi everyone,
We’re a group of 5 heading to the Everest Base Camp trek in early April. We won’t have a porter or guide—we’re used to hiking independently and have already done the Langtang trek and the Annapurna Circuit (back in 2003!).
I’d love to know if it’s necessary to book lodges in advance or if we’ll easily find availability during this busy season. Also, will we find lodges all along the route between the main stopover villages, or only in those villages? I remember there were plenty everywhere on the Annapurna Circuit. We want to stay as flexible as possible.
Thanks for your feedback!
We’re a group of 5 heading to the Everest Base Camp trek in early April. We won’t have a porter or guide—we’re used to hiking independently and have already done the Langtang trek and the Annapurna Circuit (back in 2003!).
I’d love to know if it’s necessary to book lodges in advance or if we’ll easily find availability during this busy season. Also, will we find lodges all along the route between the main stopover villages, or only in those villages? I remember there were plenty everywhere on the Annapurna Circuit. We want to stay as flexible as possible.
Thanks for your feedback!
Hi there,
We’re heading to India in March 2026 and had planned to visit the parts of the Meenakshi Temple that are open to non-Hindus. However, the temple is currently undergoing major renovations—with all the towers covered in scaffolding—which might really take away from the experience and our stop in Madurai.
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Thanks in advance.
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I’m leaving this Saturday for Northern India from 15/02 to 27/02. I’m planning to visit New Delhi, Agra, Chand Baori, Jaipur, Ranthambore, Bundi, Udaipur, and Jodhpur.
What’s the best way to get around? I was thinking of doing everything by train. Maybe taking the bus for some stretches?
As for renting a car with a driver, it seems expensive, so I’ve pretty much ruled that out. Unless someone’s got space for the same dates?
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What’s the best way to get around? I was thinking of doing everything by train. Maybe taking the bus for some stretches?
As for renting a car with a driver, it seems expensive, so I’ve pretty much ruled that out. Unless someone’s got space for the same dates?
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Hi everyone,
We’re heading out in March for this trek. We’re used to hiking and long-distance treks, but this’ll be our first time in Nepal.
QUESTION: People from Nepal are telling us it’s MANDATORY to have guides! Is this true, or is it just agencies trying to get work for their staff?
The Lonely Planet says: "In April 2023, the government announced that every trekker would need to hire the services of a porter or a licensed guide to obtain the TIMS permit. The law isn’t enforced, and by 2025, there were no longer any obligations for teahouse treks."
What do you think? What’s your experience? Thanks for your feedback.
We’re heading out in March for this trek. We’re used to hiking and long-distance treks, but this’ll be our first time in Nepal.
QUESTION: People from Nepal are telling us it’s MANDATORY to have guides! Is this true, or is it just agencies trying to get work for their staff?
The Lonely Planet says: "In April 2023, the government announced that every trekker would need to hire the services of a porter or a licensed guide to obtain the TIMS permit. The law isn’t enforced, and by 2025, there were no longer any obligations for teahouse treks."
What do you think? What’s your experience? Thanks for your feedback.
Hi,
I’d like to arrive in India at New Delhi Airport with some cash. I was wondering if the exchange rates at the airport are any good or if it’s best to avoid them (and exchange in the city instead?).
Thanks for your help.
Thanks for your help.
NAMASTE NEPAL! PRACTICAL INFO AND EXPERIENCE FEEDBACK
Stay from March 25 to April 16, 2025
· Flight tickets Air India (via Delhi) (via Skyscanner) = 1130 € per person · Planned budget (and respected without too many restrictions and while buying a few small gifts) = 2000 € for the stay for two. Buses, taxis, and entrance fees to various sites represent a budget to consider. Meals are cheap. Drinks like beer/Coke, however, are not cheap and cost the equivalent of a meal. · Exchange rate of the rupee during our stay = 0.0064 € (the exchange rate is almost identical everywhere, including at the airport). · At the airport, purchase of two SIM cards (phone) = 1000 NPR x 2 for 28 days. · Kathmandu: we had booked the hotel upon arrival: Kathmandu Boutique Hotel (+977 015 357 446 – email: booking@kathmanduboutiquehotel.com), very well located in a quiet alley off the street, south of Thamel, a 10-minute walk from Durbar Square. A hotel like Nepal knows how to do, where tall people will have to duck. Night + breakfast = 18 € for two. Very warm welcome, great location, excellent value for money. · Bhaktapur: we had also booked a hotel for the end of our stay because the chance of the year 2025 made the Nepali New Year and Bisket Jatra particularly festive in Bhaktapur: Manju Baha Hotel School (+977 976 7234014 – email: manjubahahotel@gmail.com) located in an old monastery. "A social enterprise transforming an old monastery into a charming hotel, offering professional hospitality training to underprivileged Nepali youth." Night + breakfast = 32 € for two. Beautifully decorated room. Very warm welcome. Don’t miss the Changunarayan site (near Bhaktapur), it’s amazing. And if you’re lucky enough to be in Bhaktapur in mid-April for 3 days, there’s the Bisket Jatra festivities (Newari festival), joyful, noisy, fun, and wild… · Pokhara (hotel recommended by the Kathmandu hotel): Hotel Green Tara, Lakeside, 10th street, set back, quiet (Tel. +977 61 462698 – email: greentara_67@hotmail.com) · Trek permit (Lower Mustang, no need for an agency or guide, permits checked at Ghasa and Jomsom) = 2000 NPR per person (2 ID photos) · Bus Kathmandu/Pokhara and return = 2000 NPR per person · Bus Pokhara/Jomsom, 2 one-way tickets = 2800 NPR. · Taxi: negotiation with a driver we recommend, Vicky (+977 984 075 599). You explain what you want, negotiate the price, and he waits for you during the visit. Very charming, we used him several times. For example: departure from our hotel at 10 AM -> Boudhanath/Pashupatinath/Patan return at 5 PM to the hotel = 6500 NPR – Swayambhunath (round trip) = 1200 NPR · Site prices: https://ntb.gov.np/plan-your-trip/before-you-come/heritage-site-entry-fees o Visitor Pass for Kathmandu Durbar Square (for the duration of the stay, show your visa) = 1000 NPR per person (1 ID photo) o Bhaktapur Durbar Square (old town) = 1800 NPR per person o Patan = 1000 NPR per person o Swayambhu Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Boudha Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Pashupatinath Temple = 1000 NPR per person (interesting to take a guide) o Changunarayan Temple (6 km north of Bhaktapur) = 400 NPR per person o Mountain Museum in Pokhara = 750 NPR per person · E-cigarettes: e-cigarettes are banned in India and confiscated whether they’re in carry-on or checked luggage. On the way there, we had kept them in our carry-on, they were confiscated in Delhi. On the way back, learning from our previous experience, we put them in our checked luggage. Someone came to get us to take them out of our bags and confiscate them… You can find e-cigarettes and products in Kathmandu.
* * *
I’m 74 years old. I went to Nepal in 1982, 1983, and the last time in 1986. I wanted to introduce this beautiful and endearing country to my husband, and it was… now or never. So we decided it was now.
I knew the trek starting from Pokhara: Naudanda/Birethanti/Ghorepani/Tatopani/Kalopani. There was no way I was going to do that trek, especially the 1000-meter staircase to reach Ghorepani… You have to stay humble with age.
Back then, the road didn’t exist. I didn’t consider, with the construction of this road (NH48) along the western bank of the Kali Gandaki, doing a trek along a windy and dusty road. Was there an alternative hiking trail on the eastern bank? No one answered my question on VoyageForum, so I did my research online. And I found this site: "Andrées de Ruiter and Prem Rai - Trekking the Annapurna Circuit, including the new NATT trails that avoid the road - A guide to one of the most beautiful trekking regions in Nepal and the world (2011) - NATT = New Annapurna Trekking Trail".
Phew! A solution was emerging. This circuit from 2011 wasn’t fully marked. The idea was to go from Jomsom to Tatopani, so we needed to make sure the path was well-marked all the way, which we did, and the path exists, marked in red and white!
So, with the walking times information, we built our 8-day circuit:
· Jomsom/Thinigaon · Thinigaon/Chimang · Chimang/Saura · Saura/Kokhetanti · Rest day or, if in good shape: loop to Sekong Lake · Kokhetanti/Jhipra Deurali · Jhipra Deurali/Kopchepani · Kopchepani/Tatopani
It’s a senior trek, after all. So the walking times noted on the sites indicated 3 hours or even 4 hours for the two longest stages. That pace suited us fine.
On March 29, we left Kathmandu (1400m), after visiting the must-see sites, by bus to Pokhara: 200 km and 8.5 hours on a chaotic road under construction. I had a memory of Pokhara where it was the first city where you could see the Himalayan range, especially Machhapuchhare. But the pollution is such, the dust raised by traffic and construction, that no horizon is visible except the first hills around Pokhara.
We stayed 24 hours in Pokhara (820m), and on March 31, we left our luggage at the hotel and set off with our lightest backpacks: change of clothes, toiletries, first aid kit, anti-chafing cream, water bottle, sleeping bag liner, and light shoes for the stages.
We took the bus to Jomsom: 160 km/7.5 hours including stops for bathroom breaks, tea, and lunch. The road is nothing but a chaos of potholes, landslides, construction, dust, rebuilding, and mudslides. In Ghasa, the bus stops, and we’re told we’re at a checkpoint and that the two foreigners in the bus, my husband and I, need to have our permits checked, which takes a few minutes. The driving is rock-and-roll, surprising, and courteous. The drivers have their codes, and on these improbable roads, they’re virtuosos.
We could have chosen the plane, but several reasons dissuaded us: if there’s too much wind, the planes don’t take off; personally, I wasn’t reassured about landing in Jomsom, and this transport has a cost.
We arrived around 2 PM in Jomsom (2720m), and despite the early wake-up, the nearly 8 hours on the bus, and the altitude, we decided to head straight to Thinigaon (2840m). At the Jomsom checkpoint, they told us it was a 30-minute walk. Great! Except we took an hour and a half on an uphill road, bent over to fight a strong wind. But the Himalayan range is there! The Dhaulagiri, the Nilgiri, the Annapurnas as a reward.
In Thinigaon, we found a room at the "Nilgiri View Hotel" run by a didi (big sister in Nepali). From the lodge’s roof, she proudly showed us the different peaks surrounding the village and told us, worried, that it hadn’t snowed here for 3 years. She said there are very few tourists, that the season is rather in September/October/November. It seems there’s not a soul in this village, yet mules pass through the narrow street paved with large flat stones, their bells ringing. We dine at 6 PM and go to bed… Room = 1200 NPR and dinner, breakfast, and drinks = 2560 NPR.
On April 1, we set off at 9 AM, not for Chimang as planned but for Marpha! The didi from the Thinigaon lodge had said it was a 3-hour walk. The first part of this stage is attractive, the mountains are magnificent and imposing, the landscape is superb, there’s no one around, a feeling of being "alone in the world." We follow Dhumbra Tal, this small green lake. The path is a rocky track that climbs steeply. Then, around a hill, we start the big descent that joins the Kali Gandaki. We face the wind head-on, and the violent gusts take our breath away, throw us off balance, and envelop us in dust. We see the road on the other side of the Kali Gandaki. We arrive in the village of Chhairo at 2 PM, completely exhausted and with blistered feet, after 5 hours of walking instead of the planned 3.5 hours.
We’re welcomed by the village nurse, who tells us there’s a lodge in the village. Chhairo is a Tibetan village, a 20-minute walk from Marpha (according to the locals, multiply by 2 or even 3 for us…). We’re going to revise our trek plan and, first of all, spend the night in Chhairo.
The lodge is quite pleasant, and Karma, the hostess, is very friendly. She asks about our plans and suggests we stay in Chhairo the next day, from where we can visit Marpha and also Chimang, a 1-hour walk away, in light mode, meaning without backpacks. She invites us to participate in a village ceremony the next evening.
We immediately accept the proposal, as our feet need rest and the welcome is so warm… Dinner and bed!
We reworked our trek plan, which was too ambitious for our untrained bodies and, let’s face it… no longer in our first youth. In the initial plan, we thought there wouldn’t be too much elevation gain following the Kali Gandaki, but checking the map, we realize there might be significant elevation changes between Sauru and Sirkung. So we plan:
· Tomorrow: visit Marpha (2670m) and Chimang (2744m) · April 3: bus from Chhairo (2700m) to Kalopani (2530m) and continue on foot to Ghasa (2010m) · April 4: Ghasa/Pairataplo (1940m) · April 5: Pairatapla/Gadpar (1580m) · April 6: Gadpar/Narchyang (1510m) · April 7: Narchyang/Tatopani (1190m) · April 8: return to Pokhara.
Normally, it’s all downhill…
April 2, a rest day then… We set off in the morning to explore Marpha. We have to take a temporary bridge because the suspension bridge is closed due to road construction. We join the road and arrive in Marpha, a village famous for its apple orchards, brandy, cider, and apple juice production. This village is magnificent with its stone houses and monastery clinging to the hillside. The road construction spared it. There are people, but very few Western tourists.
We have lunch in Marpha and go back through Chhairo to take the path to Chimang. We cross a fragrant pine forest and find the rocky path; the landscape is splendid. We walk quietly, passing peaceful buffaloes and cows, and arrive at the foot of a stone staircase… 275 steps (which we counted on the way back) leading us to the village of Chimang. Chimang is an isolated Newari village that seems a bit desolate. Despite the slopes, there are crops on every little bit of land. Thankfully, we changed our initial program because there’s no lodge in this village, contrary to what we saw on a map… We wander through the village, which seems very deserted, have coffee in a house from another world, and then head back to Chhairo.
A rest day? = 5 hours of walking!!
Dinner and village ceremony. From what we understand, this ceremony is in honor of the Dalai Lama. Men, women, and children in traditional costumes gather twice a month; they dance, make, and offer small sweet cakes with Tibetan tea (made from tea, yak butter—often rancid—water, and salt). Surprising for first-timers…
Around 10 PM, we leave the ceremony; tomorrow morning, we need to be on the roadside by 7 AM to catch the bus to Kalopani…
This village of Chhairo is very pleasant and welcoming, no tourists, just two motorcyclists who arrived in the evening, one of whom participated in the ceremony and discreetly poured his Tibetan tea outside.
Lodge: "Norsang Tibetan Guesthouse and Restaurant". Total bill for 2 nights, 2 dinners, 2 breakfasts, and drinks = 8000 NPR.
April 3: bus from Chhairo to Kalopani, about 1.5 hours for the 20 km (200 NPR per person). We descend on the right bank of the Kali Gandaki. We find the red and white markings to resume the trek toward Ghasa. We’re in a fragrant pine forest, the Dhaulagiri on one side and the Annapurnas on the other, magnificent, and the path is pleasant and easy. We get a bit lost in this forest, always looking for the markings. Near Lete, two trekkers pass us, and we meet them again a little further on with two very young children, to whom we give the 2 hard-boiled eggs I didn’t eat this morning. They accepted them without hesitation.
We arrive in a village and ask for directions to Ghasa. The young girls point the way. But we come across a forest being logged, trees cut in all directions. We turn back and ask for confirmation. They confirm… But the two young girls catch up with us and clear the way. We have to step over, go around, and cross the felled trees, with no indication at all. Through this pick-up sticks of felled trees, the girls lead us to the top of a stone staircase, indicating that was the path. It’s the only place where we saw rhododendrons in bloom.
We descend the staircase. At the bottom, to the left, there’s a bridge to go toward Choyo, and to the right, a path to Ghasa. We take the right path and join the road. We should normally find the red and white markings, but we don’t… So we continue on the western bank road of the Kali Gandaki.
A little before the village of Misi, we see fumaroles on the opposite bank that seem to come from the ground. We don’t understand. We stopped to eat in the village of Misi (noodle soup = 600 NPR), but it’s hard to communicate with the elderly people running the guesthouse.
We continued on the road, not finding the marked path parallel to the road. Landslides, both on the left and right banks, seem to have taken over the marked routes. It’s a place where the Kali Gandaki gorge narrows, and on the opposite bank, the mountain smokes more and more, and we now hear the crackling of fire. Across from us, the mountain is burning… Our initial plan had us passing on that burning bank right now…
We arrive in Ghasa at 3:30 PM, a 6.5-hour stage but with a 1-hour stop at noon. We’re at the "Florida Guesthouse and Restaurant." From our room, we see the mountain smoking on the other side of the river, and at night, we see the flames. In this village, posters show Himalayan eagles and vultures that seem to be protected species. Indeed, we saw (and heard) 3 eagles circling today.
April 4 – Today, heading to Pairothapla or Kopchepani depending on our feet, accommodation options, and simply our desires.
No more smoke on the mountain this morning. It’s chilly, 7:45 AM, the sky is clear, just a smell of smoke outside.
Price of the lodge = 1000 NPR for the night + 3580 NPR for meals.
We cross Ghasa, which stretches over more than a kilometer. We have a drink at the last guesthouse in the village, and the didi, when she learns our destination, tells us to be careful because the villages we’re going to aren’t safe. Should we distribute our rupees in different pockets? Nah, we kept going.
At the exit of Ghasa, we find the red and white markings and take the suspension bridge to cross the boiling waters of the Kali Gandaki. The passage is impressive because the river is tumultuous. Lots of climbs and even more descents. We’re back on the eastern bank. It’s hot! On the narrow path, we meet a group of buffaloes. Who has the right of way? We decide to stick as close as possible to the rock wall and move forward calmly. The buffaloes look at us, chewing placidly, with no intention of jumping on us. Phew!
After a 5-hour stage (including stops), we arrive in Pairothapla, with hot feet and firm thighs, and decide we won’t go any further. It’s a good thing because there’s a lodge, the most basic so far, but with a great welcome. We have a meal and a short nap. The buffaloes we met on the way belong to this house. They come to drink at the fountain by the path.
Our host, very pleasant, doesn’t know what to do to please us and is very attentive. He wants to chat. He has two children, a 4-year-old girl and a 7-year-old boy. Where do they go to school? Do they go? He tells us that the fires in the mountain are caused by people, but for what reason? We won’t find out, but it’s illegal. From here, we can still see smoke rising in the distance. The wife is a bit less friendly. Corn kernels dry on a woven straw mat on the ground, and the mom sorts them.
From where we are, we overlook the valley and see the road under construction winding along the mountainside on the other bank.
Dinner on the terrace of the house overlooking the path, windbreaker and fleece on: dal bhat chicken for me and chicken curry for my husband: "organic" products, at least local production. There are small vegetable gardens everywhere with all sorts of vegetables.
April 5 – While we’re having breakfast on the terrace of our lodge, 5 porters, straps on their foreheads, heavily loaded, pass by on the path. A few minutes later, a group of 9 people appears. It must be said that since the beginning of our journey, we’ve met very few hikers. Two backpackers in Chhairo, the two hikers near Lete, two female hikers passed us before Pairothapla, a solo female hiker passed us…
The lodge in Pairothapla is called "Bimala Lodge & Thakali Kitchen" – Price for night + 4 meals + 2 breakfasts = 3000 NPR.
The descent toward the Kali Gandaki involves climbs whose steps we didn’t count. Clearly, the landslides on the mountain cause changes to the official ACAP trek marked in red and white, and the marking updates can’t keep up with the pace of these landslides. It’s almost always by chance that we find the markings. Fortunately, we can follow the power line that guides us somewhat.
Drink stop in Kopchepani, the legs are fine, but the feet don’t like being tightly enclosed. A group of trekkers with porters passes on the path. We met buffaloes that we kindly let pass; the path was wide enough, but it was a staircase going up, and we didn’t want to take any risks.
Across, a view of the magnificent Rupse Waterfall on the other bank of the Kali Gandaki, at the bottom, lots of vehicles and people.
Arrival in Gadpar after crossing a rather unwelcoming small village and cultivated gardens between dry stone walls, each better built than the last.
First lodge spotted, first lodge adopted to answer the call of our feet, and a very warm welcome from the owner. Since we hadn’t eaten at noon, we had Tibetan bread/jam. 6-hour stage including 1 hour of stops. Night + dinner + breakfast + drinks = 5060 NPR
April 6 – Today, heading to Narchyang.
For several days, we’ve seen banana trees with their bunches of fruit and even a prickly pear with large fruits ripening.
This stage is quite peaceful and pleasant. We take a suspension bridge to cross a tributary of the Kali Gandaki. While we’re resting for a moment before crossing the bridge, a couple of porters, a man and a woman, arrive and start across the bridge with their wood load in a basket held by a strap on their forehead, making them bend. We set off too… lighter than them.
On the other side of the bridge… a stone staircase, and it climbs steeply. The porter couple didn’t take this staircase; they went right on the path.
At the top of the staircase, we arrive in Narchyang after a 4-hour stage. A magnificent waterfall overlooks the village. We get lost in this fairly large village looking for a lodge. After wandering around for a while, we ask for directions, and an 84-year-old man takes us through the whole village and accompanies us to a very nice lodge run by a woman.
We chat with our hostess, who asks where we’re from and where we’re going. We explain that we want to reach Tatopani the next day and then return to Pokhara. She tells us there are 4x4s going directly to Pokhara and that it would probably be easier than taking a bus that might be full in Tatopani. After a quick consultation, we decide to return to Pokhara the next day by 4x4. She finds us a 4x4 with 2 seats left, departure at 8 AM – 5 hours on the road and 1500 NPR per person. A charming didi who does everything to be pleasant and helpful.
Narchyang community lodge = night + snacks + dinner + breakfast = 3000 NPR.
There you go, our trek ends tomorrow. Many necessary changes and adaptations to our initial trek, but no regrets, it was superb and a great experience that, for my part, I won’t be able to repeat. Always this encounter with the endearing, welcoming, curious, and very kind Nepali people. It was now or never, and we did it!
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In conclusion, 3 full weeks in Nepal is a duration that allows visiting Kathmandu, Patan, and Bhaktapur, enjoying the various sites, and soaking in the atmosphere and urban Nepali life.
The trek, even revised and corrected, allowed us to get close to the impressive Annapurna and Dhaulagiri peaks. One or two acclimatization days might be necessary to get the body in tune with this magical and extraordinary land.
Stay from March 25 to April 16, 2025
· Flight tickets Air India (via Delhi) (via Skyscanner) = 1130 € per person · Planned budget (and respected without too many restrictions and while buying a few small gifts) = 2000 € for the stay for two. Buses, taxis, and entrance fees to various sites represent a budget to consider. Meals are cheap. Drinks like beer/Coke, however, are not cheap and cost the equivalent of a meal. · Exchange rate of the rupee during our stay = 0.0064 € (the exchange rate is almost identical everywhere, including at the airport). · At the airport, purchase of two SIM cards (phone) = 1000 NPR x 2 for 28 days. · Kathmandu: we had booked the hotel upon arrival: Kathmandu Boutique Hotel (+977 015 357 446 – email: booking@kathmanduboutiquehotel.com), very well located in a quiet alley off the street, south of Thamel, a 10-minute walk from Durbar Square. A hotel like Nepal knows how to do, where tall people will have to duck. Night + breakfast = 18 € for two. Very warm welcome, great location, excellent value for money. · Bhaktapur: we had also booked a hotel for the end of our stay because the chance of the year 2025 made the Nepali New Year and Bisket Jatra particularly festive in Bhaktapur: Manju Baha Hotel School (+977 976 7234014 – email: manjubahahotel@gmail.com) located in an old monastery. "A social enterprise transforming an old monastery into a charming hotel, offering professional hospitality training to underprivileged Nepali youth." Night + breakfast = 32 € for two. Beautifully decorated room. Very warm welcome. Don’t miss the Changunarayan site (near Bhaktapur), it’s amazing. And if you’re lucky enough to be in Bhaktapur in mid-April for 3 days, there’s the Bisket Jatra festivities (Newari festival), joyful, noisy, fun, and wild… · Pokhara (hotel recommended by the Kathmandu hotel): Hotel Green Tara, Lakeside, 10th street, set back, quiet (Tel. +977 61 462698 – email: greentara_67@hotmail.com) · Trek permit (Lower Mustang, no need for an agency or guide, permits checked at Ghasa and Jomsom) = 2000 NPR per person (2 ID photos) · Bus Kathmandu/Pokhara and return = 2000 NPR per person · Bus Pokhara/Jomsom, 2 one-way tickets = 2800 NPR. · Taxi: negotiation with a driver we recommend, Vicky (+977 984 075 599). You explain what you want, negotiate the price, and he waits for you during the visit. Very charming, we used him several times. For example: departure from our hotel at 10 AM -> Boudhanath/Pashupatinath/Patan return at 5 PM to the hotel = 6500 NPR – Swayambhunath (round trip) = 1200 NPR · Site prices: https://ntb.gov.np/plan-your-trip/before-you-come/heritage-site-entry-fees o Visitor Pass for Kathmandu Durbar Square (for the duration of the stay, show your visa) = 1000 NPR per person (1 ID photo) o Bhaktapur Durbar Square (old town) = 1800 NPR per person o Patan = 1000 NPR per person o Swayambhu Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Boudha Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Pashupatinath Temple = 1000 NPR per person (interesting to take a guide) o Changunarayan Temple (6 km north of Bhaktapur) = 400 NPR per person o Mountain Museum in Pokhara = 750 NPR per person · E-cigarettes: e-cigarettes are banned in India and confiscated whether they’re in carry-on or checked luggage. On the way there, we had kept them in our carry-on, they were confiscated in Delhi. On the way back, learning from our previous experience, we put them in our checked luggage. Someone came to get us to take them out of our bags and confiscate them… You can find e-cigarettes and products in Kathmandu.
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I’m 74 years old. I went to Nepal in 1982, 1983, and the last time in 1986. I wanted to introduce this beautiful and endearing country to my husband, and it was… now or never. So we decided it was now.
I knew the trek starting from Pokhara: Naudanda/Birethanti/Ghorepani/Tatopani/Kalopani. There was no way I was going to do that trek, especially the 1000-meter staircase to reach Ghorepani… You have to stay humble with age.
Back then, the road didn’t exist. I didn’t consider, with the construction of this road (NH48) along the western bank of the Kali Gandaki, doing a trek along a windy and dusty road. Was there an alternative hiking trail on the eastern bank? No one answered my question on VoyageForum, so I did my research online. And I found this site: "Andrées de Ruiter and Prem Rai - Trekking the Annapurna Circuit, including the new NATT trails that avoid the road - A guide to one of the most beautiful trekking regions in Nepal and the world (2011) - NATT = New Annapurna Trekking Trail".
Phew! A solution was emerging. This circuit from 2011 wasn’t fully marked. The idea was to go from Jomsom to Tatopani, so we needed to make sure the path was well-marked all the way, which we did, and the path exists, marked in red and white!
So, with the walking times information, we built our 8-day circuit:
· Jomsom/Thinigaon · Thinigaon/Chimang · Chimang/Saura · Saura/Kokhetanti · Rest day or, if in good shape: loop to Sekong Lake · Kokhetanti/Jhipra Deurali · Jhipra Deurali/Kopchepani · Kopchepani/Tatopani
It’s a senior trek, after all. So the walking times noted on the sites indicated 3 hours or even 4 hours for the two longest stages. That pace suited us fine.
On March 29, we left Kathmandu (1400m), after visiting the must-see sites, by bus to Pokhara: 200 km and 8.5 hours on a chaotic road under construction. I had a memory of Pokhara where it was the first city where you could see the Himalayan range, especially Machhapuchhare. But the pollution is such, the dust raised by traffic and construction, that no horizon is visible except the first hills around Pokhara.
We stayed 24 hours in Pokhara (820m), and on March 31, we left our luggage at the hotel and set off with our lightest backpacks: change of clothes, toiletries, first aid kit, anti-chafing cream, water bottle, sleeping bag liner, and light shoes for the stages.
We took the bus to Jomsom: 160 km/7.5 hours including stops for bathroom breaks, tea, and lunch. The road is nothing but a chaos of potholes, landslides, construction, dust, rebuilding, and mudslides. In Ghasa, the bus stops, and we’re told we’re at a checkpoint and that the two foreigners in the bus, my husband and I, need to have our permits checked, which takes a few minutes. The driving is rock-and-roll, surprising, and courteous. The drivers have their codes, and on these improbable roads, they’re virtuosos.
We could have chosen the plane, but several reasons dissuaded us: if there’s too much wind, the planes don’t take off; personally, I wasn’t reassured about landing in Jomsom, and this transport has a cost.
We arrived around 2 PM in Jomsom (2720m), and despite the early wake-up, the nearly 8 hours on the bus, and the altitude, we decided to head straight to Thinigaon (2840m). At the Jomsom checkpoint, they told us it was a 30-minute walk. Great! Except we took an hour and a half on an uphill road, bent over to fight a strong wind. But the Himalayan range is there! The Dhaulagiri, the Nilgiri, the Annapurnas as a reward.
In Thinigaon, we found a room at the "Nilgiri View Hotel" run by a didi (big sister in Nepali). From the lodge’s roof, she proudly showed us the different peaks surrounding the village and told us, worried, that it hadn’t snowed here for 3 years. She said there are very few tourists, that the season is rather in September/October/November. It seems there’s not a soul in this village, yet mules pass through the narrow street paved with large flat stones, their bells ringing. We dine at 6 PM and go to bed… Room = 1200 NPR and dinner, breakfast, and drinks = 2560 NPR.
On April 1, we set off at 9 AM, not for Chimang as planned but for Marpha! The didi from the Thinigaon lodge had said it was a 3-hour walk. The first part of this stage is attractive, the mountains are magnificent and imposing, the landscape is superb, there’s no one around, a feeling of being "alone in the world." We follow Dhumbra Tal, this small green lake. The path is a rocky track that climbs steeply. Then, around a hill, we start the big descent that joins the Kali Gandaki. We face the wind head-on, and the violent gusts take our breath away, throw us off balance, and envelop us in dust. We see the road on the other side of the Kali Gandaki. We arrive in the village of Chhairo at 2 PM, completely exhausted and with blistered feet, after 5 hours of walking instead of the planned 3.5 hours.
We’re welcomed by the village nurse, who tells us there’s a lodge in the village. Chhairo is a Tibetan village, a 20-minute walk from Marpha (according to the locals, multiply by 2 or even 3 for us…). We’re going to revise our trek plan and, first of all, spend the night in Chhairo.
The lodge is quite pleasant, and Karma, the hostess, is very friendly. She asks about our plans and suggests we stay in Chhairo the next day, from where we can visit Marpha and also Chimang, a 1-hour walk away, in light mode, meaning without backpacks. She invites us to participate in a village ceremony the next evening.
We immediately accept the proposal, as our feet need rest and the welcome is so warm… Dinner and bed!
We reworked our trek plan, which was too ambitious for our untrained bodies and, let’s face it… no longer in our first youth. In the initial plan, we thought there wouldn’t be too much elevation gain following the Kali Gandaki, but checking the map, we realize there might be significant elevation changes between Sauru and Sirkung. So we plan:
· Tomorrow: visit Marpha (2670m) and Chimang (2744m) · April 3: bus from Chhairo (2700m) to Kalopani (2530m) and continue on foot to Ghasa (2010m) · April 4: Ghasa/Pairataplo (1940m) · April 5: Pairatapla/Gadpar (1580m) · April 6: Gadpar/Narchyang (1510m) · April 7: Narchyang/Tatopani (1190m) · April 8: return to Pokhara.
Normally, it’s all downhill…
April 2, a rest day then… We set off in the morning to explore Marpha. We have to take a temporary bridge because the suspension bridge is closed due to road construction. We join the road and arrive in Marpha, a village famous for its apple orchards, brandy, cider, and apple juice production. This village is magnificent with its stone houses and monastery clinging to the hillside. The road construction spared it. There are people, but very few Western tourists.
We have lunch in Marpha and go back through Chhairo to take the path to Chimang. We cross a fragrant pine forest and find the rocky path; the landscape is splendid. We walk quietly, passing peaceful buffaloes and cows, and arrive at the foot of a stone staircase… 275 steps (which we counted on the way back) leading us to the village of Chimang. Chimang is an isolated Newari village that seems a bit desolate. Despite the slopes, there are crops on every little bit of land. Thankfully, we changed our initial program because there’s no lodge in this village, contrary to what we saw on a map… We wander through the village, which seems very deserted, have coffee in a house from another world, and then head back to Chhairo.
A rest day? = 5 hours of walking!!
Dinner and village ceremony. From what we understand, this ceremony is in honor of the Dalai Lama. Men, women, and children in traditional costumes gather twice a month; they dance, make, and offer small sweet cakes with Tibetan tea (made from tea, yak butter—often rancid—water, and salt). Surprising for first-timers…
Around 10 PM, we leave the ceremony; tomorrow morning, we need to be on the roadside by 7 AM to catch the bus to Kalopani…
This village of Chhairo is very pleasant and welcoming, no tourists, just two motorcyclists who arrived in the evening, one of whom participated in the ceremony and discreetly poured his Tibetan tea outside.
Lodge: "Norsang Tibetan Guesthouse and Restaurant". Total bill for 2 nights, 2 dinners, 2 breakfasts, and drinks = 8000 NPR.
April 3: bus from Chhairo to Kalopani, about 1.5 hours for the 20 km (200 NPR per person). We descend on the right bank of the Kali Gandaki. We find the red and white markings to resume the trek toward Ghasa. We’re in a fragrant pine forest, the Dhaulagiri on one side and the Annapurnas on the other, magnificent, and the path is pleasant and easy. We get a bit lost in this forest, always looking for the markings. Near Lete, two trekkers pass us, and we meet them again a little further on with two very young children, to whom we give the 2 hard-boiled eggs I didn’t eat this morning. They accepted them without hesitation.
We arrive in a village and ask for directions to Ghasa. The young girls point the way. But we come across a forest being logged, trees cut in all directions. We turn back and ask for confirmation. They confirm… But the two young girls catch up with us and clear the way. We have to step over, go around, and cross the felled trees, with no indication at all. Through this pick-up sticks of felled trees, the girls lead us to the top of a stone staircase, indicating that was the path. It’s the only place where we saw rhododendrons in bloom.
We descend the staircase. At the bottom, to the left, there’s a bridge to go toward Choyo, and to the right, a path to Ghasa. We take the right path and join the road. We should normally find the red and white markings, but we don’t… So we continue on the western bank road of the Kali Gandaki.
A little before the village of Misi, we see fumaroles on the opposite bank that seem to come from the ground. We don’t understand. We stopped to eat in the village of Misi (noodle soup = 600 NPR), but it’s hard to communicate with the elderly people running the guesthouse.
We continued on the road, not finding the marked path parallel to the road. Landslides, both on the left and right banks, seem to have taken over the marked routes. It’s a place where the Kali Gandaki gorge narrows, and on the opposite bank, the mountain smokes more and more, and we now hear the crackling of fire. Across from us, the mountain is burning… Our initial plan had us passing on that burning bank right now…
We arrive in Ghasa at 3:30 PM, a 6.5-hour stage but with a 1-hour stop at noon. We’re at the "Florida Guesthouse and Restaurant." From our room, we see the mountain smoking on the other side of the river, and at night, we see the flames. In this village, posters show Himalayan eagles and vultures that seem to be protected species. Indeed, we saw (and heard) 3 eagles circling today.
April 4 – Today, heading to Pairothapla or Kopchepani depending on our feet, accommodation options, and simply our desires.
No more smoke on the mountain this morning. It’s chilly, 7:45 AM, the sky is clear, just a smell of smoke outside.
Price of the lodge = 1000 NPR for the night + 3580 NPR for meals.
We cross Ghasa, which stretches over more than a kilometer. We have a drink at the last guesthouse in the village, and the didi, when she learns our destination, tells us to be careful because the villages we’re going to aren’t safe. Should we distribute our rupees in different pockets? Nah, we kept going.
At the exit of Ghasa, we find the red and white markings and take the suspension bridge to cross the boiling waters of the Kali Gandaki. The passage is impressive because the river is tumultuous. Lots of climbs and even more descents. We’re back on the eastern bank. It’s hot! On the narrow path, we meet a group of buffaloes. Who has the right of way? We decide to stick as close as possible to the rock wall and move forward calmly. The buffaloes look at us, chewing placidly, with no intention of jumping on us. Phew!
After a 5-hour stage (including stops), we arrive in Pairothapla, with hot feet and firm thighs, and decide we won’t go any further. It’s a good thing because there’s a lodge, the most basic so far, but with a great welcome. We have a meal and a short nap. The buffaloes we met on the way belong to this house. They come to drink at the fountain by the path.
Our host, very pleasant, doesn’t know what to do to please us and is very attentive. He wants to chat. He has two children, a 4-year-old girl and a 7-year-old boy. Where do they go to school? Do they go? He tells us that the fires in the mountain are caused by people, but for what reason? We won’t find out, but it’s illegal. From here, we can still see smoke rising in the distance. The wife is a bit less friendly. Corn kernels dry on a woven straw mat on the ground, and the mom sorts them.
From where we are, we overlook the valley and see the road under construction winding along the mountainside on the other bank.
Dinner on the terrace of the house overlooking the path, windbreaker and fleece on: dal bhat chicken for me and chicken curry for my husband: "organic" products, at least local production. There are small vegetable gardens everywhere with all sorts of vegetables.
April 5 – While we’re having breakfast on the terrace of our lodge, 5 porters, straps on their foreheads, heavily loaded, pass by on the path. A few minutes later, a group of 9 people appears. It must be said that since the beginning of our journey, we’ve met very few hikers. Two backpackers in Chhairo, the two hikers near Lete, two female hikers passed us before Pairothapla, a solo female hiker passed us…
The lodge in Pairothapla is called "Bimala Lodge & Thakali Kitchen" – Price for night + 4 meals + 2 breakfasts = 3000 NPR.
The descent toward the Kali Gandaki involves climbs whose steps we didn’t count. Clearly, the landslides on the mountain cause changes to the official ACAP trek marked in red and white, and the marking updates can’t keep up with the pace of these landslides. It’s almost always by chance that we find the markings. Fortunately, we can follow the power line that guides us somewhat.
Drink stop in Kopchepani, the legs are fine, but the feet don’t like being tightly enclosed. A group of trekkers with porters passes on the path. We met buffaloes that we kindly let pass; the path was wide enough, but it was a staircase going up, and we didn’t want to take any risks.
Across, a view of the magnificent Rupse Waterfall on the other bank of the Kali Gandaki, at the bottom, lots of vehicles and people.
Arrival in Gadpar after crossing a rather unwelcoming small village and cultivated gardens between dry stone walls, each better built than the last.
First lodge spotted, first lodge adopted to answer the call of our feet, and a very warm welcome from the owner. Since we hadn’t eaten at noon, we had Tibetan bread/jam. 6-hour stage including 1 hour of stops. Night + dinner + breakfast + drinks = 5060 NPR
April 6 – Today, heading to Narchyang.
For several days, we’ve seen banana trees with their bunches of fruit and even a prickly pear with large fruits ripening.
This stage is quite peaceful and pleasant. We take a suspension bridge to cross a tributary of the Kali Gandaki. While we’re resting for a moment before crossing the bridge, a couple of porters, a man and a woman, arrive and start across the bridge with their wood load in a basket held by a strap on their forehead, making them bend. We set off too… lighter than them.
On the other side of the bridge… a stone staircase, and it climbs steeply. The porter couple didn’t take this staircase; they went right on the path.
At the top of the staircase, we arrive in Narchyang after a 4-hour stage. A magnificent waterfall overlooks the village. We get lost in this fairly large village looking for a lodge. After wandering around for a while, we ask for directions, and an 84-year-old man takes us through the whole village and accompanies us to a very nice lodge run by a woman.
We chat with our hostess, who asks where we’re from and where we’re going. We explain that we want to reach Tatopani the next day and then return to Pokhara. She tells us there are 4x4s going directly to Pokhara and that it would probably be easier than taking a bus that might be full in Tatopani. After a quick consultation, we decide to return to Pokhara the next day by 4x4. She finds us a 4x4 with 2 seats left, departure at 8 AM – 5 hours on the road and 1500 NPR per person. A charming didi who does everything to be pleasant and helpful.
Narchyang community lodge = night + snacks + dinner + breakfast = 3000 NPR.
There you go, our trek ends tomorrow. Many necessary changes and adaptations to our initial trek, but no regrets, it was superb and a great experience that, for my part, I won’t be able to repeat. Always this encounter with the endearing, welcoming, curious, and very kind Nepali people. It was now or never, and we did it!
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In conclusion, 3 full weeks in Nepal is a duration that allows visiting Kathmandu, Patan, and Bhaktapur, enjoying the various sites, and soaking in the atmosphere and urban Nepali life.
The trek, even revised and corrected, allowed us to get close to the impressive Annapurna and Dhaulagiri peaks. One or two acclimatization days might be necessary to get the body in tune with this magical and extraordinary land.
Hi there,
My partner and I are heading to Nepal for 15 days in March—she’s a schoolteacher. We’ll be trekking to Everest Base Camp and then doing the loop via the Gokyo Lakes.
We’d love to set up a fundraiser to donate to a school in Namche, along with visiting the school. It’s something that really matters to us. But it’s been tough to get in touch with a school—any ideas on how to go about this? Thanks!
My partner and I are heading to Nepal for 15 days in March—she’s a schoolteacher. We’ll be trekking to Everest Base Camp and then doing the loop via the Gokyo Lakes.
We’d love to set up a fundraiser to donate to a school in Namche, along with visiting the school. It’s something that really matters to us. But it’s been tough to get in touch with a school—any ideas on how to go about this? Thanks!
Hello my fellow globetrotters, could anyone tell me how to find the French colonial cemetery in Pondicherry? It seems tricky to locate.
Thanks so much for your help! Take care, pace yourselves, and travel far.
Cheers, Régine
Thanks so much for your help! Take care, pace yourselves, and travel far.
Cheers, Régine
I'm looking for a small, not-too-touristy restaurant in Fort Kochi. Do you know one not too far from Jacob Road?
Thanks
Bonjour,
Nous nous apprêtons ma femme et moi pour ce circuit du 27 mars au 8 avril.
J'aimerai savoir si quelqu'un est déjà parti avec l'agence Salaun Holidays? combien de personnes en moyenne par groupe ? combien en liquidités ?
Nous avons des doutes sur les vêtements à prendre.....+ draps et taies ?
Et si vous avez des petits tuyaux pour ne pas être trop ennuyé par les mendiants et démarcheurs.
Vos remarques seront toujours bonnes à prendre.
Merci à l'avance.
Bonjour,
je voudrais faire un voyage au Rajasthan et la vallée du Gange: c'est la première fois que je ferais un voyage lointain et pense le faire avec l'agence BTtours à partir de la Belgique (ou Salaün en France). Quelqu'un a-t-il déjà voyagé avec cette agence et peut-il me donner son avis? Je pensais partir vers le mois de novembre, mais certains me disent que, même là, il ferait relativement froid (8°C) est-ce possible?
D'autre part, quelle est le meilleur moyen pour se procurer de l'argent? Peut-on entrer en Inde avec de l'argent liquide sur soi?
Merci pour les réponses.
bonjour à tous,
Je prépare un voyage en Inde du Nord (Rajasthan, vallée du Gange avec Varanasi (Benares)).
Mon agence de voyage me propose deux TO, Asia avec le circuit "Saris et Saddhus" et Salaun avec le circuit "l'inde du nord et la vallée du Gange". J'ai déjà voyagé au Sri Lanka et en Inde du Sud avec Asia. Les voyages se sont très bien passés.
Je ne connais pas Salaun Holidays. Leur circuit semble plus complet avec une journée de détente (16 jours sur place) . Voyage avec Air France.
Est ce qu'un de membre de ce forum a fait le circuit "l'inde du Nord et la vallée du Gange" avec Salaun? Puis je avoir votre avis sur le TO Salaun Holidays?
Merci beaucoup
Je prépare un voyage en Inde du Nord (Rajasthan, vallée du Gange avec Varanasi (Benares)).
Mon agence de voyage me propose deux TO, Asia avec le circuit "Saris et Saddhus" et Salaun avec le circuit "l'inde du nord et la vallée du Gange". J'ai déjà voyagé au Sri Lanka et en Inde du Sud avec Asia. Les voyages se sont très bien passés.
Je ne connais pas Salaun Holidays. Leur circuit semble plus complet avec une journée de détente (16 jours sur place) . Voyage avec Air France.
Est ce qu'un de membre de ce forum a fait le circuit "l'inde du Nord et la vallée du Gange" avec Salaun? Puis je avoir votre avis sur le TO Salaun Holidays?
Merci beaucoup
Hi there.
We’re heading to India at the end of December for a month.
I planned an itinerary: Delhi, Nawalgarh, Sikar, Jodhpur, Udaipur, Chittaurgarh, Bundi, Jaipur, Bharatpur, and back to Delhi.
Our driver told us it’s not possible because there are no roads.
He’s suggesting the usual tourist circuit, which we don’t want to do.
What do you think of my route?
Any tips?
Thanks, community!
Hello,
We’re a group of 4 looking for a driver and car for our stay in Kerala from November 22 to December 12, 2025. We’ve already planned an itinerary starting from Cochin.
We’ve traveled with a driver before during our trip to Rajasthan.
Thanks for your replies!
Yves
Hi everyone,
we’re heading to Tamil Nadu and Kerala at the start of the year for 30 days. We did Rajasthan 12 years ago, but things change fast.
I’ve read that to get a SIM card, you have to buy it at a shop and then go to the operator to get a number; you’d also need an Indian mobile number. Has anyone here had recent experience with this?
For buses and trains, do you need to book them well in advance?
Any tips are welcome—thanks in advance!
Happy holidays to all,
Philippe
Hi everyone! 🙂
My partner (who’s a teacher—hence the summer holidays) and I are heading to Eastern India for 23 days in July. This is my 5th trip to India, but her first.
We fly into Delhi on July 7th and leave from Delhi on the 23rd (since our flight to Kolkata arrived late at night, and I wanted to show Agra and Varanasi to my partner).
We love getting off the beaten track and meeting people, so we’ll mostly be taking the train.
Here’s what we’re planning:
- **DELHI**: 1 night on the way (short because the plane is supposed to land at 01:55), then we take the train at 13:00 - **GWALIOR**: 3 nights, including a day trip to **AGRA** by train to see the Taj Mahal and the Red Fort (I find Agra too touristy to stay overnight). Otherwise, in Gwalior, the Fort, the temples, the Man Mandir Palace, and the Jai Vilas Palace if we have time. - **ORCHHA**: 2 nights... *maybe skip this to spend more time in VARANASI?* - **VARANASI**: overnight train + 3 nights, the Ghats, temples... maybe a day trip to **SARNATH**. - **KOLKATA**: overnight train + 3 nights. Maybe a countryside excursion to the ashram in Channa. *- Here we’re hesitating over 2 nights: either 2 nights in **SHANTINIKETAN** with a visit to **CHANNA** on the way, or a 2-day excursion to the **SUNDARBAN** nature park. But is it worth it in July during the monsoon?* - **PURI**: overnight train + 4 nights. *We’re planning to do everything from Puri, as it seems nicer than staying in BHUBANESWAR. What do you think?* Visit **KONARK** and **CHILIKA LAKE**. *Is it worth visiting Chilika Lake this season? Another question: can you swim in Puri, or is it too dangerous (waves)?* - Train to **BHUBANESWAR**, then a flight from BHUBANESWAR to **DELHI**, - 2 nights in **DELHI**, visiting Jama Masjid, and *either Humayun’s Tomb, Safdarjung’s Tomb, or Qutb Minar.*
Back to Paris. Total: 23 nights.
What do you think of these choices? What about the options we’re still unsure about *(in bold/italics)*? Thanks so much! 🙂
We fly into Delhi on July 7th and leave from Delhi on the 23rd (since our flight to Kolkata arrived late at night, and I wanted to show Agra and Varanasi to my partner).
We love getting off the beaten track and meeting people, so we’ll mostly be taking the train.
Here’s what we’re planning:
- **DELHI**: 1 night on the way (short because the plane is supposed to land at 01:55), then we take the train at 13:00 - **GWALIOR**: 3 nights, including a day trip to **AGRA** by train to see the Taj Mahal and the Red Fort (I find Agra too touristy to stay overnight). Otherwise, in Gwalior, the Fort, the temples, the Man Mandir Palace, and the Jai Vilas Palace if we have time. - **ORCHHA**: 2 nights... *maybe skip this to spend more time in VARANASI?* - **VARANASI**: overnight train + 3 nights, the Ghats, temples... maybe a day trip to **SARNATH**. - **KOLKATA**: overnight train + 3 nights. Maybe a countryside excursion to the ashram in Channa. *- Here we’re hesitating over 2 nights: either 2 nights in **SHANTINIKETAN** with a visit to **CHANNA** on the way, or a 2-day excursion to the **SUNDARBAN** nature park. But is it worth it in July during the monsoon?* - **PURI**: overnight train + 4 nights. *We’re planning to do everything from Puri, as it seems nicer than staying in BHUBANESWAR. What do you think?* Visit **KONARK** and **CHILIKA LAKE**. *Is it worth visiting Chilika Lake this season? Another question: can you swim in Puri, or is it too dangerous (waves)?* - Train to **BHUBANESWAR**, then a flight from BHUBANESWAR to **DELHI**, - 2 nights in **DELHI**, visiting Jama Masjid, and *either Humayun’s Tomb, Safdarjung’s Tomb, or Qutb Minar.*
Back to Paris. Total: 23 nights.
What do you think of these choices? What about the options we’re still unsure about *(in bold/italics)*? Thanks so much! 🙂
hi everyone, I’m putting together an itinerary for Sri Lanka in September 2026, so I’m focusing on the east side of the island because of the monsoon on the west coast:
Day 1 Kandy: botanical garden, fruit and vegetable market, traditional dance show
Day 2 Kandy-Ella train
Day 3-4 Kumana NP or Lunugamvehera Block 6+5
Day 5-6 Komari / Pottuvi lagoon safari
Day 7 head up the east coast along the beaches to reach Wasgamuwa NP
Day 8 Wasgamuwa NP early morning safari, then Polonnaruwa (temple and palace)
Day 9-10 Sigiriya Lion’s Rock and Dambulla, cave temple
Day 11-12 Wilpattu NP early morning safari, then late afternoon
Day 13-14 Kalpitiya, snorkeling and chilling
Day 15 return to Colombo
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on whether this route is doable—we’ll be traveling with a driver-guide.
Feel free to mention any great tips or good homestay experiences you’ve had, since we prefer those.
Hi everyone, Kerala experts (especially Marien!)
In January, I’m planning another trip to Kerala. We’ll arrive in Kochi and travel up the coast by train to Gokarna.
So I’m reaching out to ask if it’s worth stopping for a few days in any of the following spots (not all, of course—just one or two that are really worth it...). From what I’ve seen, few Western tourists stop along this coast, given how little info there is about it:
Mahe, Thalassery, Taliparamba, Nileshwar, Bekal, Kasaragod
I’m not mentioning Kannur because we’ve already been there, specifically Thottada Beach, and we’re familiar with the southern destinations (Trivandrum, Kovalam, etc.).
Thanks for your replies!
Anne
Hello,
My husband and I usually spend a month in January/February in southern India. We end our trip in Gokarna and fly back from Vasco de Gama Airport in Dabolim. So, it might make sense to spend a few days in a nice, quiet spot in southern Goa. Do you have any recommendations?
Thanks
Hi there,
I’d like to head to Upper Dolpo in September/October 2026.
Does anyone know the current state of the roads in the area?
Specifically for getting from Saldang to Dho Tarap.
Also, what do you think about the weather between September 20th and October 20th?
Any tips would be much appreciated.
I’ve already checked out the info on Martinpierre’s site—it’s super detailed about the region, but the details are a bit outdated.
Thanks in advance for your advice.
Thierry




