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Kob27g

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2013-02-04

Cette question, on nous l’a posé à maintes et maintes reprises tout au long de notre périple dans cette Egypte paraissant si « dangereuse » à travers nos médias. Nous ? Un couple de routards ayant une petite expérience (Inde, Chine, New-York) sillonnant ce superbe pays du 16 janvier 2013 au 2 février.

Les égyptiens ne comprennent pas pourquoi les français ne viennent plus en Égypte. Ce pays a besoin du tourisme pour vivre et depuis 2 ans, ai confronté à une grave baisse de ce secteur.Planning J1 : vol vers Hurghada J2 : liaison Hurghada – Louxor en bus + visite du temple de Louxor J3 : excursion rive ouest Louxor (vallée des rois, temple d’Hatchespout, Temple d’Abu et Colosses de Memnon) J4 : temple de Karnak + musée de Louxor + excursion à l’île des Bananes J5 : excursion rive ouest Louxor (village des artisans, vallée des nobles, Ramesseum et temple de Séti 1er). J6 : liaison Louxor – Assouan en taxi avec visite de temple d’Edfou et de celui de Kom Ombo. J7 : excursion Abu Simbel J8 : Temple de Philae, de Kalabsha, Grand Barrage et obélisque inachevée. + Visite de l’île des fleurs. J9 : Ile éléphantine + repos + train de nuit vers Le Caire J10 : arrivé au Caire + vieux Caire. J11 : excursion Gizeh, Saqqara et Dahchur. J12 : musée du Caire + balade dans la ville J13 : citadelle + Khan El Khalili J14 : liaison Le Caire – Hurghada en bus. J15 : repos + vol retour.Hotels Hurghada

Hôtel Golden Rose (1 nuit, recommande Routard) Reserve depuis Venere.com a 28€ la double. Hôtel calme, chambre plutôt grande et correcte dans un quartier un peu glauque (immeubles en ruines) mais non loin du centre de Sekkala. Ils nous ont fait payer 316 Le sans trop s’avoir pourquoi, ce qui me reste en travers de la gorge. Petit déjeuner fourni dans une box car nous sommes partis tôt le lendemain. Propose des repas de type buffet à 25Le, tout a fait correct.

Sea View Hôtel (1 nuit, recommandé Routard) Réservé depuis booking.com à 196Le la double. Hôtel correct situé sur la Corniche à Dahar (quartier plus sympa que Sekkala). Les chambres sur la rue sont assez bruyantes. Petit déjeuner (inclus) copieux et bon. Personnel aimable même si le gérant cherche un peu lourdement à nous refourguer ses excursions.

Louxor

Hôtel Nefertiti (4 nuits, recommande Routard) Reserve depuis Booking.com 200Le la double, grande chambre, propre. Hotel bien situé à Louxor, tout proche du temple. Quartier assez bruyant. Personnel très pro et accueillant. Dès son arrivé, le visiteur est chouchouté. Bon buffet de petit dej (compris). Propose un service de restauration (voir avis plus bas) et des excursions (voir avis plus bas aussi)

Assouan

Hotel Keylany (3 nuits, recommande Routard) Reserve depuis Booking.com 225 Le la double. Chambre assez petite et propre. SDB minuscule. Assis aux toilettes, on a la tête dans le lavabo. Plutôt bien situe, proche du souk et du Nil, a 1 bon km de la gare. Quartier bruyant. Petit déjeuner (inclus) très bon. Pas de restauration sur place. Personnel très serviable et propose des excursions (voir plus bas).

Le Caire

Hotel Bedouin (4 nuits, recommande Routard) Reserve depuis hostelworld.com 120Le la double. Chambre de taille correcte mais un peu vieillotte. SDB correcte mais la cloison entre la SDB et la chambre ne monte pas jusqu'au plafond. Bien situé dans le centre, proche de la place Tahrir et du métro et dans un endroit peu bruyant. Petit déjeuner (inclus) se limitant a 3 bouts de pain, de la confiture et un the (il ne faut pas avoir faim). Personnel accueillant. Ce n'est pas vraiment un hôtel, il s'agit plus d'une maison d'hôte. On peut vivre avec la famille, leur demander un thé (gratuit). Comme me dit souvent le jeune a la réception : "feel at home" Pas de restauration sur place et propose des excursions (voir plus bas). Transports, excursions et visites. Préambule : je ne suis pas un archéologue, je donne juste mon avis de touriste moyen (le beauf de base en gros). Certains ne seront pas d’accord avec mes avis.

Liaison Hurghada --> Louxor. Ne voulant pas m'aventurer le premier a trouver un bus pour Louxor. J'ai fait appel à une agence "Memphis Tour" par email depuis la France. Ils parlent français et m'ont propose 2 formules : 105€ pour 2 : taxi depuis notre hôtel d'Hurghada vers notre hôtel de Louxor. 49€ pour 2 : taxi depuis notre hôtel d'Hurghada vers la station de bus, tickets de bus sur la compagnie Upper Egypt Bus, puis taxi de la gare routière de Louxor vers notre hôtel. Paiement par avance sur internet. Nous optons pour la 2eme formule. A 7hm une voiture nous amène a la gare routière, notre guide nous paye un the et une bouteille d'eau chacun. Le bus part a 8h30 et arrive vers 13h a Louxor (pause pipi a mi trajet). Bus nickel. A Louxor, notre taxi est la. Satisfait de la formule.

Louxor excursion rive ouest 1 : les incontournables. L'hôtel Nefertiti propose 2 formules pour une visite comprenant la vallée des rois, le temple d'Hatchespout, le temple d'Abu et les colosses de Memnon. Départ 8h, retour 14h. 190 Le : voiture pour 2 325 Le : voiture pour 2 + guide francophone. On teste la 2eme formule. Voiture nickel, bon chauffeur et rien a redire sur la guide très intéressante et parlant un très bon français. Bon service. Vallée des rois (ticket 90Le) : visite des tombes de Ramsès 3 et 4 et celle de Meremptah. Cette dernière est une bonne alternative car différente des 2 jolies et populaires tombes de Ramsès. Un incontournable. Temple d' Hatchespout (30 Le) : superbe temple taille dans la pierre, un incontournable aussi. Temple d'Abu (30Le) : très joli temple aussi a visiter. Colosses de Memnon (gratuit) : ca a le mérite d'être gratuit, on peut s'y arrêter 5 minutes en passant devant.

Temple de Louxor (50Le) : Beau temple, plutôt désert. Nous l’avons visité pendant l’après-midi pour bénéficier à la fois du temple le jour mais aussi une fois la nuit tombée. A faire avant celui de Karnak car moins majestueux.

Temple de Karnak (65Le) : un incontournable et logiquement beaucoup plus fréquenté que celui de Louxor, car plus grand et majestueux. Bon plan, contre une petit pièce, les gardiens peuvent vous faire accéder aux gradins du son et lumière : de là, un jolie point de vue. Compter 2h de visite.

Musée de Louxor (80Le) : jolie collection mais entrée un peu (voir beaucoup) trop chère… On en fait vite le tour (1h).

Excursion à l’île des bananes (10Le). Pour y accéder, il faut négocier un bateau. On a choisi un bateau à moteur à 120Le pour 2, entrée à l’île incluse. L’hôtel Nefertiti propose le même type d’excursion mais en felouque à 190Le. Ballade sympa de 2h avec un arrêt sur la fameuse île pour un petit tour dans une bananeraie et dégustation de quelques bananes en terrasse le long du Nil. Reposant. A faire en fin d’après-midi pour le coucher de soleil.

Louxor excursion rive ouest 2. L'hotel Nefertiti propose 2 formules pour une visite comprenant la vallée des nobles, le village des artisans, le temple de Ramesseum et le temple de Séti 1er. Départ 8h30, retour 13. 190 Le : voiture pour 2 300 Le : voiture pour 2 + guide francophone. Etant contents le 1ere excursion rive ouest, on opte pour la 2eme formule. C’est donc sans surprise que nous avons été satisfaits de cette excursion. Vallée des nobles (30Le) : choix des tombes de Rekhimé et de Sennefer. Jolies tombes dans un lieu boudé par les touristes. Mérite le détour. Village des artisans (30Le) : une, un temple et les ruines du village. Intéressant pour comprendre la vie des constructeurs de tombes. Temple de Ramesseum (30Le) et de Séti 1er (30Le) : eux aussi boudés par les touristes, ils apportent une petite touche différente aux autres lieux, mais à faire en 2nd temps (pas incontournables).

Liaison Louxor – Assouan Par l’hôtel Néfertiti : 550Le la voiture avec arrêt à Edfou et Kom Ombo, départ 8h, arrivé 14h30. Même chauffeur que pour les 2 excursions rive ouest donc nickel. Temple d’Edfou (50Le) : temple sympa, mieux conservé que ceux de Louxor car plus récent. Pas trop de monde. Temple de Kom Ombo (30Le) : moins beau que celui d’Edfou, il est du même style. Superbe décor au bord du Nil.

Excursion Abu Simbel Par l’hôtel Keylany : 70 Le/personne pour l’aller-retour en minibus (départ 3h15, retour 13h30). 95 Le/personne pour l’aller-retour en minibus + crochet par le temple de Philae ensuite (départ 3h15, retour 15h30). Nous prenons la 1ere formule. Réveil par l’hôtel à 2h45. Départ à 3h15 en minibus qui fait le tour d’Assouan pour récupérer quelques autres routards. Départ du convoi de bus, minibus et taxis à 4h. Arrivé sur site à 7h15. Départ du site à 10h, retour sur Assouan vers 13h30. Voilà pour les détails pratiques. Abu Simbel (95Le) : site avec 2 temples (un grand et un plus petit). Majestueux au lever du soleil, mais c’est bondé car tout le monde arrive avec le même convoi. Un conseil, à peine arrivé, foncez à la billeterie puis vers le site pendant que les groupes d’entassent aux toilettes. Grâce à ça, vous aurez quelques précieuses minutes pour admirer tranquillement le site et faire des photos sans allemand en sandales et chaussettes dans le champ (oh la la, le cliché !!). On revient assez fatigués donc contents de n’avoir pas enchainé sur Philae.

Excursion temples de Philae, Kalabsha, Grand Barrage et Obélisque inachevée. Par l’hôtel Keylany : 120Le la voiture (départ 8h, retour 13h). Déjà le chauffeur arrive en retard, de plus il conduit un peu violemment et n’est pas vraiment amical. Enfin, prestation correcte au niveau du service et du prix. Temple de Philae (50Le) : à peine le ticket en main, il faut négocier un bateau pour accéder sur l’île du temple. C’est galère car beaucoup de touristes, et ces « bateliers » ont le monopole !! Bateau négocié à 80Le avec 1h30 d’attente pour la visite (1h suffit). Site très touristique, temple plus récent que ceux de Louxor et bien conservé. A visiter. Grand Barrage (30Le) : arnaque totale. La voiture traverse la moitié du barrage, nous arrête dans une espèce d’aire de stationnement avec 4 pauvres panneaux explicatifs… Et le pire, c’est qu’il y a du monde. A éviter (à moins d’être un inconditionnel des barrages). Temple de Kalabsha (Gratuit ?) : coup de cœur. Bon au départ ça commence mal, il faut négocier un bateau pour accéder sur l’île de temple. Il y a aucun touriste et peu de bateau. Négociation serrée, on a même failli faire demi-tour. Bateau à 40Le avec 1h d’attente pour la visite. Joli temple (plus petit que celui de Philae) mais totalement snobé par les groupes de touristes. Sur place, les gardiens piquaient un roupillon dans la cour du temple, nous n’avons donc pas payé de droit d’entrée. Plusieurs vestiges sur cette petite île, une jolie vue sur le lac Nasser (et son immonde barrage). Obélisque inachevée (30Le) : visite rapide mais intéressante pour comprendre comment les égyptiens faisaient pour récupérer leurs énormes blocs de pierre. Visite idéale pour clore une excursion.

Excursion à l’île des fleurs (10Le) : Accès par un bateau à moteur, négocié à 50Le, temps d’attente d’1h pour la visite. L’île est assez jolie mais toute petite. Jolie vue sur la rive ouest. Bref ça occupe mais « ça ne casse pas des briques ».

Excursion à l’île Eléphantine (gratuit) : prendre la navette publique sur la corniche (à côté du KFC), 1Le/personne la traversée. Ile étonnante, l’espace de la visite, on se croit dans un autre pays et ce, en plein Assouan. Tout est plus zen. Escale obligatoire chez Baba Doom (voir ci-dessous dans restos et bars). Dommage qu’il y ait cette affreuse tour.

Liaison Assouan – Le Caire Train de nuit : 60$/personne pour une couchette double avec diner et petit déjeuner. Réservé sur internet. Les couchettes sont vraiment pratiques et fonctionnelles. C’est propre, c’est calme. Le dîner était correct (on a même eu une version végétarienne). Le personnel est au petit soin. Points négatifs : le petit déjeuner vraiment pas fameux et les 2h de retard au Caire (15h30 de trajet au lieu de 13h30).

Quartier du vieux Caire : le quartier Coopte du Caire. Zone intéressant, jolies églises et synagogue, tout est gratuit (sauf le musée coopte). Visite assez rapide si on ne visite pas le musée. Quartier accessible facilement en métro.

Excursion pyramides de Gizeh, Dahchour et Saqqara. L’hôtel Bedouin propose 2 formules (départ 8h, retour 16h) : 250 Le : voiture pour 2. 370 Le : voiture pour 2 + guide francophone. L’expérience positive de Louxor nous pousse à prendre la 2eme formule. Malheureusement, cette fois, on a un peu déchant. Guide tout mou, récitant son discours sans envie (autant lire le retour), répondant à côté et ne s’adressant pas à ma copine (il ne lui a même pas demandé son prénom). Bref, il aurait presque pu gâcher de si belles visites. Chauffeur pas top non plus, conduite violente. L’hôtel nous a dit qu’il tiendrait compte de notre avis sur le guide donc… Plateau de Gizeh (60Le + 5Le de péage pour la voiture + 30Le pour accéder dans la pyramide de Khephren) : un site majeur et magique, moins bondé que je m’y attendais. Un incontournable. L’entrée pour Kheops à 100Le nous paraissait excessive (surtout que contrairement aux tombes de Louxor, l’intérieur d’une pyramide n’a rien d’extraordinaire). Malgré tout, pour combler notre curiosité et faire un peu de sport, on opte pour la visite de Khephren totalement snobée. Une petite déception pour le sphinx. Il est situé en contrebas du plateau, il parait donc petit à côté des 3 mastodontes. Dahchour (30Le) : coup de cœur. Une très belle pyramide « rouge » ressemblant à celles de Gizeh dans une zone désertique sans touriste. L’intérieur est plus sympa et plus sportif que celle de Khephren. Saqqara (60Le + 2 Le de péage pour la voiture) : la fameuse pyramide à degrés, malheureusement avec un gros échafaudage sur un flanc (en travaux pour 25 ans il semblerait). Site intéressant car c’est la 1ere pyramide. Sur le site, le musée Imothep (ticket inclus dans le prix de l’entrée) mérite qu’on s’y attarde un peu.

Musée du Caire (60Le) : un incontournable. L’intérieur est vieillot, c’est le bazar digne d’un souk, mais il y a tellement d’objets merveilleux. Nous n’avons pas visité la galerie des momies (ticket supplémentaire de 100Le) et avons quand même passé 3h.

La Citadelle (50Le) : dominant un quartier peu intéressant du point de vue touristique, on a galéré à trouver l’entrée. Site sympa, superbe vue sur le Caire, très jolies mosquées. A l’intérieur aussi le musée militaire et celui de la police… Mérite la visite.

Quartier de Khan El Khalili : le souk du Caire. Plein de marchands, de mosquées, une atmosphère très différente du reste de la ville. Boire un thé attablé à l’un des nombreux bars place Hussein est une expérience sympa pour observer la vie de cette place.

Transfert le Caire – Hurghada : Bus Upper Egypt (65Le) depuis la gare routière Turgoman, sorte de gigantesque centre commercial vide servant de point de départ de nombreux bus. Départ à 8h, arrivé à 15h. Bus nickel. Se mettre du côté gauche (dans le sens de la marche) du bus pour profiter de la vue sur la mer rouge pendant une bonne partie du trajet. 2 arrêts en cours de route. Prévoir un peu de bouffe car les offres culinaires des arrêts ne sont pas extraordinaires (hormis pour les amateurs de biscuits, chips ou barres chocolatées). Restaurants Préambule : je suis végétarien, donc je ne vais pas vous faire partager les bonnes adresses pour la viande. Ma copine mange un peu de viande, mais à tendance à limiter sa consommation à l’étranger. Manger végétarien est très bon marché en Egypte et bien plus facile qu’en France. Les prix donnés sont pour l’addition globale pour nous 2 (hors mention précisée)

Hurghada

Restaurant de l’hôtel Golden Rose : buffet pour 25Le/personne. Bouffe correct, choix limité mais pour le prix, rien à dire.

El Sawaky Camp (sur la corniche à Dahar, à ne pas confondre avec son voisin El Sawaky Beach, non testé par nos soins). - Tahiné + pain, salade orientale, pâtes à la napolitaine, crêpe au miel (+ une crêpe au fromage offerte) : 40 Le. Joli cadre en bord de mer. En cette basse saison, nous serons les 2 seuls couverts du dîner. Repas correct, prix ok. Lieu sympa aussi pour siroter un thé en journée avec vue sur la mer.

El Sunny (souk touristique à Dahar, recommandé Routard). - 6 sandwiches fallafels + pickles : 15Le. Une cantine égyptienne que j’affectionne. Y aller pour déguster des fallafels, du foul, du tahiné au baba ghanouj à prix mini. Par contre, je ne risquerai pas à la viande (personne n’en commande). Bonne adresse pour manger typiquement égyptien.

Louxor

El Sahaby Lane (restaurant de l’hôtel Nefertiti, recommandé routard). - Salade césar, tajine végétarien, riz : 59Le. Plats bien présentés et bon mais un peu chers. Nous n’y avons mangé qu’une seule fois.

Snack Time (le long du temple de Louxor, à côté du macdo). - Calzone fromage/champignon, pizza Margherita : 34Le. - Veggie burger, wrap fallafels, frites, salade grecque : 44Le. - Sandwich végé, coleslaw, panini végé, frites : 42Le. Un fast food à l’égyptienne. On commande au comptoir et on nous sert à table (parfois un peu long). Bons tarifs et plats. Seules les pizzas nous ont déçues car miniscules. Un bon plan.

Abu Ashraf (rue entre le temple de Louxor et la gare, recommandé Routard). - Kochery, pain, assiette kebab : 55Le. Cantine égyptienne proposant un bon et copieux Kochery. Le kebab à quelque peu alourdi la note (et j’ai l’impression qu’on a eu le droit à un tarif « touriste »).

El Zameek ? (sharia Mostafa Kamel) - 2 kochery : 20Le. - 2 sandwichs fallafels, pain et houmous : 15Le. Je me souviens plus vraiment du nom du resto (une grande façade rouge sur 2 étages), il est situé dans une rue parallèle à celle de l’hôtel Nefertiti, et dans une rue perpendiculaire du souk (à 2 pas du souk). Autre cantine égyptienne, notre préférée à Louxor. Bon, copieux et pas cher. En plus, trouvé par nos soins =)

Omar garden : (en plein souk) - 2 soupes de nouilles, 2 rations de riz, légumes en sauce, gâteau de semoule : 35Le. Petit jardin en plein souk. Plein de petits plats à 5Le. C’est correct mais pas extra.

Assouan

Al Sayeda Nafessa (petit rue perpendiculaire au souk, recommandé routard) - 2 menu kochery (salade, sauce, soupe nouille, riz, légume en sauce et kochery : 27Le. Cantine égyptienne. Trop copieux, surtout pour un dîner. Le service est très long (on a la légère impression que les égyptiens sont servis avant nous). Idéal si on veut se remplir le ventre pour pas cher.

Biti (à côté de la gare, recommandé routard) - 2 fétirs : 76Le Pizzeria à l’égyptienne, proposant soit fétirs soit pizzas classiques qu’on agrémente des ingrédients qu’on souhaite. L’impression est mitigée, c’est plutôt fade, surtout pour de la cuisine égyptienne (on aurait peut-être dû mettre le ketchup servi avec nos fétirs…) Et, en plus, c’est cher. Par contre, ça cale. Mais ça reste une déception.

Emy (Corniche, près du Keylany hôtel) : - Riz, grosse salade de fruits, légumes en sauce, soupe de lentille, baba ghanouj, pain : 40Le Beaucoup de petits plats pas chers (entre 5 et 8 Le), jolie vue sur le Nil. Seul bémol, le serveur ne comprend pas l’anglais et ne sachant pas vraiment rajouter les 20% (taxe + service). Enfin, la patronne est intervenue et nous a donné raison. Bonne petite adresse malgré tout. En plus, pour les amateurs, ils servent de la bière.

El Madina (Souk, proche de la gare, recommandé routard). - 2 menus (pain, tahiné, crudités, riz, haricots blancs en sauce tomate) : 50Le. Service rapide, serveurs super sympas. C’est copieux et bon. Bon plan pour le déjeuner.

Mona Lisa (Corniche, près du Keylany, à côté de Emy). - Soupe de légumes, tahiné, sauce concombre, salade grecque, pain et pâtisseries orientales : 46Le. Serveurs ne comprenant pas l’anglais dans service un peu cahotique (il n’avait pas pris notre commande dessert, qui en plus n’était pas bon et assez cher). Pour le reste, rien à redire.

Kochary El Safwan (près de la gare et du souk, recommandé Routard). - 2 kochery large : 12Le Carte ultra simple, choix entre kochery small, medium, large et x-large. C’est bon, service ultra rapide. Bon plat pour les amateurs de ce plat.

Macdo (Corinche). - 2 sundaes : 17Le Pas amateur de ce genre de fast-food, mais il profite d’une superbe vue sur le Nil et la rive ouest. Terrasse sympa, après niveau bouffe… Pour les amateurs, menu entre 20 et 30 Le, mais pas de végéburger.

Baba Doom (île éléphantine, recommandé Routard). - 2 thés : 10Le. Étape incontournable sur cette île. Vue imprenable sur la rive ouest du Nil et ses dunes. État d'esprit complétement décalé. Comme nous a dit un touriste sexagénaire en arrivant : "it's the best place on earth". Le patron est venu boire le thé avec nous. Il a de nombreuses anecdotes à raconter, on ne voit pas le temps passé. On devient zen. Une étape reposante à Assouan.

Le Caire

GAD (recommandé Routard), multiples adresses (on en a repéré 4). Le plus grand et notre préféré se trouve « sharia 26th July ». - Pizza Margherita, baba ghanouj, pain, légumes farcis, riz : 39Le - Kebab, frites, soupe de légumes, riz basmati aux légumes, salade de fruits : 49Le - Kebab, cocktail de fruit, soupe de légumes, salade mixte (betterave, coleslaw, crudités et houmous), pain : 47Le - Pizza Margherita, baba ghanouj, fallafels, pain, pâtes napolitaines : 43Le - Pickles, riz, soupe de tomate, salade de fruits, soupe de légumes, légumes farcis : 47Le Notre coup de cœur. Une carte impressionnante, de l’oriental (fétir, fallafels, mezze, kebab, kofta), de l’occidental (pizza, burger, sandwich, viande, poisson). Bref pour tous les gouts à prix mini. En plus, on en trouve de partout.

Le reste de nos repas au Caire ont été pris « sur le pouce » (kochery, foul, fallafels) dans de petites « cantines ».

Ericetstella Veteran ·2013-02-04

Merci pour le retour , j'ai retenu 2 choses, les "allemands et short et chaussettes" en quoi sont ils gênants, eu regard du au look de certains français, on n'a rien à leur envier ! Les réferénces du "routard " pour moi n'en sont pas, j'ai plus tendance à m'en méfier 😕

ericetstella

KO Kob27g ·2013-02-04

Merci pour le retour , j'ai retenu 2 choses, les "allemands et short et chaussettes" en quoi sont ils gênants, eu regard du au look de certains français, on n'a rien à leur envier !

C'était juste une petite note d'humour, pas vraiment de très bon goût, je te l'accorde. Mais vu qu'il n'y avait pas de français, je n'ai pas pu comparer.

Jackfack Globetrotter ·2013-02-04

Merci pour ce retour qui me rappelle plein de souvenirs. J'étais en Égypte en avril 2011, juste "après". Les souks étaient ultra-calmes, les sites ultra-vides. Parfait en effet pour faire des photos sans groupe (je me suis retrouvé seul sur le site d'Abu Simbel.................). J'y étais, donc, après la chute de Moubarak, c'était une période assez étrange puisqu'il n'y avait plus vraiment de chef d'Etat, mais c'était une période d'espoir où j'avais senti les Égyptiens très confiants dans l'avenir. Donc, le touriste se disait que ça n'allait pas dégénérer.

Aujourd'hui, le climat est différent, on a l'impression de se retrouver juste avant le printemps égyptien. Du coup, beaucoup de potentiels visiteurs doivent se dire que ça risque de re-pêter... 😕

Malheureusement, en effet, la baisse du tourisme, par l'appauvrissement général du pays, fait le jeu des frères musulmans. 🤪

"Voyager, c'est bien utile, ça fait travailler l'imagination. Tout le reste n'est que déceptions et fatigues." Céline mes photos de voyage : http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fabrice-Bloch-photographe/232403640142664

Madikéra Globetrotter ·2013-02-04

Bonjour,

Nous y étions en août 2011 et il y avait également peu de monde. La période semblait plus calme, vue d'ailleurs, que maintenant. Quand on choisit une destination "voyage/vacances" on peut avoir tendance à éliminer les pays semblant (pas forcément étant) instables...

CH Christinecar ·2013-02-04

Bonjour, Je souhaite partir en Egypte en Octobre avec Kuoni mais tout mon entourage me le déconseille. Pouvez-vous me donner votre opinion. Merci d'avance. Christine

KO Kob27g ·2013-02-04

Difficile de connaitre la situation d'ici octobre.

Mais une chose est sûre, la mentalité dans la zone Louxor-Assouan est très différente qu'au nord. Assouan et surtout Louxor vivent presque exclusivement du tourisme et les autochtones se sentent vraiment éloignés de la situation politique du nord.

Les médias français exagèrent la situation. J'ai passé 4 jours au Caire la semaine passée et à aucune moment je me suis senti en danger. Bien sûr, je me suis pas baladé place Tahrir avec des pancartes pro Frères Mulsumans (ou même anti), je ne suis pas allé devant le palais présidentiel (je ne vais pas me balader devant l’Élysée non plus).

Mon hôtel était à 500m de la fameuse place, les gens vivaient normalement, les terrasses des cafés pour égyptiens étaient bondées, ça fumait la chicha à tout va 😛

Mon entourage s'inquiétait un peu avec toutes ces infos... Mais j'étais en Égypte, pas en Syrie !!

De plus avec une agence, aucun risque. Bref, n'hésite pas et fonce 😉

Jackfack Globetrotter ·2013-02-04

Je pense que s'il y a des risques, Kuoni annulera le séjour. Ils ne sont pas fous...

CR Crazyhorse Regular ·2013-02-04

🙂j'ai fait tout ça il y a 10ans, très beau voyage sur le site des pays déconseillés par la France figure l'Egypte, ceci explique cela, j'étais 1 semaine à Louxor 1 semaine à Assouan sur 1 ile dans le Nil Hotel Isis, beaucoup vont en Egypte sur Hurgadha la plage et ne visite pas😎

Anjoyplanet Regular ·2013-02-04

SUPERBE REVIEW ;-))) Merci beaucoup !

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Skyfarer Regular ·2013-02-04

Merci beaucoup pour ce compte-rendu très détaillé!

Je dois avouer....J'avais prévu un séjour au Caire pour le mois de mars de cette année, mais après les supplications de ma famille ( j'exagère même pas) je me suis résignée à choisir une autre destination. C'est vrai que ce qu'on lit dans les journaux/voit à la télé n'est pas très encourageant, mais je pense que si je voyageais seule, je serais partie quand même.

J'ai voyagé avec Jules Verne et Saint-Saint-Exupéry, mais maintenant j'aimerais voyager avec moi-même.

Brigitte42 Globetrotter ·2013-02-04

Bonjour , Voici un avis qui n'engage que moi !

D'abord, d'ici octobre , qui peut dire ce qui va arriver , en Egypte ou ailleurs ?

Si les T O comme Kuoni ( et tous les autres : en Belgique , Neckermann , ...) estiment qu'à un moment , il y a danger , ils ne vous enverront pas au casse-pipes et seront trop prudents , plutôt que pas assez . Nous avons eu le cas en mars 2011 : tous les vols charter ont été supprimés vers l'Egypte, pendant 2 mois, bien que, dans la Haute Vallée du Nil, il ne se passe rien ; les T O n'ont pas envie de mettre en oeuvre de grands moyens et de dépenser des fortunes pour devoir vous rapatrier . Nous avons été remboursé dans la semaine du montant déboursé .

Quant à votre entourage : écoutez-les d'une oreille et vérifiez plutôt par vous - mêmes , sur les forum et en écoutant des personnes qui en reviennent ou y vivent .

L'an passé , nous avons , en mars , organisé un voyage pour nous 2 et 4 amis qui ne connaissaient pas ce pays, en individuels : de manière assez proche de l'Egypte actuelle , en itinérant et pas en hôtel club . Leur entourage, qui n'avait jamais mis les pieds en Egypte , leur déconseillait vivement de faire cela et les ont traité de fous ; il y avait, je crois, une part de jalousie et de sensationnalisme dans tout cela : se faire l'écho de dangers ( réels ou non ) pour gâcher les projets des autres, c'est humain ... Nos amis sont rentrés plus qu'enchantés et se disaient qu'on leur avait raconté beaucoup de bêtises ...

Donc, sans verser dans l'angélisme, je vous conseille de suivre l'actualité et de peser les risques aux endroits où vous allez et pas à 700 ou 800 kms de là . D'ici octobre , l'eau va couler sous les ponts !

Bons projets .

Brigitte

CH Christinecar ·2013-02-04

Merci pour votre réponse Christine

CH Christinecar ·2013-02-04

Merci de ta reponse.

Christine

Anjoyplanet Regular ·2013-02-04

Je pars du 16 mars au 3 avril ;-) Je viens de me renseigner sur les conditions de remboursements des assurances en cas de troubles politiques graves... et bien sur aucune d'elles ne remboursent si la confédération suisse n'a pas déclaré l'Egypte comme déconseillée ou dangereuse...

Je n'ai pas fait d'assurance annulation... Easy Jet rembourse les vols si ils ne décollent plus - MÊME SI ON A PAS PRIS D'ASSURANCE ANNULATION ;-) (J'ai le REGA en cas d'accident maladie... Je pense que ça suffit amplement.)

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Domayeux Veteran ·2013-02-05

Je pense que s'il y a des risques, Kuoni annulera le séjour. Ils ne sont pas fous...

surtout que "Kuoni" est "une" référence dans le tourisme, ce ne sont pas des aventuriers 😉 laisse les faire, et tu ne seras pas déçu 😎

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Dom

Brigitte42 Globetrotter ·2013-02-05

Aïe Aîe Aîe ! ! ! c'est dommage ...

Brigitte

Brigitte42 Globetrotter ·2013-02-05

Brigitte

Anjoyplanet Regular ·2013-02-05

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Anjoyplanet Regular ·2013-02-05

Aïe Aîe Aîe ! ! ! c'est dommage ...

Qu'est-ce qui est dommage ???

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Anjoyplanet Regular ·2013-02-05

Répondu hier mais pas envoyé : je recommence ! Nous sommes dans le même cas : partons le 14 mars jusqu'à la fin du mois . Nous suivons l'actualité mais j'ai bonne idée ! On se rencontrera peut-être là bas ! Bonne soirée .

Salut Brigitte ;-))) Ou atterrissez-vous ??? (Moi à Huragada...ou je ne passerai que la 1ère nuit !)

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Brigitte42 Globetrotter ·2013-02-06

Bonjour , Je trouve dommage, pour eux, que ces personnes avec qui j'avais échangé qq M P et qui semblaient avoir envie de découvrir l'Egypte , aient annulé leur voyage .

Pourquoi faut-il toujours , dès qu'on entre dans une discussion sur ce pays , mettre les points sur les i et presque se justifier ? Il fallait prendre ma réponse au 1er d° , tout simplement ! Bonne journée .

Brigitte

Brigitte42 Globetrotter ·2013-02-06

Bonjour , Nous atterrissons à Luxor , filons directement à Assouan et revenons à Luxor 5 j après !

Nous ne serons que 2 ( pas un voyage 'semi pédagogique comme celui de l'an passé, où nous avons fait découvrir la plupart des sites à 4 novices ) ; donc , partage du temps entre farniente et sites moins connus ...

Vous savez tout ; bonne journée !

Brigitte

CH Christinecar ·2013-02-06

Merci pour votre réponse. Cela me rassure. Christine

Anjoyplanet Regular ·2013-02-06

Bonjour , Nous atterrissons à Luxor , filons directement à Assouan et revenons à Luxor 5 j après........

Comment y allez-vous ? Prenez-vous le train de Qena à Assouan ? Pensez-vous qu'Assouan soit "plus" intéressant que Luxor - pour une voyageuse qui n'a jamais visité l'Egypte ? Je n'ai qu'une petite semaine avant de rejoindre des amis pour faire une croisière à la rencontre des dauphins sauvages... (Je pense diviser mon temps entre les sites de Luxor et d'Assouam)

Merci dav ;-)

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Brigitte42 Globetrotter ·2013-02-06

Re ... Train au retour ; à l'aller , on a un transport !

Pour partager votre temps , il faut prévoir plus de journées à Luxor qu'à Assouan , si vous ne connaissez aucune des villes . Il vous faut au moins 3-4 j à Luxor et 2 à Assouan : strict minimum !

Bonnes vacances !

Brigitte

Anjoyplanet Regular ·2013-02-06

Super... C'est exactement ce que je prévoyais ;-))) MERCI

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NI Nicolasblr ·2013-02-06

Bonjour et bravo à Kob27g pour son compte-rendu très détaillé.

Je reviens moi aussi tout juste de 10 jours en Egypte avec ma femme, organisés par mes soins ; nous sommes arrivés au Caire vendredi dernier pour loger à l’hôtel Osiris, situé à 300 m de la fameuse place Tahir. Tout était parfaitement calme et nous avons déambulé sans aucune appréhension le soir dans les rues pour chercher un restaurant. Nous avons vu le lendemain les images d’un manifestant tabassé par la police qui sont passées en boucle sur les chaînes satellitaires ; elles avaient été filmées lors de manifestation ce même soir devant le palais présidentiel. Donc si vous n’êtes pas au cœur de la manifestation, vous ne vous rendez compte de rien.

Nous avions opté pour une croisière en Dahabeya avec Les Gréements du Nil : 5 jours de Louxor à Assouan. Nous étions deux couples de touristes sur ce bateau à voile construit en 1890, avec une luxueuse cabine et un personnel aux petits soins. Absolument super pour un prix raisonnable (650 €/per.).

La fréquentation touristique est tombée à 15% de ce qu’elle était avant la révolution. C’est donc le moment d’aller en Egypte pour profiter de toutes ses merveilles sans une foule de touristes.

Nicolas

Nicola

Aude073 Regular ·2013-02-08

Bonsoir,

Nous partons avec nos enfants de 7 et 10 ans avec la même compagnie : 2 jours à Louxor puis 5 jours en Sandal de Louxor à Assouan d'ici 3 semaines Nous sommes tellement impatients de quitter la neige savoyarde pour le soleil d'egypte!! Mettez nous l'eau à la bouche avec des détails sur votre voyage... Qu'avez vous le plus aimé? Quel temps aviez vous?Merci d'avance 😎

Andre1980 Globetrotter ·2013-02-08

La fréquentation touristique est tombée à 15% de ce qu’elle était avant la révolution. C’est donc le moment d’aller en Egypte pour profiter de toutes ses merveilles sans une foule de touristes.

Nicolas

Touriste en 2010 : 14,5 millions Touriste en 2011 : 10 millions (-31%) Touriste en 2012 : 11,5 millions

Plus proche des 21% que des 15%

Pour 2013, cela semble mal partie pour faire mieux que 2012 avec les manifestation de début d'année. Bien dommage vu que les touristes revenaient. 😕

Moi aussi je pense que c'est le moment d'aller en Égypte avec quand même un point interrogation pour le Caire et le nord.

"Un bivouac c'est un peu comme le dépucelage et la première cuite, une espèce de rite qui fais de toi un homme" (MonsieurHenri du site randonner-léger.org).

Récits de mes voyages : http://les-voyages-andre.blogspot.fr/

Brigitte42 Globetrotter ·2013-02-09

Bonjour , j'interviens et réponds à votre demande : faites-nous rêver ! Voici 2 messages que je vous transfère : le 1er est le mien , le 2d vient du Routard ; voilà de quoi vous faire une idée de ce qui vous attend !

Nous avons fait, à 6 ( dont 4 novices intégraux , mais bien coachés par nous ...), en mars passé, un merveilleux voyage de 2 semaines dans la haute vallée du Nil , dont 5 jours en dahabeya par la même organisation : pour les ' nouveaux' voyageurs , réticents au départ , la magie a opéré et ce n'était pas un clé sur porte , avec accompagnateur-chien de garde : nous sommes allés seuls dans des villages où on nous a demandé si on était polonais, nous avons marché dans le désert , sommes allés au marché de Daraw acheter des fruits pour le dessert , nous avons aussi fréquenté aussi dans des lieux hypertouristiques ( temple d'Edfou, de Philae , ...). rien de spécial . Nous avons été plus que satisfaits de notre petite croisière ; nous connaissions déjà la vallée du Nil par de multiples séjours avec visites en 'étoile' mais c'était la cerise sur le gâteau ! Pas de malades, malgré l'abus de délicieux jus de fruits et de légumes . Je peux vous envoyer qq photos , si vous voulez ; il y en a déjà sur le site : pour cela , donnez - moi un mail privé en MP.

Mosallam , qui est pratiquement tjs guide à bord ( c'est 'son' bâteau ! ) est très compétent et gentil . Quant à la nourriture, j'espère que vous n'avez pas 5 kgs à perdre ... Les cabines ( et la s d b) sont petites , forcément : tenez-en compte pour vos bagages ( nous partions pour 2 semaines ).

Pas d'alcool mais nous avions apporté qq bouteilles de vin pour le soir ; frigo empli de 'soft' à disposition . Tenez compte qu'il ne fera pas forcément très chaud après le coucher du soleil : polaire et 'pantoufles ' de rigueur ( tout au moins pour les frileux, alors que, pendant la journée , la t° est idéale .

Voici , en plus , un rapport de qq un qui revient d'une croisière sur la Naëma , posté sur le forum du Routard (une maman et sa fille de 7 ans) . -- Bonjour, Je ne résiste pas au plaisir de vous faire partager mon expérience. Nous sommes rentrées absolument émerveillées et heureuses du voyage que nous avons eu la chance de faire en Egypte : ..., 4 jours de croisières sur le Nil, ... Nous avons été époustouflées par la beauté de tout ce que nous avons vu : les sites bien évidemment, et les paysages magnifiques, mais aussi la dahabeya Naema. C’est un bateau superbe et magique, parfaitement équipé, et décoré avec beaucoup de goût et de soin, avec ses jolies cabines, son pont en bois, et tout ce qu’il faut pour assurer une croisière hors du temps et se laisser aller au repos et à la rêverie. Grâce au chef de la Naema, Kamal, et aux succulents repas qu’il nous préparait chaque jour, nous avons eu l’occasion de découvrir (et d’adorer) la cuisine égyptienne. Lui et le personnel de la Naema, d’une gentillesse infinie, ont fait de notre croisière un moment inoubliable !! Quant à notre guide pendant la croisière, Mosallam, il a pris le temps de donner des explications supplémentaires et à leur portée aux enfants, à l’aide des livres qu’ils avaient apportés. Nous avons été frappées également par la gentillesse, la chaleur, l’accessibilité et les sourires des gens que nous avons rencontrés au cours de notre voyage, en particulier dans le sud du pays. --

Voilà de quoi vous occuper jusqu'au départ !

Bonnes vacances !

Brigitte

AirOne Globetrotter ·2013-02-09

Éternel débat. On peut d'ailleurs l'étendre à pas mal de Pays du Nord de L'Afrique, faut il aller en Tunisie ? Oui, diront les TO. Qui aurait dit qu'il ne fallait plus aller au mali il y a 5 ans ? 3 ans? 2 ans ? Le fait est, on le sait bien actuellement, qu'ils avaient raison. Pour prendre un autre exemple que je connais assez bien, pourquoi les Allemands, les Belges, les Suisses, les Français ne vont plus en Mauritanie ? Il n'y a pas de guerre, il n'y a pas eu d'enlèvements dans les 2 régions touristiques que sont l'Adrar et le banc d'Argun. Ben oui, mais ça devient franchement difficile d'y aller. Le sud Algérien fait également consensus vu les évènements récents, mais il y a encore 6 mois, on me disait que c'était sûr, que c'était le moment d'y aller etc. Fallait être gonflé pour dire ça quand même ! Alors l'Egypte ? Chacun y va de son analyse, les retours des ministères des affaires étrangères ne sont pas cohérents d'un pays à l'autre, un Suisse, un Allemand qui se fait enlever, c'est juste une question de négoce , on paye : il rentre. En tant que français, britanique ou américain, on a tout intérêt à voir les choses différemment, c'est comme ça. Intuitivement, je dirais que l'Egypte ne pose pas trop de problème vu qu'elle est régie par un gouvernement proche des mouvances salafistes, un gouvernement qui, comme tous les gouvernements , n'a pas intérêt à voir un massacre de touristes ou un enlèvement de groupe avoir lieu sur son territoire, on peut supposer qu'ils ont suffisamment de taupes dans les milieux concernés pour veiller au grain. Non, en Egypte, je craindrais plus une grève générale m'empêchant de rentrer...mais ça, c'est parce que j'ai l'esprit déformé par ma nationalité ...😉

Erwan La vie est belle ! La vie est belle ! Je me tue à vous le dire disait la fleur. Et elle meurt ( J.Prévert)

Andre1980 Globetrotter ·2013-02-09

La France doit être le pays le plus généreux pour les rançons. Elle a toujours payer (sauf la dernier fois pour l'otage en somalie). Pour un terroriste, le français c'est le saint Graal 😄

AirOne Globetrotter ·2013-02-09

La France doit être le pays le plus généreux pour les rançons. Elle a toujours payer (sauf la dernier fois pour l'otage en somalie). Pour un terroriste, le français c'est le saint Graal 😄

J'aimerais te croire. Il est certain que des rançons ont été payées en Afghanistan lors de la libération des 2 journalistes, mais il y a une différence entre un pays qui dit qu'il ne paiera pas et un pays qui ne dit rien (Allemagne) mais qui paie toujours. Tu devrais étudier les temps de capivité des différentes nationalités lors des prises d'otage, juste comme ça, pour voir. La politique de la France n'est pas aussi claire que celles de l'Algérie ou du Royaume Uni, mais elle n'est pas aussi coulante que celles de Pays comme l'Espagne, l'Allemagne ou l'Italie . Maintenant , tout dépend de qui va payer, si c'est une entreprise, elle paiera, si c'est l'état qui est rançonné, tout dépendra du contexte politique.

Erwan La vie est belle ! La vie est belle ! Je me tue à vous le dire disait la fleur. Et elle meurt ( J.Prévert)

Anjoyplanet Regular ·2013-02-09

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Albundy Veteran ·2013-02-09

Felicitations pour votre rapport détaillé de voyage. Tres complet. A la question: pourquoi...? En ce qui me concerne, après 2 voyages en individuel en Egypte, il y a quelques années, je n'avais pas touvé ce pays et sa population accueillants. Principalement à Luxor et au Caire. Les évènements actuels qui durent depuis plus d'un an, et les positions parfois radicales du Pdt Morsi font que cela ne m'incitent pas à y retourner. Pour ma part, j'ai besoin de me sentir "bien" lorsque je visite un pays. Bien dans ma tête et bien dans ma peau, et raccord au minimum avec la politique de libertés individuelles du pays. C'est tout simple en fin de compte. Lorsque les Egyptiens votent, ils doivent tout inclure dans leur vote. Leur choix respectable des Freres musulmans, n'était pas et ne sera pas un gage d'expansion touristique par rapport à l'Occident. Le peuple le savait bien en votant. C'est donc leur choix. Les adeptes du "tout va tres bien Mme la Marquise" ne sont plus crédibles. les médias du monde entier y compris ceux du Maghreb relatent les troubles qui touchent l'ensemble du pays. Je souhaite bonne chance aux Egyptiens. Je voulais simplement répondre à votre post d'origine, pas aux dérives qui ont pu suivre, et je ne veux surtout pas polémiquer. Simplement répondre à "Pourquoi..." Encore bravo pour votre compte-rendu.

C'est un devoir de bousculer la pensée unique...

Anjoyplanet Regular ·2013-02-10

Merci pour votre opinion ;-) Vous qui avez exploré plusieurs fois ce pays, quel a été la ville ou l'endroit le plus "sympat" ? - le plus détendu ? Auriez-vous un endroit à me conseiller pour mon retour de croisière (dauphins sauvages) car j'aurais encore 3 jours plein depuis Hurgada (plus exactement Marsa Alam) avant mon retour en avion d'Hurgada... Hurgada est-elle tellement affreuse ??? Merci dav 😉

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KO Kob27g ·2013-02-10

Merci beaucoup.

Comme pour beaucoup de pays, les mentalités sont très différentes en Égypte selon l'endroit où on se trouve. Les villes du nord (Le Caire, Suez, Alexandrie) sont beaucoup plus revendicatives que celles du sud. Les habitants du nord sont très portés sur le modèle occidental et aspirent à un mode de vie occidental. Louxor est différent car c'est une ville vivant exclusivement du tourisme, ne souhaitant donc pas faire de "vague" pour continuer à recevoir des occidentaux. Quant à Assouan, la mentalité est beaucoup plus cool (l'état d'esprit nubien ??), les habitants regardent d'un œil très très lointain ce qu'il se passe au nord. Lors des grosse manifestations d'il y a 2 ans, aussi bien à Louxor qu'à Assouan, il ne s'est presque rien passé.

Le choix des frères musulmans n'est peut-être pas judicieux. Mais ce sont eux qui ont porté la "révolution" et logiquement ils ont hérité du pouvoir.

A chaque fois que dans le sud, je parlais de la révolution avec les autochtones, on me répondait que les gens du nord étaient trop impatients, que la situation n'allait pas s'améliorer si rapidement.

Pour en finir, à aucun moment je ne suis senti en danger. Par sécurité, j'ai juste évité la place Tahrir.

NI Nicolasblr ·2013-02-10

Bonjour,

Nous n'avons pas eu très beau temp. Nuageux mais 25° à Louxor les deux premiers jours, puis chute de température à 15° avec du vent sur le Nil pendant 5 jours, dont seulement 2 jours de soleil et même une matinée de pluie. Puis retour du beau temps à Assouan et au Caire. Mais dans 3 semaines, vous devriez avoir du soleil et de la chaleur.

Louxor est vraiment merveilleux : nous avons surtout aimé les tombes de la vallée des artisans et des nobles. Toutes petites, mais pratiquement sans touriste, avec des peintures extraordinairement bien conservées et des détails de la vie de tous les jours très émouvants. Le musée de Louxor aussi est à ne pas manquer, à mon avis. Même s'il n'a pas la richesse du musée du Caire, il y a notamment une extraordinaire statue de Thourmosis III. Le musée de la momification est aussi intéressant.

Les visites avec les Gréements du Nil sont bien sûr incontournables : Karnak, Edfou, Kom Ombo et Philae, plus quelques autres sites sans touriste.

A Assouan, nous avons visité le village nubien de l'Ile Eléphantine. Sympa, mais pas indispensable.

Et pour finir deux jours au Caire. Mais ce n'était pas suffisant, bien sûr.

Nicolas

Nicola

Aude073 Regular ·2013-02-10

Merci pour ce retour d'expérience 😎

AirOne Globetrotter ·2013-02-10

Auriez-vous un endroit à me conseiller pour mon retour de croisière (dauphins sauvages) car j'aurais encore 3 jours plein depuis Hurgada (plus exactement Marsa Alam) avant mon retour en avion d'Hurgada... Hurgada est-elle tellement affreuse ??? Merci dav 😉

Jesuis allé 6 fois à hurgadha durant les 18 dernières années, au debut on s'y baladait c'était sympa, maintenant... Fais un peu de shoping et va faire une balade dans le desert en chameau ou en quad, n'y perd pas ton temps. Quseir et Safaga son bien plus sympa.

Je rebondis sur l'affirmation que les gens du Nord de lEgypte seraient plus à craindre que ceux de Louxor. Il faut quand même se souvenir du massacre de Touristes qui avait eu lieu dans la vallée des reines, les terroristes venaient des envions de Louxor pour la plupart, ils n'étaient pas citadins, mais ils venaient bien du sud. Bon, il ne faut pas perdre de vue que ces attentats arrivent n'importe où et en premier lieu en Europe.

Erwan La vie est belle ! La vie est belle ! Je me tue à vous le dire disait la fleur. Et elle meurt ( J.Prévert)

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Domayeux Veteran ·2013-02-10

étaient en de Sohag donc quand meme au Nord ........... et pas des environs de Louxor!

Waaouuuh !!! si vous retournez un jour en Égypte éviter d'aller à Sohag ... car traiter les "Saïdis" de "gens du Nord" vous êtes courageux ... Je suis marié avec une "Arab el Sohag" et JAMAIS je ne me risquerais à une telle affirmation ... j'aime trop la vie ....

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LA Lauriesalvie ·2013-02-10

Bonjour,

Et bien votre récit et vos conseils donnent envie d'aller voir de plus près ce pays plein d'histoire.

Je souhaiterai vivement pouvoir visiter le pays des pharaons mais j'hésite encore un peu, vu les tensions,

Bon est bien vous m'avez donné envie d'y aller

Merci encore,

Laurie🙂

«Plutôt que d’attendre un coup de chance, crée ta propre chance»

AirOne Globetrotter ·2013-02-10

@airOne - l'attentat dont vous parlez a eu lieu, il y a plus de 15 ans, a Hatchepsout et pas la vallee des reines ............ nuances! et ceux qui l'ont perpetue etaient de Sohag donc quand meme au Nord ........... et pas des environs de Louxor!

A 3h de Louxor et à 6h du Caire....dire que c'est au Nord.... Bon, c'était il y a 15 ans, OK, c'est vrai que c'est bien plus calme maintenant, c'est pas comme si on avait envahi l'Irak, l'Afgahnistan et sans parler du Mali...🏴‍☠️

Erwan La vie est belle ! La vie est belle ! Je me tue à vous le dire disait la fleur. Et elle meurt ( J.Prévert)

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AirOne Globetrotter ·2013-02-10

La France doit être le pays le plus généreux pour les rançons. Elle a toujours payer (sauf la dernier fois pour l'otage en somalie). Pour un terroriste, le français c'est le saint Graal 😄

Cette période est révolue.

Je trouve que c'est très naïf de croire ça.

Jusqu'à la preuve du contraire devant laquelle je m'inclinerai bien volontiers, la France (c'est-à-dire l'Etat français) n'a jamais payé une rançon et il est hautement vraisemblable qu'elle n'en paiera jamais.

Corrélativement, si vous voulez parler de mouvements de fonds empruntant des circuits assez élaborés, je défie quiconque d'apporter la preuve que cette période est révolue.

Ce ne sont pas des choses qui se traitent au café du commerce.

On ne traite pas, on discute, c'est un peu à ça que servent les forums.

De la même façon on peut défier quiconque de prouver que l'état paye toujours, il y a des exemples recents en Somalie, au Niger et au Mali de tentatives de liberation d'otages par la force qui se sont toutes soldées par le décès de tout ou partie des otages. Il est donc tout aussi naïf de penser que la France paye systématiquement, ou qu'elle est le Pays qui paie le plus souvent pour liberer ses otages. On peut tout au plus parler du cas particulier des journalistes qui semblent systématiquement être libérés contre rançon.

Erwan La vie est belle ! La vie est belle ! Je me tue à vous le dire disait la fleur. Et elle meurt ( J.Prévert)

Andre1980 Globetrotter ·2013-02-10

Voila.

la France ne paie pas directement mais les terroriste reçoivent de l'argent via des mouvement parallèle. Mais au final, l'argent vient presque toujours des caisses de l’État.

C'est simplement que l'état ne peut pas dire tout haut qu'il paie sinon ce serai l’exposition des enlèvement de français.

Si l'état français ne paient pas, les méchant de garderai pas durant des mois des otages pour rien. 😇 On remarques que les méchants ne prennent jamais des russes en otage. C'est pas pour rien. 😛

Jehannin Regular ·2013-02-10

On ne traite pas, on discute, c'est un peu à ça que servent les forums.

Tout-à-fait d'accord.

C'est pourquoi on ne peut pas se satisfaire de jugements à l'emporte-pièce, qui tiennent en trois ou quatre mots assénés comme une vérité d'évangile.

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Calisson94 19 hours ago

Back to Swedish Lapland: Trekking the Kungsleden and Crossing Sarek

Summer 2022 left me with a sense of unfinished business, so here I am back in Swedish Lapland for summer 2024, ready to attempt the Sarek crossing again—and this time, tackle part of the Kungsleden too.

After much hesitation, my partner Jean Marie and I decided to start with the Kungsleden, which is, from what we’ve read, stunning but very busy (and it really is!!), and finish with the wilder option: SAREK! This park is known as Europe’s last true wilderness—sounds like a dream, right?! The downside of this plan is that there’s no way to resupply in Sarek, and the Kungsleden isn’t exactly set up for long-distance trekking either, so we’ll have to carry a lot of food for the first part of the trip with Sarek in mind. Oh well, we’re motivated!

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All in all, that’s 17 days of trekking, including 1 rest day and 1 buffer day for weather delays.

So if you’re interested, I invite you to follow our fully packed backpacks!

08/03 - Abisko – 5km before Abiskojaure Some info (guides we used for prep, SFT map, sending food to Saltoluokta) 08/04 – 5km before Abiskojaure - on the east shore of Lake Alisjavri 08/05 – East shore of Lake Alisjavri – just before Tjaktja 08/06 – Just before Tjaktja – above the Salka hut via Nallo 08/07 - Salka – just past Singi + side trip to Djalson Lake 08/08 - Singi – Teusajaure 08/09 - Teusajaure - Vakkotavare (end of the first section of the Kungsleden) 08/10 – rest day in Saltoluokta + round trip to the Sámi village of Pietjaure 08/11 – Saltoluokta – Sitojaure 08/12 - Sitojaure - Skierfe - Sarek or no Sarek? 08/13 – Skierfe – somewhere above Rapadalen 08/14 – Somewhere above Rapadalen – above the Skarki hut 08/15 – Above the Skarki hut - Skarja 08/16 – Camping at Skarja 08/17 – Ruohtesvagge 08/18 – Ruohtesvagge - Padjelantaleden 08/19 – Padjelantaleden - Ritsem – End of the trek 08/20–24 - End of the trip (Lullea - Stockholm) And of course, the recap

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Aleph240758 19 hours ago

New adventures from Perpignan to Ranchi (Jharkhand)

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, also Baroque, adorned with beautiful frescoes

—a music concert adds an enchanting atmosphere to the visit. I continue my walk at random through the pedestrian streets lined with magnificent buildings: I’m charmed by the city.

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MirandaMouse 19 hours ago

Mice in Switzerland, the Other Cheese Country!

I'm starting my first travel journal since VF reopened!

This will mostly be to share my impressions and some photos, with a few days' delay, but I'm starting this journal while I'm still here.

First, I'd like to thank those who helped me prepare for this trip.

I was able to organize this stay in one of the most expensive countries in the world thanks to the home-exchange principle. Not necessarily a direct swap, but through a points system, which is more practical for choosing where you want to go without it having to be a reciprocal exchange.

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RichardXI 19 hours ago

Page by Page on the Assisi Way – 1,200 km on Foot

Preamble

June 2024. While hiking with my brother on the GR 36 Tour du Morvan, I catch sight now and then of strange rectangular markers fixed to tree trunks. Against a bright orange background, a deep black Greek tau topped with a white dove. My first encounter with the Assisi Way. The Way of St. Francis: a pilgrimage route linking Vézelay in Burgundy to Assisi in Italy, covering nearly 1,800 km. It felt like an obvious next step—I immediately knew I’d take it on, attempt the adventure solo.

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This text is the exact transcription of my daily writings. Rereading them, I didn’t change a thing—just corrected a few mistakes and tweaked some awkward phrasing here and there. Short texts, fitting the format imposed by this kind of app. Writing as if addressing others.

Now, all that was left was to walk. April 18, 2026 – Vézelay.

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Jojoone1 3 days ago

All Over Thailand

You can post your personal photos in the following thread: https://voyageforum.com/forum/quelque-part-en-thailande-d10655574/

This travel journal is therefore intended solely for my photos, to present a consistent style. All the shots were taken with a simple Samsung Galaxy smartphone and with whatever was at hand.

All stays combined, I’ve spent the equivalent of a year at most in Thailand, and I’m no great expert. However, after many trips, lots of reading on VoyageForum and other sites, and conversations with many locals as well as expats, my view of the country is becoming clearer, though it’s constantly evolving. You never stop discovering and learning.

I guess I wanted to deliver a puzzle, mainly for those who want to get an idea of the country here and for those who feel nostalgic about it. I don’t know if this minimalist sharing will interest anyone, but it’ll do me good to put it together. After so many months without traveling and then these other long months with VF closed, there’s plenty of material available.

There’ll be a mix of places, periods, and subjects, but it might well be intentional.

I suspect many Thais have dogs because they make excellent guardians for the home. Nothing better to deter burglars or to signal the presence of a snake. You’ll often see Thais tapping the top of their dog’s head, but don’t be fooled: it’s a sign of affection from them. Judging by the dogs’ reactions, they’re used to it.

Thailand is one of the countries on the planet where rabies is still present, so keep that in mind. It’s not just bites that can be dangerous, so don’t let just any dog lick you. Especially on a wound, of course. Even though dogs often fear humans—this dangerous and unpredictable predator—we still need to stay cautious. Be careful when walking into alleys because the dog will defend its master’s big yard. Be careful at night, and be careful when they’re in packs. It sometimes crosses our minds that Thailand isn’t all that made for walking around, and dogs are one of the reasons. That said, it’s not uncommon to see them chasing bikes or scooters. Cars, though? Much rarer—they’re too big.

It seems Thais prefer to give their dogs freedom by not locking them behind gates. Though sometimes the gate is closed, the little side door is wide open. Oh, and sometimes there’s no gate in front of the property, or it’s been full of holes for years.

You’ll often see dogs sleeping on the roadside, sometimes right on the road. When you approach, they move aside nonchalantly—or not at all. It’s less funny when they suddenly appear from thick vegetation, reminding visitors not to drive too fast. As a result, you’ll notice that dogs with injuries or missing legs aren’t that rare.

Since they believe in reincarnation and respect for all forms of life, they don’t chase dog packs away too much, and they don’t sterilize them enough. When you see a small pack roaming freely in the countryside, you think twice about running into them at the edge of a field. A darker side of this is that euthanasia isn’t often practiced. Twice, we saw dogs at death’s door in temples, enduring terrible suffering with no one to help. The image (and the smell) of one of them, agonizing and exuding the stench of death, still comes back to me sometimes.

Some of you may have seen the YouTube vlog of a French woman living in Phuket who was given a little pig by her Thai friends. The animal, well-fed, quickly became a happy and enormous beast with its own garden. Yet it didn’t take long for it to fall seriously ill and become incurable. In her video, the French woman described how difficult it was to find a vet willing to perform euthanasia.

You’ll often see bowls by the side of the road. Thais leave food and water there for stray cats and dogs. Overall, they have a big heart for animals.

If you ever pop into a shopping mall, you might see people pushing their small dogs in strollers. It’s not just for fun—these strollers are provided for customers to put their pets in, otherwise you can’t bring them inside. It looks a bit odd when you expect to see a baby.

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Zigomar67 5 days ago · Puma2A

Argentine and Chilean Patagonia from El Calafate to Ushuaia

This travel journal summarizes a trip I took in March to Argentine and Chilean Patagonia. It starts in El Calafate and ends in Ushuaia. During my planning, I considered looking into the Australis cruise from Punta Arenas to Ushuaia, as well as the W trek in Torres del Paine National Park. In both cases, I was put off by the prices. Instead of the cruise, I found two interesting wildlife excursions from Punta Arenas: whale watching in the Strait of Magellan and observing king penguins in Tierra del Fuego. The journey to Ushuaia was by bus. For Torres del Paine, things were a bit confusing, so I reached out to two agencies. In the end, I went with a rental car option, overnight stays on-site, and day hikes. I shared my full itinerary with the agency and ended up being taken care of by a local Argentine agency and a Chilean one. So, here we go...

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Montagnard74 6 days ago · Djalma

Turkey 2026: Riviera, Antalya, and Cappadocia

Hi everyone!

If you're looking for great tips and offbeat spots, if you love exploring uncharted parts of a country, if the exotic is your adrenaline, then move along!

Our 15 days in early May in this part of Turkey (a country I first discovered during a city trip to Istanbul in 2017) will only tread well-worn paths and revisit popular routes. Simply because I kept hoping until the very end that our flight to Jordan wouldn’t be canceled. Events in the Gulf proved me wrong, so we left with: Zero preparation. Not a single hotel booked (well, except the first one), no visits planned, just a flight ticket bought three weeks earlier. No guidebook, no app—just the desire to explore southern Turkey and Cappadocia, whose images and the chance to stretch our legs had caught my eye.

Oh, wait—I did bring along a new guide: Gemini! Yes, my friends, generative AI was my chief advisor throughout the trip for sites to visit, accommodations, routes, and even restaurants! An experiment I wanted to try to form my own opinion on using this new technology. And what better way to test it than a Turkish getaway?

The verdict? You’ll have to wait for the trip recap to find out!

The main idea of the trip is also relaxation.

So, the plan is Antalya for a few days, the Turkish Riviera for a few more, Cappadocia as the highlight, and a return via Antalya to wrap up the trip. And it was all planned by AI!

So, if you're ready, fasten your seatbelts—cabin crew, doors to automatic and cross check—boarding for Turkey now!

A little sneak peek?

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Nathalie971 7 days ago

From Southern Shikoku, between land and sea, to the blue waters of Miyakojima and finally the Tokyo metropolis

From Southern Shikoku, between land and sea, to the blue waters of Miyakojima and finally Tokyo’s megacity

Hi everyone,

I have to admit, I really hesitated before deciding to write this travel journal... Writing one takes a lot of time and energy, and since this is my 4th trip, I wondered if it would even interest anyone other than myself (both for the discovery and the writing). But after a few people asked, "Are you going to write a journal?" and especially after rediscovering the joy of reading other travelers’ journals about Japan or elsewhere on this forum, I’ve decided to share my 4th installment in the Land of the Rising Sun here.

The itinerary: 27 full days, from late May to late June 2025, right in the middle of the rainy season, including:

-->13 days in Shikoku, from Kochi (Kochi Prefecture) to Matsuyama (Ehime Prefecture)

-->7 days in Miyakojima (Okinawa Prefecture)

-->7 days in Tokyo

The trip was decided on fairly last-minute again this year.

Since I regularly check flight prices to track fluctuations for this destination even without concrete plans, stumbling upon a slightly cheaper direct flight (900 €) than what I’d seen in previous months (around 1,200–1,400 € on average) for a Paris-Tokyo route with Japanese airline ANA was too tempting to resist the urge to return to this enchanting country. After much hesitation between exploring the San’in region (Matsue, Tottori, Yamaguchi) and Southern Shikoku, the decision was made—I took the plunge! The ticket is booked: Paris to Kochi with a layover in Tokyo, all with ANA, the airline I’d been dreaming of... for 1,120 € per person. Okay, it’s not cheap, but it’s better than in 2023.

Departure in 2 weeks! Now I just have to get everything ready!

Intense prep work over these next 2 weeks to:

finalize a more precise itinerary and reach an agreement—yep, because even though we both love Japan, our preferences differ slightly, and we have to choose between exploring new places or revisiting beloved spots... decide how much time to spend in each area without rushing while still exploring research places that might interest us and watch videos about Japan book accommodations: yes, it’s possible to do this on the spot, but last year, we realized that last-minute options were pretty expensive, so we’re booking ahead—though we’ll keep a few options open in case better deals pop up later reserve rental cars order yen check the weather regularly and wonder if choosing the *tsuyu* (rainy season) was really a good idea—are we going to be drenched the whole time???

"What hard work," you might say! Going to Japan for a month—what a tough life! Despite this being my 4th trip, the excitement is just as intense as the first time.

The only small downside is that when we booked the flight, there weren’t many seats left, so we’re only sitting together on the international return flight. Plus, on the way there, we have middle seats. Another lingering question: what French-language films will be available? According to the internet, the selection seems limited. Oh well, these are just minor details—it’s already time to fly! PS: I’ll be posting slowly and irregularly... so for those interested, be patient, and maybe set an alert...

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Cendryon 7 days ago · Eole34

Kattegat Tour and Norway’s Majestic Fjords – 32 Days (Denmark, Sweden, Norway)

Kattegat isn’t just the name of the village in the TV series *Vikings*—it’s also the stretch of water separating Denmark from Sweden... the sea, basically! And further north, you’ve got Norway and its fjords! Originally, I’d planned to just do a loop around Kattegat, with the *Under* restaurant in Lindesnes as our anniversary treat... but along the way, we thought, why not "push" a little further north, keeping an eye on the budget since we’d chosen to travel by car in June 2025 through Scandinavia.

Why by car when most travelers opt for a camper van, while others prefer the comfort of cruises? Well, because we don’t own a camper van, renting one is pricey, and then you’ve got to add fuel costs (those things guzzle gas!), ferry fees, and other "tolls." All things considered, we went for mostly rentals—especially since there were four of us at the start of the trip. We spent the first week in Denmark with our daughter and son-in-law. Then they flew back to Belgium, and we continued our adventure as a couple. For accommodation, we mainly booked Airbnb apartments, which helped keep costs down and, most importantly, let us prepare our own meals (diet, diet!). In this travel journal, you’ll discover (or rediscover, for those who followed my older ones) our unbridled love for theme parks, museums, unique experiences, and—especially in Denmark—Legos! Unfortunately, we didn’t do any hikes this year because the unpredictable weather had made the trails slippery, and since I’d already taken three tumbles during the trip, I didn’t want to risk another! In the end, we traveled for 32 days, covered 6,200 km, and most importantly, discovered the charming country of Denmark, marveled at Norway’s breathtaking fjords—all without suffering the heatwave that hit France and Belgium that June! If you’ve got any questions, don’t hesitate to ask!

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Servanel 2 weeks ago · Vandfaure

Two weeks in Malaysia in September 2017

Hi there,

Here’s our account of our trip to Malaysia from September 11th to 27th. I hope our tips can help others as much as this forum has helped us!

Day 0:

Departure from Nantes with a transfer in Amsterdam via KLM (720 €).

Day 1:

We arrive at KLIA1 in the early afternoon. First challenge: figuring out where to pick up our luggage. Turns out the answer is right under our noses—we need to take the airport’s internal metro! Once we’ve got our bags, we withdraw some cash from a Maybank ATM right there. Next up: SIM card! Just outside the arrivals hall, several kiosks offer them. We go for a Celcom 5 GB card (70 RM). Then it’s taxi time to get to KL, in the Bukit Bintang area—about 85 RM in a slightly old taxi with weak air conditioning. We check into our Airbnb apartment, which is clean, more spacious than a hotel room, and—best of all—has a charming balcony with a gorgeous nighttime view!

We end up hanging out on that balcony, reviewing our plans for the next day. After dark, we take the monorail just a short walk away to enjoy our first evening on a rooftop at the 34th floor: Hélipad (Raja Chulan station—you have to enter the Menara Tower at the base of the station) with a panoramic view of the city and its iconic towers.

Finally, we head to Jalan Alor to grab a bite in this super busy street. Big sleep ahead! 😴

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Muriel18 2 weeks ago · Puma2A

Two weeks under the Puglia sun

After a pretty disastrous weather-wise trip to Gran Canaria, we’re hoping this time the sun will shine in Puglia. It’s not a sure thing, though—the weather’s been awful all over Europe in early May.

For those who’d like to (re)read the story without the digressions, it’s here.

Saturday, May 16: This time we’re flying out of Charleroi (Brussels South): the ticket prices, flight times, and proximity all worked for us. The airport (Ryanair) was recently renovated... but it’s still not very well organized. There are hardly any seats in the boarding areas, and... the restrooms cost money!!! The flight goes smoothly, though, and we land in Bari a little late.

We quickly pick up our rental car, a very local-looking Pandina (even more so than the Fiat 500 in this region), and hit the Italian roads... and their unique driving quirks (like the fact that the countless road signs along the streets and in towns are purely decorative 😏, and that Italian cars don’t have turn signals 😮... except for rental cars).

About an hour later, we arrive at our first accommodation, right in the middle of the countryside near Monopoli. The owner isn’t there, but they’ve left us a ton of info via messages and even turned on the space heater, which is a nice touch. We explore the property:

And the next morning before breakfast, its immediate surroundings:

Sunday, May 17: After our "seaside" experience in Gran Canaria last weekend (packed with people and locals), we decide to start inland. After a hearty breakfast,

we head toward Alberobello, a super touristy village famous for its trulli—those stone houses with conical roofs. We easily find a free parking spot on a street near the Aia Piccola district, where some trulli are still lived in year-round.

We almost immediately come across the Trullo Sovrano (the only two-story one), which you can visit (but we skip it—it’s opening time, and there’s already a line).

From there, we head down toward the Basilica of Cosma e Damiano... but we don’t go in because there’s a mass.

Now we’re on the main Piazza del Popolo, which connects the two districts of Alberobello: Rione Aia Piccola and Rione Monti, the more touristy one.

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Fabhyène 2 weeks ago · Chrisfenua

3 weeks in Laos, stress-free

Come along, I'm taking you to this country where it's so nice to wander and slow down...

This trip was in 2023, but when I wanted to write my travel journal, VF was still closed to contributions... So, now that I've just finished my Japan travel journal here, I figured it was high time to honor this destination we came back from so enchanted. Disclaimer 1: This is a written travel journal. There’ll be text! Too much, for some! Disclaimer 2: This is an illustrated travel journal. There’ll be photos! Too many, for some!

I have to say, every time I try to discipline myself, to keep it shorter, to include fewer photos... I end up adding more. It feels like my dear Aunt Nicole, who exhausted us with her slide-show evenings in the 70s/80s, decided to take her revenge. The upside for you, readers, is that you can slip away anytime without offending Aunt Nicole. I won’t even notice!

Anyway, since I love maps, here’s one to give you an idea of where I’m taking you. As you can see, we only saw a tiny part of Laos (the areas circled in red); we only had 3 weeks for ourselves (my husband’s newly retired, I still work), and we prefer taking our time over rushing around like crazy.

In broad strokes, it was very classic:

First, we “settled in” at Luang Prabang (8 days), because we wanted and needed to. From there, we took three days to venture a little further north—not far in kilometers, but as we know, distances aren’t just about km! Then we flew south to Paksé, letting ourselves drift down to the 4,000 Islands while stopping by the pre-Angkorian archaeological sites. We wrapped up with the Bolaven Plateau.

A few practical notes: We arrived via Bangkok, then took a Bangkok-Luang Prabang flight, having picked up our luggage in Bangkok to check it in for Luang Prabang. No issues—the Bangkok airport, which many of you know, is very well organized. We got our visas on arrival in Luang Prabang. Quick, but to be fair, we were on a “small” plane, and the big flights had arrived earlier, so we weren’t too crowded in line! At the end of our trip, we didn’t fly out of Paksé but from the nearby airport in Thailand, Ubon Ratchathani (a 2.5-hour drive from Paksé), then Bangkok and Paris. You’ll notice we skipped Vientiane to stay longer in Luang Prabang. That said, there’s now a high-speed train between Vientiane and Luang Prabang—good to know—and soon the (Chinese) train will go all the way to Bangkok and even Kuala Lumpur!

With that intro out of the way, let’s dive into the heart of the matter. To be continued: Slowing down the pace... in Luang Prabang

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Torpan 2 weeks ago · Tulipe57

Japan: First Discovery!

Here’s a little story about my first trip to Japan with my partner. We went for our first visit from October 29 to November 13, 2024.

I had planned this entire trip back in November 2020, but given the health situation at the time, I had to cancel...

Here’s the classic route we took:

We booked everything ourselves and got a regional pass for the area from Kyoto to Hiroshima. The hotels were reserved 3 months in advance on Book... and Agod... (1030 € for 2 people for 13 nights = 80 €/night). For the flight, we chose a Qatar Airways flight with a layover to break up the long journey (950 € per person). We also got a pass on the same site (Japan-Experience) to take the train connecting Narita Airport to Shibuya Station (the N'EX Narita Express). Since the airport is 75 km from central Tokyo, we opted for this mode of transport, even though there are cheaper alternatives. After reading various posts on VoyageForum, I understood how important it was to have a Welcome Suica card to pay for public transport (subway, tram, bus, boat throughout the country), and we were able to buy one at Narita Airport. It turned out to be super useful! After a long but smooth journey, we found ourselves at Narita Airport in the evening. Even though we had a pass for the Narita Express, we had to go to a counter to make a reservation for the train (mandatory). Then, once we arrived at Shibuya Station, we took the subway for 2 stops and finally reached our hotel, exhausted (Hotel Asia Center of Japan – 270 € for 3 nights with breakfast included).

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Fabhyène 2 weeks ago · Tulipe57

Draw Me Your Japan...

Hi there!

I’m inviting you on a stroll through my drawings—a completely subjective, far from exhaustive, and totally personal take, since it’s based on my own sketches. I put this travel journal together after returning in late 2024, mostly using felt-tip pens and pencils, with a few collages thrown in. I worked from our personal photos.

Let’s start with the shotengai...

Our first "wow" moment came as we stepped out of the subway in Asakusa, the Tokyo neighborhood where we’d booked our hotel for our first five nights. Exhausted after our long flight, we finally arrived and took an exit that led straight into a shotengai—one of those covered shopping streets that pop up in city centers and flourished between the 1950s and 1980s.

It was an instant aesthetic shock, like a close encounter of the third kind between the modern city, a typical Asian market with its street stalls, the vintage vibe of the arcade, the sheer abundance of goods, and the bustling crowd—a mix of tourists, pilgrims (thanks to nearby Senso-ji Temple), and locals (it’s a very working-class area). In the end, it set the tone for a feeling we’d experience throughout the trip. Wherever we went, shotengai turned out to be fantastic spots for finding little restaurants, shops, or even fresh produce. Some are like real mazes, like in Kyoto, where we spent ages trying to relocate a restaurant we’d loved ;-)

In Kanazawa, the Omicho Market:

And in Kyoto, Nishiki Market:

To be continued...

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Holigirl 2 weeks ago · Solene40

South Africa in safari mode: February/March 2026

Hi everyone,

With my girlfriend Christelle, we’ve chosen South Africa for our first trip to Southern Africa, focusing on safaris—after a long debate with a Cape Town/Kruger combo. But that would’ve meant cutting out St Lucia, which would’ve been harder to fit into another trip. And St Lucia—thanks to Michel and all those travel journals—we really wanted to go there.

So our 11-night itinerary ended up like this, mostly shaped by school holidays: - 3 nights in St Lucia - 1 night in Hluhluwe - 1 night at Mkhaya Game Reserve (Eswatini) - 1 night at Hlane Royal National Park (Eswatini) - 3 nights in Kruger (Berg en Dal / Satara / Tamboti) - 1 night at Shindzela Tented Camp in the Timbavati private reserve - 1 final night in Kruger at Lower Sabie

All of this in the off-season and rainy season, just a month after catastrophic floods that killed over 150 people and seriously damaged Kruger’s infrastructure.

I’ll jump straight to St Lucia and skip the loooong journey to get there (with a layover in Frankfurt, landing in Johannesburg, a domestic flight to Durban, and the rest by rental SUV—First Car Rental, perfect, no complaints).

To motivate readers—especially some familiar faces here—I’ll drop in a first photo.

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Caroki 3 weeks ago

Three weeks in Albania with two older teens

We went to Albania in August 2025. Our itinerary included adventure (sporty activities, site visits), naps on the beach interspersed with swims, incredible natural sites, and a bit of culture.

I booked all our accommodations on Booking.com. Note: almost all places ask to be paid in cash!! You can obviously withdraw from banks, but the fees are pretty high. Luckily, we had plenty of cash, and the country is very safe. You can pay in euros most of the time, which avoids exchange fees. We started in Tirana. I’d read a really interesting post about Albania’s bunkers (link in my profile). We chose to visit Bunk’Art with a guide from the agency that wrote the post. It was fascinating—not only to better understand the country’s history but also because her grandfather was repressed by the regime, and she shared her family’s experience with us.

Bunkers are everywhere! In Tirana, Bunk’Art is the most interesting and largest. You’ll see the dictator Enver Hoxha’s office, where he would’ve taken refuge in case of an attack on the country. Bring a sweater—it’s really cold in the underground tunnels and their huge corridors. You can visit other bunkers around the country, in Tirana and elsewhere. Almost all are just abandoned. The cable car up Mount Dajti is right next to Bunk’Art. The view is stunning—you realize Tirana is so close to the mountains and the sea... But otherwise, it’s not that exciting for older teens (17 and 19) and their parents. We picked up a rental car in Tirana—it’d be ours for the next three weeks. We used Goalbania’s agency to avoid any hassles. First, there aren’t many cars available in Albania in summer. Second, French credit cards can be a nightmare abroad. So we preferred to sort that out in advance. After Tirana, we headed to Permet. Just a heads-up: the roads are in great condition except in the mountains. And Albanian drivers aren’t stressful to deal with. Though you might suddenly encounter a herd of goats crossing the road—haha—but if you’re not going too fast, it’s fine. In Permet, I’d been dreaming of rafting on the Vjosa, one of Europe’s last wild rivers. And we did it with a local agency! It’s beautiful, accessible to everyone, not too physical but still a bit lively—just how we like it. You can even jump into the river in some spots. In Permet, we also hiked through a canyon and visited a lovely little church.

And we took a workshop to make their local culinary pride: gliko. It’s a jam with whole fruits inside. We’d seen it on Goalbania’s site, and it was really fun. We were with a family where the secret to making gliko has been passed down for generations... Next, we headed to Gjirokastër. A city we loved: its old traditional houses (Skendulli and Zekate), its grand castle, the Ali Pasha Bridge. Along the way, we stopped for artisanal ice cream at a little shop run by a grandmother who’s been making it herself for ages.

One afternoon, my husband *had* to go to the coast in the south, to Ksamil (he’d read it was better than Sarandë). Verdict: we didn’t like it. Parking is a nightmare, the beaches are super noisy and crowded. The sea is packed with jet skis, boats, pedalos, and ropes. Avoid it.

On the other hand, we really liked Himarë, where we went next. We stayed at a campsite where we rented tents with mattresses and sheets inside. Right by the sea, on a low cliff (about 2 meters high). You can hear the waves at night... Magical!! To swim, you either jump straight into the sea (almost from the tent) or climb down a ladder, which you’ll need to climb back up to get out.

I was a little worried the campsite wouldn’t be very comfortable, so afterward, I’d booked a small place in Gjilek. Turns out, the place was really tiny (one room for four, no kitchen) and pretty expensive (over 100 € a night). We’d drive to the beach or restaurants—it’s on a steep slope, so not very accessible. Parking near the sea is tricky. But the (private) beaches were nice—we’d rent an umbrella not too close to the music and spend the day there. We also went to a wilder beach, harder to reach, via a long path. Behind the beach, there’s an amazing canyon where we’d sometimes climb using ropes (already in place, no need to bring your own) over big boulders rolled around by the stream, which must swell a lot in spring. So, the sea in Albania: it’s nice if you like swimming and relaxing, but it’s not the most interesting part of the country. There are so many other amazing things to see and discover—so many stunning sites! Maybe an agency could’ve helped us find more practical accommodations and avoid Ksamil and its surroundings. We left the coast to head to the beautiful city of Berat and its "thousand windows." We explored the city, its fortress, and its icon museum.

Then we discovered the Osum Canyon—it’s incredible. The view from the top is breathtaking. And at the bottom, it’s magical. There’s little water in summer, so rafting isn’t an option. We weren’t tempted by the big-tube descent offered by an agency—it looked fun, but the group had 40 people. We preferred hiking on our own as a family of four. We scouted the area on Google Maps... and found where to descend. We walked in the water, then it rose to our waists, then our shoulders... We weren’t moving fast. And how to get back up?? Eventually, we followed a group with a guide—the path was hard to find.

After that unforgettable hike, we visited the Bogovë Waterfalls. It’s pretty, and we swam, but the water was *really* cold. We passed through Tirana again and then headed to Shkodër. We explored a bit—its charming little streets, the Rozafa Fortress. There’s a tiny museum where you can see *huge* Ottoman stone cannonballs. And they tell you the (charming) story of the young woman who was walled alive in the castle’s foundations to ensure its strength... Shkodër is mostly a stopover to head into the mountains and discover Theth. Our goal: hiking in the Valbona Valley, from Valbona to Theth. We organized the trip ourselves, without an agency, but it took some time to figure everything out. So I’ll save you the trouble—haha. Book your tickets on the Komanilakeferry website. The ticket includes: 🙂 minibus transfer from downtown Shkodër to Koman 🙂 ferry ticket from Koman to Fierze. This ferry ride is *gorgeous*—between mountain slopes covered in pine trees, and sometimes a little house with a few fields...

🙂 minibus ticket from Fierze to Valbona. Now you’re in the mountains! The minibus drops you off near your accommodation—pick one as close as possible to the start of the hike (if that’s your goal!). The ones at the far end of the village add up to 1.5 hours of walking. Our choice: Guesthouse Dioni. The host is really lovely, it’s in the woods, and it’s basic but great. After a day of hiking, we arrived in Theth. What beautiful mountains! Then we explored Theth and the surrounding area. It’s pretty busy, but you can still enjoy the Blue Eye of Theth and its swim. It’s *so* cold! But so beautiful!

🙂 minibus ticket from Theth back to Shkodër. After a night in Shkodër, we drove to Kepi i Rodonit. A guidebook (I forget which one) raved about its beauty. And it *is* beautiful!

But the view is ruined by plastic bottles and other trash in the bushes, along the paths, and of course on the beaches. The only peaceful spot: the private beach at Kepi i Rodonit, which is cleaned. You can rent an umbrella and have lunch there. That’s where we spent our last few days—very relaxing. In short... Albania turned out to be perfect for us and our teens!

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Attila 3 weeks ago · ReneVoyageur

Albania in Autumn Colors

A new work assignment means our vacation dates can't stay the same.

We had planned to go to the Canary Islands, but flight prices are skyrocketing with this new holiday schedule.

So, I’m looking for an alternative to Gran Canaria and El Hierro and found two round-trip flights with Wizz Air to Tirana.

398 €, including baggage and seats—perfect!

Plus, the departure and return times are great, which is pretty rare for a low-cost flight!

All that’s left is to rent a car, plan the route, and book accommodations.

With two weeks, we’ll have to make some choices!

Here’s the final itinerary: Shkodra (2 nights), Valbonë (3 nights), Tirana (1 night), Lake Ohrid (1 night), Korçë (1 night), Përmet (1 night), Gjirokastër (1 night), Himarë (2 nights), Berat (2 nights), and Krujë (1 night).

A mix of countryside and small towns, a bit of the Mediterranean, and some mountains!

Late October isn’t the best season, so let’s keep our fingers crossed for the rest...

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6cha38 3 weeks ago

Our family trip from Denver to Yellowstone – a recap

Hi there,

I’m diving into a recap of our loop—pretty classic, really—Denver-Yellowstone-Denver this past summer, from July 24 to August 17. Given the sheer number of trip reports already out there (or in the works), and since I don’t have the writing chops or the photography skills of many of you, I’ll keep it practical—well, I’ll try, at least—to share our take on some of the less-visited parks and spots.

First off, a huge thank you to everyone whose trip reports, blogs, websites, comments, and more helped us put together this itinerary. Looking back, it could’ve been even better optimized: a few disappointments when we missed out on some great discoveries, often because we were short on time. Plenty of reasons to come back to the area!

We’re traveling with our four (almost) teens—18, 16, 14, and nearly 12 years old. To keep the trip enjoyable for everyone, we had to make compromises on both sides: cutting a visit short to spend more time swimming, waking up at dawn, and so on. But logistics also played a big role—things like laundry, grocery shopping, and keeping luggage organized could’ve quickly become time-consuming without a little planning. And honestly, I think we visited every Walmart along the way! Blame it on the lack of fridges in some accommodations and, more importantly, the *very* limited space in the car, which made it impossible to bring a proper cooler. I’ll come back to the car saga later.

For accommodations, this year we alternated between basic cabins in KOA campgrounds and Yellowstone (when staying more than one night in the same place) and hotels. Always with a pool (except in Yellowstone, of course), which let the kids burn off energy—because they always have reserves, even after packed days!—and, let’s be honest, gave us a chance to relax. No Wi-Fi issues either; we all had plans with 25 GB of data (a big thanks to Gilles for the amazing deal at 0.99 €). It worked perfectly, even for texts and calls between phones—no extra charges.

Now, onto our route: as I mentioned, a classic Denver-Yellowstone-Denver loop. To avoid rushing through the parks or spending all our time on the road, we prioritized staying as close to them as possible, with at least two nights in each place. And I’ve got to say, it’s really nice to settle in, even if it’s just for two nights. It also helped us deal with the weather, which wasn’t always great during this trip. The trade-off? With vacation time being limited, some driving days ended up being long. We knew that going in, but since we kept a relaxed pace with no time constraints (don’t ask me for timings—I don’t keep track of the clock on vacation, except in the morning to get everyone up before noon!), we sometimes ended up with marathon days.

With that said, I’ll dive into the trip itself in the next post.

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Attila 3 weeks ago

Storm in the Canary Islands

15 days across Gran Canaria, El Hierro, and a dash of Tenerife under the storm Thérèse!

The planned itinerary will be slightly disrupted...

(The version without discussions is here)

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Bibouns51 3 weeks ago

Off on a winter adventure in the American West!

Day 1 – February 14

We all have two lives. And the second one kicks off the day you realize you only have one, with the determination to spend the time you have left on what truly adds sparkle to your life, Kevin! I like to elegantly introduce a trip with a philosophical quote. First, it gives you the illusion that I’m some kind of deep thinker, and second, it lets me fill up the first few lines of my blank page when I don’t know how to tell you I’m diving back into what really lights up my life: another adventure beyond the horizon! And nearly every other year, like a toxic relationship, my horizon tends to take shape in Uncle Sam’s backyard. And this, despite his cousin Donald calling the shots. Speaking of which, it was partly that impulsive guy who pushed us to be just as impulsive and snag our four flight tickets at a ridiculously low price—a direct result of foreign tourism taking a hit from BetaMax’s repeated antics... Four tickets? Who are the other lucky ones? In this case, our lucky ones are actually lucky ladies: My Flo, always up for exploring the world with me on foot, camelback, or scooter, is obviously in on the fun. The other two seats went to our daughters, Sasha and Luna, both thrilled to be part of this new American adventure...

But what’s the American West like in February?... A gamble. Let’s call it Russian roulette since we’re not landing during peak weather season. That’s why we encouraged our transportation and accommodation to get cozy and produce a little camper van, so we can stay ultra-flexible in the face of any weather tantrums. We’ll be roaming in Kara the van with the motto "Follow the sun!" Bad weather? We bolt. Snow? We speed up. Sunny? We act like it was the plan all along and soak it up.

"Okay, but why keep coming back to the same corner of the globe? After ten American adventures, you must be tired of seeing the same things, right?" But I’m not crazy, you know!... The American West is like making love to your gorgeous wife over and over, always enjoying it just as much. And contrary to what you might think, the American West isn’t just the Grand Canyon, Monument Valley, Las Vegas, and Bryce Canyon. Proof is, after ten trips to the U.S., my retinas are still untouched by three-quarters of the places I scribbled on a napkin for this adventure... Oh, and add to that my wife, who I’ve easily converted to my religion, and boom... relapse is even easier! Because yes, we’ve landed in Los Angeles after a sunny flight over Greenland, still under Danish flag for now. And we’re already heading east through the XXL traffic of L.A.’s eight-lane highways, eager to dive into our first discoveries. But first, night is taking over the sky, and second, we’ve been officially awake for 24 hours, so I suggest wrapping up this intro. I’ll tell you more tomorrow morning. Sound good?

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Montagnard74 3 weeks ago

CAPE VERDE 2025: 3 weeks, 4 islands.

And we still haven’t seen everything! Before setting off for new horizons at the end of this year, it’s time for me to share my trip to Cape Verde this summer 2025.

I particularly love these spontaneous trips, and our stay in Cape Verde is one of those because it was only at the beginning of April that we decided on this getaway, which had been catching our eye for a while, given our love for the mountains.

As always—well, when it’s open—I turned to VF, and I want to immediately thank Marie, aka ptitortue, who helped me a lot in planning this trip through her travel journals and our exchanges!

Because Cape Verde is both small and vast! We decided not to rush from one airport to another, to enjoy the places and the people, but also to relax, since the work backlog from being stuck in May (see my previous travel journal 😅) had to be caught up on in June.

So, 4 islands will be our winners from 06/28 to 07/19:

Santiago first for logistical reasons, as round-trip flights from the capital Praia were the cheapest (650 €/person from Lyon via Lisbon with TAP, still!)

São Vicente, because it’s the gateway to the next one but ultimately more than that...

Santo Antão, pretty much the main goal of the trip since Marie (and the photos) had really sold it to me.

And finally, Sal Island, for some rest—a non-negotiable condition for my other half—and we’ll see that I should’ve listened to Marie...

That said, what a chatterbox I am—buckle up, flight attendants at the doors, off we go on new beautiful escapes! (Thanks to Sophie for the easy loan)

Last note for my eager fan club 😏: yes, there will be alcohol—how could there not be in the land of grogue!

It starts here:

https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=10790234;a=10790234

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Songsam 4 weeks ago

Far from the daily grind*

Hello, Since I enjoy not only the countryside but also everything related to rail travel, I’m starting this photo thread dedicated to trains in Thailand (I’d guess most of us have taken one at some point...). Feel free to post your pictures here as long as they fit the theme: rolling stock**, stations**, platforms, tracks (even without a train on them), technical equipment, engineering structures (bridges, viaducts), etc.—all in Thailand. For each photo, I’ll (or you can) note the station or line where it was taken. Comments and questions are welcome.

* train ** interiors or exteriors

All aboard!

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Jojoone1 4 weeks ago

From the Awakening to Travel to Morocco in the 90s

As I’ve mentioned elsewhere, I inherited my love of travel from my parents and some of my grandparents. A strong passion, but one that was unfortunately limited by our family’s modest resources. Back then, living in northern Alsace, a simple trip to the southern part of the region—with the Wine Route as our destination—felt like an extraordinary journey to a land of plenty for the little boy I was in the late 60s and early 70s. Everything seemed so huge when you were still just a kid. Back then, I was overwhelmed by countless sensations—I was already highly sensitive, with a keen mind and a nose and taste buds that were developing like a pro’s. Which, as I’d later realize, wasn’t always an advantage.

Those magical days always began with a gentle late-spring or midsummer morning. The interior of the white Peugeot 404, license plate 210 LZ 67, had already soaked up the sun before the engine purred to life, and the cabin gave off a scent I could still recognize today—a fragrance I found so pleasant. Back then, I had no idea it was just the smell of warm plastic from the car’s interior. Yes, the scents of the 404 on sunny days became my madeleine de Proust... What’s more, the whole family was unusually cheerful because those moments of relaxation and leisure were rare. Everyone worked, and no one had an easy job or was well paid. Without the *Trente Glorieuses*, these experiences might never have happened.

Once we crossed the canton’s borders, I felt like I was light-years away from my everyday surroundings, and every kilometer plunged me deeper into *terra incognita*. It was thrilling. Far from my so-called "medium-sized" town, wheat fields, cornfields, and cabbage patches stretched out, punctuated by tall poles connected by long wires and topped with vegetation—like giant clotheslines without laundry, where magical beanstalks might grow to touch the sky. Back then, I was still far from tasting their product, which was simply beer. At the time, there was still a significant local hop production. Fun fact: it wasn’t until 2002 that Anglo-Saxon scientists proved hops and cannabis belong to the same biological family.

After the fields, the landscape took another step up as it rolled past the little boy’s eyes, often glued to the windows. First came modest hills, then a succession of rolling slopes that soon formed an unbroken chain. Their 700 meters in altitude felt like Himalayan peaks to me—impressive, inert giants, a whole new world. Gazing at them, an intense emotion welled up somewhere between my stomach and lungs, nearly taking my breath away. What mysteries, what treasures did these heights hold? And then there were the cherries on top—the crowning touch that made the scene even more magical: proud, majestic castles perched on the summits like impassive sentinels. Monuments from the past, yet firmly rooted in the present on their rocky spurs. The little boy’s eyes sparkled—he’d been given a castle for Christmas, complete with battlements, towers, a drawbridge, and fully armed knights. He’d watched and lived *Ivanhoe* on the only French TV channel that existed back then.

Only once did my paternal grandfather join us on one of these trips. A tall, intelligent man with a face that could shift from stern to mischievous, clearly full of humor and charisma. Sadly, his relationship with alcohol had taken a toll on his life and, by extension, those of his loved ones. He had a strong personality—if his boss crossed the line, he wouldn’t hesitate to punch him, which meant he went through a lot of different jobs. Back then, you could quit one job and easily find another. It was quite something to see him in his final stages, hallucinating pink elephants and even drinking perfume when he had nothing else left. The last time I saw him, he’d slipped away from the doctors and nurses while hospitalized in pretty bad shape—at least, I assume his liver was the issue. We were sitting down for a family lunch when the door burst open, and there he stood in his pajamas, eyes twinkling with mischief, clearly pleased with the dramatic entrance. That theatrical moment didn’t spare us from burying him a few months later at the age of 71. One day, my mother told me the family doctor had quietly remarked that it was a shame—with his robust constitution, he could’ve lived to be a hundred. Yes, the family doctor—this was the man who’d come treat you any day, at almost any hour, just for a phone call. It really existed, it’s not a myth!

That day, his wife—my paternal grandmother—was also along for the ride. Everyone agreed that Jeannette was a good woman. She worked as a waitress at *Le Tigre*, the biggest brasserie in town, right in the center. Most customers preferred to be served by her, including local dignitaries and even the mayor. As a kid, I didn’t find her very fun, open, or warm—she seemed a bit stern. Back then, women in their fifties already had the face and build of grandmothers. Same went for men, don’t get me wrong. I had no idea about the struggles she faced because of her husband. I didn’t know that 30 years earlier, she’d had to flee Alsace while pregnant, under threat from Nazi fighter-bombers. I didn’t know she’d had several miscarriages, and that my father—her only surviving child, born prematurely in March 1940 at the other end of France—weighed less than a kilo at birth and was so tiny he could fit in a shoebox. Hard to imagine he’d grow into a strapping man nearly 1.80 meters tall, tipping the scales at 100 kilos. When you come back from summer camp in early August and ask why she didn’t pick you up with your parents, and they gently tell you she’s "in heaven," you don’t realize she passed away at 54 after suffering greatly from stomach cancer that had spread.

Back to that family outing, that enchanted parenthesis. I even remembered where we’d had lunch when I passed through Dambach-la-Ville decades later. One of those charming, flower-filled towns Alsace produces in abundance—and preserves so well. This one sits high on a hill, and I was a bit stunned on the parking lot because the view stretched far, revealing the Alsace plain below—its fields, villages, hills, and forests. The world seemed so vast and enticing that day, even though I was only glimpsing a tiny fraction of it.

The region was already very touristy, but I wouldn’t notice the downsides until much later. That Sunday noon, I discovered a large restaurant filled with diners. I can still see the enormous piece of meat they served me, decorated with a little wooden skewer topped with a flag. I kept that one for a long time. Those were the golden days of rich, flowing, thick sauces—so flavorful—and the era of the world’s best fries, made on the spot with the best potatoes. To top it off, I was *exceptionally* allowed a small bottle of apple juice, Orangina, or—even better if possible—Sinalco. Yes, Sinalco—like Orangina, but better. A brand that must’ve disappeared in the 70s, but why, and what a shame! Since then, Orangina’s little bubbles have taken the brand to the other side of the planet—it’s now Japanese.

Year after year, I’d eagerly await that ecstatic moment when the most beautiful castle in Alsace, the Haut-Koenigsbourg, appeared in my field of vision. The perfect model, the archetype that blended into the landscape at the height of a child’s dreams. The trip home always felt like a reality check—less jarring than an alarm clock, but more diffuse and melancholic. From then on, there was only one wish: *When do we leave again?*

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Elis 4 weeks ago · Djalma

9-Day Trek in the Balkans

Hi there, Here’s a recap of a trek through the Balkans covering three countries: Albania, Montenegro, and Kosovo. I was with a friend, and we didn’t do the full route (only one day in Kosovo). It was a wonderful trek through snow-capped mountains and vast flower-filled meadows, meeting incredibly welcoming people. At the end of the travel journal, I’ll share what I loved and what I liked less.

Day 1: Flight from Paris-Beauvais to Tirana with Wizz Air.

Since Albania isn’t part of Europe when it comes to phone service (at least not yet! :-)), we had to buy a physical SIM card—otherwise, the bill would’ve been sky-high if we’d used our French plan! We got one from Vodafone AL at the airport. You can buy online before leaving with a virtual SIM (e-SIM) for compatible phones, so you don’t have to swap cards. But given the uncertainty about choosing a plan online, we preferred buying one directly at Tirana Airport. Cost: 31 € for 100 GB. That’s way too much—100 GB is overkill. For 40 GB, it’s 27 €, and the plan lasts 21 days. The price difference isn’t huge, and it was cheaper than online. This plan covers all the countries along the Balkan range. Money tip: All guesthouses and accommodations accept euros. The local currency in Albania is the LEK. In Montenegro, it’s the euro. Bank fees for withdrawing money from an ATM in Albania are pretty steep: 8 € for a withdrawal of 600–700 LEK (about 200 €)! So it’s better to withdraw cash (euros) in France. Oh, and we booked all our accommodations before leaving, but payment is always in cash. Budget around 400–500 € for 9 days of trekking.

Then, a transfer the same day to Shköder, about a 2-hour bus ride. Cost: 10 € per person. Tickets bought directly on the bus. We spent the night in Shköder at a very clean guesthouse, Open Doors B&B. It had a small balcony overlooking the city.

I really liked Shköder, especially its pedestrian street lined with restaurants and lit up at night. It’s a great place to stroll and eat. The food isn’t expensive—two big salads and two beers: 14 € :-) . Fruit prices are also very reasonable: 3 € for a kilo of cherries, compared to 9–10 € in France. Religions coexist peacefully in these countries—Catholics and Muslims. From our balcony, my friend heard the call to prayer for the first time, coming from one of the city’s mosques.

Day 2: Bus ride to Theth, about 1,100 meters in elevation gain, the starting point for our hike the next day.

The trip took 2 hours and 40 minutes with a break in the middle. The bus was affordable, but taxis also make the trip—though they’re very expensive.

We slept in the heights of Theth at a new guesthouse, "Mountain Vista Shkafi," with an amazing view.

The family was adorable. The husband is a handyman and built almost everything himself. Their baby is named "Sky"—such a cute name, right? :-) Throughout the trek, I found the guesthouses very clean, and the hosts think of everything—no need to bring soap or shampoo; they provide it. Lunch in Theth at a traditional restaurant on the main road. We tried "Tave Dheu," an Albanian dish with beef, cabbage (very common), and cottage cheese. Delicious but not quite filling enough. For dessert, a honey cake that was perfectly moist—such a treat! Desserts like this are rare; sometimes they serve watermelon instead. We took a small private bus for 5 € to the "Blue Eye" parking lot, then walked for about 45 minutes to reach a stunning natural site—a kind of lagoon with incredibly blue water. The bravest can swim, but the water’s freezing!

That evening, we dined at "La Montagne Blanche"—excellent! A delightful mix of grilled meats with potatoes and grilled peppers. Some watermelon slices (which I’m not a fan of) and the famous Raki, a brandy served in Turkey and the Balkans! It was my first time drinking brandy "bottoms up." 😉

To be continued... 😉

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DrCarter 4 weeks ago · Djackx67

Two-week family trip to Colombia in August with 8-year-olds

Hi everyone,

I’d like to share my family trip to Colombia with kids aged 8. After spending hours browsing the forum and only having two weeks there, we decided to focus on two regions: the Coffee Zone for one week and the Caribbean coast for another. We traveled from August 8 to 23.

Day 1 – First stop: Bogotá

We arrived in Bogotá in the evening on an Air France flight—nothing to complain about, decent service, comfortable, and on time. However, the first night was a miss. We’d booked a hotel near the airport (Abitel Prime) for convenience, but the soundproofing was almost nonexistent; we heard planes as if we were on the runway. Luckily, exhaustion helped us sleep well anyway.

Day 2 – Off to the Coffee Zone and Salento

The next morning, we headed to the airport for a domestic flight to Pereira with LATAM. No issues: punctual and efficient, and in 30 minutes, we landed in Pereira. The landing already set a different mood: lush valleys, endless plantations, and humid air. We picked up our rental car from Localiza. Unfortunately, the experience wasn’t smooth—the paperwork took forever, and the wait tested our patience. Finally free, we hit the road to Salento, one of Quindío’s gems. We arrived in the late afternoon and discovered a colorful village bustling with artisan shops and cafés. Our first stroll helped us soak in the atmosphere before dinner at Bambú restaurant—a great surprise with careful cooking and local flavors. We spent the night at Casa Serafín, a charming little hotel, nicely decorated and well-located… but unfortunately very noisy.

Day 3 – The magic of Cocora Valley

This was one of the trip’s highlights. We set off early for Cocora Valley, famous for its giant wax palms, Colombia’s emblem. We chose the 12 km loop recommended by the *Routard*. The landscapes were spectacular: towering palms, rivers, suspension bridges. It felt like walking through a postcard. The weather was perfect. That evening, we dined at Barnabé restaurant—pleasant setting, decent food, but the bill was a bit steep for what it was. Back to Casa Serafín.

Day 4 – Coffee and panoramic views

The plan was a visit to Finca El Ocaso. For 1.5 hours, we followed a passionate guide who explained the entire coffee process, from harvest to cup. Very educational, accessible for both kids and adults, all in a stunning setting. The tour was in English for us, and we translated for our kids, who aren’t bilingual yet. In the afternoon, we climbed to Salento’s viewpoint. The valley view was superb. That evening, we ate at Veggie Garden, a simple and pleasant spot that was a nice change from the heavier meals of previous days.

Day 5 – Horseback ride to Santa Rita Waterfall

We booked a horseback ride with Cocora Magic. It was a real success: calm horses, a beautiful trail, mountain and meadow landscapes, and finally the refreshing and wild Santa Rita Waterfall. Without a doubt, one of the best moments of our time in the region. We even got a bonus ride up a 300-meter hill. We then headed to Filandia, less known than Salento but just as charming. We spent the late afternoon enjoying the pool at MuchoSur Filandia. The hotel is beautiful, in an idyllic setting. However, we also had soundproofing issues and could hear our neighbors.

Day 6 – Rainy detour through Filandia and Manizales

Rain caught up with us in the early morning: torrents of water made it impossible to go out. We stayed at the hotel, reading quietly. By noon, the rain let up: a quick walk in Filandia, a quick lunch, then off to Manizales. We chose to stay at El Otoño hot springs. Great choice: as soon as we arrived, we plunged into the hot pools, perfect after hours on the road.

Day 7 – Hiking and hot springs

In the morning, we hiked the Camino de Super Coco (found somewhat randomly on Google). A pleasant trail with mountain views and a peaceful atmosphere. The afternoon was spent in the hotel’s thermal pools, with a short marked hike down to the river. Dinner on-site at the hot springs’ restaurant. A simple but very relaxing day.

Day 8 – Rain, jacuzzi, and games

We continued to Finca Los Alpes. The rain greeted us again, but this time it turned into an asset: nothing like a steaming jacuzzi with a view of the misty mountains. The kids enjoyed the facilities too: mini-golf, ping-pong, billiards. Dinner and night at the hotel, cozy vibes.

Day 9 – Off to the Caribbean coast

Back to the airport to return the car (still a bit long). Flight to Cartagena with Avianca: punctual and comfortable. Upon arrival, we picked up another car and headed straight to the Hyatt Regency, a modern hotel with a pool. That evening, we dined at the hotel—practical after a travel day.

Day 10 – Colonial Cartagena

We set off to explore Cartagena’s old town. It was enchanting: colorful facades, flowered balconies, colonial charm—just magical. However, the heat was stifling and very humid. Afternoon relaxation by the pool. Dinner at Gestlani, a good restaurant in town.

Day 11 – Road to Barú

A hearty breakfast, then one last swim in the pool before heading to Barú. We checked into Las Islas Hotel. The setting was enchanting: wooden cabins nestled in the vegetation, a private beach, turquoise sea, impeccable service. Dinner at the hotel’s restaurant.

Day 12 – Beach and relaxation

A full beach day in Barú. Warm water, white sand, coconut trees, peace and quiet. A real postcard scene with iguanas and birds.

Day 13 – On to Santa Marta

Another morning at the beach before hitting the road to Santa Marta. The drive was a bit long (6 hours), especially with traffic jams in Barranquilla. It was the longest car ride of the trip. We spent the night at Villa María Tayrona, a beautiful place near the park.

Day 14 – Tayrona Park

We left early for Tayrona Park. We entered through **El Zaino**, parked the car, and set off on a hike to La Piscina (about 2 hours). We stopped along the way at Playa Arenilla, a stunning little beach, to rest. Lunch on-site, a swim, then back by 4 PM. The hike was a bit tiring, but the nature was spectacular: dense jungle, the sound of waves, and even a monkey encounter along the way. Evening and dinner at the hotel.

Day 15 – Last swim and return flight to Bogotá

Our last morning was split between the pool and the beach (the hotel has direct access via a 7-minute trail through vegetation and flowers)—hard to leave this paradise. We drove to Santa Marta’s airport to return the car, then flew back to Bogotá. We spent the night at Casa Dann Carlton, a comfortable hotel. We simply ordered room service, arriving too late to go out.

Day 16 – Bogotá and the end of the trip

Our last day in Colombia. After a good breakfast, we explored La Candelaria. Its cobbled streets and colorful houses were worth the visit. We visited the Botero Museum (free) and the Gold Museum, both fascinating. Back to the airport for our 11:55 PM Air France flight.

That’s a wrap on a varied trip—lush mountains, colorful villages, dream beaches, and tropical jungle. The pace was pretty relaxed, well-suited for our kids. They absolutely loved the trip to Colombia. Driving in Colombia was very easy, and we didn’t regret renting a car at all—it gave us more freedom to get around.

If I were to do it again, here’s what I’d change: - I’d spend less time in the Coffee Zone to stay a bit longer on the Caribbean coast, which was more relaxing for the kids. Or I’d head to Medellín, but I didn’t think the city was very kid-friendly. - Bogotá is a city that deserves a day’s visit, but it’s not a must-see. Maybe I’d have taken the KLM flight from Cartagena to Amsterdam instead.

If you have any questions, don’t hesitate!

Antoine

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Gaura 4 weeks ago · Fabhyène

Visiting Bologna in Photos

Since I didn’t have time to write a proper travel journal, I thought I’d share a few photos of Bologna—a really lovely city I discovered in 2017 while stopping on my way to Tuscany. Around Piazza Maggiore, which was packed with a stage and chairs for a show, stands the Basilica of San Petronio, massive and Gothic in style, with an unfinished façade (a common sight in Italy).

Another building near the square:

But Bologna’s real charm lies in its porticoes, which were added to the UNESCO World Heritage list in 2021: 62 km of arcades running along buildings, letting you walk sheltered from the sun or rain. Back in 1288, the city required houses to include private arcades for public use. In the city center, you can stroll under 32 km of porticoes in all sorts of styles—some plain, some ornate—with a strong presence of red tones.

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Muriel18 4 weeks ago

Gran Canaria... a trip that wasn't exactly thrilling

Okay, it wasn’t a total disaster either. Actually, I hesitated before starting this travel journal: is it even worth writing about a holiday that won’t leave an unforgettable memory? In the end, I went for it (there aren’t many recent travel journals about this destination). So, read on... or don’t .

Every time we’ve been to the Canary Islands, it’s been by default (basically: where can we go in winter or early spring when we only have a week—so not too far, not too much jet lag, but with decent weather?).

This time, we had two weeks, but the winter plan kept changing: first Thailand (dropped for personal reasons), then Martinique (dropped because of work leave dates that weren’t up to me), and finally, the Canary Islands.

We’ve already been to Tenerife (which we really liked) and Lanzarote (which we liked a little less). This year, two options: Gran Canaria or one of the smaller islands west of Tenerife (La Palma, or even La Gomera or El Hierro). We chose Gran Canaria... not sure it was the right call! Whose fault is it? Storm Thérèse’s! Yes, Storm Thérèse followed us on arrival, and its effects lasted quite a while. We had to adapt, cancel visits, change activities...

But even without Thérèse...

Saturday 21/03 Departure from Orly at 6:10 AM with Transavia. The plane took off on time and landed a little early, tossed around by strong winds before touching down. It had just rained, but it was (almost) no longer raining.

We quickly picked up our luggage and then the car at the Cicar counter. We got a Seat Arona instead of the Corsa we’d booked. Well, while the driving position didn’t feel great at first (I got used to it), the engine’s smoothness and power were much appreciated on the island’s winding and sometimes steep roads.

It was only 10 AM, and we couldn’t theoretically check into our accommodation until 3 PM (the owner promised to message me if it was ready earlier). So, we headed to the (big) *Jardín Botánico Viera y Clavijo*, where we planned to spend a few hours. We found a huge parking lot... empty. The passenger in the car in front of us (yes, we weren’t the only ones at the closed gate—there was a car in front and one behind) went to ask for info: it was closed due to the storm 😕. So, we calmly headed toward Puerto de las Nieves, on the northwest coast of the island.

The plan: go to a restaurant, visit the village, and do some shopping while waiting for early afternoon. As soon as we got out of the car, it started raining... we took shelter under the awning of a shop, waiting for it to pass. But the rain turned into a downpour, and within minutes, awning or not, Gore-Tex or not, we were soaked!

Since we were already wet, we might as well go to the restaurant—they weren’t far! But here’s the thing: contrary to what Google Maps said, they all opened at 1 PM, not noon! Back to the car, wading through 5 cm of water because all the village streets were flooded . The rain let up, we did some shopping, went to eat, and I got a message from the owner saying the accommodation was ready 🙂.

So, off we went to La Suerte, a few kilometers north of Agaete. The downside of the place, especially with luggage, is that you have to climb several flights of stairs via an outdoor staircase (after parking more or less far away on a steep street) to get there 😛). Of course, on the way from the car to the apartment, it started pouring again—the bags got soaked! Enough rain for today! We settled in quietly, and by late afternoon, we could (finally!) go admire the view from the terrace.

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Jcpo 4 weeks ago · AlineP

A Week in Lanzarote in Late September

Lanzarote Travel Journal

Trip Planning My partner and I are heading to the Canary Islands for a week at the end of September, specifically to Lanzarote. We chose this island over the more crowded ones for its volcanic landscape and the variety of hikes it offers. I booked everything through Expedia: our hotel stay, car rental, and Ryanair flight tickets departing from Marseille. It was the only way to get a direct flight. To make getting around easier during our stay, I picked a hotel located in the center of the island from the wide selection available. It’s part of the Barceló chain, specifically the "Barceló Teguise Beach Adults Only" in Teguise Beach, which turned out to be an excellent choice.

The Trip

Sunday, September 21 - Monday, September 22 Departure It’s 2:15 PM, and we’re at the Avignon TGV station. Danielle picked us up earlier due to the weather—thunderstorms and heavy rain all the way to the station. The TGV was on time, and it only took 30 minutes to reach Marseille Saint-Charles. The shuttle to the airport is quick and convenient, right behind the station. The bus leaves for the airport in the middle of the storm, with flooded roads and cars stuck in some spots. We get soaked making our way to the terminal. Two hours to wait before the flight. The plane finally takes off at midnight, but just before landing, the pilot announces that the destination airport is closed, and we’re being diverted to Tenerife. Ryanair will re-route us as soon as possible. We end up waiting 2 hours, and Ryanair kindly gives us a 4 € voucher. We re-board around 5:15 AM and take off at 6:00 AM. About 45 minutes to reach Lanzarote. After collecting our luggage, we head to the car rental desk. The counter in the terminal is closed, and we’re directed to parking lot P4—it takes us a while to find it. I’m a bit worried about the rental company’s reaction since the car was supposed to be picked up 7 hours earlier, but it’s not a problem. A woman next to us is furious because she’s in the same situation, and her rental was canceled. Anne-Marie translates for her, but nothing changes. We pick up a brand-new Toyota Aigo and head to the hotel. After checking in, we cross the garden, walking alongside the large pool to reach our room. A lovely first-floor room with a jacuzzi and a sea view. It’s early, so we head to breakfast—a generously stocked and varied buffet with everything you could want. Afterward, we drive to Cueva de los Verdes, but it’s packed with people and a long wait. We decide to come back another day. Next, we visit Mirador Del Rio. This rocky viewpoint at the edge of the island has breathtaking cliffs plunging 500 meters into the ocean. The view is stunning and impressive. A panoramic bar lets you cool off while enjoying the scenery. We return to the hotel for a short walk around the neighborhood and enjoy the beautiful pool with its pleasant water temperature. Relaxing by the pool, sun loungers, and all. In the evening, a very varied buffet at the restaurant. Then early to bed to recover from the sleepless night before.

Tuesday, September 23 After a restful night, we enjoy another varied and hearty breakfast. The terrace seating is very pleasant. We take an inland road leading to Timanfaya National Park. The road near the park runs alongside vineyards where the vines are surrounded by lava stone walls to protect them from the prevailing winds. Our first stop is at the visitor center, where the island’s volcanic activity is well-documented. Next, we stop at an area where you can take a short camel ride—two seats are installed on either side of the camel’s hump. This little ride offers a great view of the volcanic landscape from a higher vantage point. A fair price of 11 € per seat for a 20-minute ride. We then head to the park entrance via the road leading to the parking lot, where only authorized buses can take the winding route inside the park. It’s crowded, and we wait about 45 minutes with several stops before reaching the parking lot. We board the bus, and the route offers beautiful views of this volcanic area and its many craters. The journey is very interesting, with several stops for photos. At the parking lot, a guide shows us how the heat from the rocks beneath the surface can ignite dry vegetation. Water poured into holes in the ground immediately creates geysers and jets of steam. The building next to the parking lot has a restaurant where meat is cooked using the heat from a well dug into the volcanic rock. On our way back, we drive to Playa Blanca, a seaside town with a small sandy beach.

Back at the hotel in the late afternoon for dinner.

Wednesday, September 24 We wake up early and have a quick breakfast—few people are around at this hour. Two days ago, we booked a 10:00 AM visit to Los Verdes, lava tunnels created by eruptions and lava flows from the La Corona volcano, which extended all the way to the coast. When the lava came into contact with the air, it solidified on the surface while continuing to flow underneath. The lava tunnels stretch for 8 kilometers to the volcano, but we only walk one kilometer. The inside of the tunnel is impressive, with narrow passages and larger chambers. You can see traces left by the flowing liquid lava—varied colors and twisted shapes. At the end of the path, a large chamber has been turned into a concert hall with perfect acoustics. Next, we visit Jameo Del Agua. This is a continuation of the lava tunnel, developed by Manrique. There are beautifully designed bar and restaurant areas, as well as an underground lake where you can see small blind white crabs—a protected species in this very pure water. Higher up, there’s a lovely space with a central pool that could double as a swimming area, surrounded by beautifully designed white pathways that contrast with the blue water. Further on, you reach a large space inside the lava tunnel, set up as a performance hall with perfect acoustics. Stairs let you view this beautiful space from above. A gap in the lava landscape reveals the ocean on the horizon. We head back toward the village of Yé, at the foot of the La Corona volcano. A 160-meter walk from the church, a path crosses vineyard plots and then climbs to the top of the volcano’s crater in about 30 minutes. It’s the island’s highest volcano. When you reach the edge of the crater, you see how deep it is, with steep slopes inside forming a large circular opening. The place is breathtaking and awe-inspiring. We drive back to the hotel via a road that climbs quickly, offering a beautiful view of the island’s northern part.

Thursday, September 25 After another enjoyable and varied breakfast, we head to the center of the island toward the volcano park and stop at a roadside parking lot where a path leads to the Montana Cuervo volcano. This is a crater that opened on one side. During an eruption, an explosion created a breach in the crater. Huge blocks of rock were thrown dozens of meters away. The path goes through the breach and descends into the crater, allowing you to walk around it. It’s impressive, and you really feel small and fragile in this environment. The crater walls, with their different colors, highlight the rock formations. The crater is surrounded by a sea of lava with sharp, jagged rocks. You can walk around the outside of the crater, but it’s not very interesting. We then head to the west coast, stopping at a spot with a small green lake next to a beautiful black sand beach. Next, we stop at Salinas de Janubio, a lovely viewpoint overlooking the salt marshes with different water colors. A small shop sells various local products. We then head to the famous Papagayo beach. The road ends at a booth where they charge 3 € to continue. From here, the land is private, and you have to pay to drive down a 3-kilometer rocky dirt road. Quite a few cars are driving along it, kicking up clouds of dust. The car gets a dusty makeover. We arrive at a large parking area, with several paths leading to different small beaches. We go to Papagayo, a small blonde sand beach surrounded by red rocks. The beach slopes gently into the water, which is a pleasant temperature. The setting is charming and peaceful. We stay for a while before heading back to the hotel.

Friday, September 26 We start with a visit to the César Manrique Foundation in Tahiche. This was originally one of his homes. The modern construction spans several levels and is integrated into the lava flow, using the gaps to create living spaces. Large windows make the rooms bright and open to the scenery. The place is pleasant, with flower-filled gardens outside. It’s well worth a visit. Next, we drive to Las Grietas, where a path leads to a narrow crack in the volcanic rock, forming a tight passage where only one person can walk at a time. The passage isn’t very long, but progress is slow due to the endless selfies being taken here. We then stop at Casa Del Camposino, a renovated farm that houses several artisan shops. We taste a local wine recommended by a charming woman and buy two bottles of Lanzarote red wine on her advice. Now, we head to Tamara beach, a beautiful and wide beach at the foot of high cliffs. There are always great waves here, making it a surfer’s paradise. On the way back to the hotel, we stop at the cactus garden, César Manrique’s final creation. Designed with a great sense of aesthetics around an old windmill, it features 4,500 varieties of cacti in various shapes, all in a beautiful setting. We return to the hotel in the late afternoon for the evening.

Saturday, September 27 After another hearty breakfast, we head north to Haria. We stumble upon another of César Manrique’s homes, where he lived for a long time. This house is more traditional than the previous one but still has large, modern, and very pleasant rooms. At the back of the garden is his large studio, where he created his works. Next, we visit the craft market—this was our original plan. Various stalls offer local items, and it’s very crowded. No room at the café terraces to sit down. We then return to Famara beach for a long stay. There are always great waves here, much to the surfers’ delight. The water temperature is pleasant, and we enjoy it. On the way back to the hotel, we stop at a gas station to refill the car, which has been very fuel-efficient. Gas is also much cheaper here than in France—1.16 € per liter of SP95. We also wash the car, which was very dusty after the long dirt road to Papagayo beach. At the hotel, we enjoy a farewell cocktail before dinner.

Sunday, September 28 We spend the morning by the hotel pool before checking out at noon. For lunch, we go to a restaurant called "Dona Lola," near the hotel, with a terrace offering a view of the coast. We order tuna carpaccio, which is delicious. We then head to the airport, just 15 minutes away. We return the rental car and go to the airport. A long line to check in our luggage. The return flight is on time. A shuttle bus takes us to Saint-Charles station. We then head to our overnight rental. The boulevard slopes down, making it easier with the suitcases. The rental is between the old port and the train station. Once there, we pick up the keys and make one last effort to carry the luggage up to the third floor. The studio is nice, clean, and simply equipped—perfect for one night.

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Puma2A 4 weeks ago

In MIKUMI and SELOUS, Southern Tanzania (June 2024)

Hi everyone,

I’m a newbie to this forum, passionate about wildlife, the landscapes of East Africa, and Tanzania in particular. This June 2024 trip/safari is our 7th visit to Tanzania and our 5th in the south, which has drawn us more than the north ever since we discovered it in 2015.

In 2024, the entrance fees for the reserves and services have gone up again since our last visit. I chose to return first to Mikumi Reserve, which was the very first one we visited in the south. Then, we’ll head to Selous (J. Nyerere N. P.) as usual. Initially, we wanted to spend 2/3 days on Mafia Island at the end of the trip, but it made the total cost too high, so we gave up... We usually go to Ruaha and Selous, but I wanted to mix it up a bit—also to save some money...

As for the timing, June is a new experience for us. I thought it might be interesting to come just after the lodges reopen... hoping for some great wildlife encounters??

The trip starts in Marseille with our first flight on Ethiopian Airlines to Addis Ababa, then continues to Dar es Salaam, where we’ll finally set foot on Tanzanian soil again.

In Addis... "our" A-350.

.....

After arriving in Dar, we spent one night at a hotel near the airport. The next morning, we headed to the domestic flights terminal, which hasn’t changed in years.

By mid-morning, we boarded a Cessna 208B Caravan with Safari Air Link, heading to the Kikoboga bush airstrip in Mikumi, which we reached 45 minutes later. Fun fact: the pilot was the same one as on our return flight two years ago.

Welcome on board:

Of course, a driver/guide team from our chosen lodge was waiting for us upon arrival:

I was surprised to see so many aircraft parked there... even twin-engine Embraer Brasilias?? As a fan of vintage planes, I loved it...

On the other hand, the light was incredibly harsh.....!! Our guides only speak English. We knew that in advance. In the south, it’s very rare to find someone who speaks French. This’ll force us to dig into our high school English memories... from 60 years ago... at least.

It’s noon, and we head toward the lodge. Near the airstrip, next to the Mikumi rangers’ base, there are quite a few herbivores. They find a bit more peace here—the big cats don’t venture this way...

Our first encounter was a group of Masai giraffes.

Rarer (for us), a savanna monitor lizard basking in the sun right in the middle of the track...??

A large gathering of impalas (mostly males) along with a few blue wildebeest:

Also unusual: a African crowned hornbill taking a dust bath in the middle of the track...!!

When it comes to identifying mammals or birds, I don’t know everything... so I might make mistakes. Please forgive me. I’m counting on my friend Blesl’s active participation... 😉

...

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