Destination originale..... la Namibie 2012, avis sur circuit?
by Boulwai
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Les boules, hein!
Idem pour la frontière à Dobe: va falloir vider le frigo avant
Sans être lourd, à Ghanzi, il vendent de la daube de kudu, déjà cuite, qui aurait pu dépanner, mais bon c'est pas ta route😛
comme on devrait dormir à Tsumkwe après la frontière, y a t il un endroit où faire des courses à Tsumkwe.
Va voir les bushmen de Naye-Naye, ils devraient pouvoir te fournir en boucané. Et puis, deux jours de végétarisme, ça adoucit les moeurs😏!
Bon, d'accord, je m'en vais.🏴☠️
Idem pour la frontière à Dobe: va falloir vider le frigo avant
Sans être lourd, à Ghanzi, il vendent de la daube de kudu, déjà cuite, qui aurait pu dépanner, mais bon c'est pas ta route😛
comme on devrait dormir à Tsumkwe après la frontière, y a t il un endroit où faire des courses à Tsumkwe.
Va voir les bushmen de Naye-Naye, ils devraient pouvoir te fournir en boucané. Et puis, deux jours de végétarisme, ça adoucit les moeurs😏!
Bon, d'accord, je m'en vais.🏴☠️
Il y a sûrement moyen de trouver de la viande quand même. Sinon, tu peux chasser le koudou. Tiens moi au courant de ton montage de business à Tsumkwe ! 😉
Sans aller jusqu'au koudou, on se satisferait bien d'un petit dik-dik aux yeux de biche!!! Aller, je monte ma boîte aux environs de Tsumkwe, j'ai déjà le nom: "Carnivore Hall"😛
Mais bon sang, comment qu'ils font tous les gens qui passent dans le coin? Y a quand même pas que moi comme "viandivore" invétéré qui zone dans ces coins-là!
Sans aller jusqu'au koudou, on se satisferait bien d'un petit dik-dik aux yeux de biche!!! Aller, je monte ma boîte aux environs de Tsumkwe, j'ai déjà le nom: "Carnivore Hall"😛
Mais bon sang, comment qu'ils font tous les gens qui passent dans le coin? Y a quand même pas que moi comme "viandivore" invétéré qui zone dans ces coins-là!
Rêver est déjà un beau voyage.
Tiens pour le point 3, c'est le trait rouge juste avant Etosha. Il n'y en a pas plus au Nord.
Merci Pierre, c'est noté. N'empêche qu'ils sont embêtants avec leurs barrières vétérinaires. Et là, si ma mémoire est bonne, le plus proche pour les courses ça doit être Tsumeb non? Embêtant ça, parcequ'on doit passer par Tsintsabis.
Merci Pierre, c'est noté. N'empêche qu'ils sont embêtants avec leurs barrières vétérinaires. Et là, si ma mémoire est bonne, le plus proche pour les courses ça doit être Tsumeb non? Embêtant ça, parcequ'on doit passer par Tsintsabis.
Rêver est déjà un beau voyage.
Mais bon sang
T'es gravement atteint quand même🏴☠️!
T'es gravement atteint quand même🏴☠️!
Merci Pierre, c'est noté. N'empêche qu'ils sont embêtants avec leurs barrières vétérinaires.
Sinon tu t'arrêtes 10 km avant le contrôle, tu mets la viande fraîche sous les sièges.
"Non Monsieur, je n'ai pas de viande" 😇
10 km plus loin, tu la remets dans le frigo… Je n'ai jamais pratiqué cette méthode mais certains le font…
Sinon tu t'arrêtes 10 km avant le contrôle, tu mets la viande fraîche sous les sièges.
"Non Monsieur, je n'ai pas de viande" 😇
10 km plus loin, tu la remets dans le frigo… Je n'ai jamais pratiqué cette méthode mais certains le font…
Les boules, hein!
Idem pour la frontière à Dobe: va falloir vider le frigo avant
Sans être lourd, à Ghanzi, il vendent de la daube de kudu, déjà cuite, qui aurait pu dépanner, mais bon c'est pas ta route😛
Au fait, ce ne serait pas de là que serait issu le doberman? Voyajou, là t'es pas lourd, t'es carrément............ ignoble! Le pire dans cette histoire, c'est que si jamais je n'arrive pas à trouver de la bonne chair fraîche et que je sois dans l'obligation de me taper des conserves et que je vais penser à cette fameuse carte de Ghanzi, je ne t'explique pas l'humeur de votre serviteur!!!!!😎
Et puis, deux jours de végétarisme, ça adoucit les moeurs😏!
J'y ai pas droit!😇
Me demande si je ne vais pas revoir mon circuit moi!!!!🤪
Idem pour la frontière à Dobe: va falloir vider le frigo avant
Sans être lourd, à Ghanzi, il vendent de la daube de kudu, déjà cuite, qui aurait pu dépanner, mais bon c'est pas ta route😛Au fait, ce ne serait pas de là que serait issu le doberman? Voyajou, là t'es pas lourd, t'es carrément............ ignoble! Le pire dans cette histoire, c'est que si jamais je n'arrive pas à trouver de la bonne chair fraîche et que je sois dans l'obligation de me taper des conserves et que je vais penser à cette fameuse carte de Ghanzi, je ne t'explique pas l'humeur de votre serviteur!!!!!😎
Et puis, deux jours de végétarisme, ça adoucit les moeurs😏!
J'y ai pas droit!😇
Me demande si je ne vais pas revoir mon circuit moi!!!!🤪
Rêver est déjà un beau voyage.
Mais bon sang, comment qu'ils font tous les gens qui passent dans le coin? Y a quand même pas que moi comme "viandivore" invétéré qui zone dans ces coins-là!
Mais personne ne passe dans ces coins là 😛 ou très peu 😉
je crois que si tu veux faire fortune ce n'est pas là qu'il faut implanter ton business 😏 😏
Mais personne ne passe dans ces coins là 😛 ou très peu 😉
je crois que si tu veux faire fortune ce n'est pas là qu'il faut implanter ton business 😏 😏
Botswana Zimbabwe 2011
Namibie 2012
Mais personne ne passe dans ces coins là
Eh ouais, tout le monde passe par Gh... Bon salut, j'vais travailler.
Eh ouais, tout le monde passe par Gh... Bon salut, j'vais travailler.
Aller, je monte ma boîte aux environs de Tsumkwe, j'ai déjà le nom: "Carnivore Hall"😛
http://www.wpi.edu/...kills_Assessment.pdf Regarde pages 22 / 23 😏😏😏😏😏😏
http://www.wpi.edu/...kills_Assessment.pdf Regarde pages 22 / 23 😏😏😏😏😏😏
Didiou Pierre, t'as trouvé ça où?
"For success, SMEs also need an effective marketing strategy that allows for greater access to customers" Aller, je lance ma PME à Tsumkwe et je commence mon plan marketing auprès des "namidépendants"😉. Euh..... vous croyez que je pourrais m'y lancer avec le statut d'auto-entrepreneur?😄
"For success, SMEs also need an effective marketing strategy that allows for greater access to customers" Aller, je lance ma PME à Tsumkwe et je commence mon plan marketing auprès des "namidépendants"😉. Euh..... vous croyez que je pourrais m'y lancer avec le statut d'auto-entrepreneur?😄
Rêver est déjà un beau voyage.
Bon, et si je passe une chèvre vivante ou un oryx ou springbok ou un crocodile attaché au pare choc..... j'ai le droit ça
🙂 elle est pas mal celle-là ... hi, hi, hi
Sinon il ne te reste plus que les insectes et autres serpents à griller sur ton braïi 😛
a+
Max
🙂 elle est pas mal celle-là ... hi, hi, hi
Sinon il ne te reste plus que les insectes et autres serpents à griller sur ton braïi 😛
a+
Max
Sinon il ne te reste plus que les insectes et autres serpents à griller sur ton braïi 😛
Serpent à la sauce de soja sur braises accompagné d'un meli melo de bousiers marinés dans leur jus..... hop hop , un premier plat du jour de ma future carte dans mon futur bar-resto-supermarché-quincaillerie-plomberie à Tsumkwe!!!!😄 Y a déjà des amateurs?
Serpent à la sauce de soja sur braises accompagné d'un meli melo de bousiers marinés dans leur jus..... hop hop , un premier plat du jour de ma future carte dans mon futur bar-resto-supermarché-quincaillerie-plomberie à Tsumkwe!!!!😄 Y a déjà des amateurs?
Rêver est déjà un beau voyage.
Dis donc, tu sembles en connaître une tranche en spécialités traditionnelles locales!
Je me demande finalement si la carte du Thakadu (Ghanzi), ne serait pas trop sophistiquée pour un palais averti comme le tien.😏
Bonjour,
Qlq infos sur Swamp stop http://www.okavangopanhandle.com/
et dans le Bradt
Au-delà de la barrière vétérinaire des infos sur Etsha et un camp (Makwena camp )
Bonne débrouille pour la bidoche ! 🙂😉
Qlq infos sur Swamp stop http://www.okavangopanhandle.com/
et dans le Bradt
Au-delà de la barrière vétérinaire des infos sur Etsha et un camp (Makwena camp )
Bonne débrouille pour la bidoche ! 🙂😉
Michelle
Dis donc, tu sembles en connaître une tranche en spécialités traditionnelles locales!
Je me demande finalement si la carte du Thakadu (Ghanzi), ne serait pas trop sophistiquée pour un palais averti comme le tien.😏
Bah, sans me taper trop fort sur la poitrine, je peux dire que j'aime bien innover un peu en cuisine, faut parfois se lancer sans filet!🤪
Bah, sans me taper trop fort sur la poitrine, je peux dire que j'aime bien innover un peu en cuisine, faut parfois se lancer sans filet!🤪
Rêver est déjà un beau voyage.
Bonjour à tous,
je vous donne qqes nouvelles quant à notre projet qui voit enfin le bout. Nous avons modifié la fin de notre circuit car, en lisant et relisant vos posts et carnets de voyage et avec l'avis du TO, nous avons décidé d'être plus "sages". Je remercie encore les différents intervenants et, même si je donne à certains l'impression de leur avoir fait perdre leur temps en posant plein de questions pour, au final, changer d'avis, je vous assure qu'il n'en est rien puisque nous avons aussi décidé de faire un voyage spécial Botswana dans un futur proche et là, les infos glanées seront très utiles.
Dans cette mouture définitive, nous avons donc supprimé la partie Botswana et remplacé par plus de temps dans le Kaokoland + 2 jours à Etosha.
J1: Réunion-JNB-Wdk J2: Wdk- Mariental J3: Mariental - KTP J4: KTP J5: KTP J6: KTP - Keetmanshoop J7: Keetmanshoop- Fish River J8: Fish River- Tiras J9: Tiras- Barchan Dune J10: Barchan Dune J11: Barchan- Swakopmund J12: Swakopmund J13: Swakop - Twyfelfontein J14: Twyfelfontein - Warmquelle J15: Warmquelle- Purros J16: Purros - bivouac après Orupembe J17: Orupembe- Opuwo J18: Opuwo- Epupa J19: Epupa J20: Epupa- Ruacana J21: Ruacana- Etosha J22: Etosha J23: Etosha- Waterberg J24: Waterberg- Wdk J25: Wdk-Jnb-Réunion
Précisions: J9 et J10 à Barchan ne sont absolument pas des choix logiques puisque nous pourrions aller à Sesriem pour voir les dunes. Nous le ferons, mais à partir de Barchan. C'est un choix du coeur puisque nous souhaitons passer 2 nuits avec nos amis Willhem et Hannetjie.
Voilà donc la dernière mouture et je me réjouis déjà à l'idée d'aller défoncer les 4x4 du côté de Purros qui, d'après ce que j'ai vu dans vos divers carnets, à l'air d'un endroit formidable.
Merci à tous pour votre patience.
Laurent
J1: Réunion-JNB-Wdk J2: Wdk- Mariental J3: Mariental - KTP J4: KTP J5: KTP J6: KTP - Keetmanshoop J7: Keetmanshoop- Fish River J8: Fish River- Tiras J9: Tiras- Barchan Dune J10: Barchan Dune J11: Barchan- Swakopmund J12: Swakopmund J13: Swakop - Twyfelfontein J14: Twyfelfontein - Warmquelle J15: Warmquelle- Purros J16: Purros - bivouac après Orupembe J17: Orupembe- Opuwo J18: Opuwo- Epupa J19: Epupa J20: Epupa- Ruacana J21: Ruacana- Etosha J22: Etosha J23: Etosha- Waterberg J24: Waterberg- Wdk J25: Wdk-Jnb-Réunion
Précisions: J9 et J10 à Barchan ne sont absolument pas des choix logiques puisque nous pourrions aller à Sesriem pour voir les dunes. Nous le ferons, mais à partir de Barchan. C'est un choix du coeur puisque nous souhaitons passer 2 nuits avec nos amis Willhem et Hannetjie.
Voilà donc la dernière mouture et je me réjouis déjà à l'idée d'aller défoncer les 4x4 du côté de Purros qui, d'après ce que j'ai vu dans vos divers carnets, à l'air d'un endroit formidable.
Merci à tous pour votre patience.
Laurent
Rêver est déjà un beau voyage.
Salut,
Ça tient la route ton itinéraire !
J6 : tu vas dormir où au Fish River Canyon ? J'ai un dilemme assez terrible pour avril prochain dans ce coin pour lequel je n'ai aussi qu'une nuit et j'ai l'impression qu'il m'en manque une…
J16 : Tu penses passer par les lits de rivières ? (pour casser les 4x4 et vous faire piétiner par les éléphants ?)
Plus qu'à attendre juillet alors ?…
Ça tient la route ton itinéraire !
J6 : tu vas dormir où au Fish River Canyon ? J'ai un dilemme assez terrible pour avril prochain dans ce coin pour lequel je n'ai aussi qu'une nuit et j'ai l'impression qu'il m'en manque une…
J16 : Tu penses passer par les lits de rivières ? (pour casser les 4x4 et vous faire piétiner par les éléphants ?)
Plus qu'à attendre juillet alors ?…
Salut Pierre,
J6 : tu vas dormir où au Fish River Canyon ? J'ai un dilemme assez terrible pour avril prochain dans ce coin pour lequel je n'ai aussi qu'une nuit et j'ai l'impression qu'il m'en manque une…
On sera au campsite de Hobas. Au début, on a envisagé 2 jours mais il semblerait que si on ne fait pas la rando, il ne soit pas vraiment utile de rester plus d'une journée.... tu me diras après y être allé😉
J16 : Tu penses passer par les lits de rivières ? (pour casser les 4x4 et vous faire piétiner par les éléphants ?)
Oui, oui, j'aimerai bien, comme j'ai vu dans ton carnet. On envisagera ça sur place. Toutefois, par les lits de rivière, le GPS est-il indispensable? Vu que je n'ai jamais utilisé ce truc, s'il n'est pas nécessaire, autant m'en passer!
Plus qu'à attendre juillet alors ?…
Yes my dear! Tout est réservé ou pré réservé... nous être impatients!🙂
Par contre, va encore falloir que je me penche sur les pb de ravitaillement en viande: apparemment y a des parties d'étapes sur lesquelles on n'aura même pas un kebab à se mettre sous la dent: entre Swakop et Opuwo y a un point ravitaillement?
J6 : tu vas dormir où au Fish River Canyon ? J'ai un dilemme assez terrible pour avril prochain dans ce coin pour lequel je n'ai aussi qu'une nuit et j'ai l'impression qu'il m'en manque une…
On sera au campsite de Hobas. Au début, on a envisagé 2 jours mais il semblerait que si on ne fait pas la rando, il ne soit pas vraiment utile de rester plus d'une journée.... tu me diras après y être allé😉
J16 : Tu penses passer par les lits de rivières ? (pour casser les 4x4 et vous faire piétiner par les éléphants ?)
Oui, oui, j'aimerai bien, comme j'ai vu dans ton carnet. On envisagera ça sur place. Toutefois, par les lits de rivière, le GPS est-il indispensable? Vu que je n'ai jamais utilisé ce truc, s'il n'est pas nécessaire, autant m'en passer!
Plus qu'à attendre juillet alors ?…
Yes my dear! Tout est réservé ou pré réservé... nous être impatients!🙂
Par contre, va encore falloir que je me penche sur les pb de ravitaillement en viande: apparemment y a des parties d'étapes sur lesquelles on n'aura même pas un kebab à se mettre sous la dent: entre Swakop et Opuwo y a un point ravitaillement?
Rêver est déjà un beau voyage.
On sera au campsite de Hobas. Au début, on a envisagé 2 jours mais il semblerait que si on ne fait pas la rando, il ne soit pas vraiment utile de rester plus d'une journée.... tu me diras après y être allé😉
Mon interrogation, c'est qu'avec une seule nuit au canyon, j'ai bien l'impression qu'on n'a pas le temps de faire le tour par le Sud vers Rosh Pinah… Vinny si tu nous lis ?
Oui, oui, j'aimerai bien, comme j'ai vu dans ton carnet. On envisagera ça sur place. Toutefois, par les lits de rivière, le GPS est-il indispensable? Vu que je n'ai jamais utilisé ce truc, s'il n'est pas nécessaire, autant m'en passer!
Je ne suis pas sûr que le GPS soit absolument nécessaire : quand tu es dans le lit de rivière tu ne peux pas te tromper et la piste qui en sort à gauche vers le col se trouve dans la première grande courbe à droite de la rivière. Ceci dit, si tu la rates, il n'y a ni panneaux, ni personne pour t'indiquer le chemin ! Mais j'ai du mal à me rendre compte. J'ai tellement l'habitude d'avoir un GPS comme compagnon de voyage depuis des années…
La bidoche… Il y a un supermarché à Uis (pas testé), sinon rien du tout sans détour vers Khorixas ou Kamanjab. Ceci dit si tu achètes ta viande surgelée ce qui se fait beaucoup en Namibie, tu la mets gelée dans le frigo. 1/ ça soulage le moteur du frigo quand il fait chaud. 2/ 6 ou 7 jours après elle est toujours à moitié gelée et bonne à manger.
Mon interrogation, c'est qu'avec une seule nuit au canyon, j'ai bien l'impression qu'on n'a pas le temps de faire le tour par le Sud vers Rosh Pinah… Vinny si tu nous lis ?
Oui, oui, j'aimerai bien, comme j'ai vu dans ton carnet. On envisagera ça sur place. Toutefois, par les lits de rivière, le GPS est-il indispensable? Vu que je n'ai jamais utilisé ce truc, s'il n'est pas nécessaire, autant m'en passer!
Je ne suis pas sûr que le GPS soit absolument nécessaire : quand tu es dans le lit de rivière tu ne peux pas te tromper et la piste qui en sort à gauche vers le col se trouve dans la première grande courbe à droite de la rivière. Ceci dit, si tu la rates, il n'y a ni panneaux, ni personne pour t'indiquer le chemin ! Mais j'ai du mal à me rendre compte. J'ai tellement l'habitude d'avoir un GPS comme compagnon de voyage depuis des années…
La bidoche… Il y a un supermarché à Uis (pas testé), sinon rien du tout sans détour vers Khorixas ou Kamanjab. Ceci dit si tu achètes ta viande surgelée ce qui se fait beaucoup en Namibie, tu la mets gelée dans le frigo. 1/ ça soulage le moteur du frigo quand il fait chaud. 2/ 6 ou 7 jours après elle est toujours à moitié gelée et bonne à manger.
Mon interrogation, c'est qu'avec une seule nuit au canyon, j'ai bien l'impression qu'on n'a pas le temps de faire le tour par le Sud vers Rosh Pinah… Vinny si tu nous lis ?
je lis mais suis pas sûr de tout comprendre. De mémoire tu viendrais de Aus, c'est bien ça ? D'abord le problème majeur c'est que ce n'est pas sûr que tu puisses passer par le bas au mois d'avril (orange river débordante)
sinon techniquement tu aurais le temps de faire la route pour arriver au canyon ( côté lodges), faire les points de vue en fin d'aprèm et/ou le lendemain matin idem en passant par la B4
l'autre solution c'est take your time et va te poser au Fish River lodge ( l'aime bien celui là) moins de vues possibles mais tu es sur la faille au bord du canyon. c'est le seul lodge qui propose cela
je lis mais suis pas sûr de tout comprendre. De mémoire tu viendrais de Aus, c'est bien ça ? D'abord le problème majeur c'est que ce n'est pas sûr que tu puisses passer par le bas au mois d'avril (orange river débordante)
sinon techniquement tu aurais le temps de faire la route pour arriver au canyon ( côté lodges), faire les points de vue en fin d'aprèm et/ou le lendemain matin idem en passant par la B4
l'autre solution c'est take your time et va te poser au Fish River lodge ( l'aime bien celui là) moins de vues possibles mais tu es sur la faille au bord du canyon. c'est le seul lodge qui propose cela
Botswana Zimbabwe 2011
Namibie 2012
Ben si, tu as tout compris. 😉
Je pensais que c'était trop long par le Sud.
(L'orange River éventuellement débordante, c'est une autre question dont il faudra bien sûr tenir compte !)
J'aurais bien fait une nuit au Fish River Lodge et une autre à Hobas, mais je n'ai pas le temps…
Merci de tes explications. 🙂
Merci de tes explications. 🙂
La bidoche… Il y a un supermarché à Uis (pas testé), sinon rien du tout sans détour vers Khorixas ou Kamanjab.
Ceci dit si tu achètes ta viande surgelée ce qui se fait beaucoup en Namibie, tu la mets gelée dans le frigo. 1/ ça soulage le moteur du frigo quand il fait chaud. 2/ 6 ou 7 jours après elle est toujours à moitié gelée et bonne à manger.
Oui, je connais la superette à Uis: pas très grande, mais y a tout ce qu'il faut. Néanmoins, comme nous aurons fait le gros ravitaillement à Swakop, c'est surtout après Warmquelle que se situe mon souci: y a qqchose à Sesfontein? Sinon, oui, la viande congelée ne dérange pas mais vu qu'on sera à 10 ogres, va falloir remplir les 2 frigos😄 et va falloir se battre avec ceux qui préfèrent y mettre les bières!!!! De bien belles empoignades en perspective!🙂 On va quand même essayer de trouver des côtes de boeuf en boîte!!!!!!!
Oui, je connais la superette à Uis: pas très grande, mais y a tout ce qu'il faut. Néanmoins, comme nous aurons fait le gros ravitaillement à Swakop, c'est surtout après Warmquelle que se situe mon souci: y a qqchose à Sesfontein? Sinon, oui, la viande congelée ne dérange pas mais vu qu'on sera à 10 ogres, va falloir remplir les 2 frigos😄 et va falloir se battre avec ceux qui préfèrent y mettre les bières!!!! De bien belles empoignades en perspective!🙂 On va quand même essayer de trouver des côtes de boeuf en boîte!!!!!!!
Rêver est déjà un beau voyage.
Bonjour Laurent,
entre Swakop et Opuwo y a un point ravitaillement? Il y en a un à Usakos mais je ne sais s'il peut t'aider car c'est tellement près de Swakop ! Je te donne tout de même le renseignement: il s'agit d'un petit supermarket "Shelhelp" à côté de l'hôtel Usakos, au carrefour de la B2 et la route vers Uis D1935. Il est également ouvert le dimanche matin jusque 13h. Sinon il te reste l'option "biscuits de soldats" ou "biscuits bébés"! 🙂 🙂
Bonjour Michelle, merci pour l'info mais effectivement, vu qu'on sortira de Swakop, je pense que les frigos seront encore pleins. Pour les biscuits bébés et autres, on les remplacera allègrement avec du biltong.... on s'en servira même pour les tartines du petit dej....😉
Euhh... cela dit, l'alimentation n'est absolument pas mon obsession hein! Ne me faites pas écrire tout haut ce que mon estomac pense tout bas!😏
entre Swakop et Opuwo y a un point ravitaillement? Il y en a un à Usakos mais je ne sais s'il peut t'aider car c'est tellement près de Swakop ! Je te donne tout de même le renseignement: il s'agit d'un petit supermarket "Shelhelp" à côté de l'hôtel Usakos, au carrefour de la B2 et la route vers Uis D1935. Il est également ouvert le dimanche matin jusque 13h. Sinon il te reste l'option "biscuits de soldats" ou "biscuits bébés"! 🙂 🙂
Bonjour Michelle, merci pour l'info mais effectivement, vu qu'on sortira de Swakop, je pense que les frigos seront encore pleins. Pour les biscuits bébés et autres, on les remplacera allègrement avec du biltong.... on s'en servira même pour les tartines du petit dej....😉
Euhh... cela dit, l'alimentation n'est absolument pas mon obsession hein! Ne me faites pas écrire tout haut ce que mon estomac pense tout bas!😏
Rêver est déjà un beau voyage.
Je me trompe peut-être mais Seisfontein m'a semblé complètement mort en le traversant. Aucun commerce apparent.
Il y a quelques boutiques locales dont une "boulangerie" qui fait du bon pain (mais dont la boulangère ne sait pas trop compter) à la bifurcation vers Warmquelle. S'il y avait de la viande dans ce coin, je ne suis pas sûr que j'en achèterais…
Avant notre virée dans le secteur, on avait fait le plein du frigo à Kamanjab et d'essence à Palmwag. Après, autonomie totale.
il y a quelques magasins d'alimentation le long de la route à Warmquelle justement et à Seisfontein.
Tu trouveras peut-être de la viande congelée (me rappelle plus) mais en tout cas des boites, des pâtes, du riz etc..
après c'est Opuwo
Botswana Zimbabwe 2011
Namibie 2012
Salut Laurent,
Je viens de supprimer mon mesage voyant ta réponse à Pierre " Néanmoins, comme nous aurons fait le gros ravitaillement à Swakop, c'est surtout après Warmquelle que se situe mon souci" avant de voir que tu m'avais déjà (! 🙂) répondu, sorry !😊
Question obsession tu as aussi le corned-beef en boîte et les sardines: 2 articles généralement en vente un peu partout en Afrique...🙂😄
Michelle
You're welcome Michelle,
Question obsession tu as aussi le corned-beef
non, non, je n'ai pas cette obsession!!!😇😇 Pour le corned beef, c'est vachement bon quand c'est préparé avec des oignons, de l'ail, un peu de tomates et du thym: on fait roussir les épices, on balance le corned beef, on laisse cuire un peu et zou dans la gamelle..... avec du riz blanc seulement!😎
Question obsession tu as aussi le corned-beef
non, non, je n'ai pas cette obsession!!!😇😇 Pour le corned beef, c'est vachement bon quand c'est préparé avec des oignons, de l'ail, un peu de tomates et du thym: on fait roussir les épices, on balance le corned beef, on laisse cuire un peu et zou dans la gamelle..... avec du riz blanc seulement!😎
Rêver est déjà un beau voyage.
Mmm ! La cuisine des ïles...enfin, je veux dire la recette version "îles" ! 🙂 😉
Michelle
Hello Pierre,
En voilà une question:
quand tu es dans le lit de rivière tu ne peux pas te tromper et la piste qui en sort à gauche vers le col se trouve dans la première grande courbe à droite de la rivière
justement et si on suit la rivière à droite serait-ce une bonne idée ?. 😎 Car cela ferait un "raccourci" pour aller à Opuwo pour quelqu'un comme moi qui ne tient pas absolument à aller à Orupembe. 😉
Tu vois je commence à connaître mes "classiques" 😊 hi, hi, hi
Par avance merci, cordialement
Max
En voilà une question:
quand tu es dans le lit de rivière tu ne peux pas te tromper et la piste qui en sort à gauche vers le col se trouve dans la première grande courbe à droite de la rivière
justement et si on suit la rivière à droite serait-ce une bonne idée ?. 😎 Car cela ferait un "raccourci" pour aller à Opuwo pour quelqu'un comme moi qui ne tient pas absolument à aller à Orupembe. 😉
Tu vois je commence à connaître mes "classiques" 😊 hi, hi, hi
Par avance merci, cordialement
Max
Salut Jean-François,
Effectivement, si tu continues la rivière, tu rejoins plus loin la piste qui va vers Opuwo. D'ailleurs il y a un des rares camps communautaires du coin dans le lit de l'Hoarusib dans ce coin. Purros / Opuwo dans la journée en passant par là, ça doit être plus ou moins faisable… De Purros à l'intersection, c'est 1h30 environ. Ensuite, quand on regarde la carte, on voit bien que c'est plus long et que la rivière se met à faire beaucoup de méandres à partir de la route du col, donc comptons 3h30 heures de plus pour rejoindre la D3707. Ensuite il te reste 2h30 jusqu'à Opuwo. Ça fait 7/8h de conduite sur piste et hors piste pas toujours facile sans compter les arrêts… (NB. Tu peux rester bloqué un bout de temps si un troupeau d'éléphants refuse de libérer le passage, il faut en tenir compte). Avec un vrai bon 4x4, sans enfants dedans et du matériel de camping au cas où, je tenterais sans doute en partant très tôt.

Effectivement, si tu continues la rivière, tu rejoins plus loin la piste qui va vers Opuwo. D'ailleurs il y a un des rares camps communautaires du coin dans le lit de l'Hoarusib dans ce coin. Purros / Opuwo dans la journée en passant par là, ça doit être plus ou moins faisable… De Purros à l'intersection, c'est 1h30 environ. Ensuite, quand on regarde la carte, on voit bien que c'est plus long et que la rivière se met à faire beaucoup de méandres à partir de la route du col, donc comptons 3h30 heures de plus pour rejoindre la D3707. Ensuite il te reste 2h30 jusqu'à Opuwo. Ça fait 7/8h de conduite sur piste et hors piste pas toujours facile sans compter les arrêts… (NB. Tu peux rester bloqué un bout de temps si un troupeau d'éléphants refuse de libérer le passage, il faut en tenir compte). Avec un vrai bon 4x4, sans enfants dedans et du matériel de camping au cas où, je tenterais sans doute en partant très tôt.

Bonjour,
il y a quelques magasins d'alimentation le long de la route ... à Seisfontein. Tu trouveras peut-être de la viande congelée (me rappelle plus) mais en tout cas des boites, des pâtes, du riz etc.. après c'est Opuwo
Ouais, y' a bien un petit supermarché à Seisfontein ... Bon , y' a pas grand chose, mais on prend c' qu' il y a ! Je me souviens effectivement qu' il y avait des morceaux de viande débités dans un congélateur, nous en avions pris sans jamais n' avoir su de quel animal elle provenait . Je me souviens également que l' établissement dispose d' un distributeur automatique de billets acceptant la Visa ; nous y avions également rempli le porte-monnaie pas loin d' être à sec, ainsi qu' un peu plus loin, le réservoir du 4X4 pas beaucoup plus rempli ! Je me souviens également y avoir croisé "ELlobo" 😉
Voilou ... Jean-Fi .
Michèle (Rivièrefox), participant à ce sujet, certainement me liras-tu ?! Alors Merci beaucoup pour le commentaire bien sympa déposé sur notre site 😉
il y a quelques magasins d'alimentation le long de la route ... à Seisfontein. Tu trouveras peut-être de la viande congelée (me rappelle plus) mais en tout cas des boites, des pâtes, du riz etc.. après c'est Opuwo
Ouais, y' a bien un petit supermarché à Seisfontein ... Bon , y' a pas grand chose, mais on prend c' qu' il y a ! Je me souviens effectivement qu' il y avait des morceaux de viande débités dans un congélateur, nous en avions pris sans jamais n' avoir su de quel animal elle provenait . Je me souviens également que l' établissement dispose d' un distributeur automatique de billets acceptant la Visa ; nous y avions également rempli le porte-monnaie pas loin d' être à sec, ainsi qu' un peu plus loin, le réservoir du 4X4 pas beaucoup plus rempli ! Je me souviens également y avoir croisé "ELlobo" 😉
Voilou ... Jean-Fi .
Michèle (Rivièrefox), participant à ce sujet, certainement me liras-tu ?! Alors Merci beaucoup pour le commentaire bien sympa déposé sur notre site 😉
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Salut Pierre 🙂
sans enfants dedans
ok je leur dirais de courir derrière 😉😮
Sinon merci pour cette réponse rapide et précise 🙂
En fait j'avais déjà repéré ce passage sur T4A mais après plusieurs recherches je n'avais trouvé personne qui l'avait fait, d'où mon hésitation. Tu penses qu'on aurait été aussi vite en faisant le tour ?
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Jean-François
sans enfants dedans
ok je leur dirais de courir derrière 😉😮
Sinon merci pour cette réponse rapide et précise 🙂
En fait j'avais déjà repéré ce passage sur T4A mais après plusieurs recherches je n'avais trouvé personne qui l'avait fait, d'où mon hésitation. Tu penses qu'on aurait été aussi vite en faisant le tour ?
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Jean-François
Tu penses qu'on aurait été aussi vite en faisant le tour ?
Oui. Le plus meilleur rapport temps/intérêt à mon avis : le lit de l'Hoarusib, le col entre Hoarusib et Khumib, puis lit Khumib puis piste parallèle à droite et D3707 à droite nettement avant Orupembe. Une grosse grosse journée de toute façon… Et la nuit tombe tôt !
Oui. Le plus meilleur rapport temps/intérêt à mon avis : le lit de l'Hoarusib, le col entre Hoarusib et Khumib, puis lit Khumib puis piste parallèle à droite et D3707 à droite nettement avant Orupembe. Une grosse grosse journée de toute façon… Et la nuit tombe tôt !
Salut jean-François,
En recherchant des infos sur la région d'Otjiu j'ai trouvé ceci qui devrait - si tu ne l'a pas encore 😊 - t'intéresser (je suppose que tu connais l' Allemand (?)): Namibia Route 18 Auf der D3707 durch das Kaokoveld(***): Sesfontein - Purros - Orupembe - Otjiu - Kaoko Otavi - (Opuwo) http://www.offroad-reisen.com/REISEN/AFRIKA/NAMIBIA/NAM-Routen/NB-Route-18/NB-Route-18.htm
Avais-tu reçu mon petit résumé de la formation de notre nouveau gouvernement ?
Bonne fin de semaine, Jean-François!😉
En recherchant des infos sur la région d'Otjiu j'ai trouvé ceci qui devrait - si tu ne l'a pas encore 😊 - t'intéresser (je suppose que tu connais l' Allemand (?)): Namibia Route 18 Auf der D3707 durch das Kaokoveld(***): Sesfontein - Purros - Orupembe - Otjiu - Kaoko Otavi - (Opuwo) http://www.offroad-reisen.com/REISEN/AFRIKA/NAMIBIA/NAM-Routen/NB-Route-18/NB-Route-18.htm
Avais-tu reçu mon petit résumé de la formation de notre nouveau gouvernement ?
Bonne fin de semaine, Jean-François!😉
Michelle
Bonjour,
J-3 avant le départ et aux dernières nouvelles, il semblerait qu'il fasse bien froid en ce moment là-bas (prenez en compte mon lieu de naissance/résidence pour cette affirmation: tout ce qui se situe aux alentours de 10° et moins = période glaciaire!).
J'aurais une petite demande d'avis: au retour de Namibie, on devra passer 2 nuits à Jobourg avec donc une journée pleine le lundi: j'aurais voulu aller à Gold Reef City avec les enfants (10 et 12 ans) mais il semblerait que ce soit fermé les lundi sauf si période de vacances scolaires dans le Gauteng et je ne crois pas que ce sera le cas le 30 juillet. Aussi, avez-vous des idées sympa de lieux/ activités à faire en une journée à Jobourg ou alentours en une journée de lundi avec des enfants? Je pense qu'après qqes jours dans le Kgalagadi et Etosha, on n'aura pas trop envie de se faire un zoo ou autre petite réserve animalière..... Je précise aussi qu'on a déjà fait la visite de Soweto et centre de jobourg. Je file préparer les bagages dans lesquels je ne manquerai pas d'y mettre la carte des points ravitaillement en viande!!!!😛
J'aurais une petite demande d'avis: au retour de Namibie, on devra passer 2 nuits à Jobourg avec donc une journée pleine le lundi: j'aurais voulu aller à Gold Reef City avec les enfants (10 et 12 ans) mais il semblerait que ce soit fermé les lundi sauf si période de vacances scolaires dans le Gauteng et je ne crois pas que ce sera le cas le 30 juillet. Aussi, avez-vous des idées sympa de lieux/ activités à faire en une journée à Jobourg ou alentours en une journée de lundi avec des enfants? Je pense qu'après qqes jours dans le Kgalagadi et Etosha, on n'aura pas trop envie de se faire un zoo ou autre petite réserve animalière..... Je précise aussi qu'on a déjà fait la visite de Soweto et centre de jobourg. Je file préparer les bagages dans lesquels je ne manquerai pas d'y mettre la carte des points ravitaillement en viande!!!!😛
Rêver est déjà un beau voyage.
Merci Pierre et je compte bien suivre qqes unes de tes traces!
C'est bien ce que je pensais pour les t°.... on va se le geler très très grave!
Pour Jobourg, il se pourrait aussi qu'on se vautre comme des grosses larves toute la journée dans le canapé du lodge, histoire de glander au moins une journée avant le retour et la reprise du boulot! Ah flûte, rien qu'à l'idée de ces derniers mots, une sorte de tressaillement m'a soudainement traversé le corps!
Pour Jobourg, il se pourrait aussi qu'on se vautre comme des grosses larves toute la journée dans le canapé du lodge, histoire de glander au moins une journée avant le retour et la reprise du boulot! Ah flûte, rien qu'à l'idée de ces derniers mots, une sorte de tressaillement m'a soudainement traversé le corps!
Rêver est déjà un beau voyage.
Laurent ayant relancé son fil, je suis retombé là-dessus…
Effectivement, si tu continues la rivière, tu rejoins plus loin la piste qui va vers Opuwo. D'ailleurs il y a un des rares camps communautaires du coin dans le lit de l'Hoarusib dans ce coin. Purros / Opuwo dans la journée en passant par là, ça doit être plus ou moins faisable… De Purros à l'intersection, c'est 1h30 environ. Ensuite, quand on regarde la carte, on voit bien que c'est plus long et que la rivière se met à faire beaucoup de méandres à partir de la route du col, donc comptons 3h30 heures de plus pour rejoindre la D3707. Ensuite il te reste 2h30 jusqu'à Opuwo. Ça fait 7/8h de conduite sur piste et hors piste pas toujours facile sans compter les arrêts… (NB. Tu peux rester bloqué un bout de temps si un troupeau d'éléphants refuse de libérer le passage, il faut en tenir compte). Avec un vrai bon 4x4, sans enfants dedans et du matériel de camping au cas où, je tenterais sans doute en partant très tôt.

Maintenant, j'ai eu des échos de quelqu'un qui est passé par là. C'est du 4x4 très hard avec des rétrécissements rocheux et des marches quasi infranchissables. Ce que j'avais écrit au-dessus est donc faux. 😊
Effectivement, si tu continues la rivière, tu rejoins plus loin la piste qui va vers Opuwo. D'ailleurs il y a un des rares camps communautaires du coin dans le lit de l'Hoarusib dans ce coin. Purros / Opuwo dans la journée en passant par là, ça doit être plus ou moins faisable… De Purros à l'intersection, c'est 1h30 environ. Ensuite, quand on regarde la carte, on voit bien que c'est plus long et que la rivière se met à faire beaucoup de méandres à partir de la route du col, donc comptons 3h30 heures de plus pour rejoindre la D3707. Ensuite il te reste 2h30 jusqu'à Opuwo. Ça fait 7/8h de conduite sur piste et hors piste pas toujours facile sans compter les arrêts… (NB. Tu peux rester bloqué un bout de temps si un troupeau d'éléphants refuse de libérer le passage, il faut en tenir compte). Avec un vrai bon 4x4, sans enfants dedans et du matériel de camping au cas où, je tenterais sans doute en partant très tôt.

Maintenant, j'ai eu des échos de quelqu'un qui est passé par là. C'est du 4x4 très hard avec des rétrécissements rocheux et des marches quasi infranchissables. Ce que j'avais écrit au-dessus est donc faux. 😊
Bonjour,
J'allais te proposer le Musée de l'apartheid (quitte à survoler avec les enfants) mais ... tu as de la chance (?) c'est fermé le lundi.
Le Carlton Centre, peut-être?
Dans l'immeuble le plus haut du continent (incluant La Réunion😉) un mall comme on dit en Amérique et un peu partout désormais avec de nombreux magasins. On peut accéder au dernier étage qui offre une vue ... forcément panoramique (mais pas jusqu'à St Denis quand même!).
Un ensemble donc qui peut épater les enfants et ... s'il reste quelques sous vous y trouverez peut-être des choses qui ne sont pas distribuées à la Réunion.
En ce qui me concerne, j'avoue que je ne sais pas encore quelle piste on fera à partir de Puros: on a une nuit au camping de Puros et la deuxième en bivouac qqe part entre puros et Opuwo. On avisera sur place en jaugeant l'état et le moral de troupes si on fait le détour par Orupembe ou si on suit la piste que tu avais faite le long de la rivière. Je pense néanmoins que cette dernière option est la plus probable. De plus, comme nous aurons 2 véhicules nous aurons moins de crainte.
Rêver est déjà un beau voyage.
Je voulais juste signaler que j'en savais un peu plus sur la partie de lit de l'Hoarusib sur la partie que nous n'avons pas faite, après son coude à droite.
2ème post de ce fil : http://www.4x4community.co.za/...wthread.php?t=111204
Extrait…
But the Hoarusib north of the junction to the Khumib was a nightmare for me. Got stuck 4 or 5 times in deep soft sand and mud. There are also some parts with big rocks and a good chance to damage the car. All in all we needed 12 hours for approx. 50 km.
But the Hoarusib north of the junction to the Khumib was a nightmare for me. Got stuck 4 or 5 times in deep soft sand and mud. There are also some parts with big rocks and a good chance to damage the car. All in all we needed 12 hours for approx. 50 km.
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De retour d’un voyage de trois semaines au Kenya en famille (trois enfants de 10, 12 et 15 ans), je souhaitais partager mon expérience. En effet, les forums m’ont été très utiles pour préparer ce voyage, surtout si on souhaite un peu sortir des sentiers battus.
Avant tout, il faut savoir que le Kenya est une super destination avec des habitants très sympas et très accueillants, il nous a été facile de voyager sur place car vous trouvez toujours quelqu’un pour vous renseigner et vous aider.
Dans les trucs pratiques à faire absolument, mais vous le lirez ailleurs, prenez une carte SIM Safaricom à l’arrivée à l’aéroport pour pouvoir payer via M-Pesa (recharge possible par CB via l’application wise) et échanger avec vos interlocuteurs par whatsapp. Cela vous simplifiera vraiment la vie (réservation des trains, bus, entrée dans les parcs, etc) et vous évitera de vous promener avec trop d’espèces sur vous ou de devoir chercher des ATM.
A noter aussi, nous sommes partis les trois premières semaines de juillet et ce n’était pas vraiment la saison touristique.
Il faut également savoir que même si vous voyagez en prenant les transports en commun et des hébergements économiques, cela reste une destination chère car les attractions touristiques sont vite onéreuses, avec des prix souvent plus élevés que ce que vous payerez en France. Mais honnêtement, cela en vaut (le plus souvent !) la peine !
Nous avons débuté notre séjour par 5 jours chez l’habitant. Nous avons été accueillis dans une famille vraiment très sympathique à Loitokitok avec une vue sur le Kilimandjaro depuis l’entrée du jardin (à savoir : en juillet, il est souvent dans la brume !)! pour les trouver, cherchez greenfield Homestay à Loitokitok. C’est une super expérience, surtout avec des enfants ! En plus des transferts, ils nous ont organisé plusieurs sorties avec des personnes du village : randonnée à la frontière tanzanienne, balade en moto sur les contreforts du Kilimandjaro, journée de Safari à Amboseli... Vous pouvez y aller les yeux fermés ! Pour le Safari, c’est Anthony qui nous accompagné (il est anglophone), il est originaire du coin et connait le parc comme sa poche. Je vous le recommande vivement !
Anthony, nous a ensuite conduit jusqu’à Isiolo, une ville au Nord qui commence juste à s’ouvrir au tourisme ! Nous voulions voir le marché aux bestiaux du lundi qui permet de croiser plusieurs ethnies qui viennent sur place pour acheter ou vendre chèvres, moutons et vaches selon le lonely planet. Nous avons été un plutôt déçu et ne recommandons pas. Nous avons également visité la forêt de Ngare Ndare avec une cascade magnifique, une balade très intéressante avec un ranger armé (les éléphants sont nombreux) et un pont suspendu qui permet d’admirer la canopée. Attention, il faut prévenir de sa venue au moins trois jours à l’avance pour être certain qu’un ranger sera disponible pour vous accompagner. Nous avons également fait une deuxième journée de Safari à Samburu. C’est très complémentaire d’Amboseli. Çà vaut vraiment le coût !
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Watamu est aussi surnommée Little Italy, car il y a de nombreux touristes italiens là-bas. Lorsque nous y étions (troisième semaine de juillet), ce n’était pas encore la haute saison touristique aussi, les plages n’étaient pas nettoyées. Par contre, on a apprécié la douceur de vivre, la facilité à se déplacer et on recommande le centre de sauvetage des tortues marines. C’est très intéressant (surtout avec des enfants) et vous soutiendrez une belle initiative ! Nous avons été plutôt déçus par le parc marin, mais c’est peut être à cause de la saison : il y avait peu de poissons et des méduses qui ont un peu gâché la sortie snorkeling. La visite de la mangrove est aussi à faire.
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Si vous avez des questions, n’hésitez pas !
En tous cas, nous avons passé un super séjour, très varié avec de belles rencontres et la magie des safaris !
Hi everyone!
My trip to South Africa is getting closer (still 2 months to go 😏), and I’m diving back into my itinerary: from Saturday to the following Sunday around Cape Town, then from Sunday to the following Saturday in Kruger.
For Cape Town, the plan was to avoid changing accommodation every day (we’ll do enough of that in the second part) but still see different landscapes. I know, I’m missing out on a lot, but you’ve got to make choices, and after all this time, I know what I like—and especially what I don’t (or like less) 😉
Here’s the breakdown:
Arrival Saturday at 11 AM: heading to Hermanus (2 nights). The idea is to stroll along the cliff path in the afternoon, and possibly drive to the Klein River Lagoon. Sunday: Stony Point, then depending on time and weather, a hike in Kogelberg Nature Reserve or Fernkloof Nature Reserve (which seems less scenic but has shorter walks). Monday: drive to Franschhoek (1 night). If everything lines up, a hike in Jonkershoek NR and a visit to a wine estate. Tuesday: drive to Mountceder Lodge in the Cederberg (2 nights). I’m thinking of visiting the Stadsaal Caves and the elephant paintings, and maybe one of the hikes listed on the lodge’s site or Maltese Cross. Thursday: heading to Hout Bay for 3 nights. In no particular order: a classic day trip around the peninsula, half a day at Kirstenbosch Gardens, and half a day at Lion’s Head. Sunday: flight to Johannesburg.
My questions are mostly about (short) hikes: Has anyone here done hikes in Kogelberg, Fernkloof, or Jonkershoek? At Mountceder Lodge (Michel, if you’re reading this… 😉), has anyone tried the hikes (guided or not) offered by the lodge? There’s still half a day to fill when we’re in Hout Bay—any ideas (not necessarily hikes)?
Lastly, regarding safety: the French foreign ministry (always alarmist, but still) recommends hiking in groups. Is it really risky in broad daylight? (I’m not sure a group of two women counts as a "group"…)
Thanks in advance for your answers, ideas, and comments!
My trip to South Africa is getting closer (still 2 months to go 😏), and I’m diving back into my itinerary: from Saturday to the following Sunday around Cape Town, then from Sunday to the following Saturday in Kruger.
For Cape Town, the plan was to avoid changing accommodation every day (we’ll do enough of that in the second part) but still see different landscapes. I know, I’m missing out on a lot, but you’ve got to make choices, and after all this time, I know what I like—and especially what I don’t (or like less) 😉
Here’s the breakdown:
Arrival Saturday at 11 AM: heading to Hermanus (2 nights). The idea is to stroll along the cliff path in the afternoon, and possibly drive to the Klein River Lagoon. Sunday: Stony Point, then depending on time and weather, a hike in Kogelberg Nature Reserve or Fernkloof Nature Reserve (which seems less scenic but has shorter walks). Monday: drive to Franschhoek (1 night). If everything lines up, a hike in Jonkershoek NR and a visit to a wine estate. Tuesday: drive to Mountceder Lodge in the Cederberg (2 nights). I’m thinking of visiting the Stadsaal Caves and the elephant paintings, and maybe one of the hikes listed on the lodge’s site or Maltese Cross. Thursday: heading to Hout Bay for 3 nights. In no particular order: a classic day trip around the peninsula, half a day at Kirstenbosch Gardens, and half a day at Lion’s Head. Sunday: flight to Johannesburg.
My questions are mostly about (short) hikes: Has anyone here done hikes in Kogelberg, Fernkloof, or Jonkershoek? At Mountceder Lodge (Michel, if you’re reading this… 😉), has anyone tried the hikes (guided or not) offered by the lodge? There’s still half a day to fill when we’re in Hout Bay—any ideas (not necessarily hikes)?
Lastly, regarding safety: the French foreign ministry (always alarmist, but still) recommends hiking in groups. Is it really risky in broad daylight? (I’m not sure a group of two women counts as a "group"…)
Thanks in advance for your answers, ideas, and comments!
hi
Question: we’re doing a 3-week trip in Namibia, including 5 days for Victoria Falls. I’ve booked one night in Brandberg, and then I have some questions. I was thinking of spending 2 nights in Palmwag, then heading to Etosha for one night in Okaukuejo and then 2 nights in Halali. Alternatively, from Brandberg, I could book a night near Galton Gate and then enter Etosha. I’m not really sure about the distances, especially with a 4x4. Same for the return trip: Halali to Windhoek seems long. Maybe it’d be smart to break it up on the way back? (We have 2 days to get back if needed.) If so, where?
Thanks for your tips and feedback!
Rachel
Question: we’re doing a 3-week trip in Namibia, including 5 days for Victoria Falls. I’ve booked one night in Brandberg, and then I have some questions. I was thinking of spending 2 nights in Palmwag, then heading to Etosha for one night in Okaukuejo and then 2 nights in Halali. Alternatively, from Brandberg, I could book a night near Galton Gate and then enter Etosha. I’m not really sure about the distances, especially with a 4x4. Same for the return trip: Halali to Windhoek seems long. Maybe it’d be smart to break it up on the way back? (We have 2 days to get back if needed.) If so, where?
Thanks for your tips and feedback!
Rachel
Jambo! I organized my trip through this kind of group, so I thought I’d share my experience here. We traveled as a group of four, including two kids aged 9 and 11. After requesting around twenty quotes, I decided to book the safari portion with MAKING MEMORIES IN AFRICA. Ally responded quickly and listened to all my requests—unlike other agencies—such as having a French-speaking guide, the order of park visits (Tarangire, Manyara, Serengeti, then Ngorongoro), and a mix of budget hotels and camping to keep costs down. There were still four agencies in the running, and price was the deciding factor. Even though they were the cheapest, I felt better taken care of than with others. For example, all meals were prepared by a Maasai chef, Louis, who accompanied us throughout the trip, while some others ate meals out of cardboard boxes. Samuel, our guide, explained so many things and answered all our questions. José drove us safely the whole way. Everything was done with great cheer!
At the end of the stay, Ally came to meet us and gave us t-shirts with the agency’s logo—we loved that they took the time to hear our feedback in person. In short, I highly recommend them +++, especially since it’s a local agency that also supports a charity for women and children.
For Zanzibar, I organized everything myself. I hesitated for a long time but eventually booked all four nights at the same place. We don’t like crowds, so I initially considered Jambiani but ended up choosing EVERGREEN BUNGALOWS in Bwejuu. We took their first airport-to-hotel transfer since we arrived at night, and it felt safer. Great value for money, in our opinion. Just be aware that it’s quite isolated—perfect for relaxing and going on excursions. There were very few beach vendors, unlike what I’d read about Zanzibar. We lived with our feet in the sand from morning to night, with a small basin of water outside our room to rinse off. Such a lovely spot!
I had asked for some excursion prices before leaving but ended up booking on-site. Not at our hotel, but at a nearby restaurant that was cheaper. After some thought, since we were based in Bwejuu, I wanted to do Blue Lagoon and Pungume (both departing from the south of Zanzibar).
Blue Lagoon: About 3 hours total, with snorkeling on a small reef full of fish (coral wasn’t great) and a stop at a spot with tons of starfish, plus local snacks, fruit, and drinks.
Pungume: An amazing day with a 50% chance of seeing dolphins (we missed them), a visit to the mangroves, then snorkeling at a spot with some nice coral and, of course, fish. We ended with a fantastic grill (tuna, shrimp, squid, lobster, and fries) on a sandbank in the shade.
Finally, before heading to Stone Town, we visited Paje Cave, which is much less known than Maalum. It’s smaller, but we saw bats, went for a swim, and fed the chickens and rabbits (great for the kids). To finish, we explored Stone Town on our own and had dinner at Forodhani Market.
For flights, we flew with Turkish Airlines from Barcelona to Kilimanjaro and back from Zanzibar—no issues there. However, I don’t recommend the Kilimanjaro-Zanzibar leg with Precision Air. Our luggage didn’t arrive, and according to the hotel, this happens often. We only got it back a day and a half later.
At the end of the stay, Ally came to meet us and gave us t-shirts with the agency’s logo—we loved that they took the time to hear our feedback in person. In short, I highly recommend them +++, especially since it’s a local agency that also supports a charity for women and children.
For Zanzibar, I organized everything myself. I hesitated for a long time but eventually booked all four nights at the same place. We don’t like crowds, so I initially considered Jambiani but ended up choosing EVERGREEN BUNGALOWS in Bwejuu. We took their first airport-to-hotel transfer since we arrived at night, and it felt safer. Great value for money, in our opinion. Just be aware that it’s quite isolated—perfect for relaxing and going on excursions. There were very few beach vendors, unlike what I’d read about Zanzibar. We lived with our feet in the sand from morning to night, with a small basin of water outside our room to rinse off. Such a lovely spot!
I had asked for some excursion prices before leaving but ended up booking on-site. Not at our hotel, but at a nearby restaurant that was cheaper. After some thought, since we were based in Bwejuu, I wanted to do Blue Lagoon and Pungume (both departing from the south of Zanzibar).
Blue Lagoon: About 3 hours total, with snorkeling on a small reef full of fish (coral wasn’t great) and a stop at a spot with tons of starfish, plus local snacks, fruit, and drinks.
Pungume: An amazing day with a 50% chance of seeing dolphins (we missed them), a visit to the mangroves, then snorkeling at a spot with some nice coral and, of course, fish. We ended with a fantastic grill (tuna, shrimp, squid, lobster, and fries) on a sandbank in the shade.
Finally, before heading to Stone Town, we visited Paje Cave, which is much less known than Maalum. It’s smaller, but we saw bats, went for a swim, and fed the chickens and rabbits (great for the kids). To finish, we explored Stone Town on our own and had dinner at Forodhani Market.
For flights, we flew with Turkish Airlines from Barcelona to Kilimanjaro and back from Zanzibar—no issues there. However, I don’t recommend the Kilimanjaro-Zanzibar leg with Precision Air. Our luggage didn’t arrive, and according to the hotel, this happens often. We only got it back a day and a half later.
Hi there,
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Thanks in advance, and have a great evening! !
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Thanks in advance, and have a great evening! !
Hi there,
Hope the pros are on the lookout!
March or May 2027. Around 15 days in the Western Cape, then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George. The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode... From George: Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1. Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna. Question: What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339. And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340. Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed? Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert? If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts? From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both). Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area? Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me... (For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...). Any feedback from the pros? Well, that’s about it... I’m open to any other tips or advice!
March or May 2027. Around 15 days in the Western Cape, then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George. The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode... From George: Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1. Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna. Question: What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339. And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340. Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed? Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert? If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts? From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both). Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area? Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me... (For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...). Any feedback from the pros? Well, that’s about it... I’m open to any other tips or advice!
Hi there,
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
Thanks,
David
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
Thanks,
David
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
Thanks
Hi,
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks. We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
Thanks in advance for your tips!!
Have a great day
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks. We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
Thanks in advance for your tips!!
Have a great day
Hi there,
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
Hi everyone!
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old. We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions: - How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?). - Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice. - I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that. - Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas! Gabriel
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old. We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions: - How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?). - Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice. - I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that. - Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas! Gabriel
Hi everyone!
I’m looking for a French-speaking local guide for July 2019. Would anyone have a contact there? No tour operators, please.
Thanks in advance!
I’m looking for a French-speaking local guide for July 2019. Would anyone have a contact there? No tour operators, please.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg. This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg. This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
Hi
Any feedback on the agency Mon Guide Zanzibar?
Hi everyone,
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland. Could you share any tips on: - the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar) - your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours - reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Thanks in advance!
Albin
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland. Could you share any tips on: - the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar) - your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours - reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Thanks in advance!
Albin
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
Hello,
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature. 😊🦁
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature. 😊🦁
Hi everyone,
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa? As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult? We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :) We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend. See you on the road with Doddy
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa? As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult? We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :) We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend. See you on the road with Doddy
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
Hello everyone,
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective. First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...). That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on. The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start... During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.) The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance. Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page). Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective. First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...). That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on. The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start... During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.) The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance. Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page). Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
Hi everyone,
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉
hi there
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works. I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!! I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh… Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car?? If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali? Thanks so much for your help… Best regards
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works. I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!! I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh… Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car?? If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali? Thanks so much for your help… Best regards
Hey everyone,
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be: - Hwange - Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona) - Mana Pools - Harare - Gonarezhou - Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be: - Hwange - Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona) - Mana Pools - Harare - Gonarezhou - Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
hi there
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work. I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts. So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza Ngenda Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas) Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions: -Is French still widely spoken? -Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info? -Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back? -Is it possible to go hiking solo? -Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share. Looking forward to exchanging more!
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work. I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts. So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza Ngenda Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas) Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions: -Is French still widely spoken? -Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info? -Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back? -Is it possible to go hiking solo? -Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share. Looking forward to exchanging more!
Hi everyone,
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind. I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south: 14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie 17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza 20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara 22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants 25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere. 28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel. 29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance! Nicole Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind. I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south: 14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie 17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza 20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara 22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants 25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere. 28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel. 29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance! Nicole Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’d like to return to Africa and stay in a lodge where I can see animals—not necessarily the Big Five—without needing any transport once I arrive at the lodge, and at a price under $250 per day for two people with full board. The week-long stay is planned for late June into early July. I’m looking for suggestions. Thanks in advance!