Boucle Denver/Denver
by Vancouv123
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
merci Bastinj
Nous sommes en train de revoir la première partie du voyage en se disant que Mesa Verde serait plutôt pour un autre séjour, ce qui nous permettra de diminuer un peu le nombre de km: On enlève Manitou Springs, Alamosa, Mesa Verde; on passe par Colorado National Monument, et on réinvestit une nuit de plus à Rapid City pour aller jusqu'aux Badlands
Du coup le trajet reste le même après Salt Lake City, (ou Vernal, pas encore complètement décidé) et avant cela donne: J1 Denver J2 Denver à Vail ; nuit à Vail J3 Vail à Fruita en passant par Colorado NM; nuit à Fruita J4 J5 J6 J7 Fruita à Moab; 3 nuits. Visites de Canyonlands (Needles), Negro Bill Canyon, Corona Arch, Fischer Towers J8 Moab Price en passant par Goblin Valley J9 Price Salt Lake City
Est-ce que vous avez une autre idée de point d'étape en allant de Denver à Fruita? (sans passer plus au Sud, ce qui nous rallongerait trop en km). En quoi consiste la visite de Colorado NM: combien de temps à peu près? Et enfin, qui connaît Vail?
Merci!
Du coup le trajet reste le même après Salt Lake City, (ou Vernal, pas encore complètement décidé) et avant cela donne: J1 Denver J2 Denver à Vail ; nuit à Vail J3 Vail à Fruita en passant par Colorado NM; nuit à Fruita J4 J5 J6 J7 Fruita à Moab; 3 nuits. Visites de Canyonlands (Needles), Negro Bill Canyon, Corona Arch, Fischer Towers J8 Moab Price en passant par Goblin Valley J9 Price Salt Lake City
Est-ce que vous avez une autre idée de point d'étape en allant de Denver à Fruita? (sans passer plus au Sud, ce qui nous rallongerait trop en km). En quoi consiste la visite de Colorado NM: combien de temps à peu près? Et enfin, qui connaît Vail?
Merci!
Bonjour Nathalie,
Je ne sais plus si vous êtes randonneurs. Si c'est le cas, le début du carnet de Orionide vous donnera des idées pour le début du circuit jusqu'à Colorado NM : http://voyageforum.com/discussion/35-jours-dans-ouest-best-of-d7222251/
Dans Colorado NM, nous avons passé une partie de l'après-midi jusqu'au coucher du soleil pour balades et points de vue + retour le lendemain matin de bonne heure. A Fruita, nous avons dormi au motel "Comfort Inn". Pour le dîner, nous avons aimé le restaurant mexicain "El Tapatio".
Le lendemain, après Colorado NM, nous sommes sortis l'I-70 à Cisco (ville fantôme où a été tournée une scène de "Thelma and Louise") > scenic 128 en direction de Moab.
Avez-vous réservé vos hébergements pour le Yellowstone NP ?
Bonne préparation !
Je ne sais plus si vous êtes randonneurs. Si c'est le cas, le début du carnet de Orionide vous donnera des idées pour le début du circuit jusqu'à Colorado NM : http://voyageforum.com/discussion/35-jours-dans-ouest-best-of-d7222251/
Dans Colorado NM, nous avons passé une partie de l'après-midi jusqu'au coucher du soleil pour balades et points de vue + retour le lendemain matin de bonne heure. A Fruita, nous avons dormi au motel "Comfort Inn". Pour le dîner, nous avons aimé le restaurant mexicain "El Tapatio".
Le lendemain, après Colorado NM, nous sommes sortis l'I-70 à Cisco (ville fantôme où a été tournée une scène de "Thelma and Louise") > scenic 128 en direction de Moab.
Avez-vous réservé vos hébergements pour le Yellowstone NP ?
Bonne préparation !
Hiacinthe
Bonjour Hyacinthe
Merci pour votre réponse
Nous sommes un petit peu randonneurs, les parents oui, les enfants un peu moins 🙂
Du circuit de Orionide je retiens que nous pourrions faire Rattlesnake et Hanging Lake car Crystall mills est trop au Sud
Quand vous avez visité Colorado NM, vous avez dormi où? "Retour le lendemain matin de bonne heure " c'est retour depuis où?
Pour Yellowstone l'un des hôtels que je souhaite réserver à West Yellowstone n'ouvre que fin novembre, et sinon sur Gardiner il y a plusieurs possibilités encore. En fait j'attendais d'avoir complètement finalisé le circuit pour ne pas revenir sur les dates...
Là j'y suis presque, il ne me reste plus que ces 2 premiers jours entre Denver et Moab pour voir où s'arrêter précisément en faisant une étape et en ayant du temps pour voir Colorado NM + quelques balades
Merci , c'est bon à savoir🙂
Du coup il me faut un autre point de chute entre Denver et Colorado NM
On pourrait imaginer d'aller directement à Grand Junction et faire Colorado NM puis route vers Moab le lendemain, mais j'aurais bien voulu trouver un endroit "agréable" où faire étape avant, Grand Junction n'ayant pas vraiment de charme non plus pour l'avoir vu l'année dernière
Vous avez une idée?
Bonjour Nathalie,
Comme je le disais sur mon précédent message, nous avons dormi à Fruita au motel "Comfort Inn" après la visite de Colorado NM jusqu'au coucher du soleil.
Quand nous sommes revenus dans le parc de Colorado NM le matin, c'était à partir de Fruita où nous avions passé la nuit.
La veille, nous avons logé à Carbondale (2 nuits à cet endroit afin d'aller aux Maroon Bells).
Bonne préparation !
Comme je le disais sur mon précédent message, nous avons dormi à Fruita au motel "Comfort Inn" après la visite de Colorado NM jusqu'au coucher du soleil.
Quand nous sommes revenus dans le parc de Colorado NM le matin, c'était à partir de Fruita où nous avions passé la nuit.
La veille, nous avons logé à Carbondale (2 nuits à cet endroit afin d'aller aux Maroon Bells).
Bonne préparation !
Hiacinthe
Des personnes font étape à Glenwood Springs pour les sources d'eau chaude et la proximité par rapport à Hanging Lake (très fréquenté en été, si vous y allez, il faut arriver tôt au parking. Quand nous avons voulu y aller, la bretelle d'autoroute était fermée, il était indiqué que le parking était complet).
un site sur Glenwood Springs :
http://www.visitglenwood.com/
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Hiacinthe
Bonjour Nathalie,
Pour un motel a West Yellowstone: Il y a le Al Westward Motel au coin du Hwy 191 et de N Boundary Street. Ms Parker que je connais depuis des annees est une charmante dame. Ce n'est peut-etre pas le motel le plus luxueux de West Yellowstone, mais il est bien pour le prix.
Voici le telephone: 1 406. 646 7331
Cordialement
Alex
http://durandale2.blogspot.com/
How heavy do I journey on the way,
When what I seek (my weary travel’s end)
Shakespeare sonnet 50, vers 1- 2.
Merci Hyacinthe pour les précisions
A force je m'y perds !
Je pense que nous allons passer une nuit à Glenwood Springs (plutôt que Vail) et tenter de faire l'excursion au Hanging Lake, puis nous partirons de là pour Fruita en faisant Colorado NM dans la journée, et le lendemain route pour Moab.
Bonjour Alex
Merci pour le conseil ! 🙂
Vous qui connaissez bien, quand on remonte de Price pour aller à SLC, est-il nécessaire pour avoir un aperçu du lac salé de se rendre jusqu'à Antelope Island ou bien suffit il de s'arrêter avant juste à 19 miles à l'Ouest de SLC?
Bonsoir à tous
Je suis en train d'affiner la dernière partie du voyage et vos conseils m'ont été précieux
Alors j'en profite 🙂
au départ je pensais sillonner depuis Rapid City (y rester 3 nuits) vers 1/ Custer State Park (et Rushmore) et 2/ Badlands mais finalement n'est ce pas mieux de faire 1 nuit dans les Badlands et 2 nuits à Keystone? Par ailleurs, si j'opte pour cet itinéraire, aurai-je le temps de visiter Devil Tower et Deadwood en partant de Gilette pour aller le soir dormir dans les Badlands (et visiter le lendemain en retournant vers Keystone?) Enfin, conseilleriez vous plutôt Keystone ou Rapid City? qui m'a l'air d'une ville sans charme
GILETTE VERS BADLANDS (3H30, 350 KM) – (NUIT BADLANDS) VIA DEVIL TOWER (1H, 100 KM) PUIS VIA DEADWOOD (1H15, 120 KM) AVEC VISITE BROKEN BOOT GOLD MINE PUIS DEADWOOD VERS BADLANDS ( BADLANDS RANCH RESORT?) (2H, 200 KM)
BADLANDS VERS KEYSTONE (1H45, 160KM) (NUIT KEYSTONE) VISITE BADLANDS dans la journée
KEYSTONE (NUIT KEYSTONE) VISITE MONT RUSHMORE ET CUSTER STATE PARK (1H, 40 KM)
KEYSTONE VERS DENVER (6H, 630 KM KM) (NUIT DENVER)
Merci encore beaucoup pour votre aide
au départ je pensais sillonner depuis Rapid City (y rester 3 nuits) vers 1/ Custer State Park (et Rushmore) et 2/ Badlands mais finalement n'est ce pas mieux de faire 1 nuit dans les Badlands et 2 nuits à Keystone? Par ailleurs, si j'opte pour cet itinéraire, aurai-je le temps de visiter Devil Tower et Deadwood en partant de Gilette pour aller le soir dormir dans les Badlands (et visiter le lendemain en retournant vers Keystone?) Enfin, conseilleriez vous plutôt Keystone ou Rapid City? qui m'a l'air d'une ville sans charme
GILETTE VERS BADLANDS (3H30, 350 KM) – (NUIT BADLANDS) VIA DEVIL TOWER (1H, 100 KM) PUIS VIA DEADWOOD (1H15, 120 KM) AVEC VISITE BROKEN BOOT GOLD MINE PUIS DEADWOOD VERS BADLANDS ( BADLANDS RANCH RESORT?) (2H, 200 KM)
BADLANDS VERS KEYSTONE (1H45, 160KM) (NUIT KEYSTONE) VISITE BADLANDS dans la journée
KEYSTONE (NUIT KEYSTONE) VISITE MONT RUSHMORE ET CUSTER STATE PARK (1H, 40 KM)
KEYSTONE VERS DENVER (6H, 630 KM KM) (NUIT DENVER)
Merci encore beaucoup pour votre aide
"Quand vous avez visité Colorado NM, vous avez dormi où? "
Voici le planning que ns avions suivi:
J1 : Vol pour Denver J2 : Denver – Boulder – Trail Ridge Road (Rocky Mountains NP) – Silverthorne (outlets) - Glenwoods Springs J3 : Glenwoods Springs – Colorado NM – scenic Hwy 128 – Moab (Delicat Arch au sunset)
"En quoi consiste la visite de Colorado NM: combien de temps à peu près?"
Compter 2 à 3 h pour faire le tour des points de vue en voiture sur la Rim Rock Drive + 1 ou 2 h pour faire une rando (par exemple Otto’s Trail : 1mi/1.6 Km /1h A-R, facile)
Ne pas rater le point de vue Book Cliff View surplombant Sentinel Spire. On y arrive : – soit, en voiture en quittant la route principale et prendre la petite route menant au camping Saddlehorn – soit, à pied en suivant Canyon Rim Trail : 1mi/1.6 Km/1h A-R, qui démarre du Visitor Center
Ns avions aussi visité le Devil’s Canyon Science and Learning Center, situé à l’entrée du Colorado NM.Ce musée a recréé un ensemble de différents dinosaures animés ( en arrivant à Grand Junction, on pénètre dans le pays des dinosaures : le quart N-E de l’Utah et la frange N-O du Colorado est richissime en ossements et en fossiles de bêtes préhistoriques).
"Est-ce que vous avez une autre idée de point d'étape en allant de Denver à Fruita? (sans passer plus au Sud, ce qui nous rallongerait trop en km)."
Voir mon 1er message sur votre topic : le Rocky Mountains NP, Mont Evans, ... , Idaho Springs, Georgetown, Glenwood Springs, la région d'Aspen (Leadville, Twin Lakes, col d'Independance, Maroon Lake, Hanging Lake, Crystal Mill), Black Canyon of the Gunnison, etc...
Après Vail, vs pourriez prévoir d'emprunter les routes 24 + 82 et faire des arrêts à: Leadville (petite ville minière du 19ème siècle) Twin Lakes Independance Pass Marron Bells (près de Aspen) voir http://ouestusa.fr/...n%20bells/maroon.php
Faire un tour sur la Grand Mesa en suivant la rte 65 (appelée Grand Mesa scenic and historic Byway) voir http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/byways/byways/2103/maps Cette montagne au sommet plat de 130 km², domine Grand Junction à 50 km à l’est. Elle s’élève à une altitude de 3000m et regorge de lacs. C’est un lieu privilégié pour randonneurs et cyclistes (bcp de cerfs, ours, chevreuils)
Une idée pour aller de Grand Junction à Moab (autrement que par I-70 + Hwy 128): emprunter la piste Gateway-Castleton
Voici le planning que ns avions suivi:
J1 : Vol pour Denver J2 : Denver – Boulder – Trail Ridge Road (Rocky Mountains NP) – Silverthorne (outlets) - Glenwoods Springs J3 : Glenwoods Springs – Colorado NM – scenic Hwy 128 – Moab (Delicat Arch au sunset)
"En quoi consiste la visite de Colorado NM: combien de temps à peu près?"
Compter 2 à 3 h pour faire le tour des points de vue en voiture sur la Rim Rock Drive + 1 ou 2 h pour faire une rando (par exemple Otto’s Trail : 1mi/1.6 Km /1h A-R, facile)
Ne pas rater le point de vue Book Cliff View surplombant Sentinel Spire. On y arrive : – soit, en voiture en quittant la route principale et prendre la petite route menant au camping Saddlehorn – soit, à pied en suivant Canyon Rim Trail : 1mi/1.6 Km/1h A-R, qui démarre du Visitor Center
Ns avions aussi visité le Devil’s Canyon Science and Learning Center, situé à l’entrée du Colorado NM.Ce musée a recréé un ensemble de différents dinosaures animés ( en arrivant à Grand Junction, on pénètre dans le pays des dinosaures : le quart N-E de l’Utah et la frange N-O du Colorado est richissime en ossements et en fossiles de bêtes préhistoriques).
"Est-ce que vous avez une autre idée de point d'étape en allant de Denver à Fruita? (sans passer plus au Sud, ce qui nous rallongerait trop en km)."
Voir mon 1er message sur votre topic : le Rocky Mountains NP, Mont Evans, ... , Idaho Springs, Georgetown, Glenwood Springs, la région d'Aspen (Leadville, Twin Lakes, col d'Independance, Maroon Lake, Hanging Lake, Crystal Mill), Black Canyon of the Gunnison, etc...
Après Vail, vs pourriez prévoir d'emprunter les routes 24 + 82 et faire des arrêts à: Leadville (petite ville minière du 19ème siècle) Twin Lakes Independance Pass Marron Bells (près de Aspen) voir http://ouestusa.fr/...n%20bells/maroon.php
Faire un tour sur la Grand Mesa en suivant la rte 65 (appelée Grand Mesa scenic and historic Byway) voir http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/byways/byways/2103/maps Cette montagne au sommet plat de 130 km², domine Grand Junction à 50 km à l’est. Elle s’élève à une altitude de 3000m et regorge de lacs. C’est un lieu privilégié pour randonneurs et cyclistes (bcp de cerfs, ours, chevreuils)
Une idée pour aller de Grand Junction à Moab (autrement que par I-70 + Hwy 128): emprunter la piste Gateway-Castleton
Ouest USA 2009 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2800143#2800143
5ème trip USA, 09/2013 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6186946#6186946
Bonsoir Nathalie,
Entre Denver et Glenwood Springs, vous avez l'ancienne ville minière Georgetown qui ne vous écartera pas de votre itinéraire. Nous avons visité son centre historique et avons fait un tour en train à vapeur (http://georgetownlooprr.com/our-history).

Vous pouvez visiter l'Hotel de Paris transformé en musée. C'était un hôtel qui a appartenu à un ancien mineur français. Son histoire est intéressante. Regardez là : http://hoteldeparismuseum.org/chronology.html
Nous avons pris l'I-70 sur le tronçon à partir de Glenwood Springs. C'est une route panoramique. Et vous verrez les paysages se transformer progressivement au fur et à mesure que vous allez vers l'ouest.
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Entre Denver et Glenwood Springs, vous avez l'ancienne ville minière Georgetown qui ne vous écartera pas de votre itinéraire. Nous avons visité son centre historique et avons fait un tour en train à vapeur (http://georgetownlooprr.com/our-history).


Vous pouvez visiter l'Hotel de Paris transformé en musée. C'était un hôtel qui a appartenu à un ancien mineur français. Son histoire est intéressante. Regardez là : http://hoteldeparismuseum.org/chronology.html
Nous avons pris l'I-70 sur le tronçon à partir de Glenwood Springs. C'est une route panoramique. Et vous verrez les paysages se transformer progressivement au fur et à mesure que vous allez vers l'ouest.
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Hiacinthe
Comme ancienne ville minière, vous avez aussi Leadville (bien plus importante que Georgetown) et son très intéressant musée sur l'exploitation des mines, mais cela vous obligerait à faire un crochet par rapport à l'itinéraire que vous avez prévu sur votre dernier projet.
C'est une jolie ville où nous avons fait également une étape. Nous avons passé une nuit au motel "Super 8".
Bonne soirée !
C'est une jolie ville où nous avons fait également une étape. Nous avons passé une nuit au motel "Super 8".
Bonne soirée !
Hiacinthe
Bonjour Bastinj
Merci beaucoup
Je pense que nous allons consacrer l'essentiel de notre journée de Glenwood à Fruita, à Colorado NM, sans faire trop de détour, pour avoir le plus de temps possible dans le parc puisque vous décrivez qu'il nécessite d'y passer plusieurs heures entre boucle en voiture et Brando.
Pour l'alternative pour se rendre à Moab pourquoi pas, mais cela nous obligerait à revenir en arrière depuis Fruita en retournant à Grand Junction
Bonne soirée !
Merci Hyacinthe ainsi que pour les photos
Nous avons aussi pris la I 70 l'année dernière, tellement belle
Pour le petit train de Georgetown il faut compter combien de temps?
"Pour l'alternative pour se rendre à Moab pourquoi pas, mais cela nous obligerait à revenir en arrière depuis Fruita en retournant à Grand Junction"
Non, pas revenir en arrière: Il faut sortir de l'I-70 à la sortie 19, voir éventuellement le musée cité, emprunter la Rim Rock Drive de Colorado NM qui débouche à Grand Junction, puis Gateway > Castelton > Moab voir https://goo.gl/maps/LFggCEo1xqv
Non, pas revenir en arrière: Il faut sortir de l'I-70 à la sortie 19, voir éventuellement le musée cité, emprunter la Rim Rock Drive de Colorado NM qui débouche à Grand Junction, puis Gateway > Castelton > Moab voir https://goo.gl/maps/LFggCEo1xqv
Ouest USA 2009 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2800143#2800143
5ème trip USA, 09/2013 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6186946#6186946
L'aller-retour en train sans la visite de la mine, c'est 1 h 15.
Bonne soirée !
Bonne soirée !
Hiacinthe
Ah d'accord!
C'est une très belle route egalement?
Beaucoup plus long que par la 128?
Merci beaucoup !
Oui, ça ns avait bien plu ... mais c'est une piste, donc bcp plus lent que les routes goudronnées
Ouest USA 2009 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2800143#2800143
5ème trip USA, 09/2013 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6186946#6186946
Bonsoir Nathalie,
Si ce n'est que pour voir le Great Salt Lake, il y a quelques endroits ou vous pouvez vous arreter pour avoir un apercu. Antelope Island, ceci est mon avis personnel. je n'y suis alle qu'une seule fois. Des amis etaient venus nous voir et au cours du voyage qu'ils ont fait avec nous, l'un d'eux voulaient absolument voir Antelope Island. et au finale il a ete decu, moi aussi😕 Mais ce n'est que mon avis, sur ce que j'aime ou n'aime pas.😉
Depuis Price je prefere de loin remonter par le Hwy 191 jusqu'au Freeway I-80 entre green River et Rock Springs et de prendre le Freeway pour quelques miles jusqu'a Rock Springs de de continuer vers le Nord sur le Hwy 19. C'est un tout petit plus long en temps et aussi en distance, mais a MON avis le parcours est plus sympa.
Si voir le Great Lake est une partie importante de votre parcours, alors passez par SLC.
Cordialeemnt
Alex
http://durandale2.blogspot.com/
How heavy do I journey on the way,
When what I seek (my weary travel’s end)
Shakespeare sonnet 50, vers 1- 2.
Bonjour à tous
J'en suis à boucler la dernière étape de mon voyage, et je cherche un endroit non loin de Denver sur le trajet retour de Rapid City (en fait Hill City) à Denver. Nous y resterions 1 jour entier (2 nuits), avant de reprendre l'avion à Denver le lendemain.
J'ai repéré Estes Park, pour avoir un aperçu des Rocky Mountains, ou encore Boulder avec semble t il pas mal d'activités possibles.
Y a t - il une étape que vous conseilleriez plus particulièrement?
Merci 🙂
Bonjour Nathalie,
Pour la partie autour de Denver CO, je laisse a d'autres le soin de vous repondre. Car il y a tres longtemps (Des annees) que je ne suis pas passe par la.
Bonnes fetes
Cordialement
Alex
http://durandale2.blogspot.com/
How heavy do I journey on the way,
When what I seek (my weary travel’s end)
Shakespeare sonnet 50, vers 1- 2.
Bonjour Alex
En fait ça ne doit pas inspirer grand monde car seul vous m'avez répondu!
Je vous souhaite de très bonnes fêtes
Hello
Estes Park avec la visite de Rocky Mountain NP semble l'endroit le plus indiqué. Pour rejoindre Denver, pas de manière directe, tu peux emprunter la Trail Ridge Rd.
Estes Park avec la visite de Rocky Mountain NP semble l'endroit le plus indiqué. Pour rejoindre Denver, pas de manière directe, tu peux emprunter la Trail Ridge Rd.
Bonjour Nathalie,
Comme Thibaud (Itat), pour cette étape au nord de Denver, je vois Estes Park où nous avons passé 2 nuits. C'est une ville agréable et très bien située pour une visite de Rocky Mountain NP. Et, si cela vous intéresse, au centre-ville de Estes Park, il y a beaucoup de boutiques.
Nous avons dormi au "Alpine Trail Ridge Inn" à quelques minutes de Rocky Mountain NP et avons dîné au restaurant juste à côté de l'hôtel, le "Sundeck" (bon et copieux). En dînant, nous avons eu la bonne surprise de voir un cerf en regardant par la fenêtre. Il allait brouter de l'autre côté de la route.
Si vous avez le temps, entre Estes Park et Denver, vous pourriez prendre la Peak to Peak scenic Byway en passant par "Chapel on the rock" > Nederland > Black Hawk.
Bonnes fêtes de fin d'année et bonne préparation !
Comme Thibaud (Itat), pour cette étape au nord de Denver, je vois Estes Park où nous avons passé 2 nuits. C'est une ville agréable et très bien située pour une visite de Rocky Mountain NP. Et, si cela vous intéresse, au centre-ville de Estes Park, il y a beaucoup de boutiques.
Nous avons dormi au "Alpine Trail Ridge Inn" à quelques minutes de Rocky Mountain NP et avons dîné au restaurant juste à côté de l'hôtel, le "Sundeck" (bon et copieux). En dînant, nous avons eu la bonne surprise de voir un cerf en regardant par la fenêtre. Il allait brouter de l'autre côté de la route.
Si vous avez le temps, entre Estes Park et Denver, vous pourriez prendre la Peak to Peak scenic Byway en passant par "Chapel on the rock" > Nederland > Black Hawk.
Bonnes fêtes de fin d'année et bonne préparation !
Hiacinthe
Merci à tous pour vos réponses
Ce sera Estes Park donc 🙂
Très bonnes fêtes à tous!
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Houston and NASA Space Center: See the Gulf of Mexico/America.
San Antonio and the missions.
Fort Stockton for an overnight stop.
El Paso via Guadalupe Mountains: El Paso and White Sands.
Tucson and the Pima Air & Space Museum: Tombstone, Bisbee.
Phoenix:
Still working on the program.
Sedona: Round trip around the area via Flagstaff and Williams, or the Grand Canyon (already done) – we’ll decide on the spot.
Albuquerque: Santa Fe, Turquoise Trail, Los Alamos.
Amarillo via Route 66: Old Route 66 in the city; Big Texas Ranch Steak 😏.
Dallas: JFK Museum; Perot Museum; West End district.
And through it all – the road, the road, and more road!!!
We’ll adapt day by day based on our mental and physical state (we’re not exactly spring chickens).
Return to France: Dallas-Montpellier via CDG.
Cheers!
Hello everyone,
After our first trip as a young couple to the West in 2007 (yes, that doesn’t make us any younger!), we’re planning to go back in 2028, but this time as a family of four! (We have two boys who’ll be 5½ and 13 years old in the summer of 2028.)
Our plan is to combine a few big cities (SF and LA, maybe San Diego) with national parks and state parks, mostly! Ideally, we’d like to leave at the end of June and head back to France around July 19–20, so we can enjoy the first week of the Olympic Games in Los Angeles.
Since we already did the "loop" in 2007, there are must-see places we absolutely want to revisit—and especially share with our kids: Bryce Canyon, Yosemite, and above all, the Grand Canyon, which is still the most incredible thing I’ve ever seen on Earth!
On the other hand, some places didn’t leave a big impression on us for various reasons, so we’re not making them a priority: Antelope Canyon, Monument Valley, for example.
We’re planning ahead, but might as well be smart about it😏
Do you have any tips for a fun and doable itinerary over about 20–25 days with kids, without rushing?
Thanks in advance for your feedback😉
After our first trip as a young couple to the West in 2007 (yes, that doesn’t make us any younger!), we’re planning to go back in 2028, but this time as a family of four! (We have two boys who’ll be 5½ and 13 years old in the summer of 2028.)
Our plan is to combine a few big cities (SF and LA, maybe San Diego) with national parks and state parks, mostly! Ideally, we’d like to leave at the end of June and head back to France around July 19–20, so we can enjoy the first week of the Olympic Games in Los Angeles.
Since we already did the "loop" in 2007, there are must-see places we absolutely want to revisit—and especially share with our kids: Bryce Canyon, Yosemite, and above all, the Grand Canyon, which is still the most incredible thing I’ve ever seen on Earth!
On the other hand, some places didn’t leave a big impression on us for various reasons, so we’re not making them a priority: Antelope Canyon, Monument Valley, for example.
We’re planning ahead, but might as well be smart about it😏
Do you have any tips for a fun and doable itinerary over about 20–25 days with kids, without rushing?
Thanks in advance for your feedback😉
Hi everyone,
We went as a family to Mount Rushmore in 2023, where my son bought a multi-function pocket knife like the one below with his name engraved—'NOAH'. Unfortunately, he just lost it, and he was really attached to it. So, if there’s a kind soul passing by Mount Rushmore who could bring one back for me (I’d obviously cover all costs), that would be amazing for my son.
Thanks so much.
We went as a family to Mount Rushmore in 2023, where my son bought a multi-function pocket knife like the one below with his name engraved—'NOAH'. Unfortunately, he just lost it, and he was really attached to it. So, if there’s a kind soul passing by Mount Rushmore who could bring one back for me (I’d obviously cover all costs), that would be amazing for my son.
Thanks so much.
hi everyone
I’m planning a world trip and I’m looking for great tips on accommodation in the United States.
Do you have any good deals to share, please?
thanks
Hello everyone! Really damaged due to flooding caused by runoff after forest fires (a total mess!), does anyone in this friendly forum have any updates on the Apache Trail between Apache Junction and Roosevelt Dam? Is there still a section of the road that’s tough to navigate?
Best,
Best,
Hi there,
We're leaving at the end of June and will be driving the route between Buffalo and Cody. We’ve already booked our accommodations and a rodeo in Cody, but during the day, we’ll be driving between the two and I’m unsure about the itinerary. Which route do you think is the most pleasant, interesting, or scenic between: - The northern route via Highway 14 with Sheridan, Lowell, etc. - The southern route with Highways 16/20/14, passing by Loaf Mountain Overlook, Powder River Pass, Ten Sleep Canyon...
We’ll be in a car, so we should be able to drive on any road. Thanks for your input!
Laura
We're leaving at the end of June and will be driving the route between Buffalo and Cody. We’ve already booked our accommodations and a rodeo in Cody, but during the day, we’ll be driving between the two and I’m unsure about the itinerary. Which route do you think is the most pleasant, interesting, or scenic between: - The northern route via Highway 14 with Sheridan, Lowell, etc. - The southern route with Highways 16/20/14, passing by Loaf Mountain Overlook, Powder River Pass, Ten Sleep Canyon...
We’ll be in a car, so we should be able to drive on any road. Thanks for your input!
Laura
Hi everyone! 🙂
I’m almost done planning our September road trip. After our 3-night visit to Sequoia, we’ll have a stopover night in Coalinga (to break up the drive). We’ll be staying two nights in Monterey and would like to stop along the way to visit one side of Pinnacles National Park. We’re torn between the West entrance and the East entrance, and we’d like to do a short hike of no more than 2 hours since we don’t want to arrive too late in Monterey.
This park is split into two distinct zones with no connection between them, and the mileage from Coalinga to Monterey is pretty much the same for both. Which area do you recommend visiting—east or west? And which route is the most scenic?
I’ve spotted two short hikes: - East: Moses Spring to Rim Trail Loop - West: Balconies Cliffs Cave Loop
Has anyone been there, or do you have another hike to suggest?
Thanks in advance, and have a great afternoon! Marcalamar 🙂
I’m almost done planning our September road trip. After our 3-night visit to Sequoia, we’ll have a stopover night in Coalinga (to break up the drive). We’ll be staying two nights in Monterey and would like to stop along the way to visit one side of Pinnacles National Park. We’re torn between the West entrance and the East entrance, and we’d like to do a short hike of no more than 2 hours since we don’t want to arrive too late in Monterey.
This park is split into two distinct zones with no connection between them, and the mileage from Coalinga to Monterey is pretty much the same for both. Which area do you recommend visiting—east or west? And which route is the most scenic?
I’ve spotted two short hikes: - East: Moses Spring to Rim Trail Loop - West: Balconies Cliffs Cave Loop
Has anyone been there, or do you have another hike to suggest?
Thanks in advance, and have a great afternoon! Marcalamar 🙂
Hi there,
We’re heading to Las Vegas this summer and would love to rent a classic convertible Cadillac or something similar. Any recommendations? Thanks.
We’re heading to Las Vegas this summer and would love to rent a classic convertible Cadillac or something similar. Any recommendations? Thanks.
Hi everyone! 🙂
Just a quick question about King Canyon and Sequoia National Park.
Before our night in Miramonte, we plan to visit King Canyon. The next stop will be two nights in Three Rivers to explore Sequoia National Park. I wanted to go all the way to Roaring River Falls on the King Canyon Scenic Byway and then turn back to head to Miramonte. Since we’re coming from Oakhurst, Google Maps says it’s 300 km and 5 hours of driving. Since we also want to hike to see the sequoias (Big Stump Area and Grand Grove) before tackling the King Canyon Scenic Byway, the timing’s going to be tight. How far do you recommend going before turning back to miss as few points of interest as possible on the King Canyon Scenic Byway? Thanks for your advice, and have a great evening!
Marcalamar 🙂
Hi everyone!
After years of hoping, waiting, planning, then changing, saving, and searching for the best possible route... we're FINALLY off this summer for a 5-week road trip in the West.
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine