Pour l'instant je n'ai eu qu'un seul échange avec elle.
On va voir si on peut accélérer un peu les mails et les réservations.
Parce que vous m'avez tous stressé !! 🤪
(Tant mieux remarque ! 😉 )
Mais du coup je comprends plus rien !!
Tu connais le Botswana toi ?
d'où tu connais Tara ? 😇
Savuti réservé pour deux nuits ! Enfin !! 😮
Les réservations m'ont l'air un peu plus lentes qu'en Namibie... J'ai cru qu'on aller jamais y arriver ! 😇
Une bonne chose de faite. 🙂
Plus qu'à prendre les billets d'avion ! 😏
Bon alors non seulement le taux euro/pula déconne en ce moment, mais en plus il faut ajouter 5% pour tout paiement par carte de crédit ! 🤪
Sinon, BotswanaFootprints me propose ceci :
Please also consider : Okavango Air Rescue
(P175 per annum per person)
Okavango Air Rescue has a helicopter that will come collect you in the bush in the event of an emergency or illness.
They operate in Northern Botswana, down (inclusive) towards the Central Kalahari.
For a P175 Patronage fee, you help keep this helicopter in the air (with qualified emergency doctor, anesthesiologist and intensive care specialist, Misha Kruck and her team). As a patron, they will collect you in an emergency and treat your injuries and they will deal/invoice your travel/medical insurance companies directly.
This means you will still be responsible for your medical and travel insurance but Okavango Air Rescue is the quickest way to get help in the bush, and well worth the added peace of mind. Some medical insurance companies try to send an ambulance from town, and this can take days.
The weight limit on the helicopter is 120kgs, but if this limit is exceeded – the helicopter will fly the trauma team to you, and they will stay with you until ground support arrives.
J1 : Arrivée à Joburg Nuit à Hartbeesportdam - Eagle Waters Resort Oberon Camp
J2 : Mokolodi Nature Reserve
J3 : Khama Rhino Sancturay
J4 : Khama Rhino Sanctuary
J5 : Central Kalahari Game Reserve - Deception
J6 : Central Kalahari Game Reserve – Passarge 2
J7 : Central Kalahari Game Reserve – Kori 3
J8 : Mkgadakgadi NP – Tiaan’s
J9 : Mkgadakgadi NP – Tiaan’s
J10 : Mkgadakgadi NP – Baines Baobab
J10 : Nxai Pan NP – South Camp
J12 : Lekhubu Island
J13 : Kasane - Senyati
J14 : Kasane - Senyati
J15 : Chobe NP – Savuti (27/07/17)
J16 : Chobe NP - Savuti (28/07/17)
J17 : Moremi Game Reserve - Dijara
J18 : Moremi Game Reserve - Dijara
J19 : Moremi Game Reserve – Xakanaxa (ou Third Bridge ??)
J20 : Audi Camp
J21 : Gobabis – Xain Quaz Camp(Namibie)
Alors voila ce que ça donne pour la partie Botswana pour le moment,
J'ai supprimé une nuit à Hartbeestportdam car je me suis dis que ça ne valait pas le coup d'y passer une journée et ajouter une journée de location de 4x4, sachant que l'objectif principal du voyage est le Botswana.
J'ai également enlevé une nuit à Mokolodi car bien que ça soit annoncé comme une des meilleures choses à faire au Botswana, je n'ai trouvé que peu d'informations sur cette réserve et apparemment il faut payer un supplément pour avoir le droit d'y circuler soit même. 😠
Ce sera donc juste une étape.
Et j'ai ajouté 1 nuit à Baines Baobab.
Je pense que je vais pas tarder à réserver cette partie du voyage.
Après je ne sais pas encore si on passe une nuit ou deux sur Maun... ça va dépendre de la balade en Mokoro et des activités à faire sur place.
Billet prit avec British en passant par Londres. 850€ parce qu'on a voulut rajouter un jour et partir le samedi (ce qui n'est certes pas très pratique pour faire les courses le dimanche) sinon c'était 800€ en partant le dimanche.
Voila ce que ça donne.
J1 : Arrivée à Joburg
J2 :
J3 :
J4 :
J5 : Khama Rhino Sancturay
J6 : Khama Rhino Sanctuary
J7 : Central Kalahari Game Reserve - Sunday
J8 : Central Kalahari Game Reserve – Passarge
J9 : Central Kalahari Game Reserve – Kori
J10 : Mkgadakgadi NP – Tiaan’s
J11 : Mkgadakgadi NP – Tiaan’s
J12 : Nxai Pan NP – Baine's Baobas
J13 : Nxai Pan NP – South Camp
J14 : Lekhubu Island
J15 : Kasane - Senyati
J16 : Kasane - Senyati
J17 : Chobe NP – Mwandi View (Pas de place à Ihaha 🙁 )
J18 : Chobe NP - Savuti
J19 : Chobe NP - Savuti
J20 : Moremi Game Reserve - Dijara
J21 : Moremi Game Reserve - Dijara
J22 : Moremi Game Reserve – Xakanaxa
J23 : ??
J24 : Audi Camp
Je voudrais rajouter une nuit dans Moremi.
Qu'est-ce qui est le mieux ? Third Bridge ? Xakanaxa ou South Gate ?
Du coup pour le Mokoro il faut aller à Maun pour retourner dans Moremi ??
Qu'est-ce qui est le mieux ? Third Bridge ? Xakanaxa ou South Gate ?
perso je voterais pour Third Bridge, beaucoup d'animaux et différent niveau paysage (plus ouvert que Xanakaxa)
Du coup pour le Mokoro il faut aller à Maun pour retourner dans Moremi ??
regarde si tu ne peux pas le faire à partir de Dijara
A Xanakaxa tu peux aussi faire un tour de bateau dans le lagon du même nom.
A Maun soit tu fais un petit tour dans le coin et tu n'est pas vraiment dans le delta, soit ils vous trimballeront sur des kms avant de rejoindre une zone intéressante.
Après des semaines d'exams, de stage et de boulot je profite de la période des fêtes pour me replonger dans la préparation de ce voyage qui se rapproche petit petit.
- Alors pour Moremi plus aucun camp dispo pour le 31 juillet. Ça m'apprendra...
Je vais contacter Belafrica pour voir si eux ils peuvent me trouver une place.
- Je vais contacter Dijara pour voi ce qu'il me propose pour le Mokoro meme si du coup ça nous fait une journée de moins de safari.
- Pour le véhicule ce sera un Hilux double cab équipé je pense. Plus qu'à choisir le loueur...
- Autre chose : Senyati ne prend pas la carte de crédit. Du coup je suis obligé de faire un virement à leur banque située en Afrique du Sud. Sauf que le taux de change change tout le temps et que je ne sais pas quel sont les frais de banque. Du coup je ne sais pas trop comment faire. La galère... Quelqu'un a déjà eu ce soucis ?
Je n avais pas effectué de virement pour Senyati.
Tu es sûr pour la carte ?
(Je me demande si nous n avions pas envoyé une autorisation remplie de débit sur la carte)
ne traîne tout de même pas trop sinon il n'y aura plus rien à choisir😉
Pour le Senyati je ne me rappelle pas non plus avoir fait de virement, peut-être juste les coordonnées de la carte. Tu peux proposer un paiement par Paypal.
Sinon même si le Rand remonte c'est toujours un cours intéressant.
Oui il y a peut-être des frais de virement je doute que le montant soit significatif par rapport au prix du voyage (genre autour de 10 - 20 €)
Alors oui Senyati accepte les paiements paypal mais pas les cartes de crédits !
JJe vais voir si je peux réserver via Botswana footsprint sinon j'utiliserai des applications que ma conseillé Régis. 🙂
Oui je me dépêche pour le loueur, j'attends le devis de safari4x4hire mais sinon je pense que ce sera bushlore j'ai eu une réponse rapide et un devis intéressant.
Pour le Mokoro on m'a dit qu'on pouvait en faire à Kwai village mais qu'on ne pouvait pas réserver...
Oui je me dépêche pour le loueur, j'attends le devis de safari4x4hire mais sinon je pense que ce sera bushlore j'ai eu une réponse rapide et un devis intéressant.
Coucou,
et tu as vu Bushtracker? Au niveau des prestations, de l'état des voitures, du suivi et du sérieux, on les a trouvés très très au dessus de Boshlore... aucune comparaison possible même! 🙂
Anne-Marie
Carnets : Namibie en camping car, l'Est de l'Afrique du Sud, du KTP au Kaokoland en 4x4, la Norvège en hiver 2x, l'Ecosse en hiver, la Namibie avec remorque, l'Islande en camping car en juin, le tout avec 4 enfants, dans le profil https://voyageforum.com/v.f?membre=Caperam;
Aaah, je n'avais pas noté que c'était à Kwai que vous aviez fait du mokoro, comment vous vous y êtes prit ? C'était bien bien bien ? 😎 Faut prévoir combien de poulasse environ par personne ?
J'ai cru comprendre qu'à Xakanaxa on pouvait en faire aussi.
En fait les camps sont à peu près aménagé ?
Je pensais qu'ils y avait juste un emplacement avec de quoi se doucher... 😊
Comment ça tout roule ? 😄😄
J'espère bien que tous les 4x4 de Bushlore roulent ! 😇
J'avais fait un devis avec Bushtrackers en Juin pour regarder les prix.
Ça avait l'air intéressant.
Je les ai relancé cette semaine, je vais voir combien ils me prennent pour prendre le 4x4 à Joburg et le déposer à Windhoek.
L'autre problème que je rencontre c'est que je voudrais un double cabine avec une seule tente sur le toit et ils ont tous des simple cabine+ 1 rooftent ou des DC + 2 rooftent... 😐
Oui oui ça avance, un peu plus de 6 mois avant le départ ! 😇
Avril !! Décidément tu pars toujours à cette période, je me trompe ? 😛
J'espère qu'il y aura un sublime carnet avant mon départ ! Il est où le programme ? 😏
Question franchissements les seuls que nous aurons à faire seront les bridges de Moremi, j'espère que ça ira car je n'ai aucune expérience dans ce domaine et je ne suis pas sur que les assurances prennent en charge les 4x4 noyés dans l'Okavango. 😄
Sinon j'ai reçu ce matin le devis de Safari4x4Hire. 🙂
Exactement le même prix que Bushlore.
Petite différence quand même dans la présentation, Bushlore m'a envoyé 3 belles pièces jointes très détaillées tandis que safari4x4hire a mit plusieurs jours pour m'envoyer un devis par mail pas très sexy. 😇
Par ailleurs les véhicules de Bushlore m'ont l'air plus équipés que ce de Safari4x4hire :
BUSHLORE :
Bushlore Camping Equipment
Aluminium Roof rack
Gas cylinder holder
Eezi Awn rooftop tent/s
Ground tents if specified
Draw storage system
Eezi Awning (optional, at additional cost)
60L Water-tank (full)
2 Ratchet tie downs
Fold up table
Camp chairs
Battery powered lamp
Torch
Gas cylinder (full) and cooker top
Gas cylinder and lantern
Axe
Spade
First aid kit
Camp shower
Bedding - sleeping bag, sheets, towels, mattress and pillows
Mobile toilet (on request)
40L Fridge/Freezer
Fold up shower or toilet enclosure (on request)
Portable wash-up basin
Full kitchen - See Gomo Kitchen below
Bushlore Safari Equipment
Long range fuel tank (129/160 litre)
Front and or Rear diff lock/center diff lock
Dual battery system
Tow strap
Jumper cables
Rubber sand ladders
Puncture repair kit
Towbar (on request)
Fire extinguisher
Grass seed net
Basic tool kit
Highlift jack/ Air jack / standard jack
Additional spare tyre (2nd spare)
Bullbar
Air compressor and tyre pressure gauge
Steel canopy on double cabs, side and rear opening*
Winch (on request only, additional cost)
GPS (on request only, additional cost)
Two way radios (Optional – additional cost)
Satellite phone (Optional – additional cost)
Frying Pan
No 10 cast iron bake pot
Lid
Collapsible Tripod
Stainless steel Braai grid
Camp kitchen
Cutting board
Wooden spoon
Bread knife
Tongs
Serving spoon
Butchers knife
Utility knife
Utensil container
Utility container - L
Billy can
Kettle
Mixing/Salad bowl
Can opener
Pot lid lifter
Spice container
Dishcloth
SAFARI4x4HIRE :
· 1x GARMIN GPS + T4A with Map Book (Que j'ai déja)...
· 2nd Driver (Un peu logique...)
· Cross Border Fees (Encore heureux quand on voit la one way fee ! 😄 )
· 2nd Spare Wheel
· 1x Pair of Sand Tracks - if requested
· 1x Airlift-jack - if requested
· 1x 20L Jerry Can//extra Diesel
· 1x 20L Solar Shower - if requested
· 1x 500W Inverter - if requested
· 1x Roof top tent (tent sleeps 2 people)
· Long range fuel tank/145L
· 50L Fridge-freezer (10L de plus que celui de Bushlore.)
· Camping equipment for 2 people
+ cooker top, Barbecue grid, Table, 2x Chairs, Camp light, 20L Water tank]
· Basic tools (incl. a Compressor & Tyre Repair kit), Tow-rope, Booster cables, Spade, Axe, 2x Tri-angles, Fire extinguisher, 1x Spare wheel, Vehicle jack
· Radio-CD/Air-con/Power-steering/Electric windows/Basic First-Aid kit/Emergency vest
Enfin, j'ai contacté Bushlore au sujet de l'entretien de leur matériel de camping et de leurs véhicules et voici leur réponse :
The vehicles and equipment go through extensive mechanical and equipment checks before and after every rental
Je ne m'attendais pas à une autre réponse mais au moins j'ai posé ma question. 😇
Voila, donc pour l'instant je penche plutot du coté de Bushlore malgré la mésaventure des Caperam.
Je me laisse encore quelques jours.
Toute réflexion est la bienvenue ! 🙂
Si le prix de Avis Safari est dans le même ordre d'idée, je te conseille de le prendre eux. D'après les retours que j'en ai leurs voitures sont tip top
"Je suis africain, non pas parce que je suis né en Afrique, mais parce que l'Afrique est née en moi." Kwame Nkrumah.
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
Avril !! Décidément tu pars toujours à cette période, je me trompe ? 😛
Oui, c'est une période qu'on aime bien. On partira plutôt fin avril début mai (afin d'éviter les vacances sud'af qui sont début avril !!)
J'espère qu'il y aura un sublime carnet avant mon départ !
Merci 😊, je vais essayer.
Il est où le programme ? 😏
J1. Arrivée au Botswana à Kasane et nuit en AirBnB à la Maison Bleue
J2 à J4. Direction la Namibie par le Chobe River Front, 3 nuits à Mavunje Community Camp (Kongola) => drive dans les parcs (Mamili, Mududmu)
J5 et J6. 2 nuits à Shametu Campsite (Divundu) => drive dans les parcs de Susuwe, Buffalo Core Area, Mahango et petite balade à Popa Falls
J7. retour au Botswana, nuit à Tshima Bush Camp => drive à Mahango
J8 à J12. dans l'ordre 1 nuit à south gate, 1 à Third bridge, 2 à Xakanaka, 1 nuit à Dijara => drive dans Moremi et Khwai
J13. Maun
J14 à J16. nuit dans un lodge dans l'Okavango.
Nous avons loué un Landcruiser 79, avec tente au sol (espérons qu'il n'y aura pas d'intrus dans la tente !!)
J2 à J4. Direction la Namibie par le Chobe River Front, 3 nuits à Mavunje Community Camp (Kongola) => drive dans les parcs (Mamili, Mududmu) J5 et J6. 2 nuits à Shametu Campsite (Divundu) => drive dans les parcs de Susuwe, Buffalo Core Area, Mahango et petite balade à Popa Falls
J7. retour au Botswana, nuit à Tshima Bush Camp => drive à Mahango
J8 à J12. dans l'ordre 1 nuit à south gate, 1 à Third bridge, 2 à Xakanaka, 1 nuit à Dijara => drive dans Moremi et Khwai
J13. Maun
J14 à J16. nuit dans un lodge dans l'Okavango.
... ça fait à peine pas rêver 😛 😎
Si on n'avait pas été en Patagonie j'aurais bien aimé être une petite souris 😊
- Toujours pas de réponse de Avis Safari.
- Bushtrackers ne peut pas récupérer le 4x4 à Windhoek pour cette période.
- Asco m'a fait un joli devis. Ils présentent bien mais ça reste quand même plus cher que les loueurs sudaf.
Si Anne Marie ne m'avait pas fait part de leur mauvaise expérience avec Bushlore j'aurais loué avec eux les yeux fermés. Ils sont moins cher, répondent immédiatement, et ont leur dépot à Joburg (contrairement à safari4x4hire qui est localisé sur Pretoria) mais je pense que je vais jouer la sagesse et finaliser avec safari4x4hire.
- Asco m'a fait un joli devis. Ils présentent bien mais ça reste quand même plus cher que les loueurs sudaf.
Pour avoir loué avec eux cette année, Asco c'est le top. Ils sont plus chers, mais tu n'auras pas cette qualité d'équipement et de services avec des loueurs sud'af.
56500 ZAR avec Safari4x4Hire (avec quelques extras)
68450 ZAR avec Avis (sans le téléphone satellite ! 😮)..
Mais au final on va prendre que 26 jours !
En tout cas merci beaucoup pour tous ces conseils, ça m'a permis de me faire une bonne idée des prix et d'avoir une panoplie de réponses et de devis qui seront surement très utile pour un prochain voyage. 🙂
J'espère que tout se passera bien avec Safari4x4Hire. Je ferai un retour de toute façon ! 😉
J enleverais une nuit au karoo np pour une nuit de plus entre luderitz et le namaqua.
Au karoo np, je reserverais une des nuits dans la partie 4x4.
Pour le debut du voyage, je n irais pas au Kruger qui ne nécessite pas de 4x4 mais à Marakele et Mapungubwe.
Ca fera en plus un gros détour en moins...
Vu qu'Okonjima est complet, j'ai regardé Erindi pour ma dernière nuit en Namibie . Y a du pour : possibilité de self drive et du contre : le rapport qualité prix semble plutôt mauvais de l avis des voyageurs. Faut dire qu à environ 800 rands l'emplacement de camping, ça a intérêt à être top... 🤪
En fait, comme Pierre, je recherche une etape en dur pour une nuit post de nombreux campings...
Mais mon budget serait plus autour de 100-120 euros maxi la double.
Je crains que ta suggestion ne dépasse ce montant. ..😊
J enleverais une nuit au karoo np pour une nuit de plus entre luderitz et le namaqua.
Au karoo np, je reserverais une des nuits dans la partie 4x4.
Pour le debut du voyage, je n irais pas au Kruger qui ne nécessite pas de 4x4 mais à Marakele et Mapungubwe.
Ca fera en plus un gros détour en moins...
Vu qu'Okonjima est complet, j'ai regardé Erindi pour ma dernière nuit en Namibie . Y a du pour : possibilité de self drive et du contre : le rapport qualité prix semble plutôt mauvais de l avis des voyageurs. Faut dire qu à environ 800 rands l'emplacement de camping, ça a intérêt à être top... 🤪
Coucou Agnès !! 🙂
Le Kruger c'est parce que nous serons peut-etre avec nos meilleurs amis qui ne sont jamais allé en Afrique. Et les camps du kruger nous ont beaucoup plus aussi.🙂 Avant le botswana ça peut etre top !
Par contre en effet... pas sur qu'on puisse faire le détour !
Je me laisse un petit mois pour me décider.
Erindi me dit bien moi ! 😇
C'est 900N$ c'est vrai mais c'est jusqu'à 6 personnes donc c'est pas de l'arnaque non plus...
Par rapport au camping du botswana qui sont à 50€/pers alors qu'il n'y a que des toilettes. 😄
Et les photos du camp ont l'air top.
Nous on va peut-être prendre un chalet à 2000N$.
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Après 20 jours en Ouganda, je retrouve mon père pour un safari de 3 jours (cela lui convient). Nous nous retrouvons à Nairobi et nous avons la journée pour nous deplacer dans un Parc (le plus loin de Nairobi pour éviter la foule?) et y passer 4 nuits avant de retourner à la capitale pour la France.
J'aurais souhaité vos recommendations car je lis beaucoup de choses três interessantes sur ce forum.
March or May 2027.
Around 15 days in the Western Cape,
then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George.
The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode...
From George:
Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1.
Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna.
Question:
What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339.
And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340.
Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed?
Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert?
If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts?
From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both).
Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area?
Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me...
(For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...).
Any feedback from the pros?
Well, that’s about it...
I’m open to any other tips or advice!
Hi there,
I’m considering camping in Nyungwe Park with my family (2 adults, 2 kids) at Uwinka campsite. Problem: the park rents the tent but without any gear (mattresses, blankets). We don’t have a car. Is it possible to rent or buy mattresses and blankets near the park, please?
Thanks for your help
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
Thanks
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Hello,
We’re planning a route from Maun to Kazane and Victoria Falls for May 2027 in a Toyota Hilux 4x4, staying in lodges (no camping). Here’s the rough outline:
- Maun: Arrival likely from Johannesburg, 2 nights
- Khwai: 2 nights
- Return to Maun
- Need to decide on a stop between Maun and Sepopa?
- Sepopa: 2 nights
- Cross into Namibia: Bagani, 2 nights
- Kongola: 2 nights
- Katima Mulilo: 2 nights
- Kasane: 3 or 4 nights
- Victoria Falls: 1 or 2 nights
- Return to France from Kasane or Victoria Falls
What’s the road condition like between Maun and Khwai? The stop names are approximate based on accommodations.
Thanks for any feedback on this plan!
Ailleurs 64
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks.
We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old.
We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions:
- How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?).
- Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice.
- I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that.
- Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas!
Gabriel
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg.
This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights).
D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights)
Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai).
D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights).
D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE).
D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6.
If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too.
Thanks! 🙂
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland.
Could you share any tips on:
- the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar)
- your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours
- reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are:
- Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional
- Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive
- Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me.
Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works...
Thanks to everyone for your help.
Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature.
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We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa?
As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult?
We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :)
We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend.
See you on the road with Doddy
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB
D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon
D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger
D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area
D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route)
D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this:
- Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective.
First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...).
That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on.
The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start...
During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.)
The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance.
Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page).
Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water),
– Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places,
– Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly,
– One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
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Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored:
– services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water),
– hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments,
– visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly,
– one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment.
To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone.
Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera
Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo
Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera
Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?)
Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 4: Full day in Tarangire
Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO
Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome...
Thanks
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works.
I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!!
I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh…
Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car??
If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali?
Thanks so much for your help…
Best regards
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be:
- Hwange
- Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona)
- Mana Pools
- Harare
- Gonarezhou
- Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work.
I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts.
So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza
Ngenda
Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi
Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas)
Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions:
-Is French still widely spoken?
-Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info?
-Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back?
-Is it possible to go hiking solo?
-Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share.
Looking forward to exchanging more!
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind.
I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south:
14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie
17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza
20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara
22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants
25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere.
28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel.
29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance!
Nicole
Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’d like to return to Africa and stay in a lodge where I can see animals—not necessarily the Big Five—without needing any transport once I arrive at the lodge, and at a price under $250 per day for two people with full board. The week-long stay is planned for late June into early July. I’m looking for suggestions. Thanks in advance!
Hi, I’d like to travel to Ethiopia as a solo 60-year-old woman, backpacking style, between December 2025 and January 2026.
I’m wondering about the current state of the country: unrest, safety concerns, etc.
Government websites advise against going, saying it’s too dangerous.
But I’m skeptical—they tend to be overly cautious.
So I’m looking for reliable information, though I’m not sure where to find it.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
We’re a group of four seventy-something retirees and we’re planning a 4-week trip to South Africa. We’re seasoned "adventurers" used to multi-week stays (we’ve been to India seven times, Mexico, Thailand, Laos, Myanmar, Australia, etc.).
For South Africa, we’re thinking of covering most of the trip in a private vehicle and taking flights for inter-state transfers.
We’re interested in meeting people, learning about the country’s evolution, exploring major cities, visiting traditional villages, and seeing wildlife.
Here’s the itinerary we’re considering:
Johannesburg – 2 days (we’ll pass through again later)
Pretoria – 2 days
Blyde River Canyon and Graskop – 1 day
Acornhoek – 1 day
Letaba – 2 days
Lobamba – 2 days
Johannesburg – 1 day
Flight to Cape Town
Cape Town – 3 days
Cape of Good Hope – 1 day
Stellenbosch – 1 day
Hermanus – 1 day
Mossel Bay – 2 days
Oudtshoorn
Wilderness – 2 days
Knysna
Port Elizabeth – 2 days
Addo Elephant Park
Flight back to Johannesburg
Johannesburg – 1 day
Return to Paris
Could you share your thoughts on this itinerary? We’ll be renting a vehicle to explore both regions.
We can easily add 4–5 more days to the trip if needed.
We’re looking at traveling either between April and May 2026 or in October/November 2026.
I’ll follow up later to discuss the best safari options and get a rough budget estimate.
Thanks to everyone who takes the time to read this and share their thoughts!