Phnom Penh vaut-elle le coup d'être visitée?
by Jyrama
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Bonjour
Complètement d'accord avec vous là dessus... j'ai préféré au Cambodge faire la traversée Phnom Penh ..Battambang en bateau (7h) plutôt qu'en bus car j'ai vu au moins tout ce qui se passait , comment vivaient les gens , les "hello" des enfants, et ce souvenir restera gravé en moi très longtemps..
Mais parfois si l'on ne veut pas perdre de temps pour se rendre quelque part il faut reconnaître qu'un transport supplémentaire peut servir.
Je ne prendrai pas leur train de toute façon car je pense que ce sera mon dernier voyage en Asie en Janvier 2018...çà fait six ans que je vais toujours en Asie...Il serait temps d'envisager un autre continent😏 Bonne journée
Complètement d'accord avec vous là dessus... j'ai préféré au Cambodge faire la traversée Phnom Penh ..Battambang en bateau (7h) plutôt qu'en bus car j'ai vu au moins tout ce qui se passait , comment vivaient les gens , les "hello" des enfants, et ce souvenir restera gravé en moi très longtemps..
Mais parfois si l'on ne veut pas perdre de temps pour se rendre quelque part il faut reconnaître qu'un transport supplémentaire peut servir.
Je ne prendrai pas leur train de toute façon car je pense que ce sera mon dernier voyage en Asie en Janvier 2018...çà fait six ans que je vais toujours en Asie...Il serait temps d'envisager un autre continent😏 Bonne journée
Bonjour,
Il n'y a pas de liaison maritime entre PPenh et Battambang, vous êtes sûre du trajet ? Survoler rapidement un pays peut laisser parfois que de vagues souvenirs et une impression négative. J'ai beau arpenter l'ASE depuis plusieurs années, je n'ai toujours pas l'impression de la connaitre et je ne me lasse pas de cette partie de la planète.
Pour Kobesan, le barrage EDF au Laos a été achevé en 2009 et le résultat est plus que mitigé: : multinationales.org/...aut-pas-faire-sur-le Le marche nocturne de Luang Prabang est aujourd'hui rempli de portables et autres babioles de mauvaise qualité made in china, une réplique touristique du marché Phosy où légumes et fruits locaux ont été remplacés par des produits importés. Ce qui ne change pas par contre, c'est cette bienveillance dont les laotiens ou cambodgiens savent encore faire preuve envers l'étranger et je rejoins Bongphilou, si les gouvernements bradent leur pays, les gens n'ont pas perdu leur âme.
Il n'y a pas de liaison maritime entre PPenh et Battambang, vous êtes sûre du trajet ? Survoler rapidement un pays peut laisser parfois que de vagues souvenirs et une impression négative. J'ai beau arpenter l'ASE depuis plusieurs années, je n'ai toujours pas l'impression de la connaitre et je ne me lasse pas de cette partie de la planète.
Pour Kobesan, le barrage EDF au Laos a été achevé en 2009 et le résultat est plus que mitigé: : multinationales.org/...aut-pas-faire-sur-le Le marche nocturne de Luang Prabang est aujourd'hui rempli de portables et autres babioles de mauvaise qualité made in china, une réplique touristique du marché Phosy où légumes et fruits locaux ont été remplacés par des produits importés. Ce qui ne change pas par contre, c'est cette bienveillance dont les laotiens ou cambodgiens savent encore faire preuve envers l'étranger et je rejoins Bongphilou, si les gouvernements bradent leur pays, les gens n'ont pas perdu leur âme.
Je ne suis pas du genre à espérer que rien ne change pour ne pas altérer mes souvenirs !!! mais je ne peux que constater quand je retourne dans un pays après une longue absence que les évolutions ne se font pas au bénéfice de la majorité des gens ... et qu’au contraire ils se voient, comme nous d’ailleurs, souvent imposer des modèles de développement qui ne correspondent pas à leurs aspirations...
J’espère que les Laos garderont leur ouverture aux autres et qu’ils se batteront pour le respect de leur culture...
Pour le trajet Phnom Penh Battanbang vous avez le choix entre le bus ou le bateau et moi j'ai pris le bateau et c'était génial.. !
Et pour le Laos à venir (86jours le départ ..)...ce qui m'importe c'est d'aller à la rencontre des locaux.. on rapporte toujours quelques souvenirs çà fait partie du jeu ..et pour ma part je ne pars jamais en Asie sans emporter avec moi des crayons, des cahiers, des ballons pour les enfants..Le sourire d'un enfant est pour moi plus beau que n'importe quoi.
Les Chinois importent tout , de partout..çà c'est sûr..
Bon we
C.
"Voilà. Sur ce je sors de cette discussion" disiez-vous. Mais 5 messages plus tard, vous voilà encore ici 😉 Vous n'avez pas trouvé la sortie 😛Et quelle mauvaise foi ! Voila maintenant le numéro de la pauvre victime...
Je rappelle ce que vous avez écrit : "Pour y avoir été en Décembre 2014 je te conseille de ne pas t'y arrêter.. C'est la ville avec Ho Chi Minh la plus dangereuse qui soit.. "
Vous conseillez de ne pas s'y arrêter, effectivement, mais ce n'est pas ça qui a fait réagir plusieurs lecteurs. C'est l'affirmation qui vient ensuite.😠
Votre technique de désinformation est digne des plus belles heures de l'ex-URSS.
Mais vos écrits demeurent... Ceux qui comprennent encore le Français peuvent juger.
Il y a des gens intéressants avec qui j'ai plaisir à dialoguer, qui ne jugent pas et comprennent mes écrits ne vous en déplaise et je ne vous ai pas demandé l'heure alors encore une fois mêlez vous de vos affaires ! Je sors oui de "notre" discussion ! car vous êtes le seul qui parle mal ici et injurie ! Contentez vous de trouver votre voie ! celle du non jugement et méditez là dessus! BON VENT DEFINITIVEMENT !
Il y a des gens intéressants avec qui j'ai plaisir à dialoguer, qui ne jugent pas et comprennent mes écrits ne vous en déplaise et je ne vous ai pas demandé l'heure alors encore une fois mêlez vous de vos affaires ! Je sors oui de "notre" discussion ! car vous êtes le seul qui parle mal ici et injurie ! Contentez vous de trouver votre voie ! celle du non jugement et méditez là dessus! BON VENT DEFINITIVEMENT !
Non, ne vous en déplaise, je ne suis pas le seul ici à avoir réagi à votre post pas très net. 🙁
C'est vrai que ça vous arrangerait bien de n'avoir qu'un seul contradicteur, mais ce n'est pas le cas.
Un autre vous a d'ailleurs fait remarquer que vous étiez la plus agressive sur ce fil. 🤪
Mais vous persistez dans votre attitude de pauvre victime innocente.
Malheureusement pour vous, venir écrire des absurdités sur un forum ne peut qu'amener des réponses pas très agréables.
Si vous souhaitez un débat sans contradiction, écrivez sur votre page fessedebouc, vous pourrez vous vanter de vos x voyages, de connaître tel pays mieux que personne, etc... Personne ne viendra vous contrarier et votre égo surdimensionné sera satisfait 😏
Le temps fuit sans retour.
j'ai préféré au Cambodge faire la traversée Phnom Penh..Battambang en bateau (7h) plutôt qu'en bus
n'y a t'il pas une partie du parcours qui se fait en bus ?
j'ai vu au moins tout ce qui se passait, comment vivaient les gens, les "hello" des enfants
nous sommes d'accord, des moments qui comptent
Si vous souhaitez un débat sans contradiction, écrivez sur votre page fessedebouc, vous pourrez vous vanter de vos x voyages, de connaître tel pays mieux que personne, etc... Personne ne viendra vous contrarier
je rebondis sur la citation de Man18 pour confirmer qu'il y a effectivement des pages dédiées aux "groupes au top" tellement au top qu'ils viennent allégrement et sans pudeur racoler sur VF, pas une légende, la preuve ici: https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=8284393#8284393
n'y a t'il pas une partie du parcours qui se fait en bus ?
j'ai vu au moins tout ce qui se passait, comment vivaient les gens, les "hello" des enfants
nous sommes d'accord, des moments qui comptent
Si vous souhaitez un débat sans contradiction, écrivez sur votre page fessedebouc, vous pourrez vous vanter de vos x voyages, de connaître tel pays mieux que personne, etc... Personne ne viendra vous contrarier
je rebondis sur la citation de Man18 pour confirmer qu'il y a effectivement des pages dédiées aux "groupes au top" tellement au top qu'ils viennent allégrement et sans pudeur racoler sur VF, pas une légende, la preuve ici: https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=8284393#8284393
Bonjour, nous sommes allés au Cambodge en famille et nous nous sommes arrêtés quelques jours à Phnom Penh et nous n'y sommes pas ennuyés du tout. Outre ce qui a été cité plus haut comme le palais impérial, nous sommes allés sur l'île de Koh Dash (très sympa) et nous avons également été visiter les killing field et le s 21. Ca nous paraissait important de s’intéresser à l'histoire récente et monstrueuse de ce beau pays;
De plus les ballades à la tombée de la nuit sur le bord du Mékong étaient très agréables. Quant à la sécurité , jamais nous n'avons eu la moindre crainte même avec nos enfants (nous avons pris les Tuk tuk souvent , pas vu de grillages!)
Bon voyage à vous
Bonsoir Martine
Tout a fait d'accord sur vos commentaires concernant Phnom Penh , par contre quand vous parlez de "l'histoire récente et monstrueuse de ce beau pays" permettez moi de rajouter que cette partie d'histoire s'est passée dans l'indifférence générale des pays occidentaux dont la France qui n'a pas levé le petit doigt pour défendre son ancien protectorat. Elle n'interviendra que fin 1991 après les accords de Paris et en 1992 avec l'ONU .
Bons nouveaux voyages Eric
Tout a fait d'accord sur vos commentaires concernant Phnom Penh , par contre quand vous parlez de "l'histoire récente et monstrueuse de ce beau pays" permettez moi de rajouter que cette partie d'histoire s'est passée dans l'indifférence générale des pays occidentaux dont la France qui n'a pas levé le petit doigt pour défendre son ancien protectorat. Elle n'interviendra que fin 1991 après les accords de Paris et en 1992 avec l'ONU .
Bons nouveaux voyages Eric
HENON Eric
allez voir du côté du 93 ou du 91. J'ai séjourné 1 mis 1/2 au Cambodge cette année dont 3 semaines à PHNOM PENH, où j'ai bossé dans un petit guesthouse. Je n'ai jamais eu de souci. Oui li y a quelques agréssions, il suffit de prendre quelques précautions et ne pas attirer les vols opportunistes ( sacs à main en évidence, appareil photo etc ) mais la ville est plus sure que nombres de nos villes en France. J'ai fait 15 jours à SAIGON cette année, aucun souci, aucune agression et j'ai tout fait quasiment à pied. Attention au jugement hâtifs et généraliste.
Une petite histoire vraie pour détendre l'atmosphère
Elle se passe il y a une éternité dans les années 60 en Italie. Le vol était dit courant à la tire(déjà!) en "vespa".
Nous étions à Rome dans un parking . Des jeunes français qui venait de garer leur voiture nous montrent tout contents un petit objet "C'est notre "delco" (petit objet préhistorique pour distribuer l'électricité aux bougies du moteur d'une voiture) On est tranquille personne ne pourra faire démarrer notre voiture!! J'étais admiratif . Un peu plus tard nous les retrouvons dans Rome ils avait l'air affolés. On vient de se faire arracher notre sac avec le delco dedans!! D'où le conseil "deux précautions valent mieux qu'une"
Des voleurs c'est pas nouveau, il y en a partout , pas seulement à Phnom Penh et Saigon
entièrement d'accord !! j'étais à Tahiti en 1978 et aussi , il y avait déjà les vols et agression en vespa.
Rien à voir au Cambodge? Tout dépend de ce que l'on cherche....
Personnellement, cela fait plus de 10 ans que je vais au Cambodge et et je n'ai pas encore tout vu. maintenant? rester 9 ans sans rien voir... ça doit faire vraiment très long 😉
Dominique
"Celui qui veut faire quelque chose trouve un moyen. Celui qui ne veut rien faire trouve une excuse" (proverbe arabe) Moi, je n'ai aucune excuse !!!
"Celui qui veut faire quelque chose trouve un moyen. Celui qui ne veut rien faire trouve une excuse" (proverbe arabe) Moi, je n'ai aucune excuse !!!
Cela fait plus de 10 ans que je passe mes vacances au Cambodge et en Asie en général et je n'ai jamais eu de problème de ce genre. Dans les pays d'amérique du sud par exemple, c'est différent. Phnom Penh ne craint pas plus que Paris, Rome ou Los Angeles. Il suffit de se trouver se trouver au mauvais endroit au mauvais moment... Les Khmers ne sont pas plus voleurs que les français que je sache
"Pour le passeport la carte de paiement l'argent en gros billets et le billet d'avion. il faut les mettre enveloppé dans du plastic (à cause de la transpiration) puis dans une pochette plate qui s'attache derrière le dos, le tout dans son slip ou sa culotte..."
Je ne me promene jamais avec la carte bleue, le passeport ou de grosses sommes d'argent. Pas plus qu'avec mon billet d'avion. On peut se les faire voler mais on peut aussi les perdre et le résultat sera le même. Derriere le dos, c'est devant? 🙂 Toujours faire des copies de ses papiers (papier et numérique au cas où) Le plastique, avec la chaleur, ça colle 😉
"Le soir dans votre chambre bloquez la fenêtre et la porte (La seule fois ou j'ai vérifiée l'efficacité de cette méthode c'est à Auckland NZ dans une auberge de la jeunesse j'avais poussé l'armoire devant la porte)"
LA SEULE FOIS... au bout de 60 ans de voyages, cela fait vraiment une tout petit pourcentage de probabilité, non?
"Pour le passeport la carte de paiement l'argent en gros billets et le billet d'avion. il faut les mettre enveloppé dans du plastic (à cause de la transpiration) puis dans une pochette plate qui s'attache derrière le dos, le tout dans son slip ou sa culotte..."
Je ne me promene jamais avec la carte bleue, le passeport ou de grosses sommes d'argent. Pas plus qu'avec mon billet d'avion. On peut se les faire voler mais on peut aussi les perdre et le résultat sera le même. Derriere le dos, c'est devant? 🙂 Toujours faire des copies de ses papiers (papier et numérique au cas où) Le plastique, avec la chaleur, ça colle 😉
"Le soir dans votre chambre bloquez la fenêtre et la porte (La seule fois ou j'ai vérifiée l'efficacité de cette méthode c'est à Auckland NZ dans une auberge de la jeunesse j'avais poussé l'armoire devant la porte)"
LA SEULE FOIS... au bout de 60 ans de voyages, cela fait vraiment une tout petit pourcentage de probabilité, non?
Dominique
"Celui qui veut faire quelque chose trouve un moyen. Celui qui ne veut rien faire trouve une excuse" (proverbe arabe) Moi, je n'ai aucune excuse !!!
"Celui qui veut faire quelque chose trouve un moyen. Celui qui ne veut rien faire trouve une excuse" (proverbe arabe) Moi, je n'ai aucune excuse !!!
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I’d love to see something other than the city—anyone have recommendations or a guide for 6-8 people with pickup at the port?
I’d really like to visit some rice paddies.
I’ll be on a cruise on January 11, 2027. We’re stopping in Ho Chi Minh City (Phu My).
I’d love to see something other than the city—anyone have recommendations or a guide for 6-8 people with pickup at the port?
I’d really like to visit some rice paddies.
Hi there,
I’m spending 4 days in Kuala Lumpur.
Could you let me know what’s absolutely worth visiting and what’s not really worth the effort?
Any suggested itinerary?
Apart from Batu Caves, I don’t have many ideas...
I’m traveling with my partner and our 16-year-old son.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m spending 4 days in Kuala Lumpur.
Could you let me know what’s absolutely worth visiting and what’s not really worth the effort?
Any suggested itinerary?
Apart from Batu Caves, I don’t have many ideas...
I’m traveling with my partner and our 16-year-old son.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi,
After our trip to China, we want to spend a week in the Philippines for some beach time and snorkeling.
We're looking for the best spot to settle in—nice beaches, great marine life, and short transfer times.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Hi there,
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai? Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai. My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Thanks for your tips! DrSnuggle
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai? Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai. My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Thanks for your tips! DrSnuggle
Bonjour,
En voyage en Thaïlande je suis à la recherche de jonc bouddhiste kumlai.
Quelqu’un saurait-il me guider pour en trouver?
À Bangkok j’ai visité quelques temple mais je n’en n’ai pas trouvé sur les magasins à proximité.
Si vous avez une idée je suis preneuse! Belle journée :-)
Hi there
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
Hi there,
we’ll be in Mai Chau in June and we’re thinking of heading to Sapa, but first spending a few days in Bac Ha to do some hiking and explore the area.
Is this a good idea for those who’ve been there?
How do you get there?
Thanks for your feedback.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi everyone. As I’m planning my trip for next winter, I’m looking for hotel suggestions in Camotes, Bantayan, Malapascua, Bohol, and Siquijor. The ones I had in mind seem to be fully booked (unless it’s too early?). For those familiar with the area, is it easy to find accommodations on the spot in January/February? I’m specifically looking for hotels with a pool, beachfront, air conditioning, and easy scooter rental nearby. Thanks for your tips!
Hi there,
I’m planning an itinerary and would love some feedback on whether it’s doable and if the number of days per destination is enough—or too much. I was also debating whether to add an extra night on an island or spend an extra night in Kampot to visit Kep or Battambang.
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
Hi there,
Yesterday in the Thailand section, 100% of the new threads were just about beach destinations 😕...
So here’s the counterattack in the form of this photo thread, dedicated solely to the countryside: the locals, their livestock, fields, farms, rice paddies, small rivers, and agricultural machinery. If you’ve got any pictures that fit these categories, feel free to add them!
Comments welcome.
For each photo, I’ll (or you can) indicate the area where it was taken.
Kanchanaburi:
Kanchanaburi:
Sri Chiangmai:
Soppong:
Tha Wang Pha:
Kanchanaburi:

Kanchanaburi:

Sri Chiangmai:

Soppong:

Tha Wang Pha:

🙂 Hi everyone!
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hi there,
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
Hi everyone,
My girlfriend and I booked our tickets with Saudia Airlines for a trip to Thailand this summer, from July 5th to August 3rd. Given the geopolitical situation in the Middle East, we’re keeping a close eye on the news.
I was wondering if anyone here is in the same situation as us?
• Have you heard anything about possible mass cancellations or if the airline is still maintaining its routes to Asia?
• Are there any travelers who’ve recently returned who could tell us if air corridors have been changed (longer flight times)?
The idea is to know what to expect so we can prepare as best as possible. Thanks for your replies! !
Hi everyone,
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts) August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar August 17: Rammang Rammang August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Thanks in advance for your feedback! :)
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts) August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar August 17: Rammang Rammang August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Thanks in advance for your feedback! :)
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
Hi everyone,
Family of 4—2 adults and 2 kids (11 and 15) who are well-traveled. We’re planning a 15-day trip to Indonesia and would love your thoughts on our itinerary. We love discovering local culture, food (!!), seeing beautiful landscapes, and keeping an active pace. We’re not the type to lounge on the beach for 5 hours or spend ages by the pool when we’re halfway across the world. Also, we try to avoid places "ruined" by mass tourism (like Holbox in Mexico, which we loved 10 years ago but not at all on our last visit, or Phi Phi in Thailand, completely destroyed by mass tourism).
Special note: we love traveling by train :)
Here’s what we’ve planned so far:
**Day 1** Arrival in Jakarta, then domestic flight to Yogyakarta. Settle in Yogyakarta.
**Day 2** Borobudur in the morning, then exploring nearby villages.
**Day 3** Prambanan in the morning, followed by culinary discovery / market / local vibe in Yogyakarta.
**Day 4** Train to Jombang, then driver/bus to the Bromo area. Overnight stay.
**Day 5** Sunrise at Bromo, exploring the volcano and sea of sand. Relax in the afternoon.
**Day 6** Travel to eastern Java, then train, ferry, and road to reach Sidemen in Bali.
**Day 7** Sidemen
**Day 8** Sidemen
**Day 9** Sidemen
**Day 10** Transfer to Gili Air (car to the port + fast boat?)
**Day 11** Gili Air
**Day 12** Gili Air
**Day 13** Transfer to Ubud
**Day 14** Ubud
**Day 15** Return to Bali airport, flight to Jakarta, then international flight.
Does this itinerary seem coherent for a family? Does it feel too packed or well-balanced? Would you make any changes to certain stops, durations, or transfers?
Thanks so much for your tips and experiences!
Family of 4—2 adults and 2 kids (11 and 15) who are well-traveled. We’re planning a 15-day trip to Indonesia and would love your thoughts on our itinerary. We love discovering local culture, food (!!), seeing beautiful landscapes, and keeping an active pace. We’re not the type to lounge on the beach for 5 hours or spend ages by the pool when we’re halfway across the world. Also, we try to avoid places "ruined" by mass tourism (like Holbox in Mexico, which we loved 10 years ago but not at all on our last visit, or Phi Phi in Thailand, completely destroyed by mass tourism).
Special note: we love traveling by train :)
Here’s what we’ve planned so far:
**Day 1** Arrival in Jakarta, then domestic flight to Yogyakarta. Settle in Yogyakarta.
**Day 2** Borobudur in the morning, then exploring nearby villages.
**Day 3** Prambanan in the morning, followed by culinary discovery / market / local vibe in Yogyakarta.
**Day 4** Train to Jombang, then driver/bus to the Bromo area. Overnight stay.
**Day 5** Sunrise at Bromo, exploring the volcano and sea of sand. Relax in the afternoon.
**Day 6** Travel to eastern Java, then train, ferry, and road to reach Sidemen in Bali.
**Day 7** Sidemen
**Day 8** Sidemen
**Day 9** Sidemen
**Day 10** Transfer to Gili Air (car to the port + fast boat?)
**Day 11** Gili Air
**Day 12** Gili Air
**Day 13** Transfer to Ubud
**Day 14** Ubud
**Day 15** Return to Bali airport, flight to Jakarta, then international flight.
Does this itinerary seem coherent for a family? Does it feel too packed or well-balanced? Would you make any changes to certain stops, durations, or transfers?
Thanks so much for your tips and experiences!









