Northwest Vietnam circuit with an agency in April/May 2012: has anyone done it?
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JE Jepititou Regular ·
They’re Lolo Hao = Literally, "Flower Lolo" or "Colorful Lolo"

Here’s another photo I found on a travel agency’s site
http://vietnamjp.eklablog.com/
BI Binboum Regular ·
I just saw that another agency is offering the "voyage en terre Lo Lo" program :/ :/ :/
JE Jepititou Regular ·
Let's just say there aren't many agencies left that don't offer trips to see the Black Lolo. No problem, they all visit the same ones—there are plenty of other villages that are still untouched by these or other ethnic groups, and lots of great moments to share with them. But I think now that the Ha Giang Plateau is classified, this region will open up, and there'll be more people. As for me, I'm heading to Nghe An—people still look at me like I'm an alien there (just hope Michalak doesn't go!!!!!!😕)[;]
http://vietnamjp.eklablog.com/
AS Asia7 Globetrotter ·
Looking for gracixalus quangi???? But there’s no Lolo in Nghe An?
Pour bien aimer un pays il faut le manger, le boire et l’entendre chanter. (Michel Déon)
AB Abalone Globetrotter ·
another agency offers the program "journey to Lo Lo land"

I discreetly suggested on VoyageForum a colorful highland minority, the Pathern.

A few lucky VF members have good reason to protect them from mass tourism, but check out the attached photos🙂
http://www.maison-chance.org/

Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,

W've got home;
BI Binboum Regular ·
I really love the Pathern costumes, especially their headdresses. I have some really beautiful photos—I’ll post them soon. 🙂
LA Lanilodo ·
Just wanted to say we’re still on track—the trip is coming together. Flight tickets booked from 21/04 to 05/05, and the deposit’s been paid to the agency (the rest on arrival). It’s really shaping up. We’ve received the invitation letter. I’m just a little nervous because I’m heading back to China a week later (for work) and I’ve just found out I need to send my passport to the embassy to get the visa (for China). Fingers crossed I get my passport back in time… otherwise, I’m in trouble for our trip.
Steph & Lolo
AS Asia7 Globetrotter ·
Hi there,

So, we have a meet-up at the airport on the 5th—it’s our arrival day! 😉😉😉

Which agency did you end up choosing, by the way?

We changed our itinerary, so we’ll spend two full days with the LOLO people, including accommodation, and two days in a small village north of Ha Giang, with hikes and markets....

I hope everything goes smoothly with your visa—it should be fine. You’ve got a month, so that should work out .

See you soon! Safe travels.
Pour bien aimer un pays il faut le manger, le boire et l’entendre chanter. (Michel Déon)
AB Abalone Globetrotter ·
We changed our itinerary, so we’ll spend two full days with the LOLO people, including accommodation, and two days in a small village north of Ha Giang, with hiking and markets....

Oh, that’s way better than bouncing around in a 4x4 in the wind!🙂
http://www.maison-chance.org/

Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,

W've got home;
AS Asia7 Globetrotter ·
Ah, better than the windy 4x4 rides🙂

Yeah, definitely😉😉

Quick question: do you know the day of the big tree market in Pac Ngoi? On top of the 2 days in Ha Giang and 2 with the LoLo people, we’ll spend 2 days in Pac Ngoi with a local family.... The agency also scheduled the trip so we can visit the reverse market in Pho Bang and the Bao Lac market on Saturday. I think this really matches what we’re looking for.😏
Pour bien aimer un pays il faut le manger, le boire et l’entendre chanter. (Michel Déon)
AB Abalone Globetrotter ·
Quick question: do you know the day of the Grand Tree market in Pac Ngoi?

I know the Grand Tree market in Yên Bình🙂



Could the Grand Tree market in Pac Ngoi be the Nam Cuong market? It takes place on the 2nd and 7th of the Lunar Calendar.
http://www.maison-chance.org/

Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,

W've got home;
AS Asia7 Globetrotter ·
Beautiful photo; Lovely tree!!!

Is the big tree market in Pac Ngoi the Nam Cuong market?

Well, that’s a mystery😕... all I know is you have to cross over and it’s on the way to the cave... Several tour operators offer it, but there’s no specific info out there.
Pour bien aimer un pays il faut le manger, le boire et l’entendre chanter. (Michel Déon)
LA Lanilodo ·
Two days to go, the suitcases are packed. Final check of what we're bringing. Asia, what do you pack?

Otherwise, a last-minute hiccup: my wife pulled her calf muscle a month ago (immobilization, physio). No crutches anymore, but her foot mobility isn’t fully back. We’re planning trekking poles, a heel lift, and a calf support, plus a moderate pace. Do you think that’ll work? Are the elevation changes significant on the itinerary? Thanks for any last-minute tips.
Steph & Lolo
AB Abalone Globetrotter ·
Are the elevation changes significant on the circuit?

If you want to send me the ultrasound report via PM, I can get an idea of the advice to give you.
http://www.maison-chance.org/

Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,

W've got home;
VE Venissian Globetrotter ·
Let's just say there aren't many agencies left that don't offer trips to see the Black Lolo.

Why the Lolo? There are plenty of minorities in Vietnam... I find that these tour operators present their trips like a safari, visiting a human zoo.
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AS Asia7 Globetrotter ·
Hi Venissan,

Why the Lolo, we choose from what the tour operators offer. I would have liked to meet other ethnic groups too, but it doesn’t seem possible—or only briefly, like passing through a market or by the side of a road... 😕

The safari or zoo visit, it’s really the tourist who, through their attitude, makes their trip a voyeuristic experience or not... it depends on their curiosity, their desire to learn more, and the respect they show. 😏
Pour bien aimer un pays il faut le manger, le boire et l’entendre chanter. (Michel Déon)
VE Venissian Globetrotter ·
I really like your replies. Respect. Cheers
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AS Asia7 Globetrotter ·
Thanks😊 Warm regards, (like my answers)😉
Pour bien aimer un pays il faut le manger, le boire et l’entendre chanter. (Michel Déon)
LA Lanilodo ·
😎 hi there, Just a quick note while I’ve got wifi in Baolac to say this trip is amazing. The landscapes are stunning and the locals are so welcoming, despite the simplicity of their daily lives. A cup of tea or sometimes just hot water to have a chance to chat a little. They’re all hard workers and really endearing. We’ve got 3 more nights with homestays, and they’re by far the best evenings we’ve had. There are a few challenges with meals, but we’re making an effort, and it’s a bit tough to sleep because their mattresses are firm. See you soon
Steph & Lolo
AS Asia7 Globetrotter ·
I’m so touched that you thought of me and really appreciate it.

With all the amazing things you’re talking about, I can’t wait to be there!!!! Enjoy it—I’m on my way to take over.....😉see you soon,

Best,

Fabienne
Pour bien aimer un pays il faut le manger, le boire et l’entendre chanter. (Michel Déon)
IS Isag94 Regular ·
Hello Asia,

That's what I do too...😉 and the result is up to par: soaking or spraying the product intensively on clothes gives them "immunity" for several months.....despite the (many) washes..

In the end, it's a really easy solution to avoid being attacked by those little critters and much less harmful than all those chemical products that at least affect your health and in some cases destroy your liver...

Have a nice day - Kimtwo

I'm really late to this discussion, but I have one or two questions for the mosquito-fighting experts.

I'm leaving in August and I bought the soaking version, but I just realized that with one bottle I can only do 2 kg of laundry. I thought you had to dilute the product and soak almost all your clothes in a bathtub. But apparently, you use it undiluted?

Is there a "trick"? A larger size? Another brand besides Insect Écran? Or in the end, isn't the spray version much more economical?

Thanks for your help!

Isabelle
MA Mavn Veteran ·
Good evening,

I’m chiming in to let you know that during my three trips to Vietnam (the last one in May/June 2012), I used INSECT ECRAN SPRAY INSECTICIDE FOR CLOTHING (navy blue bottle).

I also use (very, very sparingly) INSECT ECRAN Skin Repellent – Special Tropics. I’m not a big fan of products you spray on your skin, so I don’t even use a third of the 75 ml bottle (but that’s just my personal preference).

A few days before my departure and just before packing my suitcase, I spray my long linen or lightweight fabric pants, as well as long-sleeved T-shirts or shirts (which I wear in the evening before nightfall). Three sprays on each pant leg, front and back, and one around the waistband. Same for polo shirts or long-sleeved shirts—front, back, and sleeves—plus two sprays on each sock or ankle sock that we also wear in the evening. I also give the inside of my suitcase a good spray.

We traveled through northern, central, and southern Vietnam, as well as parts of Cambodia and Laos, and we were never bitten. Our clothes were washed and rewashed multiple times, and the product lasts a long time.

What’s more, a 100 ml bottle is more than enough—I never finish it.

Don’t hesitate to ask if you’d like more details. If I can help, I’d be happy to.

Best regards.
IS Isag94 Regular ·
Thanks a lot for the quick and helpful reply.

I think I’ll stick with spraying for clothes too—the soaking method takes too long and is expensive as well.
KI Kimtwo Globetrotter ·
Hi Isabelle,

The time difference didn’t let me reply last night (for me)😉) but I totally confirm what the other forum member told you—if you’re really "attractive" to mosquitoes, spray the regular formula on uncovered areas... and most importantly, don’t wear perfume.

Not everyone reacts the same way to that little troublemaker, the mosquito: bring both formulas (the spray for your clothes at home and the lotion for your skin) because in Vietnam, you’ll struggle to find equivalent products.

Have a great trip—it’s already 30°C this morning in Hanoi... and it’s nice, not too hot..

Best regards - Kimtwo
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Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
MA Mavn Veteran ·
Hi Isabelle,

I’m revisiting this "mosquito" question. I didn’t bring up Malarone or other medications because it wasn’t your question—it’s too personal (depends on where you’re staying) and it’s best to ask your doctor.

For my part, I took Malarone in 2008 for northern Vietnam, and again in 2010. Just one box for me and one for my husband, and this year we didn’t take anything. We still traveled between May and June, when the monsoon starts and it’s very hot and humid.

But I do confirm that if you’re wondering about it, you should check with your doctor.

Anyway, I hope you have a wonderful trip. You’ll be there at the same time as my daughter and her kids. As for us, we just got back yesterday, and I already want to go back! We’ve built such strong connections in both the north and the south with the "local" rural population in the north and in the Delta in the south. We always reconnect every time we return (sorry about the center—Venetian—lol—but we didn’t stay long enough... maybe next time...).

Have a great trip, and if you need any other info, don’t hesitate...😉

Best regards,

Mavn
VE Venissian Globetrotter ·
Here in the center, it's a heatwave... it's SUPER hot... can't sleep at all. We eat very little... fortunately, the sea bath at 5 PM cools us down a bit. As for mosquitoes, yes, they bite here, but I use a Vietnamese repellent that I spray generously around 6 PM. Otherwise, in the house, I use a special mosquito tennis racket—it's effective... We're waiting for you, Mavn... Did I already tell you? A brand-new, ultra-comfortable, luxurious hotel just opened here by the sea, at 300,000 dong per night—unbelievable!
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KI Kimtwo Globetrotter ·
Hi Venissian,

And that Vietnamese repellent???? Is it for using in the house, like a normal spray to get rid of invaders everywhere, or is it something you put on your skin???? Did you find it in a *sieu thi*? What’s the name?

Here at Intimex or Wi-Fi Mart, they don’t even have the tablets for electric diffusers anymore...... the trend has passed. For now, we don’t have mosquitoes, but it’s so *hoi* (humid, for the uninitiated) that they’ll be here soon...

Thanks for the info if you have it.

Best - Kimtwo
Le vent et les turbulences sont l'oeuvre de Dieu, mais la voile et le gouvernail nous appartiennent..

Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
MA Mavn Veteran ·
Hi Vénissian,

It’s "funny" talking about heatwaves in Vietnam!!! In France, sure (but not often), but in Vietnam!!!!

How I’d love to stroll through this wonderful country with temperatures of 25°C or even 28°C max!!!! You see, the fact that it’s too hot kinda "ruins" the pleasure of walking around; we tend to stay "cool," always looking for shade, constantly showering, and not going out enough.

Here, to cool you down a bit, I can tell you I just took a shower with the heating on!!!! It’s 14°C outside!!! With sunshine and a little rain. Feels so good!!!! The lawn is all green, and the roses are in bloom!!! Gorgeous!!! Yeah, no flamboyant trees or frangipani flowers here!!!

As for your mosquito racket, pro or con, I love the sound it makes when you catch one. Here in Normandy, no need. Too bad, ‘cause it’d remind me of all those years playing tennis, and I don’t think I’d miss ‘em—lol.

Anyway, I’m off to the market (in pants and a long-sleeved polo, not shorts and a tank top!!! There, that’ll cool you down!!!).😎😎😎

Have a great day!

Best,

Mavn
AB Abalone Globetrotter ·
it’s not the flame trees

For the nostalgic:

http://www.maison-chance.org/

Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,

W've got home;
IS Isag94 Regular ·
Hi Isabelle,

I’m revisiting this "mosquito" question. I didn’t bring up Malarone or other medications because that wasn’t your question—it’s too personal (depends on where you’re staying) and it’s best to ask your doctor.

Mavn

I have a consultation at the end of the month at the travel clinic at Pitié-Salpêtrière in Paris. We’re going with our itinerary, and they’ll give us all the prescriptions we need. If I can avoid Malarone with all the mosquito precautions, I’d love to... But we’re spending 12 days in the north (Mu Cang Chai, Sapa, Hanoi, Halong Bay, Tam Coc). So?
AS Asia7 Globetrotter ·
I asked myself the same question before leaving—Malarone or not... Now that I’m back, I can only advise you to take it. There are mosquitoes—not everywhere, but we encountered them in some northern areas. When you see all the places with stagnant water, we’re glad we opted for proper protection.
Pour bien aimer un pays il faut le manger, le boire et l’entendre chanter. (Michel Déon)
MA Mavn Veteran ·
"For the nostalgic ones:"

Ohhh, nostalgia when it gets us!!!!😄😄😄
MA Majaclic ·
Abalone, I’d love to get the details of that agency in a PM. Thanks in advance.
Fait bien et laisse dire
VE Venissian Globetrotter ·
1) Here’s the name: REMOS ROTHO lab 60 ml around 25,000 dong, I found it at the CoopMart supermarket. I spray it directly on my skin—I find it effective.

2) Otherwise, there are RAID mosquito coils. If you’re eating outside, burn one—it’s really effective, but do it outdoors.

3) Last tip: I’ll lend you my wife—guaranteed success, she attracts all the mosquitoes. She’s like bait… plus, it’ll give me a break!
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MA Majaclic ·
Here in the center it's a heatwave... it's SUPER hot... can't sleep we eat little... fortunately, the sea bath at 5 PM cools us down a bit. As for mosquitoes, yes, they bite here, but I use a Vietnamese repellent that I spray generously around 6 PM. Otherwise, in the house, I use a special mosquito tennis racket—it's effective... We're waiting for you, Mavn... Did I already tell you? A brand-new, super luxurious and comfortable hotel just opened here, by the sea, at 300,000 dong per night—unbelievable!

Where is this new hotel? Can we get more details? Thanks
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VE Venissian Globetrotter ·
Where is this new hotel? Can we get more details? Thanks

First, I’d like to pinpoint the location precisely: My Khe beach, in the village of Tinh Khe, 8 km from Quang Ngai city, 100 km south of Hoi An / Da Nang.

A few forum members have stayed at this hotel recently, but I don’t want to reveal their identities without their permission. It’s a really comfortable hotel-restaurant, I’d say high-end. 300,000 dong for a double room and 320,000 d for a twin room.

Here’s a link: http://lecourrier.vnanet.vn/lecourrier/fr-fr/details/49/tourisme/46960/quang-ngai-accueillir-laube-devant-la-mer-a-my-khe.aspx Right on My Khe beach. All services are top quality.

I’ll say it again—the price is unbelievably low for what you get... I think prices will go up soon. This afternoon, I’ll take some photos and maybe even shoot a video. I’ll post them quickly.

That’s the manager in the photo.

From My Khe, you can visit Sa Huynh, Ba To, My Lai, head straight to Kon Tum via the magical Route 24, reach Hoi An in 3 hours by motorbike, or Quy Nhon in 4.5 hours.

Welcome!
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LI Libertad31 ·
Hi there! So, this trip that’s nearly 13 years old now—what memories do you have of it today, and did you deal with mosquito attacks during that time?

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