Un endroit doit-il obligatoirement être vieux et pauvre (ou présumé tel) pour être beau?
by Mick013
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Bonjour,
Je vois qu'on n'a pas besoin de moi ici pour les guerres pichrocolines. 😏 Je crois que certains réussiraient au besoin à d'embrouiller eux-même, sans personne d'autre.
Michel
Je vois qu'on n'a pas besoin de moi ici pour les guerres pichrocolines. 😏 Je crois que certains réussiraient au besoin à d'embrouiller eux-même, sans personne d'autre.
Michel
Sans vouloir remettre en question tes propos qui sont vrais la plupart du temps, on aurait presque honte à te lire de vivre dans la banlieue parisienne. Il y a un petit côté condescendant, à peine perceptible certes, mais je conçois que ce que tu écris ne plaise pas à tout le monde. Il y a pas mal de parisiens intra-muros qui tiennent le même discours que le tien, donc il n'y a rien de surprenant, mais après il ne faut pas s'étonner que les parisiens soient mal vus en Province. Quand je vivais à Marseille, j'étais souvent exaspérée par les propos des Marseillais à notre égard: Avec le recul, je comprends mieux...
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Sans vouloir remettre en question tes propos qui sont vrais la plupart du temps, on aurait presque honte à te lire de vivre dans la banlieue parisienne. Il y a un petit côté condescendant, à peine perceptible certes, mais je conçois que ce que tu écris ne plaise pas à tout le monde.
Disons qu'au départ, Mirandamouse énumérait des inconvénients à vivre dans Paris. Que j'ai réfutés parce que la plupart de ces arguments n'avaient pas de sens (sur la chaleur à Paris ou, le bruit -réel sur certains axes mais en "moyenne" pas plus élevé que sur l'ensemble de la banlieue-).
Après, comme je l'écris souvent, le principal c'est d'être bien où l'on vit.
Mais je n'ai pas non plus à avoir honte d'habiter dans Paris intra-muros ou de m'en cacher (pas plus qu'il n'y a de honte à habiter en banlieue). C'est un choix, que je suis prêt à défendre à l'occasion. Et il y a plein de défauts à Paris, je le reconnais volontiers, mais pas ceux énumérées par Mirandamouse, qui focalise par exemple sur le métro, alors que dans une journée "de Parisiens", l'utilisation du métro est anecdotique, et celui-ci a aussi de "bons côtés" (aspect pratique évidemment, même tard le soir, et c'est l'occasion de lire, ce que ceux qui utilisent une voiture, un scooter ou un vélo ne peuvent pas faire).
Disons qu'au départ, Mirandamouse énumérait des inconvénients à vivre dans Paris. Que j'ai réfutés parce que la plupart de ces arguments n'avaient pas de sens (sur la chaleur à Paris ou, le bruit -réel sur certains axes mais en "moyenne" pas plus élevé que sur l'ensemble de la banlieue-).
Après, comme je l'écris souvent, le principal c'est d'être bien où l'on vit.
Mais je n'ai pas non plus à avoir honte d'habiter dans Paris intra-muros ou de m'en cacher (pas plus qu'il n'y a de honte à habiter en banlieue). C'est un choix, que je suis prêt à défendre à l'occasion. Et il y a plein de défauts à Paris, je le reconnais volontiers, mais pas ceux énumérées par Mirandamouse, qui focalise par exemple sur le métro, alors que dans une journée "de Parisiens", l'utilisation du métro est anecdotique, et celui-ci a aussi de "bons côtés" (aspect pratique évidemment, même tard le soir, et c'est l'occasion de lire, ce que ceux qui utilisent une voiture, un scooter ou un vélo ne peuvent pas faire).
Euh j'ai justement dit que le métro était un des gros avantages de Paris, juste que l'été c'était un four que JE ne supportais pas.
Et anecdotique ça dépend pour qui. Le problème est que tu prends trop TON cas pour une généralité.
Je connais pas mal de monde qui vit intra-muros, ils ne vivent pas à côté de leur travail pour autant et passent donc du temps dans le métro, Il y a même des parisiens qui travaillent... en banlieue ! Et de plus en plus avec toutes les entreprises qui délocalisent leurs bureaux ailleurs car c'est moins cher.
Et j'ai dit que POUR MOI il y avait plus de bruit à Paris que dans les zones résidentielles de banlieue (j'ai aussi dit qu'en effet si c'était pour habiter sur un boulevard bruyant cela n'avait aucun avantage à être en banlieue).
Contrairement à toi je ne prends pas mon cas pour une généralité et je n'estime pas tout savoir...
Et anecdotique ça dépend pour qui. Le problème est que tu prends trop TON cas pour une généralité.
Je connais pas mal de monde qui vit intra-muros, ils ne vivent pas à côté de leur travail pour autant et passent donc du temps dans le métro, Il y a même des parisiens qui travaillent... en banlieue ! Et de plus en plus avec toutes les entreprises qui délocalisent leurs bureaux ailleurs car c'est moins cher.
Et j'ai dit que POUR MOI il y avait plus de bruit à Paris que dans les zones résidentielles de banlieue (j'ai aussi dit qu'en effet si c'était pour habiter sur un boulevard bruyant cela n'avait aucun avantage à être en banlieue).
Contrairement à toi je ne prends pas mon cas pour une généralité et je n'estime pas tout savoir...
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Je connais pas mal de monde qui vit intra-muros, ils ne vivent pas à côté de leur travail pour autant et passent donc du temps dans le métro, Il y a même des parisiens qui travaillent... en banlieue !
J'ai très longtemps été dans ce cas (pendant plus de 20 ans...). J'y ai lu des centaines de bouquins, avec ma musique dans les oreilles. Rien d'insurmontable. Le soir j'espérais même souvent ne rencontrer personne pour pouvoir me plonger dans mon bouquin...
Et j'ai dit que POUR MOI il y avait plus de bruit à Paris que dans les zones résidentielles de banlieue (j'ai aussi dit qu'en effet si c'était pour habiter sur un boulevard bruyant cela n'avait aucun avantage à être en banlieue).
Sauf qu'après tu as dit que l'été tu ne pouvais pas dormir la fenêtre ouverte à cause des avions...
Après, on peut y aller dans les évidences : il y a plus de bruit dans un axe passant de Paris que dans une zone pavillonnaire de banlieue, et il y a plus de bruit en banlieue sur un grand axe que dans une petite rue de Paris... A quoi bon énumérer ce genre d'arguments qui n'en sont pas ? Genre, il y a davantage de bruit que là où il n'y en a pas...
Contrairement à toi je ne prends pas mon cas pour une généralité et je n'estime pas tout savoir...
Tu lis de travers ce que j'écris si tu penses ça. Je n'y peux rien.
Comme si vivre dans une zone pavillonnaire de banlieue et généraliser sur la banlieue, ce n'était pas prendre son cas pour une généralité au passage 😛...
J'ai très longtemps été dans ce cas (pendant plus de 20 ans...). J'y ai lu des centaines de bouquins, avec ma musique dans les oreilles. Rien d'insurmontable. Le soir j'espérais même souvent ne rencontrer personne pour pouvoir me plonger dans mon bouquin...
Et j'ai dit que POUR MOI il y avait plus de bruit à Paris que dans les zones résidentielles de banlieue (j'ai aussi dit qu'en effet si c'était pour habiter sur un boulevard bruyant cela n'avait aucun avantage à être en banlieue).
Sauf qu'après tu as dit que l'été tu ne pouvais pas dormir la fenêtre ouverte à cause des avions...
Après, on peut y aller dans les évidences : il y a plus de bruit dans un axe passant de Paris que dans une zone pavillonnaire de banlieue, et il y a plus de bruit en banlieue sur un grand axe que dans une petite rue de Paris... A quoi bon énumérer ce genre d'arguments qui n'en sont pas ? Genre, il y a davantage de bruit que là où il n'y en a pas...
Contrairement à toi je ne prends pas mon cas pour une généralité et je n'estime pas tout savoir...
Tu lis de travers ce que j'écris si tu penses ça. Je n'y peux rien.
Comme si vivre dans une zone pavillonnaire de banlieue et généraliser sur la banlieue, ce n'était pas prendre son cas pour une généralité au passage 😛...
Comment peut-on sérieusement dépenser inutilement et aussi longtemps autant d'énergie dans le seul but d'exposer ainsi en public à la fois le côté le plus barbifiant/assommant et le côté le plus puéril/infantile de sa propre personnalité ?
Ah, c'est un art 😏.
En fait, d'expérience, on fait ça comme un dérivatif, comme un fil rouge avec autre chose dans la tête, en jouant à adopter un rôle ou un profil.
On peut s'y amuser, s'y laisser prendre ; mais ce n'est ni très sérieux ni surtout très grave.
Et c'est moi qui vous le dis. 🙂
Michel
Michel
Ah, c'est un art 😏.
En fait, d'expérience, on fait ça comme un dérivatif, comme un fil rouge avec autre chose dans la tête, en jouant à adopter un rôle ou un profil.
On peut s'y amuser, s'y laisser prendre ; mais ce n'est ni très sérieux ni surtout très grave.
Et c'est moi qui vous le dis. 🙂
Michel
... hum ... comme ce demi-aveu a un parfum de vécu ! 😇
Michel
... hum ... comme ce demi-aveu a un parfum de vécu ! 😇
Rien à avouer.
Juste une expérience, vécue, évidemment. Et alors ? 🙂
Michel
Ah, c'est un art 😏. En fait, d'expérience, on fait ça comme un dérivatif, comme un fil rouge avec autre chose dans la tête, en jouant à adopter un rôle ou un profil. On peut s'y amuser, s'y laisser prendre ; mais ce n'est ni très sérieux ni surtout très grave. Et c'est moi qui vous le dis. 🙂
Michel
.. hum ... comme ce demi-aveu a un parfum de vécu ! 😇
Michel
Ah, c'est un art 😏. En fait, d'expérience, on fait ça comme un dérivatif, comme un fil rouge avec autre chose dans la tête, en jouant à adopter un rôle ou un profil. On peut s'y amuser, s'y laisser prendre ; mais ce n'est ni très sérieux ni surtout très grave. Et c'est moi qui vous le dis. 🙂
Michel
.. hum ... comme ce demi-aveu a un parfum de vécu ! 😇
et le côté le plus puéril/infantile de sa propre personnalité ?
Je t'invite à relire ce que j'ai écrit à propos de Paris.
A partir du moment où il n'y a rien ni de puéril ni d'infantile, je t'invite, dans un deuxième temps, à relire la définition de ces mots dans le dictionnaire.
C'est fait ?
J'en déduis par conséquent que ta propre remarque ne s'adressait qu'à toi-même. Je te laisse donc tout loisir de te répondre.
Je t'invite à relire ce que j'ai écrit à propos de Paris.
A partir du moment où il n'y a rien ni de puéril ni d'infantile, je t'invite, dans un deuxième temps, à relire la définition de ces mots dans le dictionnaire.
C'est fait ?
J'en déduis par conséquent que ta propre remarque ne s'adressait qu'à toi-même. Je te laisse donc tout loisir de te répondre.
Puisqu'il faut t'expliquer ce que tous ou presque comprennent :
ce n'est pas ce que tu dis qui est "puéril/infantile", dont tout le monde se contrefout d'ailleurs ... c'est ta façon de le faire, ici à peine caricaturée :
"Je suis le spécialiste ... donc je sais tout du sujet et je suis le seul et je dis que j'ai raison, ... donc j'ai raison !
Tu n'es pas d'accord avec moi qui suis le spécialiste mais comme je sais tout et comme j'ai raison ... c'est donc que tu as tort" ... et cette constance maladive à toujours vouloir avoir le dernier mot, comme si cela suffisait pour avoir raison malgré des évidences contraires !
C'est ce qu'on fait lorsqu'on a environ huit/onze ans, mais ensuite en général on passe au secondaire, et donc à autre chose ... ici c'est d'un ennui 😕...
ce n'est pas ce que tu dis qui est "puéril/infantile", dont tout le monde se contrefout d'ailleurs ... c'est ta façon de le faire, ici à peine caricaturée :
"Je suis le spécialiste ... donc je sais tout du sujet et je suis le seul et je dis que j'ai raison, ... donc j'ai raison !
Tu n'es pas d'accord avec moi qui suis le spécialiste mais comme je sais tout et comme j'ai raison ... c'est donc que tu as tort" ... et cette constance maladive à toujours vouloir avoir le dernier mot, comme si cela suffisait pour avoir raison malgré des évidences contraires !
C'est ce qu'on fait lorsqu'on a environ huit/onze ans, mais ensuite en général on passe au secondaire, et donc à autre chose ... ici c'est d'un ennui 😕...
Très bien résumé !
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Très bien résumé !
Pas de quoi fanfaronner, de ton côté : bien que de styles et de genres différents, tout le monde a bien vu que, dans la cour de récréation, vous étiez deux à nous raconter votre vie extraordinaire ! 😕
Pas de quoi fanfaronner, de ton côté : bien que de styles et de genres différents, tout le monde a bien vu que, dans la cour de récréation, vous étiez deux à nous raconter votre vie extraordinaire ! 😕
"Je suis le spécialiste...
donc je sais tout du sujet
et je suis le seul
et je dis que j'ai raison,
... donc j'ai raison !
Tu lis ce que tu as envie de lire. Mais tu lis de travers (ou tu ne lis pas, ce qui est probable).
J'ai dit ici des choses tellement évidentes à propos de Paris qu'elles sont en effet peu contestables et je ne comprends même pas qu'elles entraînent une telle discussion. Ceux qui font les remarques que tu fais n'ont visiblement pas lu ce que j'ai écrit plus haut, alors je le répète ici : quand je dis qu'il y a des rues calmes et des rues bruyantes à Paris, qu'il n'y fait que rarement chaud l'été, je ne vois pas comment on peut contester ça tellement c'est l'évidence même.
Après, j'avance mes arguments, Mirandamouse avance les siens aussi, que je conteste mais au moins, il y a une discussion à propos de choses qui existent.
De ton côté, tu ne fais que du blabla, en critiquant ceux qui contestent... Tu rallonges inutilement la sauce. Je ne sais pas si, là, c'est être puéril ou malpoli, mais ton intervention tombe exactement dans ce que tu dénonces.
Tu lis ce que tu as envie de lire. Mais tu lis de travers (ou tu ne lis pas, ce qui est probable).
J'ai dit ici des choses tellement évidentes à propos de Paris qu'elles sont en effet peu contestables et je ne comprends même pas qu'elles entraînent une telle discussion. Ceux qui font les remarques que tu fais n'ont visiblement pas lu ce que j'ai écrit plus haut, alors je le répète ici : quand je dis qu'il y a des rues calmes et des rues bruyantes à Paris, qu'il n'y fait que rarement chaud l'été, je ne vois pas comment on peut contester ça tellement c'est l'évidence même.
Après, j'avance mes arguments, Mirandamouse avance les siens aussi, que je conteste mais au moins, il y a une discussion à propos de choses qui existent.
De ton côté, tu ne fais que du blabla, en critiquant ceux qui contestent... Tu rallonges inutilement la sauce. Je ne sais pas si, là, c'est être puéril ou malpoli, mais ton intervention tombe exactement dans ce que tu dénonces.
Ce qui est beau , naturellement, partout dans le monde, c'est la Nature, eternellement renouvellée, sans âge
Ce qui est laid : la "civilisation humaine", d autant plus la moderne et industrielle : elle defigure la terre, de son betonnage, bitume, villes grises, "bourges ou pauvres", moches, surpeuplées, polluees. L urbanisme est un cancer planetaire qui ronge peu a peu la vraie vie, les espaces naturels, libres, sauvages et tranquilles. Jamais aucun architecte humain ne parviendra a egaler la beauté de la nature. Il ne produit qu un ersatz vulgaire, des dechets vite obsoletes, une mauvaise copie anti nature, comme on laisse des cicatrices sur le corps d un animal innocent mutilé
Bonjour,
A cette réserve près que la nature n'est que parce qu'il y a des hommes pour la regarder : sans humanité, il n'y a pas de nature, et le rossignol ne "chante" que parce qu'il y a des humains pour l'entendre chanter.
Michel
Ce qui est beau , naturellement, partout dans le monde, c'est la Nature, eternellement renouvellée, sans âge Ce qui est laid : la "civilisation humaine", d autant plus la moderne et industrielle : elle defigure la terre, de son betonnage, bitume, villes grises, "bourges ou pauvres", moches, surpeuplées, polluees. L urbanisme est un cancer planetaire qui ronge peu a peu la vraie vie, les espaces naturels, libres, sauvages et tranquilles. Jamais aucun architecte humain ne parviendra a egaler la beauté de la nature. Il ne produit qu un ersatz vulgaire, des dechets vite obsoletes, une mauvaise copie anti nature, comme on laisse des cicatrices sur le corps d un animal innocent mutilé
A cette réserve près que la nature n'est que parce qu'il y a des hommes pour la regarder : sans humanité, il n'y a pas de nature, et le rossignol ne "chante" que parce qu'il y a des humains pour l'entendre chanter.
Michel
Ce qui est beau , naturellement, partout dans le monde, c'est la Nature, eternellement renouvellée, sans âge Ce qui est laid : la "civilisation humaine", d autant plus la moderne et industrielle : elle defigure la terre, de son betonnage, bitume, villes grises, "bourges ou pauvres", moches, surpeuplées, polluees. L urbanisme est un cancer planetaire qui ronge peu a peu la vraie vie, les espaces naturels, libres, sauvages et tranquilles. Jamais aucun architecte humain ne parviendra a egaler la beauté de la nature. Il ne produit qu un ersatz vulgaire, des dechets vite obsoletes, une mauvaise copie anti nature, comme on laisse des cicatrices sur le corps d un animal innocent mutilé
A cette réserve près que la nature n'est que parce qu'il y a des hommes pour la regarder : sans humanité, il n'y a pas de nature, et le rossignol ne "chante" que parce qu'il y a des humains pour l'entendre chanter.
T'aurais pas dû...
T'aurais pas dû...
Hyper anthropocentrique ce genre de reponse
Ego, ego. Y a pas que des humains sur terre et dans l univers, c est meme eux qui detruisent tout ca.
L univers se fout autant des humains que du vers de terre
Mais le rossignol comme tous les etres vivants, a une conscience, un esprit lui aussi, pour contempler le monde.
L univers est d ailleurs peut etre une mega conscience, l infini conscient de lui meme.
Et le singe humain est bien trop arrogant pour l envisager, en tous cas certains. Trop orgueuilleux, c est ce qui le perdra et le monde avec
Hyper anthropocentrique ce genre de reponse
Ego, ego. Y a pas que des humains sur terre et dans l univers, c est meme eux qui detruisent tout ca.
L univers se fout autant des humains que du vers de terre
Mais le rossignol comme tous les etres vivants, a une conscience, un esprit lui aussi, pour contempler le monde.
L univers est d ailleurs peut etre une mega conscience, l infini conscient de lui meme.
Et le singe humain est bien trop arrogant pour l envisager, en tous cas certains. Trop orgueuilleux, c est ce qui le perdra et le monde avec
Waouh... High level ! 😮
Waouh... High level ! 😮
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Si vous vous sentez capable de porter en tant qu'humain autre chose que le jugement d'un humain, je vous admire, et vous souhaite également bonne chance.
Vous avez le droit de réécrire la Physique d'Aristote, et même d'y croire ; mais pas de m'en convaincre. 😏
Michel
Hyper anthropocentrique ce genre de reponse Ego, ego. Y a pas que des humains sur terre et dans l univers, c est meme eux qui detruisent tout ca. L univers se fout autant des humains que du vers de terre Mais le rossignol comme tous les etres vivants, a une conscience, un esprit lui aussi, pour contempler le monde. L univers est d ailleurs peut etre une mega conscience, l infini conscient de lui meme. Et le singe humain est bien trop arrogant pour l envisager, en tous cas certains. Trop orgueuilleux, c est ce qui le perdra et le monde avec
Michel
Hyper anthropocentrique ce genre de reponse Ego, ego. Y a pas que des humains sur terre et dans l univers, c est meme eux qui detruisent tout ca. L univers se fout autant des humains que du vers de terre Mais le rossignol comme tous les etres vivants, a une conscience, un esprit lui aussi, pour contempler le monde. L univers est d ailleurs peut etre une mega conscience, l infini conscient de lui meme. Et le singe humain est bien trop arrogant pour l envisager, en tous cas certains. Trop orgueuilleux, c est ce qui le perdra et le monde avec
Aristote, un des pires "philosophes ou plutot sophistes grecs
Va plutot lire Diogene le cynique ou Epictete, ca c est des vrais
Pas des "Harry s'tâte" de salons ; )
Nature, culture, bah, chacun ses gouts non ?
J'aime plutôt les belles villes, pour le moment les voyages "nature" m'attirent moins même si je suis pas contre un jour (mais pas un voyage 100% nature) d'autres c'est l'inverse, il y a assez de belles choses sur Terre pour contenter tout le monde !
J'aime plutôt les belles villes, pour le moment les voyages "nature" m'attirent moins même si je suis pas contre un jour (mais pas un voyage 100% nature) d'autres c'est l'inverse, il y a assez de belles choses sur Terre pour contenter tout le monde !
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En effet, lire des philosophes qui n'ont en réalité rien écrit, c'est plus facile.
C'est amusant de voir que face à un interlocuteur qui sait de quoi il parle, vous manquez soudain d'ardeur.
Bonne soirée.
Michel
Bonne soirée.
Michel
Bonsoir Nimou74
C'est le désertt du Chigaga au Maroc. Au sud de Zagora.
"La Vie est un Mystère qu'il faut vivre, et non un problème à résoudre."
(Gandhi)
Tu te montres tellement persuadé de détenir LA vérité universelle sur tout ce qui touche Paris, et tu nies tellement à quiconque, non sans condescendance, le droit de penser autrement de toi qu'on n'a absolument pas envie de t'écouter ni de croire en ce que tu racontes, qui (lorsqu'on s'y risque) relève d'ailleurs souvent plus de la caricature ou de la généralisation hâtive que de l'analyse pertinente !
Disons qu'il y a des choses qui sont des évidences quand tu vis à Paris.
Qu'aucun Parisien ne prenne le RER pour se déplacer intra-muros par exemple, est une évidence.
Qu'il fasse rarement très chaud l'été est une évidence aussi (j'y passe tous mes étés...)... Il suffira de consulter les relevés météo au passage...
Qu'à Paris il y ait des rues calmes et des rues bruyantes et qu'en banlieue il y ait aussi des rues calmes et aussi des rues bruyantes, c'est aussi une évidence...
Aucune "vérité universelle" ni "condescendance" ici, juste des choses vraies et évidentes.
hello,
Allons allons pas de généralité....je suis parisienne et utilise le RER...avec la chance de le faire sur une partie intra muros donc moins chargée car plus fréquente...🤪
Disons qu'il y a des choses qui sont des évidences quand tu vis à Paris.
Qu'aucun Parisien ne prenne le RER pour se déplacer intra-muros par exemple, est une évidence.
Qu'il fasse rarement très chaud l'été est une évidence aussi (j'y passe tous mes étés...)... Il suffira de consulter les relevés météo au passage...
Qu'à Paris il y ait des rues calmes et des rues bruyantes et qu'en banlieue il y ait aussi des rues calmes et aussi des rues bruyantes, c'est aussi une évidence...
Aucune "vérité universelle" ni "condescendance" ici, juste des choses vraies et évidentes.
hello,
Allons allons pas de généralité....je suis parisienne et utilise le RER...avec la chance de le faire sur une partie intra muros donc moins chargée car plus fréquente...🤪
Allons allons pas de généralité....je suis parisienne et utilise le RER...avec la chance de le faire sur une partie intra muros donc moins chargée car plus fréquente...🤪
Admets peut-être que tu es une sorte d'exception qui confirmerait la règle...
Non je ne suis pas seule à descendre à ma station (sur le parcours PARIS intra), simplement j'ai l'esprit pratique plutôt que de changer de ligne de métro il me semble plus rationnel d'emprunter des lignes directes et gagner du temps (deux stations au lieu de 8.....) et je prends le tramway aussi de temps en temps 😛
Admets peut-être que tu es une sorte d'exception qui confirmerait la règle...
Non je ne suis pas seule à descendre à ma station (sur le parcours PARIS intra), simplement j'ai l'esprit pratique plutôt que de changer de ligne de métro il me semble plus rationnel d'emprunter des lignes directes et gagner du temps (deux stations au lieu de 8.....) et je prends le tramway aussi de temps en temps 😛
Non je ne suis pas seule à descendre à ma station (sur le parcours PARIS intra), simplement j'ai l'esprit pratique plutôt que de changer de ligne de métro il me semble plus rationnel d'emprunter des lignes directes et gagner du temps (deux stations au lieu de 8.....) et je prends le tramway aussi de temps en temps 😛
Je pense que lorsque c'est ton trajet quotidien, il est logique d'étudier ce qui est le plus rapide. Mais pour un déplacement "lambda", c'est-à-dire pour aller chez des copains, au ciné, dans un resto, les Parisiens d'une manière générale n'utilisent pas le RER.
Je pense que lorsque c'est ton trajet quotidien, il est logique d'étudier ce qui est le plus rapide. Mais pour un déplacement "lambda", c'est-à-dire pour aller chez des copains, au ciné, dans un resto, les Parisiens d'une manière générale n'utilisent pas le RER.
Pourquoi affirmer jusqu'à l'absurde des choses que tu ne maîtrises absolument pas... à moins d'être statisticien dans le département d'un institut de sondages dédié aux mobilités urbaines, et encore ?
JE suis parisienne, JE prends le RER dans Paris intra-muros et JE ne suis pas la seule... A partir de combien d'exception qui la confirment, la règle peut-elle être déclarée nulle et non avenue ?
Cet acharnement péremptoire à vouloir avoir raison décrédibilise, aux yeux de ceux qui suivent encore la discussion, toutes tes interventions -passées et à venir-sur Paris. 😕
Car, comment accorder foi à l'obstination puérile, à l'entêtement qui trépigne...
Te relis-tu parfois ?
Te relis-tu parfois ?
Oui, je me relis, en effet;
Tu butes juste une chose que j'ai soutenue. Admettons que certains Parisiens prennent le RER intra-muros... Deux exemples ne feront toutefois pas une généralité... Et encore une fois, si tu le prends quotidiennement pour aller à ton boulot, on en revient à ma remarque précédente.
Oui, je me relis, en effet;
Tu butes juste une chose que j'ai soutenue. Admettons que certains Parisiens prennent le RER intra-muros... Deux exemples ne feront toutefois pas une généralité... Et encore une fois, si tu le prends quotidiennement pour aller à ton boulot, on en revient à ma remarque précédente.
Non je ne suis pas seule à descendre à ma station (sur le parcours PARIS intra), simplement j'ai l'esprit pratique plutôt que de changer de ligne de métro il me semble plus rationnel d'emprunter des lignes directes et gagner du temps (deux stations au lieu de 8.....) et je prends le tramway aussi de temps en temps 😛
Je pense que lorsque c'est ton trajet quotidien, il est logique d'étudier ce qui est le plus rapide. Mais pour un déplacement "lambda", c'est-à-dire pour aller chez des copains, au ciné, dans un resto, les Parisiens d'une manière générale n'utilisent pas le RER.
Je ne comprends pas tes arguments....je dirai tout dépend où habitent mes amis, où se situent le restaurant, idem pour le ciné...j'habite à 5 mn de Rosa Park.....et 5 mn du métro CRIMEE... donc en fonction du lieu où je vais je prends le RER, le métro ou le Tram....et je ne suis pas la seule.... Il n'y a pas de honte à prendre le RER........même pour un parisien 🤪
Je pense que lorsque c'est ton trajet quotidien, il est logique d'étudier ce qui est le plus rapide. Mais pour un déplacement "lambda", c'est-à-dire pour aller chez des copains, au ciné, dans un resto, les Parisiens d'une manière générale n'utilisent pas le RER.
Je ne comprends pas tes arguments....je dirai tout dépend où habitent mes amis, où se situent le restaurant, idem pour le ciné...j'habite à 5 mn de Rosa Park.....et 5 mn du métro CRIMEE... donc en fonction du lieu où je vais je prends le RER, le métro ou le Tram....et je ne suis pas la seule.... Il n'y a pas de honte à prendre le RER........même pour un parisien 🤪
Il n'y a pas de honte à prendre le RER........même pour un parisien 🤪
C'est bien ce que j'écrivais plus haut. On aurait presque honte à habiter la banlieue. 😉
C'est bien ce que j'écrivais plus haut. On aurait presque honte à habiter la banlieue. 😉
« Voyager rend modeste. Vous voyez quelle petite place vous occupez dans le monde. » - Gustave Flaubert
https://www.myatlas.com/anneclaire95
Et oui, la banlieue c'est le no man's land, le ghetto, le lieu où il ne faut surtout pas aller quand on est parisien ! C'est moche, c'est dangereux, il n'y a rien à voir ! Et oser préférer y habiter, quelle hérésie ! Ça veut dire prendre le RER, au secours ! 🤪
http://www.lasourisglobe-trotteuse.fr/
Des milliers de photos et plein de conseils d'une souris pour voyager low-cost en Europe et hors des sentiers battus
Des milliers de photos et plein de conseils d'une souris pour voyager low-cost en Europe et hors des sentiers battus
Hyper anthropocentrique ce genre de reponse
Ego, ego. Y a pas que des humains sur terre et dans l univers, c est meme eux qui detruisent tout ca.
L univers se fout autant des humains que du vers de terre
Mais le rossignol comme tous les etres vivants, a une conscience, un esprit lui aussi, pour contempler le monde.
L univers est d ailleurs peut etre une mega conscience, l infini conscient de lui meme.
Et le singe humain est bien trop arrogant pour l envisager, en tous cas certains. Trop orgueuilleux, c est ce qui le perdra et le monde avec
Waouh... High level ! 😮
High level... Je peux créer une sorte de "faux ami" ? Tu veux dire qu'Il s'agirait d'un "haut levier", une sorte de moyen de léviter, utilisé par Paladin qui évidemment ... ne peut pas l'éviter ? Je vais demander à Stephen Hawking si c'est drôle. Zut, il vient de partir (oui, vraiment dégager), c'est raté.
Waouh... High level ! 😮
High level... Je peux créer une sorte de "faux ami" ? Tu veux dire qu'Il s'agirait d'un "haut levier", une sorte de moyen de léviter, utilisé par Paladin qui évidemment ... ne peut pas l'éviter ? Je vais demander à Stephen Hawking si c'est drôle. Zut, il vient de partir (oui, vraiment dégager), c'est raté.
Ça s'appelle une caricature, tu sais, quand on grossit la réalité pour se moquer gentiment.
http://www.lasourisglobe-trotteuse.fr/
Des milliers de photos et plein de conseils d'une souris pour voyager low-cost en Europe et hors des sentiers battus
Des milliers de photos et plein de conseils d'une souris pour voyager low-cost en Europe et hors des sentiers battus
Albert Einstein arrive un 14 mars (comme...), Stephen Hawking part un 14 mars...
ça fait presque un ... bouquet de lumière(s), non ? En partie disparu mais qui peut encore éclairer un endroit que tous les voyageurs, eux aussi, voudraient voir ... connu et respecté.
Bonne journée encore.
Aristote, un des pires "philosophes ou plutot sophistes grecs
plutôt que de critiquer il vaudrait mieux essayer de comprendre la pensée dudit philosophe. Ensuite si Aristote est un sophiste dans cet ordre d'idée la majorité des philosophes sont des sophistes de même que les mathématiciens célébres
plutôt que de critiquer il vaudrait mieux essayer de comprendre la pensée dudit philosophe. Ensuite si Aristote est un sophiste dans cet ordre d'idée la majorité des philosophes sont des sophistes de même que les mathématiciens célébres
En effet, lire des philosophes qui n'ont en réalité rien écrit, c'est plus facile.
C'est amusant de voir que face à un interlocuteur qui sait de quoi il parle, vous manquez soudain d'ardeur.
+1 , j'aime 🙂
+1 , j'aime 🙂
Le RER permet de se déplacer rapidement dans Paris hein,
c'est exact c'est bien pratique et ça permet de faire de tronçons rapidement alors que dans le métro ça prendrait plus de de temps surtout si on veut aller d'est en ouest. Et puis l'avantage du RER c'est que les stations sont grandes et les quais larges
c'est exact c'est bien pratique et ça permet de faire de tronçons rapidement alors que dans le métro ça prendrait plus de de temps surtout si on veut aller d'est en ouest. Et puis l'avantage du RER c'est que les stations sont grandes et les quais larges
Finalement, pour être beau, un endroit doit obligatoirement et avant tout ... être vide !
un endroit vide...comme les déserts du Sahara ? Donc dois-je conclure que le désert est beau alors et que la forêt tropicale ne l'est pas ? 🙂
un endroit vide...comme les déserts du Sahara ? Donc dois-je conclure que le désert est beau alors et que la forêt tropicale ne l'est pas ? 🙂
Après avoir passé 4 années en solitaire sur un voilier dans le Pacifique il m'est devenu impossible de vivre à Paris
ahhh comme vous avez bien de la chance ! 🙂 Le véritable voyage c'est ça, , passer du temps sur un voilier en solitaire.
Heureusement qu'il y a quelques personnes comme vous qui suscitent l'appel du large et le rêve... car franchement les discussions interminables quant à savoir s'il faut sortir les poubelles le soir ou quitter le centre de Paris pour la proche banlieue je ne trouve pas ça intéressant, c'est la banalité du quotidien
ahhh comme vous avez bien de la chance ! 🙂 Le véritable voyage c'est ça, , passer du temps sur un voilier en solitaire.
Heureusement qu'il y a quelques personnes comme vous qui suscitent l'appel du large et le rêve... car franchement les discussions interminables quant à savoir s'il faut sortir les poubelles le soir ou quitter le centre de Paris pour la proche banlieue je ne trouve pas ça intéressant, c'est la banalité du quotidien
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I’m also working on a second book about Nepal with a musician friend, focusing on the Mardi Himal trek—two independent perspectives on the same journey.
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Hi everyone,
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"It seems to me that poverty would be less painful in the sun" wrote Aznavour...
Not sure...😕 Who can prove that people in hot countries are happier than others? What do you think?
Is it better to live in Montpellier than in Lille? Are the Pygmies happier than the Inuit? Are Canadians less happy than the people of Louisiana? Are there more French expats in hot countries?
And your travels? Do you choose your destinations based on the climate? Do you rejoice when a bit of sunshine appears?
Not sure...😕 Who can prove that people in hot countries are happier than others? What do you think?
Is it better to live in Montpellier than in Lille? Are the Pygmies happier than the Inuit? Are Canadians less happy than the people of Louisiana? Are there more French expats in hot countries?
And your travels? Do you choose your destinations based on the climate? Do you rejoice when a bit of sunshine appears?
Hi everyone, just this once I’m not posting for a travel story, but to share a thought for Venezuela.
If you didn’t know—since it’s not making headlines—the country was hit by two 7.5-magnitude earthquakes last week. Over 2,200 people have died, more than 50,000 are missing, and some coastal towns have been completely destroyed. Maybe when the scale of the humanitarian crisis becomes clear, our media will cover it a bit more... especially since earthquakes with this many casualties usually make the front page, but there’s been nothing in France.
So here’s a thought for this country, which, whatever you think of its politics, is a true jewel of South America, both for its landscapes and its people.
If you didn’t know—since it’s not making headlines—the country was hit by two 7.5-magnitude earthquakes last week. Over 2,200 people have died, more than 50,000 are missing, and some coastal towns have been completely destroyed. Maybe when the scale of the humanitarian crisis becomes clear, our media will cover it a bit more... especially since earthquakes with this many casualties usually make the front page, but there’s been nothing in France.
So here’s a thought for this country, which, whatever you think of its politics, is a true jewel of South America, both for its landscapes and its people.
hi there
I’d like to invite you to discover my coastal province in central Vietnam: Quang Ngai.
This year, my province has really improved its infrastructure—mountains, countryside, and sea are all authentic here.
No harassers or thieves, and no Russians either.
A local lunch costs around 1 €.
A *** hotel room is about 25 €, and you can find hotels right on My Khe Beach.
We have a specialty: *banh xeo*—10 crepes for just 1.5 €.
You can rent motorbikes to explore the province and maybe visit the many ethnic minorities.
I live here—I’m not selling anything, but I can help if needed (my father-in-law is a traditional Vietnamese doctor and he’s very skilled).
We're planning to spend a month in Vietnam. Is hiring a guide helpful?
Hi everyone! 😉
I’m Typhaine, 35 years old. Five years ago, I left France for a solo round-the-world trip—no planes, just a van, hitchhiking, cycling, and even a canoe in the Amazon! Today, I work as a naturalist guide in Argentine Patagonia.
Wherever I go, my compass stays the same: observing and photographing wildlife, which I deeply admire and respect.
My project: I’d love to share this experience through a sustainable, authentic, and immersive nature tourism initiative. But to build something meaningful, I need to understand how other nature enthusiasts experience their own adventures.
If you:
Are over 20 years old
Have a true passion for Nature
Have already taken at least one trip lasting more than 3 nights (in your country or abroad) in your life
Then... would you have 5 to 7 minutes to help me by filling out this questionnaire? 🙂 »» https://forms.gle/y74ckkvN9TjrougLA
Promise: I’m not selling anything, this isn’t marketing. Your answers are 100% anonymous and will only help me shape this wild project. A huge thank you to everyone for your help and kindness! Looking forward to chatting in this thread 😛
(Dear admins, this is purely a collaborative effort for my project study, with no commercial purpose. Thank you so much for your support!)
Photo: Grizzly Bear (Ursus arctos horribilis), female on the left and her cub on the right. Photo taken by me in Alaska, Denali National Park.
My project: I’d love to share this experience through a sustainable, authentic, and immersive nature tourism initiative. But to build something meaningful, I need to understand how other nature enthusiasts experience their own adventures.
If you:
Are over 20 years old
Have a true passion for Nature
Have already taken at least one trip lasting more than 3 nights (in your country or abroad) in your life
Then... would you have 5 to 7 minutes to help me by filling out this questionnaire? 🙂 »» https://forms.gle/y74ckkvN9TjrougLA
Promise: I’m not selling anything, this isn’t marketing. Your answers are 100% anonymous and will only help me shape this wild project. A huge thank you to everyone for your help and kindness! Looking forward to chatting in this thread 😛
(Dear admins, this is purely a collaborative effort for my project study, with no commercial purpose. Thank you so much for your support!)
Photo: Grizzly Bear (Ursus arctos horribilis), female on the left and her cub on the right. Photo taken by me in Alaska, Denali National Park.
Hello everyone,
It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question. They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕 Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
Please forgive my little rant.
Wishing everyone all the best. Cheers,
Puma2A

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It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question. They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕 Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
Please forgive my little rant.
Wishing everyone all the best. Cheers,
Puma2A

...
I spent 3 weeks in Bali last summer (+ 3 nights on Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java). So I wanted to see what ChatGPT could suggest for comparison...
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.). Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did. I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights Sidemen (2 nights) Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD: - Walk around central Ubud (1–2h) - Campuhan Ridge Walk - Tegalalang Rice Terrace - Tirta Empul - Gunung Kawi - Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN: - Rice terrace hike (2–3h) - Cooking class
IN AMED: - Snorkeling - Japanese Shipwreck - Beach + relaxation - Volcano sunset
ON GILI: - Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK: - Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall - Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level) - Ulun Danu Bratan Temple - Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN - Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well: 👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option 12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM) 1 PM: ferry 3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer 11 PM: start ascent 2 AM–6 AM: volcano Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM) 👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency 💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR: - Relaxation - Quiet beach - Proximity to airport (30 min)"
BUDGET: "3,000 – 3,900 € for 2 people" (We paid 3,200 €)
In conclusion, it’s not (yet) enough, but it’s (already) pretty impressive!
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.). Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did. I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights Sidemen (2 nights) Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD: - Walk around central Ubud (1–2h) - Campuhan Ridge Walk - Tegalalang Rice Terrace - Tirta Empul - Gunung Kawi - Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN: - Rice terrace hike (2–3h) - Cooking class
IN AMED: - Snorkeling - Japanese Shipwreck - Beach + relaxation - Volcano sunset
ON GILI: - Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK: - Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall - Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level) - Ulun Danu Bratan Temple - Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN - Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well: 👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option 12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM) 1 PM: ferry 3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer 11 PM: start ascent 2 AM–6 AM: volcano Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM) 👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency 💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR: - Relaxation - Quiet beach - Proximity to airport (30 min)"
BUDGET: "3,000 – 3,900 € for 2 people" (We paid 3,200 €)
In conclusion, it’s not (yet) enough, but it’s (already) pretty impressive!
Hello everyone,
I’m sharing the menu posted at the entrance of a bar at the foot of the Porto Tower in Southern Corsica. . .
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Greetings and have a great Sunday.
Puma2A . .

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I’m sharing the menu posted at the entrance of a bar at the foot of the Porto Tower in Southern Corsica. . .
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.Greetings and have a great Sunday.
Puma2A . .

...
I’ve kept the habit of blowing my nose in the sink and then washing my hands—a custom I picked up in India. Sometimes, non-travelers are shocked when they catch me in the act... 🤪
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
Do you bring back customs from your travels?
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
Do you bring back customs from your travels?
After taking a little trip around the world, I came back a few months ago with an idea in mind.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya). There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya). There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
As part of my Master’s thesis, I’m currently conducting a public survey on a topic that concerns all of us when planning a trip: artificial intelligence and the role of human contact in travel planning.
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
Survey link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkmBzW2QOE3_ZirhmdG8e2LQyaWLJxWUeyTR0LzpC8ytlufQ/viewform
Your response will be a huge help for my work and will contribute to a broader reflection on the future of the travel experience.
Thanks in advance to everyone who takes the time to participate!!
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
Survey link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkmBzW2QOE3_ZirhmdG8e2LQyaWLJxWUeyTR0LzpC8ytlufQ/viewform
Your response will be a huge help for my work and will contribute to a broader reflection on the future of the travel experience.
Thanks in advance to everyone who takes the time to participate!!
While browsing the forum to gather info for my upcoming trip to Thailand, I often see the terms "traveler," "great traveler," and also "tourist"—so what’s the nuance for you?
I've traveled quite a bit in Vietnam over the past few years—from the southern delta to bustling cities and even some small islands—but what really sticks with me is the north, the high mountains.
Up there, there's something different—maybe slower, more raw. The morning markets with ethnic groups, women in traditional clothes, the colors...
The stilt houses, kids following you and laughing for no reason, the terraced rice fields—it almost feels unreal at times, so vast and quiet, yet so human and simple.
You often hear that Sapa has become too touristy, and that's partly true, especially in the center. But as soon as you move a little farther away, everything changes quickly. The landscapes open up, encounters feel more natural, and you rediscover something truly authentic.
I think it's that contrast that struck me—the difference between what you imagine before going and what you actually discover when you take the time.
And you—what memory do you hold onto from Vietnam? A particular place that touched you more than others?
Hello,
We’re finalizing the plans for our upcoming trip to China in May 2025. The second-to-last stop will be in Zhangjiajie, where we’ve planned to stay for 2 full days before heading to Shanghai.
We’re traveling solo using local transport and have arranged to stay in the city of Zhangjiajie.
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see: Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees. We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain. But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
Do you know if it’s possible to get around on our own, or is it better to go through a local agency or book a package like the one sold by TravelChinaGuide? https://www.travelchinaguide.com/package/zhangjiajie/2days-tour.htm
Thanks in advance for your advice! Alod
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see: Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees. We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain. But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
Do you know if it’s possible to get around on our own, or is it better to go through a local agency or book a package like the one sold by TravelChinaGuide? https://www.travelchinaguide.com/package/zhangjiajie/2days-tour.htm
Thanks in advance for your advice! Alod
Hello 🙂
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore. A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Catherine
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore. A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Catherine
Hi everyone, here’s our itinerary. Arriving on the evening of December 13th. Departing on January 7th.
Thanks in advance for your tips and valuable feedback.
Manila – 1 night Coron – 4 nights Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights El Nido – 4 nights Port Barton – 5 nights Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan Vigan – 2 nights Sagada – 2 nights Banaue – 2 nights Bagabag – 1 night Manila – 1 night I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Thanks in advance. Florence
Manila – 1 night Coron – 4 nights Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights El Nido – 4 nights Port Barton – 5 nights Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan Vigan – 2 nights Sagada – 2 nights Banaue – 2 nights Bagabag – 1 night Manila – 1 night I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Thanks in advance. Florence
Really disappointed with Costa Rica! Pura vida? The scam of the century!
(Costa Rica pure emptiness).
The country where animals are free and people are in cages. 3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer. Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness. My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place. On the main routes, we visited: San José Alajuela Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side) Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side) And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched. He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown. What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor. At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José: It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken. On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox. From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire. Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets. Bars with security guards out front. I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel. The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses. The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in. A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park. Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further. We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it. A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces. A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures. But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business. Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse! According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable. Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos. A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park! A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park. The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color. Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded! Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30. The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches. As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves. A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!" For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex! The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for? For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places. In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs: Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you. For everyone else: run!
The country where animals are free and people are in cages. 3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer. Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness. My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place. On the main routes, we visited: San José Alajuela Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side) Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side) And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched. He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown. What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor. At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José: It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken. On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox. From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire. Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets. Bars with security guards out front. I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel. The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses. The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in. A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park. Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further. We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it. A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces. A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures. But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business. Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse! According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable. Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos. A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park! A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park. The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color. Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded! Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30. The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches. As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves. A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!" For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex! The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for? For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places. In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs: Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you. For everyone else: run!
Hello,
Since the war between Russia and Ukraine, nothing is simple anymore for traveling to Belarus due to sanctions.
No more direct flights from the EU to Minsk.
Driving is a huge hassle, especially crossing through Poland at the only open border in Brest—you can wait 2, 3, or even 4 days just to get through by car.
The least painful driving option is to come via Lithuania and cross at the only open border, with a minimum wait time of 8 hours, sometimes up to 20 hours or more!!
Controls are very strict and annoying on both the Lithuanian and Belarusian sides. Avoid bringing alcohol, food, or cigarettes—everything will end up in the trash, especially when leaving Belarus for Vilnius, where the Lithuanians are tough, even with EU citizens.
The joy I once knew when visiting my wife in Minsk is sadly over—it’s now a real ordeal.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example. For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk. The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border. The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times. Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot). For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border. You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes. From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??). With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!! For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations. However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards. Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future. After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example. For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk. The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border. The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times. Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot). For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border. You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes. From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??). With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!! For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations. However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards. Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future. After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
Hi everyone!
I’m putting together our travel itinerary for Veneto at the end of April. And the more I look and research potential sites to visit, the more I find!
We’ll only be there for a week—my family and I—including 3 days in Venice. So we have to make some choices...
I plan to rent a car when we arrive in Venice and head straight to Bergamo, which would be our first stop. We’d leave the car at the airport when we return to Venice so we can explore the city at our leisure.
What do you think: 1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport), 1 night in Garda, 1 night in Verona, 1 in Padua, and 3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
What do you think: 1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport), 1 night in Garda, 1 night in Verona, 1 in Padua, and 3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
Now that the curtain has fallen on the past year, it’s time to see what’s happening around here.
It seems pretty quiet, but I’ll read more in detail later.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year. I told her: “Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.” “But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.” I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk. “Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.” I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen. “Mamido, I did it!” My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no! “Congratulations, sweetheart!” A little shyly, she said: “Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying: “Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint! But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out. Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me. But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back. My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special? That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year. I told her: “Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.” “But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.” I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk. “Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.” I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen. “Mamido, I did it!” My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no! “Congratulations, sweetheart!” A little shyly, she said: “Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying: “Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint! But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out. Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me. But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back. My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special? That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
I’ve visited the U.S. four times myself, including two long road trips. The last one was just this past August...
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
Hi there,
While reading some travel journals, I notice that we always reflect on the people of the countries we visit.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on which people charmed you the most during your travels?
I’m not looking for controversy, just reflections and personal feelings. Looking forward to reading your replies...
While reading some travel journals, I notice that we always reflect on the people of the countries we visit.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on which people charmed you the most during your travels?
I’m not looking for controversy, just reflections and personal feelings. Looking forward to reading your replies...
Hello everyone,
Controversial topic? Not necessarily—maybe just a reflection on a world to come.
I spent the last 15 days of August on a cruise in Greenland, from Kangerlussuaq to Tasiilaq.
I was utterly amazed by this unique world of rock and ice, the little houses in every color, a simple life that’s also complicated by isolation and climate, among other things...
I carry in my heart the kindness of the people I met, the raw and gentle majesty of the icebergs, the colors of the sky...
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
Best regards,
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
Best regards,

Hello to all East Africa lovers and nature enthusiasts in general,
While I prepare to share a recap of our latest trip/safari in Kenya soon, I’d like to wish you all a peaceful transition between 2025 and 2026.
Warm regards,
Puma2A.





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We’re a couple aged 58 and 63. We’ve just returned from a wonderful trip to South India in Tamil Nadu and a few days in Kerala. We traveled with a local French-speaking guide and his friend, the driver. They both live in Pondicherry. We spent 3 weeks with them in the most authentic way!
We covered just over 2,500 km and visited not only temples but also archaeological sites, museums, and small artisanal businesses making tiles, tea, sculptures, bronze, and silk spinning. We were lucky enough to visit a public school, attend a wedding, and even a death announcement in a small countryside village. We were fully immersed in the culture, food, noise, and colors—it was incredible!
The hotels and guesthouses we chose were very clean and mostly quiet. We’re returning from India with amazing discoveries!
We’re happy to share more info if you’d like! M-Claire and Jean
We covered just over 2,500 km and visited not only temples but also archaeological sites, museums, and small artisanal businesses making tiles, tea, sculptures, bronze, and silk spinning. We were lucky enough to visit a public school, attend a wedding, and even a death announcement in a small countryside village. We were fully immersed in the culture, food, noise, and colors—it was incredible!
The hotels and guesthouses we chose were very clean and mostly quiet. We’re returning from India with amazing discoveries!
We’re happy to share more info if you’d like! M-Claire and Jean
This catchy and somewhat mysterious title comes from several questions I’ve been asking myself.
VF has been back open for a reasonable number of weeks and months now. The number of visitors overall matches past averages, but the number of members online in the last 24 hours seems relatively lower than what we used to see.
Yet, to my surprise, I’m seeing fewer travel journals, way fewer messages, and way fewer questions. I don’t see many new registered users online, and I notice a number of members who are logged in but either aren’t participating or have stopped participating.
Something’s not adding up for me because, in my opinion, VF is still appealing, and I don’t see which other sites could really compete.
Was there a real break between pre- and post-Covid? Does it just take more time for some people to discover the site or learn that it’s active again? Do people now prefer quick consumption on sites like FB or others I’m not familiar with? Where have the site’s old-timers gone, and what are they doing with their time now? What’s really going on here?
VF has been back open for a reasonable number of weeks and months now. The number of visitors overall matches past averages, but the number of members online in the last 24 hours seems relatively lower than what we used to see.
Yet, to my surprise, I’m seeing fewer travel journals, way fewer messages, and way fewer questions. I don’t see many new registered users online, and I notice a number of members who are logged in but either aren’t participating or have stopped participating.
Something’s not adding up for me because, in my opinion, VF is still appealing, and I don’t see which other sites could really compete.
Was there a real break between pre- and post-Covid? Does it just take more time for some people to discover the site or learn that it’s active again? Do people now prefer quick consumption on sites like FB or others I’m not familiar with? Where have the site’s old-timers gone, and what are they doing with their time now? What’s really going on here?
Hi there,
This isn’t exactly a traveler’s question... I’d like to know who handles the technical side of this forum?
I run a similar forum on a different topic (unrecognized children), and we’re dealing with a few technical issues that are slowly killing our forum... so I’d have one or two questions to ask 😊.
Also, I was wondering who created this forum... who the administrators or moderators are, etc.
I think this forum is great. Much better than Facebook, which I’ve been using since it shut down (so I’m happy to see it’s working again...)
This isn’t exactly a traveler’s question... I’d like to know who handles the technical side of this forum?
I run a similar forum on a different topic (unrecognized children), and we’re dealing with a few technical issues that are slowly killing our forum... so I’d have one or two questions to ask 😊.
Also, I was wondering who created this forum... who the administrators or moderators are, etc.
I think this forum is great. Much better than Facebook, which I’ve been using since it shut down (so I’m happy to see it’s working again...)
Hi there, I’ve been traveling for 18 years now, at least 6 months a year, and as the years go by, I actually enjoy coming back to France more and more—a feeling I struggled with at first. I mean, we always think the grass is greener elsewhere.
But in the end, I find meaning in that saying about how there’s no place like home. I still love traveling just as much, but now my trips are shorter, and I enjoy spending more time in our beautiful country, even though I don’t hesitate to criticize it.
How about you? How do you handle coming back from your travels?