Review of a disappointing cruise with Rivages du Monde in Iceland and Greenland
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CA Cathielescot Veteran ·
Thanks, Catherine, for this really interesting review to follow. It’s such a shame the mishaps shortened the cruise. Thanks for your analysis and conclusions.

Indeed, this is a company to avoid, and the itinerary was a bit disappointing.
4Y 4yne Globetrotter ·
Hi Sylvie,

No worries, there are so many other beautiful places to discover on our wonderful planet—why not Patagonia, New Zealand, Australia, or the gem... Antarctica, among my favorite destinations.
Catherine
4Y 4yne Globetrotter ·
Hi Catherine, That’s exactly it.
Catherine
VS Vsylvie Globetrotter ·
It's clear that you really sold me on Antarctica... I'm still drooling after reading your account! 2019 is my "upgrade" year with Costa—I’ve spotted a few dates with what looks like 4 stops in Iceland... so instead of a road trip... I’m also tempted by St. Petersburg, but only on a cruise. I save road trips for "nature." 2020 will be for road trips or maybe an exceptional expedition cruise... I still have some time to think it over and decide...
PA Pasan59 Veteran ·
Hi Catherine, A big thank you for the savings you helped me make—it’s a cruise I’d have regretted, especially now, at least with this cruise line. For ice, I’ll settle for what I’ll see in Alaska next year with Cunard. Them, I know 😛. Anyway, your trip reports are always such a pleasure to read, even when the news isn’t always great. See you soon for new adventures! 🙂
Pascal "Ce qui est important, ce n'est pas d'arriver, mais d'aller vers..." Saint Exupéry
4Y 4yne Globetrotter ·
Thanks Pascal, your words mean a lot to me. Alaska with Cunard is an excellent choice—it’s so beautiful and vibrant, and the glaciers there are stunning.

I’m lucky enough to be heading back soon: New Zealand, Tasmania, and Australia with HAL. I can’t wait…
Catherine
JO Joska Veteran ·
Hi 4yne- Thanks for all your excellent cruise reports and beautiful photos from your trips (Antarctica and Greenland) that I’ve been following closely—luckily, we have quite a few cruise operators to choose from, both in the North and the South 😉 which puts us in a better position to compare the pros and cons of each company and weigh them fairly. After returning last June to the North Pole and the Russian Arctic’s Franz Josef Land on the Russian nuclear icebreaker *50 let Pobedy* (with, as fellow passengers, a Ponant team scouting for the icebreaker *Commandant Charcot* and its cruises: North Pole and Franz Josef Archipelago starting June 2021, for which paid pre-reservations for 2021 are almost closed), I’m switching regions for a departure from Honolulu on October 4th and all the way to Easter Island by November 7th, aboard Ponant’s *Le Boréal*! You may have followed the latest adventures of the *Boréal* (and the *Soléal*), which had to cancel their Northwest Passage crossings due to the impossibility of passing through the Bellot Strait, even with a Canadian icebreaker, because of the heavy ice in Canada’s Nunavut this year, 2018! Just goes to show that the weather always calls the shots for all companies, no matter where you are—North or South—and it’s something you should never forget, given how much it can directly impact the success or failure of an expedition cruise! Best regards.
JS
CL Clau05 Globetrotter ·
Good evening Catherine,

Thanks for your review...

I’ll settle for the magnificent memory of Greenland I kept from the flyover on my way to Canada... I’m not at all tempted by the cruise you took, especially its second part. On the other hand, I really enjoyed the one in Iceland, even though MSC swapped our stops and forced us to do the Golden Circle with their excursion instead of on our own with a rental car as planned...

I hope your next cruise will live up to your expectations... and make up for the others.

Best regards, Claudine
4Y 4yne Globetrotter ·
Hi Joska,

I followed the updates on the *Soléal* and *Boréal* you shared—thanks for doing that. In their case, it was clearly a real reason imposed by Mother Nature, and fortunately, the crews on those ships are used to dealing with her. I can only imagine how difficult it must have been to manage, but they found solutions even if retreating was inevitable. For the passengers, I can imagine the disappointment, but they experienced a real adventure firsthand, and I think Ponant will know how to comfort them.

I agree that the weather decides, but when it comes to "non-expedition" cruise ships, the excuse of wind or rough seas is used so often—whether it’s justified or not—to hide something else or avoid responsibility that it’s no longer believable. At least, that’s been my experience with my last two trips, which had multiple cancellations.

True, Polynesia will be a big change for you, but it’s not a bad one either...
Catherine
4Y 4yne Globetrotter ·
Hi Claudine,

It's true that Greenland is really beautiful from the sky. I think more and more people are going there in the spring (but not by boat) before the snow melts—maybe that’s better.
Catherine
H2 H2 ·
True, I’ve been there several times, a while ago now, and there were still very few tourists. The idea of "doing" Iceland on a cruise would never even cross my mind—like, not at all! You "do" Iceland on horseback, ...or by bike, on foot...maybe in a 4x4....
hh
HY Hyerois83 Globetrotter ·
You "do" Iceland on horseback, ...but also by bike...or on foot...let's say by 4x4..

It’s a bit like the Auvergne—poorly served by cruises🙂
H2 H2 ·
Yes, exactly, good comparison—Iceland isn’t somewhere you go primarily for its rivieras... so... by boat... maybe I sound negative... but when we went to Iceland 25 years ago, the only tourists were, like us, on horseback... and stayed in mountain huts. It was still pretty much Iceland as the Icelanders knew it. Nowadays, everyone wants to go everywhere... but with all their comforts... and, you know, the best is the enemy of the good. Iceland in a 3-star hotel or on a luxury cruise ship... it’s just not really Iceland anymore. (;-))...
hh
CR Cristianh Globetrotter ·
You "do" Iceland on horseback, ...but also by bike...or on foot...let's say by 4x4..

It's a bit like the Auvergne, poorly served by cruises🙂

😎
Christian
PO Poupou10 Globetrotter ·
Personally, I was thrilled to go to Iceland on a cruise. 3 days were enough for me. I got a great glimpse of the landscape, and that was perfectly sufficient. I won’t be going back because the climate is too harsh even in summer, and I’m craving sunshine. It can be perfectly suitable, though.
Isabelle, amoureuse des croisières: COSTA, MSC, ROYAL CARIBBEAN, CELEBRITY, PRINCESS, NCL, HAL, PONANT, OCEANIA, AZAMARA A VENIR CELEBRITY EQUINOX 09/11/2026 Grèce Italie Malte
H2 H2 ·
Hello, go where you like, but I don’t think you can truly get to know and appreciate Iceland and the Icelandic people just by passing through on a boat. Why did you even go there in the first place? I think you and I don’t travel in the same way at all, and we don’t have the same reasons for traveling.

The first time we went to Iceland was in 1992—there was almost no one there, and we thought, *here’s a great destination that won’t attract crowds*... well, it did... too bad!

Best regards.
hh
PO Poupou10 Globetrotter ·
I have no idea if we share the same travel style? We don’t know each other. Personally, I do all kinds of trips—cruise circuits, beach stays, city breaks... In short, in 3 days, we obviously didn’t see all of Iceland, but we got a good overview, and that was enough for this destination. On the other hand, for example, in the American West, we did a road trip for nearly 4 weeks, and we still dream of going back because we loved it so much... And finally, why did I go to Iceland? A short trip to discover new landscapes without spending too much time there—5°C in summer is fine in small doses. That didn’t stop us from having a great time, just like in Norway and the Faroe Islands, which were also part of the itinerary... To each their own tastes, but please don’t judge—you don’t know him.
Isabelle, amoureuse des croisières: COSTA, MSC, ROYAL CARIBBEAN, CELEBRITY, PRINCESS, NCL, HAL, PONANT, OCEANIA, AZAMARA A VENIR CELEBRITY EQUINOX 09/11/2026 Grèce Italie Malte
CR Cristianh Globetrotter ·
..................... it was in 1992, there was almost no one, and we had said to ourselves, here's a great destination that wouldn't attract crowds... well, yes... too bad!......

Hello,

It seems reasonable to claim, then, that your judgments and predictions aren’t very reliable.

On the other hand, your conclusion, though brief, doesn’t seem to reveal... an approach free of a certain self-proclaimed superiority either. Could we assume that, in your words, a "crowd" at a site deserves a "rant" in writing?

Our contributor’s report, with multiple stories already appreciated here, remains critical while addressing societal changes—values you don’t seem to share.

Best regards,
Christian
H2 H2 ·
Hello Sir, I chimed in because I happened to come across your friend’s message, who was very disappointed with her cruise to Svalbard. I took the liberty of mentioning that I’d been there on a small boat fitted for 12 people (and there were 10 of us, including a crew of 3). Even though we didn’t cover a huge distance, we were thrilled with everything we saw and did—whether it was the wildlife, landscapes, discoveries, remnants of whaling history, or the visits to the remains of 19th-century polar expeditions. We also went ashore several times a day. Personally, a ship with 200 or 300 people wouldn’t have suited us at all, but every way of traveling has its pros and cons. That said, reading: "I saw the coasts of Iceland—that’s enough for me," really leaves me baffled. But yes, Iceland *is* cold, damp, and windy, and you can experience all four seasons in a single day. When you’re on foot, horseback, or even in a vehicle, it can be unpleasant—or even worse at times. Yes, Iceland (among other places) is something you have to *earn*, but what a pleasure it is to dismount from your horse or step out of the car and go soak in hot springs... surrounded by volcanic ash landscapes... and those waterfalls... and the fumaroles... and the geysers... and the cascades... and...!! And if you’re interested in Icelandic history and the Icelandic people, you should read *Iceland’s Bell*...
hh
PO Poupou10 Globetrotter ·
Everything you describe can be experienced on a cruise layover! We also went to the Blue Lagoon, saw the fumaroles, geysers, the Golden Circle, waterfalls, and volcanic ash landscapes. No need to stay a whole month to see all that LOL!!
Isabelle, amoureuse des croisières: COSTA, MSC, ROYAL CARIBBEAN, CELEBRITY, PRINCESS, NCL, HAL, PONANT, OCEANIA, AZAMARA A VENIR CELEBRITY EQUINOX 09/11/2026 Grèce Italie Malte
H2 H2 ·
Yes, you're right—and by bus, no less! I’m sorry to see you didn’t read or understand my message properly. I’ll return the favor: you can "do" Yellowstone in 3 days—or even less... for... those who think it’s too hot there!!
hh
PO Poupou10 Globetrotter ·
Why by bus? Ugh, your arrogance is painful to see.
Isabelle, amoureuse des croisières: COSTA, MSC, ROYAL CARIBBEAN, CELEBRITY, PRINCESS, NCL, HAL, PONANT, OCEANIA, AZAMARA A VENIR CELEBRITY EQUINOX 09/11/2026 Grèce Italie Malte
H2 H2 ·
sorry, it wasn’t arrogance at all... just humor.....!!!! Not everyone likes the same things or the way they’re done... and that’s a good thing! I’ll just remind you that this discussion started because someone complained about the lack of visits and the time allocated for sightseeing, especially for spotting polar bears during their Spitzbergen cruise.... let’s leave it at that if you don’t mind... I wish you a wonderful next cruise... mine will be on a small 15-meter sailboat from Pointe-à-Pitre to Les Saintes... (;-))....
hh
LO Louxor71 Veteran ·
Good thing it’s not too far—15 meters long is still quite a shake! Have a good crossing, and let others, well, accept, I mean, enjoy their trips or cruises however they like. To each their own—Iceland in 3 days? Fine by me, I’d go just to see it. 😏
louxor71
HY Hyerois83 Globetrotter ·
Hi Hervé, You’ve just logged onto a forum dedicated to cruise enthusiasts. There’s no point in trying to compare it with other ways to travel. Everyone has their own advantages, for sure.
CR Cristianh Globetrotter ·
Hello,

Your opinion is clear, and your arguments are solid and respectable.

I’m not without experience in this region. However, its history in the 18th century, linked to that of Denmark, as well as the origins of its earliest settlers, don’t captivate me beyond a quick curious glance. The local geology would be far more interesting in my eyes.

Thanks for your perspective,

Best regards,
Christian
PO Poupou10 Globetrotter ·
You all feel so superior with your tiny boats and criticizing large cruise ships without ever having tried them... What arrogance! Oh no, silly me, it's just humor. 😕 It’d be so much more interesting to talk about what we actually know instead of citing baseless assumptions. The person who shared their cruise experience is an expert, and if they complained about a lack of time and poor organization, they had every right to. This isn’t a generalization about cruise ships—don’t take it personally.
Isabelle, amoureuse des croisières: COSTA, MSC, ROYAL CARIBBEAN, CELEBRITY, PRINCESS, NCL, HAL, PONANT, OCEANIA, AZAMARA A VENIR CELEBRITY EQUINOX 09/11/2026 Grèce Italie Malte
NA Nataly03 Globetrotter ·
hi there, and I hope you’ll take my opinion in the spirit it’s meant. Not claiming to be an expert on cruise ships or anything else… but I think—and it’s something we’re starting to realize—(I just canceled an Alaska cruise because of this, even though our HAL cruise was great and we loved it).

Some destinations are perfect for cruises, and you know we’re big fans… but others just don’t work. Cruises are fantastic for the comfort they offer: discovering multiple countries in a short time without having to move your luggage, great food, minimal logistical hassle… we’re all for that +++.

But for some destinations, it’s not ideal. You end up in ports at the ends of the earth (that was a bit our experience in Nova Scotia, New France, etc.), and I feel the same about Alaska… and maybe Iceland too. It’s obvious you can’t claim to *know* Iceland after just two port stops.

Both options have their merits, and both are great. Just not for the same reasons. And honestly, the experience feels more *real* on a road trip than on a cruise.
nathalie
PO Poupou10 Globetrotter ·
I agree that not all destinations are suited to the cruise formula, but it also depends on what you're looking for and your personal tastes. For our part, in Iceland, we were able to see a lot by going with a local guide. What we saw in 3 days was enough for us—we got a good overview of the Icelandic landscapes, and that’s exactly what we were after since we didn’t want to spend 15 days of vacation there. So, for our personal situation, the cruise was a perfectly suitable way to experience this destination.
Isabelle, amoureuse des croisières: COSTA, MSC, ROYAL CARIBBEAN, CELEBRITY, PRINCESS, NCL, HAL, PONANT, OCEANIA, AZAMARA A VENIR CELEBRITY EQUINOX 09/11/2026 Grèce Italie Malte
BE Beinheim Regular ·
Your photos are gorgeous!! My dream😎 What do you recommend about this cruise—I’m thinking of doing it with MSC this year. (I took the liberty of sending you a PM) Josiane
BE Beinheim Regular ·
hi there is this cruise tempting you? it did me 😉 but not with this company—I’m even planning to book it tomorrow.... Josiane
4Y 4yne Globetrotter ·
Hi Josiane,

This cruise is very beautiful, but as you said, not with this company!
Catherine
BE Beinheim Regular ·
so you’re recommending this cruise to me? It’d be with MSC Orchestra!
JO Joska Veteran ·
DM reply about the Astoria adventure ;)
JS
MA Maclaro Regular ·
Hello,

I was also in Ilulissat at that time on the *Soléal*. We stayed at anchor because the ferry has priority, and there were three ships of the same size: the *Fram*, the *Océan Diamond* (formerly *Diamant du Ponant*), and the *Soléal*, all at anchor, and we all had shuttles with the dinghies. There were also Danish military personnel conducting safety exercises. During this stop, we did three excursions: the fishing boat (they have exclusivity), the romantic walk along the fjord, and we treated ourselves to a flight over the icefjord.

I don’t understand why they left you offshore and refused the dinghies.

A few photos of Ilulissat: https://subantarctiques.blogspot.com/2018/08/icefjord-en-avion.html



The whole cruise: https://subantarctiques.blogspot.com/2018/07/kangerlusuaq.html



Have a good evening
Marie-Claude https://subantarctiques.blogspot.fr/ https://manchotpapou.blogspot.fr/
4Y 4yne Globetrotter ·
I don’t understand why you’d leave us offshore and refuse the tenders.

Hi Marie-Claude,

It really is incomprehensible and unimaginable until you’ve experienced it.
Catherine
MA Maclaro Regular ·
Good evening Catherine, I made a mistake—it wasn’t by rowboat but by Zodiac that we went ashore. But the problem was pretty much the same. Have a good evening, Marie-Claude
Marie-Claude https://subantarctiques.blogspot.fr/ https://manchotpapou.blogspot.fr/
4Y 4yne Globetrotter ·
Hi Marie-Claude,

Yes, with Ponant they use Zodiacs, but on the day we were in Ilulissat, the Seabourn Quest was anchored at the entrance of the port and was disembarking its passengers with its tenders.
Catherine
JA Jarod3110 Regular ·
Hi everyone, Despite some comments, I’m going to try the cruise on board the MS Astoria. (Especially with the promo—buy one, get one free.) But I still have a few questions: What should I wear in Greenland? (Ski jacket? Hat? …) What should I wear on the boat? (They mentioned it’s very chilly!!) Are there themed evenings like on MSC or Costa, or not at all? Is the pool heated? (I’m bringing my son along.) Thanks again!
VS Vsylvie Globetrotter ·
hello

However, for some destinations, it's not as great because you end up in ports at the end of the world. (That was a bit our case in Nova Scotia, New France, etc.) In my opinion, it's a bit similar in Alaska...

And it's really obvious that the discovery feels more "real" on a road trip than on a cruise.

This message is a bit old... but I can't agree with you about Alaska. Having done both, I can tell you that Alaska can be discovered in two ways... On a road trip, allowing you to see the interior of the land with very interesting stops, but the cruise is also very useful for discovering landscapes accessible only by sea. For example, the magnificent Hubbard Glacier, with its unsuspected splendor and grandeur! But it's remote and only accessible by sea, of course! Juneau, the administrative capital of Alaska, is only accessible by sea and air! And so many other places... So as I've already told you, a cruise in Alaska is great, but with a road trip portion too! And vice versa!! The cruise also lets you "rack up" miles that would be very tiring by car.

As for the more general topic, while it's true that cruise stops are often just a way to get a "glimpse" of the country, they're sometimes the best way to discover them. I'm thinking especially of Norway, which, in my opinion, is best discovered by sea... But also many Caribbean islands, which, if you're not keen on lying on the beach for a week, can easily be explored in just a few hours.
4Y 4yne Globetrotter ·
Hi Philippe,

Taking advantage of the promotion will leave you with fewer regrets—the itinerary is still amazing.

How to dress depends on the weather you’ll get. The best approach is to layer with "onion-style" clothing so you can peel off layers if it’s nice out. Don’t forget gloves, hats, and scarves. Ski clothes if the weather’s bad.

On the boat, I don’t remember it being cold, but don’t pack summer outfits. No themed evenings. The pool isn’t heated and is probably pretty chilly. The amenities on the boat are generally quite basic and rudimentary.
Catherine
MO Monique66240 Regular ·
Hi Catherine, I just finished reading all 8 pages of your post in one go, drawn in by the title and the name Rivages du Monde... Indeed, we booked the Patagonia trip a year ago, and I’m dreading the idea of being disappointed, even though it’s not the same type of trip—the Patagonia cruise explores the fjords with daily zodiac outings... I still haven’t found any reviews of this trip from others who’ve already done it, and I hope we won’t run into the same problems you had to deal with... We leave on February 20th, fingers crossed!
Heureux qui comme Ulysse, a fait un beau voyage....
4Y 4yne Globetrotter ·
Hi Monique, I’m really sorry to have made you doubt before your departure. Maybe you won’t be as disappointed as I was. Think of the stunning landscapes you’re going to discover—it’s a beautiful itinerary.
Catherine
MO Monique66240 Regular ·
Thanks Catherine, I’ll post a review after we return on March 6th... hoping for nothing but good news! In 2018, we did New Zealand with Croisières d’Exception, and there were also a few hiccups with the excursions, which didn’t match the description at all. But in that case, thanks to the cruise director who personally intervened for the whole group, we were compensated 600 €. Still, I’d prefer everything to go smoothly this time! We’ll start getting ready, because February 20th will be here before we know it... and happy 2020 to all readers!
Heureux qui comme Ulysse, a fait un beau voyage....
MO Monique66240 Regular ·
Well, here we are! Back since March 6th, and given the circumstances, I haven’t really had the time or the inclination to post... but you’ve got to think about something else sometimes, and if it can help take your mind off things, I’ll give you a rundown of our trip to Patagonia in a new thread I’ll call “Trip to Patagonia, February 2020” so I don’t hijack the original topic of this discussion. Have a great day, everyone!
Heureux qui comme Ulysse, a fait un beau voyage....
LO Lol68 Regular ·
Hi Catherine, I just read your review in one sitting—thank you so much for sharing it. Your photos are gorgeous! !
4Y 4yne Globetrotter ·
Thanks Laurence, I really appreciate your message.
Catherine

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