Déçu de mon voyage au Vietnam
by Ghizmo
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
De toute façon le VN ce n'est qu'un pays où un beau jour, les conséquences de co... lonisateurs ont tenté le VN de faire une sal... e guerre qui a meurtri nombre de familles à jamais. Et en plus ça s'est propagé au cambodge. Quelle bande de c... ambodgiens.
Oh là là, j'ai beaucoup de mal à comprendre ce que ça veut dire. Elaborez, s'il-vous-plait
Oh là là, j'ai beaucoup de mal à comprendre ce que ça veut dire. Elaborez, s'il-vous-plait
Méfiez-vous de la vie, car les ratés ne vous rateront pas!
Elaborez, s'il-vous-plait.
De grace ne leur demandez pas d'aller plus loin dans leur délires🏴☠️ ils vont finir par faire peur à tout le monde😉
Pour bien aimer un pays il faut le manger, le boire et l’entendre chanter. (Michel Déon)
Oh là là !!!!! Je viens de prendre connaissance de plusieurs pages de ce post qui est sans doute loin de se terminer et ce que je découvre (et que j'aime) c'est toute cette passion que déchaîne le VIETNAM !!!!
Ce n'est en tout cas pas un Pays qui laisse indifférent et le forum est là pour que chacun puisse s'exprimer en toute objectivité...
Bonne journée à tous😉
Mavn
Ce n'est en tout cas pas un Pays qui laisse indifférent et le forum est là pour que chacun puisse s'exprimer en toute objectivité...
Bonne journée à tous😉
Mavn
sans révisionnisme historique, pas sur du tout...., vous avez l'esprit joueur ce matin😏!!
Moi, je vais faire un tour ailleurs🤪,
Amusez vous bien😉
Asia
Asia
Pour bien aimer un pays il faut le manger, le boire et l’entendre chanter. (Michel Déon)
Il cherche simplement à soulager votre peine d'être victime d'un vol, en vous faisant remarquer d'être français.
Quelle diplomatie
Ouais, ouais, ouais, on y croit vachement!
Par contre la maman de la doctoresse Dang Thuy Tram a déclaré à l'officier du FBI qui a tué sa fille pendant la guerre qu'elle le considère comme son fils 30 après.
Quel grand esprit de tolérance et d'humanité
T'es sûr ? c'est pas plutôt parce l'officier américain Fred Whitehurst a essayé pendant des années de retrouver la famille de la jeune doctoresse vietcong, aujourd'hui heroïne et martyr nationale, pour lui remettre le journal inachevé qui s'est vendu à plus de 430 000 exemplaires ?
Quelle diplomatie
Ouais, ouais, ouais, on y croit vachement!
Par contre la maman de la doctoresse Dang Thuy Tram a déclaré à l'officier du FBI qui a tué sa fille pendant la guerre qu'elle le considère comme son fils 30 après.
Quel grand esprit de tolérance et d'humanité
T'es sûr ? c'est pas plutôt parce l'officier américain Fred Whitehurst a essayé pendant des années de retrouver la famille de la jeune doctoresse vietcong, aujourd'hui heroïne et martyr nationale, pour lui remettre le journal inachevé qui s'est vendu à plus de 430 000 exemplaires ?
et comme j'ajoutais que mon expérience au Vietnam pendant des années me permettait de "voir" exactement ce que pensaient les Vietnamiens
En effet, votre experience est tellement riche et grande par rapport aux "mauvais" touristes lambda qu'ils ont déteint sur vous: humilité et modestie vous sont inconnues.
En effet, votre experience est tellement riche et grande par rapport aux "mauvais" touristes lambda qu'ils ont déteint sur vous: humilité et modestie vous sont inconnues.
T'es sûr ? c'est pas plutôt parce l'officier américain Fred Whitehurst a essayé pendant des années de retrouver la famille de la jeune doctoresse vietcong, aujourd'hui heroïne et martyr nationale, pour lui remettre le journal inachevé qui s'est vendu à plus de 430 000 exemplaires ?
En quoi, ce que tu dis est différent de ce que j'ai écrit?
Tu me contestes pour le principe?🙂
Si tu veux d'autres info, vas regarder les documents filmés de Fred Whitehurst, lors des retrouvailles avec la famille de Dang Thuy Trâm.
En quoi, ce que tu dis est différent de ce que j'ai écrit?
Tu me contestes pour le principe?🙂
Si tu veux d'autres info, vas regarder les documents filmés de Fred Whitehurst, lors des retrouvailles avec la famille de Dang Thuy Trâm.
http://www.maison-chance.org/
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Mais oui, c'est sympa de discuter avec toi...
J'ai bien vu les documents de Fred Whitehurst et "Dung Dôt" de Dang Nhat Minh et j'ai bien lu "les carnets retrouvés" ( tu vois, une inculte de viet khieu comme moi s'intéresse à ton pays !)
Tu dis que la mère de la jeune chirurgienne a déclaré à l'officier du FBI qui a tué sa fille pendant la guerre qu'elle le considère comme son fils 30 après.
Or Fred Whitehurst n'est pas le meurtrier de la jeune fille. Officier du S.R militaire, il mit la main sur le journal de Dang Thuy Tram. Il allait le jeter au feu quand son subordonné, le sergent vietnamien Nguyen Trung Hieu qui en avait lu les premières pages, l’arrêta pour lui dire : « Ne brûle pas ! Il y a du feu dedans. » L’Américain n’aura l’occasion de le rendre à la famille de Dang Thuy Tram que 35 ans après.
Or Fred Whitehurst n'est pas le meurtrier de la jeune fille
C'est son unité dont il est commandant qui a investi l'hôpital où opère la jeune chirurgienne. Qu'elle soit tuée par un soldat de son unité ou par une balle perdue, cela revient au même.
Pendant une guerre, je n'appelle pas cela un meurtre.
J'ai rapporté les paroles de Fred Whitehurst lors de son interview dans le document filmé à propos du geste de la mère de Trâm qui disait qu'elle veut le considérer comme son fils.
tu vois, une inculte de viet khieu comme moi s'intéresse à ton pays !
Serais-tu capable d'en faire autant que madame Doan Ngoc Trâm?🙂
C'est son unité dont il est commandant qui a investi l'hôpital où opère la jeune chirurgienne. Qu'elle soit tuée par un soldat de son unité ou par une balle perdue, cela revient au même.
Pendant une guerre, je n'appelle pas cela un meurtre.
J'ai rapporté les paroles de Fred Whitehurst lors de son interview dans le document filmé à propos du geste de la mère de Trâm qui disait qu'elle veut le considérer comme son fils.
tu vois, une inculte de viet khieu comme moi s'intéresse à ton pays !
Serais-tu capable d'en faire autant que madame Doan Ngoc Trâm?🙂
http://www.maison-chance.org/
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Pendant une guerre, je n'appelle pas cela un meurtre
Tu as raison, c'est un assassinat légal 🤪
Tu as raison, c'est un assassinat légal 🤪
"Quand l'injustice devient loi, la rébellion devient devoir. " Thomas Jefferson
« Le doute est l’apanage des gens intelligents, les cons n’ont que des certitudes »
(Alain Leblay)
Tu as raison, c'est un assassinat légal
C'est toi qui détiens les codes des lois?
Encore une contestation pour la forme🙂
C'est toi qui détiens les codes des lois?
Encore une contestation pour la forme🙂
http://www.maison-chance.org/
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Bah non voyons, tu sais bien, je parle le vietnamien comme un français ou comme un viet kieu qui ne connait rien aux delicatesses vietnamiennes (Abalone dixit)
Amen🙂
Amen🙂
http://www.maison-chance.org/
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
bonjour Lionel,
si je voulais mieux évaluer la richesse d’accueil d'un des sept ou huit pays d'ASE, j'aimerais avoir une échelle qui ne soit pas seulement financière, je délaisserais le prix usuel du thé servi sur table, du plat traditionnel de midi, d'une tranche de watermelon ou d'une mangue, qui varie un peu mais pas trop d'un de ces pays à l'autre, pour me concentrer sur "LE PRIX QUE JE SERAIS PRET A PAYER" pour chacune des denrées usuelles, y compris le fanta local ou le coca international, ou aussi la simple bouteille d'eau, mais encore le prix d'une nuitée en GH ou hotel, le prix de 10, 20 km en taxi, rickshaw, le prix d'une visite ou d'un tour d'une 1/2 journée ... etc .. en fonction du charme régional (nature), de l'accueil des habitants, du degré d'infrastructures proposées, de la qualité du "service" de la population, etc ....
par exemple : si les prix sont 1.3 à 1.8 fois plus chers en Malaisie qu'en Thaïlande, et bien je suis prêt (moi) à payer 1.5 fois le prix malais, souvent plus cher comparativement au prix thaï, surtout en considérant certains endroits trop touristiques de Thaïlande, où accueil et niveau de service sont de piètre qualité et .. trop chers, parfois très chers (dans ces derniers endroits surfaits, mon plaisir est faible).
comment placer (évaluer) ainsi le Viet-Nam aux cotés de ses voisins ? ... à qui va la palme ? (par ex : quel est le premier pays où je serait tout de suite prêt à revenir trois semaines, même si ses prix doublaient ?... triplaient ........)
j'ai une petite idée de la palme .. on peut aussi procéder ainsi pour 20 grandes régions d'ASE et non plus pour les frontières nationales arbitraires (les frontières sur les cartes : ce que haïssent les VRAIS voyageurs !
à vous de faire VOS prix. et régionalement.
si je voulais mieux évaluer la richesse d’accueil d'un des sept ou huit pays d'ASE, j'aimerais avoir une échelle qui ne soit pas seulement financière, je délaisserais le prix usuel du thé servi sur table, du plat traditionnel de midi, d'une tranche de watermelon ou d'une mangue, qui varie un peu mais pas trop d'un de ces pays à l'autre, pour me concentrer sur "LE PRIX QUE JE SERAIS PRET A PAYER" pour chacune des denrées usuelles, y compris le fanta local ou le coca international, ou aussi la simple bouteille d'eau, mais encore le prix d'une nuitée en GH ou hotel, le prix de 10, 20 km en taxi, rickshaw, le prix d'une visite ou d'un tour d'une 1/2 journée ... etc .. en fonction du charme régional (nature), de l'accueil des habitants, du degré d'infrastructures proposées, de la qualité du "service" de la population, etc ....
par exemple : si les prix sont 1.3 à 1.8 fois plus chers en Malaisie qu'en Thaïlande, et bien je suis prêt (moi) à payer 1.5 fois le prix malais, souvent plus cher comparativement au prix thaï, surtout en considérant certains endroits trop touristiques de Thaïlande, où accueil et niveau de service sont de piètre qualité et .. trop chers, parfois très chers (dans ces derniers endroits surfaits, mon plaisir est faible).
comment placer (évaluer) ainsi le Viet-Nam aux cotés de ses voisins ? ... à qui va la palme ? (par ex : quel est le premier pays où je serait tout de suite prêt à revenir trois semaines, même si ses prix doublaient ?... triplaient ........)
j'ai une petite idée de la palme .. on peut aussi procéder ainsi pour 20 grandes régions d'ASE et non plus pour les frontières nationales arbitraires (les frontières sur les cartes : ce que haïssent les VRAIS voyageurs !
à vous de faire VOS prix. et régionalement.
Les saines valeurs résisteront toujours à la folle marche du monde. Commissaire Laurence.
Salut ,
Mais de quoi on est en train de parler ?le train déraille? y a til un sunami ?
c 'est un concours de connaissances générale ?
au fait quel est le sujet du départ?
revenons aux discussions sérieuses profitables pour tout le monde , merci
VZ
Bonjour Voyagezen,
Non c'est un concours de c... généralisés - on se demande ce que font les modos pour ne pas supprimer tout ça qui n'intéresse personne, ne renseigne personne, attire les nuisibles et assimilés!!!!
Heureusement qu'on a de temps à autre des discussions intéressantes, ciblées, documentées qui donnent envie aux amateurs d'aller voir ce pays -
Comme dit Abalone, Amen... - heureusement, tout passe, tout casse, tout lasse ......
Kimtwo
Bonjour Voyagezen,
Non c'est un concours de c... généralisés - on se demande ce que font les modos pour ne pas supprimer tout ça qui n'intéresse personne, ne renseigne personne, attire les nuisibles et assimilés!!!!
Heureusement qu'on a de temps à autre des discussions intéressantes, ciblées, documentées qui donnent envie aux amateurs d'aller voir ce pays -
Comme dit Abalone, Amen... - heureusement, tout passe, tout casse, tout lasse ......
Kimtwo
Le vent et les turbulences sont l'oeuvre de Dieu, mais la voile et le gouvernail nous appartiennent..
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
Tu as raison, c'est un assassinat légal
C'est toi qui détiens les codes des lois?
Encore une contestation pour la forme🙂
J'insiste en contestant! L'armée est une organisation qui permet à des êtres humains de perpétrer impunément des assassinats; et je ne connais pas les codes des lois. C'est quoi?
C'est toi qui détiens les codes des lois?
Encore une contestation pour la forme🙂
J'insiste en contestant! L'armée est une organisation qui permet à des êtres humains de perpétrer impunément des assassinats; et je ne connais pas les codes des lois. C'est quoi?
"Quand l'injustice devient loi, la rébellion devient devoir. " Thomas Jefferson
« Le doute est l’apanage des gens intelligents, les cons n’ont que des certitudes »
(Alain Leblay)
Ouais ouais toi t'as tout compris... Tu ne crois pas qu'il soit possible par quelqu'un de manipuler quelques lettres pour laisser penser à une ambiguïté, quand justement le but est de te montrer que ton point de vue est tout ce qu'il y a de plus subjectif ?
Ah oui et juste comme ça, j'ai jamais été au VN, mais je ne puis tout simplement pas le détester. Des attaches plus fortes que le mariage avec un gars du pays, que veux-tu. Ce n'est pas pour autant que dès que quelqu'un le critiquera ou critiquera son peuple, je monterai sur mes grands chevaux. De toute façon, tu le fais déjà si bien.
@ je ne sais plus qui plus haut : je ne suis pas en plein délire, c'est juste que je m'exprime bizarrement et que je préfère prendre les chemins détournés pour faire comprendre à quelqu'un qu'il est c...abochard (j'ai dû chercher pour le trouver cui-là :D)
@ je ne sais plus qui plus haut : je ne suis pas en plein délire, c'est juste que je m'exprime bizarrement et que je préfère prendre les chemins détournés pour faire comprendre à quelqu'un qu'il est c...abochard (j'ai dû chercher pour le trouver cui-là :D)
Le bon voyageur se ris de veau frontières.
Flights : http://openflights.org/user/Mathmoica Random pictures : http://streamzoo.com/user/mathmoica/
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Bonsoir,
N'y a t il personne pour vous dire que vous êtes incompréhensible(votre diatribe est quasi illisible), pénible et à côté de la plaque ????
qui peut vous suivre dans ce dédale de paroles nauséabondes?
C'est un vrai problème sur ce forum , toute discussion tourne au règlement de comptes🙁
Un forum de voyages n'est il pas supposé être entre gens à l'esprit ouvert ?
Vous nous montrez là tout l'inverse et c'est affligeant🙁
Allez voir ailleurs où déverser votre venin!
Julesmarie
N'y a t il personne pour vous dire que vous êtes incompréhensible(votre diatribe est quasi illisible), pénible et à côté de la plaque ????
qui peut vous suivre dans ce dédale de paroles nauséabondes?
C'est un vrai problème sur ce forum , toute discussion tourne au règlement de comptes🙁
Un forum de voyages n'est il pas supposé être entre gens à l'esprit ouvert ?
Vous nous montrez là tout l'inverse et c'est affligeant🙁
Allez voir ailleurs où déverser votre venin!
Julesmarie
cette discussion a vraiment degenere..
amis forumistes, tenez vous en a l'essentiel..avez vous ete oui ou non decus par votre sejour au VN et pourquoi?
apres le printemps arabe, il y a le printemps vietnamien sur VF
si vous n'aimez pas mes informations, ne les lisez pas, lisez autre chose, mais respectez les car elles serviront a d'autres
Salut,
C 'est La Raison pour laquelle des oeilleres pour ne pas sortir du sujet initial: " décu du VN "
En fait pour résumer il existe plusieurs catégories de voyageurs :
1- En premier: des personnes sans méchancheté quelconque au départ , qui veulent visiter ce pays , qu 'elles ont entendu ou vu par des reportages et autres médias . je pense qu 'elles avaient la volonté de se mélanger faire une immersion totale avec la population ( ou plutot les populations) d'en faire des amis , faire des affaires (sens noble du terme ) , trouver une compagne , changer l atmostphère découvrir une autre culture , etc....ou meme pour y vivre , parfois vu les différents niveaux de vie passer une retraite relativement aisée.avec un pension modeste .
pour cette catégories , de bonne volonté au départ , il leur manque des connaissances véritables du pays , des régions , des mentalités , des moeurs locaux etc qu un vietnamien meme ne peut prétendre bien connaitre Justement ce forum peut les aider il faut donc bien préparer leur périple. et bien connaitre le pays avec ses défauts et qualités avant de s' y engager.meme avec ces précaution parfois on doit renoncer.
et Un brin d empathie ( difficile) envers l interlocuteur local ! cela pour reussir cette entreprise difficile et hasardeuse avec ses lots de
déboires financieres , sentimentales ....
2- pour ceux qui veulent passer en coup de vent , s il leur arrive de mauvaises surprises c 'est plus acceptable
3- pour les groupes de voyageurs organisés rares ce sont des gens qui se plaignent , on fait tout ou presque pour ler éviter des désagrements
4- il en existe surement d autres motivations pour aller au VN.
ce sont certaines personnes du 1er groupe qui peuvent par leurs expériences malheureses , les plus virulents ( à tort ou à raison ) contre ce pays , comme l action appelle réaction ce n est pas anormal d avoir à faire à des gens qui ne sont pas du meme avis , ceux là ne sont pas si inconditionels que celà peut paraitre , il suffit de lire tous leurs post ! et pas besoin entre les lignes !en apparence , je suis plutot consensuel, mais par correspondances privées , il m arrive de déclarer ma différence , sans etre sur que je possède la vérité! Bref:
une bonne préparation pour éviter les "arnaques " par exples les conseils réitérés sur le choix des taxis des grandes agglomérations , une relative indifférences au départ feront surement un voyage acceptable si non agréable .et surtout dans un pays ou la lutte quotidienne pour la vie est apre n attendez pas toujours a trouver des gens prets à vous satisfaire tout.
Cordialement à tous
VZ
de toute façopn im y aura tjours des contents et mécontents on n 'y peut rien
VZ
Apres plusieurs annees de vie ici, il est vrai que j'ai eu de bonnes et mauvaises experiences...
Mais je voulais seulement fuir la France (pour des raisons personnelles: j'en avais marre de financer des boulets).
Ici au VN, que trouve je?
- la corruption de beaucoup de fonctionnaires, des expropriations, un trafic routier hyper dangereux et anarchique, les difficultes administratives...
- mais je rencontre souvent egalement des gens avec le sourire qui me redonnent le moral pour continuer de vivre ici..
comme quoi je suis decu mais egalement content de vivre au VN
si vous n'aimez pas mes informations, ne les lisez pas, lisez autre chose, mais respectez les car elles serviront a d'autres
Bonjour Venissian,
Je ne rajouterai, ni ne retirerai une virgule à ce que tu as dit : c'est exactement ça... l'analyse est parfaite.....
Bonne journée - le temps s'améliore ??? - tu sèches ?
Amicalement - Kimtwo
Je ne rajouterai, ni ne retirerai une virgule à ce que tu as dit : c'est exactement ça... l'analyse est parfaite.....
Bonne journée - le temps s'améliore ??? - tu sèches ?
Amicalement - Kimtwo
Le vent et les turbulences sont l'oeuvre de Dieu, mais la voile et le gouvernail nous appartiennent..
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
Bonjour,
Vous avez oubliez dans votre tableau, les aigris ...🏴☠️. "Les Tatie Danielle du voyage...." Vous pouvez les faire voyager de part le monde, aucun pays, aucune civilisation n'aura grace à leur yeux parce qu'elles sont incapables de donner ce qu'elles attendent...... Il me semble en reconnaitre quelques unes ici. Bonne journée
Vous avez oubliez dans votre tableau, les aigris ...🏴☠️. "Les Tatie Danielle du voyage...." Vous pouvez les faire voyager de part le monde, aucun pays, aucune civilisation n'aura grace à leur yeux parce qu'elles sont incapables de donner ce qu'elles attendent...... Il me semble en reconnaitre quelques unes ici. Bonne journée
Pour bien aimer un pays il faut le manger, le boire et l’entendre chanter. (Michel Déon)
Pourquoi, il a pris l'eau l'ami?😉
Pour bien aimer un pays il faut le manger, le boire et l’entendre chanter. (Michel Déon)
Il a pas pris l'eau!!! il a connu une période de pluie, mais ce doit être fini...😉d'ailleurs au Vietnam, tout est soudain, violent, mais heureusement rien ne dure !!!!😉
Kmtwo
Kmtwo
Le vent et les turbulences sont l'oeuvre de Dieu, mais la voile et le gouvernail nous appartiennent..
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
Bonjour,
On est bien d'accord - il n'y a qu'une solution : le canapé devant la chaine Voyage, la 5, Arte et Planète....car ce sont des gens instransportables et ingérables en société. -
Bonne journée - Kimtwo
On est bien d'accord - il n'y a qu'une solution : le canapé devant la chaine Voyage, la 5, Arte et Planète....car ce sont des gens instransportables et ingérables en société. -
Bonne journée - Kimtwo
Le vent et les turbulences sont l'oeuvre de Dieu, mais la voile et le gouvernail nous appartiennent..
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
le canapé devant la chaine Voyage, la 5, Arte et Planète....
Même pas sur que çà leur convienne🏴☠️
Venissan a troqué la moto contre la barque...j'espère que tout va bien pour lui😏
Venissan a troqué la moto contre la barque...j'espère que tout va bien pour lui😏
Pour bien aimer un pays il faut le manger, le boire et l’entendre chanter. (Michel Déon)
Bonne journée - le temps s'améliore ??? - tu sèches ?
il pleut encore et toujours.. ca devient penible..en plus l'eau de pluie est mouillee et froide. par ailleurs le linge ne seche pas..quelle guigne. je le repete, en cette saison, la pluie c'est inhabituel.. mon voisin me dit qu'on en a pour 3 jours encore
il pleut encore et toujours.. ca devient penible..en plus l'eau de pluie est mouillee et froide. par ailleurs le linge ne seche pas..quelle guigne. je le repete, en cette saison, la pluie c'est inhabituel.. mon voisin me dit qu'on en a pour 3 jours encore
si vous n'aimez pas mes informations, ne les lisez pas, lisez autre chose, mais respectez les car elles serviront a d'autres
en plus l'eau de pluie est mouillee çà, c'est sur....😏😏😏
Bonjour,
Vous allez bien malgrès le mauvais temps?
Ici en France, nous avons très froid et le linge ne sèche pas non plus.
Je vous souhaite meilleurs temps😉, trois jours çà passe vite.
Bonjour,
Vous allez bien malgrès le mauvais temps?
Ici en France, nous avons très froid et le linge ne sèche pas non plus.
Je vous souhaite meilleurs temps😉, trois jours çà passe vite.
Pour bien aimer un pays il faut le manger, le boire et l’entendre chanter. (Michel Déon)
Re,
Notre ami Venissian a dû vouloir dire "mouillante" mais comme il parle plein de langues.... il a dû faire comme nous tous, des amalgames!!😉
Ceci étant, les trois jours, espérons, car si c'est comme le mistral ou la tramontaine, on nous promet toujours ça a minima, et dans la réalité.... ben ça dure autant que ça doit durer!!!!!!
Bon week-end - Kimtwo
Notre ami Venissian a dû vouloir dire "mouillante" mais comme il parle plein de langues.... il a dû faire comme nous tous, des amalgames!!😉
Ceci étant, les trois jours, espérons, car si c'est comme le mistral ou la tramontaine, on nous promet toujours ça a minima, et dans la réalité.... ben ça dure autant que ça doit durer!!!!!!
Bon week-end - Kimtwo
Le vent et les turbulences sont l'oeuvre de Dieu, mais la voile et le gouvernail nous appartiennent..
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
bonjour j ai eu la meme reflexion que toi , j ai passe l annee derniere 26 J AU vietnam , comme tu dis tres beau paysage mais pas de sourire , arnaque si on est pas vigilant , au marche aucun prix de marquer a la tete du client , par contre a sappa la j ai trouve de sourires et des gens super gentils , par conte je ne retournerai pas dans ce pays , je vis en thailande c est autre chose amitiee
Salut,
Non seulement je ne peux qu 'accepter vos appréciations , fruit de 26 jours de séjour au VN. ( c'est un peu court qd meme) , mais passons .
vous avez écrit " pas de sourire " alors que d autres parlent de rires et sourires meme derriere votre dos . cela doit etre genant pour certains qu on rigole "peut etre de vous " , de moqueries peut etre?
heureusement il y a SAPA pour atténuer tout celà.
Pour moi vnien , habitant en France depuis 1966 , quand je reste à Paris ou dans les grandes villes ou agglomérations , çà va , mais dès que je me ballade dans les petits villages , j ai une impression bizarre d etre un extraterrestre , on ne me rie pas au nez , mais des regards pas toujours accueillants . je ne trouve pas celà antipathique , c 'est surement le manque de contact avec des étrangers qui crée une certaine méfiance , ou réserve. A ce propos , meme un français étranger au village peut ressentir la meme chose.
pour le prix des marchandises , les prix étant libres au VN , meme pour les locaux , on doit marchander , et je comprend que vous , qui etes habitués à des prix annoncés et parfois fixés par la loi , vous n etes pas habitués. Encore que les dépassements d honoraires indécents ( gyneco entre autres et chirurgiens ( sous de table) de bcp de médecins formés et payés par vous , nous , les contribuables sont des arnaques acceptés ( parfois on n a pas le choix) le serrurier qui vous cassent avec une pince éteau votre serrure pour remplacer contre une serrure neuve et qui tardent à arriver pour obtenir des tarifs de nuit , des plombiers qui veulent changer toute la robinetterie pour une fuite( chez une vieille mémé) q un remplacement de joint ou de la filasse suffit d'arreter cette fuite , on peut citer milles exmples d ' autres métiers ou des gens et des attitudes peu honnetes existent en France la télé en parlent toutes les semaines . Ceci dit cela n 'excuse en rien des gens peu scrupuleux au VN qui exercent leur "arts" pas seulement contre les étrangers mais meme entre nous.et qui déservent le tourisme du pays.Ce qui me réjouis c 'est de voir des magasins ou les prix sont affichés ( ce qui ne veut pas nécessairement prix justes , mais l avantage pour les acheteurs non habitués avec les marchandages de s 'en passer!
Vous avez trouvé un pays d acceuil acceptable , la Thailande et vous y etes content c 'est l essentiel !
Mais restez , meme dans ce pays , comme vous avez insisté comme au VN , VIGILANT , quand meme !😏😏
si non ou aller?🏴☠️
souriez aux gens naturellement et bcp d empathie envers les locaux ( de n importe quel pays d accueil) , vous aurez surement la réponse identique , ( pas sur que çà vient du coeur , parfois et souvent les moeurs et coutumes de certains pays ) mais bref c 'est plus agréable meme un signe de gentillesse de façade)
bon voyage
+ 1 😉
Le vent et les turbulences sont l'oeuvre de Dieu, mais la voile et le gouvernail nous appartiennent..
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
Comme Kimtow, je partage totalement votre point de vue ...excepté :
quand je reste à Paris ou dans les grandes villes ou agglomérations
Nousallons souvent à Paris, venant d'un village de province, faire du tourisme.
Nous aimons cette ville, mais là, nous ne trouvons pas l'accueil que vous aimeriez avoir en province....et j'aimerai pouvoir dire, comme vous le faite:
, c 'est surement le manque de contact avec des étrangers qui crée une certaine méfiance.
Seulement, je ne crois pas que se soit le manque de contact qui engendre ces attitudes🙂
Peut être cela vient il de ce que nous sommes et que nous devrions ne pas attendre systhématiquement un accueil à bras ouverts.
Bien amicalement
Bien amicalement
Pour bien aimer un pays il faut le manger, le boire et l’entendre chanter. (Michel Déon)
Peut être cela vient il de ce que nous sommes et que nous devrions ne pas attendre systhématiquement un accueil à bras ouverts.
C'est ce que je pense et je le dis très souvent sur ce forum.
Je ne nie pas les difficultés rencontrées par les uns et les autres en visite au VietNam.
En réponse, je souligne simplement leur façon de penser (préjugés), leur manière de se comporter (toujours comme s'ils portaient des dollars sur patte, selon leur propre expression), leur tendance à généraliser à outrance et leur propension à vouloir comparer un pays et un autre comme si les vietnamiens doivent se comporter de la même façon que leur voisin.
La plupart des vietnamiens ont autre chat à fouetter que de s'occuper des touristes qui passent. Seuls ceux qui vivent aux dépens des touristes, montrent un certain intérêt plus ou moins douteux envers eux.
Si les touristes ont un peu de discernement, ils font la différence entre les catégories de gens et c'est à eux de faire un effort pour aller vers les vietnamiens qui ne vivent pas du tourisme.
Les vietnamiens qui ont vécu pendant 100 ans avec des français ont des comportements assez stéréotypés, copiés des français: on ne sourit pas aux inconnus🙂
C'est ce que je pense et je le dis très souvent sur ce forum.
Je ne nie pas les difficultés rencontrées par les uns et les autres en visite au VietNam.
En réponse, je souligne simplement leur façon de penser (préjugés), leur manière de se comporter (toujours comme s'ils portaient des dollars sur patte, selon leur propre expression), leur tendance à généraliser à outrance et leur propension à vouloir comparer un pays et un autre comme si les vietnamiens doivent se comporter de la même façon que leur voisin.
La plupart des vietnamiens ont autre chat à fouetter que de s'occuper des touristes qui passent. Seuls ceux qui vivent aux dépens des touristes, montrent un certain intérêt plus ou moins douteux envers eux.
Si les touristes ont un peu de discernement, ils font la différence entre les catégories de gens et c'est à eux de faire un effort pour aller vers les vietnamiens qui ne vivent pas du tourisme.
Les vietnamiens qui ont vécu pendant 100 ans avec des français ont des comportements assez stéréotypés, copiés des français: on ne sourit pas aux inconnus🙂
http://www.maison-chance.org/
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
bj je voyage beaucoup la je reviens de un mois de birmanie la j ai trouve un peuple souriant pauvre mais toujours gentil , malgre la main prise des militaires et de la police , le peuple aime les etrangers et on le ressens bien et j y retournerai , au vietnan je n ai pas ressentie cela et je n y retournerai pas , la je pars faire l indonesie je laisserai sur le site mes appreciations , la thailande ou je vis depuis 4 ans est un pays ou il est bon de vivre facile a vivre tous est marque pour les prix on trouve presque tous en plus je commence parler un peu thai car ou je vis dans les rizieres en issan pas d anglais donc on est obliger de ce mettre a la langue , je ne retournerai plus en france j ai aime la france mais j ai une qualitee de vie ici en thailande que je ne retrouverai pas en france , tes remarques je les connais pour la france et je les comprends , c est pour cela que je suis partis mais j ai repondu a un compte rendu qui m a parru bien fait et j ai ete tous a fait d accord avec les remarques dites au sujet du vietnam , j ai fait presque tous les pays d asie et vraiment je n ai pas apprecie le vietnam les gens ne sont pas sympa bon voyage mais les paysages sont super beau , super dangereux les routes , essaye de traverser une route au vietnam en ville tu risques ta vie a chaque moment a bientot sur le site
+ 1😉
Le vent et les turbulences sont l'oeuvre de Dieu, mais la voile et le gouvernail nous appartiennent..
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
Bonjour mon cher Papoisse,
Vous me réjouissez mon dimanche ...
alors, voyons voir la nièce de 6 ans : "fesiez penser" vous lui laissez le clavier maintenant ??? alors surveillez son orthographe...
Bonne journée - Kimtwo
Vous me réjouissez mon dimanche ...
alors, voyons voir la nièce de 6 ans : "fesiez penser" vous lui laissez le clavier maintenant ??? alors surveillez son orthographe...
Bonne journée - Kimtwo
Le vent et les turbulences sont l'oeuvre de Dieu, mais la voile et le gouvernail nous appartiennent..
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
bonjour tarteauxcitr, je suis un peu de l'avis de Kimtvoo, tu ne m'as pas convaincue ; cela fait quatre ans que nous allons au vietnam passer l'hiver et que nous avons vu ce pays du nord au sud, c'est vrai que tous les vietnamiens ne sont pas identiques mais çe serait dommage s'il n'y avait qu'un type de vietnamiens, pour eux d'abord et pour nous; nous avons lié des amitiés avec des vietnamiens en allant dans les marchés, en mangeant dans la rue, en buvant le café "da" avec eux dans la rue; est-ce que tu crois qu'en france tout les français sont aimables ? il y a de tout, des gracieux, des fermés ect;;;; et surtout il faut se mettre à leur portée, ils n'ont pas nos salaires . nous nous n'avons eu aucun problème et nous partons le 5 mars pour un mois et demi à parcourir ce beau pays c'est peu mais pour des raisons familiales nous n'avons pu partir le 25 janvier comme prévu voyage qui devait durer trois mois, mais nous sommes très heureux de pouvoir y aller un mois et demi. quant au français d'origine vietnamienne ne s'appellerait-il pas quy ? rencontré peut être à Dalat. Ne met pas tout les vietnamiens dans le même pot ce serait dommage, et puis il ne faut pas se laisser faire ils adorent la discussion même si tu ne parles ni le vietnamien ni l'anglais, mais avec des gestes on se comprend très bien
des comportements assez stéréotypés, copiés des français: on ne sourit pas aux inconnus
Pas tous cher Abalone, je sais sourire et j'en connais d'autres qui savent aussi😏😏😏😉😉😄😄🙂🙂 la preuve, ces sourires sont pour vous tous.
Amitiés
Pas tous cher Abalone, je sais sourire et j'en connais d'autres qui savent aussi😏😏😏😉😉😄😄🙂🙂 la preuve, ces sourires sont pour vous tous.
Amitiés
Pour bien aimer un pays il faut le manger, le boire et l’entendre chanter. (Michel Déon)
des comportements assez stéréotypés, copiés des français: on ne sourit pas aux inconnus
Pas tous cher Abalone, je sais sourire et j'en connais d'autres qui savent aussi la preuve, ces sourires sont pour vous tous.
Amitiés
Les sourires spontanés sont interprétés comme "gaga"🙂
Pas tous cher Abalone, je sais sourire et j'en connais d'autres qui savent aussi la preuve, ces sourires sont pour vous tous.
Amitiés
Les sourires spontanés sont interprétés comme "gaga"🙂
http://www.maison-chance.org/
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Et bien j'assume totalement d'être GAGA😉
Pour bien aimer un pays il faut le manger, le boire et l’entendre chanter. (Michel Déon)
D'autant que ce n'est qu'une interprétation tout à fait personnelle..😉
Kimtwo
Kimtwo
Le vent et les turbulences sont l'oeuvre de Dieu, mais la voile et le gouvernail nous appartiennent..
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
Bof, pas grave, je préfère çà au blaireau😉
Pour bien aimer un pays il faut le manger, le boire et l’entendre chanter. (Michel Déon)
Bonjour,
Quand je cite "paris ....etc" c 'est mon point de vue d' un étranger , vivant dans une agglomération cosmopolite , on (cad nous , étrangers ) on se sent un peu chez soi ( ou chez nous )
Pour les grandes métropoles , il est vrai que plus la ville est grande , plus les liens des gens se distancent ,
c 'est le cas meme des grands immeubles collectifs des cités dortoirs , on connait à peine le voisin du meme palier . Heureusement des initiatives nouvelles telles les fetes des voisins tendent à rompre cet isolement.
Cependant je crois fermement qu en France ou ailleurs si nous faisons le premier pas par un sourire souvent on reçoit ( pas tjours certes ) un accueil aimable .
et comme vous avez noté lors de vos voyages à Paris , je comprends que l on peut sentir étrangers dans son propre pays si l on ne tient pas compte des différences régionales , culturelles, historiques etc ... du lieu d accueil (pour bien s'y adapter ) .
Séjourner dans un pays étrangers ( séjour et pas voyage en coup de vent ) , c 'est sur qu'on doit tenir comptent des avis - ou + de ceux qui y vivent ( avec discernement car on est tous subjectifs ) , bien se documenter sur le pays mais le mieux c 'est de tenter moi meme l expérience.Si l on n est pas favorable on n 'y revient pas , quoi d' anormal?
Mais prétendre ( comme certains, ce n 'est pas votre cas )bien connaitre un pays à travers un voyage , , ou à travers les vécus d autres , c est un peu léger.
VZ
Quand je cite "paris ....etc" c 'est mon point de vue d' un étranger , vivant dans une agglomération cosmopolite , on (cad nous , étrangers ) on se sent un peu chez soi ( ou chez nous )
Nous en sommes boien heureux pour vous😄
Cependant je crois fermement qu en France ou ailleurs si nous faisons le premier pas par un sourire souvent on reçoit ( pas tjours certes ) un accueil aimable . On est bien d'accord😏
Mais prétendre ( comme certains, ce n 'est pas votre cas )bien connaitre un pays à travers un voyage , , ou à travers les vécus d autres , c est un peu léger. Toujours d'accord😉
Ma nouvelle signature: Asia GAGA😏😏😏
Amitiés à tous🙂
Cependant je crois fermement qu en France ou ailleurs si nous faisons le premier pas par un sourire souvent on reçoit ( pas tjours certes ) un accueil aimable . On est bien d'accord😏
Mais prétendre ( comme certains, ce n 'est pas votre cas )bien connaitre un pays à travers un voyage , , ou à travers les vécus d autres , c est un peu léger. Toujours d'accord😉
Ma nouvelle signature: Asia GAGA😏😏😏
Amitiés à tous🙂
Pour bien aimer un pays il faut le manger, le boire et l’entendre chanter. (Michel Déon)
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On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
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Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
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Hi,
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Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Hi there,
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Thanks in advance for your tips!
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi everyone,
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Time to hit the road again!
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Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
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Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
Hi everyone, I’m looking to do a 15-day Muay Thai training course. Any great places to recommend? Thanks
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi,
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!
Hello,
We’re a couple looking for a driver for 10 days to explore Northern Vietnam in April.
Best regards,
Hi there,
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.