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Tourisme sexuel au féminin
by Naps
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Hello,
... d'ailleurs sur ce point, 95% des affaires de pédophilies se déroulent dans les familles et non dans les presbytères ou les salles de perm.
C'est exact. Je ne connais pas le pourcentage exact, mais dans les affaires criminelles, la grande majorité des coupables dans les actes de pédophilie, d'enlèvement et de meurtres d'enfants sont des membres de la famille ou de l'entourage de la victime.
... d'ailleurs sur ce point, 95% des affaires de pédophilies se déroulent dans les familles et non dans les presbytères ou les salles de perm.
C'est exact. Je ne connais pas le pourcentage exact, mais dans les affaires criminelles, la grande majorité des coupables dans les actes de pédophilie, d'enlèvement et de meurtres d'enfants sont des membres de la famille ou de l'entourage de la victime.
Un pòble non pòu viure, escurcit encadenat, en lo pantais d'un autre... (Lo Mago d'en Casteu).
Oui, mais n'oublie pas que le tourisme sexuel pédophile concerne tout antant les hétéros. Disons qu'il y a deux catégories de tourisme sexuel: l'adulte (homo et hétéro) et pédophile (homo et hétéro).
... et c'est toute la difficulté! La pédophilie est répréhensible à partir de quel âge? Plus d'une fois à l'étranger j'ai vu des hommes de 30/40ans se promener sans équivoque avec des jeunes filles ou garçons qui devaient avoir tout au plus 13/14ans! D'autre part, s'il existe une demande des étrangers il y a aussi une offre très organisée et admise sur place. Il faudrait aussi que les systèmes claniques , culturels et hypocrites de certains pays soient revus de fond en comble dans ce domaine. L'argument de la "pauvreté" est souvent un paravent facile car après tout ce ne sont pas tous les pays "pauvres" qui offrent leurs enfants au plaisir des voyageurs en mal de câlins.
... et c'est toute la difficulté! La pédophilie est répréhensible à partir de quel âge? Plus d'une fois à l'étranger j'ai vu des hommes de 30/40ans se promener sans équivoque avec des jeunes filles ou garçons qui devaient avoir tout au plus 13/14ans! D'autre part, s'il existe une demande des étrangers il y a aussi une offre très organisée et admise sur place. Il faudrait aussi que les systèmes claniques , culturels et hypocrites de certains pays soient revus de fond en comble dans ce domaine. L'argument de la "pauvreté" est souvent un paravent facile car après tout ce ne sont pas tous les pays "pauvres" qui offrent leurs enfants au plaisir des voyageurs en mal de câlins.
apres, la ou je doutes moins et ou je suis un peu plus a l'aise , c'est l'esprit de calcul dont vous affublait les pedo !
pour 95% d'entre eux ( le chiffre viens de nulle part c'est une image ) cette deviance est une honte ! tres tres peu l'accepte ! la grande majorité la refute, mais ne peuvent resister a leurs envies ! c'est souvent une pulsion, au dela de tout calcul !
Là je n'ai aucune idée concernant la proportion de ceux qui en ont honte et de ceux qui l'acceptent. Mais en tout cas, l'esprit de manipulation existe bien chez certains pédophiles, c'est un trait de caractère typique que l'on retrouve chez les pervers narcissiques entre autre. Certes ces derniers ne sont pas tous forcément pédophiles, mais ça existe.
pour 95% d'entre eux ( le chiffre viens de nulle part c'est une image ) cette deviance est une honte ! tres tres peu l'accepte ! la grande majorité la refute, mais ne peuvent resister a leurs envies ! c'est souvent une pulsion, au dela de tout calcul !
Là je n'ai aucune idée concernant la proportion de ceux qui en ont honte et de ceux qui l'acceptent. Mais en tout cas, l'esprit de manipulation existe bien chez certains pédophiles, c'est un trait de caractère typique que l'on retrouve chez les pervers narcissiques entre autre. Certes ces derniers ne sont pas tous forcément pédophiles, mais ça existe.
Un pòble non pòu viure, escurcit encadenat, en lo pantais d'un autre... (Lo Mago d'en Casteu).
... et c'est toute la difficulté! La pédophilie est répréhensible à partir de quel âge? Plus d'une fois à l'étranger j'ai vu des hommes de 30/40ans se promener sans équivoque avec des jeunes filles ou garçons qui devaient avoir tout au plus 13/14ans!
Oui, malheureusement c'est assez fréquent. J'en ai souvent entendu parler, notamment en Thaïlande. En Occident, on a établit la majorité sexuelle à 16 ans je crois, mais ça reste quand même très jeune je trouve.
D'autre part, s'il existe une demande des étrangers il y a aussi une offre très organisée et admise sur place. Il faudrait aussi que les systèmes claniques , culturels et hypocrites de certains pays soient revus de fond en comble dans ce domaine. L'argument de la "pauvreté" est souvent un paravent facile car après tout ce ne sont pas tous les pays "pauvres" qui offrent leurs enfants au plaisir des voyageurs en mal de câlins.
En fait c'est surtout une histoire de mafias locales qui vivent de ce genre de commerce. Mais il me semble que des pays comme la Thaïlande, qui sont les destinations favorites de ces pervers, ont pris ces dernières années des mesures pour lutter contre ce fléau, je pense notamment à la mobilisation qu'avait sucité la recherche du pervers pédophile canadien qui avait fui en Thaïlande avant de se faire arrêter par la police thaï.
Oui, malheureusement c'est assez fréquent. J'en ai souvent entendu parler, notamment en Thaïlande. En Occident, on a établit la majorité sexuelle à 16 ans je crois, mais ça reste quand même très jeune je trouve.
D'autre part, s'il existe une demande des étrangers il y a aussi une offre très organisée et admise sur place. Il faudrait aussi que les systèmes claniques , culturels et hypocrites de certains pays soient revus de fond en comble dans ce domaine. L'argument de la "pauvreté" est souvent un paravent facile car après tout ce ne sont pas tous les pays "pauvres" qui offrent leurs enfants au plaisir des voyageurs en mal de câlins.
En fait c'est surtout une histoire de mafias locales qui vivent de ce genre de commerce. Mais il me semble que des pays comme la Thaïlande, qui sont les destinations favorites de ces pervers, ont pris ces dernières années des mesures pour lutter contre ce fléau, je pense notamment à la mobilisation qu'avait sucité la recherche du pervers pédophile canadien qui avait fui en Thaïlande avant de se faire arrêter par la police thaï.
Un pòble non pòu viure, escurcit encadenat, en lo pantais d'un autre... (Lo Mago d'en Casteu).
je pense notamment à la mobilisation qu'avait sucité la recherche du pervers pédophile canadien qui avait fui en Thaïlande avant de se faire arrêter par la police thaï.
.. oui tu fais bien de rappeler ce fait. Ce canadien accusé des pires méfaits et qui les a reconnu... qui était recherché par la planète entière a finalement écopé d'une peine de ... 3 ans de prison en Thaïlande! c'est à dire une durée sous les barreaux 3 à 4 fois moindre qu'en Occident pour les mêmes faits. Ce qui en dit long sur le rapport culturel ambigu qu'entretiennent certaines sociétés avec cette déviance.
.. oui tu fais bien de rappeler ce fait. Ce canadien accusé des pires méfaits et qui les a reconnu... qui était recherché par la planète entière a finalement écopé d'une peine de ... 3 ans de prison en Thaïlande! c'est à dire une durée sous les barreaux 3 à 4 fois moindre qu'en Occident pour les mêmes faits. Ce qui en dit long sur le rapport culturel ambigu qu'entretiennent certaines sociétés avec cette déviance.
.. oui tu fais bien de rappeler ce fait. Ce canadien accusé des pires méfaits et qui les a reconnu... qui était recherché par la planète entière a finalement écopé d'une peine de ... 3 ans de prison!
c'est à dire une durée sous les barreaux 3 à 4 fois moindre qu'en Occident pour les mêmes faits. Ce qui en dit long sur le rapport culturel ambigu qu'entretiennent certaines sociétés avec cette déviance.
Ah bon, d'accord... 🤪
Je n'avais pas suivi l'affaire jusqu'au boût, pensant qu'il resterait derrière les barreaux pendant de longues décennies. Mais trois ans seulement... en effet, il y a un vrai problème socio-juridique quelque part, dans ces pays-là.
Ah bon, d'accord... 🤪
Je n'avais pas suivi l'affaire jusqu'au boût, pensant qu'il resterait derrière les barreaux pendant de longues décennies. Mais trois ans seulement... en effet, il y a un vrai problème socio-juridique quelque part, dans ces pays-là.
Un pòble non pòu viure, escurcit encadenat, en lo pantais d'un autre... (Lo Mago d'en Casteu).
"Homosexualitus, estus commus planchavoilus !" (L'homosexualité, c'est un peu comme la planche à voile : y suffit d's'y mettre...)
Je précise que je ne suis pas homo, mais je les respecte, tant qu'ils me respectent ! Chacun fait ce qu'il veut, suivant ses "préférences"; et il ne faut pas faire d'amalgame homosexualité avec les "injustices" citées plus hauts (tourisme sexuel, y compris envers des mineurs), il y a de tout sur terre, chez les hétéros, comme les homo, des bons et des moins bons...
Moi je suis homo-sapiens (enfin il parait 😄)
Je précise que je ne suis pas homo, mais je les respecte, tant qu'ils me respectent ! Chacun fait ce qu'il veut, suivant ses "préférences"; et il ne faut pas faire d'amalgame homosexualité avec les "injustices" citées plus hauts (tourisme sexuel, y compris envers des mineurs), il y a de tout sur terre, chez les hétéros, comme les homo, des bons et des moins bons...
Moi je suis homo-sapiens (enfin il parait 😄)
«Si tu ne trouves pas d'ami sage, prêt à cheminer avec toi, résolu, constant, marche seul, comme un roi après une conquête ou un éléphant dans la forêt.» Bouddha
Tu interprêtes mal mes messages, ou alors c'est moi qui m'exprime mal;
Je n'ai rien du tout contre les homos, les hétéros, les rigolos et j'en passe.
Il y en a de très biens et d'autres moins comme partout
Je dis simplement que ce n'est pas sur ces critères que je juge les gens, sur leurs préférences y compris dans ce domaine, mais sur leur façon d'être et leurs actes respectueux ou pas dans la vie, c'est tout
«Si tu ne trouves pas d'ami sage, prêt à cheminer avec toi, résolu, constant, marche seul, comme un roi après une conquête ou un éléphant dans la forêt.» Bouddha
Elles ont quel âge, les lois françaises relatives à la pédophilie ?
Hello,
Il n'y a pas que les lois. Les différences culturelles ne s'arrêtent pas aux costumes et aux monuments. Il ne t'a pas échappé que la sexualité et notamment l'âge des premières relations n'est pas abordé de la même façon partout sur notre planète.

Hello,
Il n'y a pas que les lois. Les différences culturelles ne s'arrêtent pas aux costumes et aux monuments. Il ne t'a pas échappé que la sexualité et notamment l'âge des premières relations n'est pas abordé de la même façon partout sur notre planète.
Et alors ? Où veux-tu en venir ?
Re,
Il n'y a pas que les lois.
Certes, mais les lois s'inscrivent dans un contexte, une société. En France, celles qui visent à protéger les mineurs sont récentes, une quinzaine d'années, je crois. Et cela ne fait pas très longtemps que les enfants ne sont plus considérés comme de simples "adultes en miniature".
Je trouvais donc que c'était un peu facile, un peu rapide, d'écrire :
c'est à dire une durée sous les barreaux 3 à 4 fois moindre qu'en Occident pour les mêmes faits. Ce qui en dit long sur le rapport culturel ambigu qu'entretiennent certaines sociétés avec cette déviance.
Étant entendu que "nous", en "Occident" avons des moeurs qui ne sont pas tordues, protégeons nos enfants et qu'il en été de tout temps ainsi, sans jamais la moindre ambiguité.
Il ne t'a pas échappé que la sexualité et notamment l'âge des premières relations n'est pas abordé de la même façon partout sur notre planète.
Et ? Où veux-tu en venir, cette fois ?
- -- Ajout : Lepiaf, tu as été plus rapide que moi...😏
Il n'y a pas que les lois.
Certes, mais les lois s'inscrivent dans un contexte, une société. En France, celles qui visent à protéger les mineurs sont récentes, une quinzaine d'années, je crois. Et cela ne fait pas très longtemps que les enfants ne sont plus considérés comme de simples "adultes en miniature".
Je trouvais donc que c'était un peu facile, un peu rapide, d'écrire :
c'est à dire une durée sous les barreaux 3 à 4 fois moindre qu'en Occident pour les mêmes faits. Ce qui en dit long sur le rapport culturel ambigu qu'entretiennent certaines sociétés avec cette déviance.
Étant entendu que "nous", en "Occident" avons des moeurs qui ne sont pas tordues, protégeons nos enfants et qu'il en été de tout temps ainsi, sans jamais la moindre ambiguité.
Il ne t'a pas échappé que la sexualité et notamment l'âge des premières relations n'est pas abordé de la même façon partout sur notre planète.
Et ? Où veux-tu en venir, cette fois ?
- -- Ajout : Lepiaf, tu as été plus rapide que moi...😏
Et alors ? Où veux-tu en venir ?
.. et bin aux arabes bien sûr!!! il faut bien que Williama soit dans son rôle de méchant😄😄😄
Sérieusement, sur cette affaire de pédophilie en voyage consentante ou pas, nous occidentaux, nous apportons à la fois le problème et trouvons la solution chez les autres ... C'est ignorer aussi la réalité sur le terrain, à moins de vouloir se complaire là aussi dans la position de l'autruche😏
.. et bin aux arabes bien sûr!!! il faut bien que Williama soit dans son rôle de méchant😄😄😄
Sérieusement, sur cette affaire de pédophilie en voyage consentante ou pas, nous occidentaux, nous apportons à la fois le problème et trouvons la solution chez les autres ... C'est ignorer aussi la réalité sur le terrain, à moins de vouloir se complaire là aussi dans la position de l'autruche😏
sur cette affaire de pédophilie en voyage consentante ou pas
Mais de quoi parles-tu ? Le sujet était d'abord le tourisme sexuel féminin avant que tu ne l'envoies dans une ornière boueuse et puante comme d'habitude. La "pédophilie en voyage consentante ou pas", c'est ton sujet pas celui des autres intervenants.
Mais de quoi parles-tu ? Le sujet était d'abord le tourisme sexuel féminin avant que tu ne l'envoies dans une ornière boueuse et puante comme d'habitude. La "pédophilie en voyage consentante ou pas", c'est ton sujet pas celui des autres intervenants.
une ornière boueuse et puante
... c'est ta vision un tantinet coinçé🤪
Sur les femmes j'ai dit à plusieurs reprises ce que j'en pensais et j'étais sans doute l'un des moins "moraliste" ici. Maintenant il est naturel d'aborder aussi certains aspects plus en profondeur, si j'oz toujours m'exprimer rainsi😏 Que tu le veuilles ou non le tourisme sexuel qu'il soit hétéro ou homo, hommes ou femmes a un dénominateur commun qui est la recherche de l'éternelle jeunesse... c'est à dire à travers la recherche de plus jeune!
... c'est ta vision un tantinet coinçé🤪
Sur les femmes j'ai dit à plusieurs reprises ce que j'en pensais et j'étais sans doute l'un des moins "moraliste" ici. Maintenant il est naturel d'aborder aussi certains aspects plus en profondeur, si j'oz toujours m'exprimer rainsi😏 Que tu le veuilles ou non le tourisme sexuel qu'il soit hétéro ou homo, hommes ou femmes a un dénominateur commun qui est la recherche de l'éternelle jeunesse... c'est à dire à travers la recherche de plus jeune!
Et je le répète une fois de plus, tu confonds dans le mot jeunesse les jeunes adultes et les enfants, ce qui revient à confondre tourisme sexuel et pédophilie, et je dénonce cette confusion que tu entretiens à longueur de post.
Moi coincé ? Moins que toi avec les homos en tous cas.
et aussi que le sujet est plus complexe qu'il n'y parait.
Tu ne t'y retrouves pas car ta vision sur ces questions est simpliste. Il y a pour toi définitivement les bons d'un côté et les méchants de l'autre. Les gentils homos persécutés face aux homophobes, les pervers contre les bons pères de famille, les abstinents en voyage et les dépravés etc...
Tu ne t'y retrouves pas car ta vision sur ces questions est simpliste. Il y a pour toi définitivement les bons d'un côté et les méchants de l'autre. Les gentils homos persécutés face aux homophobes, les pervers contre les bons pères de famille, les abstinents en voyage et les dépravés etc...
Tu ne t'y retrouves pas car ta vision sur ces questions est simpliste. Il y a pour toi définitivement les bons d'un côté et les méchants de l'autre. Les gentils homos persécutés face aux homophobes, les pervers contre les bons pères de famille, les abstinents en voyage et les dépravés etc...
Quand tu ne trouves rien à redire, tu inventes. 🤪
Tout chez toi est basé sur des étiquettes : les "uns", les "autres"... Pire, les "nôtres", les "leurs". Tu veux - cela ta rassure ?... - omettre que tout est complexe, que les comportements et attitudes changent, que certains sont des "tiens" et des "autres", simultanément, ou successivement. L'homosexualité comme élixir de jeunesse, voilà bien une idée bien romantique et baroque....
Michel
Quand tu ne trouves rien à redire, tu inventes. 🤪
Tout chez toi est basé sur des étiquettes : les "uns", les "autres"... Pire, les "nôtres", les "leurs". Tu veux - cela ta rassure ?... - omettre que tout est complexe, que les comportements et attitudes changent, que certains sont des "tiens" et des "autres", simultanément, ou successivement. L'homosexualité comme élixir de jeunesse, voilà bien une idée bien romantique et baroque....
Michel
Et je le répète une fois de plus, tu confonds dans le mot jeunesse les jeunes adultes et les enfants, ce qui revient à confondre tourisme sexuel et pédophilie, et je dénonce cette confusion que tu entretiens à longueur de post.
Ces vacanciers seraient alors très nombreux à tomber sous le coup de la loi ici en Europe...
Ces vacanciers seraient alors très nombreux à tomber sous le coup de la loi ici en Europe...
Tu ne t'y retrouves pas car ta vision sur ces questions est simpliste. Il y a pour toi définitivement les bons d'un côté et les méchants de l'autre. Les gentils homos persécutés face aux homophobes, les pervers contre les bons pères de famille, les abstinents en voyage et les dépravés etc...
Caricature bêta et fausse. C'en est presque vexant , je n'aurais pas la prétention de te juger de manière aussi simpliste.
Caricature bêta et fausse. C'en est presque vexant , je n'aurais pas la prétention de te juger de manière aussi simpliste.
Je ne vois pas où est la confusion quand je parle de critère déterminant qu'est la jeunesse en parlant des pédophiles, il est bien évident que je parle des victimes et non des boureaux !
Pour être clair : 13/14 ans c'est de la pédophilie, 18 et plus du tourisme sexuel.....entre les deux plus compliqué car intervient à ce moment la majorité sexuelle et le rapport consenti.
NB : pour ta gouverne, de nombreux couples homosexuels sont fidèles et heureux en ménage depuis fort longtemps....
NB : pour ta gouverne, de nombreux couples homosexuels sont fidèles et heureux en ménage depuis fort longtemps....
B'soir,
dasn pas mal de milieu ( de la teuf dasn les bois jusqu'au paris paris ou la loco ) , c'est franchement les heteros les plus vicelards ! les homos sont provoquants, mais correcte ! les heteros, toujours en pleine puissance et sur d'eux ! j'ai assisté a quelques plans franchement glauque et c'etait toujours des mecs sur des nanas !
Pas terrible tes références parisiennes... La Loco, ou le Paris Paris ...🤪
Tu dois vraiment pas connaître la nuit parisienne. Et surtout pas la scène Gay.
Regarde (si ce n'est déjà fait) IRREVERSIBLE de Gaspar Noé, et si les lieux des scènes du début t'intéressent, je pourrais te donner quelques adresses.
Pour le milieu Gay, pareil, n'hésite pas...
dasn pas mal de milieu ( de la teuf dasn les bois jusqu'au paris paris ou la loco ) , c'est franchement les heteros les plus vicelards ! les homos sont provoquants, mais correcte ! les heteros, toujours en pleine puissance et sur d'eux ! j'ai assisté a quelques plans franchement glauque et c'etait toujours des mecs sur des nanas !
Pas terrible tes références parisiennes... La Loco, ou le Paris Paris ...🤪
Tu dois vraiment pas connaître la nuit parisienne. Et surtout pas la scène Gay.
Regarde (si ce n'est déjà fait) IRREVERSIBLE de Gaspar Noé, et si les lieux des scènes du début t'intéressent, je pourrais te donner quelques adresses.
Pour le milieu Gay, pareil, n'hésite pas...
Que tu le veuilles ou non le tourisme sexuel qu'il soit hétéro ou homo, hommes ou femmes a un dénominateur commun qui est la recherche
de l'éternelle jeunesse... c'est à dire à travers la recherche de plus jeune!
Hello williama, Je n'appelle pas ça la "recherche de l'éternelle jeunesse", mais un délit et un irrespect complet; Consommer de la nourriture locale, c'est compréhensible et dépaysant: papayes, sushis, soupes vietnamiennes... etc Mais "consommer des êtres humains" en voyage, je n'appelle même pas ça du tourisme sexuel (rien que l'expression m'écoeure), c'est une injustice, parmi d'autres malheureusement. Et si tu n'aimes pas les homos, laisse les tranquilles c'est tout, pas besoin de les juger, car on peut tout aussi bien juger les hétéros (et il y en a des louches aussi). Après il y a des intermédiaires entre ceux que tu qualifies "d'abstinents" et les autres de dépravés, on peut très bien rencontrer une petit(e) ami(e) étrangère, en tout bien tout honneur, sans forcément passer par le "tourisme sexuel", par l'abus de mineurs, et que l'on soit homo, hétéro, femme ou homme, ne change rien à l'affaire , question de modération 😉
Hello williama, Je n'appelle pas ça la "recherche de l'éternelle jeunesse", mais un délit et un irrespect complet; Consommer de la nourriture locale, c'est compréhensible et dépaysant: papayes, sushis, soupes vietnamiennes... etc Mais "consommer des êtres humains" en voyage, je n'appelle même pas ça du tourisme sexuel (rien que l'expression m'écoeure), c'est une injustice, parmi d'autres malheureusement. Et si tu n'aimes pas les homos, laisse les tranquilles c'est tout, pas besoin de les juger, car on peut tout aussi bien juger les hétéros (et il y en a des louches aussi). Après il y a des intermédiaires entre ceux que tu qualifies "d'abstinents" et les autres de dépravés, on peut très bien rencontrer une petit(e) ami(e) étrangère, en tout bien tout honneur, sans forcément passer par le "tourisme sexuel", par l'abus de mineurs, et que l'on soit homo, hétéro, femme ou homme, ne change rien à l'affaire , question de modération 😉
«Si tu ne trouves pas d'ami sage, prêt à cheminer avec toi, résolu, constant, marche seul, comme un roi après une conquête ou un éléphant dans la forêt.» Bouddha
Que tu le veuilles ou non le tourisme sexuel qu'il soit hétéro ou homo, hommes ou femmes a un dénominateur commun qui est la recherche
de l'éternelle jeunesse... c'est à dire à travers la recherche de plus jeune!
Hello williama, Je n'appelle pas ça la "recherche de l'éternelle jeunesse", mais un délit et un irrespect complet; Consommer de la nourriture locale, c'est compréhensible et dépaysant: papayes, sushis, soupes vietnamiennes... etc Mais "consommer des êtres humains" en voyage, je n'appelle même pas ça du tourisme sexuel (rien que l'expression m'écoeure), c'est une injustice, parmi d'autres malheureusement. Et si tu n'aimes pas les homos, laisse les tranquilles c'est tout, pas besoin de les juger, car on peut tout aussi bien juger les hétéros (et il y en a des louches aussi). Après il y a des intermédiaires entre ceux que tu qualifies "d'abstinents" et les autres de dépravés, on peut très bien rencontrer une petit(e) ami(e) étrangère, en tout bien tout honneur, sans forcément passer par le "tourisme sexuel", par l'abus de mineurs, et que l'on soit homo, hétéro, femme ou homme, ne change rien à l'affaire , question de modération 😉
😎😉😎
Hello williama, Je n'appelle pas ça la "recherche de l'éternelle jeunesse", mais un délit et un irrespect complet; Consommer de la nourriture locale, c'est compréhensible et dépaysant: papayes, sushis, soupes vietnamiennes... etc Mais "consommer des êtres humains" en voyage, je n'appelle même pas ça du tourisme sexuel (rien que l'expression m'écoeure), c'est une injustice, parmi d'autres malheureusement. Et si tu n'aimes pas les homos, laisse les tranquilles c'est tout, pas besoin de les juger, car on peut tout aussi bien juger les hétéros (et il y en a des louches aussi). Après il y a des intermédiaires entre ceux que tu qualifies "d'abstinents" et les autres de dépravés, on peut très bien rencontrer une petit(e) ami(e) étrangère, en tout bien tout honneur, sans forcément passer par le "tourisme sexuel", par l'abus de mineurs, et que l'on soit homo, hétéro, femme ou homme, ne change rien à l'affaire , question de modération 😉
😎😉😎
Le ciel c'est comme la mer à l’envers,
Par dessus tout, c'est la joie qui m'en impose,
Et je vends ma sublime 500 Royal Enfield, qui se bronze à GOA !
Par dessus tout, c'est la joie qui m'en impose,
Et je vends ma sublime 500 Royal Enfield, qui se bronze à GOA !
c'est gentil mais je ne cherche pas franchement les lieux gay !
pour ce qui est des nuits parisienne , je donnais les grands ecarts de populasse que j'ai pu croiser en soirées des bois a la loco , les extremes quoi ! mais les boites branchouilles ne sont pas les lieux que je recherhce ! j'ai d'autres adresses un peu plus interessantes pour avoir vecu a paris quelques temps !
pour ce qui est des nuits parisienne , je donnais les grands ecarts de populasse que j'ai pu croiser en soirées des bois a la loco , les extremes quoi ! mais les boites branchouilles ne sont pas les lieux que je recherhce ! j'ai d'autres adresses un peu plus interessantes pour avoir vecu a paris quelques temps !
Chais pas. Je réagis sur un pt particulier et ça a un sens. Je suis homo mais des betises secrivent sur cette population ! Ce sont les pirs et je l'assume.
Ça te dérange que je mexprime ? Tu ad le monopole du droit de réponses ?
Elle est redoutable ! 😎
Elle est redoutable ! 😎
Le ciel c'est comme la mer à l’envers,
Par dessus tout, c'est la joie qui m'en impose,
Et je vends ma sublime 500 Royal Enfield, qui se bronze à GOA !
Par dessus tout, c'est la joie qui m'en impose,
Et je vends ma sublime 500 Royal Enfield, qui se bronze à GOA !
On a peut-être fait le tour et les détours de la question, non ? 🤪
Cela vaut-il vraiment la peine de relancer cette discussion qui n'en finit pas d'agoniser ?😕
Non mais! on n'agonise jamais dans ce domaine, on s'éclate😉! ... et merci de laissez s'exprimer ceux et celles qui en ont envie.
Il y a 40 ans une prof d'une trentaine d'année s'est suicidée pour avoir eu des relations sexuelles avec un de ses élèves mineurs. La pression sociale exercée sur elle a été trop forte. Ce drame avait été repris par tous les progressistes de l'époque pour épingler la très rigide morale bourgeoise. Si une affaire similaire se déroulait aujourd'hui cette femme trouverait peu de défenseur auprès d'elle. Elle serait aussitôt reléguée dans les catégories "pédophile" , "prédatrice" , "consommatrice de chair fraîche" ou que sais-je encore. 🤪
On en est revenu au temps du bon vieil ordre moral. Mais ce ne sont plus les bons gros bourgeois étriqués qui portent la chape du moralisme aujourd'hui mais plutôt les "progressistes" d'hier qui se sont arrêtés au bord du chemin de l'ouverture. Pour eux, il faudrait maintenant un monde sans vin, sans pétard, sans bordel! avec des homos bien lisses et fidèles qui vont benoîtement devant Mr le Maire ... et des femmes libérées par le travail mais coincées et passe-partout pour le reste...
Non mais! on n'agonise jamais dans ce domaine, on s'éclate😉! ... et merci de laissez s'exprimer ceux et celles qui en ont envie.
Il y a 40 ans une prof d'une trentaine d'année s'est suicidée pour avoir eu des relations sexuelles avec un de ses élèves mineurs. La pression sociale exercée sur elle a été trop forte. Ce drame avait été repris par tous les progressistes de l'époque pour épingler la très rigide morale bourgeoise. Si une affaire similaire se déroulait aujourd'hui cette femme trouverait peu de défenseur auprès d'elle. Elle serait aussitôt reléguée dans les catégories "pédophile" , "prédatrice" , "consommatrice de chair fraîche" ou que sais-je encore. 🤪
On en est revenu au temps du bon vieil ordre moral. Mais ce ne sont plus les bons gros bourgeois étriqués qui portent la chape du moralisme aujourd'hui mais plutôt les "progressistes" d'hier qui se sont arrêtés au bord du chemin de l'ouverture. Pour eux, il faudrait maintenant un monde sans vin, sans pétard, sans bordel! avec des homos bien lisses et fidèles qui vont benoîtement devant Mr le Maire ... et des femmes libérées par le travail mais coincées et passe-partout pour le reste...
mon petit bonhomme !
a aucuns moments je te dis ou je vais et tu me dis que je n'ai rien vu ????
et puis ta raison, tapes dasnle clichés en pensant que seuls les homos sont capables de leiux SM ! tu vis ou ?? tu coris quoi ??
je pense que dasn un miliex donné , sans taper chez les zoo, ni amateur de douche en tout genre, les heteros m'avait semblé plus glauque; plus trashouille, moins respectueux !
et quandje parles des bois, tu penses au bois de boulogne ?? en l'occurence je parle de teuf partout en europe , se deroulant dasn des bois ....
et oui je suis a l'ouest, a la rochelle , par contre toi t'es bien naze, pas tres bon lecteur, un poil arrogant, et surtout persuadé de cliché ! t'es bien triste !
ca rend pas sourd, par contre sa a l'air de rendre con !
a aucuns moments je te dis ou je vais et tu me dis que je n'ai rien vu ????
et puis ta raison, tapes dasnle clichés en pensant que seuls les homos sont capables de leiux SM ! tu vis ou ?? tu coris quoi ??
je pense que dasn un miliex donné , sans taper chez les zoo, ni amateur de douche en tout genre, les heteros m'avait semblé plus glauque; plus trashouille, moins respectueux !
et quandje parles des bois, tu penses au bois de boulogne ?? en l'occurence je parle de teuf partout en europe , se deroulant dasn des bois ....
et oui je suis a l'ouest, a la rochelle , par contre toi t'es bien naze, pas tres bon lecteur, un poil arrogant, et surtout persuadé de cliché ! t'es bien triste !
ca rend pas sourd, par contre sa a l'air de rendre con !
Ça te dérange que je mexprime ? Tu ad le monopole du droit de réponses ?
t'arretes de faire ton ado a deux balles !! ouias tu veux pas que je vive ??? les homos sont les pries et j'assume ?? t'assumes quoi ??
tous les travers d'une population ??,
tu va loin toi , t'es un gros malin !
t'arretes de faire ton ado a deux balles !! ouias tu veux pas que je vive ??? les homos sont les pries et j'assume ?? t'assumes quoi ??
tous les travers d'une population ??,
tu va loin toi , t'es un gros malin !
Ouaip les homo sont les pi-res, mais j'ajouterais homosapiens 😎
Car tous les humain(e)s sont concernés par la bétise, le mépris, l'irrespect et la rapacité, que cela soit de l'ordre du désir-avidité, ou inversement de la haine-destruction
Quand les êtres humains cesseront de prendre les "autres", comme la planète entière, pour des choses à consommer ou à massacrer, à ce moment là il sera peut-être possible de vivre en paix, ici ou ailleurs C'etait la minute "peace and love" 😄 , le monde est fou, rares sont ceux qui essayent d'être "sapiens"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYFKFU7--M&feature=related
Quand les êtres humains cesseront de prendre les "autres", comme la planète entière, pour des choses à consommer ou à massacrer, à ce moment là il sera peut-être possible de vivre en paix, ici ou ailleurs C'etait la minute "peace and love" 😄 , le monde est fou, rares sont ceux qui essayent d'être "sapiens"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYFKFU7--M&feature=related
«Si tu ne trouves pas d'ami sage, prêt à cheminer avec toi, résolu, constant, marche seul, comme un roi après une conquête ou un éléphant dans la forêt.» Bouddha
Le bois les extrêmes ? LOL
tu veux que je repondes a ca ??
regarde Irreversible, je te dis !
je l'a ivu irreverssible, c'est une boite sado , comm il y en a plains d'heteros du meme styles !
Et je vais parler Dun sujet qui dérange, tu me sors les chiffres des seropos a Paris par type de population .....
?????????????????????????????????????????????????Soupirs !
on va arreter la !! d'acc ????
tu veux que je repondes a ca ??
regarde Irreversible, je te dis !
je l'a ivu irreverssible, c'est une boite sado , comm il y en a plains d'heteros du meme styles !
Et je vais parler Dun sujet qui dérange, tu me sors les chiffres des seropos a Paris par type de population .....
?????????????????????????????????????????????????Soupirs !
on va arreter la !! d'acc ????
Il y a 40 ans une prof d'une trentaine d'année s'est suicidée pour avoir eu des relations sexuelles avec un de ses élèves mineurs. La pression sociale exercée sur elle a été trop forte. Ce drame avait été repris par tous les progressistes de l'époque pour épingler la très rigide morale bourgeoise. Si une affaire similaire se déroulait aujourd'hui cette femme trouverait peu de défenseur auprès d'elle. Elle serait aussitôt reléguée dans les catégories "pédophile" , "prédatrice" , "consommatrice de chair fraîche" ou que sais-je encore.
Encore une fois n'importe quoi, il suffit de voir le traitement que les médias ont fait récemment d'une histoire d'amour entre un lycéen et une femme mûre, qui plus est lourdement handicapée. Rien de ce que tu affirmes n'est arrivé. Voir par exemple ICI ou LA.
Encore une fois n'importe quoi, il suffit de voir le traitement que les médias ont fait récemment d'une histoire d'amour entre un lycéen et une femme mûre, qui plus est lourdement handicapée. Rien de ce que tu affirmes n'est arrivé. Voir par exemple ICI ou LA.
Rien de ce que tu affirmes n'est arrivé...
c'est oublier un peu vite les dizaines d'instits, prêtres et autres personnes qui se suicident chaque année suite aux calomnies et aux fausses accusations portées par ceux qui ont érigé la parole des enfants en vérité absolue! Il faut se souvenir aussi des inculpés d'Outreau qui n'ont fini par émouvoir la société que lorsque la justice a enfin reconnu ses erreurs. A la paranoïa ambiante sur la pédophilie il n'y a aucun courant d'idées ni de têtes qui se dressent pour dénoncer ce qu'il faut bien appeler les dérives du nouvel ordre moral.
Rajoute à cela les autres dérives liées à l'exploitation des réseaux sociaux comme Facebook par des employeurs souvent pour des broutilles ou cette prof virée de l'Education Nationale car son ami avait mis en ligne des photos dénudées d'elle etc...
Tout comme la très hypocrite fermeture des bordels et la disparition des prostituées dans les rues ... pour ensuite mieux les faire réapparaître juste de l'autre côté ... de la frontière côté belge ou espagnol...
c'est l'ordre moral de ceux qui voulaient une société parfaite, sans curés et sans putes.
c'est oublier un peu vite les dizaines d'instits, prêtres et autres personnes qui se suicident chaque année suite aux calomnies et aux fausses accusations portées par ceux qui ont érigé la parole des enfants en vérité absolue! Il faut se souvenir aussi des inculpés d'Outreau qui n'ont fini par émouvoir la société que lorsque la justice a enfin reconnu ses erreurs. A la paranoïa ambiante sur la pédophilie il n'y a aucun courant d'idées ni de têtes qui se dressent pour dénoncer ce qu'il faut bien appeler les dérives du nouvel ordre moral.
Rajoute à cela les autres dérives liées à l'exploitation des réseaux sociaux comme Facebook par des employeurs souvent pour des broutilles ou cette prof virée de l'Education Nationale car son ami avait mis en ligne des photos dénudées d'elle etc...
Tout comme la très hypocrite fermeture des bordels et la disparition des prostituées dans les rues ... pour ensuite mieux les faire réapparaître juste de l'autre côté ... de la frontière côté belge ou espagnol...
c'est l'ordre moral de ceux qui voulaient une société parfaite, sans curés et sans putes.
Bonsoir williama,
Comme tu persistes.....😕 Je me sens un peu obligée de remettre ici la réponse que j'avais envoyée à ton précédent message, que j'avais supprimée pour ne pas t'encourager à poursuivre....
Donc :
Bonjour williama,
J'ai beau relire ton message nocturne, je ne le comprends pas (c'est rassurant, tu me diras...)
Tu écris :
Si une affaire similaire se déroulait aujourd'hui cette femme trouverait peu de défenseur auprès d'elle. Elle serait aussitôt reléguée dans les catégories "pédophile" , "prédatrice" , "consommatrice de chair fraîche" ou que sais-je encore. 🤪
Ce qui laisse entendre que tu condamnerais l'absence de soutien à l'égard de cette femme.
Le 18 mai, tu écrivais :
En matière de pédophilie par exemple, les" incroyants" et autres émules de mai 68 ont l'absolution facile lorsqu'il s'agit de l'administrer à des Polanski, F Mitterand ou Cohn Bendit ...
Où tu ne supportes pas que des gens , que tu n'hésites pas à accuser de façon éhontée, aient été soutenues face aux allégations portées à leur encontre.
Bon, tu n'es plus à une contradiction près....🤪 D'un message à l'autre, d'une discussion à l'autre, c'est toujours le même mouvement de balancier.
- -- (fin du message) -- Ta réponse à Lepiaf ce soir ne fait que me conforter dans la représentation que je pourrais avoir d'un williama-girouette, aux idées qui changent, pour maintenir à jour ses sujets de prédilection.......
Comme tu persistes.....😕 Je me sens un peu obligée de remettre ici la réponse que j'avais envoyée à ton précédent message, que j'avais supprimée pour ne pas t'encourager à poursuivre....
Donc :
Bonjour williama,
J'ai beau relire ton message nocturne, je ne le comprends pas (c'est rassurant, tu me diras...)
Tu écris :
Si une affaire similaire se déroulait aujourd'hui cette femme trouverait peu de défenseur auprès d'elle. Elle serait aussitôt reléguée dans les catégories "pédophile" , "prédatrice" , "consommatrice de chair fraîche" ou que sais-je encore. 🤪
Ce qui laisse entendre que tu condamnerais l'absence de soutien à l'égard de cette femme.
Le 18 mai, tu écrivais :
En matière de pédophilie par exemple, les" incroyants" et autres émules de mai 68 ont l'absolution facile lorsqu'il s'agit de l'administrer à des Polanski, F Mitterand ou Cohn Bendit ...
Où tu ne supportes pas que des gens , que tu n'hésites pas à accuser de façon éhontée, aient été soutenues face aux allégations portées à leur encontre.
Bon, tu n'es plus à une contradiction près....🤪 D'un message à l'autre, d'une discussion à l'autre, c'est toujours le même mouvement de balancier.
- -- (fin du message) -- Ta réponse à Lepiaf ce soir ne fait que me conforter dans la représentation que je pourrais avoir d'un williama-girouette, aux idées qui changent, pour maintenir à jour ses sujets de prédilection.......
c'est oublier un peu vite les dizaines d'instits, prêtres et autres personnes qui se suicident chaque année suite aux calomnies et aux fausses accusations portées par ceux qui ont érigé la parole des enfants en vérité absolue! Il faut se souvenir aussi des inculpés d'Outreau qui n'ont fini par émouvoir la société que lorsque la justice a enfin reconnu ses erreurs.
Rien à voir avec l'histoire d'amour entre une femme mûre et un adolescent, pris en défaut, tu changes de sujet, pirouette cacahuète comme d'hab. Je suis 100% d'accord avec la dernière phrase du post de Kelessuf.
Rien à voir avec l'histoire d'amour entre une femme mûre et un adolescent, pris en défaut, tu changes de sujet, pirouette cacahuète comme d'hab. Je suis 100% d'accord avec la dernière phrase du post de Kelessuf.
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"It seems to me that poverty would be less painful in the sun" wrote Aznavour...
Not sure...😕 Who can prove that people in hot countries are happier than others? What do you think?
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Hi everyone, just this once I’m not posting for a travel story, but to share a thought for Venezuela.
If you didn’t know—since it’s not making headlines—the country was hit by two 7.5-magnitude earthquakes last week. Over 2,200 people have died, more than 50,000 are missing, and some coastal towns have been completely destroyed. Maybe when the scale of the humanitarian crisis becomes clear, our media will cover it a bit more... especially since earthquakes with this many casualties usually make the front page, but there’s been nothing in France.
So here’s a thought for this country, which, whatever you think of its politics, is a true jewel of South America, both for its landscapes and its people.
If you didn’t know—since it’s not making headlines—the country was hit by two 7.5-magnitude earthquakes last week. Over 2,200 people have died, more than 50,000 are missing, and some coastal towns have been completely destroyed. Maybe when the scale of the humanitarian crisis becomes clear, our media will cover it a bit more... especially since earthquakes with this many casualties usually make the front page, but there’s been nothing in France.
So here’s a thought for this country, which, whatever you think of its politics, is a true jewel of South America, both for its landscapes and its people.
hi there
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No harassers or thieves, and no Russians either.
A local lunch costs around 1 €.
A *** hotel room is about 25 €, and you can find hotels right on My Khe Beach.
We have a specialty: *banh xeo*—10 crepes for just 1.5 €.
You can rent motorbikes to explore the province and maybe visit the many ethnic minorities.
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We're planning to spend a month in Vietnam. Is hiring a guide helpful?
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Hello everyone,
It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question. They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕 Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
Please forgive my little rant.
Wishing everyone all the best. Cheers,
Puma2A

...
It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question. They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕 Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
Please forgive my little rant.
Wishing everyone all the best. Cheers,
Puma2A

...
I spent 3 weeks in Bali last summer (+ 3 nights on Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java). So I wanted to see what ChatGPT could suggest for comparison...
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.). Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did. I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights Sidemen (2 nights) Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD: - Walk around central Ubud (1–2h) - Campuhan Ridge Walk - Tegalalang Rice Terrace - Tirta Empul - Gunung Kawi - Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN: - Rice terrace hike (2–3h) - Cooking class
IN AMED: - Snorkeling - Japanese Shipwreck - Beach + relaxation - Volcano sunset
ON GILI: - Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK: - Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall - Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level) - Ulun Danu Bratan Temple - Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN - Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well: 👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option 12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM) 1 PM: ferry 3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer 11 PM: start ascent 2 AM–6 AM: volcano Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM) 👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency 💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR: - Relaxation - Quiet beach - Proximity to airport (30 min)"
BUDGET: "3,000 – 3,900 € for 2 people" (We paid 3,200 €)
In conclusion, it’s not (yet) enough, but it’s (already) pretty impressive!
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.). Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did. I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights Sidemen (2 nights) Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD: - Walk around central Ubud (1–2h) - Campuhan Ridge Walk - Tegalalang Rice Terrace - Tirta Empul - Gunung Kawi - Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN: - Rice terrace hike (2–3h) - Cooking class
IN AMED: - Snorkeling - Japanese Shipwreck - Beach + relaxation - Volcano sunset
ON GILI: - Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK: - Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall - Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level) - Ulun Danu Bratan Temple - Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN - Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well: 👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option 12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM) 1 PM: ferry 3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer 11 PM: start ascent 2 AM–6 AM: volcano Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM) 👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency 💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR: - Relaxation - Quiet beach - Proximity to airport (30 min)"
BUDGET: "3,000 – 3,900 € for 2 people" (We paid 3,200 €)
In conclusion, it’s not (yet) enough, but it’s (already) pretty impressive!
Hello everyone,
I’m sharing the menu posted at the entrance of a bar at the foot of the Porto Tower in Southern Corsica. . .
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Greetings and have a great Sunday.
Puma2A . .

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I’m sharing the menu posted at the entrance of a bar at the foot of the Porto Tower in Southern Corsica. . .
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.Greetings and have a great Sunday.
Puma2A . .

...
I’ve kept the habit of blowing my nose in the sink and then washing my hands—a custom I picked up in India. Sometimes, non-travelers are shocked when they catch me in the act... 🤪
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
Do you bring back customs from your travels?
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
Do you bring back customs from your travels?
After taking a little trip around the world, I came back a few months ago with an idea in mind.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya). There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya). There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
As part of my Master’s thesis, I’m currently conducting a public survey on a topic that concerns all of us when planning a trip: artificial intelligence and the role of human contact in travel planning.
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
Survey link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkmBzW2QOE3_ZirhmdG8e2LQyaWLJxWUeyTR0LzpC8ytlufQ/viewform
Your response will be a huge help for my work and will contribute to a broader reflection on the future of the travel experience.
Thanks in advance to everyone who takes the time to participate!!
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
Survey link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkmBzW2QOE3_ZirhmdG8e2LQyaWLJxWUeyTR0LzpC8ytlufQ/viewform
Your response will be a huge help for my work and will contribute to a broader reflection on the future of the travel experience.
Thanks in advance to everyone who takes the time to participate!!
While browsing the forum to gather info for my upcoming trip to Thailand, I often see the terms "traveler," "great traveler," and also "tourist"—so what’s the nuance for you?
I've traveled quite a bit in Vietnam over the past few years—from the southern delta to bustling cities and even some small islands—but what really sticks with me is the north, the high mountains.
Up there, there's something different—maybe slower, more raw. The morning markets with ethnic groups, women in traditional clothes, the colors...
The stilt houses, kids following you and laughing for no reason, the terraced rice fields—it almost feels unreal at times, so vast and quiet, yet so human and simple.
You often hear that Sapa has become too touristy, and that's partly true, especially in the center. But as soon as you move a little farther away, everything changes quickly. The landscapes open up, encounters feel more natural, and you rediscover something truly authentic.
I think it's that contrast that struck me—the difference between what you imagine before going and what you actually discover when you take the time.
And you—what memory do you hold onto from Vietnam? A particular place that touched you more than others?
Hello,
We’re finalizing the plans for our upcoming trip to China in May 2025. The second-to-last stop will be in Zhangjiajie, where we’ve planned to stay for 2 full days before heading to Shanghai.
We’re traveling solo using local transport and have arranged to stay in the city of Zhangjiajie.
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see: Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees. We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain. But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
Do you know if it’s possible to get around on our own, or is it better to go through a local agency or book a package like the one sold by TravelChinaGuide? https://www.travelchinaguide.com/package/zhangjiajie/2days-tour.htm
Thanks in advance for your advice! Alod
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see: Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees. We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain. But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
Do you know if it’s possible to get around on our own, or is it better to go through a local agency or book a package like the one sold by TravelChinaGuide? https://www.travelchinaguide.com/package/zhangjiajie/2days-tour.htm
Thanks in advance for your advice! Alod
Hello 🙂
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore. A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Catherine
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore. A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Catherine
Hi everyone, here’s our itinerary. Arriving on the evening of December 13th. Departing on January 7th.
Thanks in advance for your tips and valuable feedback.
Manila – 1 night Coron – 4 nights Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights El Nido – 4 nights Port Barton – 5 nights Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan Vigan – 2 nights Sagada – 2 nights Banaue – 2 nights Bagabag – 1 night Manila – 1 night I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Thanks in advance. Florence
Manila – 1 night Coron – 4 nights Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights El Nido – 4 nights Port Barton – 5 nights Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan Vigan – 2 nights Sagada – 2 nights Banaue – 2 nights Bagabag – 1 night Manila – 1 night I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Thanks in advance. Florence
Really disappointed with Costa Rica! Pura vida? The scam of the century!
(Costa Rica pure emptiness).
The country where animals are free and people are in cages. 3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer. Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness. My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place. On the main routes, we visited: San José Alajuela Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side) Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side) And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched. He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown. What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor. At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José: It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken. On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox. From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire. Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets. Bars with security guards out front. I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel. The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses. The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in. A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park. Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further. We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it. A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces. A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures. But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business. Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse! According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable. Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos. A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park! A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park. The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color. Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded! Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30. The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches. As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves. A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!" For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex! The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for? For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places. In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs: Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you. For everyone else: run!
The country where animals are free and people are in cages. 3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer. Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness. My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place. On the main routes, we visited: San José Alajuela Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side) Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side) And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched. He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown. What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor. At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José: It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken. On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox. From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire. Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets. Bars with security guards out front. I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel. The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses. The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in. A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park. Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further. We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it. A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces. A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures. But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business. Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse! According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable. Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos. A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park! A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park. The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color. Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded! Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30. The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches. As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves. A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!" For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex! The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for? For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places. In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs: Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you. For everyone else: run!
Hello,
Since the war between Russia and Ukraine, nothing is simple anymore for traveling to Belarus due to sanctions.
No more direct flights from the EU to Minsk.
Driving is a huge hassle, especially crossing through Poland at the only open border in Brest—you can wait 2, 3, or even 4 days just to get through by car.
The least painful driving option is to come via Lithuania and cross at the only open border, with a minimum wait time of 8 hours, sometimes up to 20 hours or more!!
Controls are very strict and annoying on both the Lithuanian and Belarusian sides. Avoid bringing alcohol, food, or cigarettes—everything will end up in the trash, especially when leaving Belarus for Vilnius, where the Lithuanians are tough, even with EU citizens.
The joy I once knew when visiting my wife in Minsk is sadly over—it’s now a real ordeal.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example. For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk. The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border. The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times. Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot). For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border. You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes. From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??). With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!! For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations. However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards. Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future. After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example. For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk. The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border. The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times. Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot). For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border. You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes. From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??). With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!! For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations. However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards. Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future. After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
Hi everyone!
I’m putting together our travel itinerary for Veneto at the end of April. And the more I look and research potential sites to visit, the more I find!
We’ll only be there for a week—my family and I—including 3 days in Venice. So we have to make some choices...
I plan to rent a car when we arrive in Venice and head straight to Bergamo, which would be our first stop. We’d leave the car at the airport when we return to Venice so we can explore the city at our leisure.
What do you think: 1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport), 1 night in Garda, 1 night in Verona, 1 in Padua, and 3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
What do you think: 1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport), 1 night in Garda, 1 night in Verona, 1 in Padua, and 3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
Now that the curtain has fallen on the past year, it’s time to see what’s happening around here.
It seems pretty quiet, but I’ll read more in detail later.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year. I told her: “Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.” “But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.” I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk. “Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.” I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen. “Mamido, I did it!” My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no! “Congratulations, sweetheart!” A little shyly, she said: “Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying: “Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint! But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out. Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me. But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back. My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special? That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year. I told her: “Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.” “But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.” I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk. “Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.” I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen. “Mamido, I did it!” My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no! “Congratulations, sweetheart!” A little shyly, she said: “Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying: “Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint! But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out. Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me. But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back. My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special? That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
I’ve visited the U.S. four times myself, including two long road trips. The last one was just this past August...
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
Hi there,
While reading some travel journals, I notice that we always reflect on the people of the countries we visit.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on which people charmed you the most during your travels?
I’m not looking for controversy, just reflections and personal feelings. Looking forward to reading your replies...
While reading some travel journals, I notice that we always reflect on the people of the countries we visit.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on which people charmed you the most during your travels?
I’m not looking for controversy, just reflections and personal feelings. Looking forward to reading your replies...
Hello everyone,
Controversial topic? Not necessarily—maybe just a reflection on a world to come.
I spent the last 15 days of August on a cruise in Greenland, from Kangerlussuaq to Tasiilaq.
I was utterly amazed by this unique world of rock and ice, the little houses in every color, a simple life that’s also complicated by isolation and climate, among other things...
I carry in my heart the kindness of the people I met, the raw and gentle majesty of the icebergs, the colors of the sky...
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
Best regards,
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
Best regards,

Hello to all East Africa lovers and nature enthusiasts in general,
While I prepare to share a recap of our latest trip/safari in Kenya soon, I’d like to wish you all a peaceful transition between 2025 and 2026.
Warm regards,
Puma2A.





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We’re a couple aged 58 and 63. We’ve just returned from a wonderful trip to South India in Tamil Nadu and a few days in Kerala. We traveled with a local French-speaking guide and his friend, the driver. They both live in Pondicherry. We spent 3 weeks with them in the most authentic way!
We covered just over 2,500 km and visited not only temples but also archaeological sites, museums, and small artisanal businesses making tiles, tea, sculptures, bronze, and silk spinning. We were lucky enough to visit a public school, attend a wedding, and even a death announcement in a small countryside village. We were fully immersed in the culture, food, noise, and colors—it was incredible!
The hotels and guesthouses we chose were very clean and mostly quiet. We’re returning from India with amazing discoveries!
We’re happy to share more info if you’d like! M-Claire and Jean
We covered just over 2,500 km and visited not only temples but also archaeological sites, museums, and small artisanal businesses making tiles, tea, sculptures, bronze, and silk spinning. We were lucky enough to visit a public school, attend a wedding, and even a death announcement in a small countryside village. We were fully immersed in the culture, food, noise, and colors—it was incredible!
The hotels and guesthouses we chose were very clean and mostly quiet. We’re returning from India with amazing discoveries!
We’re happy to share more info if you’d like! M-Claire and Jean
This catchy and somewhat mysterious title comes from several questions I’ve been asking myself.
VF has been back open for a reasonable number of weeks and months now. The number of visitors overall matches past averages, but the number of members online in the last 24 hours seems relatively lower than what we used to see.
Yet, to my surprise, I’m seeing fewer travel journals, way fewer messages, and way fewer questions. I don’t see many new registered users online, and I notice a number of members who are logged in but either aren’t participating or have stopped participating.
Something’s not adding up for me because, in my opinion, VF is still appealing, and I don’t see which other sites could really compete.
Was there a real break between pre- and post-Covid? Does it just take more time for some people to discover the site or learn that it’s active again? Do people now prefer quick consumption on sites like FB or others I’m not familiar with? Where have the site’s old-timers gone, and what are they doing with their time now? What’s really going on here?
VF has been back open for a reasonable number of weeks and months now. The number of visitors overall matches past averages, but the number of members online in the last 24 hours seems relatively lower than what we used to see.
Yet, to my surprise, I’m seeing fewer travel journals, way fewer messages, and way fewer questions. I don’t see many new registered users online, and I notice a number of members who are logged in but either aren’t participating or have stopped participating.
Something’s not adding up for me because, in my opinion, VF is still appealing, and I don’t see which other sites could really compete.
Was there a real break between pre- and post-Covid? Does it just take more time for some people to discover the site or learn that it’s active again? Do people now prefer quick consumption on sites like FB or others I’m not familiar with? Where have the site’s old-timers gone, and what are they doing with their time now? What’s really going on here?
Hi there,
This isn’t exactly a traveler’s question... I’d like to know who handles the technical side of this forum?
I run a similar forum on a different topic (unrecognized children), and we’re dealing with a few technical issues that are slowly killing our forum... so I’d have one or two questions to ask 😊.
Also, I was wondering who created this forum... who the administrators or moderators are, etc.
I think this forum is great. Much better than Facebook, which I’ve been using since it shut down (so I’m happy to see it’s working again...)
This isn’t exactly a traveler’s question... I’d like to know who handles the technical side of this forum?
I run a similar forum on a different topic (unrecognized children), and we’re dealing with a few technical issues that are slowly killing our forum... so I’d have one or two questions to ask 😊.
Also, I was wondering who created this forum... who the administrators or moderators are, etc.
I think this forum is great. Much better than Facebook, which I’ve been using since it shut down (so I’m happy to see it’s working again...)
Hi there, I’ve been traveling for 18 years now, at least 6 months a year, and as the years go by, I actually enjoy coming back to France more and more—a feeling I struggled with at first. I mean, we always think the grass is greener elsewhere.
But in the end, I find meaning in that saying about how there’s no place like home. I still love traveling just as much, but now my trips are shorter, and I enjoy spending more time in our beautiful country, even though I don’t hesitate to criticize it.
How about you? How do you handle coming back from your travels?
A few years ago, I went with a group of friends to lend a hand at a small rural school near Thiès, Senegal.
It was a relaxed but hardworking atmosphere—hands in the mortar, laughter, exchanges, and everything that a COOPERATION project can bring.
Today, the little project is flying on its own.
Wanting to explore Senegal’s riches, we set off for some tourism in the Siné Saloum. One girl in our group fell ill (a malaria attack), and we decided to take her to see a doctor at a large tourist complex nearby. Despite her condition, we had to "show our credentials" (if I may say so) just to get in. She was treated and has been fine since.
This "stop" at a Club Med-style resort with a Teutonic twist—resembling Le Grau-du-Roi but fancier—was a horror show for us: pools, massive artificial basins dyed blue, pink, or green (!!!!), animators shouting around wet T-shirt contests or coconut tree climbing, and sunburned (or sun-pinked) *toubabs*. The entire hotel was surrounded by a huge wall, behind which a small souvenir-seller slum had sprung up, worthy of Dakar’s outer neighborhoods. On leaving, we saw a minibus of guests returning from an "excursion," loaded with masks, fabrics, and djembés—African souvenirs? Maybe those will be *theirs*? What impression did the kids clustered at the hotel gates get? What about the Black servers in "traditional African costumes," serving cocktails and ice cream nonstop?
For me, who experienced Africa very young and in the bush, this remains a haunting image.
On VF, this kind of vacation doesn’t seem to be the norm among users, and that’s exactly why I signed up.
Have you ever experienced this kind of interstellar travel? Do you understand the Martians? Are their motivations peaceful?
Wanting to explore Senegal’s riches, we set off for some tourism in the Siné Saloum. One girl in our group fell ill (a malaria attack), and we decided to take her to see a doctor at a large tourist complex nearby. Despite her condition, we had to "show our credentials" (if I may say so) just to get in. She was treated and has been fine since.
This "stop" at a Club Med-style resort with a Teutonic twist—resembling Le Grau-du-Roi but fancier—was a horror show for us: pools, massive artificial basins dyed blue, pink, or green (!!!!), animators shouting around wet T-shirt contests or coconut tree climbing, and sunburned (or sun-pinked) *toubabs*. The entire hotel was surrounded by a huge wall, behind which a small souvenir-seller slum had sprung up, worthy of Dakar’s outer neighborhoods. On leaving, we saw a minibus of guests returning from an "excursion," loaded with masks, fabrics, and djembés—African souvenirs? Maybe those will be *theirs*? What impression did the kids clustered at the hotel gates get? What about the Black servers in "traditional African costumes," serving cocktails and ice cream nonstop?
For me, who experienced Africa very young and in the bush, this remains a haunting image.
On VF, this kind of vacation doesn’t seem to be the norm among users, and that’s exactly why I signed up.
Have you ever experienced this kind of interstellar travel? Do you understand the Martians? Are their motivations peaceful?