merci beaucoup bolchoie spassiba 😎 minooshka et la meuh
Paris-Kiev en train
by Minooshka
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
bonjour, nous sommes étudiantes et nous allons étudier l'année prochaine en Russie mais avant nous aimerions faire un crochet par l'Ukraine. Nous y sommes déjà allées mais en bus. Mais comme nous ne pouvons y rester que 10 jours et que cela met 3 jours pour y aller en bus nous aimerions tester un autre moyen de transport (notamment plus confortable) nous avons pensé au train, nous aimerions partir de Paris et arriver à Kiev, mais nous ne savons pas bien comment réserver on a vu le site "bahn" mais on ne sait pas à combien reviendrait ce trajet aller
si quelqu'un peut nous donner une petite idée du montant ou d'autres tuyaux ( s'il faut réserver à l'avance, etc...)
merci beaucoup bolchoie spassiba 😎 minooshka et la meuh
merci beaucoup bolchoie spassiba 😎 minooshka et la meuh
J'ai payé l'an dernier, l'aller simple Kiev Budapest autour de 100 euros. Il ya aussi des trains Paris Vienne et un train quotidien Vienne Kiev. Un site interessant est aussi obb.at le site en allemand et anglais des chemins de fer autrichiens qui peuvent des billets par téléphone dont le Paris Vienne pour une trentaine d'euros. Les chemins de fer alemand propose aussi un Berlin Kiev peut-être avec des prmotions. A mon sens la solution la plus interessante est de prendre un low cost par avion jusqu'à Vienne Brastislava ou Budapest et de Budapest prendre le bus du samedi à22h30 qui arrive le lendemain àKiev à16h30 je crois pour 50 euro l'aller. eurolines.com puis taper Hungary pour pays de départ et ensuite sélectionner Kiev
Joël Tychyj
Bonsoir!
Comme je suis passionné de chemins de fer europééns, et aussi Interrailer, je peux vous aider à combiner le meilleur trajet sur l'axe Paris-Kyew, par Kehl-Munich-Vienne-Budapest-Chop-Lwov.
Par train de nuit on arrive à Munich, où, à 9.26 l'EC 63"Bela Bartok" départ direct jusqu'à Budapest, où, à 18.15 départ le train de Vagon Lits Budapest-Kyew/Moscou(avec voitures directes de Zagreb, Belgrade, Venise pour Kyew et Moscou).
Avec des offres commerciales on peut combiner des differents parcours.
J'espère de pouvoir vous aider, à planifier, votre voyage sans problèmes.
En Internet, on peut reserver des places, seulement jusqu'à Budapest.
Bonsoir,
Si vous avez moins de 26 ans, vérifiez sur le site "interrail.com" si vous avez la possibilité d'acquérir une carte Interrail d'une durée adaptée à votre projet pour un pris très raisonnable. Elle vous permettra le cas échéant de traverser l'Allemagne et la Pologne ou tout autre pays de l'UE dans d'excellentes conditions. Il ne vous restera plus qu'à acheter un billet pour le parcours Ukrainien. Varsovie est le point de départ des trains vers l'Ukraine. Les points frontière sont Dorohusk (Warszawa Clna- Lublin - Chelm - Kovel (Sarny -Korostan - Kyiv / Chervonohrad - Lviv) et Medyka (Warszawa Clna - Radom - Rzeszow - Przemys'l - Lviv).
Avec une carte Interrail vous pouvez passer par Metz, Franckfurt, Praha Hlvni, Zilina, Propad-Tatry, Kosice, Cerna n.Tisou (SLK), Chop (UA) et Lviv. Vous pouvez également passer par Salzburg, Wien, Budapest et Zahony (continuation sur Chop, Lviv et au delà). Vous pouvez visiter Prague et Budapest moyennant un petit détour par Brno et Bratislava (villes également intéressantes).
Dans tous les cas, munissez vous de cartes des réseaux concernés (en caractères cyrilliques pour l'Ukraine - Transcriptions en caractères latins trop approximatives voire non pertinentes).
Il y a lieu de faire preuve d'une grande vigilance dans les trains nocturnes en correspondance avec les trains en provenance des métropoles d'Europe Occidentale à Warszawa, Budapest, Bratislava, Berlin ou Wien. Les risques de vols sont hélas bien réels.
Salutations amicales et bon voyage.
Si vous avez moins de 26 ans, vérifiez sur le site "interrail.com" si vous avez la possibilité d'acquérir une carte Interrail d'une durée adaptée à votre projet pour un pris très raisonnable. Elle vous permettra le cas échéant de traverser l'Allemagne et la Pologne ou tout autre pays de l'UE dans d'excellentes conditions. Il ne vous restera plus qu'à acheter un billet pour le parcours Ukrainien. Varsovie est le point de départ des trains vers l'Ukraine. Les points frontière sont Dorohusk (Warszawa Clna- Lublin - Chelm - Kovel (Sarny -Korostan - Kyiv / Chervonohrad - Lviv) et Medyka (Warszawa Clna - Radom - Rzeszow - Przemys'l - Lviv).
Avec une carte Interrail vous pouvez passer par Metz, Franckfurt, Praha Hlvni, Zilina, Propad-Tatry, Kosice, Cerna n.Tisou (SLK), Chop (UA) et Lviv. Vous pouvez également passer par Salzburg, Wien, Budapest et Zahony (continuation sur Chop, Lviv et au delà). Vous pouvez visiter Prague et Budapest moyennant un petit détour par Brno et Bratislava (villes également intéressantes).
Dans tous les cas, munissez vous de cartes des réseaux concernés (en caractères cyrilliques pour l'Ukraine - Transcriptions en caractères latins trop approximatives voire non pertinentes).
Il y a lieu de faire preuve d'une grande vigilance dans les trains nocturnes en correspondance avec les trains en provenance des métropoles d'Europe Occidentale à Warszawa, Budapest, Bratislava, Berlin ou Wien. Les risques de vols sont hélas bien réels.
Salutations amicales et bon voyage.
Marlène Riwkeh
Bonjour,
ce n'est pas la 1ère fois que tu mets des messages et que tu dis être passionné par les trains pourrais-tu me dire quel train je pourrais avoir, le + rapide, pour aller à Craiova (Sud Ouest de la Roumanie) au départ de Gourdon (Lot - Sud Ouest de la France) j'ai cherché par Marseille et aussi par Paris, mais je trouve des trajets avec de nombreux changements et entre 38 et 45 heures tu aurais une autre proposition à me faire, + rapide ? je te remercie beaucoup de ta réponse
je compte faire ce trajet du 16 au 31 août je te souhaite une excellente journée MO
ce n'est pas la 1ère fois que tu mets des messages et que tu dis être passionné par les trains pourrais-tu me dire quel train je pourrais avoir, le + rapide, pour aller à Craiova (Sud Ouest de la Roumanie) au départ de Gourdon (Lot - Sud Ouest de la France) j'ai cherché par Marseille et aussi par Paris, mais je trouve des trajets avec de nombreux changements et entre 38 et 45 heures tu aurais une autre proposition à me faire, + rapide ? je te remercie beaucoup de ta réponse
je compte faire ce trajet du 16 au 31 août je te souhaite une excellente journée MO
Monique
😎😄
Bonsoir!
J'espère de vous aider encore une fois à planifier un long voyage entre Marseille où Paris, jusqu'à Craiova, Roumanie(je suis marrié depuis 2001 avec une femme de Bucarest, et, c'est pour ça que je connais assez bien, les horaires del'Europe de l'est).
On doit, toutefois, palnifier deux differents itineraires, via Marseille-Milan-Venise-Vienne-Budapest, et Paris-Munich-Vienne-Budapest.
1) Marseillle:11.02 TGV Nice :13.25 Nice :14.05 EC à prix global Milano Cle:18.50 " " :21.05 Euronight à prix global;sparschiene valable, only CC et WL Vienne Sud:8.52 Vienne West:13.35 Tram 18 Sudbahnhof-Westbahnhof:1 € Budapest Keleti:16.48 Eurocity;Sparschiene Offre valable " " :19.45 Craiova :08.29 Train R 461"Transbalkan", Budapest-Sofia, Bucarest, Salo
2) Paris Est:22.45 Munich Hbf:08.59 Euronight Paris-Munich et Francfort a/M " " :09.26 Budapest Keleti+Craiova, lire ci dessous. Bon voyage Poerio
1) Marseillle:11.02 TGV Nice :13.25 Nice :14.05 EC à prix global Milano Cle:18.50 " " :21.05 Euronight à prix global;sparschiene valable, only CC et WL Vienne Sud:8.52 Vienne West:13.35 Tram 18 Sudbahnhof-Westbahnhof:1 € Budapest Keleti:16.48 Eurocity;Sparschiene Offre valable " " :19.45 Craiova :08.29 Train R 461"Transbalkan", Budapest-Sofia, Bucarest, Salo
2) Paris Est:22.45 Munich Hbf:08.59 Euronight Paris-Munich et Francfort a/M " " :09.26 Budapest Keleti+Craiova, lire ci dessous. Bon voyage Poerio
Priviat !
Le moyen le plus simple et le plus économique serait de prendre une ligne d'avion low-cost pour la polone, ou la slovaquie, puis de prendre le train. Le moins cher que j'ai fait : Paris Varsovie en avion (40 euros je crois) puis Varsovie-Lviv en bus (10 euros je crois), puis de Lviv le train en platskarta qui ne coute rien mais ne va pas plus vite... Par contre pour le low-cost, meme wizzair tu dois t'y prendre bien avant pour des bons prix
Le moyen le plus simple et le plus économique serait de prendre une ligne d'avion low-cost pour la polone, ou la slovaquie, puis de prendre le train. Le moins cher que j'ai fait : Paris Varsovie en avion (40 euros je crois) puis Varsovie-Lviv en bus (10 euros je crois), puis de Lviv le train en platskarta qui ne coute rien mais ne va pas plus vite... Par contre pour le low-cost, meme wizzair tu dois t'y prendre bien avant pour des bons prix
bonjour
Me voila j ai pris 5 minutes de mon précieux temps pour vous écrire Si vous ne disposez pas de temps le train au départ de Paris n est pas une bonne idée Si vous etes riches je vous propose un aller retour en avion vol direct a kiev depart paris pour 330 euro si vous etes moins riches il vous suffit d acheter un billet sur wizzair ou sky europe varsovie ou cracovie et ensuite le train couchette jusqu a kiev on peut ecrier que vosu avez de la chance que je sois ici je suis un expert des voyages en ukarine
Me voila j ai pris 5 minutes de mon précieux temps pour vous écrire Si vous ne disposez pas de temps le train au départ de Paris n est pas une bonne idée Si vous etes riches je vous propose un aller retour en avion vol direct a kiev depart paris pour 330 euro si vous etes moins riches il vous suffit d acheter un billet sur wizzair ou sky europe varsovie ou cracovie et ensuite le train couchette jusqu a kiev on peut ecrier que vosu avez de la chance que je sois ici je suis un expert des voyages en ukarine
J'ai payé l'an dernier, l'aller simple Kiev Budapest autour de 100 euros.
Cela revient beaucoup beaucoup moins cher et pas nécessairement plus de temps de prendre un ticket Budapest - frontière hongroise ( Zahony ), puis ticket dans le train pour Zahony-Chop (quelques trains par jour font Budapest -Chop mais alors tarif international, je sais pas si on peut faire Zahony-Chop par la route) puis il y a plusieurs trains pour faire Chop-Lviv-Kiev (sans doute 5-10 euros en Platzkartny). Il y en a au moins un qui fait Chop-Kiev direct (en plus du Budapest-Kiev), et beaucoup d'autres Chop-Moscou (train en provenance de toutes les capitales d'Europe de l'Est). ils passent par Lviv (mérite vraiment de s'y attarder quelques jours) mais je ne pense pas qu'ils fassent le détour par Kiev).
Cela revient beaucoup beaucoup moins cher et pas nécessairement plus de temps de prendre un ticket Budapest - frontière hongroise ( Zahony ), puis ticket dans le train pour Zahony-Chop (quelques trains par jour font Budapest -Chop mais alors tarif international, je sais pas si on peut faire Zahony-Chop par la route) puis il y a plusieurs trains pour faire Chop-Lviv-Kiev (sans doute 5-10 euros en Platzkartny). Il y en a au moins un qui fait Chop-Kiev direct (en plus du Budapest-Kiev), et beaucoup d'autres Chop-Moscou (train en provenance de toutes les capitales d'Europe de l'Est). ils passent par Lviv (mérite vraiment de s'y attarder quelques jours) mais je ne pense pas qu'ils fassent le détour par Kiev).
Bonjour,
Votre message date de quelques mois mais m'interesse beaucoup.
J'ai l'intention de faire venir en vacances une étudiante de 23 ans et ses parents. Ils habitent Sarny et n'ont encore jamais voyagé hors d'Ukraine, n'ont jamais pris l'avion. Que me conseillez-vous? L'avion n'est-il pas pourtant le plus simple? de Kiev ou de Varsovie? Qu'en est-il des tarifs avion ou train?
Avec mes remerciements.
Pour les tarifs je ne peux rien dire. Mais l'avion est en général moins cher, si on réserve longtemps à l'avance.
Le problème avec ce trajet en train sera les correspondances, des personnes sans aucune habitude du voyage
(et peut-être aussi sans aucune pratique des langues étrangères) se sentiront peut-être un peu perdues. C'est
peut-être regrettable, mais hélas indéniable que le voyageur inexpérimenté est mieux pris en charge et guidé dans
un aéroport que dans une gare... Sans compter que vous trouverez probablement un vol direct, ce qui hélas
n'existe pas en train.
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I can’t seem to complete the payment for my trip on the IRCTC (Indian Railways) site. No matter which payment method I choose, my Visa card isn’t accepted. Has anyone here managed to do it, and if so, could you share the method you used? Thanks in advance! Charlie
Hello,
Starting November 15th, I’ll be arriving in Thailand, and during my stay, I plan to visit the north, around the Chiang Mai area, then head south to the Krabi region. After Krabi, I’m planning to take an overnight train to Bangkok. I was wondering if there’s a train that leaves from Krabi or Trang, or if I absolutely have to go to Surat Thani? Also, which official website can I use to book my ticket?
Next, since I’ll be arriving at dawn in Bangkok, I’ve planned to spend 2 days in Kanchanaburi. What’s the most convenient way to get there—bus or train? And if you know any companies or websites, that’d be great.
Thanks for your tips!
Fred
Starting November 15th, I’ll be arriving in Thailand, and during my stay, I plan to visit the north, around the Chiang Mai area, then head south to the Krabi region. After Krabi, I’m planning to take an overnight train to Bangkok. I was wondering if there’s a train that leaves from Krabi or Trang, or if I absolutely have to go to Surat Thani? Also, which official website can I use to book my ticket?
Next, since I’ll be arriving at dawn in Bangkok, I’ve planned to spend 2 days in Kanchanaburi. What’s the most convenient way to get there—bus or train? And if you know any companies or websites, that’d be great.
Thanks for your tips!
Fred
Hi! I arrive in Vancouver on August 24, 2025, and I’m staying until Friday, August 29, 2025—the day I take *The Canadian* train to Toronto.
I’m exploring several things in Vancouver, including whale watching—if you’ve got any great tips, don’t hesitate! Thanks!
I’m exploring several things in Vancouver, including whale watching—if you’ve got any great tips, don’t hesitate! Thanks!
Hi there,
Does anyone know if there’s a bus from Luang Namtha to Boten to catch the train coming from China to Vientiane? If so, what’s the name of the company? Also, how long does the bus take to cover that distance? What’s the condition of the road like?
Thanks for your help!
Tom
I just realized there’s only one payment method accepted for booking the Mombasa-Nairobi express train ticket online: M-Pesa, a mobile money transfer service used in Africa. Would it be impossible to book as a European?
Hi
Have any of you booked tickets through rail.ninja?
Hi there,
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient). But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this? We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help, and have a great Sunday!
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient). But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this? We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help, and have a great Sunday!
Hi there,
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Thanks
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Thanks
Hi everyone,
For traveling in Rajasthan by train and bus, could you give me some info: where to buy tickets, cost, purchase locations, websites, etc.?
Any tips you have would be super helpful.
Thanks
Hi there,
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us. I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com. Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend? Are the tickets changeable?
Thanks for your help!
Nicole
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us. I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com. Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend? Are the tickets changeable?
Thanks for your help!
Nicole
Hi everyone,
I’m planning to travel from Ulaanbaatar to Irkutsk by train this summer but I’m a bit worried about crossing the borders. How does it work? Could anyone share their experience? (I’ve found quite a few accounts of people going *from* Russia *to* Mongolia, but entering a country is never the same as leaving it—especially in this context!)
Thanks in advance! 😊
Thanks in advance! 😊
Hi
Can anyone tell me how to book train tickets online? We're planning to travel from HANOI to HO CHI MINH CITY by train, making several stops along the way. I'd also like to find the schedules and the stations where the trains stop.
There are four of us, and we've already planned stops in HANOI / DONG HOI / HUE.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!
Mounette74
Can anyone tell me how to book train tickets online? We're planning to travel from HANOI to HO CHI MINH CITY by train, making several stops along the way. I'd also like to find the schedules and the stations where the trains stop.
There are four of us, and we've already planned stops in HANOI / DONG HOI / HUE.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!
Mounette74
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Japan for the second time with my 20-year-old son. During our first trip, we spent two weeks in Tokyo and Kyoto (plus the surrounding areas). This time, we’re planning to stay in Tokyo for at least 4-5 days and then head to the island of Naoshima. I’m looking for suggestions and advice: Is getting to Naoshima from Tokyo complicated? If so, do you have any recommendations for a stopover somewhere? Given that we’d prefer not to move every day, we’d rather settle in one place and then explore on day trips... Do you think it’s possible to do something like this: 5 nights in Tokyo (Shinjuku) 3 nights in Kyoto 2 nights in Naoshima (or is one night enough??) and if one night is enough, where could I spend a second night on the way back to Tokyo? 2 nights in Tokyo (I’d love your advice on staying in a different neighborhood—last time we stayed near Ueno Park)—keeping in mind we’re flying out of Narita.
I’m considering maybe skipping Kyoto, which I love but has apparently become *very* touristy... Not really keen on Osaka... since we’ll already have done Tokyo as our "big city." I’d prefer towns where nature is present... (a bit like Kyoto, which offers all that...)
For info, we’ll be traveling by train. Thanks in advance for all your suggestions and help!
I have one last little question: Is cash still widely used in Japan, or not at all anymore?
Thanks so much,
Karine
I’m heading to Japan for the second time with my 20-year-old son. During our first trip, we spent two weeks in Tokyo and Kyoto (plus the surrounding areas). This time, we’re planning to stay in Tokyo for at least 4-5 days and then head to the island of Naoshima. I’m looking for suggestions and advice: Is getting to Naoshima from Tokyo complicated? If so, do you have any recommendations for a stopover somewhere? Given that we’d prefer not to move every day, we’d rather settle in one place and then explore on day trips... Do you think it’s possible to do something like this: 5 nights in Tokyo (Shinjuku) 3 nights in Kyoto 2 nights in Naoshima (or is one night enough??) and if one night is enough, where could I spend a second night on the way back to Tokyo? 2 nights in Tokyo (I’d love your advice on staying in a different neighborhood—last time we stayed near Ueno Park)—keeping in mind we’re flying out of Narita.
I’m considering maybe skipping Kyoto, which I love but has apparently become *very* touristy... Not really keen on Osaka... since we’ll already have done Tokyo as our "big city." I’d prefer towns where nature is present... (a bit like Kyoto, which offers all that...)
For info, we’ll be traveling by train. Thanks in advance for all your suggestions and help!
I have one last little question: Is cash still widely used in Japan, or not at all anymore?
Thanks so much,
Karine
Hi everyone,
We’re planning this *very* last-minute—I know! But we’d love to spend 4 days soon (within the next 10–12 days) on a city getaway with our young adult kids. Ideally by train, and for this short trip, we’d prefer not to spend more than 4–6 hours in transit, leaving from Lausanne (Switzerland). We’ve been considering Milan, Strasbourg, or Freiburg im Breisgau, but I’ll admit I’m feeling a bit lost...
Venice was our original plan, but the connection changes in Domodossola or Milan are making the travel time longer this year.
It’s peak summer, so there’ll be tourists and it’ll likely be hot, but oh well...
Any suggestions? We love wandering around, taking photos, exploring cities on foot, trying out restaurants, and keeping things low-key.
Thanks to anyone who wants to chime in! :o)
We’re planning this *very* last-minute—I know! But we’d love to spend 4 days soon (within the next 10–12 days) on a city getaway with our young adult kids. Ideally by train, and for this short trip, we’d prefer not to spend more than 4–6 hours in transit, leaving from Lausanne (Switzerland). We’ve been considering Milan, Strasbourg, or Freiburg im Breisgau, but I’ll admit I’m feeling a bit lost...
Venice was our original plan, but the connection changes in Domodossola or Milan are making the travel time longer this year.
It’s peak summer, so there’ll be tourists and it’ll likely be hot, but oh well...
Any suggestions? We love wandering around, taking photos, exploring cities on foot, trying out restaurants, and keeping things low-key.
Thanks to anyone who wants to chime in! :o)