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Train en Chine avec des vélos
by Caliméro2
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
on désire faire un tour en vélo en Chine et Tibet et Népal cet ete : est ce que quelqu'un sait si on peut mettre des vélos dans les trains chinois pour certaines distances ?
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Oui on peut, on l'a fait !
Nous avons voyage a velo en chine cet automne, entre Chengdu et Yibin puis entre Nanning et la baie d'Halong. On a achete et reequipe les velos a Pekin et on les a mis une premiere fois dans le train jusqu'a Chengdu et une deuxieme fois de Yibin a Nanning, ave changement a Tienjan. Dans les deux cas, nous avons d'abord pris notre billet puis nous sommes ensuite allees dans un bureau sur le cote de la gare. Il a suffit de montrer le velo et le billet de train pour que l'employe comprenne (nous ne parlons pas chinois et ils ne parlent pas toujours anglais loin s'en faut). La principale difficulte pour nous a ete de trouver l'endroit pour enregistrer les velos et les recuperer. Je peux vous les donner pour ces villes si ca vous interesse. Pour le reste, c'etait plutot simple. Les velos ont voyage dans le meme train que nous, nous les avons recupere le lendemain de notre arrivee. On peut les recuperer le jour meme mais il faut attendre environ deux heures apres l'arrivee du train.
je sors un peu de la question posee, mais pour avoir pedale en Chine, je conseillerais de trouver quelques bonnes cartes avant de partir. Les cartes chinoises sont peu precises, n'ont aucune info sur la topographie - bonjour les surprises ! - et sont essentiellement en chinois, ce qui demande une certaine gymnastique mentale...
Si vous voulez d'autres infos, n'hesitez pas !
bon voyage
Oui on peut, on l'a fait !
Nous avons voyage a velo en chine cet automne, entre Chengdu et Yibin puis entre Nanning et la baie d'Halong. On a achete et reequipe les velos a Pekin et on les a mis une premiere fois dans le train jusqu'a Chengdu et une deuxieme fois de Yibin a Nanning, ave changement a Tienjan. Dans les deux cas, nous avons d'abord pris notre billet puis nous sommes ensuite allees dans un bureau sur le cote de la gare. Il a suffit de montrer le velo et le billet de train pour que l'employe comprenne (nous ne parlons pas chinois et ils ne parlent pas toujours anglais loin s'en faut). La principale difficulte pour nous a ete de trouver l'endroit pour enregistrer les velos et les recuperer. Je peux vous les donner pour ces villes si ca vous interesse. Pour le reste, c'etait plutot simple. Les velos ont voyage dans le meme train que nous, nous les avons recupere le lendemain de notre arrivee. On peut les recuperer le jour meme mais il faut attendre environ deux heures apres l'arrivee du train.
je sors un peu de la question posee, mais pour avoir pedale en Chine, je conseillerais de trouver quelques bonnes cartes avant de partir. Les cartes chinoises sont peu precises, n'ont aucune info sur la topographie - bonjour les surprises ! - et sont essentiellement en chinois, ce qui demande une certaine gymnastique mentale...
Si vous voulez d'autres infos, n'hesitez pas !
bon voyage
salut claire
on projette de donner nous aussi qqs coups de pedales en chine. peut-on savoir ou tu as achete ton velo, si tu en as trouve un pas trop pourri et surtout ( he oui!) combien l'as-tu payé?
merci d'avance.
on projette de donner nous aussi qqs coups de pedales en chine. peut-on savoir ou tu as achete ton velo, si tu en as trouve un pas trop pourri et surtout ( he oui!) combien l'as-tu payé?
merci d'avance.
Bonjour
On a achete les velo a Pekin. C'etait pas des velos chinois... le mien est un randonneur Giant qu'on a fait reequiper avec du Shimano (freins, derailleurs, axes, pedaliers... ) On l'a trouve dans un magasin Giant sur Jiaodaokou Dajie. Il y a pas mal d'autres magasins dans la ville mais dans celui ci, ils etaient competents, adorables, patients, et l'une des vendeuses parle un peu anglais. Ils ont aussi un bon stock de pieces de rechange. J'ai paye le velo 1900 yuans (environ 190 euros), les pieces 1200 yuans (120 euros). Tu dois pouvoir voir le velo sur le site de Giant chine - quand il est pas en derangement...
Les saccoches et les casques ont ete achete a Chengdu, dans une boutique Merida - Il y a une rue dediee aux magasins de velo, ainsi qu'une boutique Giant dans une autre partie de la ville. Saccoches Merida a 26 euros chacune, casque bell a 35 euro. Si tu passes par cette ville, je te conseille d'aller dans la Guesthouse de Sim pres du temple Wenshu, Sim fait de la randonnee a velo et sa guesthouse est tres sympa.
Si tu veux d'autres infos, n'hesite pas !
On a achete les velo a Pekin. C'etait pas des velos chinois... le mien est un randonneur Giant qu'on a fait reequiper avec du Shimano (freins, derailleurs, axes, pedaliers... ) On l'a trouve dans un magasin Giant sur Jiaodaokou Dajie. Il y a pas mal d'autres magasins dans la ville mais dans celui ci, ils etaient competents, adorables, patients, et l'une des vendeuses parle un peu anglais. Ils ont aussi un bon stock de pieces de rechange. J'ai paye le velo 1900 yuans (environ 190 euros), les pieces 1200 yuans (120 euros). Tu dois pouvoir voir le velo sur le site de Giant chine - quand il est pas en derangement...
Les saccoches et les casques ont ete achete a Chengdu, dans une boutique Merida - Il y a une rue dediee aux magasins de velo, ainsi qu'une boutique Giant dans une autre partie de la ville. Saccoches Merida a 26 euros chacune, casque bell a 35 euro. Si tu passes par cette ville, je te conseille d'aller dans la Guesthouse de Sim pres du temple Wenshu, Sim fait de la randonnee a velo et sa guesthouse est tres sympa.
Si tu veux d'autres infos, n'hesite pas !
Bonjour Claire,
je me permets de revenir sur ton mail concernant ton voyage en Chine. J'aurais en effet besoin de qques informations alors si tu peux maider grâce à ton experience ce serait super pour moi!!!!
Je pars début août entre copines à Hong Kong, on va rendre visite pendant plus de 3 semaines à une amie en échange là-bas. On souhaiterait également aller au Vietnam mais quand on a vu les prix des billets d'avion, on sest dit que cétait un peu au dessus de notre budget. Je sais qu'il y a pas mal de trains. J'en ai d'ailleurs trouvé un jusqu'à la ville de Nanning. Mais sais tu si il y en a un entre Nanning et Hanoi ou une autre ville du vietnam. Ou connais tu un autre moyen d'aller de Hong-Kong (ou chine proche) au Vietnam?
Merci d'avance pour ton aide et tes informations
je me permets de revenir sur ton mail concernant ton voyage en Chine. J'aurais en effet besoin de qques informations alors si tu peux maider grâce à ton experience ce serait super pour moi!!!!
Je pars début août entre copines à Hong Kong, on va rendre visite pendant plus de 3 semaines à une amie en échange là-bas. On souhaiterait également aller au Vietnam mais quand on a vu les prix des billets d'avion, on sest dit que cétait un peu au dessus de notre budget. Je sais qu'il y a pas mal de trains. J'en ai d'ailleurs trouvé un jusqu'à la ville de Nanning. Mais sais tu si il y en a un entre Nanning et Hanoi ou une autre ville du vietnam. Ou connais tu un autre moyen d'aller de Hong-Kong (ou chine proche) au Vietnam?
Merci d'avance pour ton aide et tes informations
Bonjour
Le train qui va de Beijing a Hanoi passe par Nanning. (je l'ai pris dans l'autre sens pour revenir a Pekin depuis le Vietnam en janvier dernier). Il faut environ 12 heures pour faire le trajet entre Nanning et Hanoi, avec changement de train a la frontiere (facile, il n'y a qu'à suivre les douaniers). Pour te donner une idee du prix, le trajet Hanoi/Beijing coutait 80 euro environ. Je pense que le citis a Paris pourra te donner des infos sur les horaires et les tarifs.
On peut aussi passer la frontiere par voie terrestre a Ping Xiang. On l'a fait à velo mais ca se fait par d'autres moyens. De Nanning il y a des trains jusqu'à Ping Xiang. Une fois en ville, on peut affreter une sorte de moto rickshaw pour aller jusqu'à la frontière au col de l'amitié, les chauffeurs se proposent spontanement et comme partout en Chine il faut negocier le tarif. On peut ensuite passer la frontiere a pied et j'imagine que cote vietnamien, on peut aussi trouver une moto pour aller jusqu'à la ville de Lang Son distante de quelques kilometres. De la, si tu veux aller a Hanoi, il y a un train, celui qui vient de Nanning... Je ne sais pas si c'est vraiment plus avantageux financierement de passer par la frontiere terrestre (nous on l'a fait parce qu'on etait à vélo). Ca prend plus de temps que le train depuis Nanning mais ca te permet de passer dans des plus petites villes de Chine et du Vietnam, pour voir un peu comment on y vit. A voir en fonction de vos envies, du temps dont vous disposez, du budget...
Fais attention aussi a la question des visas. Tu n'en as pas besoin pour aller a Hong Kong mais il en faut un pour la Chine, facile a trouver a Hong Kong. Il y a par ailleurs un consulat vietnamien a Nanning qui en novembre dernier nous a delivre un visa d'un mois en une petite semaine.
Si tu as besoin d'autres infos, n'hesite pas !
Claire
Tout depend du type de velo que tu veux. Ca demarre a 150 ou 200 yuans (+/-15/20 euro) pour un velo de ville chinois de base et ca va jusqu'à 8000 ou 9000 yuans (+/- 800 / 900 euro) pour les vtt haute gamme de chez giant. Avec tous les possibles au milieu.
Pour info, a Pekin on peut louer un velo pour 10 yuans par jour.
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Could you give me a recent opinion on this? We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help, and have a great Sunday!
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient). But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this? We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help, and have a great Sunday!
Hi there,
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Thanks
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Thanks
Hi everyone,
For traveling in Rajasthan by train and bus, could you give me some info: where to buy tickets, cost, purchase locations, websites, etc.?
Any tips you have would be super helpful.
Thanks
Hi there,
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us. I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com. Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend? Are the tickets changeable?
Thanks for your help!
Nicole
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us. I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com. Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend? Are the tickets changeable?
Thanks for your help!
Nicole
Hi everyone,
I’m planning to travel from Ulaanbaatar to Irkutsk by train this summer but I’m a bit worried about crossing the borders. How does it work? Could anyone share their experience? (I’ve found quite a few accounts of people going *from* Russia *to* Mongolia, but entering a country is never the same as leaving it—especially in this context!)
Thanks in advance! 😊
Thanks in advance! 😊
Hi
Can anyone tell me how to book train tickets online? We're planning to travel from HANOI to HO CHI MINH CITY by train, making several stops along the way. I'd also like to find the schedules and the stations where the trains stop.
There are four of us, and we've already planned stops in HANOI / DONG HOI / HUE.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!
Mounette74
Can anyone tell me how to book train tickets online? We're planning to travel from HANOI to HO CHI MINH CITY by train, making several stops along the way. I'd also like to find the schedules and the stations where the trains stop.
There are four of us, and we've already planned stops in HANOI / DONG HOI / HUE.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!
Mounette74
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Japan for the second time with my 20-year-old son. During our first trip, we spent two weeks in Tokyo and Kyoto (plus the surrounding areas). This time, we’re planning to stay in Tokyo for at least 4-5 days and then head to the island of Naoshima. I’m looking for suggestions and advice: Is getting to Naoshima from Tokyo complicated? If so, do you have any recommendations for a stopover somewhere? Given that we’d prefer not to move every day, we’d rather settle in one place and then explore on day trips... Do you think it’s possible to do something like this: 5 nights in Tokyo (Shinjuku) 3 nights in Kyoto 2 nights in Naoshima (or is one night enough??) and if one night is enough, where could I spend a second night on the way back to Tokyo? 2 nights in Tokyo (I’d love your advice on staying in a different neighborhood—last time we stayed near Ueno Park)—keeping in mind we’re flying out of Narita.
I’m considering maybe skipping Kyoto, which I love but has apparently become *very* touristy... Not really keen on Osaka... since we’ll already have done Tokyo as our "big city." I’d prefer towns where nature is present... (a bit like Kyoto, which offers all that...)
For info, we’ll be traveling by train. Thanks in advance for all your suggestions and help!
I have one last little question: Is cash still widely used in Japan, or not at all anymore?
Thanks so much,
Karine
I’m heading to Japan for the second time with my 20-year-old son. During our first trip, we spent two weeks in Tokyo and Kyoto (plus the surrounding areas). This time, we’re planning to stay in Tokyo for at least 4-5 days and then head to the island of Naoshima. I’m looking for suggestions and advice: Is getting to Naoshima from Tokyo complicated? If so, do you have any recommendations for a stopover somewhere? Given that we’d prefer not to move every day, we’d rather settle in one place and then explore on day trips... Do you think it’s possible to do something like this: 5 nights in Tokyo (Shinjuku) 3 nights in Kyoto 2 nights in Naoshima (or is one night enough??) and if one night is enough, where could I spend a second night on the way back to Tokyo? 2 nights in Tokyo (I’d love your advice on staying in a different neighborhood—last time we stayed near Ueno Park)—keeping in mind we’re flying out of Narita.
I’m considering maybe skipping Kyoto, which I love but has apparently become *very* touristy... Not really keen on Osaka... since we’ll already have done Tokyo as our "big city." I’d prefer towns where nature is present... (a bit like Kyoto, which offers all that...)
For info, we’ll be traveling by train. Thanks in advance for all your suggestions and help!
I have one last little question: Is cash still widely used in Japan, or not at all anymore?
Thanks so much,
Karine
Hi everyone,
We’re planning this *very* last-minute—I know! But we’d love to spend 4 days soon (within the next 10–12 days) on a city getaway with our young adult kids. Ideally by train, and for this short trip, we’d prefer not to spend more than 4–6 hours in transit, leaving from Lausanne (Switzerland). We’ve been considering Milan, Strasbourg, or Freiburg im Breisgau, but I’ll admit I’m feeling a bit lost...
Venice was our original plan, but the connection changes in Domodossola or Milan are making the travel time longer this year.
It’s peak summer, so there’ll be tourists and it’ll likely be hot, but oh well...
Any suggestions? We love wandering around, taking photos, exploring cities on foot, trying out restaurants, and keeping things low-key.
Thanks to anyone who wants to chime in! :o)
We’re planning this *very* last-minute—I know! But we’d love to spend 4 days soon (within the next 10–12 days) on a city getaway with our young adult kids. Ideally by train, and for this short trip, we’d prefer not to spend more than 4–6 hours in transit, leaving from Lausanne (Switzerland). We’ve been considering Milan, Strasbourg, or Freiburg im Breisgau, but I’ll admit I’m feeling a bit lost...
Venice was our original plan, but the connection changes in Domodossola or Milan are making the travel time longer this year.
It’s peak summer, so there’ll be tourists and it’ll likely be hot, but oh well...
Any suggestions? We love wandering around, taking photos, exploring cities on foot, trying out restaurants, and keeping things low-key.
Thanks to anyone who wants to chime in! :o)