Bonjour,
On va peut être faire un voyage de 3/4 semaines en Chine à l'automne avec ma famille. On ne connait pas du tout ce pays.
J'aimerais avoir l'avis de connaisseurs sur la relative "facilité" de ce voyage, sachant qu'on a déjà pas mal voyagé, toujours par nous même avec nos sacs à dos. Par exemple, par rapport à l'Inde, c'est plus compliqué, ou du même ordre, par exemple niveau hygiène, bruit, fatigue des transports, etc... C'est surtout pour savoir à quoi s'attendre et pouvoir prévoir pour nos enfants.
Sinon quel budget prévoir environ par jour pour 2 adultes, hébergement en chambre simple mais propre (guest house, auberge de jeunesse, petit hotel), bouffe simple, transports en commun, etc;;;
Merci d'avance !
il est plus difficile de voyager en chine qu'en inde a cause de la barriere de la langue. je vous conseille d'acheter un phrasebook avant d'y aller.
Dans un guesthouse, il faut prevoir autour de 70 yuans en dortoir dans les grandes villes.
Le budget repas, disons qu'on peut manger qque chose pour 2/3 euros
Le transport ne coute pas cher surtout le taxi.
Et pour le train demandé a votre hotel de les acheter car cé un peu compliqué (les billets ne s'achetent que de la ville de depart)
Merci pou les infos
Et quel est le prix des chambres doubles petit budget ?
Sinon, en terme de "fatigue" ? L'inde, c'est facile au niveau logistique, mais ça peut parfois être épuisant (bruit, etc...) pour nos petiotes (qui n'auront pas à gérer la logistique !)
pour un ptit hotel il faudra prevoir autour de 20/25 euros la chambre.
qu'estce que vous appeler logistique?
ah oui! j'ai oublié de vous dire que l'hygienne en chine ce n'est pas ca donc il faudra faire attention surtout si vous avez un estomac ou un corps fragile.
Tout a fait d accord avec nemo.
La Chine est nettement plus cher que l'Inde. Les chinois sont plus réservés dans les premiers contacts. La conduite est moins dangereuse qu'en Indes sans être parfaite non plus.
Les chinois ne sont pas un peuple religieux (du moins pas comme en Indes) ce qui peut être plus relaxant mais la valeur reine qui remplace les shivas, vishnu, brahmas, allahs, bouddhas et consorts est l'argent, ce qui peut être tout aussi fatiguant.
Pour l'hygiène c‘est comparable plutôt déplorable en dehors de l'hygiène personelle et des foyers.
La Chine est un pays dans l'ensemble bien plus à l'occidentale que l'Indes. Exception faite du Ganzhou je trouve aussi que les chinois chercheront moins à arnaquer le touriste de passage qu'en Indes. En tout cas pour ma propre expérience.
Le plus exotique et différent reste la langue, à la fois belle et nécessaire à utiliser.
Parti le mardi 8 mai 2007 de Roissy à 18h55 par le vol AF 126, je suis arrivé à Pekin le 9 vers 11h30.
Mercredi 9 mai Pekin - 14 millions d'hab.
Je change des Euros pour des Yuans environ 10 yuans pour 1 euro. Facile ! il suffira de diviser par 10.
Puis je prends un bus navette pour rejoindre une station de métro ( Chaoyangmen). Métro facile. A la sortie (Hepingmen) je prends un cyclo pousse qui m'emmène à l'hotel que j'avais repéré sur le Routard. Bien situé le Far East Hotel and Youth Hostel est à 20 mn de la place Tian'anmen dans un quartier de hutong. La nuit est à 45 Y en chambre de 4. Il est très propre, très bien tenu. Il dispose d'un buffet en libre service pour le petit dej à 35 Y et l'accès à internet est gratuit.
Après avoir posé mon sac je file à pied vers Tian'anmen. Immense, grande émotion.
Jeudi 10 mai Pekin
Visite de la Cité interdite 60 Y. J'y passe de nombreuses heures. Beaucoup plus grand que je ne l'imaginais. Je ne rate aucun batiment, aucune cour, je me perds presque dans ce dédale de passages. Je m'imagine le temps où il y avait là jusqu'à 20 000 eunuques au service de l'empereur.
Je resors par la porte nord pour rejoindre ensuite "la" rue piétonne de Pekin avec ses grands magasins.
Vendredi 11 mai Pekin
Lever 6h. Bus pour Simatai à 110 kms de Pekin arrivée vers 11h. Ici la Grande muraille est plus sauvage, plus authentique. Il n'y a presque pas de touristes. Il faut gravir la montagne pour atteindre la Muraille qui se trouve sur les crètes. J'utilise un télébenne pour réduire une partie de la montèe. Des tours de guets, des à-pics impressionnants, un régal pour les yeux. Petit rappel, elle fait 6 700 km, commencée au 7ème siècle avant JC mais édifièe en briques au 14eme siècle, elle était défendue par 1 million de soldats.
Retour à Pekin en fin de journée.
Samedi 12 mai Pekin
Visite du Temple duCiel, symbole de Pekin.
Visite de la gare Centrale.
Puis je me rends en métro au nord de la ville pour une balade au bord des lacs. Super endroit.
Dimanche 13 mai Pekin
Je loue un vélo pour 10 Y. Je traverse la ville pour aller au nord des lacs, silloner les hutongs, visiter les tours de la Cloche et celle du Tambour, visiter le Temple des Lamas, me rendre au marché aux puces de Panjiayuan, et parcourir d'autres hutongs au retour.
Lundi 14 mai Pekin
Je me rends en bus n° 726 au départ de Qianmen vers le Palais d'été situé à une vingtaine de km de Pekin. Environ 1h de bus pour 2 Y. L'entrée est de 30 Y. Il fait très chaud, aussi la fraicheur relative de l'ombre des arbres et de l'eau du lac est elle appréciable. C'est un vrai parc pour empereur. J'ai aimé.
Mardi 15 mai Pekin
Temps couvert. Le mausolé de Mao est fermé pour plusieurs mois pour réfection. Rues piètonnes, shopping. Visite de la Colline de Charbon, au nord de la Cité interdite avec vue sur celle-ci.
Mercredi 16 mai Pekin-Datong
Je prends un taxi (27 Y) pour me rendre à la gare de l'Ouest (Xizhan) pour prendre le train K613 de 10h14 pour Datong (56 Y) en place assise.
Arrivée vers 17h. Feitian Hotel près de la gare à 35 Y la nuit en chambre de 4.
Resto avec un jeune instit chinois de 27 ans avec qui j'ai fait commaissance dans le train. C'est lui qui paye la bière.
Jeudi 17 mai Datong - 3 millions d'hab.
Vent fort.
Aujourd'hui visite des grottes de Yungang. A 1 h en bus le 4 puis le 3 pour 2, 5 Y.
Entrée 60 Y. 21 grottes, des milliers de statues de Bouddhas dont certaines de plus de 15 mètres.
Au retour visite de la ville, sans grand intéret.
Vendredi 18 mai Datong
Balade dans la ville jusqu'au soir.
Train 2463 à 22h56 en couchette pour 75 Y
Samedi 19 mai Pingyao - 50 000 hab.
Arrivée vers 7h30
Jiinjinglou Hotel au pied de la tour du marché qui ce trouve en plein centre de la ville. 110 Y pour 2 nuits en chambre seul. Ville classée par l'Unesco. Ceinte de 6 km de remparts très bien conservés, et remplie de vieilles maisons à visiter pour 120 Y. Nombreux achats car ici le choix est grand et les prix tout petits.
Dimanche 20 mai Pingyao
Visite de la ville.
Lundi 21 mai Pingyao
Visite de la ville, suite.
20h06 train 2535 pour Xian pour 39 Y en place assise non réservèe. Trajet mémorable au milieu des chinois, fumant comme des pompiers dans un wagon bondé.
Mardi 22 mai Xian
Arrivé vers 8h45, je choisi un hotel près de la gare. Le Xian Ludao Bin Guan a des chambres à 160 Y. Salle de bain, tèlé, clim tout compris. Aussitot installé je retourne place de la gare d'où je prends un bus le 306 et pour 7 Y je me rends à Bingmayong voir l'armée enterrée des soldats en terre cuite.
Entrée 90 Y. Grandiose ! Plusieurs sites, plusieurs niveaux de conservation, mais toujours beaucoup d'émotion. Ils sont des centaines et là depuis 22 siècles.
Ensuite visite de Xi'an.
Mercredi 23 mai Xi'an - 7 millions d'hab.
Pluie
J'achète un jean pour 140 Y et continue la visite de la ville.
Le soir, le train T140 part à 19h53. Je suis en couchette (323 Y).
Jeudi 24 mai Shanghai - 18 millions d'hab.
Arrivée vers 11h45
Très chaud. Métro 3 Y. Hiker Youth Hostel, à 2 pas de Nanjing Road. 50 Y la nuit en chambre de 6.
Balade rue de Nankin, "la" rue piètonne de Shanghai. Le Bund, Promenade sur les bords de la rivière Huangpu.
Vendredi 25 mai Shanghai
Balade dans l'ancienne concession française.
H&M comme à Bordeaux
Le parc Fuxing
La Place du Peuple
Samedi 26 mai Shanghai
Métro ligne 2 jusqu'à Longyang Rd où l'on trouve le magasin Décathlon. Le mème qu'en France mais à petits prix.
Retour en métro pour monter dans la 4ème plus haute tour du monde (420 mètres) 70 Y
Assenseur à 9 mètres/s. 88 ème étage. Vue panoramique impressionante.
Traversée de la rivière en ferry 1 Y.
Dimanche 27 mai Shanghai
Visite de la vieille ville chinoise, ses marchés.
A midi je mange les meilleurs raviolis de Chine (16 pour 10 Y).
Rencontre de deux gay chinois avec qui je vais boire un verre.
Lundi 28 mai Shanghai
Train Maglev (Magnétique lévitation) pour 40 Y je file à 431 km/h vers l'aéroport.
Vol AF 115 en A340-600 assuré par Chinaeastern à 23h55.
Mardi 29 mai 2007 Roissy
Arrivée vers 6h30, après 13 h de vol.
7h39 TGV arrivée Bordeaux 11h56.
Budget:
Transport: 69 € pour 2500 km environ en train
Nourriture: 107 € pour 21 jours
Hébergement: 87 € pour 16 nuits
Visites: 156 €
Achats: 160 € pour 9 kg
soit: 2 thès ronds Puer, 2 chapeaux chinois, 1 boucle d'oreille, 1 éventail, 2 paires de chaussettes, 1 grosse boite d'alumettes et 5 petites, 1 paire de pantouffles, 2 ceintures, 2 coussins, 1 broderie sur soie, 1 peigne en corne, 1 rasoir et sa mousse à raser, 1 jean, 1 tasse, 3 thès verts, 1 lampe frontale, 10 timbres, 1 tampon gravé à mon nom, 4 chemins de table en soie, 1 saché de thé au jasmin, 4 boites de thè verts.
Ce n'est pas parce que les choses sont difficiles que nous n'osons pas, c'est parce que nous n'osons pas qu'elles sont difficiles. (Seneque)
🙂Bonjour Je suis assez étonné par les prix des hotels annoncés, ...nous venons de passer 3 mois en chine du sud ouest, nous avons pris 3 fois l' avion sur place et notre budget a été de 39 € / jour pour 2 sans nous priver de rien .
Nous avions toujours des hotels avec salle de bain privée (avec un maximum de prix de 16 € à Kunming avec buffet de petit déjeuner pantagruélique inclus, même à shanghai nous avions un hotel super en plein centre pour 12€ ! mais il faut savoir négocier bien sur ! avec son phrase book et ses mains !!)
Nous dinions tous les soirs dans de bons restaurants ( le midi dans les marchés etc.. ) bref la chine nous a couté moins chere que l'Inde où nous avions passé 9 semaines en 2005
nous racontons notre voyage sur notre blog, mais si tu veux d'autres renseignements n' hésites pas .
L'avion Paris /Hong Kong retour Shanghai /Paris par Finnair nous a couté 600€ .
Donc tout compris le voyage nous est revenu à 2100 € par personne
nous avons adoré
bon voyage
C'est très intéressant ce que vous dites !
A quelle saison avez vous fait ce voyage ?
Je vais regarder votre blog et je reviendrais vous poser plus de questions ensuite ...
🙂 nous sommes partis le 4 janvier, retour le 21 mars . nous avons du changer notre programme initial à cause d'une vague de froid dans le Guizhou "exceptionnelle", mais nous même n'avons que rarement souffert du froid, les températures étaient plut$ot aux alentours de 15 °, sauf le xishuangbanna 25°, et yuangyang très très Froid !!!
Quel plaisir de voyager sans une foule de touriste de plus !
bien vu pour les prix en Chine, par contre pour l'Inde j ai plus de doutes car quand j'y suis allé j'ai franchement trouvé encore bien moins cher qu'ici.
Vous mentionnez des vacances en automne... essayez d'éviter d'être en Chine durant la période où les chinois sont tous en vacances (1ère semaine d'octobre). Les tarifs des hôtels s'en ressentent.
Ah oui ? ça tombe mal alors, parce que je crois qu'on aura pas le choix, ça ce précise pour les 3 premières semaines d'octobre ...
Ils ne sont en vacances qu'une semaine ?
J'aurais vraiment aimé être plutôt "hors saison" ...
😉 C'est exacte, dans les site officiels du tourisme chinois il y a des fourchettes de prix pour les musée par exemple qui varient selon la saison, entre décembre et février, la saison creuse, les prix sont plus bas, alors que dès le mois de mars les prix augmentent.
Xian, Chang'an pour les anciens, est le selon moi le must de ce que peut offrir la Chine en terme de monuments historiques, la visite aux guerriers de Terre cuite est idéal, mais la ville recelle des trésors, comme la tombe du plus grand empereur chinois de la dynastie Tang: Li Shimin (tombeau de Zhaoling de Xian, à ne pas confondre avec un autre que j'ai vue sur un site qui ce trouve dans le Zhejiang), le tombeau de l'empereur Jaune, j'ai même déniché sur un autre site touristique une attraction "Tang Paradise" pour 60 yuan ont peut visité cette reconstitution grandeur nateur de la vie et du charme de la grande dynastie des Tang.
Un conseil, si vous voulez visité la Chine historique Xian c'est l'idéal.
A Shanghai à part Hangzhou dans le nord, il n'y a rien de très passionnant, sauf si l'ont veux ce replongé dans l'atmosphère artificiel des anciennes concessions. mais c'est un juste un avis personnel🤪
Ceux qui renoncent à une liberté fondamentale en échange d’un peu de sécurité temporaire ne méritent ni la sécurité, ni la liberté.
🙂"A Shanghai à part Hangzhou dans le nord, il n'y a rien de très passionnant, sauf si l'ont veux ce replongé dans l'atmosphère artificiel des anciennes concessions. mais c'est un juste un avis personnel "
Pour ma part j'ai adoré flaner dans les rues de Suzhou, et de Tongli (si charmant) le long des canaux et dans ces jardins magnifiques .... "il faut savoir se perdre dans les ruelles de ces petites villes "....... mais ceci est aussi un avis personnel!
ok merci pour les renseignements
Mon cousin est parti en Chine et il me disait qu'avec 700 euros par moi voir un peu plus on s'en sortait, c'est pour ça que je vous demande parce que plus haut ils disent qu'il faut prévoir plus de 1000 euros pour un mois ce qui m'inquiéter un peu.
Merci encore pour vos réponses
Nous avions pris Finnair en passant par Helsinski
pour trouver un bon prix je vous conseille ce site " partirou.com" qui compare les prix des billets sur une semaine aller et une semaine retour ( donc 49 possibilités en un seul clic ), ce qui permet de trouver de très bons prix
Sinon quel budget prévoir environ par jour pour 2 adultes, hébergement en chambre simple mais propre (guest house, auberge de jeunesse, petit hotel), bouffe simple, transports en commun, etc;;;
Bonjour,
Comme vous le savez avec des enfants c'est différents. Il faut être plus organisé et prévoyant qu'à l'ordinaire.
Pour les chambres je vous déconseille les auberges de jeunesses, bruyantes et à la propreté douteuse (il y a des exceptions évidemment...). Un budget de 20-30 euros / nuit me semble nécessaire pour être certain d'avoir des sanitaires privés et une légère insonorisation. Evitez les hôtels situés à un croisement et s'ils vous paraissent bien n'hésitez pas à visiter la chambre pour tester l'insonorisation. Je vous conseille de réserver les chambres des guides touristiques à l'avance par téléphone ; ça évite les mauvaises surprises ou d'arriver devant un hôtel complet. Je ne connais pas la patience de vos enfants mais je ne pense pas qu'il soit facile de les trimballer à droite à gauche à la recherche d'un hôtel, avec toutes les valises en sus.
Autre chose, les p'tits dej. Les brioches à la viandes sallées, les soupes de riz, les nouilles ou les patates douces, ça passe déjà difficilement pour nous, alors quand on a en plus le décallage horaire et la fatigue...
Les hôtels proposant des petits déjeuners "continentaux" se limitent la plupart du temps à quelques gateaux secs et du lait de Soja. Je vous conseille donc d'anticiper et d'acheter des petits pacs de laits et des madelaines/muffins la veille ! (si comme moi vous avez besoin d'une injection matinale de caféïne, profitez-en pour faire le plein également 😇)
Idem pour les transports, même si c'est un peu plus cher, passer par les hôtels garanti d'avoir une place dans le bon bus/train et évite ainsi de devoir chercher les caisses et poiroter à la gare.
Mercredi 16 mai Pekin-Datong
Je prends un taxi (27 Y) pour me rendre à la gare de l'Ouest (Xizhan) pour prendre le train K613 de 10h14 pour Datong (56 Y) en place assise.
Arrivée vers 17h. Feitian Hotel près de la gare à 35 Y la nuit en chambre de 4.
Resto avec un jeune instit chinois de 27 ans avec qui j'ai fait commaissance dans le train. C'est lui qui paye la bière.
On fait toujours des bonnes rencontres dans le train 😉
Dimanche 27 mai Shanghai
Visite de la vieille ville chinoise, ses marchés.
A midi je mange les meilleurs raviolis de Chine (16 pour 10 Y).
Rencontre de deux gay chinois avec qui je vais boire un verre.
Shanghai se "modernise" vraiment vite. Je ne pense pas qu'une telle rencontre soit possible hors de cette ville, ou même seulement 2 ou 3 ans en arrière. Et je ne parle pas de la mode "au plus court !" des chinoises cette année !!
Je me trouve actuellement en Chine, et vais faire un saut en France au mois de septembre. Or, je souhaite ensuite retourner en Chine pour y retrouver ma petite…
Nous partons en Chine en voyage de noce en juin prochain. Nous partons 3 semaines en routard. nous faisons Pékin, Xian, Kunming, Dali, Lijang, Zonghdiang,…
Bonjour à tous
Pour simplifier la logistique, j'envisage de louer une voiture pour passer 5/6 jours dans les alpes japonaises avant d'aller à Kyoto en solo.
La conduite est-elle compliquée voire risquée dans cette région.?
Merci pour vos retours
Tara
We’re arriving as a group of three in Tokyo on Saturday, October 17th, then heading straight to Kyoto by direct train.
On Sunday and Monday, we’ll explore Kyoto, and in the evening, we’ll take a train to Osaka to spend the night.
On Tuesday, we’ll pick up a rental car at Itami Airport for a 6-day/5-night road trip around Shikoku:
- 2 nights in the Iya Valley
- Thursday morning, we’ll head to Matsuyama for 2 nights.
- Saturday, we’ll visit Mima (town, a few temples + overnight stay) and return on Sunday to drop off the car in Osaka.
We’ll leave very early on Monday the 26th by plane for Aomori in northern Honshu, where we’ll pick up another rental car at the airport for a 5-day/4-night trip:
- Day 1: Tsugaru Peninsula (Takayam Inari, Cape Tappi, Kanita); overnight in Kanita
- Day 2: Ferry transfer to the Mutsu Peninsula (cliffs, Lake Usori); overnight in Shimofuro
- Day 3: Head to the Hakkoda Mountains and onsens galore; overnight TBD
- Day 4: Return the car in Aomori by noon and explore the city before taking the train to Tokyo in the evening
We’ll spend Friday night in Tokyo, wander around on Saturday, and head home on Sunday.
Thoughts on the road feasibility of this trip? We’ll be there right in the middle of Koyo season, so it’ll be busy...
I know it’s a lot of driving, but there are two of us who can take turns. We’re not afraid of driving, even in the mountains and on the left side! Just wondering, are we going to be rushing, or is this manageable? AI says it’s all good, but it’s not the one driving...
Any tips for booking accommodations in the Iya Valley? Not many places have email addresses or websites (I know Booking.com exists, but not all listings are on there... and given the season, I think it’s better to book ahead!). Same question applies for northern Honshu.
For the rental car, I’m thinking of going with Alamo since at least it’s in French and straightforward, but are there any direct rental companies with user-friendly websites (Toyota Rentacar, ugh... 🏴☠️)?
Another question: With so many trains, is it even necessary to book them in advance? Can we just go to the ticket counter and grab seats on the spot?
For paying for the rental car, do we need a credit or debit card?
I saw there are several "authentic" villages about 90/100 km from Beijing.
Including: Lingshui, Liuliqu, Sangyu, Miaoying, and Cuandixia.
Has anyone visited any of them? I was thinking of choosing Cuandixia—what do you think?
Thanks in advance.
Hi everyone!
It seems there’s a flea market in Tianjin that’s way more interesting than the one in Beijing. I’ve been searching online but can’t find the right one… The one I’m looking for is called gu wan shi chang (my PC won’t display the Chinese characters…). Does anyone have the address and has anyone been there before? The one in Beijing has lost a lot of its charm over the past 10 years, so I wanted to find another. Thanks!
Hi,
My departure is coming up soon—two months backpacking in Taiwan, so much to discover! I’d love to hear about your travel experiences.
My main interests are meeting people, understanding how things work, hiking, and nature in general. I’ve also done a lot of reading about Taiwan’s complex situation.
I do stone sculpture.
I also want to visit Orchid Island for its history.
Marie
I’m looking for advice from seasoned travelers about a roughly one-month trip to Japan.
From late October to late November 2026.
We often travel in Southeast Asia but have never been to Japan.
Based on what I’ve read, I’d love to hear your thoughts on:
- Is traveling day-to-day, without booking hotels or trains in advance, possible in Japan?
(I’ve read many travel journals and blogs that say everything was booked way in advance… but that’s not how we usually travel.)
- Will the Japan Rail Pass be worth it for us?
(According to an old simulator, I’m looking at around 400 € for trains compared to 570 € for the JRP.)
Here’s our rough itinerary (which may change):
- Arrival Osaka: 3 nights with Nara
- Hiroshima and Miyajima Island: 3 nights
- Kurashiki or Naoshima: 2 nights
- Himeji: 1 night
- Kyoto: 4 nights
- Kanazawa: 2 nights
- Takayama and Shirakawa-go: 3 nights
- Around Mount Fuji: 3 nights
- Tokyo with Nikko: 6 nights (no theme parks)
Departure from Tokyo
Here are some tips from our 6-week trip (summer 2026) to China, Vietnam, and Cambodia. We traveled as a family of four with two kids aged 15 and 12.
I hope these notes help other travelers!
CHINA
General
You’ll need to download and set up a few apps:
- Alipay and WeChat for payments (I didn’t withdraw a single bill the entire trip)
- Didi for taxis
- Amap = Chinese Maps (works great, especially for subways)
- A translation app (we used Papago, but it sometimes gave weird results)
- Google Lens for translating menus or signs—super handy.
- HelloRide for bikes
- Gemini and ChatGPT for everything: understanding daily life, enhancing visits, checking the weather, finding things.
- HomeExchange if you want to lower travel costs (few listings in Asia except in big cities, often expats)
- Trip.com is very useful, even essential, for trains, domestic flights, and hotels. Like Booking.com, the more you book with them, the more perks you get. So I’d even suggest checking flight tickets on this site, even if it’s a bit pricier. However, buying train tickets is complicated because (1) they only open 15 days in advance, and (2) they sell out fast. Trip.com just promises to buy them as soon as they’re available but doesn’t always succeed. It’s stressful and might force you to change your plans, especially if you’re aiming for a sleeper car and there are no seats left. Watch out for station names—many cities have multiple stations, including a high-speed rail one outside the city.
For internet, we got the Asia plan from Holafly. It worked but seemed much slower than Chinese internet. I regretted not buying a Chinese SIM card because without internet in China, everything is VERY complicated (money, transport, etc.).
For the firewall, we used ExpressVPN, but it wasn’t always reliable. A bit disappointing. Ask ChatGPT for tips with screenshots to improve the settings.
Since we only had one SIM card with internet, we couldn’t rent shared bikes. If I were to do it again, I’d get a SIM for each person, even the kids, because distances in cities are huge. We walked *a lot*. Same goes for buses—it’s tricky with just one internet connection. Better to have a phone per person with internet.
Book your visits as far in advance as possible—they often sell out.
Watch out for power banks: if they don’t explicitly say "3C," they’ll confiscate it. Even if there’s a little airplane logo.
Shanghai
In the evening, the streets leading to the Bund from the metro were so crowded that police were out in force blocking roads. Arrive early. We went around the north side.
Suzhou
Be careful—there are two stations (common in China), and the high-speed rail one is 45–50 minutes from the old town.
The Humble Administrator’s Garden was *packed*—we don’t recommend it. It turned into a marathon day from Shanghai (almost 4 hours from our hotel to the garden).
Beijing
Forbidden City: Don’t go—I know it’s a shame, but it’s too crowded. I couldn’t buy tickets on the official site because of the kids’ passports. We ended up with a guided tour, the only way to get in (tickets sell out fast). The visit was disappointing—bad guide *and* massive crowds. You’ll queue a lot to enter and see certain areas. You’ll be checked often, so pack your bags carefully.
Great Wall at Mutianyu: Crowded. Two hours by bus, and even though we arrived early, people were already leaving! I really think the best option is to leave your big bags in Beijing and stay overnight near the Wall. That way, you’ll have it to yourself a bit more. For transport: get off at Tiananmen Square metro and look for buses with official guides in bright yellow-green vests. No need to buy tickets online—they made me cancel mine to rebook on the spot. Buses leave when full. Note: the cable car and chairlift are separate—if you want to go up one side and down the other, you’ll need different tickets. The endless queue for the toboggan ride put us off.
Quick tip: Incredible swimming spot in Beijing—on the north shore of Houhai Lake, you can swim by crossing the barrier. We did it twice with about ten other people. Bring a swimsuit!
Shapotou Desert
Amazing, but it gets *very* hot in the afternoon. We had a tent (not an air-conditioned bungalow), which was unbearable during the day. We hung out in the restaurant.
The paid activities are fun, except the camels—they look sad. The real highlight is the evening and sunset. The only downside: you can’t explore the desert alone or far—they don’t rent 4x4s, for example.
We stayed at "The Desert Camping Hotel of the Proprietress of Shapotou." They were lovely.
Zhongwei
Gaomiao Temple and its underground: Fun and short—you’ll see quirky Buddhist hell paintings.
Xi’an
Terracotta Army: We took a Didi because for four people, a car was almost the same price as four shuttle tickets. It was packed—chaotic to see properly.
We visited the halls in order: 3, 2, then 1—a good choice.
Hua Shan Mountains: Left before sunrise to arrive when the ticket office opened (7 AM, I think). We were shocked to see so many people already coming down.
45 minutes by bus to the west cable car, then 15 minutes up.
We did the west, south, east, central, then north peaks (in that order) before taking the other cable car down (you can buy the ticket at the top). A beautiful day.
In the city, check out...
Chengdu
Panda Research Center: Like Hua Shan, plan to arrive when the ticket office opens. Already *tons* of people, and it moves fast to see the big pandas before their nap. Have them drop you at the west entrance (not south), or you’ll have to walk uphill.
Leshan Giant Buddha: Interesting. The trip is a bit long (metro, then train, then city bus, then shuttle on-site). We didn’t take the boat option but walked. In the end, you only spend a few minutes at the Buddha’s feet, but it’s a nice day out.
Hotel tip: Panda Enjoy Home Hotel Apartments (Chengdu East Railway Station Dongda Road Branch). The view is insane, and the neighborhood is super convenient and nice. 646 CNY for 2 nights.
Swimming: The municipal pool is an interesting experience, but don’t expect to swim—no one does. Everyone just splashes around where they can stand. The hours are a bit odd, with a break in the late afternoon.
Kunming
The bike path along Dian Lake is pretty and often well-protected from cars. But like everywhere in China, it’s *packed*. Not much to say about visits—the flower market is a wholesale market, not very interesting. The ethnic minorities museum closed right in front of us.
All the big malls are good for shopping.
Dali
We thought we could bike around the lake in two days. Wrong on two counts: First, the lake’s edge is blocked to traffic and reserved for bikes (or tourist mini-buses). So you’re stuck on the main road, which never gives you a view of the lake, with all the trucks and cars. Doing 120 km like that wouldn’t make sense, in our opinion. The rice fields around are nice but not as impressive as elsewhere, so Dali isn’t worth it for that.
The old town, all restored, is pretty but *packed*—thousands of people, especially in the evening.
Hekou (Vietnam border)
Comfortable train from Kunming. In the parking lot, a bus (not well-marked, but Didi is an option) takes you to the border in 15–20 minutes. Short wait at both border posts. Fun to see the two lampposts near the border line: the Chinese one is new, modern, with a surveillance camera (of course), while the Vietnamese one is old and a bit rusty.
VIETNAM
General:
- You’ll need the Grab app for taxis
- Very disappointed with 12Go—it doesn’t show all buses, never connects you with the company, and refuses refunds. Try booking directly with companies like FUTA Bus instead.
- Credit cards are often accepted (supermarkets and modern stores), otherwise, you’ll need cash
Lao Cai
2 km between the border and the train station.
The sleeper bus to Hanoi with Sao Viet is well-organized—it works.
Hanoi
Ho Chi Minh Mausoleum closes early (10:30 AM, I think).
Women’s Museum: Very good, not too long
Temple of Literature: Beautiful, fairly quick
This is where you should buy souvenirs, clothes, and knockoffs—the prices are reasonable, and the sellers are nicer than elsewhere. We recommend Cho Dong Xuan.
Tu Long Bay
We did 2 days, 1 night (so really 24 hours on the boat) with Parfum d’Automne (French-speaking agency), which put us on a Cycad Cruise boat. Cost: 300 € per person—expensive, but it was amazing, super luxurious, and the buffet meals were delicious. We don’t regret the splurge. The only downside: no swimming in the bay (but there’s a pool on the boat). To swim, you’d need a 3-day, 2-night trip to an area not protected by the maritime park.
Phong Nha
If you didn’t do the northern mountains due to time or weather (like us), Phong Nha is a great stop for a motorbike ride. It’s beautiful, especially the mountains west of the city toward the caves.
There are two (small) swimming spots at the Botanic Garden—a pleasant 45-minute walk without stops.
Hotel tip: Sunbeam Village (very friendly, pool, breakfast by the river, motorbike rentals)
Da Nang
Hotel tip: Meridians by Hsuite—you’ll have the beach almost to yourself. You’ll still need to walk 15–20 minutes to the hyper-touristy area if you want to rent surfboards (150–200k VND per hour).
The beach is beautiful, and the water is 30°C—great for a break on a long trip, especially since all transport goes through Da Nang.
Hoi An
45 minutes from Da Nang, so it’s easy to visit in a day, especially since the city isn’t that big and it’s *very* hot.
Cooking class: MS Hanh cooking class—great (the market tour is a bit useless). We don’t recommend the "basket boat" tour—it’s a bit sad on a big brown pond with elderly guides.
Ho Chi Minh City
Ben Thanh Market is a nightmare: starting prices are exorbitant, and the vendors are aggressive. Don’t go.
The War Remnants Museum can be really tough for kids.
Can Tho
Avoid this city. We made the mistake of going to see the floating market—don’t.
Chau Doc
No Grab in the city, but regular taxis.
One day is enough if you go early to the forest and the mountain in the late afternoon.
250k VND per person for the forest and its canals (45 minutes by motorbike)
The sunset at Victoria Nui Sam can be magnificent if the clouds cooperate.
Cheap and good restaurant: Quan Nem Nuong Sau Hiep
Hotel tip: Homestay Khoa (2,250,000 VND for 3 nights)—adorable hostess, full of tips, clean rooms.
The speedboat to Cambodia is more comfortable than a bus. Book with Hangchau a few days in advance—payment in cash on the day (1,640,000 đ).
CAMBODIA
General:
- Issues with the "Bakong Tourists" app—we had to go to a big bank to load money onto it. We barely used it afterward.
Phnom Penh
For us, a day and a half is enough if you want to spend more time elsewhere.
Markets close early (around 6 PM) and are less interesting than in Hanoi, for example.
The Royal Palace has a break from 11 AM to 2 PM, but there aren’t many people in the afternoon.
Siem Reap
Trip with Capitol company—the bus is basic but cheap. Departs at 10:15 AM, 7-hour ride.
Angkor entrance fee: 62 USD per person for a 3-day pass. Tickets are picked up at Angkor Enterprise.
Renting two 125cc motorbikes: 10 USD each, plus 7 USD for gas.
By bike, it took me 25 minutes to reach Angkor Wat’s pools. A basic city bike rental was 1 USD per hour.
Short circuit by motorbike (in reverse): 7 hours with stops everywhere.
Grand tour by tuk-tuk: Only 5 temples, 4.5 hours.
If you want to see lots of monkeys, they’re grouped west of Bayon.
For the temples, we asked Gemini (AI) at each stop to point out details that might interest kids (who can get bored with the repetition). It gave fun facts and things to look for—great for the little ones.
Hotel tip: The Five Senses, run by a Frenchman, Bruno, who knows Cambodia inside out and organizes tours.
Restaurant tip: Wild (only spring rolls, but *so* many varieties—delicious and cheap)
Watch out: 1 hour to the airport, 50 km from the city.
Show tip: The Phare Circus
I booked my trip from May 5 to 26, 2027. I’m starting to plan my itinerary and look for hotels (I know it’s early!). While I’ve found some in Seoul and Busan, I’m noticing that elsewhere—like Yeosu—most hotels aren’t available (on Booking.com, for example, almost all are unavailable). AI tells me not to worry because hotels in South Korea only open bookings 6 months in advance, so it’s normal to see most of them unavailable on booking sites.
Could you confirm this for me and, of course, reassure me (!)? Thanks so much.
philippe
We’re back from a one-month trip to China and wanted to share our itinerary. Hopefully, this can give future travelers some ideas for exploring this beautiful country.
Beijing → Temple of Heaven / Forbidden City
Jinshanling → Great Wall
Zhangjiajie → Tianmen Mountain and Heaven’s Gate
Wulingyuan → Avatar Mountains / sandstone pillars
Fenghuang → riverside houses
Ping’an → terraced rice fields
Tiantouzhai → village / rice terraces
Yangshuo → Li River / karst mountains
Shanghai → skyline with the Oriental Pearl Tower
Our travel journal is available on our travel journal, written day by day. You’ll find lots of photos and some travel tips there.
I’m starting to look at neighborhoods in Seoul, and I’m leaning toward staying in a hotel in Insa-Dong—I’ve spotted one really close to Unhyeongung.
Is this a good area—nice and convenient for exploring the city?
Otherwise, I’ve also found another hotel in Yongsan-Gu, right near the station of the same name. Is that station useful for getting around Seoul?
Since I’ll be in South Korea for nearly two months, I plan to spend at least a week in Seoul to recover from jet lag (it takes me a while to adjust...). So, I’d love a neighborhood that’s pleasant and a hotel not too far from a subway station.
Hi there,
I’d like to do this cycling route over 2 or 3 days. I’m struggling to figure out and find a (good) bike rental that lets me start in Onomichi and drop off in Imabari. Can anyone help with great tips for rentals and accommodations along the route? How do I get back to Onomichi afterward?
Next year, we’re celebrating 20 years of marriage (and travel 🙂), and we’re looking for something new, pretty legendary, and something the teens will enjoy too.
The family council has settled on Japan for now. And it’d have to be a summer trip—no choice there.
The catch: I keep reading that August isn’t the right season for southern Japan. It’s hot, humid, and there’s a risk of typhoons… Okay, but what does that *actually* mean in practice? Are there any travelers who’ve been there during this time? Is it *that* unbearable?
We’re pretty familiar with Southeast Asia—last year, we dealt with scorching heat in Vietnam and insane humidity, plus a typhoon we experienced from a distance, and visiting Angkor in the blazing sun. Is it worse than that?
I’m back with my detailed itinerary for 20 days in South Korea—it’s my first trip to the country. Our idea is to experience a more rural and cultural Korea. Here’s the rough plan: Seoul for 4 nights at the start and 1 night at the end, Gurye for 4 nights, Suncheon for 4 nights, Namhae for 4 nights, and Gyeongju for 2 nights. The goal is to pick a base and explore the surrounding areas. What do you think of this itinerary? Anything you’d change?
thanks
hi everyone, we're heading out for a 12-day trek in the Japanese Alps. We're bringing freeze-dried meals like we always do. We just found out that importing meat is banned, even freeze-dried. Is that true? We already bought them. They're commercially made freeze-dried meals. Online, it's not specified that they have to be "commercially made" because you can make your own freeze-dried food. And since we've heard they're really strict in Japan, can anyone confirm this for us? thanks
I haven’t found what I’m looking for despite my searches!
For a 15-day trip next spring, I’d like to buy a card (preferably an eSIM, but a physical SIM is fine too) that also lets me make calls in the country (to contact a hotel, a tourist spot, etc.).
You can easily find options just for data, but I haven’t come across any that include calls, texts, or even MMS.
Could you recommend something?
hi there
I’m planning a trip in September—here’s my rough itinerary. What do you think? Is it easy to rent a car to get around between my stops? Thanks so much!
Philippe
StopNightsFull daysSeoul44Gurye (Jirisan)43Suncheon43Namhae43Gyeongju21Seoul1—
Hi,
July 2026: I’m writing to you from Dali.
First, I got scammed on Booking—AI-retouched photos. No tourists at this hotel (Yishanju Designer Hotel), and the reality was horrible: dirty, with a disgusting breakfast. It’s better to use Trip.com here.
Next, the old town was an infernal cacophony, packed with tourists who shoved past without a care. Some vendors harassed you to buy things. All the stalls sold the same cheap plastic junk or other uninteresting stuff. The beautiful scenery was ruined by vendors lining 100% of the alleys. Impossible to walk, crushing heat, nothing good to eat except fresh fruit. Horrible experience.
Day 2: We went to Cangshan Mountain by cable car—the ride was short and nothing spectacular. We were at 2,600 m.
My plan was to see Erhai Lake. Unfortunately, I followed the advice of an AI chatbot: take the boat at Langkan Dock. The Didi dropped us off in the nearest area, which was full of charming little alleys but packed with Chinese tourists. The three-wheeled yellow cabs zoomed through the narrow streets, forcing you to hug the walls, on top of the scooters and other pedestrians to deal with. Crossing the neighborhood was hellish and suffocating. Once out, we hit the "corniche," which was also packed with Chinese tourists. The lake’s edge was all pebbles, and everyone was standing around taking photos. I was with my 5-year-old son. I would’ve liked to sit down and let him play with stones by the water, but it was clear we didn’t belong. They were even shoving each other for a shot! There were no boats in sight. In short, we’d had enough, and there was nothing interesting there either.
On the way back, we had to cross that maze again under the scorching sun. My son was braver than me—I even had a little dizzy spell from all the chaos. Add to that Dali’s altitude (2,200 m), so altitude insomnia, fatigue, and vulnerability during the day...
The restaurants weren’t inviting—the staff served sticky rice in a little bucket. The dishes were wrapped, and you had to figure it out yourself. After that, they ignored you completely, even if you were the only tourist.
On the 3rd day, it was time to leave for Shaxi. I hope to see beautiful villages. But honestly, I’m exhausted by this atmosphere where everything is complicated, communication is never smooth, noise is everywhere, and the behavior of some Chinese people is abusive...
Silver lining: not a drop of rain in 4 days and blue skies.
I couldn’t visit the villages in southern Yunnan because of rain and storms there...
But I was expecting to see a few more tourists.
We’re planning a 17-day trip to South Korea in October 2026 with my husband and our daughters, who’ll be 9 years old.
I’d love to get your thoughts on our draft itinerary.
First, some key details:
1/ Jeju Island is a must for us. I’ve personally dreamed of going there for years after reading a novel about it.
2/ Our girls are used to road-trip style travel since they were born, so this kind of trip won’t be an issue for them.
3/ We plan to travel by train, except on Jeju where we’ll rent a car (we already have an international driver’s permit).
Itinerary:
Seoul: 1 arrival day at 10 AM + 4 full days
Gyeongju: 2 days
Busan: 3 days
Jeju: 4 days
Seoul: 2 days
Hi there,
My girlfriend (23) and I (24) are heading to Japan for the first time from October 20th to November 6th. Here’s our itinerary:
6 nights in Tokyo
1 night in Hakone (ryokan already booked)
4 nights in Kyoto (hotel already booked)
2 nights in Osaka
4 nights back in Tokyo
I’d like to book hotels for Tokyo (both stays) and Osaka, but I’ve gotten so many different recommendations.
I’ve read that Shinjuku is the place to be for its huge hub, accessibility, and things to do, but I’ve also heard about Shibuya, Asakusa, and Ueno.
I’ve looked at hotels, and first off, I’m surprised by the prices compared to what I’ve seen on forums (I guess inflation’s hit here too… and maybe I’m late to the booking game?). I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed with all the options.
For our first stay in Tokyo, I’d prefer a hotel (not a residence or Airbnb) since we’ll be arriving at night, and it’s our first time in Japan. It’d be great to have a place with a reception, staff who speak at least a little English, and can give us some guidance. For the second stay, we could consider other options if it’s better.
Budget-wise, we can go up to 150–180 € per night, but if we can save some money to spend elsewhere, that’d be amazing!
I’m open to all recommendations, hotel suggestions, or any other tips for Tokyo (first stay), Osaka, and Tokyo (second stay).
Hi there,
I’m getting ready for a classic tourist trip to China in May 2026.
The "Terres Lointaines" itinerary looks good to me, and the price is interesting.
Has anyone traveled with them before? Any feedback?
Is there a better option?
Thanks so much for sharing your experiences on this!
Michel
I just booked my hotel in Seoul—it’ll be near Unhyeongung, on Samil-Daero 30-Gil—and I’m wondering if there’s public transport from the airport to this address (bus or subway)? If not, what’s the taxi fare? I read it’s around 50 or 60 €.
I’m traveling to Japan with a young adult with autism (ASD) from July 28 to August 8, following a pretty classic route: Osaka, Hiroshima, Kyoto, and Tokyo. I’m looking for a schedule of the most spectacular fireworks displays during that time. So far, the dates for the major *hanabi* events aren’t available online yet. If anyone has them, I’d really appreciate it if you could share!
We’ll be doing a self-drive trip using public transport in May 2026.
On Day 6, we’ll arrive in Hakone by train from Tokyo in late morning. We’ll spend the night in Hakone before heading to Kyoto.
The main goal of this stop is clearly the view (no hiking) of Mount Fuji, not so much exploring Hakone, where the sights seem limited.
I’ve read on the forum that the view is great from Gotemba, but it also takes a good hour by bus to get there. And, apart from that view, there’s nothing else to see in Gotemba!
So, I’m not sure what to choose. Any thoughts? Or alternatives to suggest?
Maybe some spots in Hakone or Gotemba for a great view?