Merci à vous tous pour les super carnets de voyage et autres messages qui nous permettent d'organiser au mieux nos voyages!
Voici notre parcours!
Il reste deux jours en fin de parcours.
Peut être il serait judicieuc de caser une journée dans le parcours pour éviter de trop courir ?!?
Pour nous l'excitation monte !
Nous partons 3 semaines en namibie à cheval sur novembre et décembre.
Nous avons choisi la formule 4x4 avec tente sur le toit.
Pour l'instant on a les billets d'avion, le 4X4 et
le tok tokie.
J'hésite à aller jusqu' à Epupa et consacrer des journées supplémentaires dans des endroits coup de coeur (exemple camp Gecko, ...) ou bien alors pour alléger le rytme.
Voici le parcours que l'on a choisi de faire.
Je suis ouvert à vos critiques, vos suggestions de bons plans, ...d'avance merci pour votre regard avisé !
J1 arrivée à 07h du matin à Windhoek, route pour le
kalahari (bagatelle ou anib lodge) connaissez vous d'autres endroits sympas dans les parages.
J2 matinée dans le lodge puis route pour Le début de
la D707 nuit au CAMPING NAMTIB FARM
J3 D707 au soleil levant jusqu'à Tok tokkie puis
début de la randonnée à 14h30 tok tokkie
J4 tok tokkie
J5 fin de la randonnée tok tokkie puis route pour
sesriem camp + dune elim le soir
J6 sosussvlei puis vers 14h route vers Walvis bay
J7 excursuion Mola Mola ou autres nuit à walvis bay
J8 activité kayak ou quad puis route en fin d'après midi
pour sptizkoppe
J9 visite spitzkoppe le matin puis route pour twyfelfontein (visites comprises) peut être un peu court en temps?
J9 route twyfelfontein Puros
J10 Puros
J11 Route Puros- opuwo farniente au lodge l'après midi
Salut Cavini,
beau parcours que voilà mais 2 ou 3 choses me chagrinent un peu, tu as vraiment de très grosses journées de route
J9 route twyfelfontein Puros : attention non pas aux distances mais aux temps de parcours
la tu t'embarques pour 8 heures de bagnole dont la portion seisfontein puros (4 h) de piste assez fatiguante
idem pour J11 Route Puros- opuwo farniente au lodge l'après midi
si tu veux vraiment faire du farniente au lodge il va falloir vraiment partir de très bonne heure, maintenant c'est dommage de ne pas profiter du lever du jour à Puros, non seulement c'est magnifique mais tu auras peut-être la chance d'avoir des éléphants dans le camp au réveil - encore 8 heures de route
et encore idem pour J14 Epupa kamanjab (cheetah farm)
il faut arriver à la farm avant 15h00 pour profiter des guépards - encore 8 heures de route
Merci pour vos réponses!
Aie aie! je me doutais que je tirais un peu sur la corde!
Je crois que je vais zapper Epupa, qu'en pensez vous? je pense voir les himbas vers Puros, période de l'année où ils redescendent dans le village?, non? et puis Epupa à cette période de l'année, je sais pas si c'est intéressant, moins d'eau peut être?!?
ou alors je vois avec le loueur pour rendre le 4x4 le soir.Comme ça je peux faire Etosha6-windhoek l'avant dernier jour.Il me resterait deux jours entiers à caser pour alléger les distance !
Je trouve que c'est mieux, mais pourquoi diable tiens tu tant à aller à Opuwo ?
tu n'y as plus intérêt si tu vas ne pas à Epupa, pourquoi faire tous ces km pour rien
par contre tu pourrais t'arrêter à Warmquelle au retour de puros plutôt qu'à l'aller, ce qui te permettrait de rejoindre Kamandjab plus tranquillement le lendemain
enfin je pense...
En fait, c'était pour faire la boucle via Orupembe. J'avais cru comprendre que les paysages étaient magnifiques.
Maintenant, effectivement je me demande si ça fait pas beaucoup de route !
Du coup on accentuerai plus sur le damaraland!
n"est il pas dommage de passer à coté du Kaokoland (paysages, ...?).
De plus comment rejoindre Kamanjab de Warmquelle?
D'après vos exprériences, y a t-il des endroits où vous avez regretté de ne pas passer plus de temps?
Je peux confirmer qu'il y a vraiment beaucoup de route dans ce tour, et çà commence déjà de Mariental vers Namtib. Songez que les 2 tiers sont de la piste (très bonne en génèral et donc on roule vite quand on voit que le temps passe et gros risque d'accident...
Bagatelle (plus cher) et Anib (moins cher, plus de foule) sont les plus pratiques dans la région de Mariental. Les réservations s'imposent car très demandés. Bien plus cher, mais sans camping, le Intu Africa Lodge.
De Warmquelle vers Kamanjab, prenez au sud via Palmwag puis vers l'est, Kamanjab. 200 km en tout.
Sauf erreur, le camping est interdit dans la concession de Palmwag. Il faut camper au lodge. Dans ces régions, faites toujours attention aux coins fréquentés par les éléphants.
Oui beaucoup de route.
C'est pourquoi on pensait aller jusqu'à Maltahoe (hotel "la vallée tranquille?"). ce qui réduisait un peu la route du lendemain. Du coup, le kalahari fera l'objet d'un autre voyage...
Pour la route Warmquelle - Kamanjab. En fait ça revient au même si je vais à opuwo. Pour ensuite redescendre à Kamanjab.Et ça me permet de faire Puros Opuwo via orupembe 6h 7h de route. Je ne perds pas de journée et ça m'évite de refaire la même route en sens inverse.
Pour la concession de Palmwag il y a deux camp: le hein's, le aub combretum, ensuite il est possible d'aller au delà (peut être permis de plusieurs nuits?!? on touve d'autres camps le kai ais et le crowther's campsite. Je cherche des infos sur ces camps et la concession.Il parait que ça vaut vraiment le coup.J'ai lu un message d'une personne sur le forum qui en parlait mais sans plus de détails.
La ferme-auberge "La vallée tranquille" n'existe plus, (fermé l'an passé) mais il y a un BB tenue par une autre française à Maltahohe. Le nom m'échappe, mais de toute façon, c'est tout petit, Maltahohe, et c'est bien indiqué. Pour la concession de Palmwag, je ne connais pas les sites que vous mentionnez. Je vais faire un peu de recherche.
Pour la route Warmquelle - Kamanjab. En fait ça revient au même si je vais à opuwo. Pour ensuite redescendre à Kamanjab.Et ça me permet de faire Puros Opuwo via orupembe 6h 7h de route. Je ne perds pas de journée et ça m'évite de refaire la même route en sens inverse.
salut,
je n'avais pas compris que tu voulais passer par la piste via Orupembe... par contre il y a comme un gros hic.
Je ne sais pas où tu as pris cette info de faire la piste en 6 heures, au mieux comptes en le double et prévois bien ton autonomie en essence, nourriture et roue de secours
l'idéal serait de le faire sur 2 jours
Je t'invite à lire le carnet de voyage de mon amie Grisemote sur cette portion de route
http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=1523077;#1523077
L'info vient du carnet de voyage de Bernicotti
c'est le dernier carnet de voyage publié sur ce site : lien
Dans tous les cas, je te l'accorde ça fait beaucoup de route loin de tout...
Merci pour l'info." vallée tranquille " fermée!
Merci aussi Jacana, je prends note du tuyaux.Bon plan pour se reposer si on finit sur les rotules...😛
De toute façon, je suis en train de revoir mon parcours. Je vais plutôt faire kuangu kuang le premier soir, ensuite sesriem puis tok tokie. et re-étape vers le spreetspoot pass (gecko surement) pour ensuite rejoindre walvis bay le lendemain. l'inconvénient de cette nouvelle mouture est que je ne passe pas par la D707 et que je fais un aller retour sesriem tok tokkie.
Difficile d'intégrer le tok tokkie par la D707 sans faire beaucoup de route dès le début?
De plus après le Spitzkoppe , je ne sais pas si je dois insister sur le damaraland : une nuit à chaque site : a savoir brandberg, tyfelfontein, palmwag) ou bien une nuit à twyfelfontein (en passant la journée à faire les peintures rupestres, organ pipes, ...) de manière à rejoindre le kaokoland plus tôt!
Bonjour
QQs renseignements sur visites. Twyfelfontein :peintures rupestres sont tout a fait faisables au lever du soleil. 2h maximum de visite guidée. Les organs pipes ne sont qu'un petit cayon de 150 m de long..15 minutes suffisent..
Ensuite se rendre a Palmwag... Le lendemain faire Palmwag-Opuwo sans problèmes.Epupa est un petit paradis au bord du fleuve Kounene..Grimper le soir sur la colline pour voir le coucher de soleil sur les chutes d'eau!!.
En ce qui concerne le retour . Depuis Namutomi..descendre vers Tsumeb , mais auparavant s'arrêter au lac (23 km avant Tsumeb) Petite exposition de jolies pierres semi précieuses..où l'on peut faire son choix pour 3X rien!!
ensuite se diriger vers Omaruru et aller vers les Monts Erongo..c'est une merveille au lever et au coucher du soleil..(beaucoup de Dassie en liberté)
Le lendemain, en partant vers 7h30 du matin, vous êtes à Windhoeh vers 10h30/11h.
Cordialement
Alain
Deux mois ! génial... Nous , nous partons demain pour 3 semaines. J'ai regardé ton parcours..... je pense qu'effectivement le temps passé à Spitzkoppe est un peu court....
NOus nous resterons au minimun deux nuits. Chaque fois que je suis allée sur des forums, tout le monde disait ne pas être resté assez longtemps, alors du coup, moi je vais y prendre mon temps.
Par contre aurais tu des infos sur l'utilisation des téléphones portables et sur le camp de Spitzkoppe que nous n'avons jamais pu joindre et où nous devons retrouver un autre camping car ?
Ah non en fait j'ai compris tu pars dans 2 mois, mais pour Trois semaines comme nous !!!
La différence est que tu vas dans le Kalahari (c'est une bonne idée!) et nous deux fois à Etosha car nous serons avec des personnes différentes.
Il y avait aussi le Waterberg qui m'aurait bien plus..
Si tu as un 4x4 , et si tu aimes les coins vraiment paumés, moi j'aurais vraiment aimé prendre les pistes qui vont de Solitaire à Walvis , mais il faut un permis et nous, avec les camping car , je pense que c'est un peu chaud.
Je pense également que tu devrais rester un peu plus à Sesriem, car le lendemain du jour où tu y dors, cela va être short de tout voir et de partir le lendemain vers Walvis.
Si tu veux donne moi ton mail et je t'enverrais mon programme.
Merci pour votre aide. on va inclure Epupa dans notre itinéraire et suivant les echos qu'on pourra avoir là bas on ira ou pas.Peut être décevant à cette période de l'année, Fin de la saison sèche...
Monts erongo, pourquoi pas! j'ai hésité un moment à faire une nuit à Epako, avant windhoek mais il manque 1 ou deux jours.du coup si on ne va pas à epupa, on s'y arrêtera !
Donc voici ma nouvelle mouture.Certaines étapes sont longues.Les journées sont longues durant cette période de l'année.On accentura les heures de voiture en fin de matinée et début d'après midi. ça nous laissera des températures plus agréables(euh plus supportable) pour faire les visites tôt le matin et en fin d'après midi.Voili voilou.
J1 arrivée 07h à windhoek, route pour kuangu kuangu
J2 journée à kuangu kuangu puis route pour sesriem (elim dune le soir)
J3 Vleis puis en fin de matinée route pour tok tokkie
J4 TOk tokkie
J5 fin tok tokkie le matin puis route pour camp gecko ou tsondab vallée, votre préféré?
J6 journée sur place puis route walvis bay nuit au Kleines nest
J7 Mola Mola nuit à Kleines nest
J8 kayak ou quad puis route vers spitzkoppe
J9 Spitzkoppe le matin puis brandberg (éventuellement deuxième nuit à Spitzkoppe si on s'y sens si bien.)
J10 Twyfelfontein visites le soir et nuit à aba huab
J10 Twyfelfontein-Palmwag (concession) ou Warmquelle
J12 Palmwag (ou warmquelle)-puros
J14 Puros Opuwo
J15 Opuwo Epupa
J16 Epupa
J17 Epupa Hobatere (ou kavita lion) ?
J18 Hobatere (ou Kavita lion camp) - Etosha
J19 Etosha
J20 Etosha
J21 Etosha Windhoek restitution 4X4 en fin d'après midi.
J22 Vol retour
ou variante à partir du J14
J14 Puros Palmwag ou warquelle
J15 route pour Grootberg
J16 game drive elephant le matin puis route pour Kavita Lion camp
J17 Kavita puis route pour etosha
J18 etosha
J19 etosha
J20 etosha mountetjo
J21 mount etjo le matin puis retour Windhoek
J22 vol retour
On fera la variante suivant comment se sera passé notre voyage jusqu'à Puros (éléphant du désert, rencontre fortuite avec Himba, etc...)et suivant les echos qu'on aura de Epupa sur place.
Premièrement je vous souhaite un bon séjour en Namibie
J’ ai une faveur un peu spéciale à vous demander , je collectionne les pièces de monnaies étrangères comtemporaines depuis peu de temps .
Mon ambition est d’ avoir au moins une pièce de monnaies de tous les pays du monde mais cela n’ est pas facile.
Me manquant la pièce de 5 dollar de la Namibie, auriez vous la sympathie de m’ envoyer cette pièce qui complètera ma collection .Je serais très ravi de cet envoi .
C’ est pour moi la seule façon de voyager à travers le monde.
En vous remerciant par avance, je vous prie d’ agréer, Madame Monsieur , l’ expression de mes sentiments distingués .
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Pour Zanzibar, organisation par moi même. J'ai longtemps hésité mais j'ai finalement pris les 4 nuits au même endroit. Nous n'aimons pas la foule, je visais Jambiani mais j'ai trouvé EVERGREEN BUNGALOWS à Bwejuu. Nous avons pris le premier transfert aéroport/hôtel avec eux car nous arrivions de nuit et cela me paraissait plus sûr. Très bon rapport qualité/prix, à notre goût. Par contre attention, on est assez isolé : idéal pour chiller et faire des excursions. Très peu de sollicitations sur la plage contrairement à ce que j'avais lu sur Zanzibar. On vit les pieds dans le sable du matin au soir, petite bassine d'eau devant la chambre pour se les nettoyer. Joli endroit ! J'avais demandé quelques tarifs pour les excursions avant de partir mais nous avons pris sur place. Pas à notre hôtel mais auprès d'un restaurant à côté qui était moins cher. Après réflexion, étant basé à Bwejuu, je souhaitais faire Blue Lagoon et Pungume(les 2 partant du sud de Zanzibar). Blue Lagoon : environ 3h de temps en tout, snorkelling sur un petit récif plein de poissons (coraux pas top) puis arrêt sur un spot avec de très nombreuses étoiles de mer, avec snacks locaux, fruits et boissons.Pungume: super journée avec une chance sur 2 de voir les dauphins (raté pour nous), passage vers des mangroves puis snorkelling sur un spot avec quelques jolis coraux et bien sûr des poissons avant une super grillade(thon, crevettes, calamars, langouste, frites) sur un banc de sable à l'abri du soleil. Enfin, avant de rejoindre Stone town, nous sommes allés à Paje cave beaucoup moins connu que Maalum: plus petite, on a vu des chauves-souris, on s'est baigné puis on est a nourri les poules et lapins(très bien pour les enfants). et pour finir, visite de Stone town par nous même avec repas au Forodhani market.
Pour l'avion, nous sommes partis avec Turkish airlines depuis Barcelone jusqu'au Kilimandjaro et retour depuis Zanzibar : très bien. Par contre le trajet Kilimandjaro -Zanzibar avec Precision Air, je ne le recommande pas: pas de bagage à l'arrivée...et d'après l'hôtel, ça arrive souvent. Nous ne les avons eu qu'un jour et demi après.
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
March or May 2027.
Around 15 days in the Western Cape,
then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George.
The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode...
From George:
Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1.
Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna.
Question:
What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339.
And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340.
Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed?
Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert?
If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts?
From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both).
Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area?
Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me...
(For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...).
Any feedback from the pros?
Well, that’s about it...
I’m open to any other tips or advice!
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
Hi there,
I’m considering camping in Nyungwe Park with my family (2 adults, 2 kids) at Uwinka campsite. Problem: the park rents the tent but without any gear (mattresses, blankets). We don’t have a car. Is it possible to rent or buy mattresses and blankets near the park, please?
Thanks for your help
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
Thanks
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks.
We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old.
We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions:
- How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?).
- Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice.
- I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that.
- Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas!
Gabriel
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg.
This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights).
D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights)
Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai).
D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights).
D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE).
D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6.
If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too.
Thanks! 🙂
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland.
Could you share any tips on:
- the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar)
- your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours
- reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are:
- Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional
- Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive
- Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me.
Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works...
Thanks to everyone for your help.
Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature.
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We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa?
As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult?
We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :)
We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend.
See you on the road with Doddy
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB
D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon
D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger
D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area
D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route)
D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this:
- Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective.
First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...).
That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on.
The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start...
During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.)
The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance.
Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page).
Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water),
– Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places,
– Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly,
– One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
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Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored:
– services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water),
– hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments,
– visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly,
– one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment.
To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone.
Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera
Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo
Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera
Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?)
Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 4: Full day in Tarangire
Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO
Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome...
Thanks
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works.
I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!!
I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh…
Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car??
If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali?
Thanks so much for your help…
Best regards
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be:
- Hwange
- Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona)
- Mana Pools
- Harare
- Gonarezhou
- Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work.
I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts.
So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza
Ngenda
Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi
Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas)
Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions:
-Is French still widely spoken?
-Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info?
-Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back?
-Is it possible to go hiking solo?
-Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share.
Looking forward to exchanging more!
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind.
I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south:
14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie
17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza
20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara
22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants
25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere.
28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel.
29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance!
Nicole
Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’d like to return to Africa and stay in a lodge where I can see animals—not necessarily the Big Five—without needing any transport once I arrive at the lodge, and at a price under $250 per day for two people with full board. The week-long stay is planned for late June into early July. I’m looking for suggestions. Thanks in advance!
Hi, I’d like to travel to Ethiopia as a solo 60-year-old woman, backpacking style, between December 2025 and January 2026.
I’m wondering about the current state of the country: unrest, safety concerns, etc.
Government websites advise against going, saying it’s too dangerous.
But I’m skeptical—they tend to be overly cautious.
So I’m looking for reliable information, though I’m not sure where to find it.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
We’re a group of four seventy-something retirees and we’re planning a 4-week trip to South Africa. We’re seasoned "adventurers" used to multi-week stays (we’ve been to India seven times, Mexico, Thailand, Laos, Myanmar, Australia, etc.).
For South Africa, we’re thinking of covering most of the trip in a private vehicle and taking flights for inter-state transfers.
We’re interested in meeting people, learning about the country’s evolution, exploring major cities, visiting traditional villages, and seeing wildlife.
Here’s the itinerary we’re considering:
Johannesburg – 2 days (we’ll pass through again later)
Pretoria – 2 days
Blyde River Canyon and Graskop – 1 day
Acornhoek – 1 day
Letaba – 2 days
Lobamba – 2 days
Johannesburg – 1 day
Flight to Cape Town
Cape Town – 3 days
Cape of Good Hope – 1 day
Stellenbosch – 1 day
Hermanus – 1 day
Mossel Bay – 2 days
Oudtshoorn
Wilderness – 2 days
Knysna
Port Elizabeth – 2 days
Addo Elephant Park
Flight back to Johannesburg
Johannesburg – 1 day
Return to Paris
Could you share your thoughts on this itinerary? We’ll be renting a vehicle to explore both regions.
We can easily add 4–5 more days to the trip if needed.
We’re looking at traveling either between April and May 2026 or in October/November 2026.
I’ll follow up later to discuss the best safari options and get a rough budget estimate.
Thanks to everyone who takes the time to read this and share their thoughts!