Train de nuit en Chine
by Claudee
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Avez-vous déjà testé le train de nuit en Chine (1ère classe & 4 personnes par compartiment) ?
Nous sommes en train de regarder pour un voyage de 15 jours et 12 nuits (dont 2 en train avec dîner à bord: Pékin-Xian / Luo Yang-Suzhou) Est-ce que ce type de train est généralement à l'heure ?.
Pensez-vous que Chengde et Tongli soient des incontournables (ils ne figurent pas dans notre circuit) ?
Nous hésitons actuellement entre 2 tours operators. Notre départ serait fin mars 2006.
Merci pour vos infos.
oui plusieurs fois, rien à redire sur le train et les compagons de compartiments très corrects et des trains à l'heure, le voyage en train en chine plutôt de bon souvenirs, par contre pas testé le restaurant ; pour chengde c'est le palais d'été et son grand parc, des temples, une promenade rafraichissante que j'ai bien aimé, quant à tongli un joli village d'eau ver souzhou un peu préservé j'ai bien aimé, j'y suis allée en 2004 mais la chine cchange tellement tellement vite qu'aujourd'hui c'est peut ^tre rempli de touriste, maintenant est ce que c'est incontournable, je ne saurais être affirmative tout dépend du temps de chacun, mais si tu ne retournes pas une autre fois vers pekin c'est peut être un peu dommage de ne pas faire un crochet jusqu'à chengde ( c'est 1 nuit sur place ) voilà mon avis 😏
merci pour une réponse aussi rapide. Etes vous partie avec un tour opérator, si oui avez-vous été satisfaite des prestations ?
Nous hésitons entre 2 (voire 3 TO): Asia, Visiteurs en Asie et Rev'vacances. Chacun a quelquechose à proposer que l'autre n'a pas !
Merci pour vos conseils
De retour de Chine depuis une semaine, train de nuit et de jour, sans problème, pour la nuit prendre des chouchettes molles( compartiment de 4 personnes), de jour sur un parcours court, les sièges "dur" ne sont pas "insupporbales", l'ambiance y est nettement plus "typiques".
Un chose importante, il n'est pas possible d'acheter un ticket aller retour à la gare de départ, le "retour" s'achete dans la gare d'arrivée, mais attention ne pas sortire de la gare, car pour y entre il faut un ticket qui s'achete dans la gare.......Exprérience vécu il y a 15 jours a Chengde.
Il n'est pas "trop difficile" de se ballader a deux en Chine sur les parcours "touristiques", un bon guide, un peux de patience, et en générale ca roule. Donc le voyage en groupe peux être éviter.
Très beaux voyage a vous.😏
La Chine etant encore un Etat a la doctrine communiste... il n'y a pas de premiere classe mais la classe des couchettes molles. Couchettes tres confortables, sur les trains avec un numero commencant par T notament. Par exemple, les nouvelles rames sur Shanghai Pekin contiennent presque toutes des ecrans individuels a chaque lit des compartiments couche-mou.
La nourriture est reputee excecrable cependant donc je ne m'y suis jamais aventure...
Chengde est tres bien, impressionnante par rapport aux palais pekinois. Lisez les recits de voyage de l'ambassade de McCartney envoye par le Roi d'Angleterre aupres de l'empereur chinois a la fin du XVIIIe et vous aurez envie de faire ce petit crochet.
Tongli etait toujours assez peu touristique en aout dernier. vous pouvez y passer 2 ou 3 heures et prenez un taxi depuis Suzhou (negociez a 90 yuan, 100 yuan max) pour ne pas perdre de temps et profitez quand meme des charmes de cette cite, si le temps est ensoleille.
La nourriture est reputee excecrable cependant donc je ne m'y suis jamais aventure...
Chengde est tres bien, impressionnante par rapport aux palais pekinois. Lisez les recits de voyage de l'ambassade de McCartney envoye par le Roi d'Angleterre aupres de l'empereur chinois a la fin du XVIIIe et vous aurez envie de faire ce petit crochet.
Tongli etait toujours assez peu touristique en aout dernier. vous pouvez y passer 2 ou 3 heures et prenez un taxi depuis Suzhou (negociez a 90 yuan, 100 yuan max) pour ne pas perdre de temps et profitez quand meme des charmes de cette cite, si le temps est ensoleille.
Merci pour ces infos. En ce qui concerne la nourriture dans le train, on verra car comme c'est un circuit, tout est inclus... surprise donc !
J'espère que nous pourrons faire une escapade à Chengde et Tongli (ces 2 endroits ne figurent pas dans le circuit que nous pensons choisir !)
salut,
On a fait 30 jours en chine.
Les gares tres organisee (comme dans les aeroports on doit attrendre en salle d'attente que le train arriven pour aller ensuite sur le quai).
On a fait couchette molle et dure. Les 2 OK en couchette molle il n' y a pas de compartiment, tout est ouvert (c'est plus aere surtout quand tu voyage dans le sud de la chine ou il fait chaud.)
Il nous est rien arrive et c'est "safe", Bien sur tes affaires importante (argent passport...) tu les gardes sur toi.
En couchette dure il y a trois couchette superpose. Dans celle du haut (la moins chere) tu ne peux pas rester assis (pas de place) donc c'est vraiement juste pour dormir. Celle du bas tu risque de la partager durant la journee...(Extension des lumieres a 22h00 !!! et reveil a 7h00 avec la musique...)
La nourriture pas essaye. Mais tu peux acheter (dans les gares aussi) des nouilles ou autres repas et tu mets de l'eau chaude (disponible dans les trains).
Par contre il faut (si tu ne parle pas le chinois) arriver a la gare avec le nom de ta destination ecrit en chinois. Fait toi des petite fiche avec des pharses ecrite en chinois (Je voudrais 2 places pour ... couchette dure/molle avec le train ....). Il y a des gens qui sont parti dans la direction oppose parce que ils avaient mal prononce !
Une fois (a Datong) on a pas pu (ou bien, on nous a pas voulu nous vendre...) acheter un billet pour aller vers le sud. Du coup on a du se rabattre sur le CITS (qui prends une petite commission au passage). Les hotels peuvent t'acheter les billets de train (prennent aussi une commission mais cela evite de perdre du temps).
De meme pour les hotels faut avoir l'adresse si possible en chinois.
Il y a (presque) tout le temps des consignes donc tu peux visiter une ville durant la journee et prendre le train de nuit suivant. Si tu vas a Pekin et ensuite a PingYao arrete toi a Datong (grottes boudhiques et monastere suspendu) a ne pas rater et on a trouve plus chouette que les soldats enterres a Xian).
Pas besoin de prendre un tour organise(pour la chine) si tu es un peu debrouille en revanche les tour (a la journee) avec des chinois peuvent etre interessant si tu n'as pas de temps.
Pres des gares les taxis ne veulent pas (parfois) mettre le compteur. Dans ce cas il faut marcher quelque centaines de mettre et chercher un taxi.
Ruben (rubencc@caramail.com)
On a fait 30 jours en chine.
Les gares tres organisee (comme dans les aeroports on doit attrendre en salle d'attente que le train arriven pour aller ensuite sur le quai).
On a fait couchette molle et dure. Les 2 OK en couchette molle il n' y a pas de compartiment, tout est ouvert (c'est plus aere surtout quand tu voyage dans le sud de la chine ou il fait chaud.)
Il nous est rien arrive et c'est "safe", Bien sur tes affaires importante (argent passport...) tu les gardes sur toi.
En couchette dure il y a trois couchette superpose. Dans celle du haut (la moins chere) tu ne peux pas rester assis (pas de place) donc c'est vraiement juste pour dormir. Celle du bas tu risque de la partager durant la journee...(Extension des lumieres a 22h00 !!! et reveil a 7h00 avec la musique...)
La nourriture pas essaye. Mais tu peux acheter (dans les gares aussi) des nouilles ou autres repas et tu mets de l'eau chaude (disponible dans les trains).
Par contre il faut (si tu ne parle pas le chinois) arriver a la gare avec le nom de ta destination ecrit en chinois. Fait toi des petite fiche avec des pharses ecrite en chinois (Je voudrais 2 places pour ... couchette dure/molle avec le train ....). Il y a des gens qui sont parti dans la direction oppose parce que ils avaient mal prononce !
Une fois (a Datong) on a pas pu (ou bien, on nous a pas voulu nous vendre...) acheter un billet pour aller vers le sud. Du coup on a du se rabattre sur le CITS (qui prends une petite commission au passage). Les hotels peuvent t'acheter les billets de train (prennent aussi une commission mais cela evite de perdre du temps).
De meme pour les hotels faut avoir l'adresse si possible en chinois.
Il y a (presque) tout le temps des consignes donc tu peux visiter une ville durant la journee et prendre le train de nuit suivant. Si tu vas a Pekin et ensuite a PingYao arrete toi a Datong (grottes boudhiques et monastere suspendu) a ne pas rater et on a trouve plus chouette que les soldats enterres a Xian).
Pas besoin de prendre un tour organise(pour la chine) si tu es un peu debrouille en revanche les tour (a la journee) avec des chinois peuvent etre interessant si tu n'as pas de temps.
Pres des gares les taxis ne veulent pas (parfois) mettre le compteur. Dans ce cas il faut marcher quelque centaines de mettre et chercher un taxi.
Ruben (rubencc@caramail.com)
Ruben
Bonjour,
Alors la couchette du haut en dures.... On y monte une fois, on descend, mais après on reste en bas si on est grand, parce que c'est carrément acrobatique.... Pour les gares, c'est bien de surveiller les stations en ayant imrpimé ou noté le trajet, par exemple à partir de : http://www.travelchinaguide.com/china-trains/index.htm
Michel
Alors la couchette du haut en dures.... On y monte une fois, on descend, mais après on reste en bas si on est grand, parce que c'est carrément acrobatique.... Pour les gares, c'est bien de surveiller les stations en ayant imrpimé ou noté le trajet, par exemple à partir de : http://www.travelchinaguide.com/china-trains/index.htm
Michel
Bonsoir,
Merci à Ruben et Tatra pour vos explications et conseils. Notre décision est prise, nous partons avec un TO fin mars pour 2 semaines (nous ne nous sentons pas suffisamment "courageux" pour partir seuls). Nous allons nous laisser guider et attendons avec impatience la découverte d'une petite partie de ce grand pays.
A bientôt sur ce forum.
Claude
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Hi there,
I’m a bit late to be worrying about this, but hopefully someone can help me before I leave.
Tomorrow afternoon, I arrive at Lyon Part-Dieu on the TGV at 5:50 PM and take the TER to Mâcon at 6:16 PM. Is a 26-minute transfer doable? Are the TGV and TER on the same departure board? And are they on the same platforms too?
I’ve been to Lyon before but never had to make a connection after arriving.
Thanks
Hello,
Starting November 15th, I’ll be arriving in Thailand, and during my stay, I plan to visit the north, around the Chiang Mai area, then head south to the Krabi region. After Krabi, I’m planning to take an overnight train to Bangkok. I was wondering if there’s a train that leaves from Krabi or Trang, or if I absolutely have to go to Surat Thani? Also, which official website can I use to book my ticket?
Next, since I’ll be arriving at dawn in Bangkok, I’ve planned to spend 2 days in Kanchanaburi. What’s the most convenient way to get there—bus or train? And if you know any companies or websites, that’d be great.
Thanks for your tips!
Fred
Starting November 15th, I’ll be arriving in Thailand, and during my stay, I plan to visit the north, around the Chiang Mai area, then head south to the Krabi region. After Krabi, I’m planning to take an overnight train to Bangkok. I was wondering if there’s a train that leaves from Krabi or Trang, or if I absolutely have to go to Surat Thani? Also, which official website can I use to book my ticket?
Next, since I’ll be arriving at dawn in Bangkok, I’ve planned to spend 2 days in Kanchanaburi. What’s the most convenient way to get there—bus or train? And if you know any companies or websites, that’d be great.
Thanks for your tips!
Fred
Hi! I arrive in Vancouver on August 24, 2025, and I’m staying until Friday, August 29, 2025—the day I take *The Canadian* train to Toronto.
I’m exploring several things in Vancouver, including whale watching—if you’ve got any great tips, don’t hesitate! Thanks!
I’m exploring several things in Vancouver, including whale watching—if you’ve got any great tips, don’t hesitate! Thanks!
Hi there,
Does anyone know if there’s a bus from Luang Namtha to Boten to catch the train coming from China to Vientiane? If so, what’s the name of the company? Also, how long does the bus take to cover that distance? What’s the condition of the road like?
Thanks for your help!
Tom
I just realized there’s only one payment method accepted for booking the Mombasa-Nairobi express train ticket online: M-Pesa, a mobile money transfer service used in Africa. Would it be impossible to book as a European?
Hi
Have any of you booked tickets through rail.ninja?
Hi there,
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient). But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this? We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help, and have a great Sunday!
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient). But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this? We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help, and have a great Sunday!
Hi there,
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Thanks
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Thanks
Hi everyone,
For traveling in Rajasthan by train and bus, could you give me some info: where to buy tickets, cost, purchase locations, websites, etc.?
Any tips you have would be super helpful.
Thanks
Hi there,
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us. I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com. Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend? Are the tickets changeable?
Thanks for your help!
Nicole
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us. I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com. Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend? Are the tickets changeable?
Thanks for your help!
Nicole
Hi everyone,
I’m planning to travel from Ulaanbaatar to Irkutsk by train this summer but I’m a bit worried about crossing the borders. How does it work? Could anyone share their experience? (I’ve found quite a few accounts of people going *from* Russia *to* Mongolia, but entering a country is never the same as leaving it—especially in this context!)
Thanks in advance! 😊
Thanks in advance! 😊