Destinations retraites heureuses pour "happy few"?
by Wayfarer75
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Il y a un sujet peu ou pas abordé sur ce site : les destinations (pas forcément à la mode) où tous paramètres confondus, on vit une retraite heureuse en "happy few".
Alors c'est peut-être utile d'ouvrir le débat...
Bonjour,
Vaste sujet !! Cela depend de ce que tu appelles une "retraite heureuse". Personnellement, je me vois mal vivre ma retraite en dehors de l'Europe ou j'ai mes reperes, mes amis, ma famille etc... Bien sur, j'aime voyager mais il y a un monde de difference entre partir pour six semaines ou meme six mois et poser ses racines. Ensuite, cela depend de chaque personne. Une personne se sentira tres heureuse avec un minimum vital par mois, d'autres ont besoin de beaucoup plus de comfort. Donc je crois que de toutes manieres, c'est uniquement des reponses individuelles que tu va recevoir. Il n'y a pas de recette miracle pour avoir une "retraite heureuse", de la meme maniere qu'il n'y a pas de recette miracle pour une "vie heureuse". "Tout parametres confondus!!".... tout le monde n'aime pas la plage et les cocotiers tous les jours pendans 6 mois !
Vaste sujet !! Cela depend de ce que tu appelles une "retraite heureuse". Personnellement, je me vois mal vivre ma retraite en dehors de l'Europe ou j'ai mes reperes, mes amis, ma famille etc... Bien sur, j'aime voyager mais il y a un monde de difference entre partir pour six semaines ou meme six mois et poser ses racines. Ensuite, cela depend de chaque personne. Une personne se sentira tres heureuse avec un minimum vital par mois, d'autres ont besoin de beaucoup plus de comfort. Donc je crois que de toutes manieres, c'est uniquement des reponses individuelles que tu va recevoir. Il n'y a pas de recette miracle pour avoir une "retraite heureuse", de la meme maniere qu'il n'y a pas de recette miracle pour une "vie heureuse". "Tout parametres confondus!!".... tout le monde n'aime pas la plage et les cocotiers tous les jours pendans 6 mois !
c'est uniquement des reponses individuelles que tu vas recevoir
C'est ce qu'il souhaite, il semblerait 😎
C'est ce qu'il souhaite, il semblerait 😎
Le ciel c'est comme la mer à l’envers,
Par dessus tout, c'est la joie qui m'en impose,
Et je vends ma sublime 500 Royal Enfield, qui se bronze à GOA !
Par dessus tout, c'est la joie qui m'en impose,
Et je vends ma sublime 500 Royal Enfield, qui se bronze à GOA !
Sans vouloir vexer personne, ta question est peut-être trop pointue pour avoir des réponses pertinentes sur ce forum, vu le niveau moyen de connaissances des intervenants, tu devrais plutôt t'orienter vers des blogs privés à accès restraint, en percourrant le Net, ça se trouve, mais il faut être perspicace. Bonne route.
Sans vouloir vexer personne, ta question est peut-être trop pointue pour avoir des réponses pertinentes sur ce forum, vu le niveau moyen de connaissances des intervenants, tu devrais plutôt t'orienter vers des blogs privés à accès restraint, en percourrant le Net, ça se trouve, mais il faut être perspicace. Bonne route.
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Hola ! Tu as du te tromper d'immeuble, je n'ai pas pose de question ! Cela dit ta prose me laisse reveur 🤪 😕
Le ciel c'est comme la mer à l’envers,
Par dessus tout, c'est la joie qui m'en impose,
Et je vends ma sublime 500 Royal Enfield, qui se bronze à GOA !
Par dessus tout, c'est la joie qui m'en impose,
Et je vends ma sublime 500 Royal Enfield, qui se bronze à GOA !
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C'est quoi une retraite ???
pour ma part je ne pense pas que les "Happy few", très privilégiés, et en nombre restreint par définition , fréquentent beaucoup VF , mais surtout changent de beaucoup leurs habitudes nomades, Gstaad, Marbella, Praslin, Festival de .., Grand prix de ... etc ... etc ... et décident de poser leur malla Vuitton hors de portée des autres "Happy few".
pour ma part je ne pense pas que les "Happy few", très privilégiés, et en nombre restreint par définition , fréquentent beaucoup VF , mais surtout changent de beaucoup leurs habitudes nomades, Gstaad, Marbella, Praslin, Festival de .., Grand prix de ... etc ... etc ... et décident de poser leur malla Vuitton hors de portée des autres "Happy few".
C'est quoi une retraite ?
De mon point de vue, c'est la suite logique de ce qui a precede, seul le prix des jouets change, et les raideurs se deplacent ! 😛 😉
De mon point de vue, c'est la suite logique de ce qui a precede, seul le prix des jouets change, et les raideurs se deplacent ! 😛 😉
Le ciel c'est comme la mer à l’envers,
Par dessus tout, c'est la joie qui m'en impose,
Et je vends ma sublime 500 Royal Enfield, qui se bronze à GOA !
Par dessus tout, c'est la joie qui m'en impose,
Et je vends ma sublime 500 Royal Enfield, qui se bronze à GOA !
Réponse pertinente : un classement, un site web à consulter, pas de bla-bla, et pas de raccollage commercial (ou copinage) déguisé non plus pour destination(s) à la mode.
la hauteur de vos connaissances supérieures m'épate.... vos réponses sont d'une pertinence trollesque ! Que c'est vrai nous ne pouvons traduire ni comprendre tant celles ci s'accomoderaient d'une intégrale pour en expliquer les relents... En Anglais ou Espagnol.
soyons sérieux vous parlez devant votre miroir surement pour vous y voir conter vos inepties....
Pour le bla-bla...commentes le classement si ça peut te faire plaisir...
Pour ce qui est du copinage, je ne suis pas retraité (et loin de l'être) et je n'ai aucun intérêts financiers (ou autre type d'intérêts d'ailleurs) dans aucune des destinations sur la liste.
Prends ta retraite où tu veux.. ça ne n'empêchera pas de dormir
Pour ce qui est du copinage, je ne suis pas retraité (et loin de l'être) et je n'ai aucun intérêts financiers (ou autre type d'intérêts d'ailleurs) dans aucune des destinations sur la liste.
Prends ta retraite où tu veux.. ça ne n'empêchera pas de dormir
😛😎😉😉
Le ciel c'est comme la mer à l’envers,
Par dessus tout, c'est la joie qui m'en impose,
Et je vends ma sublime 500 Royal Enfield, qui se bronze à GOA !
Par dessus tout, c'est la joie qui m'en impose,
Et je vends ma sublime 500 Royal Enfield, qui se bronze à GOA !
Tu as mal compris le message puisque c'était un compliment destiné à ta réponse!
J'ai effectivement pris votre réponse "de façon négative" et donc dans le mauvais sens...
désolé!😄
désolé!😄
Mada a son charme pour les francophones mais pour les connaisseurs exigeants sur certains critères, ça reste une destination bas de gamme pour y prendre sa retraite, d'où son absence dans le Top 10 du classement en question; mais tant mieux si tu y vis heureux , sans déception ou sans drame comme tant d'autres vasahas avant toi.
Ok pas de problème, bonne continuation.
ah et c'est quoi ces critères ? j'en suis curieux...
je peux si je veux vivre aux seychelles, a <Maurice, Au Canada, dont j'ai la nationalité aussi, ou en polynésie ou j'ai passé 7 ans de ma vie.
je passe beaucoup de temps a Madagascar parce que j'aime, mais je garde mes biens ici en France, et je peux prendre l'avion si ça me plait pour l'autre bout du monde pour y passer des vacances...
si tes critères sont liés aux moyens, t'as tout faux, ensuite un top 10 c'est bien à la TV ça fait vendre...
ça reste une destination bas de gamme pour y prendre sa retraite, ah bon, pas pour moi ... Au fait tu achetes des chaussures pour leur marque ou pour le confort.... c'est quoi "bas de gamme" ??
ça reste une destination bas de gamme pour y prendre sa retraite, ah bon, pas pour moi ... Au fait tu achetes des chaussures pour leur marque ou pour le confort.... c'est quoi "bas de gamme" ??
Moi je dis plus 10 😎 😉
Le ciel c'est comme la mer à l’envers,
Par dessus tout, c'est la joie qui m'en impose,
Et je vends ma sublime 500 Royal Enfield, qui se bronze à GOA !
Par dessus tout, c'est la joie qui m'en impose,
Et je vends ma sublime 500 Royal Enfield, qui se bronze à GOA !
pour qui a connu la grande île sous la 1ère république, il va de soi que c'est devenu, au travers des régimes anti-français (quoi qu'ils en disent) un pays délabré, et dangereux à divers points de vue, et moi je n'y retournerai pas de si tôt, d'autant plus qu'à part nosy bé et sainte-marie, les côtes sont plutôt inhospitalières, d'ailleurs les malgaches que je fréquente en france me disent que c'est devenu une destination pour vasahas traine-savate ou magouilleurs mais pas pour les gens bien...
alors par rapport à la question initiale, madagascar est hors sujet, inutile d'insister.
j'ai connu aussi la 1ere et toutes les autres, et ce que vous dites est faux, archi faux, je vis sur la cote est en partie, Tamatave et Mananara, je ne suis pas un traine savate ni un magouilleur, vous etes un comique... parce que vous parlez sans connaitre, ensuite que des malgaches vivant en France dénigrent leur pays est courant, ils sont comme les saules, pleureurs... et jaloux... Et comme j'en vois aussi de ceux là lorsqu'ils viennent en vacances là bas, ils jouent les "gasy vola" et traitent mal les autres, Ils deviennent alors des "gasy ratsy"... alors que bien souvent ici, ils bénéficient d'aides sociales, (j'en connais)...... nous ne fréquentons pas les mêmes, .....ceux que je fréquente y vont souvent, et ne sont pas du meme avis, c'est une question de valeur.
la vôtre est restée a la 1ere république, et depuis le temps, elle est vermoulue.
et puisque vous considérez en n'y allant pas que vous faites partie des gens "bien", surtout restez ou vous êtes, la pollution ne se déplacera pas dans ce beau pays.
et puisque vous considérez en n'y allant pas que vous faites partie des gens "bien", surtout restez ou vous êtes, la pollution ne se déplacera pas dans ce beau pays.
Madagascar, ça te convient et tu utilises VF pour en faire la publicité à chacun de tes messages, et inscrire des sites web sous chacun de tes messages, mais sois réaliste : le fait que ce soit aparemment bien pour toi perso, ne signifie pas forcément que c'est une destination idéale pour seniors qui voudraient de nos jours y prendre leur retraite.
Mada a son charme pour les francophones mais pour les connaisseurs exigeants sur certains critères, ça reste une destination bas de gamme pour y prendre sa retraite, d'où son absence dans le Top 10 du classement en question;
c'est quoi le top 10 on choisit le lieu de sa retraite sur catalogue ? je suis mort de rire....
Madagascar, ça te convient et tu utilises VF pour en faire la publicité à chacun de tes messages, et inscrire des sites web sous chacun de tes messages, ^ non, le premier site est simplement un blog perso, ma maison a Mananara, bientot il y aura celle de Tamatave... l'autre est le site d'un de mes amis... .mais sois réaliste : le fait que ce soit aparemment bien pour toi perso, ne signifie pas forcément que c'est une destination idéale pour seniors qui voudraient de nos jours y prendre leur retraite. j'en connais beaucoup qui y sont heureux et y trouvent leur "idéal" dont certains sur ce forum, mais je leur laisse la plume...Ils le diront eux meme. Ensuite, le mot "Idéal" est un peu galvaudé, y aurait il un catalogue pour cela ? chacun a le sien et apres plusieurs visites ou séjours, on peut décider d'y vivre heureux. chacun a ses critères et ... Ses moyens, voilà, côté moyens , j'ai déja répondu, si c'est cela ton idéal, bof ! j'ai vécu en des endroits plus cossus, Canada, US, Polynésie, et c'est Mada que j'ai choisi, ah ah tu vas me dire : - Mauvais choix ? sous quel critère ? tu n'as pas répondu......
et Entre nous , ceux qui partent au Maroc achetent un riad, et qui croient a l'eldorado, ne sont pas mieux lotis, ni plus mal, si c'est eux qui ont choisi. perso, j'aimerais pas....
c'est quoi le top 10 on choisit le lieu de sa retraite sur catalogue ? je suis mort de rire....
Madagascar, ça te convient et tu utilises VF pour en faire la publicité à chacun de tes messages, et inscrire des sites web sous chacun de tes messages, ^ non, le premier site est simplement un blog perso, ma maison a Mananara, bientot il y aura celle de Tamatave... l'autre est le site d'un de mes amis... .mais sois réaliste : le fait que ce soit aparemment bien pour toi perso, ne signifie pas forcément que c'est une destination idéale pour seniors qui voudraient de nos jours y prendre leur retraite. j'en connais beaucoup qui y sont heureux et y trouvent leur "idéal" dont certains sur ce forum, mais je leur laisse la plume...Ils le diront eux meme. Ensuite, le mot "Idéal" est un peu galvaudé, y aurait il un catalogue pour cela ? chacun a le sien et apres plusieurs visites ou séjours, on peut décider d'y vivre heureux. chacun a ses critères et ... Ses moyens, voilà, côté moyens , j'ai déja répondu, si c'est cela ton idéal, bof ! j'ai vécu en des endroits plus cossus, Canada, US, Polynésie, et c'est Mada que j'ai choisi, ah ah tu vas me dire : - Mauvais choix ? sous quel critère ? tu n'as pas répondu......
et Entre nous , ceux qui partent au Maroc achetent un riad, et qui croient a l'eldorado, ne sont pas mieux lotis, ni plus mal, si c'est eux qui ont choisi. perso, j'aimerais pas....
Il y a un sujet peu ou pas abordé sur ce site : les destinations (pas forcément à la mode) où tous paramètres confondus, on vit une retraite heureuse en "happy few".
Fort Lauderdale, Floride. 😏
Fort Lauderdale, Floride. 😏
Effectivement la Floride c'est pas mal, surtout si on maîtrise bien l'Anglais.
Ceux qui ont choisi le maroc apprécierons : ce qui est certain c'est qu'il n'y a pas photo entre un riad et les paillotes primitives que tu nous as montré...
oui, mais j'ai les moyens de mes envies, la paillote que j'ai a Tamatave fait 300 m², en dur (ancienne coloniale) et celle que j'ai a Toulouse est bien aussi, tu as un riad ?
J'ai un château ...en Espagne :-))
C'est un pays en devenir en devenir, et interessant pour qui parle bien l'Anglais.
je vois, avant de dire quelque chose, il faut avoir quelque chose a montrer, sinon ce sont des paroles en l'air, , joyeux rêves :!!
J'ai aussi un oncle...en Amérique qui a une cabane...au Canada :-))
RAVALOMANANA ho FILOHA !
ravalomanana ho filoha ????🏴☠️ mampiomehy ahy ianao 😉
ravalomanana ho filoha ????🏴☠️ mampiomehy ahy ianao 😉
Lui aussi, il pensait avoir (tous) les moyens de ses envies: on voit comment ça a fini :-))
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I’d like to move to Spain, specifically to Málaga. To do that, I’d like to know if I’ll need any official documents from France to work there, or anything like that... I’d also love to hear from people who’ve moved to Spain for work—do Spaniards like the French? Is it hard to fit in? What are the salary ranges for a ready-to-wear salesperson? And is it easy to find housing?
Thanks! 🙂
I’d like to move to Spain, specifically to Málaga. To do that, I’d like to know if I’ll need any official documents from France to work there, or anything like that... I’d also love to hear from people who’ve moved to Spain for work—do Spaniards like the French? Is it hard to fit in? What are the salary ranges for a ready-to-wear salesperson? And is it easy to find housing?
Thanks! 🙂
Hi there,
TELI Club shares summer job offers in Canada—if you're tempted by a job as a camp counselor in Canada, you should know there’s now a specific work visa for that. All the info is here: https://www.canada.ca/fr/immigration-refugies-citoyennete/services/travailler-canada/permis/moniteur-camp-residentiel.html#type
TELI Club shares summer job offers in Canada—if you're tempted by a job as a camp counselor in Canada, you should know there’s now a specific work visa for that. All the info is here: https://www.canada.ca/fr/immigration-refugies-citoyennete/services/travailler-canada/permis/moniteur-camp-residentiel.html#type
Hi everyone! 👨🏾🤝👨🏻
My partner and I currently live in Antibes—we’re both freelancers working remotely. We’re thinking about potentially moving to Italy.
We’d like to settle near the French border, between Ventimiglia and San Remo (this is important because we need access to Nice Airport twice a month). ✈️
I’d love to hear about life in this region! We’re looking for a quiet spot close to the sea. Any recommendations? As for the paperwork, is it difficult to get everything official? Is finding housing tough in this area? What kind of guarantees are usually required? If any kind soul could shed some light on this, we’d really appreciate it! 🥺🏻
Thanks so much for your help and advice! ☺️
My partner and I currently live in Antibes—we’re both freelancers working remotely. We’re thinking about potentially moving to Italy.
We’d like to settle near the French border, between Ventimiglia and San Remo (this is important because we need access to Nice Airport twice a month). ✈️
I’d love to hear about life in this region! We’re looking for a quiet spot close to the sea. Any recommendations? As for the paperwork, is it difficult to get everything official? Is finding housing tough in this area? What kind of guarantees are usually required? If any kind soul could shed some light on this, we’d really appreciate it! 🥺🏻
Thanks so much for your help and advice! ☺️
I'm looking for an au pair who'd like to come to Bournemouth in the south of England, and I'd love to know what the best websites are to find one, please.
Hi everyone,
I’d like to get some information about my eligibility for the DV Lottery.
About my background: • I earned a *Bac Pro* through VAE (*Validation des Acquis de l’Expérience*), issued by the *Éducation nationale*. • I also have a professional certification as a *Conseiller en Insertion* (Employment Counselor), issued by the Ministry of Labor. • Altogether, this adds up to a *Bac+2* level.
I’d like to know if this level qualifies me to apply for the DV Lottery.
Regarding my work experience: • I work as an *Employment Counselor*. • I checked on O*Net Online for the classification: Job Zone 4, SVP Range: 7.0 – <8.0. • I only have one year of experience, but I handle similar tasks in business creation.
So my question is: can I apply for the DV Lottery despite my relatively short experience, given that my job falls under Job Zone 4?
Thanks in advance for your answers and advice! !
I’d like to get some information about my eligibility for the DV Lottery.
About my background: • I earned a *Bac Pro* through VAE (*Validation des Acquis de l’Expérience*), issued by the *Éducation nationale*. • I also have a professional certification as a *Conseiller en Insertion* (Employment Counselor), issued by the Ministry of Labor. • Altogether, this adds up to a *Bac+2* level.
I’d like to know if this level qualifies me to apply for the DV Lottery.
Regarding my work experience: • I work as an *Employment Counselor*. • I checked on O*Net Online for the classification: Job Zone 4, SVP Range: 7.0 – <8.0. • I only have one year of experience, but I handle similar tasks in business creation.
So my question is: can I apply for the DV Lottery despite my relatively short experience, given that my job falls under Job Zone 4?
Thanks in advance for your answers and advice! !
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for info on villages around Aix, like Fuveau, Bouc-Bel-Air, or even Éguilles and Venelles? We’re a couple with a child living in the Paris region, and I’ll be relocating to Aix-en-Provence in spring 2026. We’d love to swap our apartment for a house with a pool within 20-30 minutes max of central Aix, with a budget of around 650k €.
In terms of climate and geography, I’ve read that Aix is in a basin where it can get really hot. What about the surrounding villages that are a bit more elevated, like Venelles? Is it just as stifling?
For a family, which area would you recommend?
Thanks in advance for your replies!
I’m looking for info on villages around Aix, like Fuveau, Bouc-Bel-Air, or even Éguilles and Venelles? We’re a couple with a child living in the Paris region, and I’ll be relocating to Aix-en-Provence in spring 2026. We’d love to swap our apartment for a house with a pool within 20-30 minutes max of central Aix, with a budget of around 650k €.
In terms of climate and geography, I’ve read that Aix is in a basin where it can get really hot. What about the surrounding villages that are a bit more elevated, like Venelles? Is it just as stifling?
For a family, which area would you recommend?
Thanks in advance for your replies!
Starting this spring, we want to settle near Aix-en-Provence. We're tired of living in the mountains with all the snow—we really need some sunshine and a fresh start. Is it hard to find a house to rent there? What about prices? If you have any great tips or useful info about the area, we’d love to hear it. I work in education and want to do prevention work in Marseille or Aix—are there jobs in the social sector?
Anyway, we need tons of info, but we’re sure we’re going to take the leap—no hesitation, adventure is adventure!!! Thanks for your help and any experiences you can share.
Anyway, we need tons of info, but we’re sure we’re going to take the leap—no hesitation, adventure is adventure!!! Thanks for your help and any experiences you can share.
Hi,
I’m an osteopath and I’d like to set up and open an osteopathy practice in Thailand. I don’t have a precise location in mind yet, but I’m thinking maybe Hua Hin. I saw there’s an osteopath based in Phuket, so I wrote to him for some info, but he still hasn’t replied🤪!
So I’m reaching out to people who live there or know the country well: I’d like to know what the best ways are to advertise and get known in Thailand. Are there any local classifieds newspapers? First, I’d like to practice from my apartment. Is that allowed in Thailand? Ideally, I’d like to work part-time in a private hospital as an osteopath. I’m thinking that in Thailand, the medical field is much more open than in Europe!!! Has anyone seen an osteopath or chiropractor working in a Thai hospital? Do you know the price of a consultation?
Any info you can share will be super helpful! Thanks in advance[;)!!!]
I’m an osteopath and I’d like to set up and open an osteopathy practice in Thailand. I don’t have a precise location in mind yet, but I’m thinking maybe Hua Hin. I saw there’s an osteopath based in Phuket, so I wrote to him for some info, but he still hasn’t replied🤪!
So I’m reaching out to people who live there or know the country well: I’d like to know what the best ways are to advertise and get known in Thailand. Are there any local classifieds newspapers? First, I’d like to practice from my apartment. Is that allowed in Thailand? Ideally, I’d like to work part-time in a private hospital as an osteopath. I’m thinking that in Thailand, the medical field is much more open than in Europe!!! Has anyone seen an osteopath or chiropractor working in a Thai hospital? Do you know the price of a consultation?
Any info you can share will be super helpful! Thanks in advance[;)!!!]
Hello everyone,
We’re a small family from the south of France, with a 2-year-old little boy, and we’re dreaming of starting a new adventure abroad by opening our own business. For now, we haven’t chosen a specific destination yet.
We mainly speak French, with a basic level of Spanish and English, and we’re ready to improve these two languages if needed. We’re looking for a multicultural, safe country with quality healthcare and good schools accessible for our son. We’d also love a pleasant place with a mild climate where life is good.
Our idea is to travel to different countries to explore, compare, and refine our project. We’d be really happy to read your tips, experiences, or anecdotes if you’ve already undertaken a similar project or if you know key points to anticipate.
Thanks in advance for your shares and help—it would really help us move forward with our project! 😄
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Dublin as an au pair in a few weeks.
I’m looking for a reputable language school. It’s so hard to choose! Has anyone already done a language stay in Dublin? Any tips? Thanks so much! :)
Hi everyone, so I’m planning to go study at a community college in the U.S., but the only snag is which one—there are so many options over there! I’ve heard about one in California, Diablo Valley College, and another in Florida, Valencia College. I know both states are super attractive for tourism, but my main criteria are teaching quality and price. I’m open to any advice, comments, or suggestions—thanks in advance! The start of the semester is coming up, and I’m a little nervous...
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Has anyone gone on a language study trip in Europe? If so, which agencies did you use? What can you tell me about it? Thanks a lot! Kelkune
Has anyone gone on a language study trip in Europe? If so, which agencies did you use? What can you tell me about it? Thanks a lot! Kelkune
Hi! I’m looking for an apartment in Malaga from September (2025) until January for my Erasmus exchange, but I’m not finding much, and it seems like there are a lot of scams. Does anyone have any leads or tips? Thanks!^^