Merci du lien.
Mais je repose ma question :
Un retraité résident marocain est -il imposé au Maroc sur la part de retraite laissée en France ?
Car la convention fiscale entre les deux pays évite la double imposition : imposition au Maroc sur les revenus marocains et en France sur les revenus français.
Il me semble ...
Autre question, dans le lien que tu me donnes, il y a une première option : "ll ne transfère rien au Maroc" . Mais alors sur quelles ressources vit-il ???
*** il y a une première option : "ll ne transfère rien au Maroc" . Mais alors sur quelles ressources vit-il ??? ***
je connais un retraité qui ne transfère rien au Maroc, il a un compte en France, et il prélève quelques liasses de billets au DAB selon ses besoins.
et il est surement pas le seul.
Un retraité résident marocain est -il imposé au Maroc sur la part de retraite laissée en France ?
Je pense que, dans tous les cas de figure, un français résident au Maroc est fiscalement domicilié dans ce pays et y paie ses impôts, que ce soit sur une retraite française (transférée ou non) ou sur des revenus de source marocaine...
je connais un retraité qui ne transfère rien au Maroc, il a un compte en France, et il prélève quelques liasses de billets au DAB selon ses besoins. et il est surement pas le seul.
Effectivement! J'en connais même qui, résidents, ne déclarent rien, ni au Maroc ni en France...
Une situation qui risque de mal finir un jour ou l'autre...
😕
AJFT
C'est sûr qu'il y a des gens qui cherchent les ennuis...
Tant pis pour eux, c'est leur problème !
Je ne suis pas retraitée, mais en lisant ces échanges ça m'a surprise qu'on puisse être imposé au Maroc, pour quelqu'un qui a le statut de résident bien sûr, sur des revenus restés en France.
Je pensais que la part laissée en France était imposée en France, comme les revenus fonciers.
Je pensais que la part laissée en France était imposée en France, comme les revenus fonciers.
Effectivement, si j'ai bien tout compris, les revenus fonciers, et les taxes foncières et d'habitation des biens en France, sont imposables, déclarables et payables en France.
Ce qui fait l'objet de la convention franco-marocaine, pour les retraités français ayant au Maroc le statut de "résident" (donc ayant, au regard tant de la France que du Maroc, leur "domicile fiscal" au Maroc), ce sont "les pensions servies par une caisse de retraite française"; que ces pensions soient transférées, en totalité, en partie, ou pas du tout, ne change rien. Sauf en ce qui concerne le montant à payer, la réduction d'impôt de 80% ne s'appliquant qu'aux revenus transférés.
Mais je ne suis pas fiscaliste, juste contribuable au Maroc...
😉
Oui, j'ai bien relu attentivement le site du consulat, c'est bien ça.
Seuls les revenus fonciers et taxes s'y afférent, sont imposables en France.
J'ai appris quelque chose ...😉
Bonsoir Raoulx,
Une question sur l’immatriculation de véhicule,
J’ai noté deux choses
1° tu ne peux circuler au Maroc avec un véhicule immatriculé dans un pays européen, que pendant 6 mois
2° tu n'as pas la possibilité d'immatriculer un véhicule local sans être résident...
Cela bloque donc une personne non résidente qui séjournerait au Maroc plus de 6 mois.
Reste deux possibilités:
la location longue durée
ou
si cela est juridiquement acceptable pour le Maroc faire tous les 6 mois une sortie/entrée du territoire Marocain pour le véhicule immatriculé en Europe???
Merci pour cet éclairage
Pier
toutes ces choses font l'objet de réponses régulières sur ce forum.
* ** Cela bloque donc une personne non résidente qui séjournerait au Maroc plus de 6 mois. ***
une personne qui vit plus de 6 mois devient obligatoirement résidente et doit faire les démarches pour obtenir sa carte de résident.
Le visiteur a un visa valable pour un séjour de 3 mois , qui peut etre renouvelé pour un motif valable , 3 mois de plus.
La législation sur les personnes dépend de la police.
L'informatique s'améliore, de moins en moins passent au travers du filet.
* ** faire tous les 6 mois une sortie/entrée du territoire Marocain pour le véhicule immatriculé en Europe??? ***
illusoire !
une voiture ne peut séjourner qu'au maximum 183 jours par année civile , au dela elle doit obligatoirement etre dédouanée, et cela dès le premier jour !
La législation sur les véhicules dépend des douanes !
Les douanes ont un système informatique efficace !
Ta deuxième solution n'est pas possible, car pour les véhicules c'est différent des personnes.
c'est 6 mois sur le territoire par année civile !
En une fois, ou en cumul de petites périodes.
Au delà c'est le dédouanement obligatoire ou la sortie du territoire.
Bonsoir Michagadir & 1234FP,
voici un vaste sujet..... Un arbitrage s'impose entre ces différentes possibilités, et, malgré l'aspect attractif d'une déduction de 80% quelques interrogations sur un transfert complet du montant de la retraite si nous ne vivons que 6 mois/an au Maroc.
S'offre à nous une autre piste à creuser, étant double national Français et Suisse, il peut être plus sécurisant de faire verser la retraite en se rattachant fiscalement en Suisse et ne pas opter pour le statut de résident Marocain.
Que de questions à éclairer... et merci pour ces échanges qui permettent d’avancer dans cette démarche en posant de solides fondations.
" .. S'offre à nous une autre piste à creuser, étant double national Français et Suisse, il peut être plus sécurisant de faire verser la retraite en se rattachant fiscalement en Suisse et ne pas opter pour le statut de résident Marocain... "
Effectivement, il peut ( peut être ) être envisagé une autre solution compte tenu de la double nationalité.
Je ne connais pas les règlementations pour les ressortissants autres que Français.
Cependant, il semblerait que , malgré ta double nationalité, tu bénéficies d'une pension versée par la France... et que ton domicile fiscal soit français !!
Je pense que les Marocains prendront ça en considération...
Suisse , Francais , ou inuit, les conditions de résidence sur le sol marocain sont les mêmes !
3 mois en visiteur , et obligatoirement résident au dela de 6 mois !
La seule différence possible pourrait etre que la Suisse n'ait pas signé de convention avec le Maroc, concernant les (énormes) avantages fiscaux des retraités.
des que tu passe plus de +6 mois au maroc tu est resident.
Bonsoir,
Non !Tu n'es pas automatiquement résident à partir de 6 mois de résidence !
simplement, passé ce délai qui est d'ailleurs de 3 mois et pas de 6, parfois prolongé, tu ne peux rester légalement sur le territoire sans demander de carte de résident.
Si tu restes au delà tu seras en infraction.
Si tu ne veux ou ne peux la demander, il te faut sortir du territoire.
des que tu passe plus de +6 mois au maroc tu est resident.
Bonsoir,
Non !Tu n'es pas automatiquement résident à partir de 6 mois de résidence !
simplement, passé ce délai qui est d'ailleurs de 3 mois et pas de 6, parfois prolongé, tu ne peux rester légalement sur le territoire sans demander de carte de résident.
Si tu restes au delà tu seras en infraction.
Si tu ne veux ou ne peux la demander, il te faut sortir du territoire.
et cette infraction coute très cher une fois quand je passé la Douane de Tanger ceux qui avait dépassé les 6 mois pour la voiture on eu de très lourde amende plus on dépasse plus on paye .
est-ce que c'est arrivé à quelqu'un de passer la douane au bout de 6 mois pour la voiture et de revenir 2 semaines après ??
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