Comment aller en Italie SANS carte d'identité,
En voiture !
hi
to recent travelers in South Africa,
I’ve heard there’s a document you need to present
when you arrive.
Can you help me out?
THANKS
Départ pour l'Italie dans sept jours: carte nationale d'identité et passeport périmés!
by Ju2noa2coco
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
L'italie étant dans la zone Schnegen, le passage à la douane n'est plus automatique. Cela ne dispense pas les douaniers d'effectuer des contôles. C'est rare mais il faut le prendre en considération.
le problème ici serait plus au niveau de la compagnie aérienne. Pour partager mon experience, j'ai fait il y a deux ans un Paris Orly - Mulhouse avec AF. Arrivé à Orly, je me rends compte que j'avais oublié mon passeport à mon domicile. Je n'avais aucun papier d'identité sur moi. Le passage du filtre de sécurité s'est bien passé. Je suis allé voir l'hotesse au sol à la porte d'embarquement et après moulte discussion - en compagnie d'un agent de sécurité - ils ont accepté de me faire monter dans l'avion en présentant la seule "pièce d'identité" avec photo que j'avais dans mon portefeuile: ma carte de membre Club Med Gym!!!! (désolé pour la pub)
Bien sur cela n'est absolument pas un généralité et je suis bien conscient du traitement exceptionnel auquel j'ai eu droit. Par contre l'agent de sécurité m'a dit que: 1./ cela """"peut"""" (et notez -bien les guillemets) passer dans la mesure où la Cie aérienne cherche plus à associer un nom à un visage (j'en doute un peu mais autant vous dire que j'ai fait profil bas et n'ai pas cherché à argumenter). 2./ plus intéressant, il m'a signifié que si on me posait un problème au retour (Mulhouse-Paris, deux jours après) je devais faire savoir a AF que dans la mesure où ils m'ont laissé partir, ils sont obligés de me faire revenir, donc l'hotesse sur le vol du retour ne peut pas me refuser au même motif.
Voila pour ma petite histoire, je ne cherche pas à savoir qui a tort ou raison, mais simplement vous faire part de cette expérience.
le problème ici serait plus au niveau de la compagnie aérienne. Pour partager mon experience, j'ai fait il y a deux ans un Paris Orly - Mulhouse avec AF. Arrivé à Orly, je me rends compte que j'avais oublié mon passeport à mon domicile. Je n'avais aucun papier d'identité sur moi. Le passage du filtre de sécurité s'est bien passé. Je suis allé voir l'hotesse au sol à la porte d'embarquement et après moulte discussion - en compagnie d'un agent de sécurité - ils ont accepté de me faire monter dans l'avion en présentant la seule "pièce d'identité" avec photo que j'avais dans mon portefeuile: ma carte de membre Club Med Gym!!!! (désolé pour la pub)
Bien sur cela n'est absolument pas un généralité et je suis bien conscient du traitement exceptionnel auquel j'ai eu droit. Par contre l'agent de sécurité m'a dit que: 1./ cela """"peut"""" (et notez -bien les guillemets) passer dans la mesure où la Cie aérienne cherche plus à associer un nom à un visage (j'en doute un peu mais autant vous dire que j'ai fait profil bas et n'ai pas cherché à argumenter). 2./ plus intéressant, il m'a signifié que si on me posait un problème au retour (Mulhouse-Paris, deux jours après) je devais faire savoir a AF que dans la mesure où ils m'ont laissé partir, ils sont obligés de me faire revenir, donc l'hotesse sur le vol du retour ne peut pas me refuser au même motif.
Voila pour ma petite histoire, je ne cherche pas à savoir qui a tort ou raison, mais simplement vous faire part de cette expérience.
Les postes frontières sont la plupart du temps vide dans l'espace Schengen, et si tu est un conducteur qui n'attire pas plus l'attention qu'un autre, il n'y a pas de raison de de faire arrêter et donc pas de raison de devoir justifier de ton identité. Tu passes les frontières sans même t'en apercevoir en voiture.
Je confirme, ca dépend de la compagnie.
Air France est moins exigeante, mais EasyJet et Ryanair n'étant pas elles mêmes dans l'espace schengen, exigent désormais des pièces d'identité non périmées.
J'ai pu voyager en france avec air france avec une pièce d'identité périmée depuis 12 ans. La dame m'a dit on fait juste le rapprochement avec la photo et le nom c'est tout.
Mais Ryanair est systématiques, et dans les mairies maintenant on vous informe que voyager avec un passeport périmé n'est plus possible depuis les passeports de 10 ans. (la règle des 5 ans de plus est en train de partir à l'oubliette, pour le voyage ne avion)
J'ai pu voyager en france avec air france avec une pièce d'identité périmée depuis 12 ans. La dame m'a dit on fait juste le rapprochement avec la photo et le nom c'est tout.
Mais Ryanair est systématiques, et dans les mairies maintenant on vous informe que voyager avec un passeport périmé n'est plus possible depuis les passeports de 10 ans. (la règle des 5 ans de plus est en train de partir à l'oubliette, pour le voyage ne avion)
Peux-tu me dire si finalement tu as pu prendre l'avion pour l'Italie avec ta cni périmée?
Il fallait peut être t'en soucier avant, je pense que tu es tres négligent, si tu perds ton voyage tu l'auras
bien mérité 😛
Non. j'ai testé, je suis parti avec le passeport périmé (c'était pour mon fils), et j'ai essayé de passer. Ils l'ont détecté tout de suite. J'ai donc donné mon passeport où on l'a inscris (j'ai une double nationalité). Et la c'était bon.
Je parle de Ryanair. Si c'était AirFrance peut être qu'ils auraient accepté.
Mais tout ca devient de plus en plus rigoureux depuis.
En plus c'était pour l'Espagne. Pour l'Italie ca a l'air d'être un peu plus souple, mais vaut mieux ne pas prendre le risque.
C'est toujours sympa les messages du genre "c'est bien fait pour toi, tu l'auras bien mérité"
Alors pour info, j'ai gagné un WE à Rome lundi pour un départ le samedi.
Nos cartes d'identité était périmées et il était trop tard pour en refaire.
Nous y sommes allés sans problème personne n'ayant vérifié la validité de nos cartes d'identité, départ avec AIR FRANCE et retour avec ALITALIA.
Nous avons passé un super WE avec concert de JAMES BLUNT en prime.
Maintenant nous allons refaire nos Cartes d'identité au cas où nous gagnerions encore un petit voyage...
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