Transit de plusieurs heures à Hong Kong: shopping et repos?
by Malaupa
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Nous avons un transit de plusieurs heures à l'aéroport de Hong Kong lors de notre retour de Thaïlande avec les Emirates : le shopping est-il intéressant ? Y a t'il un endroit où l'on peut se reposer ?
Merci de partager vos expériences.
C'est l'un des meilleurs aéroports au monde, je ne sais pas de combien de temps tu disposes, mais vu son étendu, tu mets un peu de temps à la parcourir.
Pour le shopping, je ne sais pas ce que tu recherches, mais c'est du duty free de "luxe" que de grandes enseignes.
Pour te reposer, t'as tout un coin food court où tu peux grignoter un peu et te reposer.
Maintenant, si tu disposes d'au moins 6h de transit, et en fonction de l'heure de ton vol, profites en pour aller en ville, c'est assez vite fait par le train.
Salut,
Plusieurs heures = ?
Plusieurs heures = ?
Le bon voyageur se ris de veau frontières.
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En tout premier lieu, merci pour ta réponse.
Nous aurons 7 heures entre les 2 vols mais entre 17h40 et 00h35 ; peut-être pas les meilleures heures pour aller en ville. Peut-on au moins sortir de l'aéroport prendre l'air ou bien est-on confiné dans le bâtiment comme à Dubaï ?
Question shopping : peut-être parfums et Ipod pour ma fille : est-ce plus intéressant là-bas qu'à Bangkok ville ou aéroport ou Dubaï aéroport ?
Merci d'avance.
Même si c'est à ces heures-là, ça peut être intéressant d'aller faire un tour en ville ! (bon ok le transport coûtera quelque chose comme 20€ pour deux, par l'airport express), mais c'est pas mal.
L'aéroport étant excentré par rapport à la ville, sortir ne mènera à rien. Si vous voulez sortir, autant prendre le train jusqu'en ville !
Le bon voyageur se ris de veau frontières.
Flights : http://openflights.org/user/Mathmoica Random pictures : http://streamzoo.com/user/mathmoica/
Flights : http://openflights.org/user/Mathmoica Random pictures : http://streamzoo.com/user/mathmoica/
... entre 17h40 et 00h35 ; peut-être pas les meilleures heures pour aller en ville ...
Mais si ! mais si !
Allez-y plutôt en bus (N°A21, 33$HK, 45'/60') pour traverser les rues illuminées et aller jusqu'au Kowloon Public Pier pour admirer la vue de Hong Kong Island


Mais si ! mais si !
Allez-y plutôt en bus (N°A21, 33$HK, 45'/60') pour traverser les rues illuminées et aller jusqu'au Kowloon Public Pier pour admirer la vue de Hong Kong Island


"Nous ne sommes plus une communauté d'être humains qui se parlent mais un conglomérat de grappes de consommateurs en niches, séparés les uns des autres par des obsessions diverses et innombrables. Nous sommes de l'ère de la désintégration." Marc Moulin (1942-2008) in Humoeurs
Belles photos !
J'aurais besoin de quelques précisions :
- Sûr de ne pas rater le vol retour dans ce laps de temps ? Combien de temps avant le vol suivant doit-on être de retour à l'aéroport ?
- Sécurité en ville pour 3 filles (1 adulte et 2 pré-ados) ?
- 33$HK = A combien d'€ cela correspond-il ? Est-ce un prix par personne ?
- Peut-on régler en euros (transport et autres faux-frais) si petit tour en ville ?
Merci d'avance
Sisi, il faut passer l'immigration (c'est plutôt rapide), pas de récupération de bagages enregistrés puisque vous êtes en transit.
Belles photos ! J'aurais besoin de quelques précisions : - Sûr de ne pas rater le vol retour dans ce laps de temps ? Combien de temps avant le vol suivant doit-on être de retour à l'aéroport ?
Si vos sièges sont déjà enregistrés, 1h30 avant ça devrait faire l'affaire. Franchement y a le temps pour une virée en ville!
- Sécurité en ville pour 3 filles (1 adulte et 2 pré-ados) ?
Aucun problème. A part les attaques à l'acide, mais il n'y en a pas eu depuis un certain temps (évite Kowloon si tu en as vraiment peur ^^)
- 33$HK = A combien d'€ cela correspond-il ? Est-ce un prix par personne ?
Diviser par 10 environ.
- Peut-on régler en euros (transport et autres faux-frais) si petit tour en ville ? Merci d'avance
T'es en Asie, pas en Europe ! :) Change le minimum à l'aéroport, par contre je ne sais pas si les banques (là où il faut changer l'argent) sont encore ouvertes vers 18h30, ça m'étonnerait. Sinon tu peux ptet essayer de changer dans le pays de provenance, ce sera ptet plus intéressant. Niveau argent, prévoir 8€ pour manger très convenablement, par personne.
Belles photos ! J'aurais besoin de quelques précisions : - Sûr de ne pas rater le vol retour dans ce laps de temps ? Combien de temps avant le vol suivant doit-on être de retour à l'aéroport ?
Si vos sièges sont déjà enregistrés, 1h30 avant ça devrait faire l'affaire. Franchement y a le temps pour une virée en ville!
- Sécurité en ville pour 3 filles (1 adulte et 2 pré-ados) ?
Aucun problème. A part les attaques à l'acide, mais il n'y en a pas eu depuis un certain temps (évite Kowloon si tu en as vraiment peur ^^)
- 33$HK = A combien d'€ cela correspond-il ? Est-ce un prix par personne ?
Diviser par 10 environ.
- Peut-on régler en euros (transport et autres faux-frais) si petit tour en ville ? Merci d'avance
T'es en Asie, pas en Europe ! :) Change le minimum à l'aéroport, par contre je ne sais pas si les banques (là où il faut changer l'argent) sont encore ouvertes vers 18h30, ça m'étonnerait. Sinon tu peux ptet essayer de changer dans le pays de provenance, ce sera ptet plus intéressant. Niveau argent, prévoir 8€ pour manger très convenablement, par personne.
Le bon voyageur se ris de veau frontières.
Flights : http://openflights.org/user/Mathmoica Random pictures : http://streamzoo.com/user/mathmoica/
Flights : http://openflights.org/user/Mathmoica Random pictures : http://streamzoo.com/user/mathmoica/
Il faut compter 1h de trajet en bus de l'aéroport à Nathan Road.
Descendre à hauteur de la Kowloon Mosque.
Repérer l'arrêt du bus de l'autre côté de Nathan Road pour le retour à l'aéroport
Traverser le quartier de Tsim Sha Tsui vers le Sud (compter 1/2 h)
Admirer le panorama
Pour le retour, compter 1/2 h pour rejoindre l'arrêt du bus puis 1 h pour rejoindre l'aéroport (bus tous les 1/4 h environ)
Sécurité : pas de problème si ce n'est de se perdre dans la foule, restez bien groupé. Quelques rabatteurs pour montre rolex ou massage !!
33$HK = environ 4 Euro Change obligatoire ou plus rapide retirer x Euro dans un distributeur à l'aéroport.
On peut acheter son billet à un guichet près du départ des bus à l'aéroport mais pour le retour il faut verser le montant exact (ou plus) dans une "caisse" près du chauffeur (pas de change) Il est peut être possible d'acheter les ticket retour au guichet à l'aéroport mais je n'en sais rien !
L'Euro n'est pas accepté pour le payement tout comme le $HK n'est accepté en France, non ?
Pour ne pas rater l'avion faites-vous un petit timing et comptez être de retour à l'aéroport vers 23h00 et donc de prendre le bus retour du centre vers 22h00
Descendre à hauteur de la Kowloon Mosque.
Repérer l'arrêt du bus de l'autre côté de Nathan Road pour le retour à l'aéroport
Traverser le quartier de Tsim Sha Tsui vers le Sud (compter 1/2 h)
Admirer le panorama
Pour le retour, compter 1/2 h pour rejoindre l'arrêt du bus puis 1 h pour rejoindre l'aéroport (bus tous les 1/4 h environ)
Sécurité : pas de problème si ce n'est de se perdre dans la foule, restez bien groupé. Quelques rabatteurs pour montre rolex ou massage !!
33$HK = environ 4 Euro Change obligatoire ou plus rapide retirer x Euro dans un distributeur à l'aéroport.
On peut acheter son billet à un guichet près du départ des bus à l'aéroport mais pour le retour il faut verser le montant exact (ou plus) dans une "caisse" près du chauffeur (pas de change) Il est peut être possible d'acheter les ticket retour au guichet à l'aéroport mais je n'en sais rien !
L'Euro n'est pas accepté pour le payement tout comme le $HK n'est accepté en France, non ?
Pour ne pas rater l'avion faites-vous un petit timing et comptez être de retour à l'aéroport vers 23h00 et donc de prendre le bus retour du centre vers 22h00
"Nous ne sommes plus une communauté d'être humains qui se parlent mais un conglomérat de grappes de consommateurs en niches, séparés les uns des autres par des obsessions diverses et innombrables. Nous sommes de l'ère de la désintégration." Marc Moulin (1942-2008) in Humoeurs
Aucun problème. A part les attaques à l'acide, mais il n'y en a pas eu depuis un certain temps (évite Kowloon si tu en as vraiment peur ^^)
C'est quoi ce délire 🤪 Un fait d'hiver ne doit pas être monté en épingle 🏴☠️
... je ne sais pas si les banques (là où il faut changer l'argent) sont encore ouvertes vers 18h30, ça m'étonnerait
Les bureaux de change sont ouverts 24h/24h (pratiquement sûr)
Donc on peut retirer de l'argent et changer ce qui reste une fois revenu à l'aéroport
C'est quoi ce délire 🤪 Un fait d'hiver ne doit pas être monté en épingle 🏴☠️
... je ne sais pas si les banques (là où il faut changer l'argent) sont encore ouvertes vers 18h30, ça m'étonnerait
Les bureaux de change sont ouverts 24h/24h (pratiquement sûr)
Donc on peut retirer de l'argent et changer ce qui reste une fois revenu à l'aéroport
"Nous ne sommes plus une communauté d'être humains qui se parlent mais un conglomérat de grappes de consommateurs en niches, séparés les uns des autres par des obsessions diverses et innombrables. Nous sommes de l'ère de la désintégration." Marc Moulin (1942-2008) in Humoeurs
Pour te rendre à Hong Kong, tu n'as pas besoin de visa, ton passeport suffit pour une durée inférieur à 90 jours.
En ce qui concerne l'Airport express, tu mets à peine 25 minutes pour te rendre en plein centre d'Hong Kong, donc c'est quand même assez rapide. Les départs des trains ont lieu toutes les 12 minutes de l'aéroport ou bien d'Hong Kong, donc soit rassurée pour les délais. Compte grand maximum une dizaine d'euro par personne en aller retour de transport. http://www.mtr.com.hk/eng/airport_express/intro_index.html
Perso, je te conseil plus de te rendre au Peak pour avoir l'une des plus belles vues d'Hong Kong, surtout le soir. Je l'avais fait en journée, et je l'ai refait pour profiter des lumières, ça déchire (environ 6,50€ par personne pour le train et l'accès à la terrasse). Les départs des trains ont lieu toutes les 10 à 15 minutes, ouvert jusqu'à 23h pour la terrasse. http://www.thepeak.com.hk/en/2_1.asp
Maintenant pour le shopping, je sais que malgré que je sois non fumeur, c'est rentable à HKG (10€ la cartouche) pour les cigarettes. Pour le reste, je ne pourrais pas trop t'aider, je fais plutôt mes "courses" à Singapour quand je suis en transit. Je ne serais pas de bon conseil, désolé.
En ce qui concerne l'Airport express, tu mets à peine 25 minutes pour te rendre en plein centre d'Hong Kong, donc c'est quand même assez rapide. Les départs des trains ont lieu toutes les 12 minutes de l'aéroport ou bien d'Hong Kong, donc soit rassurée pour les délais. Compte grand maximum une dizaine d'euro par personne en aller retour de transport. http://www.mtr.com.hk/eng/airport_express/intro_index.html
Perso, je te conseil plus de te rendre au Peak pour avoir l'une des plus belles vues d'Hong Kong, surtout le soir. Je l'avais fait en journée, et je l'ai refait pour profiter des lumières, ça déchire (environ 6,50€ par personne pour le train et l'accès à la terrasse). Les départs des trains ont lieu toutes les 10 à 15 minutes, ouvert jusqu'à 23h pour la terrasse. http://www.thepeak.com.hk/en/2_1.asp
Maintenant pour le shopping, je sais que malgré que je sois non fumeur, c'est rentable à HKG (10€ la cartouche) pour les cigarettes. Pour le reste, je ne pourrais pas trop t'aider, je fais plutôt mes "courses" à Singapour quand je suis en transit. Je ne serais pas de bon conseil, désolé.
C'est quoi ce délire 🤪 Un fait d'hiver ne doit pas être monté en épingle 🏴☠️
Ce n'était pas le but de mon message ! C'est juste la seule chose "dangereuse" que je connaisse à HK (hormis le trafic of course).
Les bureaux de change sont ouverts 24h/24h (pratiquement sûr)
Donc on peut retirer de l'argent et changer ce qui reste une fois revenu à l'aéroport
Voui mais ce sont les banques qui ont le taux le plus intéressant. Après j'ignore si par bureau de change tu veux dire banque, auquel cas, oki je savais pas 😛
Je pense que ça peut être une bonne idée de prendre le bus au lieu de l'airport express (je dis ça, j'adore l'airport express :p), histoire d'avoir un plus gros aperçu qu'en train (qui est en partie souterrain), et c'est moins cher. Par contre l'airport express avec un billet same day return vous garantit d'être à l'heure !
Pour l'électronique, je ne sais aps si c'est plus intéressant à l'aéroport, mais dans certains endroits en ville ça peut l'être. Pros & cons : la plupart des magasins ferment vers 22h que ce soit en ville ou à l'aéroport. Donc si vous vous risquez à comparer les prix en ville et que c'est plus cher qu'à l'aéroport, vous n'aurez plus le temps d'aller acheter à l'aéroport. A mon avis, si vous voyez que c'est moins cher qu'en France à l'aéroport, achetez là-bas. Si vous voulez vous risquer en ville sans perdre de temps, dirigez-vous vers les magasins "fortress" (tiens d'ailleurs ils ont un site web, vous pourrez ptet comparer les prix)
Ce n'était pas le but de mon message ! C'est juste la seule chose "dangereuse" que je connaisse à HK (hormis le trafic of course).
Les bureaux de change sont ouverts 24h/24h (pratiquement sûr)
Donc on peut retirer de l'argent et changer ce qui reste une fois revenu à l'aéroport
Voui mais ce sont les banques qui ont le taux le plus intéressant. Après j'ignore si par bureau de change tu veux dire banque, auquel cas, oki je savais pas 😛
Je pense que ça peut être une bonne idée de prendre le bus au lieu de l'airport express (je dis ça, j'adore l'airport express :p), histoire d'avoir un plus gros aperçu qu'en train (qui est en partie souterrain), et c'est moins cher. Par contre l'airport express avec un billet same day return vous garantit d'être à l'heure !
Pour l'électronique, je ne sais aps si c'est plus intéressant à l'aéroport, mais dans certains endroits en ville ça peut l'être. Pros & cons : la plupart des magasins ferment vers 22h que ce soit en ville ou à l'aéroport. Donc si vous vous risquez à comparer les prix en ville et que c'est plus cher qu'à l'aéroport, vous n'aurez plus le temps d'aller acheter à l'aéroport. A mon avis, si vous voyez que c'est moins cher qu'en France à l'aéroport, achetez là-bas. Si vous voulez vous risquer en ville sans perdre de temps, dirigez-vous vers les magasins "fortress" (tiens d'ailleurs ils ont un site web, vous pourrez ptet comparer les prix)
Le bon voyageur se ris de veau frontières.
Flights : http://openflights.org/user/Mathmoica Random pictures : http://streamzoo.com/user/mathmoica/
Flights : http://openflights.org/user/Mathmoica Random pictures : http://streamzoo.com/user/mathmoica/
C'est juste la seule chose "dangereuse" que je connaisse à HK (hormis le trafic of course).
la seule chose "dangereuse" : les typhons
N'oublions pas que nous donnons des conseils, nous qui connaissons (un peu) les lieux à quelqu'un qui ne les connaît pas et qui en plus peut être (un peu) stressé par l'échéance de son vol retour.
Alors comme dit l'adage qui trop embrasse mal étreint et donc restons lucides et ne proposons pas de tout voir en un laps de temps qui permet aisément d'aller en ville et ce serait vraiment dommage de manquer cette vision furtive mais au combien majestueuse de Hong Kong.
Si tout se déroule sans pépins il pourrait être envisageable de traverser la baie sur un des star ferries(environ 2$HK seulement pour une petite 1/2 h de traversée, temps d'embarquement compris) et une fois de l'autre côté (sur l'île) revenir en train à l'aéroport.
Mais tout ça est bien plus facile quand on est décontracté ce qui ne sera probablement pas le cas ici
la seule chose "dangereuse" : les typhons
N'oublions pas que nous donnons des conseils, nous qui connaissons (un peu) les lieux à quelqu'un qui ne les connaît pas et qui en plus peut être (un peu) stressé par l'échéance de son vol retour.
Alors comme dit l'adage qui trop embrasse mal étreint et donc restons lucides et ne proposons pas de tout voir en un laps de temps qui permet aisément d'aller en ville et ce serait vraiment dommage de manquer cette vision furtive mais au combien majestueuse de Hong Kong.
Si tout se déroule sans pépins il pourrait être envisageable de traverser la baie sur un des star ferries(environ 2$HK seulement pour une petite 1/2 h de traversée, temps d'embarquement compris) et une fois de l'autre côté (sur l'île) revenir en train à l'aéroport.
Mais tout ça est bien plus facile quand on est décontracté ce qui ne sera probablement pas le cas ici
"Nous ne sommes plus une communauté d'être humains qui se parlent mais un conglomérat de grappes de consommateurs en niches, séparés les uns des autres par des obsessions diverses et innombrables. Nous sommes de l'ère de la désintégration." Marc Moulin (1942-2008) in Humoeurs
Oui mais les typhons ça ne s'évite pas, je pensais qu'on parlait de sécurité vis-à-vis des habitants quoi... 'fin bon je suis tout à fait d'accord avec toi sur le fond, t'inquiète pas 😉
Bref, visitez HK, vous pourrez vous reposer dans votre avion de 0035 ! :p
Le bon voyageur se ris de veau frontières.
Flights : http://openflights.org/user/Mathmoica Random pictures : http://streamzoo.com/user/mathmoica/
Flights : http://openflights.org/user/Mathmoica Random pictures : http://streamzoo.com/user/mathmoica/
... d'accord avec toi sur le fond, t'inquiète pas 😉
Je suppose que tu voulais dire le ti fond 😊
Je suppose que tu voulais dire le ti fond 😊
"Nous ne sommes plus une communauté d'être humains qui se parlent mais un conglomérat de grappes de consommateurs en niches, séparés les uns des autres par des obsessions diverses et innombrables. Nous sommes de l'ère de la désintégration." Marc Moulin (1942-2008) in Humoeurs
Merci encore pour ces précisions.
Comme le dit Ragamuffin, je suis un peu inquiète sur le risque éventuel de rater l'avion et donc très partagée entre tenter le coup et m'abstenir. Plusieurs posts indiquent que c'est faisable c'est vrai, mais en comptant les aléas toujours possibles... Bon, j'ai quand même le temps d'y réfléchir, c'est pour le mois d'août.
Le shopping à l'aéroport est vraiment sans intérêt... mais ce sera quand même la course pour aller dans la ville, et bien sûr, ce sera pour ne presque rien voir (tu ne pourras pas dire après "je suis allée à Hong Kong" 😉 !). Mais bon, à toi de voir.
Il n'y a effectivement pas besoin de visa. Mais il y a bien un passage à l'immigration, dont le temps est, comme partout, très variable selon l'arrivé d'autres avions (plus demi-heure il y a 15 jours). Attention aussi à ce que tu achèteras en ville : tu devras au retour passer les contrôles de sécurité et, si tes bagages sont déjà enregistrés, ne prends pas de boissons par exemples, elles seront confisquées.
- Sûr de ne pas rater le vol retour dans ce laps de temps ? Combien de temps avant le vol suivant doit-on être de retour à l'aéroport ? - Sécurité en ville pour 3 filles (1 adulte et 2 pré-ados) ? - 33$HK = A combien d'€ cela correspond-il ? Est-ce un prix par personne ? - Peut-on régler en euros (transport et autres faux-frais) si petit tour en ville ? Merci d'avance
Strictement aucun problème de sécurité.
Pas d'euros bien sûr (ce serait comme payer en dollars hongkongais en France...). En gros, 1 euro = 10 dollars, c'est très simple.
Il n'y a effectivement pas besoin de visa. Mais il y a bien un passage à l'immigration, dont le temps est, comme partout, très variable selon l'arrivé d'autres avions (plus demi-heure il y a 15 jours). Attention aussi à ce que tu achèteras en ville : tu devras au retour passer les contrôles de sécurité et, si tes bagages sont déjà enregistrés, ne prends pas de boissons par exemples, elles seront confisquées.
- Sûr de ne pas rater le vol retour dans ce laps de temps ? Combien de temps avant le vol suivant doit-on être de retour à l'aéroport ? - Sécurité en ville pour 3 filles (1 adulte et 2 pré-ados) ? - 33$HK = A combien d'€ cela correspond-il ? Est-ce un prix par personne ? - Peut-on régler en euros (transport et autres faux-frais) si petit tour en ville ? Merci d'avance
Strictement aucun problème de sécurité.
Pas d'euros bien sûr (ce serait comme payer en dollars hongkongais en France...). En gros, 1 euro = 10 dollars, c'est très simple.
Pour les produits de luxe, ça peut être intéressant avec la détaxe, et ça peut être bien pour dépanner. Alors effectivement pour les produits type iPod etc... autant aller en ville dans un magasin type Fortress (voui je me répète ^^).
Sur le nombre incalculable de fois où je suis passée par l'immigration de HK, le temps a rarement dépassé 30min. Ou bien on ne s'en n'est même pas rendus compte.
Je ne pense vraiment pas que ce soit le rush pour aller en ville. Bien sûr, vous ne pourrez pas visiter tout ce que vous voudrez, mais ne serait-ce que se balader en ville, avoir un aperçu de la vie à HK, manger un bout à HK, ça c'est bien possible.
Franchement vous ne devriez pas avoir d'hésitation à aller en ville à cause du timing.
Sur le nombre incalculable de fois où je suis passée par l'immigration de HK, le temps a rarement dépassé 30min. Ou bien on ne s'en n'est même pas rendus compte.
Je ne pense vraiment pas que ce soit le rush pour aller en ville. Bien sûr, vous ne pourrez pas visiter tout ce que vous voudrez, mais ne serait-ce que se balader en ville, avoir un aperçu de la vie à HK, manger un bout à HK, ça c'est bien possible.
Franchement vous ne devriez pas avoir d'hésitation à aller en ville à cause du timing.
Le bon voyageur se ris de veau frontières.
Flights : http://openflights.org/user/Mathmoica Random pictures : http://streamzoo.com/user/mathmoica/
Flights : http://openflights.org/user/Mathmoica Random pictures : http://streamzoo.com/user/mathmoica/
C'est pas faux 😏
Mais les prix de l'électronique rejoignent parfois ceux de France, pour quelques produits... Va savoir pourquoi 🤪
Le bon voyageur se ris de veau frontières.
Flights : http://openflights.org/user/Mathmoica Random pictures : http://streamzoo.com/user/mathmoica/
Flights : http://openflights.org/user/Mathmoica Random pictures : http://streamzoo.com/user/mathmoica/
Si tu veux etre sur de ne pas rater ton avion tu pars 2 heures avant ton vol, vu que tu seras déjà enregistre. A 3 tu peux prendre le taxi : 200 HKD, 30 mins, moi j'irais quand même voir la baie de HKG de nuit a TST, c'est magique (2eme photo de Ragamuffin) 😉
Pour répondre aux autres posts: Le gars qui balançait de l'acide c'est fait arrêté il y a un an je crois bien ..... donc ? ... Quand aux typhons, aucun risque a HKG, la prevention est top niveau..... donc vous serez prévenu bien a l'avance.....et pas de transport si c'est un 8.
Hong Kong est une ville ultra sure sinon
Pour répondre aux autres posts: Le gars qui balançait de l'acide c'est fait arrêté il y a un an je crois bien ..... donc ? ... Quand aux typhons, aucun risque a HKG, la prevention est top niveau..... donc vous serez prévenu bien a l'avance.....et pas de transport si c'est un 8.
Hong Kong est une ville ultra sure sinon
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Tara
Hi there,
We’re arriving as a group of three in Tokyo on Saturday, October 17th, then heading straight to Kyoto by direct train. On Sunday and Monday, we’ll explore Kyoto, and in the evening, we’ll take a train to Osaka to spend the night. On Tuesday, we’ll pick up a rental car at Itami Airport for a 6-day/5-night road trip around Shikoku: - 2 nights in the Iya Valley - Thursday morning, we’ll head to Matsuyama for 2 nights. - Saturday, we’ll visit Mima (town, a few temples + overnight stay) and return on Sunday to drop off the car in Osaka. We’ll leave very early on Monday the 26th by plane for Aomori in northern Honshu, where we’ll pick up another rental car at the airport for a 5-day/4-night trip: - Day 1: Tsugaru Peninsula (Takayam Inari, Cape Tappi, Kanita); overnight in Kanita - Day 2: Ferry transfer to the Mutsu Peninsula (cliffs, Lake Usori); overnight in Shimofuro - Day 3: Head to the Hakkoda Mountains and onsens galore; overnight TBD - Day 4: Return the car in Aomori by noon and explore the city before taking the train to Tokyo in the evening We’ll spend Friday night in Tokyo, wander around on Saturday, and head home on Sunday.
Thoughts on the road feasibility of this trip? We’ll be there right in the middle of Koyo season, so it’ll be busy... I know it’s a lot of driving, but there are two of us who can take turns. We’re not afraid of driving, even in the mountains and on the left side! Just wondering, are we going to be rushing, or is this manageable? AI says it’s all good, but it’s not the one driving... Any tips for booking accommodations in the Iya Valley? Not many places have email addresses or websites (I know Booking.com exists, but not all listings are on there... and given the season, I think it’s better to book ahead!). Same question applies for northern Honshu. For the rental car, I’m thinking of going with Alamo since at least it’s in French and straightforward, but are there any direct rental companies with user-friendly websites (Toyota Rentacar, ugh... 🏴☠️)? Another question: With so many trains, is it even necessary to book them in advance? Can we just go to the ticket counter and grab seats on the spot? For paying for the rental car, do we need a credit or debit card?
Thanks for your help!
We’re arriving as a group of three in Tokyo on Saturday, October 17th, then heading straight to Kyoto by direct train. On Sunday and Monday, we’ll explore Kyoto, and in the evening, we’ll take a train to Osaka to spend the night. On Tuesday, we’ll pick up a rental car at Itami Airport for a 6-day/5-night road trip around Shikoku: - 2 nights in the Iya Valley - Thursday morning, we’ll head to Matsuyama for 2 nights. - Saturday, we’ll visit Mima (town, a few temples + overnight stay) and return on Sunday to drop off the car in Osaka. We’ll leave very early on Monday the 26th by plane for Aomori in northern Honshu, where we’ll pick up another rental car at the airport for a 5-day/4-night trip: - Day 1: Tsugaru Peninsula (Takayam Inari, Cape Tappi, Kanita); overnight in Kanita - Day 2: Ferry transfer to the Mutsu Peninsula (cliffs, Lake Usori); overnight in Shimofuro - Day 3: Head to the Hakkoda Mountains and onsens galore; overnight TBD - Day 4: Return the car in Aomori by noon and explore the city before taking the train to Tokyo in the evening We’ll spend Friday night in Tokyo, wander around on Saturday, and head home on Sunday.
Thoughts on the road feasibility of this trip? We’ll be there right in the middle of Koyo season, so it’ll be busy... I know it’s a lot of driving, but there are two of us who can take turns. We’re not afraid of driving, even in the mountains and on the left side! Just wondering, are we going to be rushing, or is this manageable? AI says it’s all good, but it’s not the one driving... Any tips for booking accommodations in the Iya Valley? Not many places have email addresses or websites (I know Booking.com exists, but not all listings are on there... and given the season, I think it’s better to book ahead!). Same question applies for northern Honshu. For the rental car, I’m thinking of going with Alamo since at least it’s in French and straightforward, but are there any direct rental companies with user-friendly websites (Toyota Rentacar, ugh... 🏴☠️)? Another question: With so many trains, is it even necessary to book them in advance? Can we just go to the ticket counter and grab seats on the spot? For paying for the rental car, do we need a credit or debit card?
Thanks for your help!
I saw there are several "authentic" villages about 90/100 km from Beijing.
Including: Lingshui, Liuliqu, Sangyu, Miaoying, and Cuandixia.
Has anyone visited any of them? I was thinking of choosing Cuandixia—what do you think?
Thanks in advance.
Hi everyone!
It seems there’s a flea market in Tianjin that’s way more interesting than the one in Beijing. I’ve been searching online but can’t find the right one… The one I’m looking for is called gu wan shi chang (my PC won’t display the Chinese characters…). Does anyone have the address and has anyone been there before? The one in Beijing has lost a lot of its charm over the past 10 years, so I wanted to find another. Thanks!
Hi there,
I’m staying in Atami for 2 nights in October. I was thinking of exploring the area and trying to see Mount Fuji.
I was planning to go to Shizuoka. And also enjoy the onsen (hot springs).
Don’t hesitate to share any tips or recommendations—I’d love to hear them!
Thanks in advance.
I’m staying in Atami for 2 nights in October. I was thinking of exploring the area and trying to see Mount Fuji.
I was planning to go to Shizuoka. And also enjoy the onsen (hot springs).
Don’t hesitate to share any tips or recommendations—I’d love to hear them!
Thanks in advance.
Hi there,
Can anyone recommend a way to transfer from Narita Airport to Haneda Airport? Is the bus the simplest option? Thanks!
Hi,
My departure is coming up soon—two months backpacking in Taiwan, so much to discover! I’d love to hear about your travel experiences.
My main interests are meeting people, understanding how things work, hiking, and nature in general. I’ve also done a lot of reading about Taiwan’s complex situation. I do stone sculpture. I also want to visit Orchid Island for its history. Marie
My main interests are meeting people, understanding how things work, hiking, and nature in general. I’ve also done a lot of reading about Taiwan’s complex situation. I do stone sculpture. I also want to visit Orchid Island for its history. Marie
Hello,
I’m looking for advice from seasoned travelers about a roughly one-month trip to Japan. From late October to late November 2026.
We often travel in Southeast Asia but have never been to Japan. Based on what I’ve read, I’d love to hear your thoughts on:
- Is traveling day-to-day, without booking hotels or trains in advance, possible in Japan? (I’ve read many travel journals and blogs that say everything was booked way in advance… but that’s not how we usually travel.)
- Will the Japan Rail Pass be worth it for us? (According to an old simulator, I’m looking at around 400 € for trains compared to 570 € for the JRP.)
Here’s our rough itinerary (which may change):
- Arrival Osaka: 3 nights with Nara - Hiroshima and Miyajima Island: 3 nights - Kurashiki or Naoshima: 2 nights - Himeji: 1 night - Kyoto: 4 nights - Kanazawa: 2 nights - Takayama and Shirakawa-go: 3 nights - Around Mount Fuji: 3 nights - Tokyo with Nikko: 6 nights (no theme parks) Departure from Tokyo
Thanks for sharing your thoughts! :)
I’m looking for advice from seasoned travelers about a roughly one-month trip to Japan. From late October to late November 2026.
We often travel in Southeast Asia but have never been to Japan. Based on what I’ve read, I’d love to hear your thoughts on:
- Is traveling day-to-day, without booking hotels or trains in advance, possible in Japan? (I’ve read many travel journals and blogs that say everything was booked way in advance… but that’s not how we usually travel.)
- Will the Japan Rail Pass be worth it for us? (According to an old simulator, I’m looking at around 400 € for trains compared to 570 € for the JRP.)
Here’s our rough itinerary (which may change):
- Arrival Osaka: 3 nights with Nara - Hiroshima and Miyajima Island: 3 nights - Kurashiki or Naoshima: 2 nights - Himeji: 1 night - Kyoto: 4 nights - Kanazawa: 2 nights - Takayama and Shirakawa-go: 3 nights - Around Mount Fuji: 3 nights - Tokyo with Nikko: 6 nights (no theme parks) Departure from Tokyo
Thanks for sharing your thoughts! :)
Here are some tips from our 6-week trip (summer 2026) to China, Vietnam, and Cambodia. We traveled as a family of four with two kids aged 15 and 12.
I hope these notes help other travelers!
CHINA General You’ll need to download and set up a few apps: - Alipay and WeChat for payments (I didn’t withdraw a single bill the entire trip) - Didi for taxis - Amap = Chinese Maps (works great, especially for subways) - A translation app (we used Papago, but it sometimes gave weird results) - Google Lens for translating menus or signs—super handy. - HelloRide for bikes - Gemini and ChatGPT for everything: understanding daily life, enhancing visits, checking the weather, finding things. - HomeExchange if you want to lower travel costs (few listings in Asia except in big cities, often expats) - Trip.com is very useful, even essential, for trains, domestic flights, and hotels. Like Booking.com, the more you book with them, the more perks you get. So I’d even suggest checking flight tickets on this site, even if it’s a bit pricier. However, buying train tickets is complicated because (1) they only open 15 days in advance, and (2) they sell out fast. Trip.com just promises to buy them as soon as they’re available but doesn’t always succeed. It’s stressful and might force you to change your plans, especially if you’re aiming for a sleeper car and there are no seats left. Watch out for station names—many cities have multiple stations, including a high-speed rail one outside the city. For internet, we got the Asia plan from Holafly. It worked but seemed much slower than Chinese internet. I regretted not buying a Chinese SIM card because without internet in China, everything is VERY complicated (money, transport, etc.).
For the firewall, we used ExpressVPN, but it wasn’t always reliable. A bit disappointing. Ask ChatGPT for tips with screenshots to improve the settings.
Since we only had one SIM card with internet, we couldn’t rent shared bikes. If I were to do it again, I’d get a SIM for each person, even the kids, because distances in cities are huge. We walked *a lot*. Same goes for buses—it’s tricky with just one internet connection. Better to have a phone per person with internet. Book your visits as far in advance as possible—they often sell out. Watch out for power banks: if they don’t explicitly say "3C," they’ll confiscate it. Even if there’s a little airplane logo.
Shanghai In the evening, the streets leading to the Bund from the metro were so crowded that police were out in force blocking roads. Arrive early. We went around the north side.
Suzhou Be careful—there are two stations (common in China), and the high-speed rail one is 45–50 minutes from the old town. The Humble Administrator’s Garden was *packed*—we don’t recommend it. It turned into a marathon day from Shanghai (almost 4 hours from our hotel to the garden).
Beijing Forbidden City: Don’t go—I know it’s a shame, but it’s too crowded. I couldn’t buy tickets on the official site because of the kids’ passports. We ended up with a guided tour, the only way to get in (tickets sell out fast). The visit was disappointing—bad guide *and* massive crowds. You’ll queue a lot to enter and see certain areas. You’ll be checked often, so pack your bags carefully. Great Wall at Mutianyu: Crowded. Two hours by bus, and even though we arrived early, people were already leaving! I really think the best option is to leave your big bags in Beijing and stay overnight near the Wall. That way, you’ll have it to yourself a bit more. For transport: get off at Tiananmen Square metro and look for buses with official guides in bright yellow-green vests. No need to buy tickets online—they made me cancel mine to rebook on the spot. Buses leave when full. Note: the cable car and chairlift are separate—if you want to go up one side and down the other, you’ll need different tickets. The endless queue for the toboggan ride put us off. Quick tip: Incredible swimming spot in Beijing—on the north shore of Houhai Lake, you can swim by crossing the barrier. We did it twice with about ten other people. Bring a swimsuit!
Shapotou Desert Amazing, but it gets *very* hot in the afternoon. We had a tent (not an air-conditioned bungalow), which was unbearable during the day. We hung out in the restaurant. The paid activities are fun, except the camels—they look sad. The real highlight is the evening and sunset. The only downside: you can’t explore the desert alone or far—they don’t rent 4x4s, for example. We stayed at "The Desert Camping Hotel of the Proprietress of Shapotou." They were lovely.
Zhongwei Gaomiao Temple and its underground: Fun and short—you’ll see quirky Buddhist hell paintings.
Xi’an Terracotta Army: We took a Didi because for four people, a car was almost the same price as four shuttle tickets. It was packed—chaotic to see properly. We visited the halls in order: 3, 2, then 1—a good choice. Hua Shan Mountains: Left before sunrise to arrive when the ticket office opened (7 AM, I think). We were shocked to see so many people already coming down. 45 minutes by bus to the west cable car, then 15 minutes up. We did the west, south, east, central, then north peaks (in that order) before taking the other cable car down (you can buy the ticket at the top). A beautiful day. In the city, check out...
Chengdu Panda Research Center: Like Hua Shan, plan to arrive when the ticket office opens. Already *tons* of people, and it moves fast to see the big pandas before their nap. Have them drop you at the west entrance (not south), or you’ll have to walk uphill. Leshan Giant Buddha: Interesting. The trip is a bit long (metro, then train, then city bus, then shuttle on-site). We didn’t take the boat option but walked. In the end, you only spend a few minutes at the Buddha’s feet, but it’s a nice day out. Hotel tip: Panda Enjoy Home Hotel Apartments (Chengdu East Railway Station Dongda Road Branch). The view is insane, and the neighborhood is super convenient and nice. 646 CNY for 2 nights. Swimming: The municipal pool is an interesting experience, but don’t expect to swim—no one does. Everyone just splashes around where they can stand. The hours are a bit odd, with a break in the late afternoon.
Kunming The bike path along Dian Lake is pretty and often well-protected from cars. But like everywhere in China, it’s *packed*. Not much to say about visits—the flower market is a wholesale market, not very interesting. The ethnic minorities museum closed right in front of us. All the big malls are good for shopping.
Dali We thought we could bike around the lake in two days. Wrong on two counts: First, the lake’s edge is blocked to traffic and reserved for bikes (or tourist mini-buses). So you’re stuck on the main road, which never gives you a view of the lake, with all the trucks and cars. Doing 120 km like that wouldn’t make sense, in our opinion. The rice fields around are nice but not as impressive as elsewhere, so Dali isn’t worth it for that. The old town, all restored, is pretty but *packed*—thousands of people, especially in the evening.
Hekou (Vietnam border) Comfortable train from Kunming. In the parking lot, a bus (not well-marked, but Didi is an option) takes you to the border in 15–20 minutes. Short wait at both border posts. Fun to see the two lampposts near the border line: the Chinese one is new, modern, with a surveillance camera (of course), while the Vietnamese one is old and a bit rusty.
VIETNAM General: - You’ll need the Grab app for taxis - Very disappointed with 12Go—it doesn’t show all buses, never connects you with the company, and refuses refunds. Try booking directly with companies like FUTA Bus instead. - Credit cards are often accepted (supermarkets and modern stores), otherwise, you’ll need cash
Lao Cai 2 km between the border and the train station. The sleeper bus to Hanoi with Sao Viet is well-organized—it works.
Hanoi Ho Chi Minh Mausoleum closes early (10:30 AM, I think). Women’s Museum: Very good, not too long Temple of Literature: Beautiful, fairly quick This is where you should buy souvenirs, clothes, and knockoffs—the prices are reasonable, and the sellers are nicer than elsewhere. We recommend Cho Dong Xuan.
Tu Long Bay We did 2 days, 1 night (so really 24 hours on the boat) with Parfum d’Automne (French-speaking agency), which put us on a Cycad Cruise boat. Cost: 300 € per person—expensive, but it was amazing, super luxurious, and the buffet meals were delicious. We don’t regret the splurge. The only downside: no swimming in the bay (but there’s a pool on the boat). To swim, you’d need a 3-day, 2-night trip to an area not protected by the maritime park.
Phong Nha If you didn’t do the northern mountains due to time or weather (like us), Phong Nha is a great stop for a motorbike ride. It’s beautiful, especially the mountains west of the city toward the caves. There are two (small) swimming spots at the Botanic Garden—a pleasant 45-minute walk without stops. Hotel tip: Sunbeam Village (very friendly, pool, breakfast by the river, motorbike rentals)
Da Nang Hotel tip: Meridians by Hsuite—you’ll have the beach almost to yourself. You’ll still need to walk 15–20 minutes to the hyper-touristy area if you want to rent surfboards (150–200k VND per hour). The beach is beautiful, and the water is 30°C—great for a break on a long trip, especially since all transport goes through Da Nang.
Hoi An 45 minutes from Da Nang, so it’s easy to visit in a day, especially since the city isn’t that big and it’s *very* hot. Cooking class: MS Hanh cooking class—great (the market tour is a bit useless). We don’t recommend the "basket boat" tour—it’s a bit sad on a big brown pond with elderly guides.
Ho Chi Minh City Ben Thanh Market is a nightmare: starting prices are exorbitant, and the vendors are aggressive. Don’t go. The War Remnants Museum can be really tough for kids.
Can Tho Avoid this city. We made the mistake of going to see the floating market—don’t.
Chau Doc No Grab in the city, but regular taxis. One day is enough if you go early to the forest and the mountain in the late afternoon. 250k VND per person for the forest and its canals (45 minutes by motorbike) The sunset at Victoria Nui Sam can be magnificent if the clouds cooperate. Cheap and good restaurant: Quan Nem Nuong Sau Hiep Hotel tip: Homestay Khoa (2,250,000 VND for 3 nights)—adorable hostess, full of tips, clean rooms.
The speedboat to Cambodia is more comfortable than a bus. Book with Hangchau a few days in advance—payment in cash on the day (1,640,000 đ).
CAMBODIA General: - Issues with the "Bakong Tourists" app—we had to go to a big bank to load money onto it. We barely used it afterward.
Phnom Penh For us, a day and a half is enough if you want to spend more time elsewhere. Markets close early (around 6 PM) and are less interesting than in Hanoi, for example. The Royal Palace has a break from 11 AM to 2 PM, but there aren’t many people in the afternoon.
Siem Reap Trip with Capitol company—the bus is basic but cheap. Departs at 10:15 AM, 7-hour ride. Angkor entrance fee: 62 USD per person for a 3-day pass. Tickets are picked up at Angkor Enterprise. Renting two 125cc motorbikes: 10 USD each, plus 7 USD for gas. By bike, it took me 25 minutes to reach Angkor Wat’s pools. A basic city bike rental was 1 USD per hour. Short circuit by motorbike (in reverse): 7 hours with stops everywhere. Grand tour by tuk-tuk: Only 5 temples, 4.5 hours. If you want to see lots of monkeys, they’re grouped west of Bayon. For the temples, we asked Gemini (AI) at each stop to point out details that might interest kids (who can get bored with the repetition). It gave fun facts and things to look for—great for the little ones. Hotel tip: The Five Senses, run by a Frenchman, Bruno, who knows Cambodia inside out and organizes tours. Restaurant tip: Wild (only spring rolls, but *so* many varieties—delicious and cheap) Watch out: 1 hour to the airport, 50 km from the city. Show tip: The Phare Circus
CHINA General You’ll need to download and set up a few apps: - Alipay and WeChat for payments (I didn’t withdraw a single bill the entire trip) - Didi for taxis - Amap = Chinese Maps (works great, especially for subways) - A translation app (we used Papago, but it sometimes gave weird results) - Google Lens for translating menus or signs—super handy. - HelloRide for bikes - Gemini and ChatGPT for everything: understanding daily life, enhancing visits, checking the weather, finding things. - HomeExchange if you want to lower travel costs (few listings in Asia except in big cities, often expats) - Trip.com is very useful, even essential, for trains, domestic flights, and hotels. Like Booking.com, the more you book with them, the more perks you get. So I’d even suggest checking flight tickets on this site, even if it’s a bit pricier. However, buying train tickets is complicated because (1) they only open 15 days in advance, and (2) they sell out fast. Trip.com just promises to buy them as soon as they’re available but doesn’t always succeed. It’s stressful and might force you to change your plans, especially if you’re aiming for a sleeper car and there are no seats left. Watch out for station names—many cities have multiple stations, including a high-speed rail one outside the city. For internet, we got the Asia plan from Holafly. It worked but seemed much slower than Chinese internet. I regretted not buying a Chinese SIM card because without internet in China, everything is VERY complicated (money, transport, etc.).
For the firewall, we used ExpressVPN, but it wasn’t always reliable. A bit disappointing. Ask ChatGPT for tips with screenshots to improve the settings.
Since we only had one SIM card with internet, we couldn’t rent shared bikes. If I were to do it again, I’d get a SIM for each person, even the kids, because distances in cities are huge. We walked *a lot*. Same goes for buses—it’s tricky with just one internet connection. Better to have a phone per person with internet. Book your visits as far in advance as possible—they often sell out. Watch out for power banks: if they don’t explicitly say "3C," they’ll confiscate it. Even if there’s a little airplane logo.
Shanghai In the evening, the streets leading to the Bund from the metro were so crowded that police were out in force blocking roads. Arrive early. We went around the north side.
Suzhou Be careful—there are two stations (common in China), and the high-speed rail one is 45–50 minutes from the old town. The Humble Administrator’s Garden was *packed*—we don’t recommend it. It turned into a marathon day from Shanghai (almost 4 hours from our hotel to the garden).
Beijing Forbidden City: Don’t go—I know it’s a shame, but it’s too crowded. I couldn’t buy tickets on the official site because of the kids’ passports. We ended up with a guided tour, the only way to get in (tickets sell out fast). The visit was disappointing—bad guide *and* massive crowds. You’ll queue a lot to enter and see certain areas. You’ll be checked often, so pack your bags carefully. Great Wall at Mutianyu: Crowded. Two hours by bus, and even though we arrived early, people were already leaving! I really think the best option is to leave your big bags in Beijing and stay overnight near the Wall. That way, you’ll have it to yourself a bit more. For transport: get off at Tiananmen Square metro and look for buses with official guides in bright yellow-green vests. No need to buy tickets online—they made me cancel mine to rebook on the spot. Buses leave when full. Note: the cable car and chairlift are separate—if you want to go up one side and down the other, you’ll need different tickets. The endless queue for the toboggan ride put us off. Quick tip: Incredible swimming spot in Beijing—on the north shore of Houhai Lake, you can swim by crossing the barrier. We did it twice with about ten other people. Bring a swimsuit!
Shapotou Desert Amazing, but it gets *very* hot in the afternoon. We had a tent (not an air-conditioned bungalow), which was unbearable during the day. We hung out in the restaurant. The paid activities are fun, except the camels—they look sad. The real highlight is the evening and sunset. The only downside: you can’t explore the desert alone or far—they don’t rent 4x4s, for example. We stayed at "The Desert Camping Hotel of the Proprietress of Shapotou." They were lovely.
Zhongwei Gaomiao Temple and its underground: Fun and short—you’ll see quirky Buddhist hell paintings.
Xi’an Terracotta Army: We took a Didi because for four people, a car was almost the same price as four shuttle tickets. It was packed—chaotic to see properly. We visited the halls in order: 3, 2, then 1—a good choice. Hua Shan Mountains: Left before sunrise to arrive when the ticket office opened (7 AM, I think). We were shocked to see so many people already coming down. 45 minutes by bus to the west cable car, then 15 minutes up. We did the west, south, east, central, then north peaks (in that order) before taking the other cable car down (you can buy the ticket at the top). A beautiful day. In the city, check out...
Chengdu Panda Research Center: Like Hua Shan, plan to arrive when the ticket office opens. Already *tons* of people, and it moves fast to see the big pandas before their nap. Have them drop you at the west entrance (not south), or you’ll have to walk uphill. Leshan Giant Buddha: Interesting. The trip is a bit long (metro, then train, then city bus, then shuttle on-site). We didn’t take the boat option but walked. In the end, you only spend a few minutes at the Buddha’s feet, but it’s a nice day out. Hotel tip: Panda Enjoy Home Hotel Apartments (Chengdu East Railway Station Dongda Road Branch). The view is insane, and the neighborhood is super convenient and nice. 646 CNY for 2 nights. Swimming: The municipal pool is an interesting experience, but don’t expect to swim—no one does. Everyone just splashes around where they can stand. The hours are a bit odd, with a break in the late afternoon.
Kunming The bike path along Dian Lake is pretty and often well-protected from cars. But like everywhere in China, it’s *packed*. Not much to say about visits—the flower market is a wholesale market, not very interesting. The ethnic minorities museum closed right in front of us. All the big malls are good for shopping.
Dali We thought we could bike around the lake in two days. Wrong on two counts: First, the lake’s edge is blocked to traffic and reserved for bikes (or tourist mini-buses). So you’re stuck on the main road, which never gives you a view of the lake, with all the trucks and cars. Doing 120 km like that wouldn’t make sense, in our opinion. The rice fields around are nice but not as impressive as elsewhere, so Dali isn’t worth it for that. The old town, all restored, is pretty but *packed*—thousands of people, especially in the evening.
Hekou (Vietnam border) Comfortable train from Kunming. In the parking lot, a bus (not well-marked, but Didi is an option) takes you to the border in 15–20 minutes. Short wait at both border posts. Fun to see the two lampposts near the border line: the Chinese one is new, modern, with a surveillance camera (of course), while the Vietnamese one is old and a bit rusty.
VIETNAM General: - You’ll need the Grab app for taxis - Very disappointed with 12Go—it doesn’t show all buses, never connects you with the company, and refuses refunds. Try booking directly with companies like FUTA Bus instead. - Credit cards are often accepted (supermarkets and modern stores), otherwise, you’ll need cash
Lao Cai 2 km between the border and the train station. The sleeper bus to Hanoi with Sao Viet is well-organized—it works.
Hanoi Ho Chi Minh Mausoleum closes early (10:30 AM, I think). Women’s Museum: Very good, not too long Temple of Literature: Beautiful, fairly quick This is where you should buy souvenirs, clothes, and knockoffs—the prices are reasonable, and the sellers are nicer than elsewhere. We recommend Cho Dong Xuan.
Tu Long Bay We did 2 days, 1 night (so really 24 hours on the boat) with Parfum d’Automne (French-speaking agency), which put us on a Cycad Cruise boat. Cost: 300 € per person—expensive, but it was amazing, super luxurious, and the buffet meals were delicious. We don’t regret the splurge. The only downside: no swimming in the bay (but there’s a pool on the boat). To swim, you’d need a 3-day, 2-night trip to an area not protected by the maritime park.
Phong Nha If you didn’t do the northern mountains due to time or weather (like us), Phong Nha is a great stop for a motorbike ride. It’s beautiful, especially the mountains west of the city toward the caves. There are two (small) swimming spots at the Botanic Garden—a pleasant 45-minute walk without stops. Hotel tip: Sunbeam Village (very friendly, pool, breakfast by the river, motorbike rentals)
Da Nang Hotel tip: Meridians by Hsuite—you’ll have the beach almost to yourself. You’ll still need to walk 15–20 minutes to the hyper-touristy area if you want to rent surfboards (150–200k VND per hour). The beach is beautiful, and the water is 30°C—great for a break on a long trip, especially since all transport goes through Da Nang.
Hoi An 45 minutes from Da Nang, so it’s easy to visit in a day, especially since the city isn’t that big and it’s *very* hot. Cooking class: MS Hanh cooking class—great (the market tour is a bit useless). We don’t recommend the "basket boat" tour—it’s a bit sad on a big brown pond with elderly guides.
Ho Chi Minh City Ben Thanh Market is a nightmare: starting prices are exorbitant, and the vendors are aggressive. Don’t go. The War Remnants Museum can be really tough for kids.
Can Tho Avoid this city. We made the mistake of going to see the floating market—don’t.
Chau Doc No Grab in the city, but regular taxis. One day is enough if you go early to the forest and the mountain in the late afternoon. 250k VND per person for the forest and its canals (45 minutes by motorbike) The sunset at Victoria Nui Sam can be magnificent if the clouds cooperate. Cheap and good restaurant: Quan Nem Nuong Sau Hiep Hotel tip: Homestay Khoa (2,250,000 VND for 3 nights)—adorable hostess, full of tips, clean rooms.
The speedboat to Cambodia is more comfortable than a bus. Book with Hangchau a few days in advance—payment in cash on the day (1,640,000 đ).
CAMBODIA General: - Issues with the "Bakong Tourists" app—we had to go to a big bank to load money onto it. We barely used it afterward.
Phnom Penh For us, a day and a half is enough if you want to spend more time elsewhere. Markets close early (around 6 PM) and are less interesting than in Hanoi, for example. The Royal Palace has a break from 11 AM to 2 PM, but there aren’t many people in the afternoon.
Siem Reap Trip with Capitol company—the bus is basic but cheap. Departs at 10:15 AM, 7-hour ride. Angkor entrance fee: 62 USD per person for a 3-day pass. Tickets are picked up at Angkor Enterprise. Renting two 125cc motorbikes: 10 USD each, plus 7 USD for gas. By bike, it took me 25 minutes to reach Angkor Wat’s pools. A basic city bike rental was 1 USD per hour. Short circuit by motorbike (in reverse): 7 hours with stops everywhere. Grand tour by tuk-tuk: Only 5 temples, 4.5 hours. If you want to see lots of monkeys, they’re grouped west of Bayon. For the temples, we asked Gemini (AI) at each stop to point out details that might interest kids (who can get bored with the repetition). It gave fun facts and things to look for—great for the little ones. Hotel tip: The Five Senses, run by a Frenchman, Bruno, who knows Cambodia inside out and organizes tours. Restaurant tip: Wild (only spring rolls, but *so* many varieties—delicious and cheap) Watch out: 1 hour to the airport, 50 km from the city. Show tip: The Phare Circus
Hi there,
What do you think of this itinerary for a first 15-day trip to China?
Day 1 to 4: Beijing
Day 5 to 6: Datong - Yungang
Day 6 to 7: Pingyao
Day 8 to 10: Xi'an
Day 11 to 15: Shanghai
Itinerary:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/HXdGotaSPgQThoi19?g_st=iw
Day 1 to 4: Beijing
Day 5 to 6: Datong - Yungang
Day 6 to 7: Pingyao
Day 8 to 10: Xi'an
Day 11 to 15: Shanghai
Itinerary:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/HXdGotaSPgQThoi19?g_st=iw
hi
I booked my trip from May 5 to 26, 2027. I’m starting to plan my itinerary and look for hotels (I know it’s early!). While I’ve found some in Seoul and Busan, I’m noticing that elsewhere—like Yeosu—most hotels aren’t available (on Booking.com, for example, almost all are unavailable). AI tells me not to worry because hotels in South Korea only open bookings 6 months in advance, so it’s normal to see most of them unavailable on booking sites.
Could you confirm this for me and, of course, reassure me (!)? Thanks so much. philippe
I booked my trip from May 5 to 26, 2027. I’m starting to plan my itinerary and look for hotels (I know it’s early!). While I’ve found some in Seoul and Busan, I’m noticing that elsewhere—like Yeosu—most hotels aren’t available (on Booking.com, for example, almost all are unavailable). AI tells me not to worry because hotels in South Korea only open bookings 6 months in advance, so it’s normal to see most of them unavailable on booking sites.
Could you confirm this for me and, of course, reassure me (!)? Thanks so much. philippe
We’re back from a one-month trip to China and wanted to share our itinerary. Hopefully, this can give future travelers some ideas for exploring this beautiful country.
Beijing → Temple of Heaven / Forbidden City Jinshanling → Great Wall Zhangjiajie → Tianmen Mountain and Heaven’s Gate Wulingyuan → Avatar Mountains / sandstone pillars Fenghuang → riverside houses Ping’an → terraced rice fields Tiantouzhai → village / rice terraces Yangshuo → Li River / karst mountains Shanghai → skyline with the Oriental Pearl Tower
Our travel journal is available on our travel journal, written day by day. You’ll find lots of photos and some travel tips there.
Beijing → Temple of Heaven / Forbidden City Jinshanling → Great Wall Zhangjiajie → Tianmen Mountain and Heaven’s Gate Wulingyuan → Avatar Mountains / sandstone pillars Fenghuang → riverside houses Ping’an → terraced rice fields Tiantouzhai → village / rice terraces Yangshuo → Li River / karst mountains Shanghai → skyline with the Oriental Pearl Tower
Our travel journal is available on our travel journal, written day by day. You’ll find lots of photos and some travel tips there.
Hi, I’m planning a Paris–Hong Kong round trip with a return from Chongqing to Paris, spanning 28 days in November 2026.
The flight is with Air China, with a few hours’ layover in Beijing each time (I plan to stay inside the airport).
I’ve reread the conditions several times, but since I’m never entirely sure, I’d love your input.
Are we all clear that visa exemptions apply?
For arrival in Hong Kong, crossing the Hong Kong–China land border (via Shenzhen), and the return flight from Chongqing?
Thanks for your insights.
The flight is with Air China, with a few hours’ layover in Beijing each time (I plan to stay inside the airport).
I’ve reread the conditions several times, but since I’m never entirely sure, I’d love your input.
Are we all clear that visa exemptions apply?
For arrival in Hong Kong, crossing the Hong Kong–China land border (via Shenzhen), and the return flight from Chongqing?
Thanks for your insights.
Hi there,
I’m starting to look at neighborhoods in Seoul, and I’m leaning toward staying in a hotel in Insa-Dong—I’ve spotted one really close to Unhyeongung. Is this a good area—nice and convenient for exploring the city?
Otherwise, I’ve also found another hotel in Yongsan-Gu, right near the station of the same name. Is that station useful for getting around Seoul?
Since I’ll be in South Korea for nearly two months, I plan to spend at least a week in Seoul to recover from jet lag (it takes me a while to adjust...). So, I’d love a neighborhood that’s pleasant and a hotel not too far from a subway station.
Thanks in advance!
I’m starting to look at neighborhoods in Seoul, and I’m leaning toward staying in a hotel in Insa-Dong—I’ve spotted one really close to Unhyeongung. Is this a good area—nice and convenient for exploring the city?
Otherwise, I’ve also found another hotel in Yongsan-Gu, right near the station of the same name. Is that station useful for getting around Seoul?
Since I’ll be in South Korea for nearly two months, I plan to spend at least a week in Seoul to recover from jet lag (it takes me a while to adjust...). So, I’d love a neighborhood that’s pleasant and a hotel not too far from a subway station.
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’d like to do this cycling route over 2 or 3 days. I’m struggling to figure out and find a (good) bike rental that lets me start in Onomichi and drop off in Imabari. Can anyone help with great tips for rentals and accommodations along the route? How do I get back to Onomichi afterward?
Hey everyone,
Next year, we’re celebrating 20 years of marriage (and travel 🙂), and we’re looking for something new, pretty legendary, and something the teens will enjoy too.
The family council has settled on Japan for now. And it’d have to be a summer trip—no choice there.
The catch: I keep reading that August isn’t the right season for southern Japan. It’s hot, humid, and there’s a risk of typhoons… Okay, but what does that *actually* mean in practice? Are there any travelers who’ve been there during this time? Is it *that* unbearable? We’re pretty familiar with Southeast Asia—last year, we dealt with scorching heat in Vietnam and insane humidity, plus a typhoon we experienced from a distance, and visiting Angkor in the blazing sun. Is it worse than that?
Thanks for your feedback 😉
Next year, we’re celebrating 20 years of marriage (and travel 🙂), and we’re looking for something new, pretty legendary, and something the teens will enjoy too.
The family council has settled on Japan for now. And it’d have to be a summer trip—no choice there.
The catch: I keep reading that August isn’t the right season for southern Japan. It’s hot, humid, and there’s a risk of typhoons… Okay, but what does that *actually* mean in practice? Are there any travelers who’ve been there during this time? Is it *that* unbearable? We’re pretty familiar with Southeast Asia—last year, we dealt with scorching heat in Vietnam and insane humidity, plus a typhoon we experienced from a distance, and visiting Angkor in the blazing sun. Is it worse than that?
Thanks for your feedback 😉
hi there
I’m back with my detailed itinerary for 20 days in South Korea—it’s my first trip to the country. Our idea is to experience a more rural and cultural Korea. Here’s the rough plan: Seoul for 4 nights at the start and 1 night at the end, Gurye for 4 nights, Suncheon for 4 nights, Namhae for 4 nights, and Gyeongju for 2 nights. The goal is to pick a base and explore the surrounding areas. What do you think of this itinerary? Anything you’d change? thanks
philippe
I’m back with my detailed itinerary for 20 days in South Korea—it’s my first trip to the country. Our idea is to experience a more rural and cultural Korea. Here’s the rough plan: Seoul for 4 nights at the start and 1 night at the end, Gurye for 4 nights, Suncheon for 4 nights, Namhae for 4 nights, and Gyeongju for 2 nights. The goal is to pick a base and explore the surrounding areas. What do you think of this itinerary? Anything you’d change? thanks
philippe
hi everyone, we're heading out for a 12-day trek in the Japanese Alps. We're bringing freeze-dried meals like we always do. We just found out that importing meat is banned, even freeze-dried. Is that true? We already bought them. They're commercially made freeze-dried meals. Online, it's not specified that they have to be "commercially made" because you can make your own freeze-dried food. And since we've heard they're really strict in Japan, can anyone confirm this for us? thanks
Hi there,
I haven’t found what I’m looking for despite my searches!
For a 15-day trip next spring, I’d like to buy a card (preferably an eSIM, but a physical SIM is fine too) that also lets me make calls in the country (to contact a hotel, a tourist spot, etc.).
You can easily find options just for data, but I haven’t come across any that include calls, texts, or even MMS. Could you recommend something?
Thanks in advance
I haven’t found what I’m looking for despite my searches!
For a 15-day trip next spring, I’d like to buy a card (preferably an eSIM, but a physical SIM is fine too) that also lets me make calls in the country (to contact a hotel, a tourist spot, etc.).
You can easily find options just for data, but I haven’t come across any that include calls, texts, or even MMS. Could you recommend something?
Thanks in advance
hi there
I’m planning a trip in September—here’s my rough itinerary. What do you think? Is it easy to rent a car to get around between my stops? Thanks so much!
Philippe StopNightsFull daysSeoul44Gurye (Jirisan)43Suncheon43Namhae43Gyeongju21Seoul1—
Philippe StopNightsFull daysSeoul44Gurye (Jirisan)43Suncheon43Namhae43Gyeongju21Seoul1—
Hi,
July 2026: I’m writing to you from Dali.
First, I got scammed on Booking—AI-retouched photos. No tourists at this hotel (Yishanju Designer Hotel), and the reality was horrible: dirty, with a disgusting breakfast. It’s better to use Trip.com here.
Next, the old town was an infernal cacophony, packed with tourists who shoved past without a care. Some vendors harassed you to buy things. All the stalls sold the same cheap plastic junk or other uninteresting stuff. The beautiful scenery was ruined by vendors lining 100% of the alleys. Impossible to walk, crushing heat, nothing good to eat except fresh fruit. Horrible experience.
Day 2: We went to Cangshan Mountain by cable car—the ride was short and nothing spectacular. We were at 2,600 m.
My plan was to see Erhai Lake. Unfortunately, I followed the advice of an AI chatbot: take the boat at Langkan Dock. The Didi dropped us off in the nearest area, which was full of charming little alleys but packed with Chinese tourists. The three-wheeled yellow cabs zoomed through the narrow streets, forcing you to hug the walls, on top of the scooters and other pedestrians to deal with. Crossing the neighborhood was hellish and suffocating. Once out, we hit the "corniche," which was also packed with Chinese tourists. The lake’s edge was all pebbles, and everyone was standing around taking photos. I was with my 5-year-old son. I would’ve liked to sit down and let him play with stones by the water, but it was clear we didn’t belong. They were even shoving each other for a shot! There were no boats in sight. In short, we’d had enough, and there was nothing interesting there either.
On the way back, we had to cross that maze again under the scorching sun. My son was braver than me—I even had a little dizzy spell from all the chaos. Add to that Dali’s altitude (2,200 m), so altitude insomnia, fatigue, and vulnerability during the day...
The restaurants weren’t inviting—the staff served sticky rice in a little bucket. The dishes were wrapped, and you had to figure it out yourself. After that, they ignored you completely, even if you were the only tourist.
On the 3rd day, it was time to leave for Shaxi. I hope to see beautiful villages. But honestly, I’m exhausted by this atmosphere where everything is complicated, communication is never smooth, noise is everywhere, and the behavior of some Chinese people is abusive...
Silver lining: not a drop of rain in 4 days and blue skies.
I couldn’t visit the villages in southern Yunnan because of rain and storms there... But I was expecting to see a few more tourists.
I couldn’t visit the villages in southern Yunnan because of rain and storms there... But I was expecting to see a few more tourists.
Hi,
Great article that really captures what makes South Korea so appealing!
South Korea: Between Hallyu and the search for authenticity, the French are falling for the destination
Great article that really captures what makes South Korea so appealing!
South Korea: Between Hallyu and the search for authenticity, the French are falling for the destination
Hello,
We’re planning a 17-day trip to South Korea in October 2026 with my husband and our daughters, who’ll be 9 years old.
I’d love to get your thoughts on our draft itinerary.
First, some key details:
1/ Jeju Island is a must for us. I’ve personally dreamed of going there for years after reading a novel about it. 2/ Our girls are used to road-trip style travel since they were born, so this kind of trip won’t be an issue for them. 3/ We plan to travel by train, except on Jeju where we’ll rent a car (we already have an international driver’s permit).
Itinerary:
Seoul: 1 arrival day at 10 AM + 4 full days Gyeongju: 2 days Busan: 3 days Jeju: 4 days Seoul: 2 days
Thanks for your feedback! Have a great day,
Sabrina
We’re planning a 17-day trip to South Korea in October 2026 with my husband and our daughters, who’ll be 9 years old.
I’d love to get your thoughts on our draft itinerary.
First, some key details:
1/ Jeju Island is a must for us. I’ve personally dreamed of going there for years after reading a novel about it. 2/ Our girls are used to road-trip style travel since they were born, so this kind of trip won’t be an issue for them. 3/ We plan to travel by train, except on Jeju where we’ll rent a car (we already have an international driver’s permit).
Itinerary:
Seoul: 1 arrival day at 10 AM + 4 full days Gyeongju: 2 days Busan: 3 days Jeju: 4 days Seoul: 2 days
Thanks for your feedback! Have a great day,
Sabrina
Hi there,
My girlfriend (23) and I (24) are heading to Japan for the first time from October 20th to November 6th. Here’s our itinerary:
6 nights in Tokyo 1 night in Hakone (ryokan already booked) 4 nights in Kyoto (hotel already booked) 2 nights in Osaka 4 nights back in Tokyo I’d like to book hotels for Tokyo (both stays) and Osaka, but I’ve gotten so many different recommendations.
I’ve read that Shinjuku is the place to be for its huge hub, accessibility, and things to do, but I’ve also heard about Shibuya, Asakusa, and Ueno. I’ve looked at hotels, and first off, I’m surprised by the prices compared to what I’ve seen on forums (I guess inflation’s hit here too… and maybe I’m late to the booking game?). I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed with all the options.
For our first stay in Tokyo, I’d prefer a hotel (not a residence or Airbnb) since we’ll be arriving at night, and it’s our first time in Japan. It’d be great to have a place with a reception, staff who speak at least a little English, and can give us some guidance. For the second stay, we could consider other options if it’s better. Budget-wise, we can go up to 150–180 € per night, but if we can save some money to spend elsewhere, that’d be amazing!
I’m open to all recommendations, hotel suggestions, or any other tips for Tokyo (first stay), Osaka, and Tokyo (second stay).
Thanks so much!
6 nights in Tokyo 1 night in Hakone (ryokan already booked) 4 nights in Kyoto (hotel already booked) 2 nights in Osaka 4 nights back in Tokyo I’d like to book hotels for Tokyo (both stays) and Osaka, but I’ve gotten so many different recommendations.
I’ve read that Shinjuku is the place to be for its huge hub, accessibility, and things to do, but I’ve also heard about Shibuya, Asakusa, and Ueno. I’ve looked at hotels, and first off, I’m surprised by the prices compared to what I’ve seen on forums (I guess inflation’s hit here too… and maybe I’m late to the booking game?). I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed with all the options.
For our first stay in Tokyo, I’d prefer a hotel (not a residence or Airbnb) since we’ll be arriving at night, and it’s our first time in Japan. It’d be great to have a place with a reception, staff who speak at least a little English, and can give us some guidance. For the second stay, we could consider other options if it’s better. Budget-wise, we can go up to 150–180 € per night, but if we can save some money to spend elsewhere, that’d be amazing!
I’m open to all recommendations, hotel suggestions, or any other tips for Tokyo (first stay), Osaka, and Tokyo (second stay).
Thanks so much!
Hi there.
I’m traveling solo to China in October '26, heading to these spots:
Guilin - Yangshuo - Chengdu – Leshan – Chongqing – Zhangjiajie - Furong – Shanghai
Any guides you’d recommend?
Tons of "agencies" (gowithguide, Hellechinaguide, etc.) offer guides. Can I reach out to them? I also speak English.
Any other tips for me?
Thanks! !
Guilin - Yangshuo - Chengdu – Leshan – Chongqing – Zhangjiajie - Furong – Shanghai
Any guides you’d recommend?
Tons of "agencies" (gowithguide, Hellechinaguide, etc.) offer guides. Can I reach out to them? I also speak English.
Any other tips for me?
Thanks! !
Hi there,
I’m getting ready for a classic tourist trip to China in May 2026.
The "Terres Lointaines" itinerary looks good to me, and the price is interesting.
Has anyone traveled with them before? Any feedback?
Is there a better option?
Thanks so much for sharing your experiences on this!
Michel
hi, does anyone have suggestions or contacts for a private local driver without going through a big travel agency for a multi-day trip in Yunnan?
thanks for any info
thanks for any info
Hi there,
I just booked my hotel in Seoul—it’ll be near Unhyeongung, on Samil-Daero 30-Gil—and I’m wondering if there’s public transport from the airport to this address (bus or subway)? If not, what’s the taxi fare? I read it’s around 50 or 60 €.
I just booked my hotel in Seoul—it’ll be near Unhyeongung, on Samil-Daero 30-Gil—and I’m wondering if there’s public transport from the airport to this address (bus or subway)? If not, what’s the taxi fare? I read it’s around 50 or 60 €.
I’m traveling to Japan with a young adult with autism (ASD) from July 28 to August 8, following a pretty classic route: Osaka, Hiroshima, Kyoto, and Tokyo. I’m looking for a schedule of the most spectacular fireworks displays during that time. So far, the dates for the major *hanabi* events aren’t available online yet. If anyone has them, I’d really appreciate it if you could share!
Hi there,
We’ll be doing a self-drive trip using public transport in May 2026.
On Day 6, we’ll arrive in Hakone by train from Tokyo in late morning. We’ll spend the night in Hakone before heading to Kyoto.
The main goal of this stop is clearly the view (no hiking) of Mount Fuji, not so much exploring Hakone, where the sights seem limited. I’ve read on the forum that the view is great from Gotemba, but it also takes a good hour by bus to get there. And, apart from that view, there’s nothing else to see in Gotemba!
So, I’m not sure what to choose. Any thoughts? Or alternatives to suggest? Maybe some spots in Hakone or Gotemba for a great view?
Thanks in advance.
We’ll be doing a self-drive trip using public transport in May 2026.
On Day 6, we’ll arrive in Hakone by train from Tokyo in late morning. We’ll spend the night in Hakone before heading to Kyoto.
The main goal of this stop is clearly the view (no hiking) of Mount Fuji, not so much exploring Hakone, where the sights seem limited. I’ve read on the forum that the view is great from Gotemba, but it also takes a good hour by bus to get there. And, apart from that view, there’s nothing else to see in Gotemba!
So, I’m not sure what to choose. Any thoughts? Or alternatives to suggest? Maybe some spots in Hakone or Gotemba for a great view?
Thanks in advance.






