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Voyage en Turquie depuis Genève par voie terrestre ou avion?
by Lolotte611
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Hello à tous,
Je viens de m'inscrire dans votre site pour avoir des infos sur la Turquie.
Plus je lis vos messages et plus ça me donne envie d'y aller!😛
Mais je commence à me demander si je pars par voie de terre depuis Genève(Suisse) ou en avion afin de plus profiter de la Turquie une fois là-bas!
Qqn l'a-t-il fait?Et si oui combien temps cela prend?
P.S.:je voyage avec bubget mini, sac à dos!
P.S.:je voyage avec bubget mini, sac à dos!
J'ai fai deux fois le trajet par la route depuis la france, c'est long.......Tu as combien de temps?? Par la route c'est super si tu veux en profiter pour visiter les balkans. Mais sinon prend l'avion, ca fera plusieurs jours de gagné!En plus ca coute le meme prix je pense, en prenant le bus jusqu'a Belgrade puis les trains jusqu'en turquie (en passant par la Macédoine et la Grece)ca nous avez couté 200 euro l'allé retour par personne.
Tu y vas quand????Moi je vais à Istanbul en autostop en aout/septembre, je cherche un(e) compagnon(e) de voyage donc si ca te dit!!!
..un beau jour sur un rafio craquant de la coque au pont, pour partir je travaillerais dans la soute à charbon, prenant la route qui mène à mes reves d'enfant sur des iles lointaines ou il n'est important que de vivre....
album photo: www.skatala.monespace.net
album photo: www.skatala.monespace.net
Hello,
Merci pour ta réponse!
Je pense partir ce mois de mai et je ne sais encore pas si je pars pour 4 ou 8 semaines! Dis-moi, tu as l'air de connaître bien ce pays! Qu'est-ce-que tu me conseilles de voir avant tout?
P.S: Parles catala?
Bondia, tu també parles català???Bé si és el cas t'escric malgrat tot en Francès que tothom pogues entendre...
Je ne connais pas la turquie si bien que ça, je connais surtout Istanbul. Pour le reste de la Turquie je suis seulement allé à Cankiri dans un chantier international, c'est au dessus d'Ankara, je te conseil pas cette endroit car ya rien d'intérresant à voir, à part les gens bien sur qui sont super acceuillant!!Surtout parcequ'on était casiment les seul étrangés à être venu dans cette ville et que c'était un évenement (c passé à la télé et dans les journaux lol!!). Pour Istanbul si tu part 8 semaines n'hésite pas à y rester au moin 1 semaine, ya vraiment trop de truc à voir, déja l'incontournable quartier de Sultanamet, bon c'est hyper touristique mais c'est pas pour rien car c'est là qui à sainte Sophie, la mosqué bleu, le grand bazar et le palai du sultan (c cher parcontre les entrés!!faut rentré par la sortie!). Bien sur la traversé du bosphore en Bateau bus (prend les bateau bus qu'utilisent les Stanbouliote ca coute 1lira au lieu des bateaux à touriste ou tu vas payer ca 10 fois plus cher)De l'autre côté j'ai bien aimé le quatier de Kadikoy, notament vers le marché au poisson ( ya aussi un vieu tram qui fait le tour du quartier). Ce qui est sympa aussi c'est de remonté le bosphore en bateau jusqu'au village de Beykoz et de la rentré à Istanbul en minibus. Bon aprés ya le Quartier de Beyoglu et la rue Istikal si t'aime sortir et faire la fête. Du côté des murailles de la ville à l'ouest c'est sympa aussi et ya l'église saint sauveur in cora avec des manifiques fresque(incruste toi dans un groupe de touriste pour entré gratos ca marche bien!sinon c 10 euro!!). Mais toute facon pas besoin de suivre mes conseil, ce qui est bien à Istanbul c'est de se laissé perdre dans nimporte quel quatier, ya toujour des choses étonante à voir, cette ville est géniale, chaque quatier est diférent l'un de l'autre, ya plein de vieille mosqué, de ruine à découvrir. C'est une ville que j'ai adoré et je peux pas m'empécher d'y retourner, ce mélange d'europe et du moyen orient me facine!! Tout les contrastes qui a c'est déroutant, à Galata aucune femme porte le voile et dans l'avenue Istikal tu croirait à Bruxelle ou à Lyon alors qu'a 30 minute de bus tu te retrouve dans un quatier ou la majorité des femmes porte un tchador horible ou on voi à peine les yeux, pareil malheureusement entre les contraste énorme de richesse......Ce qui est étonant aussi c'est le nombreu de marchant dans la rue, à croire que tout les Stambouliote sont commercant, y en à partout, des vendeur embulant de balai ou de fil de cuivre, des présseur d'orange embulant, des vendeur de mouchoir, de briquet, de feu d'artifisse, de gateau, de photos pornographiques, de fleur, de paraplui, de cd pirate, de jouet, des cireur de chaussure....... tout ca un peu partout dans les rues, ca donne de l'animation! Bon voyage!!!!
J'ai quelques photos d'Istanbul sur mon site perso si tu veux www.skatala.monespace.net
Fins aviat!! Alex
Je ne connais pas la turquie si bien que ça, je connais surtout Istanbul. Pour le reste de la Turquie je suis seulement allé à Cankiri dans un chantier international, c'est au dessus d'Ankara, je te conseil pas cette endroit car ya rien d'intérresant à voir, à part les gens bien sur qui sont super acceuillant!!Surtout parcequ'on était casiment les seul étrangés à être venu dans cette ville et que c'était un évenement (c passé à la télé et dans les journaux lol!!). Pour Istanbul si tu part 8 semaines n'hésite pas à y rester au moin 1 semaine, ya vraiment trop de truc à voir, déja l'incontournable quartier de Sultanamet, bon c'est hyper touristique mais c'est pas pour rien car c'est là qui à sainte Sophie, la mosqué bleu, le grand bazar et le palai du sultan (c cher parcontre les entrés!!faut rentré par la sortie!). Bien sur la traversé du bosphore en Bateau bus (prend les bateau bus qu'utilisent les Stanbouliote ca coute 1lira au lieu des bateaux à touriste ou tu vas payer ca 10 fois plus cher)De l'autre côté j'ai bien aimé le quatier de Kadikoy, notament vers le marché au poisson ( ya aussi un vieu tram qui fait le tour du quartier). Ce qui est sympa aussi c'est de remonté le bosphore en bateau jusqu'au village de Beykoz et de la rentré à Istanbul en minibus. Bon aprés ya le Quartier de Beyoglu et la rue Istikal si t'aime sortir et faire la fête. Du côté des murailles de la ville à l'ouest c'est sympa aussi et ya l'église saint sauveur in cora avec des manifiques fresque(incruste toi dans un groupe de touriste pour entré gratos ca marche bien!sinon c 10 euro!!). Mais toute facon pas besoin de suivre mes conseil, ce qui est bien à Istanbul c'est de se laissé perdre dans nimporte quel quatier, ya toujour des choses étonante à voir, cette ville est géniale, chaque quatier est diférent l'un de l'autre, ya plein de vieille mosqué, de ruine à découvrir. C'est une ville que j'ai adoré et je peux pas m'empécher d'y retourner, ce mélange d'europe et du moyen orient me facine!! Tout les contrastes qui a c'est déroutant, à Galata aucune femme porte le voile et dans l'avenue Istikal tu croirait à Bruxelle ou à Lyon alors qu'a 30 minute de bus tu te retrouve dans un quatier ou la majorité des femmes porte un tchador horible ou on voi à peine les yeux, pareil malheureusement entre les contraste énorme de richesse......Ce qui est étonant aussi c'est le nombreu de marchant dans la rue, à croire que tout les Stambouliote sont commercant, y en à partout, des vendeur embulant de balai ou de fil de cuivre, des présseur d'orange embulant, des vendeur de mouchoir, de briquet, de feu d'artifisse, de gateau, de photos pornographiques, de fleur, de paraplui, de cd pirate, de jouet, des cireur de chaussure....... tout ca un peu partout dans les rues, ca donne de l'animation! Bon voyage!!!!
J'ai quelques photos d'Istanbul sur mon site perso si tu veux www.skatala.monespace.net
Fins aviat!! Alex
..un beau jour sur un rafio craquant de la coque au pont, pour partir je travaillerais dans la soute à charbon, prenant la route qui mène à mes reves d'enfant sur des iles lointaines ou il n'est important que de vivre....
album photo: www.skatala.monespace.net
album photo: www.skatala.monespace.net
salut
Je sais que le message du 20 avril ne m'est pas adressé cependant je l'ai lu et l'ai trouvé chouette. Je pense partir bientot pour la Turkie et y rester un bout de temps j'aimerais aller en syrie ou en Iran de la. On verra . J'aimerais te poser une question ... connais tu une petite gh sympa sur istambul???
merci
Carl
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à partir de juin, easyJet fera Bâle-Istanbul. Ce sera probablement moins cher que la voiture..
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The official Polish page: https://granica.gov.pl/index_wait.php?p=b&c=t&v=pl&k=w

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Is there an option to take a ferry in Italy, and is it worth it?
Thanks for all your tips!😊
Hi there, we’re a young couple and we’d love to go to the Blue Eye (Syri i Kalter) between today (26/06/26) and tomorrow (27/06/26).
Is anyone heading there and could give us a ride? We’re super friendly!
Thanks so much!
Maya and Sullivan
Maya and Sullivan
We're back. It's still a bit tough to get precise info, so here's a quick trip report!
A good starting point is Shkoder, a really pleasant city. You can easily explore Shkoder itself in a day or two.
Two accessible spots: Valbona and Theth. In both cases, local travel agencies in Shkoder or online offer round-trip or one-way access packages. Super handy, especially for Valbona.
Valbona and Theth are both very steep! There aren’t many easy hikes for less sporty folks (like me!).
Valbona: The highlight is the amazing 2.5-hour boat ride across Lake Koman. There are day trips from Shkoder, but you’ll only get a short tour of the lake. The best option is to do the full crossing—so spend a night in Valbona (or two if you want to hike in the valley) and return.
Theth is deeply nestled in the mountains. The village at the end of the valley, which is a dead end, has lots of hotels, but they’re pricey. Other hostels are scattered along the mountainside road, but it’s a steep climb down to the village or to the start of the two easy hikes (waterfalls and the Blue Eye). For us, it was a one-hour descent (and ascent!). It’s fine if you have a car; otherwise, keep an eye out for a taxi (cheap) or try hitchhiking—it works really well. Access from Shkoder to Theth is through an agency. The road is in great condition, and you can also rent a car for 2-3 days in Shkoder. If we did it again, that’s the option we’d choose.
We didn’t do the trek and returned to Shkoder each time. I can’t speak to its difficulty, but we were there in late May, and even experienced hikers had given up because of heavy rain and snow.
Hope this helps! It’s a stunning region you shouldn’t miss.
A good starting point is Shkoder, a really pleasant city. You can easily explore Shkoder itself in a day or two.
Two accessible spots: Valbona and Theth. In both cases, local travel agencies in Shkoder or online offer round-trip or one-way access packages. Super handy, especially for Valbona.
Valbona and Theth are both very steep! There aren’t many easy hikes for less sporty folks (like me!).
Valbona: The highlight is the amazing 2.5-hour boat ride across Lake Koman. There are day trips from Shkoder, but you’ll only get a short tour of the lake. The best option is to do the full crossing—so spend a night in Valbona (or two if you want to hike in the valley) and return.
Theth is deeply nestled in the mountains. The village at the end of the valley, which is a dead end, has lots of hotels, but they’re pricey. Other hostels are scattered along the mountainside road, but it’s a steep climb down to the village or to the start of the two easy hikes (waterfalls and the Blue Eye). For us, it was a one-hour descent (and ascent!). It’s fine if you have a car; otherwise, keep an eye out for a taxi (cheap) or try hitchhiking—it works really well. Access from Shkoder to Theth is through an agency. The road is in great condition, and you can also rent a car for 2-3 days in Shkoder. If we did it again, that’s the option we’d choose.
We didn’t do the trek and returned to Shkoder each time. I can’t speak to its difficulty, but we were there in late May, and even experienced hikers had given up because of heavy rain and snow.
Hope this helps! It’s a stunning region you shouldn’t miss.
We’re a Canadian couple, both 77, and we’re already planning our vacation for fall 2027.
Timeframe: mid-September to mid-October... dates are flexible, and we might stay even longer.
Initially, I had planned this itinerary:
Athens (3), Naxos (4), Paros (4), Santorini (4), then a flight to Istanbul (7–10 days!!). This would let us maximize our flights and experience another culture.
That’s a lot of ferries, though... I’ve already cut out Milos.
Our second option would be to stay 2 x 15 days on two different islands, but I’d still keep Istanbul as our next destination... or maybe 30 days on one island that offers the chance to take day trips to other islands where the ferry ride is no more than 2 to 2.5 hours. For example, Naxos to Paros only takes 30 minutes. We could return the same evening or stay overnight.
Naxos seems like the best option!!!
For Istanbul, of course we want to do a day cruise on the Bosphorus and see Hagia Sophia. If we stay 6–7 days, what would be the other main attractions? Are there any points of interest we can reach by local bus?
Our second option would be to stay 2 x 15 days on two different islands, but I’d still keep Istanbul as our next destination... or maybe 30 days on one island that offers the chance to take day trips to other islands where the ferry ride is no more than 2 to 2.5 hours. For example, Naxos to Paros only takes 30 minutes. We could return the same evening or stay overnight.
Naxos seems like the best option!!!
For Istanbul, of course we want to do a day cruise on the Bosphorus and see Hagia Sophia. If we stay 6–7 days, what would be the other main attractions? Are there any points of interest we can reach by local bus?
Hi there!
We bought our tickets to Greece at the end of November 2025, and let’s just say the geopolitical climate has really taken a turn since then with the war started by the United States against Iran. Not to mention all the other conflicts happening around the world 😕... Anyway!
Our flight from Montreal is on May 1st, and I was wondering how things are currently being experienced in Greece.
We were planning to rent a car and had already booked accommodations on three Cyclades islands!!
The oil shortage is also worrying us...
If you could share some insights on this, that would be great!
Thanks!!
Thanks!!





