Depuis quelle gare prend-on le shinkansen pour Kyoto et quel est le nom de ce train ? merci d'avance
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Depuis quelle gare prend-on le shinkansen pour Kyoto et quel est le nom de ce train ? merci d'avance
Depuis quelle gare prend-on le shinkansen pour Kyoto et quel est le nom de ce train ? merci d'avance
Bonjour pour connaître les gares, horaires et coût du transport il y a ce site http://www.hyperdia.com/en/cgi/en/search.html?dep_node=TOKYO&arv_node=KYOTO&via_node01=&via_node02=&via_node03=&year=2013&month=01&day=06&hour=14&minute=32&search_type=0&search_way=&transtime=undefined&sort=0&max_route=5&ship=off&lmlimit=null&search_target=route&facility=reserved&sum_target=7
Depuis quelle gare prend-on le shinkansen pour Kyoto et quel est le nom de ce train ?
merci d'avance
Bonjour,
Dans mon souvenir (2007), il était possible de prendre ce train depuis les gares de Tokyo ou de Shinagawa. Le Shinkansen le plus rapide (celui qui fait le moins d'arrêts) s'appelait le Nozomi. Je ne me rappelle pas des noms des autres trains de la ligne... (mais google devrait vous aider).
Bonjour,
Dans mon souvenir (2007), il était possible de prendre ce train depuis les gares de Tokyo ou de Shinagawa. Le Shinkansen le plus rapide (celui qui fait le moins d'arrêts) s'appelait le Nozomi. Je ne me rappelle pas des noms des autres trains de la ligne... (mais google devrait vous aider).
Maybe you should be a little more afraid of me than you are right now.
http://flightdiary.net/friendly45
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en effet, tu ne peux pas prendre le nozomi.
tu pars depuis la ville ou tu souhaite partir directement depuis l'aeroport ?
tu pars depuis la ville ou tu souhaite partir directement depuis l'aeroport ?
Départ à la gare de Tokyo accessible en métro par la ligne Marunouchi (rouge) ou par la ligne Yamanote.
donc ce sera bien la gare de tokyo 🙂
Bonjour à tous,
Nous partons au Japon fin Septembre 🙂... un rêve qui va devenir réalité pour moi... Alors quelques questions... Nous arrivons à Narita et partirons dans la foulée pour Kyoto ou nous passerons 5 jours avant de revenir sur Tokyo pour la fin de notre séjour. On ne prendra pas le JR pass qui nous semble peu interessant dans le sens ou le Mozomi n'est pas inclus dedans et franchement pas envie de se tapper 10 changements entre ces deux villes avec tous les bagages... puis aussi je pense que ce train est un incontournable quand on va là bas 🙂 Doit on acheter le billet avant ou est il possible de l'acheter le jour de l'arrivée et donc du départ pour Kyoto? Le Mozomi part-il de la même gare que le train qui arrive de l'aéroport (Le narita Express)? Voilà concernant le train c'est tout.
Merci d'avance 😏
Nous partons au Japon fin Septembre 🙂... un rêve qui va devenir réalité pour moi... Alors quelques questions... Nous arrivons à Narita et partirons dans la foulée pour Kyoto ou nous passerons 5 jours avant de revenir sur Tokyo pour la fin de notre séjour. On ne prendra pas le JR pass qui nous semble peu interessant dans le sens ou le Mozomi n'est pas inclus dedans et franchement pas envie de se tapper 10 changements entre ces deux villes avec tous les bagages... puis aussi je pense que ce train est un incontournable quand on va là bas 🙂 Doit on acheter le billet avant ou est il possible de l'acheter le jour de l'arrivée et donc du départ pour Kyoto? Le Mozomi part-il de la même gare que le train qui arrive de l'aéroport (Le narita Express)? Voilà concernant le train c'est tout.
Merci d'avance 😏
Salut,
Je crains que vous ne confondiez Shinkansen et Nozomi.
Le Shinkansen est le train à grande vitesse japonais et le Nozomi n'est qu'un type de service Shinkansen (le plus rapide). Autrement dit, le JR Pass ne permet certes pas de prendre le Nozomi mais il permet de prendre tous les autres services Shinkansen.
Sinon tu peux acheter le billet de train le jour même juste avant d'embarquer.
Bapt
Je crains que vous ne confondiez Shinkansen et Nozomi.
Le Shinkansen est le train à grande vitesse japonais et le Nozomi n'est qu'un type de service Shinkansen (le plus rapide). Autrement dit, le JR Pass ne permet certes pas de prendre le Nozomi mais il permet de prendre tous les autres services Shinkansen.
Sinon tu peux acheter le billet de train le jour même juste avant d'embarquer.
Bapt
Oui, avec le JR Pass, on peut prendre les Hikari qui en gros ne mettent que 20 mn de plus que les Nozomi.
En plus, on ne paie pas pour le Narita Express (Narita-Tokyo = 30 €), car le Shinkansen ne part pas de Narita mais de Tokyo (la gare), seul changement pour Kyoto.
Si tu restes moins de 7 nuits hors de Tokyo, le JR Pass est incontournable.
Si tu restes moins de 7 nuits hors de Tokyo, le JR Pass est incontournable.
Heu ! salut !
Je ne sais pas si je suis mal réveillée, mais je ne comprends pas ta réponse.😊
Pourrais-tu la reformuler, car je ne vois pas ce que tu veux dire avec "Si tu restes moins de 7 nuits hors de Tokyo, le JR Pass est incontournable".
Il me semblait que le JR Pass n'était pas nécessaire pour un unique trajet Tokyo-Kyoto auquel on ajouterait le Narita Express aller et retour ..... Me tromperais-je ???
Il me semblait que le JR Pass n'était pas nécessaire pour un unique trajet Tokyo-Kyoto auquel on ajouterait le Narita Express aller et retour ..... Me tromperais-je ???
Narita-Tokyo = 3 000¥ (avec le Nex)
Tokyo-Kyoto = 13 000¥
JR Pass 7 jours = 28 000 ¥
Donc pour un aller simple Tokyo-Kyoto, ce n'est pas intéressant, mais pour l'aller-retour, comme dans le cas de Zabou, si.
Pour la différence entre le Nozomi et le Hikari, quelques images valent mieux qu'un long discours...
Prenons quelques images sur le net et regardons d'abord le Nozomi (espoir) :
Ah non, flûte, je me suis trompé de Nozomi...

Puis regardons le Hikari (lumière) :

La principale différence, ce sont les arrêts. Le Nozomi permet de faire directement Tokyo-Fukuoka, ce qui n'est pas le cas de l'Hikari. Et le Nozomi est légèrement plus rapide que l'Hikari, peut-être justement à cause des arrêts. Mais avec le JR Pass, on peut quand même accéder au Shinkansen. D'ailleurs, une voix l'annonce à chaque fois : Welcome to the world of the Shinkansen, avec une sensualité extrême (orientale).
Ah non, flûte, je me suis trompé de Nozomi...

Puis regardons le Hikari (lumière) :

La principale différence, ce sont les arrêts. Le Nozomi permet de faire directement Tokyo-Fukuoka, ce qui n'est pas le cas de l'Hikari. Et le Nozomi est légèrement plus rapide que l'Hikari, peut-être justement à cause des arrêts. Mais avec le JR Pass, on peut quand même accéder au Shinkansen. D'ailleurs, une voix l'annonce à chaque fois : Welcome to the world of the Shinkansen, avec une sensualité extrême (orientale).
Bonjour à tous,
Nous partons au Japon fin Septembre 🙂... un rêve qui va devenir réalité pour moi... Alors quelques questions... Nous arrivons à Narita et partirons dans la foulée pour Kyoto ou nous passerons 5 jours avant de revenir sur Tokyo pour la fin de notre séjour.
Déjà acheté le billet, ou est-il encore temps de prendre un vol arrivant à Osaka et repartant de Tokyo ? L'éventuelle différence de prix serait largement compensée par l'économie sur le train et le temps (pas besoin de retourner en arrière) ...
On ne prendra pas le JR pass qui nous semble peu interessant dans le sens ou le Mozomi n'est pas inclus dedans et franchement pas envie de se tapper 10 changements entre ces deux villes avec tous les bagages... puis aussi je pense que ce train est un incontournable quand on va là bas 🙂
Comme expliqué plus haut, pour vous rendre à Kyoto vous aurez de toutes les façons un changement à Tokyo ou Shinagawa pour prendre un Shinkansen en venant de Narita. Il n'y a aucune différence de sensation ni de confort entre les Nozomi et les Hikari, ce dernier ne met que 20 min de plus pour rejoindre Kyoto mais l'économie que permet le JRpass les vaut largement.
Fin septembre, à part 2 sets de sous-vêtements et 2 t-shirts, pas besoin de bagage encombrant à l'aller (au retour après tout le shopping, évidemment, c'est autre chose 😉). Les hébergements fournissent quasiment tous du linge et des produits de toilette de bonne qualité, et on trouve à en acheter partout pour trois francs six sous dans les combinis et les magasins à 100 yens si besoin.
Doit on acheter le billet avant ou est il possible de l'acheter le jour de l'arrivée et donc du départ pour Kyoto?
Vous devez faire valider (transformer le "voucher" en véritable railpass) à l'aéroport, au "travel center" dans la gare et vous pouvez en profiter pour faire toutes vos réservations (gratuites) dans la foulée.
Nous partons au Japon fin Septembre 🙂... un rêve qui va devenir réalité pour moi... Alors quelques questions... Nous arrivons à Narita et partirons dans la foulée pour Kyoto ou nous passerons 5 jours avant de revenir sur Tokyo pour la fin de notre séjour.
Déjà acheté le billet, ou est-il encore temps de prendre un vol arrivant à Osaka et repartant de Tokyo ? L'éventuelle différence de prix serait largement compensée par l'économie sur le train et le temps (pas besoin de retourner en arrière) ...
On ne prendra pas le JR pass qui nous semble peu interessant dans le sens ou le Mozomi n'est pas inclus dedans et franchement pas envie de se tapper 10 changements entre ces deux villes avec tous les bagages... puis aussi je pense que ce train est un incontournable quand on va là bas 🙂
Comme expliqué plus haut, pour vous rendre à Kyoto vous aurez de toutes les façons un changement à Tokyo ou Shinagawa pour prendre un Shinkansen en venant de Narita. Il n'y a aucune différence de sensation ni de confort entre les Nozomi et les Hikari, ce dernier ne met que 20 min de plus pour rejoindre Kyoto mais l'économie que permet le JRpass les vaut largement.
Fin septembre, à part 2 sets de sous-vêtements et 2 t-shirts, pas besoin de bagage encombrant à l'aller (au retour après tout le shopping, évidemment, c'est autre chose 😉). Les hébergements fournissent quasiment tous du linge et des produits de toilette de bonne qualité, et on trouve à en acheter partout pour trois francs six sous dans les combinis et les magasins à 100 yens si besoin.
Doit on acheter le billet avant ou est il possible de l'acheter le jour de l'arrivée et donc du départ pour Kyoto?
Vous devez faire valider (transformer le "voucher" en véritable railpass) à l'aéroport, au "travel center" dans la gare et vous pouvez en profiter pour faire toutes vos réservations (gratuites) dans la foulée.
"green seat" = première classe
Exemple : un trajet Tokyo - Kyoto en Nozomi : coût du trajet 7980 Yen auquel tu ajoutes 4730 Yen si tu ne réserves pas ou 5340 Yen si tu veux réserver un siège ou 10180 Yen pour un siège en 1ère classe
Donc 7980 + 4730 = 12710 sans résa 7980 + 5340 = 13320 avec résa normale 7980 + 10180 = 18160 avec résa 1ère classe
😉
Exemple : un trajet Tokyo - Kyoto en Nozomi : coût du trajet 7980 Yen auquel tu ajoutes 4730 Yen si tu ne réserves pas ou 5340 Yen si tu veux réserver un siège ou 10180 Yen pour un siège en 1ère classe
Donc 7980 + 4730 = 12710 sans résa 7980 + 5340 = 13320 avec résa normale 7980 + 10180 = 18160 avec résa 1ère classe
😉
Les "greenseat" sont en effet la 1ère classe, plus chère. La différence de prix ne vaut pas la peine vu le confort de la catégorie ordinaire (bien supérieure à celle d'une 1ère en TGV français, hélas).
Donc
7980 + 4730 = 12710 sans résa
7980 + 5340 = 13320 avec résa normale
7980 + 10180 = 18160 avec résa 1ère classe
😉
Et 0 + 0 = 0, avec le JR Pass.
😉
Et 0 + 0 = 0, avec le JR Pass.
Vi, mais si tu l'achètes 3 mois avant, tu n'y penses même plus une fois sur place !
bjr oui avant de t'embéter .... lollll j'avais été sur le site de hyper...; machin..... etc
et rien trouver comme explication pour les "greenseat" surement que je suis pas assez " bon" lolllll
idem sur internet encore merci pour l'aide
on part A F le 5 avril sur kyoto 3jr puis tokyo 3 jr un peu musée ou "truc" à touriste etc..... mais + = cerisiers et si possible manga.... " vivantes" ..
Mais non, tu n'as simplement pas réalisé ce que signifie "greenseat". En faisant une simulation sur hyperdia.com pour un trajet donné, sous "Seat fee" tu trouves un petit menu déroulant avec
greenseat reserved seat unreserved seat
Vu le prix du "greenseat", il ne peut s'agir que d'une classe supérieure, donc une 1ère classe, logique non ?
D'autre part, si tu avais fait une recherche sur le VF, tu aurais trouvé un poste au sujet du greenseat. 😉
Bon voyage !
greenseat reserved seat unreserved seat
Vu le prix du "greenseat", il ne peut s'agir que d'une classe supérieure, donc une 1ère classe, logique non ?
D'autre part, si tu avais fait une recherche sur le VF, tu aurais trouvé un poste au sujet du greenseat. 😉
Bon voyage !
bjr oui j'ai bien vu et lu le message "déroulant"
avec les trois " noms de sieges " et trois prix dans un TRES cher ...
mais comme on lit tout et son contraire , et qu'on peut tout supposer ,
j'ai pas eu la " logique" de penser qu' il fallait obligatoirement traduire
greenseat par 1 er classe
maintenant je saurai que au japon = green ( vert) se traduit pâr = 1 er
les japonais ont raison de faire simple...... greenseat , au lieu de faire compliquer ...... 1 er classe lollll
sur un site résa surtout orienté touriste pas forcément autochtone .
j'ai cherché mal ..... greenseat sur le forum , pas trouver , çà depend parfois comment on formule la question ni trouver sur site tourist japon ni sur google
pour te faire sourire j'ai fait en 2012 en 11 mois sur A F = 141.000 Miles statuts et 49 Vols Qualifiant donc double platinum AF pour 2013 et 2014 plus 4 vols et quelques miles !!!! chez Ibéria OK
donc théoriquement je sais voyager ... lollll mais là j'ai pas décodé ..... ok j'ai compris = parce que c'est du train...... !!!!
je suis rentrer de st martin hier , suis déjà gold au 18 mars donc pour 2015 .... mais leur gold platinum c'est de plus en plus = " avantage" bidon
merci encore de ta gentille explication
j'ai cherché mal ..... greenseat sur le forum , pas trouver , çà depend parfois comment on formule la question ni trouver sur site tourist japon ni sur google
pour te faire sourire j'ai fait en 2012 en 11 mois sur A F = 141.000 Miles statuts et 49 Vols Qualifiant donc double platinum AF pour 2013 et 2014 plus 4 vols et quelques miles !!!! chez Ibéria OK
donc théoriquement je sais voyager ... lollll mais là j'ai pas décodé ..... ok j'ai compris = parce que c'est du train...... !!!!
je suis rentrer de st martin hier , suis déjà gold au 18 mars donc pour 2015 .... mais leur gold platinum c'est de plus en plus = " avantage" bidon
merci encore de ta gentille explication
pour te faire sourire j'ai fait en 2012 en 11 mois sur A F = 141.000 Miles statuts et 49 Vols Qualifiant donc double platinum AF pour 2013 et 2014
plus 4 vols et quelques miles !!!! chez Ibéria OK
donc théoriquement je sais voyager ... lollll mais là j'ai pas décodé ..... ok j'ai compris = parce que c'est du train...... !!!!
je suis rentrer de st martin hier , suis déjà gold au 18 mars donc pour 2015 .... mais leur gold platinum c'est de plus en plus = " avantage" bidon
Comme tu dis, théoriquement. Désolée, mais ce n'est pas au nombre de miles accumulés que l'on reconnaît un "voyageur accompli ou averti". Ceci dit sans vouloir te vexer, mais cela me fait sourire ...😛
Je n'ai jamais voyagé au Japon mais en consultant Hyperdia.com, pour moi il était évident que sous la rubrique "reserved seat" que le "green seat" ne pouvait être que la 1ère classe et pas une vue de l'esprit. Lol
donc théoriquement je sais voyager ... lollll mais là j'ai pas décodé ..... ok j'ai compris = parce que c'est du train...... !!!!
je suis rentrer de st martin hier , suis déjà gold au 18 mars donc pour 2015 .... mais leur gold platinum c'est de plus en plus = " avantage" bidon
Comme tu dis, théoriquement. Désolée, mais ce n'est pas au nombre de miles accumulés que l'on reconnaît un "voyageur accompli ou averti". Ceci dit sans vouloir te vexer, mais cela me fait sourire ...😛
Je n'ai jamais voyagé au Japon mais en consultant Hyperdia.com, pour moi il était évident que sous la rubrique "reserved seat" que le "green seat" ne pouvait être que la 1ère classe et pas une vue de l'esprit. Lol
Bonjour,
Je me permets de rebondir. Je cherche désespérément sur Hyperdia les horaires du train HIKARI entre Tokyo et Kyoto et je ne trouve que le NOZOMI. Soit je cherche mal, soit ce train n'est plus en service sur cette ligne pour ne pas pouvoir utilier le JR Pass.
Merci de votre aide.
Nab
Je me permets de rebondir. Je cherche désespérément sur Hyperdia les horaires du train HIKARI entre Tokyo et Kyoto et je ne trouve que le NOZOMI. Soit je cherche mal, soit ce train n'est plus en service sur cette ligne pour ne pas pouvoir utilier le JR Pass.
Merci de votre aide.
Nab
"Les relations, c'est comme l'argent, on n'en a jamais assez"
Hello,
et pourtant je viens de lancer une recherche Tokyo - Kyoto pour le 18/08/13 et en décochant dans les paramètres de recherche "Nozomi", je trouve bien des trains "Hikari" (toutes les 30 min en matinée)...
a quelle date avais-tu cherché?
et pourtant je viens de lancer une recherche Tokyo - Kyoto pour le 18/08/13 et en décochant dans les paramètres de recherche "Nozomi", je trouve bien des trains "Hikari" (toutes les 30 min en matinée)...
a quelle date avais-tu cherché?
2010: New York & Washington, 2011: Chine, 2012: Bali, 2013: Japon
J'ai compris mon erreur. Je décochais également "Bullet Train".
Merci de m'avoir répondu 🙂
Merci de m'avoir répondu 🙂
"Les relations, c'est comme l'argent, on n'en a jamais assez"
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Thanks!
HuancayoHuancayo
Hi everyone,
As part of my professional thesis, I’m conducting a study on the evolution of long-distance rail transport in France, particularly since it opened up to competition. I’ve put together a very quick (about 5-minute) and completely anonymous questionnaire. Your answers will help me better understand users' expectations regarding pricing, frequency, and environmental impact.
Questionnaire link: https://forms.gle/gF1YyesVp2hkh2GDA
Thanks so much for your help! !
As part of my professional thesis, I’m conducting a study on the evolution of long-distance rail transport in France, particularly since it opened up to competition. I’ve put together a very quick (about 5-minute) and completely anonymous questionnaire. Your answers will help me better understand users' expectations regarding pricing, frequency, and environmental impact.
Questionnaire link: https://forms.gle/gF1YyesVp2hkh2GDA
Thanks so much for your help! !
Hi everyone,
Are there any luggage lockers at Krung Thep Aphiwat Station in Bangkok?
Thanks in advance to those who can help me out, and happy travels! Jaunesoleil
Thanks in advance to those who can help me out, and happy travels! Jaunesoleil
Hi there,
We’re planning a 15-day trip to Uzbekistan in March—classic independent itinerary: Tashkent, Samarkand, Bukhara, Khiva. We’d like to take the train between each city, but I don’t want to lock down the whole trip before we leave.
So, my question is: is it absolutely necessary to book train tickets before departure, whether for the high-speed trains or the regional ones? Is booking really essential for the regional trains?
Thanks a bunch!
Philippe
We’re planning a 15-day trip to Uzbekistan in March—classic independent itinerary: Tashkent, Samarkand, Bukhara, Khiva. We’d like to take the train between each city, but I don’t want to lock down the whole trip before we leave.
So, my question is: is it absolutely necessary to book train tickets before departure, whether for the high-speed trains or the regional ones? Is booking really essential for the regional trains?
Thanks a bunch!
Philippe
Hello,
We’re traveling as a family with two boys aged 10 and 12 to Cairo in February. During our trip, we’re planning to take an overnight train (with or without a sleeper) for the Cairo-Aswan route.
Do you know how I can book this remotely?
Also, I’m looking for: - A local contact to sail the Nile by felucca for 3 days from Aswan - A contact to guide us in Cairo
Looking forward to your tips, and thanks in advance! Marie
Also, I’m looking for: - A local contact to sail the Nile by felucca for 3 days from Aswan - A contact to guide us in Cairo
Looking forward to your tips, and thanks in advance! Marie
Hi everyone,
I first traveled solo to Japan in 2019, exploring the Kyushu region (28 days), and I’m planning to return with my daughter (she’s an adult and it’ll be her first time in Asia) from April 25 to May 9.
I’m reaching out on this forum to ask for route ideas—this time north of Tokyo, but without heading to the Sapporo island (I’m saving that for a future trip).
I’d love to take advantage of the cherry blossom season and its festivities.
I’m looking to create a route that’s a little off the beaten path while staying within 5-6 hours by train from Tokyo to avoid spending too much time on transfers.
Thanks in advance for sharing your suggestions and experiences!
Michael
I'm heading to MEXICO IN NOVEMBER 2025. Since private guides and drivers are really expensive—over 300 € per day—I'm thinking of exploring the Yucatán by train. CAN YOU SHARE ANY INFO ON THIS? Thanks
Hi there!
We’re planning to visit Serbia (1 week) and then Montenegro (2nd week) with our kids from April 18 to May 4. We’d prefer to travel by train (overnight if possible), but we’re not sure which platform to book on or when to do it (is it too early?). If anyone has any tips, I’m all ears!!
Je voulais savoir si il etait possible d'aller de Tashkent à Almaty en train sans passer par le Kirkistan. On m'a dit que la frontière etait souvent fermee 😕 entre ces l'ouzbekistan et le kazakhstan
merci d'avance
Olivier
Hi there!
We’re planning to head back to Istanbul next year—obviously by plane—and then take the train from Istanbul to Antalya. Has anyone here already made this trip by train with TCDD?
I’d love any tips or info that could be useful for us!
J'aimerais aller à Montserrat par moi même de Barcelone. Donnez moi vos suggestion.
Quel train prendre, où descendre, quoi voire une fois arrivé, etc
Hi there,
I need to take a sleeper train from Bangkok to Vientiane in January. I found some ticket options on 12Go Asia, but booking doesn’t seem possible at the moment. I’ve tried simulations for several dates, but no luck. I’m wondering if it’s already fully booked, if they’ve stopped selling tickets… yet 12Go still features it every day 😕
Has anyone else run into this issue? Can I find tickets on another site? (I tried Baolau, but no sleepers left for January 8th.)
Thanks!
I need to take a sleeper train from Bangkok to Vientiane in January. I found some ticket options on 12Go Asia, but booking doesn’t seem possible at the moment. I’ve tried simulations for several dates, but no luck. I’m wondering if it’s already fully booked, if they’ve stopped selling tickets… yet 12Go still features it every day 😕
Has anyone else run into this issue? Can I find tickets on another site? (I tried Baolau, but no sleepers left for January 8th.)
Thanks!
Hi there,
I’m a bit late to be worrying about this, but hopefully someone can help me before I leave.
Tomorrow afternoon, I arrive at Lyon Part-Dieu on the TGV at 5:50 PM and take the TER to Mâcon at 6:16 PM. Is a 26-minute transfer doable? Are the TGV and TER on the same departure board? And are they on the same platforms too?
I’ve been to Lyon before but never had to make a connection after arriving.
Thanks
Hi there,
I can’t seem to complete the payment for my trip on the IRCTC (Indian Railways) site. No matter which payment method I choose, my Visa card isn’t accepted. Has anyone here managed to do it, and if so, could you share the method you used? Thanks in advance! Charlie
I can’t seem to complete the payment for my trip on the IRCTC (Indian Railways) site. No matter which payment method I choose, my Visa card isn’t accepted. Has anyone here managed to do it, and if so, could you share the method you used? Thanks in advance! Charlie
Hello,
Starting November 15th, I’ll be arriving in Thailand, and during my stay, I plan to visit the north, around the Chiang Mai area, then head south to the Krabi region. After Krabi, I’m planning to take an overnight train to Bangkok. I was wondering if there’s a train that leaves from Krabi or Trang, or if I absolutely have to go to Surat Thani? Also, which official website can I use to book my ticket?
Next, since I’ll be arriving at dawn in Bangkok, I’ve planned to spend 2 days in Kanchanaburi. What’s the most convenient way to get there—bus or train? And if you know any companies or websites, that’d be great.
Thanks for your tips!
Fred
Starting November 15th, I’ll be arriving in Thailand, and during my stay, I plan to visit the north, around the Chiang Mai area, then head south to the Krabi region. After Krabi, I’m planning to take an overnight train to Bangkok. I was wondering if there’s a train that leaves from Krabi or Trang, or if I absolutely have to go to Surat Thani? Also, which official website can I use to book my ticket?
Next, since I’ll be arriving at dawn in Bangkok, I’ve planned to spend 2 days in Kanchanaburi. What’s the most convenient way to get there—bus or train? And if you know any companies or websites, that’d be great.
Thanks for your tips!
Fred
Hi! I arrive in Vancouver on August 24, 2025, and I’m staying until Friday, August 29, 2025—the day I take *The Canadian* train to Toronto.
I’m exploring several things in Vancouver, including whale watching—if you’ve got any great tips, don’t hesitate! Thanks!
I’m exploring several things in Vancouver, including whale watching—if you’ve got any great tips, don’t hesitate! Thanks!
Hi there,
Does anyone know if there’s a bus from Luang Namtha to Boten to catch the train coming from China to Vientiane? If so, what’s the name of the company? Also, how long does the bus take to cover that distance? What’s the condition of the road like?
Thanks for your help!
Tom
I just realized there’s only one payment method accepted for booking the Mombasa-Nairobi express train ticket online: M-Pesa, a mobile money transfer service used in Africa. Would it be impossible to book as a European?
Hi
Have any of you booked tickets through rail.ninja?
Hi there,
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient). But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this? We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help, and have a great Sunday!
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient). But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this? We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help, and have a great Sunday!
Hi there,
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Thanks
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Thanks
Hi everyone,
For traveling in Rajasthan by train and bus, could you give me some info: where to buy tickets, cost, purchase locations, websites, etc.?
Any tips you have would be super helpful.
Thanks
Hi there,
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us. I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com. Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend? Are the tickets changeable?
Thanks for your help!
Nicole
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us. I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com. Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend? Are the tickets changeable?
Thanks for your help!
Nicole
Hi everyone,
I’m planning to travel from Ulaanbaatar to Irkutsk by train this summer but I’m a bit worried about crossing the borders. How does it work? Could anyone share their experience? (I’ve found quite a few accounts of people going *from* Russia *to* Mongolia, but entering a country is never the same as leaving it—especially in this context!)
Thanks in advance! 😊
Thanks in advance! 😊
Hi
Can anyone tell me how to book train tickets online? We're planning to travel from HANOI to HO CHI MINH CITY by train, making several stops along the way. I'd also like to find the schedules and the stations where the trains stop.
There are four of us, and we've already planned stops in HANOI / DONG HOI / HUE.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!
Mounette74
Can anyone tell me how to book train tickets online? We're planning to travel from HANOI to HO CHI MINH CITY by train, making several stops along the way. I'd also like to find the schedules and the stations where the trains stop.
There are four of us, and we've already planned stops in HANOI / DONG HOI / HUE.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!
Mounette74
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Japan for the second time with my 20-year-old son. During our first trip, we spent two weeks in Tokyo and Kyoto (plus the surrounding areas). This time, we’re planning to stay in Tokyo for at least 4-5 days and then head to the island of Naoshima. I’m looking for suggestions and advice: Is getting to Naoshima from Tokyo complicated? If so, do you have any recommendations for a stopover somewhere? Given that we’d prefer not to move every day, we’d rather settle in one place and then explore on day trips... Do you think it’s possible to do something like this: 5 nights in Tokyo (Shinjuku) 3 nights in Kyoto 2 nights in Naoshima (or is one night enough??) and if one night is enough, where could I spend a second night on the way back to Tokyo? 2 nights in Tokyo (I’d love your advice on staying in a different neighborhood—last time we stayed near Ueno Park)—keeping in mind we’re flying out of Narita.
I’m considering maybe skipping Kyoto, which I love but has apparently become *very* touristy... Not really keen on Osaka... since we’ll already have done Tokyo as our "big city." I’d prefer towns where nature is present... (a bit like Kyoto, which offers all that...)
For info, we’ll be traveling by train. Thanks in advance for all your suggestions and help!
I have one last little question: Is cash still widely used in Japan, or not at all anymore?
Thanks so much,
Karine
I’m heading to Japan for the second time with my 20-year-old son. During our first trip, we spent two weeks in Tokyo and Kyoto (plus the surrounding areas). This time, we’re planning to stay in Tokyo for at least 4-5 days and then head to the island of Naoshima. I’m looking for suggestions and advice: Is getting to Naoshima from Tokyo complicated? If so, do you have any recommendations for a stopover somewhere? Given that we’d prefer not to move every day, we’d rather settle in one place and then explore on day trips... Do you think it’s possible to do something like this: 5 nights in Tokyo (Shinjuku) 3 nights in Kyoto 2 nights in Naoshima (or is one night enough??) and if one night is enough, where could I spend a second night on the way back to Tokyo? 2 nights in Tokyo (I’d love your advice on staying in a different neighborhood—last time we stayed near Ueno Park)—keeping in mind we’re flying out of Narita.
I’m considering maybe skipping Kyoto, which I love but has apparently become *very* touristy... Not really keen on Osaka... since we’ll already have done Tokyo as our "big city." I’d prefer towns where nature is present... (a bit like Kyoto, which offers all that...)
For info, we’ll be traveling by train. Thanks in advance for all your suggestions and help!
I have one last little question: Is cash still widely used in Japan, or not at all anymore?
Thanks so much,
Karine
Hi everyone,
We’re planning this *very* last-minute—I know! But we’d love to spend 4 days soon (within the next 10–12 days) on a city getaway with our young adult kids. Ideally by train, and for this short trip, we’d prefer not to spend more than 4–6 hours in transit, leaving from Lausanne (Switzerland). We’ve been considering Milan, Strasbourg, or Freiburg im Breisgau, but I’ll admit I’m feeling a bit lost...
Venice was our original plan, but the connection changes in Domodossola or Milan are making the travel time longer this year.
It’s peak summer, so there’ll be tourists and it’ll likely be hot, but oh well...
Any suggestions? We love wandering around, taking photos, exploring cities on foot, trying out restaurants, and keeping things low-key.
Thanks to anyone who wants to chime in! :o)
We’re planning this *very* last-minute—I know! But we’d love to spend 4 days soon (within the next 10–12 days) on a city getaway with our young adult kids. Ideally by train, and for this short trip, we’d prefer not to spend more than 4–6 hours in transit, leaving from Lausanne (Switzerland). We’ve been considering Milan, Strasbourg, or Freiburg im Breisgau, but I’ll admit I’m feeling a bit lost...
Venice was our original plan, but the connection changes in Domodossola or Milan are making the travel time longer this year.
It’s peak summer, so there’ll be tourists and it’ll likely be hot, but oh well...
Any suggestions? We love wandering around, taking photos, exploring cities on foot, trying out restaurants, and keeping things low-key.
Thanks to anyone who wants to chime in! :o)