Bonjour,
Je voudrais savoir si quand on fait le trek Huayhuash avec un muletier, on rencontre des problèmes pour le paiement des multiples "péages".
Merci de votre réponse
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Trek Huayhuash avec un muletier: problème racket?
by Yoann1
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Des problemes, c´est a dire ?
Que tu sois seul ou avec un muletier, tu devras effectivement te faire "racketter" de facon reguliere le long du parcours. Mais que cela ne te retienne pas d´y aller: les sommes prelevees restent raisonnables, et les preleveurs ne sont pas des voyous pour autant.
Une personnes qui te rackette est forcément un voyou.
Il y a pas de bon racketteur et de mauvais racketteur
Il y a pas de bon racketteur et de mauvais racketteur
"Un bivouac c'est un peu comme le dépucelage et la première cuite, une espèce de rite qui fais de toi un homme" (MonsieurHenri du site randonner-léger.org).
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Cela dépends ce que tu appel du racket...
Dans la cordillère Huayhuash les rares habitants demande quelques soles aux touristes pour camper sur leurs pâturages... Est-ce du racket?
Si vous allez faire du trekking dans la cordillère Blanche, juste à côté, vous devrez payer environ 60 soles au gouvernement pour entrer dans le parque national, ce n'est pas du racket, puisque c'est une entité légale qui prélève ce montant, pourtant il est plus élevé que celui à payer à Huayhuash...
Bref, que les habitants locaux bénéficie modestement des hordes de touristes qui passent par chez eux n'est pas, à mon avis, du racket. Surtout que les montant à payer sont connu avant de commencer le trek. Si vous n'êtes pas prêt à payer quelques Euros (environ 10€ pour 10jours de trek en 2009) aux habitants, n'y aller pas, c'est plus simple!
Dans la cordillère Huayhuash les rares habitants demande quelques soles aux touristes pour camper sur leurs pâturages... Est-ce du racket?
Si vous allez faire du trekking dans la cordillère Blanche, juste à côté, vous devrez payer environ 60 soles au gouvernement pour entrer dans le parque national, ce n'est pas du racket, puisque c'est une entité légale qui prélève ce montant, pourtant il est plus élevé que celui à payer à Huayhuash...
Bref, que les habitants locaux bénéficie modestement des hordes de touristes qui passent par chez eux n'est pas, à mon avis, du racket. Surtout que les montant à payer sont connu avant de commencer le trek. Si vous n'êtes pas prêt à payer quelques Euros (environ 10€ pour 10jours de trek en 2009) aux habitants, n'y aller pas, c'est plus simple!
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Cela dépends ce que tu appel du racket...
Dans la cordillère Huayhuash les rares habitants demande quelques soles aux touristes pour camper sur leurs pâturages... Est-ce du racket?
Si vous allez faire du trekking dans la cordillère Blanche, juste à côté, vous devrez payer environ 60 soles au gouvernement pour entrer dans le parque national, ce n'est pas du racket, puisque c'est une entité légale qui prélève ce montant, pourtant il est plus élevé que celui à payer à Huayhuash...
Bref, que les habitants locaux bénéficie modestement des hordes de touristes qui passent par chez eux n'est pas, à mon avis, du racket. Surtout que les montant à payer sont connu avant de commencer le trek. Si vous n'êtes pas prêt à payer quelques Euros (environ 10€ pour 10jours de trek en 2009) aux habitants, n'y aller pas, c'est plus simple!
Je n'ai jamais compris exactement si il fallait payer un droit de passage ou de camping pour Huayhuash, mais il faut savoir qu'il existe aussi des rackets organisés par des institutions. C'est le cas du Colca par exemple qui n'est même pas un parc national. Comme les 3/4 des parcs nationaux nationaux du Pérou sont gratuits on peut donc également trouvez discutable le prix du parc Huascaran (Surtout si on va vérifier a quoi sert cet argent !).
Sinon dans beaucoup d'autres régions, on ne vous demandera pas un Sol ni pour passer ni pour camper ! Les parcs nationaux et itinéraires de trekking sont presque toujours gratuits à condition d'éviter les endroits les plus touristiques !
Dans la cordillère Huayhuash les rares habitants demande quelques soles aux touristes pour camper sur leurs pâturages... Est-ce du racket?
Si vous allez faire du trekking dans la cordillère Blanche, juste à côté, vous devrez payer environ 60 soles au gouvernement pour entrer dans le parque national, ce n'est pas du racket, puisque c'est une entité légale qui prélève ce montant, pourtant il est plus élevé que celui à payer à Huayhuash...
Bref, que les habitants locaux bénéficie modestement des hordes de touristes qui passent par chez eux n'est pas, à mon avis, du racket. Surtout que les montant à payer sont connu avant de commencer le trek. Si vous n'êtes pas prêt à payer quelques Euros (environ 10€ pour 10jours de trek en 2009) aux habitants, n'y aller pas, c'est plus simple!
Je n'ai jamais compris exactement si il fallait payer un droit de passage ou de camping pour Huayhuash, mais il faut savoir qu'il existe aussi des rackets organisés par des institutions. C'est le cas du Colca par exemple qui n'est même pas un parc national. Comme les 3/4 des parcs nationaux nationaux du Pérou sont gratuits on peut donc également trouvez discutable le prix du parc Huascaran (Surtout si on va vérifier a quoi sert cet argent !).
Sinon dans beaucoup d'autres régions, on ne vous demandera pas un Sol ni pour passer ni pour camper ! Les parcs nationaux et itinéraires de trekking sont presque toujours gratuits à condition d'éviter les endroits les plus touristiques !
Je savais que le terme "racket" risquait de faire reagir, je constate avec amusement que je ne me suis pas trompe 🙂.
Une personnes qui te rackette est forcément un voyou.
Il y a pas de bon racketteur et de mauvais racketteur
lol 😏
Il y a pas de bon racketteur et de mauvais racketteur
lol 😏
Cela dépends ce que tu appel du racket...
Dans la cordillère Huayhuash les rares habitants demande quelques soles aux touristes pour camper sur leurs pâturages... Est-ce du racket?
Cela pourrait faire l´objet de debats sans fin, mais a mon sens clairement: oui 🙂. Pour la simple raison qu´il s´agit de prelevements sans justification. La justification officielle est que les locaux assurent la securite sur les lieux de campements. Bizarre, mais lors du trek, je n´ai jamais vu personne sur les lieux de campements pour assurer la securite. En fait, je vais etre mauvaise langue (je ne pense pas vraiment ce que j´ecris), mais si tu ne paies pas, c´est la que tu risques d´avoir quelques petits soucis de securite 🙂.
Si vous allez faire du trekking dans la cordillère Blanche, juste à côté, vous devrez payer environ 60 soles au gouvernement pour entrer dans le parque national, ce n'est pas du racket, puisque c'est une entité légale qui prélève ce montant, pourtant il est plus élevé que celui à payer à Huayhuash...
Ca n´est pas un probleme de montant, mais un probleme de justification. Meme s´il ne sert pas a grand chose a mon humble avis, le prix d´entree du parc Huascaran a une vrai justification. Exemples: il sert a etablir et maintenir quelques panneaux d´affichage, le maintien de toilettes propres sur certains lieux de camping tres frequentes et fait vivre quelques guadaparques.
Bref, que les habitants locaux bénéficie modestement des hordes de touristes qui passent par chez eux n'est pas, à mon avis, du racket. Surtout que les montant à payer sont connu avant de commencer le trek.
Ahhh, mais ils ont bien raison, ils auraient tort de se priver, et je ne leur en veux pas du tout. D´ailleurs, je n´ai pas perdu l´occasion d´en plaisanter avec eux lorsque j´ai parcouru les sentiers de Huayhuash il y´a quelques annees 🙂.
Dans la cordillère Huayhuash les rares habitants demande quelques soles aux touristes pour camper sur leurs pâturages... Est-ce du racket?
Cela pourrait faire l´objet de debats sans fin, mais a mon sens clairement: oui 🙂. Pour la simple raison qu´il s´agit de prelevements sans justification. La justification officielle est que les locaux assurent la securite sur les lieux de campements. Bizarre, mais lors du trek, je n´ai jamais vu personne sur les lieux de campements pour assurer la securite. En fait, je vais etre mauvaise langue (je ne pense pas vraiment ce que j´ecris), mais si tu ne paies pas, c´est la que tu risques d´avoir quelques petits soucis de securite 🙂.
Si vous allez faire du trekking dans la cordillère Blanche, juste à côté, vous devrez payer environ 60 soles au gouvernement pour entrer dans le parque national, ce n'est pas du racket, puisque c'est une entité légale qui prélève ce montant, pourtant il est plus élevé que celui à payer à Huayhuash...
Ca n´est pas un probleme de montant, mais un probleme de justification. Meme s´il ne sert pas a grand chose a mon humble avis, le prix d´entree du parc Huascaran a une vrai justification. Exemples: il sert a etablir et maintenir quelques panneaux d´affichage, le maintien de toilettes propres sur certains lieux de camping tres frequentes et fait vivre quelques guadaparques.
Bref, que les habitants locaux bénéficie modestement des hordes de touristes qui passent par chez eux n'est pas, à mon avis, du racket. Surtout que les montant à payer sont connu avant de commencer le trek.
Ahhh, mais ils ont bien raison, ils auraient tort de se priver, et je ne leur en veux pas du tout. D´ailleurs, je n´ai pas perdu l´occasion d´en plaisanter avec eux lorsque j´ai parcouru les sentiers de Huayhuash il y´a quelques annees 🙂.
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Nous privilégions le camping sauvage et les gites.
Merci d'avance
Hi there, for those who’ve been recently—is it possible to find other solo travelers in March on the island to share transport or room costs? It doesn’t seem easy to travel on a budget.
If you have any recommendations for simple lodgings or places with dorms, I’d love to hear them.
For those who’ve done multi-day treks while moving around: do you need to bring your own sleeping bag? I’d love to hear about itineraries you’ve done without a guide, just with a map and GPS.
Thanks, and have a great day!
Hi everyone!
We’re planning a 15-day road trip to Scotland this summer, specifically to explore and hike on Lewis and Harris—places we’ve never been before. We’ve visited other islands on previous road trips in Scotland (we usually go in April for a week). This would be our first time in Scotland in the summer and for 15 days. We’re looking at late August to early September.
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
Hi there, I’m trying to leave for 15 days very soon to São Vicente. I’m either looking to join an agency or figure things out on my own to go hiking on one of these islands or both. From what I’ve seen, it’s not easy to organize with local transport, so it gets expensive. Can I use the services of a small local agency? I’m looking for the simplest way to hike for several days. Also, how do you get from São Vicente to São Nicolau? Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Aichatou
Hi there,
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
hi
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra
Hello,
I’ll be in Nepal from March 6th to 29th (we’re flying into Kathmandu via Varanasi and leaving via Delhi).
I’m a bit confused about the regulations requiring a guide.
My wife and I (we’re 63 and 64) aren’t experienced trekkers—we’re more used to walking on terrain with very moderate elevation changes. I’m looking for fairly easy hikes, possibly day trips. Here are my questions: - Does the Poon Hill trek from Pokhara require a guide, or is it better to go through a local agency? (I’ve seen a lot of them offering 4-day packages) - I’d like to do a few multi-day hikes around Jomsom (Kagbeni, Mukitinath, Lupra, Marpha)... Do you need a guide for those, and can you find accommodations easily without booking in advance?
Last question—I’m really hesitant to lug around a sleeping bag or down jacket during our 6 weeks in India. Can you easily find these kinds of items at reasonable prices in Pokhara?
Thanks in advance for any tips you can share! Yann
My wife and I (we’re 63 and 64) aren’t experienced trekkers—we’re more used to walking on terrain with very moderate elevation changes. I’m looking for fairly easy hikes, possibly day trips. Here are my questions: - Does the Poon Hill trek from Pokhara require a guide, or is it better to go through a local agency? (I’ve seen a lot of them offering 4-day packages) - I’d like to do a few multi-day hikes around Jomsom (Kagbeni, Mukitinath, Lupra, Marpha)... Do you need a guide for those, and can you find accommodations easily without booking in advance?
Last question—I’m really hesitant to lug around a sleeping bag or down jacket during our 6 weeks in India. Can you easily find these kinds of items at reasonable prices in Pokhara?
Thanks in advance for any tips you can share! Yann