Itinéraire pour voyage scolaire à vélo en Espagne?
by Eldeserteur
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Nous sommes un groupe de 5 Québécois qui voyagera à vélo en Espagne ou en Italie (ou ailleurs en Europe où il ne ferait pas trop froid) avec 35 élèves de 15 ans 10 jours (6 jours de vélo environ 350-400 km) vers la fin avril 2014. Avez-vous un itinéraire facile mais intéressant à proposer ? Est-ce possible d'avoir une voie cyclable sur la majorité du chemin ? Que nous conseillez-vous ? Merci de votre aide!
Salut
A ma connaissance l' Espagne n' est pas le pays idéal pour le vélo, d' après ce que j' en sais
Perso j' ai parcouru le nord de l'Espagne en août 2007, jusqu a Santiago. Routes nationales.
je trouve que c' est dangereux. Et aussi trop dur pour les gamins
La France a des petites routes ...
L'Italie je ne connais pas du tout, je crois qu il faut surtout éviter les villes
Automobilistes seraient plutôt dangereux
En règle générale de toutes façons je suggere d' éviter les villes partout, mais tu dois déjà avoir de l'expérience j'imagine. infernal d'y entrer et d' en sortir
S'agit il d un voyage lié aux langues de ces pays ?
L Espagne est un peu une grande montagne. Ce n' est pas plat.
L Italie p être ?
D'autres doivent avoir des expériences je pense
Personnellement j essaie dorénavant de privilégier les parcours sans voisinage avec les voitures, et dans la nature. Ras le bol du bruit et des voitures
Bonne recherche
Bonjour
Je suppose que si vous choisissez l'Espagne c'est pour parler espagnol !, Sinon il est vrai qu'en Europe, d'autres pays sont peut être plus adaptés à la pratique du vélo. En ce qui concerne l'Espagne, vous trouverez peut être des infos sur le site http://www.cicloturisme.com/ ou sur celui des voies vertes d'Espagne Nous avions fait le trajet Du Nord de Madrid jusqu'en France, région très vallonée et peu adaptée à un groupe scolaire. Par contre Majorque est idéale pour le vélo surtout au printemps. Le centre de l'île est très rural, on peut y trouver des itinéraires sans trop de dénivelés, il y a plusieurs petites routes prioritaires pour les vélos et les automobilistes y sont très respectueux. Si vous souhaitez plus d'infos, n'hésitez pas ! Palma se rejoint en avion ou en ferry depuis Barcelone.
Sandrine
Je suppose que si vous choisissez l'Espagne c'est pour parler espagnol !, Sinon il est vrai qu'en Europe, d'autres pays sont peut être plus adaptés à la pratique du vélo. En ce qui concerne l'Espagne, vous trouverez peut être des infos sur le site http://www.cicloturisme.com/ ou sur celui des voies vertes d'Espagne Nous avions fait le trajet Du Nord de Madrid jusqu'en France, région très vallonée et peu adaptée à un groupe scolaire. Par contre Majorque est idéale pour le vélo surtout au printemps. Le centre de l'île est très rural, on peut y trouver des itinéraires sans trop de dénivelés, il y a plusieurs petites routes prioritaires pour les vélos et les automobilistes y sont très respectueux. Si vous souhaitez plus d'infos, n'hésitez pas ! Palma se rejoint en avion ou en ferry depuis Barcelone.
Sandrine
je circule souvent à vélo en Espagne .... beaucoup de routes sont "aux normes" c à d équipée de sur-largeurs de plus d' 1 m ... ce qui n'est pas le cas dans notre pays !!! et je m'y sent plus en sécurité que chez nous, quand mon itinéraire ne me permet pas d'éviter des routes fréquentées ...
Quelques itinéraires vélo existent (Ruta del Cid entre Burgos et Valence - voie le long de l'Ebre .... sans compter les trajets de St Jacques qui peuvent être adaptés à une pratique vélo ...)
Mes expériences italiennes sont très diverses : qqs provinces ont tenu compte de la pratique cycliste, d'autres non ... et sur un trajet Ancone - Venise - lac majeur ... je n'ai guère trouvé de secteurs équipés ou balisés : des sur-largeur sur la partie sud, et aussi, dans les villes, la possibilité, pour les vélos d'emprunter les trottoirs ... Par ailleurs, les équipements "type voie verte" ou "eurovéloroutes" sont restés, le plus souvent à l' état de simples projets !!! - Il n'y a guère que les toutes petites routes où l'on se sente "en sécurité" ...
Cela dit, pour préparer un itinéraire pour un groupe de scolaires, le problème sera de trouver des routes adaptées (faible fréquentation, voies cyclables, dénivelé raisonnable ...) et prévoir la "sécurisation" du groupe ... Un tel projet paraît plus raisonnable sur de "grand itinéraires dédiés" (EV6, canaux chez nous ..) ou dans des pays où la circulation cycliste est systématiquement prise en compte (suisse, notamment ..) mais leclimat n'est pas le même !!!
bonne (et efficace) préparation...
Mes expériences italiennes sont très diverses : qqs provinces ont tenu compte de la pratique cycliste, d'autres non ... et sur un trajet Ancone - Venise - lac majeur ... je n'ai guère trouvé de secteurs équipés ou balisés : des sur-largeur sur la partie sud, et aussi, dans les villes, la possibilité, pour les vélos d'emprunter les trottoirs ... Par ailleurs, les équipements "type voie verte" ou "eurovéloroutes" sont restés, le plus souvent à l' état de simples projets !!! - Il n'y a guère que les toutes petites routes où l'on se sente "en sécurité" ...
Cela dit, pour préparer un itinéraire pour un groupe de scolaires, le problème sera de trouver des routes adaptées (faible fréquentation, voies cyclables, dénivelé raisonnable ...) et prévoir la "sécurisation" du groupe ... Un tel projet paraît plus raisonnable sur de "grand itinéraires dédiés" (EV6, canaux chez nous ..) ou dans des pays où la circulation cycliste est systématiquement prise en compte (suisse, notamment ..) mais leclimat n'est pas le même !!!
bonne (et efficace) préparation...
michel mathieu
www.lethieu39.fr
Salut ! Pour avoir vécu et roulé en Espagne, je peux moi aussi conseiller les Vias Verdes. Je connais notamment celles de Catalogne, dont les paysages sont très variés et sympas, avec notamment la Via Verde del Carrilet. Cependant, elle est assez courte, et pour 10 jours cela ne sera pas suffisant.
A noter que le Pays Basque c'est assez difficile, car c'est très vallonné avec de bons dénivelés.
Je ne peux que vous recommander cet excellent blog, où les gens publient leurs itinéraires : http://www.rodadas.net/cicloviajes/destino/espana. En espérant que cela vous donne quelques idées ! (l'itinéraire de Cuenca - superbe ville - à Palencia a l'air super)
@ plus !
A noter que le Pays Basque c'est assez difficile, car c'est très vallonné avec de bons dénivelés.
Je ne peux que vous recommander cet excellent blog, où les gens publient leurs itinéraires : http://www.rodadas.net/cicloviajes/destino/espana. En espérant que cela vous donne quelques idées ! (l'itinéraire de Cuenca - superbe ville - à Palencia a l'air super)
@ plus !
http://www.opencyclemap.org/
légende : http://www.opencyclemap.org/docs/
Pour l'Italie : http://www.bicitalia.org http://www.piste-ciclabili.com/ Les régions historiques du cyclisme sont l'Emilie Romagne et le Veneto.
Cela dit, pourquoi ne pas choisir la France ? En particulier l'Ouest et le Sud Ouest. Au printemps le climat peut aussi y être agréable. http://www.af3v.org/
D'ici 2014 vous avez le temps d'y réfléchir...
Pour l'Italie : http://www.bicitalia.org http://www.piste-ciclabili.com/ Les régions historiques du cyclisme sont l'Emilie Romagne et le Veneto.
Cela dit, pourquoi ne pas choisir la France ? En particulier l'Ouest et le Sud Ouest. Au printemps le climat peut aussi y être agréable. http://www.af3v.org/
D'ici 2014 vous avez le temps d'y réfléchir...
Merci à tous pour vos conseils et liens fort utiles... Vous confirmez ce que je pensais: l'Espagne, ce n'est pas la Mecque du vélo, du moins pas pour un groupe scolaire! Nous allons continuer de cogiter. Nous avons déjà fait l'Autriche et les Pays Bas avec des groupes par le passé et nous cherchons des températures plus chaudes en avril.
Perso, j'aime bien l'Espagne, mais, si l'on est pas fixé sur la destination, il est vrai qu'il existe sur France (en écartant les pays plus froids ...) des itinéraires qui tendent les bras ... Au printemps, je pense, naturellement (ça se fait très bien en VTC ...) au Canal du Midi .... bonne recherche...
michel mathieu
www.lethieu39.fr
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I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
Hi there,
I’ve been road cycling for several years, and I’m about to switch to gravel in the next few days—I’m waiting for my bike, which should arrive this week.
I’m planning a bikepacking trip in a few weeks along the Véloroute V81, also known as the Vélosud, from Biarritz to Le Barcarès.
Has anyone here already done this route? Any info is welcome, whether it’s about the route itself, gear, or accommodation. I’ll prioritize staying with locals as much as possible. On that note, I just signed up for the brand-new site *Guidon et Couette* ((www.guidon-et-couette.fr)), which offers free accommodation between cyclists across the country, but there’s almost no one listed along my route!
Thanks in advance.
Laurent.
Hi there, I’m planning a cross-Canada bike trip, and I’ve got a question that might seem silly, but could someone tell me how to pack a bike (in a box, with a fragile sticker... I don’t know) for a flight? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
I’ve gotten used to crossing Europe by bus to return by bike.
It was really convenient to take the bike without having to disassemble it.
But FlixBus no longer accepts bikes...
What alternatives do you know about?
Thanks.
Hi there,
I’m planning to ride the Dutch section of the EuroVelo 19, from Maastricht to Rotterdam.
Since it’s too complicated to bring my bike on the train, I’m looking to rent one locally.
I’d love any tips or bike rental shop recommendations—I’m struggling to find options even in Rotterdam.
The plan is to rent in Rotterdam, take the train to Maastricht with the bike, then cycle back to Rotterdam.
Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions!
Nath
Coming soon:
https://www.Biclou.com/parcours/durance/
Starting from Faverges: 900 km over 9 days

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Hi there,
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance






