Je voudrais partir au Japon au mois d'octobre pendant 3 semaines.
J'ai acheté un guide et je suis en train de regarder un éventuel parcours. Je n'ai pas encore pris mon billet, j’attends de valider le parcours mais le prix du billet est aux alentours de 750euros (avec escale).
Je me pose donc la question, ou aller pendant cette période (octobre) et surtout, pour un 1er séjour, que faire sachant que je veux bien un peu de ville mais je suis surtout intéressée par le côté traditionnel et la nature.
je vais donc avoir 20 jours sur place.
- Tokyo (4j)
- Kyoto (5j)
- Hiroshima ou Nagasaki : vu les avis, je me pose la question sur l’intérêt de Nagasaki...
- ?
- Retour Tokyo (2j) à priori pour repartir, sauf si je peux partir du sud
Si vous trouvez un billet d'avion open-jaw (arrivée Osaka, retour Tokyo par exemple) à un prix intéressant, achetez. Vous bâtirez votre itinéraire ensuite.
En arrivant à Osaka, vous pourriez faire un circuit "logique"
- de Osaka, directement le même jour à Hiroshima/Miyajima (1 nuit), puis ferry vers Matsuyama (1 nuit) et l'île de Shikoku (2-3 nuits, Takamatsu et environs), puis Kyoto pour 5-6 nuits, y compris des excursions à la journée vers Nara et les environs campagnards. Ensuite, remontée sur Tokyo avec éventuellement en route 1-2 nuits dans les montagnes du côté de Takayama ou la vallée de la Kiso, et Tokyo pour la fin de séjour (avec éventuellement Nikko 1 jour).
Vous pourriez faire ça avec un JRrailpass de 14 jours. Ca vous donnerait un bon mix de ville et de campagne, de tradition et de modernité.
Ceci étant, Tokyo regorge de tradition (où croyez-vous que se trouve l'essentiel du public pour les arts et artisanats traditionnels, au Japon ? ;-) et même de nature, quoique de façon un peu surprenante parfois (entre les serpents s'aventurant sur la chaussée le long du zoo d'Ueno et les corbeaux qui font des nids géants dans les arbres au moyen de cintres métalliques ... )
Si ta question est sur l'interet des villes meme, Nagasaki en tant que ville est a mon avis plus interessante que Hiroshima. Autour de Hiroshima tu as Miyajima, certes, mais la ville de Hiroshima en elle meme est une "grosse ville moyenne plate" japonaise. Nagasaki est construite dans une vallee un peu encaissee, avec des configurations qui font penser un peu a San Francisco, ca fait "petite ville", plus personnelle. L'histoire de Nagasaki est (bien) plus riche que celle d'Hiroshima (avis perso). Il y a d'autres choses a voir que le musee de la bombe. La geographie un peu encaissee de Nagasaki fait qu'il y a des endroits ou la bombe n'a pas tout rase. Si tu veux donner dans l'original, tu peux aller a Gunkanjima depuis Nagasaki.
Par contre, Nagasaki est plus eloigne des circuits traditionnels touristiques....
Merci pour vos réponses qui me donne largement de quoi me décider.
CalamityGin, ton circuit semble super même si je n'y connais rien. je vais regarder en détail les lieux que tu m'indiques et je vais largement m'en inspirer pour mon parcours 🙂. Il faut effectivement que je regarde les vols multi-destination pour voir si çà colle niveau tarif.
Tensaibuta, pour Nagasaki, disons que si ça complique le parcours, je me dis qu'il faudrait que ça vaille vraiment le coup pour y consacrer : le temps d'y aller et d'y rester au moins 2 j + temps de remontée (4j en tout j'imagine)... mais je suis très tentée
je vais commencer par fouiller le web pour trouver un billet d'avion en multi au juste prix ...
Si tu veux donner dans l'original, tu peux aller a Gunkanjima depuis Nagasaki.
Je voulais y aller en 2012, mais j'ai finalement renoncé à Kyushu. Cette année, je n'y suis pas allé non plus, mais j'irai bien voir Hashima un jour.
J'espère que son apparition dans Skyfall n'a rien changé.
Bonjour,
Voilà, j'ai fais mon parcours mais comme on est trois, j'ai du composer et changer pas mal de choses en fonction des envies des autres.
Par exemple, séjour obligatoire dans les iles du sud ... et oui. Donc, bon séjour pas exactement traditionnel mais j'y retournerai sauf catastrophe sur le 1er séjour (j'en doute fort)
Voici le parcours :
J0 : Vol Paris > Tokyo
J1 : Tokyo
J2 : Tokyo
J3 : Tokyo
J4 : Tokyo
J5 : Tokyo
J6 : Tokyo
J7 : Tokyo > Mont Fuji (si rando possible sinon, on ira a Hakone)
J8 : Mont Fuji (si rando possible sinon, on ira a Hakone)
J9 : Mont-Fuji (ou hakone) > Osaka, Vol pour Ishigaki (vol aller/retour = 185 euros)
J10 : Ishigaki (+ iles autours)
J11 : Ishigaki (+ iles autours)
J12 : Ishigaki (+ iles autours)
J13 : Ishigaki (+ iles autours)
J14 : Ishigaki (+ iles autours)
J15 : Vol Ishigaki > Osaka > Kyoto
J16 : Kyoto
J17 : Kyoto
J18 : Kyoto
J19 : Kyoto
J20 : Kyoto
J21 : Kyoto > Osaka > retour France
Voilà, merci d'avance pour vos avis sachant que le séjour est pour Octobre prochain.
Dans ce cas, peu de commentaires, tu as du temps pour profiter de Tokyo et Kyoto, tres bien.
Bon, sur ton escapade au mont Fuji... En octobre, impossible de le grimper, tu devras te contenter de l'observer. Le trajet Hakone-Osaka implique de passer par Tokyo. Hakone c'est assez particulier. Si tu y vas pour la vue du Fuji, elle n'est pas terrible.
J'ai deja du suggerer ca par le passe, mais comme comme tu as 3 jours pour rejoindre Osaka, tu peux faire :
-J1 Tokyo-Shuzenji, nuit dans un Ryokan a Shuzenji et profiter des onsens a Shuzenji, a mon avis bien plus tranquilles qu'a Hakone. Non, pas de vue du Fuji depuis Shuzenji, et c'est ca qui fait le cote tranquille.
-J2 Autour de Shuzenji, ballades dans la peninsule d'Izu (en fait, Shuzenji est 20 km de Hakone).
-J3 Shuzenji - Osaka, en prenant un bus jusqu'a Toi, puis en prenant un ferry de Toi a Shizuoka, http://www.dream-ferry.co.jp/suruga/ . si a ce moment la tu ne vois pas le mont Fuji, c'est qu'il n'y a aucune chance que tu le vois depuis aucun endroit, le ferry passe dans la baie de Suruga depuis l'endroit le plus degage possible pour le voir. Tu peux faire ca la veille si tu veux y aller tranquille sur le trajet. Depuis Shizuoka, tu reprends le Shinkansen pour aller a Osaka.
J3 Shuzenji - Osaka, en prenant un bus jusqu'a Toi, puis en prenant un ferry de Toi a Shizuoka, http://www.dream-ferry.co.jp/suruga/ . si a ce moment la tu ne vois pas le mont Fuji, c'est qu'il n'y a aucune chance que tu le vois depuis aucun endroit, le ferry passe dans la baie de Suruga depuis l'endroit le plus degage possible pour le voir. Tu peux faire ca la veille si tu veux y aller tranquille sur le trajet. Depuis Shizuoka, tu reprends le Shinkansen pour aller a Osaka.
Merci, effectivement, je m'y attendais un peu pour le mont-fuji ...
Ton parcours alternatif m’intéresse beaucoup. Par contre, je n'arrive pas à trouver d'infos sur les horaires de Bus entre Shuzenji et Toi. Rien dans mon guide lonely planet que j'ai acheté "L'essentiel du Japon", Shuzenji n'y est même pas :(.
Pour le ferry, même avec la traduction google, certaines infos restent en japonais du coup je ne comprend rien :(.
Tu peux m'aider ? je voudrais voir un peu comment récupérer ce bus de Shuzenji pour aller à Toi, puis prendre le ferry pour Shizuoka. Après, pour le shinkansen, il y a des infos sur le net.
Pour le shinkansen shizuoka > osaka, sur quel site me conseilles tu de réserver (ou cela se fait sur place ?).
J3 Shuzenji - Osaka, en prenant un bus jusqu'a Toi, puis en prenant un ferry de Toi a Shizuoka, http://www.dream-ferry.co.jp/suruga/ . si a ce moment la tu ne vois pas le mont Fuji, c'est qu'il n'y a aucune chance que tu le vois depuis aucun endroit, le ferry passe dans la baie de Suruga depuis l'endroit le plus degage possible pour le voir. Tu peux faire ca la veille si tu veux y aller tranquille sur le trajet. Depuis Shizuoka, tu reprends le Shinkansen pour aller a Osaka.
Merci, effectivement, je m'y attendais un peu pour le mont-fuji ...
Ton parcours alternatif m’intéresse beaucoup. Par contre, je n'arrive pas à trouver d'infos sur les horaires de Bus entre Shuzenji et Toi. Rien dans mon guide lonely planet que j'ai acheté "L'essentiel du Japon", Shuzenji n'y est même pas :(.
Pour le ferry, même avec la traduction google, certaines infos restent en japonais du coup je ne comprend rien :(.
Tu peux m'aider ? je voudrais voir un peu comment récupérer ce bus de Shuzenji pour aller à Toi, puis prendre le ferry pour Shizuoka. Après, pour le shinkansen, il y a des infos sur le net.
Pour le shinkansen shizuoka > osaka, sur quel site me conseilles tu de réserver (ou cela se fait sur place ?).
Les heures suivies d'un triangle (8h35 11h20 16h25) sont les connexions pour le ferry.
C'est la ligne direction Dogashima/Matsuzaki
L'arret de bus est juste la gare de Shuzenji, et la ligne est operee par Tokai Bus, http://www.tokaibus.jp/. La probabilite que le bus soit plein est nulle, a peu de choses prets. Tu peux debarquer le jour meme et demander un billet.
Note qu'a Shuzenji, le coin a onsens / ryokans n'est pas juste a cote de la gare mais a Shuzenji-Onsen ;, c'est tres proche (2km), mais a pied bof. De toutes facons, il y a des tonnes de bus et navettes faisant le trajet gare-Shuzenji onsen. Si tu regardes googlemaps, la gare est a l'est du petit echangeur autoroutier, et shuzenji-onsen a l'ouest. Tu as de sublimes ryokans a Shuzenji onsen, je pese mes mots (classes proprietes culturelles importantes, etc.)
Etant donne que tu n'auras pas de voiture, ce n'est pas necessaire de reserver le ferry (tu pourras monter dedans le jour meme). Horaires ici : http://www.dream-ferry.co.jp/suruga/schedule.php
Pour Shizuoka-Osaka, pas besoin de reserver en avance.
Je vois que tu es interessé par la nature, comme moi et je te conseille d'aller sur l'île Yakushima complètement au sud du Japon à quelques heures de Kagoshima. Le train rapide a été prolongé récemment jusqu'à cette ville et ça peut te prendre une journée pour te rendre à partir de Tokyo, la partie la plus difficile étant de s'orienter en ville pour trouver le port après être descendu du train.
Dans la ville de Miyanoura il y a une auberge de jeunesse habituée à la visite d'étrangers avec les infos traduites en anglais. Avec un Japan rail pass tu cases dans une semaine la visite de cette île et Hiroshima/Miyajima (le prix du pass sera bien amorti), une fois les grandes distances effectuées tu peux rester dans le coin Kyoto Tokyo.
Il y a peu de ressources en Français sur Yakushima il faut parcourir le web en anglais bien souvent. C'est une destination de rêve pour beaucoup de Japonais qui ont peu de vacances et un incontournable selon moi si on recherche un paysage unique.
J'y retourne dans deux semaines ça c'est les photos de mon premier voyage au printemps (très déconseillable):
http://www.pbase.com/pierreyves/yakushima_island_trek_japan
Mille merci pour les infos Tensaibuta c'est super. Heureusement qu'il y a google traduction ;-).
Du coup j'ai bouclé mon parcours et j'ai pris mon billet d'avion aujourd'hui. Hourra à moi le Japon, je pars dans 1 mois 🙂.
Patopersil, Yakushima semble effectivement très attractive mais sur 3 semaines, ça ne va pas être possible à moins de courir ou enlever des jours à Tokyo/Kyoto. Je pense que l'on va rester sur l'itinéraire que je cite plus haut sachant que nous sommes 3 et que Ishigaki est non négociable par mes deux acolytes.
Peut être pour mon 2eme séjour (si le Japon ne m'a pas ruiné entre temps, les logements sont assez chère ...).
Je suis en train de vérifier les tarifs sur hyperdia pour savoir si je prend le JR pass.
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Mais je ne comprend pas bien. Comment fait on pour savoir si le trajet est compris dans le JR pass ? merci pour votre aide
c'est aussi l'idée que j'avais mais je voulais m'en assurer.
Merci.
Bon j'ai encore une petite question, le quartier de Gion à Kyoto, est ce bien placé pour dormir ? sur le plan, je ne me rend pas bien compte ...
je voudrais loger dans un quartier centrale qui me permettra de me déplacer facilement.
Merci d'avance pour votre avis.
Personnellement, ce que je préfère, c'est le quartier de la gare. On a tous les bus pour aller à l'est comme à l'ouest. En plus, cette gare est exceptionnelle, de par sa taille et le nombre de magasins qu'elle renferme. Il y a aussi l'OdT, avec sa wifi gratuite, un must. Et on peut aller à pied jusqu'à Gion, par exemple 😇
Alors, oui, Gion, c'est sympa comme quartier, Maruyama, Pontocho et la rivière aux canards sont juste à côté, on peut aller au Pavillon d'argent facilement ou même... à la gare !
Mais dès que l'on souhaite aller à l'ouest, c'est long. Et puis le soir, une fois les geikos parties, ce n'est pas très vivant.
Bon j'ai encore une petite question, le quartier de Gion à Kyoto, est ce bien placé pour dormir ? sur le plan, je ne me rend pas bien compte ...
je voudrais loger dans un quartier centrale qui me permettra de me déplacer facilement.
Merci d'avance pour votre avis.
Higashiyama où se trouve Gion est superbe le jour mais un peu mort le soir.
L'endroit ou je préfère loger à Kyoto est Kawaramachi, sur Shijo-dori.
On est à deux pas de Pontocho, ruelle historique très agréable en soirée par laquelle on peut aller à Gion en une agréable balade de 20 minutes à pieds.
On peut aussi y aller en longeant Kamogawa.
Le quartier est animé le soir avec beacoup de petits restaurants et des bars (il y en a même des français...)
De l'autre côté de Shijo-dori, les rues couvertes de Teramachi et le marché de la rue Nishiki-dori regorgent de petits magasins très sympa à visiter. On peut facilement aller jusqu'à Nijo-jô et le palais impérial.
Pour aller à Arashiyama, il suffit de prendre le métro jusqu'à Omiya pour prendre le dernier tramway de la ville: Keifuku Arashiyama line à Shinjoomiya (même endroit). Pour aurez peut-être la chance de monter dans une des antiques rames encore en service...
Si vous voulez voir la carte de mes endroits favoris de Kyoto
Mes 25 ans de séjours au japon! http://www.soleilrouge.org/
Okinawa et Miyakojima: https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6477376;idl3=9084144203&idl=3731943&idl2=8709057
Sakura: Balade de printemps: https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6988760;idl3=9084144203&idl=3731943&idl2=8709057
Merci beaucoup pour vos messages. Ouf, j'ai failli réserver à Gion... J'ai regardé un peu dans tous les quartiers que vous indiquez et j'ai trouvé le Backpackers Hostel K's House Kyoto qui n'est pas trop chère, dans le quartier de la gare.
Comme je fais 6 nuits à Kyoto, j'aimerais bien faire 4 nuits dans le backpakers et après me faire plaisir deux nuits dans un truc plus traditionnel ... je cherche ... n'hésitez oas si vous avez une excellente adresse 😉
Sinon, j'ai du mal à trouver un appartement à louer pour la semaine à Shibuya (tokyo), vous n'auriez pas un site à me recommander ? (qui soit traduisible car j'en ai trouvé un en japonais, dur dur car les menus se sont des images donc google ne les traduit pas).
Bonjour, savez-vous si on peut prendre un avion entre kagoshima et ishigaki? Vers la fin octobre et quelle est la compagnie? Merci beaucoup .
Bonjour,
Il n'y a pas de vol direct KOJ -ISG; correspondance incontournable à Naha (OKA).
Pour ce qui est des compagnies : ANA, Skymark et Peach. Skymark et Peach étant des low cost, je doute qu'elles assurent les correspondances.
Nico, j'ai pris la compagnie low cost peach pour me rendre dans les iles du sud... depuis Osaka, j'ai payé 110 euros pour un aller/retour Osaka > Okinawa. ( je vais finalement a tokashiki, ishigaki a été ravagé par un typhon et la plongée est assez moyenne parait t-'il en ce moment).
Peach et AirAsia.com m'ont été conseillé par un ami qui a séjourné à okinawa cet été, il était satisfait. (prix 70% - chère que les Cie régulière)
Le meilleur prix pour Isahgaki est obtenu en volant sur ANA en prenant un Japan Air Pass.
Pour ceux qui ne connaissent pas le principe, il s'agit de réserver le vol intérieur de France avant de partir, après avoir pris le billet pour le Japon avec une compagnie faisant partie du groupement "Star Alliance". (Lufthansa pour l'Europe).
Le vol intérieur est effectué sur les lignes régulières ANA au prix imbattable de 10 000 yens par billet. (75 euros!)
Cela fait trois ans que je voyage par ce biais au Japon (Vers Hokkaido, Okinawa et Miyakojima).
L'avantage de ANA sur les compagnies low cost est surtout la quantité et le poids des bagages autorisés (2 X 23 Kgs à l'aller et 2 X 20 Kgs au retour). Sans compter le service ANA...
Mes 25 ans de séjours au japon! http://www.soleilrouge.org/
Okinawa et Miyakojima: https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6477376;idl3=9084144203&idl=3731943&idl2=8709057
Sakura: Balade de printemps: https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6988760;idl3=9084144203&idl=3731943&idl2=8709057
Bonsoir Maître.
Le Japan air pass permet de prendre jusqu'à 5 billets intérieurs au même prix.
La seule restriction concerne certaines périodes de forte affluence comme la golden week et du début août jusqu'à fin de Obon.
Le nombre de places disponibles par vol est également limité. (une douzaine au maximum.)
Pour être certain d'avoir des places sur les vols choisis, on n'hésite pas à passer une nuit presque blanche pour être connectés sur le site de ANA à l'ouverture des réservations sur internet (deux mois avant la date du vol).
Mes 25 ans de séjours au japon! http://www.soleilrouge.org/
Okinawa et Miyakojima: https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6477376;idl3=9084144203&idl=3731943&idl2=8709057
Sakura: Balade de printemps: https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6988760;idl3=9084144203&idl=3731943&idl2=8709057
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Hi,
July 2026: I’m writing to you from Dali.
First, I got scammed on Booking—AI-retouched photos. No tourists at this hotel (Yishanju Designer Hotel), and the reality was horrible: dirty, with a disgusting breakfast. It’s better to use Trip.com here.
Next, the old town was an infernal cacophony, packed with tourists who shoved past without a care. Some vendors harassed you to buy things. All the stalls sold the same cheap plastic junk or other uninteresting stuff. The beautiful scenery was ruined by vendors lining 100% of the alleys. Impossible to walk, crushing heat, nothing good to eat except fresh fruit. Horrible experience.
Day 2: We went to Cangshan Mountain by cable car—the ride was short and nothing spectacular. We were at 2,600 m.
My plan was to see Erhai Lake. Unfortunately, I followed the advice of an AI chatbot: take the boat at Langkan Dock. The Didi dropped us off in the nearest area, which was full of charming little alleys but packed with Chinese tourists. The three-wheeled yellow cabs zoomed through the narrow streets, forcing you to hug the walls, on top of the scooters and other pedestrians to deal with. Crossing the neighborhood was hellish and suffocating. Once out, we hit the "corniche," which was also packed with Chinese tourists. The lake’s edge was all pebbles, and everyone was standing around taking photos. I was with my 5-year-old son. I would’ve liked to sit down and let him play with stones by the water, but it was clear we didn’t belong. They were even shoving each other for a shot! There were no boats in sight. In short, we’d had enough, and there was nothing interesting there either.
On the way back, we had to cross that maze again under the scorching sun. My son was braver than me—I even had a little dizzy spell from all the chaos. Add to that Dali’s altitude (2,200 m), so altitude insomnia, fatigue, and vulnerability during the day...
The restaurants weren’t inviting—the staff served sticky rice in a little bucket. The dishes were wrapped, and you had to figure it out yourself. After that, they ignored you completely, even if you were the only tourist.
On the 3rd day, it was time to leave for Shaxi. I hope to see beautiful villages. But honestly, I’m exhausted by this atmosphere where everything is complicated, communication is never smooth, noise is everywhere, and the behavior of some Chinese people is abusive...
Silver lining: not a drop of rain in 4 days and blue skies.
I couldn’t visit the villages in southern Yunnan because of rain and storms there...
But I was expecting to see a few more tourists.
Here are some tips from our 6-week trip (summer 2026) to China, Vietnam, and Cambodia. We traveled as a family of four with two kids aged 15 and 12.
I hope these notes help other travelers!
CHINA
General
You’ll need to download and set up a few apps:
- Alipay and WeChat for payments (I didn’t withdraw a single bill the entire trip)
- Didi for taxis
- Amap = Chinese Maps (works great, especially for subways)
- A translation app (we used Papago, but it sometimes gave weird results)
- Google Lens for translating menus or signs—super handy.
- HelloRide for bikes
- Gemini and ChatGPT for everything: understanding daily life, enhancing visits, checking the weather, finding things.
- HomeExchange if you want to lower travel costs (few listings in Asia except in big cities, often expats)
- Trip.com is very useful, even essential, for trains, domestic flights, and hotels. Like Booking.com, the more you book with them, the more perks you get. So I’d even suggest checking flight tickets on this site, even if it’s a bit pricier. However, buying train tickets is complicated because (1) they only open 15 days in advance, and (2) they sell out fast. Trip.com just promises to buy them as soon as they’re available but doesn’t always succeed. It’s stressful and might force you to change your plans, especially if you’re aiming for a sleeper car and there are no seats left. Watch out for station names—many cities have multiple stations, including a high-speed rail one outside the city.
For internet, we got the Asia plan from Holafly. It worked but seemed much slower than Chinese internet. I regretted not buying a Chinese SIM card because without internet in China, everything is VERY complicated (money, transport, etc.).
For the firewall, we used ExpressVPN, but it wasn’t always reliable. A bit disappointing. Ask ChatGPT for tips with screenshots to improve the settings.
Since we only had one SIM card with internet, we couldn’t rent shared bikes. If I were to do it again, I’d get a SIM for each person, even the kids, because distances in cities are huge. We walked *a lot*. Same goes for buses—it’s tricky with just one internet connection. Better to have a phone per person with internet.
Book your visits as far in advance as possible—they often sell out.
Watch out for power banks: if they don’t explicitly say "3C," they’ll confiscate it. Even if there’s a little airplane logo.
Shanghai
In the evening, the streets leading to the Bund from the metro were so crowded that police were out in force blocking roads. Arrive early. We went around the north side.
Suzhou
Be careful—there are two stations (common in China), and the high-speed rail one is 45–50 minutes from the old town.
The Humble Administrator’s Garden was *packed*—we don’t recommend it. It turned into a marathon day from Shanghai (almost 4 hours from our hotel to the garden).
Beijing
Forbidden City: Don’t go—I know it’s a shame, but it’s too crowded. I couldn’t buy tickets on the official site because of the kids’ passports. We ended up with a guided tour, the only way to get in (tickets sell out fast). The visit was disappointing—bad guide *and* massive crowds. You’ll queue a lot to enter and see certain areas. You’ll be checked often, so pack your bags carefully.
Great Wall at Mutianyu: Crowded. Two hours by bus, and even though we arrived early, people were already leaving! I really think the best option is to leave your big bags in Beijing and stay overnight near the Wall. That way, you’ll have it to yourself a bit more. For transport: get off at Tiananmen Square metro and look for buses with official guides in bright yellow-green vests. No need to buy tickets online—they made me cancel mine to rebook on the spot. Buses leave when full. Note: the cable car and chairlift are separate—if you want to go up one side and down the other, you’ll need different tickets. The endless queue for the toboggan ride put us off.
Quick tip: Incredible swimming spot in Beijing—on the north shore of Houhai Lake, you can swim by crossing the barrier. We did it twice with about ten other people. Bring a swimsuit!
Shapotou Desert
Amazing, but it gets *very* hot in the afternoon. We had a tent (not an air-conditioned bungalow), which was unbearable during the day. We hung out in the restaurant.
The paid activities are fun, except the camels—they look sad. The real highlight is the evening and sunset. The only downside: you can’t explore the desert alone or far—they don’t rent 4x4s, for example.
We stayed at "The Desert Camping Hotel of the Proprietress of Shapotou." They were lovely.
Zhongwei
Gaomiao Temple and its underground: Fun and short—you’ll see quirky Buddhist hell paintings.
Xi’an
Terracotta Army: We took a Didi because for four people, a car was almost the same price as four shuttle tickets. It was packed—chaotic to see properly.
We visited the halls in order: 3, 2, then 1—a good choice.
Hua Shan Mountains: Left before sunrise to arrive when the ticket office opened (7 AM, I think). We were shocked to see so many people already coming down.
45 minutes by bus to the west cable car, then 15 minutes up.
We did the west, south, east, central, then north peaks (in that order) before taking the other cable car down (you can buy the ticket at the top). A beautiful day.
In the city, check out...
Chengdu
Panda Research Center: Like Hua Shan, plan to arrive when the ticket office opens. Already *tons* of people, and it moves fast to see the big pandas before their nap. Have them drop you at the west entrance (not south), or you’ll have to walk uphill.
Leshan Giant Buddha: Interesting. The trip is a bit long (metro, then train, then city bus, then shuttle on-site). We didn’t take the boat option but walked. In the end, you only spend a few minutes at the Buddha’s feet, but it’s a nice day out.
Hotel tip: Panda Enjoy Home Hotel Apartments (Chengdu East Railway Station Dongda Road Branch). The view is insane, and the neighborhood is super convenient and nice. 646 CNY for 2 nights.
Swimming: The municipal pool is an interesting experience, but don’t expect to swim—no one does. Everyone just splashes around where they can stand. The hours are a bit odd, with a break in the late afternoon.
Kunming
The bike path along Dian Lake is pretty and often well-protected from cars. But like everywhere in China, it’s *packed*. Not much to say about visits—the flower market is a wholesale market, not very interesting. The ethnic minorities museum closed right in front of us.
All the big malls are good for shopping.
Dali
We thought we could bike around the lake in two days. Wrong on two counts: First, the lake’s edge is blocked to traffic and reserved for bikes (or tourist mini-buses). So you’re stuck on the main road, which never gives you a view of the lake, with all the trucks and cars. Doing 120 km like that wouldn’t make sense, in our opinion. The rice fields around are nice but not as impressive as elsewhere, so Dali isn’t worth it for that.
The old town, all restored, is pretty but *packed*—thousands of people, especially in the evening.
Hekou (Vietnam border)
Comfortable train from Kunming. In the parking lot, a bus (not well-marked, but Didi is an option) takes you to the border in 15–20 minutes. Short wait at both border posts. Fun to see the two lampposts near the border line: the Chinese one is new, modern, with a surveillance camera (of course), while the Vietnamese one is old and a bit rusty.
VIETNAM
General:
- You’ll need the Grab app for taxis
- Very disappointed with 12Go—it doesn’t show all buses, never connects you with the company, and refuses refunds. Try booking directly with companies like FUTA Bus instead.
- Credit cards are often accepted (supermarkets and modern stores), otherwise, you’ll need cash
Lao Cai
2 km between the border and the train station.
The sleeper bus to Hanoi with Sao Viet is well-organized—it works.
Hanoi
Ho Chi Minh Mausoleum closes early (10:30 AM, I think).
Women’s Museum: Very good, not too long
Temple of Literature: Beautiful, fairly quick
This is where you should buy souvenirs, clothes, and knockoffs—the prices are reasonable, and the sellers are nicer than elsewhere. We recommend Cho Dong Xuan.
Tu Long Bay
We did 2 days, 1 night (so really 24 hours on the boat) with Parfum d’Automne (French-speaking agency), which put us on a Cycad Cruise boat. Cost: 300 € per person—expensive, but it was amazing, super luxurious, and the buffet meals were delicious. We don’t regret the splurge. The only downside: no swimming in the bay (but there’s a pool on the boat). To swim, you’d need a 3-day, 2-night trip to an area not protected by the maritime park.
Phong Nha
If you didn’t do the northern mountains due to time or weather (like us), Phong Nha is a great stop for a motorbike ride. It’s beautiful, especially the mountains west of the city toward the caves.
There are two (small) swimming spots at the Botanic Garden—a pleasant 45-minute walk without stops.
Hotel tip: Sunbeam Village (very friendly, pool, breakfast by the river, motorbike rentals)
Da Nang
Hotel tip: Meridians by Hsuite—you’ll have the beach almost to yourself. You’ll still need to walk 15–20 minutes to the hyper-touristy area if you want to rent surfboards (150–200k VND per hour).
The beach is beautiful, and the water is 30°C—great for a break on a long trip, especially since all transport goes through Da Nang.
Hoi An
45 minutes from Da Nang, so it’s easy to visit in a day, especially since the city isn’t that big and it’s *very* hot.
Cooking class: MS Hanh cooking class—great (the market tour is a bit useless). We don’t recommend the "basket boat" tour—it’s a bit sad on a big brown pond with elderly guides.
Ho Chi Minh City
Ben Thanh Market is a nightmare: starting prices are exorbitant, and the vendors are aggressive. Don’t go.
The War Remnants Museum can be really tough for kids.
Can Tho
Avoid this city. We made the mistake of going to see the floating market—don’t.
Chau Doc
No Grab in the city, but regular taxis.
One day is enough if you go early to the forest and the mountain in the late afternoon.
250k VND per person for the forest and its canals (45 minutes by motorbike)
The sunset at Victoria Nui Sam can be magnificent if the clouds cooperate.
Cheap and good restaurant: Quan Nem Nuong Sau Hiep
Hotel tip: Homestay Khoa (2,250,000 VND for 3 nights)—adorable hostess, full of tips, clean rooms.
The speedboat to Cambodia is more comfortable than a bus. Book with Hangchau a few days in advance—payment in cash on the day (1,640,000 đ).
CAMBODIA
General:
- Issues with the "Bakong Tourists" app—we had to go to a big bank to load money onto it. We barely used it afterward.
Phnom Penh
For us, a day and a half is enough if you want to spend more time elsewhere.
Markets close early (around 6 PM) and are less interesting than in Hanoi, for example.
The Royal Palace has a break from 11 AM to 2 PM, but there aren’t many people in the afternoon.
Siem Reap
Trip with Capitol company—the bus is basic but cheap. Departs at 10:15 AM, 7-hour ride.
Angkor entrance fee: 62 USD per person for a 3-day pass. Tickets are picked up at Angkor Enterprise.
Renting two 125cc motorbikes: 10 USD each, plus 7 USD for gas.
By bike, it took me 25 minutes to reach Angkor Wat’s pools. A basic city bike rental was 1 USD per hour.
Short circuit by motorbike (in reverse): 7 hours with stops everywhere.
Grand tour by tuk-tuk: Only 5 temples, 4.5 hours.
If you want to see lots of monkeys, they’re grouped west of Bayon.
For the temples, we asked Gemini (AI) at each stop to point out details that might interest kids (who can get bored with the repetition). It gave fun facts and things to look for—great for the little ones.
Hotel tip: The Five Senses, run by a Frenchman, Bruno, who knows Cambodia inside out and organizes tours.
Restaurant tip: Wild (only spring rolls, but *so* many varieties—delicious and cheap)
Watch out: 1 hour to the airport, 50 km from the city.
Show tip: The Phare Circus
Hi everyone,
To simplify logistics, I'm considering renting a car for 5/6 days in the Japanese Alps before heading to Kyoto solo.
Is driving difficult or even risky in this region?
Thanks for your feedback!
Tara
We’re arriving as a group of three in Tokyo on Saturday, October 17th, then heading straight to Kyoto by direct train.
On Sunday and Monday, we’ll explore Kyoto, and in the evening, we’ll take a train to Osaka to spend the night.
On Tuesday, we’ll pick up a rental car at Itami Airport for a 6-day/5-night road trip around Shikoku:
- 2 nights in the Iya Valley
- Thursday morning, we’ll head to Matsuyama for 2 nights.
- Saturday, we’ll visit Mima (town, a few temples + overnight stay) and return on Sunday to drop off the car in Osaka.
We’ll leave very early on Monday the 26th by plane for Aomori in northern Honshu, where we’ll pick up another rental car at the airport for a 5-day/4-night trip:
- Day 1: Tsugaru Peninsula (Takayam Inari, Cape Tappi, Kanita); overnight in Kanita
- Day 2: Ferry transfer to the Mutsu Peninsula (cliffs, Lake Usori); overnight in Shimofuro
- Day 3: Head to the Hakkoda Mountains and onsens galore; overnight TBD
- Day 4: Return the car in Aomori by noon and explore the city before taking the train to Tokyo in the evening
We’ll spend Friday night in Tokyo, wander around on Saturday, and head home on Sunday.
Thoughts on the road feasibility of this trip? We’ll be there right in the middle of Koyo season, so it’ll be busy...
I know it’s a lot of driving, but there are two of us who can take turns. We’re not afraid of driving, even in the mountains and on the left side! Just wondering, are we going to be rushing, or is this manageable? AI says it’s all good, but it’s not the one driving...
Any tips for booking accommodations in the Iya Valley? Not many places have email addresses or websites (I know Booking.com exists, but not all listings are on there... and given the season, I think it’s better to book ahead!). Same question applies for northern Honshu.
For the rental car, I’m thinking of going with Alamo since at least it’s in French and straightforward, but are there any direct rental companies with user-friendly websites (Toyota Rentacar, ugh... 🏴☠️)?
Another question: With so many trains, is it even necessary to book them in advance? Can we just go to the ticket counter and grab seats on the spot?
For paying for the rental car, do we need a credit or debit card?
I saw there are several "authentic" villages about 90/100 km from Beijing.
Including: Lingshui, Liuliqu, Sangyu, Miaoying, and Cuandixia.
Has anyone visited any of them? I was thinking of choosing Cuandixia—what do you think?
Thanks in advance.
Hi everyone!
It seems there’s a flea market in Tianjin that’s way more interesting than the one in Beijing. I’ve been searching online but can’t find the right one… The one I’m looking for is called gu wan shi chang (my PC won’t display the Chinese characters…). Does anyone have the address and has anyone been there before? The one in Beijing has lost a lot of its charm over the past 10 years, so I wanted to find another. Thanks!
Hi,
My departure is coming up soon—two months backpacking in Taiwan, so much to discover! I’d love to hear about your travel experiences.
My main interests are meeting people, understanding how things work, hiking, and nature in general. I’ve also done a lot of reading about Taiwan’s complex situation.
I do stone sculpture.
I also want to visit Orchid Island for its history.
Marie
I’m looking for advice from seasoned travelers about a roughly one-month trip to Japan.
From late October to late November 2026.
We often travel in Southeast Asia but have never been to Japan.
Based on what I’ve read, I’d love to hear your thoughts on:
- Is traveling day-to-day, without booking hotels or trains in advance, possible in Japan?
(I’ve read many travel journals and blogs that say everything was booked way in advance… but that’s not how we usually travel.)
- Will the Japan Rail Pass be worth it for us?
(According to an old simulator, I’m looking at around 400 € for trains compared to 570 € for the JRP.)
Here’s our rough itinerary (which may change):
- Arrival Osaka: 3 nights with Nara
- Hiroshima and Miyajima Island: 3 nights
- Kurashiki or Naoshima: 2 nights
- Himeji: 1 night
- Kyoto: 4 nights
- Kanazawa: 2 nights
- Takayama and Shirakawa-go: 3 nights
- Around Mount Fuji: 3 nights
- Tokyo with Nikko: 6 nights (no theme parks)
Departure from Tokyo
I booked my trip from May 5 to 26, 2027. I’m starting to plan my itinerary and look for hotels (I know it’s early!). While I’ve found some in Seoul and Busan, I’m noticing that elsewhere—like Yeosu—most hotels aren’t available (on Booking.com, for example, almost all are unavailable). AI tells me not to worry because hotels in South Korea only open bookings 6 months in advance, so it’s normal to see most of them unavailable on booking sites.
Could you confirm this for me and, of course, reassure me (!)? Thanks so much.
philippe
We’re back from a one-month trip to China and wanted to share our itinerary. Hopefully, this can give future travelers some ideas for exploring this beautiful country.
Beijing → Temple of Heaven / Forbidden City
Jinshanling → Great Wall
Zhangjiajie → Tianmen Mountain and Heaven’s Gate
Wulingyuan → Avatar Mountains / sandstone pillars
Fenghuang → riverside houses
Ping’an → terraced rice fields
Tiantouzhai → village / rice terraces
Yangshuo → Li River / karst mountains
Shanghai → skyline with the Oriental Pearl Tower
Our travel journal is available on our travel journal, written day by day. You’ll find lots of photos and some travel tips there.
I’m starting to look at neighborhoods in Seoul, and I’m leaning toward staying in a hotel in Insa-Dong—I’ve spotted one really close to Unhyeongung.
Is this a good area—nice and convenient for exploring the city?
Otherwise, I’ve also found another hotel in Yongsan-Gu, right near the station of the same name. Is that station useful for getting around Seoul?
Since I’ll be in South Korea for nearly two months, I plan to spend at least a week in Seoul to recover from jet lag (it takes me a while to adjust...). So, I’d love a neighborhood that’s pleasant and a hotel not too far from a subway station.
Hi there,
I’d like to do this cycling route over 2 or 3 days. I’m struggling to figure out and find a (good) bike rental that lets me start in Onomichi and drop off in Imabari. Can anyone help with great tips for rentals and accommodations along the route? How do I get back to Onomichi afterward?
Next year, we’re celebrating 20 years of marriage (and travel 🙂), and we’re looking for something new, pretty legendary, and something the teens will enjoy too.
The family council has settled on Japan for now. And it’d have to be a summer trip—no choice there.
The catch: I keep reading that August isn’t the right season for southern Japan. It’s hot, humid, and there’s a risk of typhoons… Okay, but what does that *actually* mean in practice? Are there any travelers who’ve been there during this time? Is it *that* unbearable?
We’re pretty familiar with Southeast Asia—last year, we dealt with scorching heat in Vietnam and insane humidity, plus a typhoon we experienced from a distance, and visiting Angkor in the blazing sun. Is it worse than that?
I’m back with my detailed itinerary for 20 days in South Korea—it’s my first trip to the country. Our idea is to experience a more rural and cultural Korea. Here’s the rough plan: Seoul for 4 nights at the start and 1 night at the end, Gurye for 4 nights, Suncheon for 4 nights, Namhae for 4 nights, and Gyeongju for 2 nights. The goal is to pick a base and explore the surrounding areas. What do you think of this itinerary? Anything you’d change?
thanks
hi everyone, we're heading out for a 12-day trek in the Japanese Alps. We're bringing freeze-dried meals like we always do. We just found out that importing meat is banned, even freeze-dried. Is that true? We already bought them. They're commercially made freeze-dried meals. Online, it's not specified that they have to be "commercially made" because you can make your own freeze-dried food. And since we've heard they're really strict in Japan, can anyone confirm this for us? thanks
I haven’t found what I’m looking for despite my searches!
For a 15-day trip next spring, I’d like to buy a card (preferably an eSIM, but a physical SIM is fine too) that also lets me make calls in the country (to contact a hotel, a tourist spot, etc.).
You can easily find options just for data, but I haven’t come across any that include calls, texts, or even MMS.
Could you recommend something?
hi there
I’m planning a trip in September—here’s my rough itinerary. What do you think? Is it easy to rent a car to get around between my stops? Thanks so much!
Philippe
StopNightsFull daysSeoul44Gurye (Jirisan)43Suncheon43Namhae43Gyeongju21Seoul1—
We’re planning a 17-day trip to South Korea in October 2026 with my husband and our daughters, who’ll be 9 years old.
I’d love to get your thoughts on our draft itinerary.
First, some key details:
1/ Jeju Island is a must for us. I’ve personally dreamed of going there for years after reading a novel about it.
2/ Our girls are used to road-trip style travel since they were born, so this kind of trip won’t be an issue for them.
3/ We plan to travel by train, except on Jeju where we’ll rent a car (we already have an international driver’s permit).
Itinerary:
Seoul: 1 arrival day at 10 AM + 4 full days
Gyeongju: 2 days
Busan: 3 days
Jeju: 4 days
Seoul: 2 days
Hi there,
My girlfriend (23) and I (24) are heading to Japan for the first time from October 20th to November 6th. Here’s our itinerary:
6 nights in Tokyo
1 night in Hakone (ryokan already booked)
4 nights in Kyoto (hotel already booked)
2 nights in Osaka
4 nights back in Tokyo
I’d like to book hotels for Tokyo (both stays) and Osaka, but I’ve gotten so many different recommendations.
I’ve read that Shinjuku is the place to be for its huge hub, accessibility, and things to do, but I’ve also heard about Shibuya, Asakusa, and Ueno.
I’ve looked at hotels, and first off, I’m surprised by the prices compared to what I’ve seen on forums (I guess inflation’s hit here too… and maybe I’m late to the booking game?). I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed with all the options.
For our first stay in Tokyo, I’d prefer a hotel (not a residence or Airbnb) since we’ll be arriving at night, and it’s our first time in Japan. It’d be great to have a place with a reception, staff who speak at least a little English, and can give us some guidance. For the second stay, we could consider other options if it’s better.
Budget-wise, we can go up to 150–180 € per night, but if we can save some money to spend elsewhere, that’d be amazing!
I’m open to all recommendations, hotel suggestions, or any other tips for Tokyo (first stay), Osaka, and Tokyo (second stay).
Hi there,
I’m getting ready for a classic tourist trip to China in May 2026.
The "Terres Lointaines" itinerary looks good to me, and the price is interesting.
Has anyone traveled with them before? Any feedback?
Is there a better option?
Thanks so much for sharing your experiences on this!
Michel
I just booked my hotel in Seoul—it’ll be near Unhyeongung, on Samil-Daero 30-Gil—and I’m wondering if there’s public transport from the airport to this address (bus or subway)? If not, what’s the taxi fare? I read it’s around 50 or 60 €.
I’m traveling to Japan with a young adult with autism (ASD) from July 28 to August 8, following a pretty classic route: Osaka, Hiroshima, Kyoto, and Tokyo. I’m looking for a schedule of the most spectacular fireworks displays during that time. So far, the dates for the major *hanabi* events aren’t available online yet. If anyone has them, I’d really appreciate it if you could share!
We’ll be doing a self-drive trip using public transport in May 2026.
On Day 6, we’ll arrive in Hakone by train from Tokyo in late morning. We’ll spend the night in Hakone before heading to Kyoto.
The main goal of this stop is clearly the view (no hiking) of Mount Fuji, not so much exploring Hakone, where the sights seem limited.
I’ve read on the forum that the view is great from Gotemba, but it also takes a good hour by bus to get there. And, apart from that view, there’s nothing else to see in Gotemba!
So, I’m not sure what to choose. Any thoughts? Or alternatives to suggest?
Maybe some spots in Hakone or Gotemba for a great view?