Retour de Jogjakarta + Bromo: infos fraiches à disposition
by Olim07
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Je rentre d'un nouveau voyage en Indonésie : j'ai visité pour la première fois Jogja et ses environs, et je suis retourné admirer le merveilleux paysage offert par le massif du Bromo-Tengger-Semeru.
J'ai effectué chaque étape en indépendant, et je renseignerai avec plaisir ceux qui sont tentés par ce coin de Java.
Olivier
Bonjour,
Je compte justement faire ijen et bromo mais depuis Bali et c est pas du tout évident , aucune agence ne le propose ou alors genre 400dollars. Si tu as des bons plans de transport, je suis preneur
Merci
Je compte justement faire ijen et bromo mais depuis Bali et c est pas du tout évident , aucune agence ne le propose ou alors genre 400dollars. Si tu as des bons plans de transport, je suis preneur
Merci
http://www.flickr.com/photos/99994962@N04/sets/ ( ma galerie)
Salut Alan,
si tu ne passes pas par une agence depuis Bali, le mieux serait de louer ta propre voiture.
Il est très facile de la passer sur le ferry jusqu'à Banyuwangi. De là, la route monte et tourne, mais elle est neuve. Tu peux alors te poser à l'Arabica Homestay par exemple (Sempol).
Tu continues ensuite jusqu'au Bromo, via Bondowoso et Probolinggo.
Bien sûr, ça fait faire pas mal de route, mais il n'y a pas énormément de trafic sur cette partie de Java, et tu pourras profiter de ton séjour en toute liberté (en évitant notamment les désagréments du mini-van à Probolinggo).
Olivier
Olivier
Olivier
Merci pour la réaction
Non je ne vais pas louer de voiture surtout que je pars de Bali et finit a yoggy...
Pas facile de faire ce tour de Bali en tout cas
Non je ne vais pas louer de voiture surtout que je pars de Bali et finit a yoggy...
Pas facile de faire ce tour de Bali en tout cas
http://www.flickr.com/photos/99994962@N04/sets/ ( ma galerie)
Sinon, j'ai un ami guide sur Java-est qui pourra t'organiser le tour à partir de Banyuwangi (Ijen/Bromo/Jogja).
Il te faudra alors juste prendre le ferry depuis Bali...
Si tu veux ses coordonnées, je peux te les envoyer en MP.
Olivier
Pourquoi pas mais tout dépend du prix....
Je compte pour finir aller a la station de bus de denpesar et puis aller..bonne question pour faire le ijen.bromo et finir a yoggy. P.e aller ou les tours se prennent, histoire de ne pas m ennuyer avec les trajets...
Je compte pour finir aller a la station de bus de denpesar et puis aller..bonne question pour faire le ijen.bromo et finir a yoggy. P.e aller ou les tours se prennent, histoire de ne pas m ennuyer avec les trajets...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/99994962@N04/sets/ ( ma galerie)
Je rentre d'un nouveau voyage en Indonésie : j'ai visité pour la première fois Jogja et ses environs, et je suis retourné admirer le merveilleux paysage offert par le massif du Bromo-Tengger-Semeru.
J'ai effectué chaque étape en indépendant, et je renseignerai avec plaisir ceux qui sont tentés par ce coin de Java.
Voici notre circuit projeté (le début, nous partons pour 40 jours . ) Jour 1 Arrivée à JAKARTA à 17h55 en soirée. Nuit à JAKARTA (Réservé)
Jour 2 Visites diverses, détente, prise billet de train pour YOGYJAKARTA Nuit à JAKARTA (Réservé)
Jour 3 Trajet train JAKARTA – YOGYJAKARTA de jour Nuit à YOGYJAKARTA ou alentours (à réserver –où ?)
Jour 4 Sites de Pambanan et Borobudur Nuit à YOGYJAKARTA ou alentours (à réserver –où ?)
Jour 5 Sites de Pambanan et Borobudur Train de nuit YOGYJAKARTA – MALANG (22h00 – 05h00
Jour 6 Sites Volcans Bromo et Kawah Ijen Nuit dans ville à définir
Jour 7 Sites Volcans Bromo et Kawah Ijen Nuit dans ville à définir
Jour 8 Transfert Ferry vers Bali (depuis SURABAYA ?) Nuit Bali lieu à définir (partie Ouest)
Jour 9 Bali (Partie Ouest) Nuit Bali lieu à définir
Jour 10 Transfert vers UBUD Nuit à UBUD (Réservé)
Jour 11 UBUD et alentours Nuit à UBUD (Réservé)
Jour 12 ? ?
Ensuite, quelques jours à Bali de plus (3 ou 4 dans lieux à définir) et direction Flores – Komodo ? ?
Qu’en pensez-vous ?
Merci de vos retours Eve et Chris.
Voici notre circuit projeté (le début, nous partons pour 40 jours . ) Jour 1 Arrivée à JAKARTA à 17h55 en soirée. Nuit à JAKARTA (Réservé)
Jour 2 Visites diverses, détente, prise billet de train pour YOGYJAKARTA Nuit à JAKARTA (Réservé)
Jour 3 Trajet train JAKARTA – YOGYJAKARTA de jour Nuit à YOGYJAKARTA ou alentours (à réserver –où ?)
Jour 4 Sites de Pambanan et Borobudur Nuit à YOGYJAKARTA ou alentours (à réserver –où ?)
Jour 5 Sites de Pambanan et Borobudur Train de nuit YOGYJAKARTA – MALANG (22h00 – 05h00
Jour 6 Sites Volcans Bromo et Kawah Ijen Nuit dans ville à définir
Jour 7 Sites Volcans Bromo et Kawah Ijen Nuit dans ville à définir
Jour 8 Transfert Ferry vers Bali (depuis SURABAYA ?) Nuit Bali lieu à définir (partie Ouest)
Jour 9 Bali (Partie Ouest) Nuit Bali lieu à définir
Jour 10 Transfert vers UBUD Nuit à UBUD (Réservé)
Jour 11 UBUD et alentours Nuit à UBUD (Réservé)
Jour 12 ? ?
Ensuite, quelques jours à Bali de plus (3 ou 4 dans lieux à définir) et direction Flores – Komodo ? ?
Qu’en pensez-vous ?
Merci de vos retours Eve et Chris.
Salut à vous deux,
pour le logement à Jogja, ce n'est pas le choix qui manque : je conseillerais le quartier Sosrowijayan, qui offre différentes gammes de confort, à partir de 80 000 RP. Et l'avantage, c'est que c'est calme, tout en étant proche de Malioboro. Inutile de réserver, à moins d'avoir des exigences particulières.
Pour le transfert à Bali depuis Java, les ferrys réguliers ne partent pas de Surabaya mais de Banyuwangi (la traversée dure 1h, parfois moins, pour un prix dérisoire : peut-être 2 ou 3 euros).
Si j'ai bien compté, il vous reste environ 1 mois après Java et Bali, les choix sont donc nombreux, en fonction de vos goûts : Lombok (très belles plages autour de Kuta ; ascension du Rinjani, ou simples balades sur ses pentes, à partir de Tetebatu par exemple), Flores (plages magnifiques aussi, villages traditionnels, volcans...), et pourquoi pas Sulawesi ou Sumatra (accès facile en avion depuis Bali) ? Ces deux îles ont beaucoup à offrir, et vous y croiserez beaucoup moins de touristes !
Voilà, à votre disposition si vous voulez plus d'infos.
Voilà, à votre disposition si vous voulez plus d'infos.
Olivier
Bonjour, nous partons avec mon ami cet été à Java et Bali (fin Juillet, début Aout), j'aimerais bien avoir des conseils concernant les transports de Yogyakarta au Mont Bromo, par train est-ce le mieux ? et où dormir vers Bromo (Malang, Cemoro Lawang?) pour pouvoir effectué un tour avec le levé du soleil sur le mont Bromo etc....
Pour le transport, est-ce que l'on peut réserver sur place sachant que ce sera la haute saison?
Nous avons que 2 semaines (voyages compris) pour tout faire donc nous aimerions pas perdre de temps et faire au mieux ! Je suis partagé sur le fait de réserver tout une fois sur place (hôtel et tour) ou le faire avant pour ne pas avoir de mauvaises surprises...
Donc si vous avez des réponses à mes questions ce serait très sympathique de me faire partager vos expériences !
Bonne soirée!
Bonne soirée!
Bonjour Alicia,
si tu veux réaliser l'excursion du Bromo sans passer par une agence, c'est tout à fait possible, et moins cher. Oui, tu peux prendre le train de Jogja jusqu'à Probolinggo, puis un transport (public ou privé, suivant l'heure à laquelle tu arrives) pour Cemoro Lawang. C'est bien de dormir là, car tu es tout près de la caldeira. Il y a de nombreux logements dans le village, notamment des homestay pas chers (environ 150 000 Rp).
Pour la montée au Mont Penanjakan et le lever du soleil sur le Bromo, tu peux y aller à pied (environ 1h30 sans grande difficulté : il suffit de suivre le chemin) ou en jeep (même en haute saison, il y aura toujours de la place).
En conclusion, tout peut s'organiser sur place, inutile donc de vouloir tout réserver depuis la France.
Olivier
Olivier
Olivier
Bonjour à tous!
Vos conseils sont très utiles!
Je compte passer une journée à Jogjakarta (je sais que ça reste très court...), quels sont les les indispensables à faire? Je suppose Borobudur et les temples de Prambanan? Est-ce jouable?
Ensuite j'ai compté 2 jours et demi pour faire le Bromo et le Kawa-Ijen (j'ai cru comprendre que c'était bon niveau timing mais que j'aurai beaucoup de transport). Me conseillez-vous sur place une agence de voyage particulière qui s'occuperait de venir me chercher le matin à Jogjakarta à l'hôtel et qui organiserait les 2 jours et demi dont les 2 nuits incluses? Pour quel budget?
Si possible à la fin des 2 jours et demi j'aimerais être déposé par l'agence au ferry direction Gilimanuk à Bali (en espérant y être en début d'aprem). Ensuite l'idéal serait que j'arrive à Ubud en fin de journée mais compte tenu du temps de transport est-ce jouable?
Merci d'avance pour votre aide!
Nico
Nico
Bonjour Nicolas,
en une journée, il vaudrait mieux choisir Borobudur, bien plus impressionnant, à mon avis, que Prambanan. Et tu peux aussi visiter le Kraton à Jogja, joli, sans plus...
2,5 jours pour le Bromo et l'Ijen, c'est bien peu pour tout organiser par toi-même. Réserve avec l'une des très nombreuses de Jogja, ça te coûrea plus cher, bien sûr, mais tu gagneras un temps précieux (désolé, mais je n'ai aucune idée du budget, j'ai fait l'excursion à chaque fois en indépendant).
E tu peux bien sûr demander à l'agence de te déposer au ferry pour Bali (c'est souvent prévu dans le forfait). Mais pour rejoindre ensuite directement (et rapidement) Ubud, la solution idéale sera le taxi, donc tarif à négocier.
Bons préparatifs,
Olivier
Bons préparatifs,
Olivier
Olivier
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I’d really like to visit some rice paddies.
Hi there,
I’m spending 4 days in Kuala Lumpur.
Could you let me know what’s absolutely worth visiting and what’s not really worth the effort?
Any suggested itinerary?
Apart from Batu Caves, I don’t have many ideas...
I’m traveling with my partner and our 16-year-old son.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m spending 4 days in Kuala Lumpur.
Could you let me know what’s absolutely worth visiting and what’s not really worth the effort?
Any suggested itinerary?
Apart from Batu Caves, I don’t have many ideas...
I’m traveling with my partner and our 16-year-old son.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi,
After our trip to China, we want to spend a week in the Philippines for some beach time and snorkeling.
We're looking for the best spot to settle in—nice beaches, great marine life, and short transfer times.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Hi there,
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai? Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai. My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Thanks for your tips! DrSnuggle
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai? Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai. My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Thanks for your tips! DrSnuggle
Hello,
While traveling in Thailand, I’m looking for a Buddhist kumlai reed bracelet.
Does anyone know where I can find one?
In Bangkok, I visited a few temples but didn’t see any in the nearby shops.
If you have any ideas, I’d love to hear them! Have a great day! :-)
Hi there
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
Hi there,
we’ll be in Mai Chau in June and we’re thinking of heading to Sapa, but first spending a few days in Bac Ha to do some hiking and explore the area.
Is this a good idea for those who’ve been there?
How do you get there?
Thanks for your feedback.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there,
I’m planning an itinerary and would love some feedback on whether it’s doable and if the number of days per destination is enough—or too much. I was also debating whether to add an extra night on an island or spend an extra night in Kampot to visit Kep or Battambang.
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!



