Cordialement
Visa B2 + ESTA (délit ou crime)
by Streetrs
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour à tous,
Je me permets de vous écrire car je n’est trouvé aucune réponse à ma situation,
J’ai été arrêté à l’age De 18 ans pour vol à l’etalage ( rappel à loi), à l’epoQue j’etais De nationalité marocaine ce qui fait que pour aller aux États Unis on demande directement un visa b2, lors de la dernière demande visa b2 il y’a 10 ans jàvais coche yes à la question (avez vous déjà été arrêté pour un délit ou un crime ) lors de mon entretien j’avais présenté une attestation comme quoi je n’ai pas été condamné ( fournis par le bureau du procureur ) ainsi que le rapport de police et les casiers judiciaires.
J’ai du coup eu mon visa ( valable 10 ans ) qui est arrivé à expiration il y’a un mois.
Aujourd’hui je suis titulaire de la nationalité française ce qui fait que pour me rendre aux États Unis je peux faire une demande d’esta, sauf qu’en formulant une demande d’esta je vais me devoir répondre à nouveau oui à la même question ( avez vous déjà été arrêté pour un délit ou un crime) ce qui fait que ça entraîneras un refus d’esta.
Que pensez vous de ma situation ? Avoir un visa b2 quand on a déjà eu un par le passé et qu’on a fait plus de 10 séjours au. États Unis est simple ou ça seras plus compliqué ?
Franchement je ne sais pas par où commence :s .
Que feriez vous à ma place ?
Cordialement
Cordialement
Bonjour,
je pense que la nouvelle demande de visa devrait bien se passer (que mon avis, je ne travaille pas pour le service d'immigration US) . Si vous avez déjà fait 10 séjours aux USA et que vous êtes toujours reparti, ça prouve que vous ne représentez pas un risque d'immigration illégale ou de trouble quelconque pour les Etats-Unis. Le seul risque serait si vous aviez vraiment passé beaucoup beaucoup de temps aux USA pendant ces 10 ans, ça pourrait faire penser à un double domicile; mais dans ce cas le visa aurait sans doute été annulé avant la fin des 10 ans, ou au moins vous auriez été interrogé à l'arrivée aux USA lors d'un voyage passé.
je pense que la nouvelle demande de visa devrait bien se passer (que mon avis, je ne travaille pas pour le service d'immigration US) . Si vous avez déjà fait 10 séjours aux USA et que vous êtes toujours reparti, ça prouve que vous ne représentez pas un risque d'immigration illégale ou de trouble quelconque pour les Etats-Unis. Le seul risque serait si vous aviez vraiment passé beaucoup beaucoup de temps aux USA pendant ces 10 ans, ça pourrait faire penser à un double domicile; mais dans ce cas le visa aurait sans doute été annulé avant la fin des 10 ans, ou au moins vous auriez été interrogé à l'arrivée aux USA lors d'un voyage passé.
photos de voyage: " https://www.flickr.com/photos/franciswalter06/albums"
Merci pour votre réponse.
Je n’ai jamais dépassé la durée autorisé et à chaque fois j’y allais que pour visiter et découvrir un bout du pays.
Selon vous je devrais faire une demande d’esta avec mon passport français ? Ou faire une demande de visa directement avec le passport Marocain ?
Si je fais une demande d’esta est ce que je dois répondre oui à la question suivante :
- Avez-vous déjà été arrêté ou jugé coupable d’un crime qui a causé de graves dommages ou atteintes à des biens, des personnes ou une autorité gouvernementale ?
Si je répond oui je suppose que mon esta seras refusé ? Je ne sais vraiment pas par où commencée :s
Dans m’atten De vous lire.
Cordialement
Si je répond oui je suppose que mon esta seras refusé ? Je ne sais vraiment pas par où commencée :s
Dans m’atten De vous lire.
Cordialement
Bonsoir,
En effet, si vous repondez oui, ce sera un refus automatique. Donc visa dans tous les cas.
En effet, si vous repondez oui, ce sera un refus automatique. Donc visa dans tous les cas.
Que dois je faire dans ce cas ? Répondre oui ou non ? Ils ont connaissance de ces éléments au vu de la précédente demande et dans tout les cas ils feront le lien avec le nom prénom date de naissance ?!
Je fais une demande d’esta et après le refus je fais une demande de visa ? Vous pensez que j’aurai mon visa comme à la première demande ?
Bonjour,
3 solutions:
1) Le rappel à la loi est une condamnation (en terme de droit) et non pas une relaxe. De ce fait, à la question Esta "avez vous déjà été condamné pour un délit" (le vol étant un délit), vous devez répondre Oui. En répondant oui, vous aurez votre Esta automatiquement refusé. Il faudra donc passer par la carte visa Français en suivant la même procédure que lors ce que vous aviez demandé le visa au Maroc. Les éléments probants que vous avez amené la première fois + le fait d'avoir eu le visa marocain durant 10 ans et l'avoir utilisé régulièrement sans problèmes sont des plus qui devrait éviter tout soucis. Rien n'est jamais sûr avec les Americains, surtout que la situation a évoluée en 10 ans.
2) Redemander le visa via le Maroc en première instance et voir ce qu'il se passe. Comme via la solution 1, c'est une version qui devrait passer sans trop de problèmes, même si on est jamais à l'abri d'un refus.
3) Mentir sur l'Esta en terme de condamnation est une possibilité. L'avantage de votre situation est que vous avez un dossier vierge côté Français. Et le lien entre nom/prénom/date de naissance n'est pas fait sur des personnes sans litiges. Après, c'est un All in. Ça passe, très bien, vous êtes tranquille. Si ça passe pas, il faudra oublier les USA en terme de destination :D
Il y a peu de risques mais si on se fait choper ... Personnellement, je déconseille.
La solution 1 me semble la plus pertinente. A vous de voir.
3 solutions:
1) Le rappel à la loi est une condamnation (en terme de droit) et non pas une relaxe. De ce fait, à la question Esta "avez vous déjà été condamné pour un délit" (le vol étant un délit), vous devez répondre Oui. En répondant oui, vous aurez votre Esta automatiquement refusé. Il faudra donc passer par la carte visa Français en suivant la même procédure que lors ce que vous aviez demandé le visa au Maroc. Les éléments probants que vous avez amené la première fois + le fait d'avoir eu le visa marocain durant 10 ans et l'avoir utilisé régulièrement sans problèmes sont des plus qui devrait éviter tout soucis. Rien n'est jamais sûr avec les Americains, surtout que la situation a évoluée en 10 ans.
2) Redemander le visa via le Maroc en première instance et voir ce qu'il se passe. Comme via la solution 1, c'est une version qui devrait passer sans trop de problèmes, même si on est jamais à l'abri d'un refus.
3) Mentir sur l'Esta en terme de condamnation est une possibilité. L'avantage de votre situation est que vous avez un dossier vierge côté Français. Et le lien entre nom/prénom/date de naissance n'est pas fait sur des personnes sans litiges. Après, c'est un All in. Ça passe, très bien, vous êtes tranquille. Si ça passe pas, il faudra oublier les USA en terme de destination :D
Il y a peu de risques mais si on se fait choper ... Personnellement, je déconseille.
La solution 1 me semble la plus pertinente. A vous de voir.
Que dois je faire dans ce cas ? Répondre oui ou non ? Ils ont connaissance de ces éléments au vu de la précédente demande et dans tout les cas ils feront le lien avec le nom prénom date de naissance ?!
Je fais une demande d’esta et après le refus je fais une demande de visa ? Vous pensez que j’aurai mon visa comme à la première demande ?
Je ne comprends pas, votre vol à l'étalage et votre rappel à la loi, c'était en France ou aux Etats Unis ??? En lisant j'ai l'impression que c'était au Maroc... Si c'est le cas, vous avez demandé un visa parce que vous étiez marocain, c'est cela ? Et non pas parce que vous avez enfreint la loi. Maintenant vous avez un passeport français, et je ne vois pas bien pourquoi répondre OUI à cette question... Bon, c'est confus pour moi, mais apparemment les autres participants au Forum ont compris puiqu'ils vous répondent 😏
Je ne comprends pas, votre vol à l'étalage et votre rappel à la loi, c'était en France ou aux Etats Unis ??? En lisant j'ai l'impression que c'était au Maroc... Si c'est le cas, vous avez demandé un visa parce que vous étiez marocain, c'est cela ? Et non pas parce que vous avez enfreint la loi. Maintenant vous avez un passeport français, et je ne vois pas bien pourquoi répondre OUI à cette question... Bon, c'est confus pour moi, mais apparemment les autres participants au Forum ont compris puiqu'ils vous répondent 😏
Ils ne savaient pas que c'était impossible, alors ils l'ont fait.
Je pense également que c'était au Maroc.
Je ne connais pas la peine maximale pour le vol au Maroc mais il y a exception à répondre OUI si la peine maximale de l'infraction (selon la loi nationale) à laquelle le voyageur aurait pu être condamné n'excède pas un emprisonnement d'une année, et si le voyageur a été condamné à un emprisonnement de 6 mois au maximum. www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1182
Pour un vol en France cela ne collerait pas puisque le vol est passible de trois ans d’emprisonnement.
Je ne connais pas la peine maximale pour le vol au Maroc mais il y a exception à répondre OUI si la peine maximale de l'infraction (selon la loi nationale) à laquelle le voyageur aurait pu être condamné n'excède pas un emprisonnement d'une année, et si le voyageur a été condamné à un emprisonnement de 6 mois au maximum. www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1182
Pour un vol en France cela ne collerait pas puisque le vol est passible de trois ans d’emprisonnement.
Re bonjour
Voici un résumé de votre excellent lien : https://www.nnuimmigration.com/esta-approval-criminal-record/
Voici un résumé de votre excellent lien : https://www.nnuimmigration.com/esta-approval-criminal-record/
Merci à tous pour vos réponse.
Ce vol à la con s’est passé en France. A l’époque j’etais De nationalité marocaine uniquement.
je pense que la meilleure des solutions pour moi est de répondre oui quitte à voir mon esta refusé, je formulerai une demande de visa classique et je fournirai les différents documents que j’ai en ma possession.
La question est vraiment mal tourné ( un vol à l’etalage Est il si grave que ça ? )
Cordialement
Cordialement
Cela ne sert à rien de faire une demande d'Esta si c'est pour répondre OUI. Il sera automatiquement refusé à 100%. Et vous aurez payé pour rien.
Il y a des Français qui font des demandes de visa tous les jours en fonction de leur passé :
- voyage dans des pays non autorisés
- problèmes comme vous de passé à problèmes
- et autres
Donc cela ne n’ étonnera personnes et au moins , si vous prenez ce chemin , vous pourrez vous expliquer . N’oubliez pas d’apporter avec votre passeport Marocain avec le visa US dessus , au cas ou on vous le demande.
Donc cela ne n’ étonnera personnes et au moins , si vous prenez ce chemin , vous pourrez vous expliquer . N’oubliez pas d’apporter avec votre passeport Marocain avec le visa US dessus , au cas ou on vous le demande.
Merci pour votre réponse, à votre avis ma demande de visa b2 passeras ou il y’a de fortes chances que ça passe pas ?
-je suis en cdi
-je suis propriétaire ( j’ai un gros crédit au dos )
Lors de ma demande du b2 il y’a 10 ans l’agent ne m’a de demande aucun document à part le rapport de police et mon casier judiciaire.
Sinon pour tout le reste c’étaient que des questions relatives à ma situation qui était je dirais précaire à l’epoque ( étudiant avec des revenus très modestes).
Pour me rassurer je me dis que si on me l’a accepté à l’epoque il y’a aucune raison qu’on me dise non aujourd’hui ?! j’ai besoin de vos lumières :(
Pour me rassurer je me dis que si on me l’a accepté à l’epoque il y’a aucune raison qu’on me dise non aujourd’hui ?! j’ai besoin de vos lumières :(
Bonjour
Vous allez devoir prouver que vous allez rentrer en France. Préparé vous en ayant tous les docs demandés en original et en copie , votre passeport Marocain avec votre visa US dessus ou si vous avez gardé une copie de votre visa.Bien sur ce passeport ne doit pas être sorti de suite lors de la conversation mais si on vous demande si vous avez déjà eu un visa US.
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As a French national, I need to obtain a short-stay visa that can be converted to a long-stay one. To do this, I have to send the required documents to the Madagascar embassy in Paris.
No issues with that procedure so far.
If I get this visa, once I arrive in Madagascar, I’ll need to provide the same documents to the Ministry of the Interior in Anosy. I’m trying to find an email address or website for the Ministry to check which documents I need to submit (I think they ask for additional ones).
If you have any info on this, I’d appreciate your replies.
Best regards,
M. Buisson Eric
Hi there,
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I filled out the B2 form to apply for a visa, created an account on Atvis to pay the visa fees and schedule a meet-up, but every time I try to pay with my Boursobank Visa 1st card, they refuse the payment with a message telling me to check my details (address), even though everything is correct. Does anyone know why this is happening, or maybe they don’t accept Visa cards? Are you aware of this?
Thanks for your feedback!
Elisabeth
Hi,
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
Hi there,
We need to apply for a B2 visa because we visited Iran in 2018. It currently costs $185, but they’re planning an additional $250 fee per person for the same visa—it’s been approved but not yet implemented. Does anyone know when this fee will take effect?
Thanks in advance!
Elisabeth
Hi there,
In November, we're heading off on a 4-month trip. We'll be landing in China and plan to leave the country via a land border into Vietnam.
I’ve read that China may ask for proof of exit within 30 days (flight ticket or other reservation). Since we’d be leaving by land, I’m wondering how this works in practice.
Has anyone here been in this situation recently?
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Hi there,
Just a question that’s probably been asked before (though usually the other way around for my situation :))
My wife and I are heading to the US.
On her ticket, it only has her maiden name (e.g., Martine DUPOND).
On her passport, it’s written as Martine DUPOND épouse AVRY.
No issues for travel, I hope I did the right thing with the ticket?
Then for the ESTA, is just Martine DUPOND enough, or do I need to include the "épouse AVRY" part like on the passport?
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’m spending a few days in San Pedro de Atacama (Chile) and would like to cross the Argentine border to make a loop toward Salta and then return to Chile to drop off the rental car.
I’ve heard that crossing the border can be tricky!
Is it possible with a rental company’s authorization? Which company, and at what cost?
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
Best regards,
Arnale
Hi everyone,
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
Hi there,
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.