Hi, Has anyone here already crossed China with your own vehicle (with a guide and in a group, etc.) to get from Mongolia to Nepal? And on top of that, with a dog on board? Thanks in advance for your feedback.

Bonjour à tous,

Je réfléchis déjà à notre prochain voyage en famille en 2019. La Chine nous attire beaucoup pour la diversité des paysages. En quelques mots, nous sommes une famille de 4 avec nos deux filles qui auront 19 et 17 ans, les découvertes des paysages et de la faune sont nos centres d'intérêts principaux, mais nous aimons également découvrir la culture du pays. Pas le choix pour la période, cela sera juillet ou août... impossible sinon de partir 3 semaines d'affilée et je pense que c'est un minimum pour un premier voyage !

Voici la première ébauche d'itinéraire :

3 nuits Pékin, transfert à Xi'an en train (Grande muraille, cité interdite, etc) 2 nuits Xi'an, transfert à Chengdu en train (armée souterraine, vieille ville, etc) 3 nuits Chengdu, transfert à Lijiang en avion (Bouddha Leshan, Dujiangyan pour les pandas) 2 nuits Lijiang, transfert à Dali en voiture, taxi possible ? (Blue Moon Valley, etc) 2 nuits Dali, transfert à Kunming en train (Lac Erhai, temple, village Xizjou) 1 nuit Kunming, transfert à Guilin en avion, (forêt de pierres) 2 nuits Guilin (rizières Longji, village Pingan, croisière jusqu'à Yangshuo sur la rivière Li) 3 nuits Yangshuo (ou autre ?) visite tranquille de la région (colline des couleurs accumulée, radeau, etc)

Ensuite, je ne sais pas... soit

3 nuits Shanghaï ou 3 nuits Hong Kong

ou encore

2 nuits Zhangjiajie (ça serait super !) 3 nuits Shanghaï

Là cela ferait 23 nuits, c'est possible dans le planning. Zhangjiajie a l'air magnifique mais je n'arrive pas à savoir si c'est possible. et comment y aller ! Est-ce que ce parcours serait imaginable sans passer par une agence ? J'ai demandé un devis et c'est vraiment très cher... nous avons l'habitude d'organiser nos vacances par nous-mêmes, mais là, il me semble que c'est plus compliqué que pour d'autres pays.

Un grand merci pour votre aide et avis. Bonne journée à tous.

Bonjour,

Je cherche un guide au Xianjiang pour m'aider à traverser la frontière avec mon propre véhicule. J'ai déjà passé des heures à lire les forum/facebook and co, disant qu'il faut passer par une agence et blablabla. Seulement voilà, je suis du genre tétu ... Quelqu'un aurai un contact, mail, téléphone, peut-importe, dans la contrée du Xianjiang qui pourrait me donner un coup de mains ? Merci d'avance,

Bonjour,

Je dois partir en Chine d'ici plusieurs mois , je devrais en ramener un reportage réalisé auprès de gens éparses dans le pays, auprès de qui je ne serais pas forcément introduite; est il possible de prendre contact directement avec des gens qu'on ne connait pas sur place, ou est ce que ça pose un pbleme culturel svp?

Est il possible de voyager en Chine en solo, zones reculées comprises sans traducteur si l'on est pas sinologue svp?

Et enfin si il y a nécessité d'avoir un traducteur, où le recruter et autour de quels tarifs svp?

En vous remerciant 🙂

Quelqu'un a des nouvelles récentes d'eux ? Ca fait plusieurs jours que j'essaie de les joindre pour un voyage au Tibet début septembre, silence radio. Pendant ce temps-là, le temps passe. Sinon, vous connaissez d'autres agences sérieuses pour le Tibet ?

Merci d'avance

Bonsoir J'ai parcouru quelques topics mais je ne trouve pas l'information . Je pars en Chine en août et envisage d'utiliser Skype et/Ou Whatsapp pour rester en contact t avec ma famille. J'ai cru comprendre qu'il y a pas mal de censure. Comment dois je faire ? Et pour accéder à internet ? Merci

Bonjour,

Je me rends à Guangzhou en Janvier, avez-vous des conseils, idée resto, info pratique à savoir ? Faut-il un interprète pour Yiwu, avez-vous des conseils ou contact à me donner ? j'y séjournerai 4 jours. Merci de vos réponse 😐

Hi there. We’re planning a month in November to visit several places in China. This time, though, we’d like to do it with a car and driver (unlike our last trip to Sichuan, where we went on our own).

Thanks in advance and have a great day! !

Bonjour Nous préparons notre TDM d'un peu plus de 6 mois qui débutera en juillet 2020, nous hésitons sur la première destination qui sera la seule destination asiatique (ensuite Autralie NZ et amérique du sud), j'étais plutot partie sur Birmanie, Cambodge ou Java mais mon mari a envie d'aller en Chine. Nous cherchons un pays abordable financièrement mais surtout au niveau des gens, avec de beaux paysages et des temples. Nous connaissons le Sri lanka, la Thailande et allons à Bali cette été. J'ai regardé la Chine on pourrait faire un Pekin -> Hong kong en 20 jours et voir des trucs sympa : grande muraile, panda, rizières et beaux paysages, ça me va. MAIS les retours sur la Chine sont assez mitigés en terme de pollution, de contact avec la population et de facilité de voyage. Nous nous organisons seuls (ne parlons pas chinois) et voyageons avec nos 4 enfants qui auront 18-16-11-5 ans.

J'aurai voulu avoir vos avis et retours.... en plus juillet n'est pas top en terme de temps (mais sur tous les pays envisagés c'est pareil).

Merci de votre aide !

Bonjour les voyageurs !

Nous partons pour la Nouvelle-Zélande en février, et aurons une escale de 11h00 à HONG KONG. Nous sommes deux personnes, et voudrions prendre une sorte de "taxi-guide" qui pourrait nous amener à différents points touristiques de la ville, pour visiter un maximum de choses rapidement.

L'escale est le 04 Février de 06h30 (atterrissage à Hong-Kong) à 17h25 (Décollage de Hong-Kong).

Auriez-vous un contact d'une personne pouvant nous prendre en charge en voiture et être à notre disposition durant toute la durée de l'escale ?

Merci d'avance de vos bons conseils, AM

Bonjour, 1 er) Que peux ton visiter à Kanding ( et proche) sans treck en 2 jours. 2 éme) Que ne faut il pas manquer ( ex. temple, visite habitant, famille) sur la route entre Kanding et Tagong . Est il indispensable de prendre voiture privée si vraiment des choses à voir pour pouvoir s'arreter durant ce trajet, si rien de très spécial à voir ou faire alors nous prendrons un van collectif pour faire ce trajet. Pouvez vous me conseiller. Je vois sur tripadvisor des temples sur ce chemin, mais valent il la peine de prendre une voiture privée.

3eme ) Nous restons 4 jours à Tagong ( attention personnes agées) donc petit treck facile. Que faire pendant ces 4 jours, notre souhait être le plus possible en contact avec les moines et les habitants. Y a t il des choses aux environs super chouette mais qui pour nous nécessiterait la location d'un véhicule

4è) Comment aller à Danba, y a t il vraiment des choses supers à voir ? lesqueles

5 ème) et enfin, après visite à Danba comment rejoindre Chengdu

Merci pour votre aide. Ludi

Bonjour à tous, J'ai eu le bonheur de séjourner au Talam Khang, petit monastère / guesthouse attenant au Darjay Gompa près de Ganze, Sichuan, en mai dernier. J'aimerais faire parvenir une photo à Jaba, le moine qui reçoit les étrangers et avec qui j'ai passé des moments extraordinaires. Tous ceux qui sont passés par là voient ce que je veux dire : c'est un endroit fantastique, au milieu d'une vallée sublime surplombée par des pics enneigés... les moines qui vous accueillent... vous accueillent ! bref, je ne peux que vous encourager à vous y rendre ! Et justement, si vous projetez de faire le voyage, pourrais-je vous confier un clichet : c'est un portrait de Jaba, pour lui donner ? ça serait super sympa. Sinon, une adresse fiable, en piyin avec traduction en caractères chinois ??? je peux tenter de lui envoyer par la poste régulière...

Par avance merci, Et à votre disposition si vous avez des questions sur ce coin du monde dans lequel je viens de me promener 3 semaines durant,

Camille

Hello, me voici de retour d'un mois de voyage au Yunnan - accompagnée d'un ami. Je suis revenue enchantée de ce séjour, que certains m'avaient prédit très compliqué...

Pas facile, facile de communiquer, certes, mais les Chinois étaient très cordiaux, souriants, souvent prêts à nous aider quand ils le pouvaient. Sentiment que je n'avais pas gardé il y a 2 ans, lors d'un petit voyage de 15 jours à Pékin, Pingyao, Xian. Peut-être était-ce dû à "l'urbanité" des habitants, un certain stress, conséquence de leur mode de vie... ou était-ce moi qui n'était pas aussi patiente, ou réceptive, ou... Toujours est-il que j'ai vraiment revu mon état d'esprit sur le sens de l'accueil des Chinois, j'insiste un peu là-dessus car j'ai entendu souvent des touristes le critiquer...

Je ne vais pas donner en détail les étapes de ce voyage, je ne sais pas si je saurais bien transcrire ce que j'ai vu. Mais si vous avez des questions, d'ordre pratique ou autres, n'hésitez pas.

SI, un souci inattendu m'attendait... Il faut dire que je suis un "dinosaure", question technologie, et que je voyage... les mains dans les poches... Pas de smartphone, même pas un portable... Jusqu'à présent, je n'ai jamais eu de souci, dans chaque pays traversé, j'allais de temps en temps dans un cybercafé pour garder le contact - "lointain" - avec mes proches ou éventuellement réserver... Je n'aime vraiment pas rester "connectée" durant mes voyages, je sais, c'est louche... ! mais non, j'ai envie simplement de profiter pleinement de ce que je vois et je vis, et couper avec le quotidien, le plus possible...

Je suppose que ce que je dis semble de... l'hébreu, à la plupart d'entre vous, car évidemment, je ne rencontre quasiment personne sans son smartphone... Bref, il m'a été quasi-impossible de me connecter sur internet - même avec l'aide de jeunes très sympas qui étaient désolés de ne pouvoir m'aider - sur ma messagerie où j'ai pu aller... une fois... mon mail était traduit... en chinois... !!! rageant sur le moment, rigolo après coup !

Le copain avait un smartphone, on a donc pu communiquer via WhatsApp, mais pour le reste, nous n'avions pas les applications nécessaires, bref... on s'est débrouillés... ! Pas de traducteur, pas de gps, pas de... tout ce dont se servent les voyageurs actuels... Changement radical de façon de voyager quand même, non ? Ceux qui ont mon âge comprendront... Je pense que les deux ont du bon, mais en utilisant tant de technologie, on réduit les échanges, il me semble, non ? la question reste ouverte !

Juste une idée rapide de l'itinéraire emprunté : Kunming - Jianshui - rizières en terrasses - Jinghong - Dali - Shaxi - Lijiang - Gorges du Saut du Tigre - Terres rouges...

Temps idéal - doux (plus tropical à Jinghong), un peu de pluie parfois - pas de ressenti de pollution (scooters électriques et éoliennes partout)

Trajets en bus le plus souvent, retour sur Kunming en train de nuit, et un vol intérieur de Jinghong à Dali. Routes impeccables... arrêts pour pause pipi lors de grands trajets... inoubliables...

Ce que j'ai le moins apprécié : Lijiang, trop touristique (eh oui, patrimoine mondial de l'Unesco), mais il y a toujours moyen de s'en évader), mes coups de cœur, les rizières en terrasses (alors que ce n'était pas "le bon moment", paraît-il), des paysages irréels de toute beauté - et les Terres Rouges, au nord-est de Kunming, pour les mêmes raisons

J'espère avoir donné envie d'aller y voir de près...

Hi everyone,

I’ve traveled a lot outside Europe before Covid, usually organizing my trips myself. In recent years, I’ve focused on Europe, which I’d neglected before. Now, I’d like to get back to long-haul trips and fill in some gaps on my world map.

At the moment, I’m considering a route in China—I’ve only been to Hong Kong (which isn’t really China)—for late April/early May 2026. Here’s a first draft:

D1: Departure D2: Arrive in Beijing in the morning – hutongs – night in Beijing D3: Forbidden City – Temple of Heaven – night in Beijing D4: Great Wall – night in Beijing D5: Summer Palace – (Ming Tombs?) – night in Beijing D6: Train to Datong – Yungang Grottoes – night in Datong D7: Train to Pingyao – visit – night in Pingyao D8: Train to Xi’an – Wild Goose Pagoda – night in Xi’an D9: Terracotta Army – Xi’an city walls – night in Xi’an D10: Flight to Zhangjiajie (or the night before) – Tianzi Mountain – night in Wulingyuan D11: National park – night in Wulingyuan D12: National park – night in Wulingyuan D13: Train to Chongqing – night in Chongqing D14: Explore Chongqing – night in Chongqing D15: Return flight

I know it’s tight, but what do you think? For the Great Wall section, what do you recommend? Jinshanling seems like the best option, or Simatai, but it’s far. For the budget, I’m planning on 2,500 € per person. Thanks for your feedback! Phil

We’ve just returned from a 30-day trip to China, 20 years after our last visit to this vast country. What a transformation! So many new highways, high-speed trains, clean public restrooms, very comfortable and affordable hotels, and queues before boarding public transport… Has China really changed this much?

Language Technology has helped overcome—on a very small scale, of course—the language barrier thanks to translation apps on our phones. Unfortunately, very few Chinese people speak English, even in international hotels, which we find baffling, even frustrating, but that’s just how it is, and it’s up to us to adapt. It’s a shame, too, because no one makes an effort to communicate any other way than through their phone, which wasn’t the case when we were there 20 years ago. In restaurants, hotels, and some shops, they’ll show you a voice translation—usually in English—on a phone, and all you have to do is respond.

Payments We never withdrew cash in China. It’s possible to do so, but we never looked for an ATM. On the other hand, we tried to exchange 100 € as soon as we arrived in Xi’an, and it was a real ordeal. We had to do it at a specific bank, The Bank of China, and the administrative process took… an hour! So, no cash. Like everyone else, we used Alipay, one of the most popular online payment systems, and it’s super easy to use. WeChat also works well but is a bit more complicated to set up. It’s so convenient and used absolutely everywhere, even for purchases of 5 yuan, which is roughly the equivalent of about 55 euro cents. 10 yuan equals 1.22 €.

Phone As for the internet, I had installed a VPN before leaving—Let’s VPN—but it was completely useless since we had subscribed to an international plan with our carrier before the trip, which gave us 35 GB of data. No need to ask hotels for Wi-Fi; we only used roaming. It worked perfectly, no matter where we were. So, no VPN or SIM card for us.

TWO ESSENTIAL TOOLS FOR TRAVELING: your passport and your phone Traveling to China is much simpler than you might think. And let’s add that the Chinese, despite the language barrier, are very open and always ready to help.

The itinerary After carefully planning our route and considering the length of our stay (I had initially thought about applying for a visa longer than 30 days to stay for 6 weeks in China), we decided to take advantage of the recent option to stay for 30 days. Of course, we had to make some choices. I booked a one-way ticket from Paris to Xi’an and a return from Kunming to Paris once the itinerary was set: 9 days in northern Gansu 4 days in Hunan, specifically the well-known Zhangjiajie 15 days in Yunnan

Organization, transport, hotels This wasn’t a "backpacker" trip, as the hotels we booked were generally comfortable. I had arranged a car with a driver for the Yunnan portion through the Ciel Yunnan agency. Excellent choice—it allowed us to optimize our route. For the Gansu and Hunan portions, after much deliberation, we decided against hiring a driver. All our travel was by train and taxi. Taxis are available near train stations, airports, and some hotels in big cities. We also used "Didi," the Chinese equivalent of Uber. The app is available through Alipay. Getting around China by train is extremely easy. You just need to book your tickets on a travel site. I used trip.com and travelchina. Since we weren’t traveling during peak season, it was easy to get the tickets we wanted. You can buy train tickets up to 15 days before departure. You can book earlier, but there’s no guarantee you’ll get the time you want, especially during tourist seasons (usually the first week of October or May). Once at the station, you only need to show your passport, and you’ll need it again when leaving the station. Taxis are easy to find and not expensive. For day trips, we usually went through the hotel. Like everyone else, I had checked the prices of online tour agencies beforehand, and they were all overpriced. It’s better to wait until the last minute or, if possible, contact the hotel and ask them. I did this twice. We took domestic flights three times: Xi’an to Dunhuang Lanzhou to Changsha Changsha to Lijiang It’s best to buy flights shortly before departure, as prices are quite low then. There’s no point in booking months in advance. Often, flights only appear 2 months before departure. All hotel reservations were made on trip.com, except for three booked on Booking. Almost all exceeded our expectations in terms of comfort. Rooms were usually spacious, and new technology even makes its way into the rooms with "smart" toilets and automatic curtains… All for a very reasonable price.

The "attractions" That’s the term used on travel sites like trip.com for visits and activities, and it fits perfectly! Don’t expect to move freely around a natural tourist site. Cars aren’t allowed. The process is more or less the same everywhere: you arrive at the visitor center, pay the entrance fee, then, with your ticket or passport (always keep them on you!), you board a bus that takes you to the various viewpoints. The duration of the "tour" is usually indicated. It might seem confusing or even unnatural, but no one can avoid it unless you go to very remote, non-touristy places. Generally, the further west you go, the less this type of visit exists. The upside is that these places are better preserved since access is only by electric shuttle. On the downside, you sometimes have to deal with noisy tourist groups, their guides’ loudspeakers, and their non-stop chatter. But if you move a little further away, you’ll often find yourself alone.

Highlights of this trip:🙂 A 2-day escape to the Badan Jaran Desert—absolutely stunning. The colorful mountains near Zhangye. The Buddhist caves in Gansu. The breathtaking Hani and Yi rice terraces in Yuanyang. The architecture of the old towns, even if they sometimes feel a bit overdone. The warm welcome from the locals.

A little disappointed by: Zhangjiajie, despite its beauty. It was way too crowded, even though we were there in the off-season. And that’s nothing compared to the Stone Forest near Kunming… I also struggled with the food after a while. 😕

A few photos to come…

Hi there, I’m getting ready for a classic tourist trip to China in May 2026. The "Terres Lointaines" itinerary looks good to me, and the price is interesting. Has anyone traveled with them before? Any feedback? Is there a better option? Thanks so much for sharing your experiences on this! Michel

Salut à tous, Récemment, j'ai communiqué avec un ami en Chine. Il m'a dit que le gouvernement chinois avait essayé de censurer ou de contrôler Internet. Il devait utiliser un VPN pour échapper à ce pare-feu pour communiquer avec moi, et maintenant il est de plus en plus difficile pour les VPN de contourner le grand pare-feu chinois. Il a essayé Divers VPN auront toujours divers problèmes de connexion. Je suis curieux à ce sujet, pourquoi ces pays sont-ils si stricts avec Internet? Y a-t-il encore des VPN qui échappent au Grand Firewall de Chine ? Si oui, c'est quoi? Je veux recommander à mon ami.

J'espère obtenir les dernières réponses, ce n'est pas seulement de Google. Cordialement

Bonjour, je pars avec un collègue en Chine pour le mois de mars notre itinéraire ça serai Pékin et Shanghai et la muraille de chine à visiter on aimerai savoir par où commencer les distances les différents transports train avion et bus interne le prix les hébergements et le prix du visa cordialement.

Bonjour

Depuis le 1er juin, mon abonnement express VPN, démarré vers mi mai en France puis en Chine, ne fonctionne plus en Chine. Impossible d'envoyer un message ou un email au support. Quelqu'un aurait une idée pourquoi ? Mon 2e VPN, PROTON, ne fonctionne pas non plus, mais je ne l'avais jamais essayé.

Merci pour votre aide.

Bonjour je dois me rendre à Zhuhai fin avril 2019 pour raisons professionnelles. Je dispose ensuite de 48 heures libres, comment pourrai-je les utiliser à bon escient? Est-ce que Macau est intéressante à visiter ou vaut-il mieux aller à Hongkong? Apparemment il y a un nouveau pont qui relie les 3 villes, est-ce qu'il permet un gain de temps important permettant de faire des escapades rapides? Merci d'avance

actuellement dans le Ghuizou pour découvrir les fêtes du printemps des minorités: que du bonheur! grâce au guide que nous avons trouvé et qui connait fort bien sa région, étant lui même de l'ethnie Miao nous avons pu assister à certaines fêtes dans villages perdus les unes plus belles que les autres. pas l'ombre d'un touristes... sauf quelques touristes chinois.

en plus des fêtes qui sont principalement durant le nouvel an chinois, il y en a durant toute l'année, le ghuizou offre de beaux paysages de montagne. tony6868@163.com pourra vous renseigner et vous aider à construire votre séjour au Ghuizou, province totalement méconnue mais bien reliée par train, route et avion depuis Pékin et autres grandes villes.

les fêtes sont vraiment colorées et il y a une infinité de costumes parfois dignes de la haute couture! on recommande fortement de penser à cette région! il est difficile de faire seuls sans guide les différentes fêtes quelles que soit la période de l'année car la plus part des villages ne sont pas reliés par bus à des villes ou les gens des villes ne savent pas ou se passent ces festivals de danses traditionnels ou concours de lushengs (flutes de bambou) ou combat de buffles car dates changeantes avec la lune et/ou ne sont pas toujours dans même village d'une année sur l'autre. et même si parfois le même jour il y a à différents endroits des fêtes savoir quelle sera la plus belle reste difficile aussi:

bon voyage

Bonjour, je souhaite partir en Chine cette année mais j'hésite dans le choix des régions. Le Tibet me plairait beaucoup mais juin est ce le bon mois? sinon j'envisage aussi de Pékin à Guilin en passant par Xian et Shangai en septembre mais j' ai peur d'être décue. Enfin le Yunnan de Kunming à Shangri La me plairait également. Merci à l'avance pour vos réponses. Myrtile

Je voudrais savoir s'il est possible de voyager en Chine seuls quand on ne connait pas la langue et notre anglais est assez lointain Est il possible de trouver sur place des guides francophones comme nous l'avons fait durant nos différents voyages en Indonésie, aux Iles Célèbes, au Cambodge etc... merci de me répondre car nous projetons de nous y rendre 3 semaines au mois de septembre prochain cordialement

petiterere

Nous souhaitons faire un voyage organisé pour notre famille de 4 personnes en aout 2018 et recherchons un voyagiste spécialisé sur la chine

bonjour à tous,

partons en individuel en fevrier en Chine!

ayant lu que formalités fastidueuses pour changer argent dans les banques, retrait aux automates couteux car commissions, y a t il autres solutions interessantes?

possibilités aussi de change dans les grands hotels même si pas client?

merci pour vos réactions et infos.

bonnes fêtes à tous et lumineux 2018

bonjour , ça y est j'ai RV avec Shaolei pour prendre ma première leçon de Mandarin: en faite on va faire connaissance. Je pars en juillet-aout 2018 sur 30 jours (à cause du visa sinon cela pourrait être 40 ou 50 jours) avec un ami. Mon but principal est de rencontrer les gens dans leur quotidien et plus particulièrement les ehtnies du sud ( Mao-Dong), car je pense qu'il ont su garder des valeurs ( accueil, solidarité) que la facilité de notre vie occidentale nous a fait oublié. Je sais que l'échange avec les mots sera difficile voire impossible mais je pense aussi que tous ne passe pas par les mots ( il y a la musique, les sons, les odeurs, les émotions qui sont universels). Par contre, je veux apprendre le minimun pour le premier pas qui est à mon avis le plus important et apprendre le minimum à faire pour ne pas blesser les gens que je vais rencontrer. Mais là, je viens aussi vous faire part de mon désarroi pour que cela ne coûte pas trop cher. J'ai demandé 1 devis à une agence de voyage car je n'ai pas forcément envie de me prendre la tête pour gagner 100€ mais si c'est pour en gagner 1000 là c'est autre chose. Voilà mon programme ( pour 15 juillet-15 aout 2018 environ): vol Montpellier-Pékin visite cité interdite-grande muraille nuit à Pékin transfert en train vers Xi'an pour voir le mausolée de l'empereur Qin avec guide parlant français nuit à Xi'an transfert vers Guiyang nuit à Guiyang Et c'est là que ça commence vraiment pour moi, il nous restera au moins 20 jours pour partir à pied et en utilisant les transports locaux avec pour unique objectif de rencontrer les gens hors des sentiers touristiques. vol retour Guiyang_Montpellier Pour l'agence , pensez vous qu'elle peut me fournir cela pour 1000€. Pensez vous possible de l'obtenir pour ce budget là. Merci de vos réponses Dominique

Bonjour,

Départ pour la Chine ( Yunnan) le 15 février, notre voyage est organisé depuis qq temps déjà, mais nous aurions quelques questions pratiques pour ceux qui sont des habitués de ces régions lointaines ... - Trouve-t-on facilement des ATM pour retirer de l'argent ? - Y-a-t-il un plafond pour la somme que l'on veut retirer ? - Existe-t-il des pharmacies ou qqchose d'approchant où l'on peut trouver des médicaments basiques, genre aspirine, paracétamol ou immodium ? - Peut-on manger la nourriture vendue dans la rue ? - que mange-ton généralement au petit déjeuner ? Merci pour vos réponses qui nous seront bien utiles !

Bonjour,

Je pars en avril 2017 en Chine pour un mois. Provinces du Guizhou et Guangxi. J'aimerais découvrir ces provinces en évitant les coins les plus touristiques, sans pour autant me priver des beaux coins. Ma femme est chinoise, nous avons tous les deux le permis de conduire chinois. Il nous est facile de louer une voiture et de nous écarter du flux principal. Quelqu'un connait il suffisament ces régions pour nous conseiller un itinéraire ou des zones à explorer ?

Merci

Laurent et Wei

Hi everyone,

This trip report covers a journey along the Silk Road in China (see detailed description below) undertaken in October 2025. The goal isn’t to recount the trip but to provide information that might help those who want to take a similar journey. Much of the information is valid for any trip to China.

Who we are: a retired couple, aged 63 and 65 (age gives discounts on entry to various sites and museums in China, which is why I won’t list prices here—I don’t know them, but you can easily find them online). We’re used to traveling independently. We speak English, which is the only foreign language spoken in China, though by very few people. I speak and read a little Chinese, which helped, but you can easily get by without it (without any English at all, I think it would be more difficult).

Period: We arrived just after "Golden Week," when all of China is on vacation, and after the summer, when schools are out, so we encountered very few tourists (99.99% of whom were Chinese). Our experience with booking visits in advance (which we didn’t need to do) isn’t representative for those who want to travel in the summer! The October-November period was perfect for our trip—it wasn’t too hot or too cold (one day of snow on the Tibetan Plateau), though it was only a few degrees on the Tibetan part, with altitudes between 2,000 and 3,000 meters. The trees were beautifully colored.

General remarks: Everyone we dealt with was very kind and perfectly honest. If you order a meal without really understanding what to do and the person modifies your order, trust them—the result is what you need. If a taxi driver signals that they’ll wait for you to finish your visit and pick you up afterward, trust them. It means there aren’t many taxis where you are, and it’ll be more convenient. For prices at street vendors, we always found the right ballpark, and sometimes they even added a little extra to please us. A taxi driver treated us to lunch, and an employee drove us back to the hotel after a visit because there were no taxis. If you struggle to buy a ticket online because there’s no counter, someone will come to help. People even spontaneously ask if everything’s okay and if you need anything.

Everywhere we went was very clean, including restrooms (trains, stations, hotels, museums, tourist sites) and streets. The old stereotypes about this no longer apply.

The trip can be challenging for those who have difficulty walking. The distances to cover on foot in stations, to access sites, and within the sites themselves can sometimes be really long.

We used the Lonely Planet guide in English (published at the end of August 2025) a little for preparation, but mostly relied on the internet.

Before leaving: No visa is needed for French citizens for stays under 30 days. You get a stamp on your passport upon arrival and departure, and the formalities themselves are very quick in both directions (excluding any potential queues). Just a photo and fingerprints upon arrival, and welcome to China’s facial recognition system.

Money: All your payments (see below) will go through your Visa card—there will be hundreds, including many payments of 20 cents to a few euros. So, you need an international option that allows unlimited card transactions. Since cash is rarely needed, the allowed number of ATM withdrawals can be low. We made 3 withdrawals totaling 800 € for a month and could have managed with just 2. The exchange rate charged on our Visa card was 12 € for 100 RMB (yuan).

Install the following apps on your smartphone before leaving (otherwise, you’ll only have access to the Chinese versions, if available): - Alipay, which is used to pay everywhere in China (details below). You need to link it to your credit card, then provide proof of identity by uploading a passport photo and completing a facial recognition session. Alipay gives access to Didi (China’s Uber), public transport (metro/bus), and can also translate phrases. - WeChat (Weixin in Chinese, pronounced *weishin*), which is also used for payments but also replaces WhatsApp. Unfortunately, to activate your account, you need someone who already has WeChat to sponsor you (preferably a Chinese person). We asked someone at our first accommodations to do this—no problem. By sharing your WeChat number with accommodations, they can send you messages that are automatically translated, and you can communicate with people thanks to the translation (translation to French is very poor; it’s much better in English, but unfortunately, WeChat detects your phone’s language). Alipay and WeChat are accepted almost everywhere, but some places only accept WeChat. - Amap, the international version of Baidu Maps, which replaces Google Maps (not at all up-to-date in China). The English names of hotels often have little to do with the Chinese names except for a phonetic resemblance. To find them on Amap, it’s best to copy the Chinese name found on your Trip reservation under "show address in Chinese." - A VPN. We had CyberGhost, which didn’t work, but according to other travelers, NordVPN and Windscribe do. Without a VPN, you can’t access Google services, on WhatsApp you can send and receive text but not photos, and you can’t send or receive emails on Gmail addresses. We managed without a VPN by using Firefox as a browser and Bing as a search engine. - Trip, for booking trains and accommodations, and buying some tickets. It’s the equivalent of Booking for accommodations, but Booking has very few listings in China, while Trip has hundreds in every city. Most hotels and trains are exchangeable and refundable until the day before, with no or minimal fees.

You don’t need contactless (NFC) payment on your phone. Either you scan a barcode and enter the amount to pay, or you display a barcode, and they scan it with a scanner, and the amount is deducted directly.

Upon arrival: - Buy a Chinese SIM card: 100 RMB for 300 GB of data and several hours of talk time (we didn’t use it). Set the Chinese number as a reference on Alipay, WeChat, and Amap. - Find someone to sponsor you on WeChat.

Transportation: - **Plane**: China Eastern, Paris-Canton then Canton-Urumqi on the way out, and Xian-Canton then Canton-Paris on the way back. International flights were smooth, but the schedules for the two domestic flights were changed. It was fine on the way out because we had some leeway, but on the way back, we were notified the morning of that our flight was canceled and replaced with one that didn’t allow for the connection. We called and changed to an earlier flight (I think we were lucky to find available seats). - **Train**: Most long distances were covered by high-speed trains (called D or G in China) at 240 or 300 km/h. Second class is perfect—just as comfortable and clean as our TGVs. The only advantage of first class is the wider seats for larger people, but the downside is that seats are often booked in advance and thus less available. You can book trains long in advance on Trip, but they only go on sale in China 15 days before departure, so that’s when you’ll know if you have a ticket. Initially, we booked first class, but there were no seats available on the day, so we ended up booking everything in second class, which was perfect. There’s no paper ticket—if you’ve bought one, you go to the station, show your passport, and enter. You do the same to access the platform 15 minutes before the train, and that’s it. Our train was canceled twice, but no problem—we went to the ticket counter, got a refund, and were offered a replacement. It didn’t delay us by more than an hour (maybe it would be harder in peak season). For prices, check Trip.com, but it’s significantly cheaper than in France. - **Bus**: We took the bus between Xining and Tongren, Tongren to Xiahe, and Hezuo to Lanzhou—about 3 hours each time for 200 km, 6 € per person, and departures were right on time. - **Taxi**: For trips between the station and hotel, or hotel and visits. If you take a Didi via the Alipay app, you activate your location, enter your destination, and it offers several taxis. You accept, and you get the car’s license plate and its real-time position on the map. When you get in, the driver often asks for the last four digits of your phone number to confirm. Otherwise, you go to the taxi stand outside the station. The price per kilometer is around 20 cents, so for a 30 km trip from the station to the hotel, you’ll pay about 6 €. We never tried to save more by taking local buses, but since the metro in Xian costs 25 cents per trip, it’s probably in the same ballpark. Amap provides public transport routes like Google Maps. - **Driver**: We hired a taxi/driver for the day several times for sightseeing. Prices ranged from 350 to 1,000 RMB (the most expensive was arranged through the Sofitel Xining concierge) for trips ranging from a few hours to a full day, sometimes covering over 300 km (see the detailed trip description).

Accommodations: All booked in advance on Trip, but several were changed during the trip. Off-season, there were no issues. We mostly stayed in upscale places, but in China, that means 50 to 60 € per night in the most central or convenient neighborhood. Note: Almost all hotels have a 5/5 rating on Trip, but it seems the Chinese avoid giving lower ratings to be polite. So, you have to read the comments to realize that in France, we might have given a 2 or 3!

Food: At the table, you’re served hot water or a hot infusion, presumably made with purified water. We never got sick from drinking it, but don’t drink tap water. Purified or mineral water is easy to find.

In restaurants, you can manage by pointing to the dish you want from another diner, on the wall where there are photos, or on the menu with pictures. The food in the region isn’t often spicy, and people usually ask or signal before adding the red spicy sauce, so you should be able to handle it if you don’t like chili at all.

The "fake old quarters" in several cities are great places to find all kinds of restaurants (see detailed trip below).

Like Google Maps, Amap can show you nearby restaurants.

Shopping: For dried fruits, buy them in Turfan—you won’t find the same variety and quality even in Xian. Generally, if you like something, buy it. If you wait, you might not find it outside the region where you are.

In Xian, there’s a "Tea City" where you can find all kinds of tea (from cheap to very expensive).

The trip in more detail: I won’t dwell on the beauty or interest of the sites here since that’s a matter of personal taste. However, I will do so for lesser-known places to give an idea to those who might be interested.

For many sites, there are shuttles (sometimes not included in the ticket price but costing around 1 €) that take you to the interesting spots. We always took them—it saves you from walking past countless shops or along uninteresting paths.

- **Urumqi**: We spent only one night there, arriving in the middle of the afternoon and leaving the next morning. We stayed at the Dana Hotel in the bazaar. Given the size of the city, it’s a good option because I don’t think there are many other interesting places. The bazaar is brand new and not at all "typical" (Turfan’s bazaar is infinitely more interesting), but the dining area is very nice.

- **Turfan**: Stayed at the New Dap Hostel, which was great. The neighborhood is nice, not far from the city, and easy to find food. The museum is closed until 2026 (Amap provides museum hours and closures). We took a day trip (for the two of us) with a driver to the Bezeklik Caves, Flaming Mountains, the abandoned city of Gaochang, the Tuyuk Village Museum, and the Emin Minaret for 500 RMB from 9 AM to 8 PM (arranged by the hostel). The landscape during the excursion was quite fabulous. We also visited the Karez Museum and the abandoned city of Jiaohe on our own the next day. At this time of year, the sun sets around 6 PM, and there’s often haze after 5 PM, so for Jiaohe, for example, which takes about 3 hours to visit, it’s best to be there by 1 or 2 PM at the latest.

The Dahua Market area is perfect for dried fruits (including the famous grapes), and you can eat there among locals in their traditional costumes. Next to it, there are buildings full of shops selling made-in-China items—it kept us busy for a good half-day, if not more.

- **Dunhuang**: Stayed in a guesthouse near the dunes—the city center isn’t far but seems quite artificial. Visited the dunes, with a ticket valid for 3 days. Lots of Chinese tourists—very typical and interesting from an ethnological perspective 😊. We got up early one morning to climb the highest dune, just beyond the one everyone goes to. It’s a bit long and tiring, but the view is worth it. Visited the Mogao Caves, buying the ticket on-site (no chance in season without booking in advance). We met two other French people and got a French-speaking guide (by pretending not to understand English). It was really worth it—a group of 4 instead of 20, and they took their time (2 hours) for the visit. We took a day trip to the Yulin Caves (2.5 hours by road and 160 km one way) with a driver for 350 RMB. We liked it a lot, but if the Mogao Caves are enough for you, it’s not very different.

- **Jiayuguan**: Stayed in a city-center hotel. Visited the Wei and Jin tombs (actually just one)—that’s where we were told the taxi should wait to take us back to the city. We went down into a crypt with lots of decorated bricks from the 3rd century. We really liked it, but it’s not as spectacular as the fort if you’re not a fan. Visited the Jiayuguan Fort and, with the same ticket, climbed a small section of the Great Wall 10 km away. Plan at least 3 good hours for all this—there’s plenty to see.

- **Zhangye**: Stayed at The Silk Road Travelers Hostel, rustic but very nice and organizes excursions. Visited the Danxia (colored mountains)—just as spectacular as the photos. You can easily spend 3 hours there, so plan to finish before sunset to avoid the haze (you can always stay longer for the sunset if the weather’s nice). The next day, visited the Mati Si Temple in the cliff. The 10,000 Buddha Caves are under renovation, but the setting and the main temple are well worth the visit (the paths through the cliff tunnels must be hellish in peak season). You can probably organize these two excursions yourself by asking any taxi driver. Also visited the Giant Buddha Temple in the city center—really worth it.

- **Xining**: Stayed in a city-center hotel. Visited the Tibetan Medicine Museum to see the world’s largest thangka (1 km long), made over 40 years by renowned artists. It’s absolutely magnificent, on par with the virtuosity (but over 1 km) of the thangkas painted by famous artists in Xiahe (see below). Hired a female taxi driver for the day to visit Kumbum Monastery (Ta’er Si in Chinese) and the Danxia area in Guide, 50 km beyond the monastery. It’s less spectacular than Zhangye’s Danxia, but we really liked it (including the journey’s landscape). The next day, visited the old Ming-era Qutan Monastery—no visitors, with beautiful murals (half under renovation). Accessible by train to Haidong or Ledu, then a taxi. Xining’s mosque is of no interest, but there’s a pedestrian street with food stalls nearby that’s very nice.

- **Tongren**: Stayed near the main monastery. Visited Longwu Monastery (several hours), with lots of nice shops along the street leading to it. Then visited Wutun Monastery, which is less lively but beautiful and close to thangka workshops. You can go in and watch the painters at work. For a thangka made by a renowned artist, count about a year of work for 1 m² and around 10,000 €.

- **Xiahe**: Stayed in a city-center hotel. Visited Labrang Monastery—very nice but not as much as Tongren’s because many halls were closed. I think it’s better to go in season and take an English-guided tour (but it’s still worth the trip, even off-season).

- **Langmusi**: Took a taxi, but you can also take a bus (though very early in the morning and longer). Particularly beautiful for us because we woke up to bright sunshine and 5 cm of snow everywhere. Visited the two temples (really nice) and did the classic hike in the gorges starting at the Fairy Cave. For those interested, we continued along the canyon path, and after the meadow where marmots are clearly visible in summer, we climbed toward a pass on the left at 3,800 meters. The view of Langmusi and, above all, the vast grasslands and distant mountains was fabulous (3 hours round trip from the temple). You could probably reach the 4,000-meter summit by continuing up the valley instead of turning left, but according to guides, it’s better to count 7 hours round trip (no technical difficulty). You can leave Langmusi by bus, but off-season, you first have to take a taxi to a stop outside the city and wait for the bus. We didn’t try and took a taxi to Hezuo instead.

Note on this region: A high-speed train is under construction from Xining to Langmusi and beyond (never seen such an impressive construction site!). When it’s operational (in one or two years, I think), access to the area will be revolutionized, and perhaps some of the charm will be lost.

- **Hezuo**: Stopped on the way from Langmusi to Lanzhou. Visited the Milarepa Pagoda, entirely destroyed during the Cultural Revolution and since rebuilt. We liked it since we were passing through, but it doesn’t necessarily justify a long detour.

- **Lanzhou**: Reached by one of the many buses from Hezuo. Stayed in the "fake old quarter," which is extremely pleasant, especially in the evening with restaurants, groups of Chinese women dancing to loud music, etc. Visited Bingling Si with a driver, 120 km away—the landscape and site are absolutely magnificent, with no one around at our time of year. Visited the Gansu Museum (where the famous Flying Horse is, but it’s a replica). We bought the ticket on entry, but in season, you probably need to book in advance.

- **Yinchuan**: Stayed in the city center. A city we discovered by chance in the Lonely Planet—worth it if you have time. On the way, we stopped for a few hours in Zhongwei, where there’s an incredible Taoist temple (I’ll let you be surprised). Visited the Western Xia tombs—we took the short option, which visits Tomb 3. We think the others are similar but less impressive. The surrounding landscape and site are quite spectacular. Visited the film sets (really fun if you like Chinese movies), the short but interesting Ningxia Museum, and finally the modern art museum. The architecture is avant-garde, and there are some beautiful works (we like it, but it’s far from the center—hire a driver who waits, or you might have to wait for an employee to offer a ride back).

- **Tianshui**: Stayed in the suburbs, but you should find a hotel near the "fake old quarter" between the Fu Xi Temples and the Taoist temple—it’s a very nice area, and the two temples (especially the Taoist one) are within walking distance. Visited the Maijishan Caves—the ticket includes the shuttle to get there. Took a taxi from Lanzhou for about 10 € in 45 minutes. We found these caves fabulous.

- **Xi’an**: Stayed 500 meters from the Bell Tower at Hantang Inn—very convenient. We’d been before, so we didn’t revisit the Terracotta Army. The calligraphy district is worth it, as is the Muslim Quarter, though it’s very touristy. The area indicated on the Lonely Planet’s walking tour near the old fruit and vegetable market isn’t very interesting. To buy tea, you can go to the Northwest International Tea City, with dozens of shops. We chose one at random, tasted, and bought various teas. There’s everything from cheap to extremely expensive, but you can find reasonable prices even in seemingly luxurious shops. Along the street north of this area, there are large stores with tons of Chinese goods selling dishes, wedding items, etc. We spent hours there. In the city center, there are only malls with more or less international brands.

- **Longmen Grottoes**: Visited as a round trip by high-speed train from Xian—1 hour 15 minutes to Longmen’s high-speed train station, and the site entrance is 15 minutes by taxi.

We didn’t go to Mount Hua Shan, but there’s a high-speed train station nearby, and there were people on the train who were clearly going there. So, you can probably do this excursion in a day from Xian as well.

Conclusion: We hope this report makes you want to go or helps you if you’re already planning to. If you have questions that you can’t find the answer to by searching properly online and we can answer, don’t hesitate.

We just spent three weeks in Yunnan. I’ve started writing up a travel journal about the trip.