To chat about the side topics of the theme "Fish," this is the place!
Back to the contest theme: Fish: April 2025 Photo Contest Theme
This is where you can chat about bridges... let’s get the conversation started! 😊
Pour discuter autour du concours de juillet 2020, Verticale(s), ça se passe ici.
Here’s the theme for the lovely month of May—no worries, it won’t be lilies of the valley! 😄
This month’s theme is: “Reflection(s)” This leaves a pretty wide scope: reflections in water, of course, but also in windows, on buildings... I’ll leave it to your imagination, but the reflection should be clearly visible.
If this theme has been used before, it doesn’t matter. It’s getting tricky to find new themes that can attract as many participants as possible.
I’m currently in northern Finland and don’t have access to my hard drives, so I’ll add a few photos when I return to France. Here’s just one I took with my smartphone yesterday late afternoon:
Practical details:
Participation: Each VF member can submit up to 3 photos, until Monday, May 26 at 11:59 PM Paris time. Each photo must be posted in a separate message, with its number (1, 2, or 3). Don’t forget to add a little explanation (comment, location, etc.).
Voting: Each VF member can vote for the 3 photos they consider the best, based on their own criteria and the theme.
Voting will take place from Tuesday, May 27 to Saturday, May 31 at 11:59 PM Paris time.
The selected photos will be ranked in order of preference: - 1st photo: 3 points - 2nd: 2 points - 3rd: 1 point
The winner is the author of the photo with the most points.
Results will be published on June 1. In case of a tie, the number of first-place votes will decide. The winner will have the honor of organizing the June 2025 contest.
Photos that have already been nominated (1st, 2nd, or 3rd) in another contest are not eligible for this one.
This thread is exclusively for photos submitted to the contest. Any discussions or comments should be posted in the following thread: https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=10707526;a=10707526
This month’s theme is: “Reflection(s)” This leaves a pretty wide scope: reflections in water, of course, but also in windows, on buildings... I’ll leave it to your imagination, but the reflection should be clearly visible.
If this theme has been used before, it doesn’t matter. It’s getting tricky to find new themes that can attract as many participants as possible.
I’m currently in northern Finland and don’t have access to my hard drives, so I’ll add a few photos when I return to France. Here’s just one I took with my smartphone yesterday late afternoon:
Practical details:
Participation: Each VF member can submit up to 3 photos, until Monday, May 26 at 11:59 PM Paris time. Each photo must be posted in a separate message, with its number (1, 2, or 3). Don’t forget to add a little explanation (comment, location, etc.).
Voting: Each VF member can vote for the 3 photos they consider the best, based on their own criteria and the theme.
Voting will take place from Tuesday, May 27 to Saturday, May 31 at 11:59 PM Paris time.
The selected photos will be ranked in order of preference: - 1st photo: 3 points - 2nd: 2 points - 3rd: 1 point
The winner is the author of the photo with the most points.
Results will be published on June 1. In case of a tie, the number of first-place votes will decide. The winner will have the honor of organizing the June 2025 contest.
Photos that have already been nominated (1st, 2nd, or 3rd) in another contest are not eligible for this one.
This thread is exclusively for photos submitted to the contest. Any discussions or comments should be posted in the following thread: https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=10707526;a=10707526
From Southern Shikoku, between land and sea, to the blue waters of Miyakojima and finally Tokyo’s megacity
Hi everyone,
I have to admit, I really hesitated before deciding to write this travel journal... Writing one takes a lot of time and energy, and since this is my 4th trip, I wondered if it would actually interest anyone other than myself (both for the discovery and the writing). But after a few "Are you going to write a journal?" requests and especially the renewed pleasure from reading other travelers’ travel journals about Japan or elsewhere on this forum or elsewhere, I’ve decided to share this 4th installment in the Land of the Rising Sun here.
The itinerary: 27 full days, from late May to late June 2025, right in the middle of the rainy season, including:
-->13 days in Shikoku, from Kochi (Kochi Prefecture) to Matsuyama (Ehime Prefecture)
-->7 days in Miyakojima (Okinawa Prefecture)
-->7 days in Tokyo
The trip was decided on fairly last-minute this year, as usual.
I regularly check flight prices to track fluctuations for this destination, even without concrete plans. Finding a slightly cheaper direct flight (900 €) than what I’d seen in previous months (around 1,200–1,400 € on average) for a Paris-Tokyo route with Japanese airline ANA was too tempting to resist the urge to return to this enchanting country. After long hesitations between exploring the San’in region (Matsue, Tottori, Yamaguchi) and southern Shikoku, the decision was made—I took the plunge! The tickets are booked: Paris to Kochi with a layover in Tokyo, all with ANA, the airline I’d been dreaming of... for 1,120 € per person. Okay, it’s not cheap, but it’s still better than in 2023.
We leave in 2 weeks!! Now it’s just a matter of getting everything ready!
Intense work ahead in these 2 weeks to:
finalize a more precise itinerary and reach an agreement—yep, because even though we both love Japan, our preferences differ slightly, and we have to choose between exploring new places or taking time to revisit beloved spots... decide how much time to spend in each selected area without rushing while still exploring research places that might interest us and watch videos about Japan book accommodations: yes, it’s possible to do this on the spot as we go, but last year, we noticed that last-minute options were pretty expensive, so we’re booking ahead—even if it means keeping a few options open while we decide or see if better deals pop up later reserve rental cars order yen check the weather regularly and wonder if choosing the *tsuyu* (rainy season) was really a good idea—and whether we’ll be stuck in non-stop rain???
What a tough job, right? Traveling to Japan for a month—such a hard life! Despite this being my 4th trip, the excitement is just as intense as the first time.
The only small downside is that when we booked the flight tickets, there were only a few seats left, so we’re only sitting together on the international return flight. Plus, on the outbound flight, we’ve got the middle seats. Another lingering question: what French-language films will be available? According to the internet, the selection seems limited. Oh well, these are just minor details—it’s almost time to fly!
PS: I’ll be posting slowly and irregularly... so for those interested, be patient or maybe set an alert...
Hi everyone,
I have to admit, I really hesitated before deciding to write this travel journal... Writing one takes a lot of time and energy, and since this is my 4th trip, I wondered if it would actually interest anyone other than myself (both for the discovery and the writing). But after a few "Are you going to write a journal?" requests and especially the renewed pleasure from reading other travelers’ travel journals about Japan or elsewhere on this forum or elsewhere, I’ve decided to share this 4th installment in the Land of the Rising Sun here.
The itinerary: 27 full days, from late May to late June 2025, right in the middle of the rainy season, including:
-->13 days in Shikoku, from Kochi (Kochi Prefecture) to Matsuyama (Ehime Prefecture)
-->7 days in Miyakojima (Okinawa Prefecture)
-->7 days in Tokyo
The trip was decided on fairly last-minute this year, as usual.
I regularly check flight prices to track fluctuations for this destination, even without concrete plans. Finding a slightly cheaper direct flight (900 €) than what I’d seen in previous months (around 1,200–1,400 € on average) for a Paris-Tokyo route with Japanese airline ANA was too tempting to resist the urge to return to this enchanting country. After long hesitations between exploring the San’in region (Matsue, Tottori, Yamaguchi) and southern Shikoku, the decision was made—I took the plunge! The tickets are booked: Paris to Kochi with a layover in Tokyo, all with ANA, the airline I’d been dreaming of... for 1,120 € per person. Okay, it’s not cheap, but it’s still better than in 2023.
We leave in 2 weeks!! Now it’s just a matter of getting everything ready!
Intense work ahead in these 2 weeks to:
finalize a more precise itinerary and reach an agreement—yep, because even though we both love Japan, our preferences differ slightly, and we have to choose between exploring new places or taking time to revisit beloved spots... decide how much time to spend in each selected area without rushing while still exploring research places that might interest us and watch videos about Japan book accommodations: yes, it’s possible to do this on the spot as we go, but last year, we noticed that last-minute options were pretty expensive, so we’re booking ahead—even if it means keeping a few options open while we decide or see if better deals pop up later reserve rental cars order yen check the weather regularly and wonder if choosing the *tsuyu* (rainy season) was really a good idea—and whether we’ll be stuck in non-stop rain???
What a tough job, right? Traveling to Japan for a month—such a hard life! Despite this being my 4th trip, the excitement is just as intense as the first time.
The only small downside is that when we booked the flight tickets, there were only a few seats left, so we’re only sitting together on the international return flight. Plus, on the outbound flight, we’ve got the middle seats. Another lingering question: what French-language films will be available? According to the internet, the selection seems limited. Oh well, these are just minor details—it’s almost time to fly!
PS: I’ll be posting slowly and irregularly... so for those interested, be patient or maybe set an alert...
Hello everyone,
I’ve wanted to take this Norway cruise for a very long time. The first time I booked it was in July 2020 with Azamara. Unfortunately, it was canceled, as everyone remembers. When I tried to book it again, the prices (already a bit high with Azamara) had simply doubled. So, since then, I’ve been keeping an eye out every year for any opportunities...
The last time we sailed with Princess was eleven years ago, and things didn’t go very well. I came back pretty unhappy with their service and quite disappointed. Despite the $600 they gave me as credit for a future cruise, I’d never set foot on one of their ships again.
But this time, the opportunity arose—a fantastic itinerary with lots of stops, a reasonable price for 16 nights (I’ll share the details in the conclusion), and a ship that’s not too big, so to speak, with only 3,000 passengers. I’m not expecting much from the cruise line this time and am boarding the ship with low expectations beyond the itinerary.
Princess has introduced an app to download before the cruise. It’s essential because online check-in is no longer available, and the agency doesn’t send a travel journal. Everything is done through the app. After completing the check-in on the app, we only know that we’ll need to pick up our key, the Medallion, at embarkation by following the blue line in the terminal and presenting our passport.
Up until our departure, the weather forecast for the coming week in Norway is disastrous—rain, rain, and more rain. It was pretty much the same two years ago before our Iceland cruise, and in the end, the weather turned out fine.
If you’re ready to embark on the Emerald Princess to discover this beautiful cruise and the stunning landscapes of Norway, let’s go!
Southampton - Sea day - Bergen - Olden - Åndalsnes - Sea day - Tromsø - Honningsvåg (North Cape) - Alta - Sea day - Molde - Trondheim - Two sea days - Edinburgh - Sea day - Southampton
I’ve wanted to take this Norway cruise for a very long time. The first time I booked it was in July 2020 with Azamara. Unfortunately, it was canceled, as everyone remembers. When I tried to book it again, the prices (already a bit high with Azamara) had simply doubled. So, since then, I’ve been keeping an eye out every year for any opportunities...
The last time we sailed with Princess was eleven years ago, and things didn’t go very well. I came back pretty unhappy with their service and quite disappointed. Despite the $600 they gave me as credit for a future cruise, I’d never set foot on one of their ships again.
But this time, the opportunity arose—a fantastic itinerary with lots of stops, a reasonable price for 16 nights (I’ll share the details in the conclusion), and a ship that’s not too big, so to speak, with only 3,000 passengers. I’m not expecting much from the cruise line this time and am boarding the ship with low expectations beyond the itinerary.
Princess has introduced an app to download before the cruise. It’s essential because online check-in is no longer available, and the agency doesn’t send a travel journal. Everything is done through the app. After completing the check-in on the app, we only know that we’ll need to pick up our key, the Medallion, at embarkation by following the blue line in the terminal and presenting our passport.
Up until our departure, the weather forecast for the coming week in Norway is disastrous—rain, rain, and more rain. It was pretty much the same two years ago before our Iceland cruise, and in the end, the weather turned out fine.
If you’re ready to embark on the Emerald Princess to discover this beautiful cruise and the stunning landscapes of Norway, let’s go!
Southampton - Sea day - Bergen - Olden - Åndalsnes - Sea day - Tromsø - Honningsvåg (North Cape) - Alta - Sea day - Molde - Trondheim - Two sea days - Edinburgh - Sea day - Southampton
This catchy and somewhat mysterious title comes from several questions I’ve been asking myself.
VF has been back open for a reasonable number of weeks and months now. The number of visitors overall matches past averages, but the number of members online in the last 24 hours seems relatively lower than what we used to see.
Yet, to my surprise, I’m seeing fewer travel journals, way fewer messages, and way fewer questions. I don’t see many new registered users online, and I notice a number of members who are logged in but either aren’t participating or have stopped participating.
Something’s not adding up for me because, in my opinion, VF is still appealing, and I don’t see which other sites could really compete.
Was there a real break between pre- and post-Covid? Does it just take more time for some people to discover the site or learn that it’s active again? Do people now prefer quick consumption on sites like FB or others I’m not familiar with? Where have the site’s old-timers gone, and what are they doing with their time now? What’s really going on here?
VF has been back open for a reasonable number of weeks and months now. The number of visitors overall matches past averages, but the number of members online in the last 24 hours seems relatively lower than what we used to see.
Yet, to my surprise, I’m seeing fewer travel journals, way fewer messages, and way fewer questions. I don’t see many new registered users online, and I notice a number of members who are logged in but either aren’t participating or have stopped participating.
Something’s not adding up for me because, in my opinion, VF is still appealing, and I don’t see which other sites could really compete.
Was there a real break between pre- and post-Covid? Does it just take more time for some people to discover the site or learn that it’s active again? Do people now prefer quick consumption on sites like FB or others I’m not familiar with? Where have the site’s old-timers gone, and what are they doing with their time now? What’s really going on here?
Laundry day...
... and once the clothes are washed, they need to be hung out to dry.
Show us washerwomen, laundry workers, "Mère Denis" types, or "Mr. Clean" figures—scrubbing, wringing, spinning. In a laundry room, at the washhouse, or by the water’s edge. In a tub, a wash boiler, or even in the river. Whites and colors all mixed together—soaking, sudsing, rinsing, and splashing!
Show us wet laundry, drying clothes... Clothespins on a line, socks and little (or big!) underwear flying in the sun, clothes hanging from windows, sheets spread out on the grass, outfits drying near the stove...
The photos can include people, but you can also just show laundry, tubs, bundles, modern laundromats, or ancient washhouses... Anything related to this age-old, universal chore—traditionally left to one half of humanity while the other half leaves their dirty laundry lying around!
I invite you to share your (clean!) images from around the world until Sunday, January 21st at midnight. Maximum of 3 photos per participant (😛), each numbered and posted in a separate message. A caption would be great... Voting from Monday, January 22nd at 00:00 to Sunday, January 28th at midnight (Paris time). Results announced Monday, January 29th...
Vote for 3 photos, assigning 1, 2, or 3 points. No half-points for this edition. The photo with the most points gives its creator the honor (or burden!) of proposing a theme for February’s contest.
In case of a tie between two or even three participants, I propose—a perk of my temporary role—a slight tweak to the rules for this contest:
Clause #10177: In the event of a tie, the winner will be the person who has never organized a contest before or who has fewer previous terms as organizer than their tied counterparts. (Read slowly if you need to ;-))
The images are here, with Mr. Clean at the slideshow controls... 😊 photos.app.goo.gl/n0avmXB1FEtsPOvH3
More words here: Chit-chat at the washhouse
... and once the clothes are washed, they need to be hung out to dry.
Show us washerwomen, laundry workers, "Mère Denis" types, or "Mr. Clean" figures—scrubbing, wringing, spinning. In a laundry room, at the washhouse, or by the water’s edge. In a tub, a wash boiler, or even in the river. Whites and colors all mixed together—soaking, sudsing, rinsing, and splashing!
Show us wet laundry, drying clothes... Clothespins on a line, socks and little (or big!) underwear flying in the sun, clothes hanging from windows, sheets spread out on the grass, outfits drying near the stove...
The photos can include people, but you can also just show laundry, tubs, bundles, modern laundromats, or ancient washhouses... Anything related to this age-old, universal chore—traditionally left to one half of humanity while the other half leaves their dirty laundry lying around!
I invite you to share your (clean!) images from around the world until Sunday, January 21st at midnight. Maximum of 3 photos per participant (😛), each numbered and posted in a separate message. A caption would be great... Voting from Monday, January 22nd at 00:00 to Sunday, January 28th at midnight (Paris time). Results announced Monday, January 29th...
Vote for 3 photos, assigning 1, 2, or 3 points. No half-points for this edition. The photo with the most points gives its creator the honor (or burden!) of proposing a theme for February’s contest.
In case of a tie between two or even three participants, I propose—a perk of my temporary role—a slight tweak to the rules for this contest:
Clause #10177: In the event of a tie, the winner will be the person who has never organized a contest before or who has fewer previous terms as organizer than their tied counterparts. (Read slowly if you need to ;-))
The images are here, with Mr. Clean at the slideshow controls... 😊 photos.app.goo.gl/n0avmXB1FEtsPOvH3
More words here: Chit-chat at the washhouse
The 139th edition of this contest is now open, and this month’s theme is:
« Metal, Metallic».
From ore to rockets, wire to the Eiffel Tower—or in a pinch, even a self-portrait at the bottom of a spoon—the theme is broad enough that you should be able to come up with at least three ideas pretty easily! Sure, things might get tricky when it’s time to vote, but that could just be a sign of a successful contest, right?! But we’re not there yet.
Contest rules: You can post up to three photos, each in a separate message, clearly indicating their number (1, 2, or 3) along with the location where the photo was taken. Any explanations about your photos are welcome.
You’ll vote for three photos, clearly stating the name of the participant you’ve chosen, followed by the photo number. The first photo in your vote will receive three points, the second two points, and the third one point.
The winner will be the person whose photo earns the most points. In case of a tie, the winner will be the one with the most first-place votes—or, if still tied, the most second-place votes. Finally, if it’s a perfect tie, the winner will be the one who reached their score first. The winner will then have the pleasure of choosing the theme for the April 2026 contest and organizing it. Ties for any position other than first won’t be broken. Lastly, you don’t need to participate in the contest to vote. However, participants (and I hope there’ll be lots of you!) are strongly encouraged to vote!
Please only post contest photos in this thread, and starting Thursday, March 26 (00:01 Paris time), only votes.
Key dates: You can submit your photos starting today, Tuesday, March 3, 2026, until Wednesday, March 25, 2026 (23:59 Paris time). Voting will begin the minute after and end on Monday, March 30 (23:59 Paris time). Results will be announced on Tuesday, March 31, 2026 ... if all goes well!
A discussion thread for this contest is open HERE: The photorama can be found HERE
From ore to rockets, wire to the Eiffel Tower—or in a pinch, even a self-portrait at the bottom of a spoon—the theme is broad enough that you should be able to come up with at least three ideas pretty easily! Sure, things might get tricky when it’s time to vote, but that could just be a sign of a successful contest, right?! But we’re not there yet.
Contest rules: You can post up to three photos, each in a separate message, clearly indicating their number (1, 2, or 3) along with the location where the photo was taken. Any explanations about your photos are welcome.
You’ll vote for three photos, clearly stating the name of the participant you’ve chosen, followed by the photo number. The first photo in your vote will receive three points, the second two points, and the third one point.
The winner will be the person whose photo earns the most points. In case of a tie, the winner will be the one with the most first-place votes—or, if still tied, the most second-place votes. Finally, if it’s a perfect tie, the winner will be the one who reached their score first. The winner will then have the pleasure of choosing the theme for the April 2026 contest and organizing it. Ties for any position other than first won’t be broken. Lastly, you don’t need to participate in the contest to vote. However, participants (and I hope there’ll be lots of you!) are strongly encouraged to vote!
Please only post contest photos in this thread, and starting Thursday, March 26 (00:01 Paris time), only votes.
Key dates: You can submit your photos starting today, Tuesday, March 3, 2026, until Wednesday, March 25, 2026 (23:59 Paris time). Voting will begin the minute after and end on Monday, March 30 (23:59 Paris time). Results will be announced on Tuesday, March 31, 2026 ... if all goes well!
A discussion thread for this contest is open HERE: The photorama can be found HERE
Many of us longtime members surely remember the little frieze of monuments that used to decorate the top of VF pages.
Eiffel Tower, Statue of Liberty, Taj Mahal...
The famous must-see icons of architectural heritage!
Today, I’m inviting you to dig through your archives and share 3 photos of these international stars made of stone, marble, concrete, or steel.
I can already hear some of you protesting that this theme isn’t very original.
Well, it’s up to you to think outside the box...
So the monument doesn’t have to be the original. It could be its twin in Las Vegas, a matchstick replica made by Uncle Bob, a piece of jewelry, a gorgeous snow globe made in China, and so on.
The monument can be photographed from above, below, in the rain, as a reflection...
Deserted or swarming with visitors...
Montages are also allowed! 😉
In short, a classic topic that’ll become original thanks to your creative take.
Now, there are still 3 rules:
- No selfies (But a photo showing people taking selfies in front of a monument is allowed...🤪)
- Once a monument has been posted by someone, no one else can post it again. I don’t want to see the same thing 10 times...😊
- The theme isn’t about the monument’s originality. Please don’t post a photo of a monument known only to you or almost no one...😏
You can post your photos (one per message) until January 21, 2015, at 11:55 PM
Voting will take place from January 22, 2015, at 12:05 AM to January 29, 2015, at 11:55 PM.
During the vote, you’ll choose your 3 favorite photos, awarding 3 points to your top pick, 2 to your second, and 1 to your third.
Please clearly indicate the photographer’s name and the number of the winning photo!
For the rest, I’m using Cocottte’s rules:
The winner is the one with the most points. In case of a tie, the winner will be the one with the most first-place votes, or, if still tied, the most second-place votes. If there’s a perfect tie, the winner will be the one who reached their score first. The winner will then choose a theme for February’s contest and organize it. Ties for any place other than first won’t be broken.
You can vote without participating, participate without voting, or do neither. Slideshow
Finally, here’s the little off-topic link where all your comments and other expressions of good humor are welcome!
Eiffel Tower, Statue of Liberty, Taj Mahal...
The famous must-see icons of architectural heritage!
Today, I’m inviting you to dig through your archives and share 3 photos of these international stars made of stone, marble, concrete, or steel.
I can already hear some of you protesting that this theme isn’t very original.
Well, it’s up to you to think outside the box...
So the monument doesn’t have to be the original. It could be its twin in Las Vegas, a matchstick replica made by Uncle Bob, a piece of jewelry, a gorgeous snow globe made in China, and so on.
The monument can be photographed from above, below, in the rain, as a reflection...
Deserted or swarming with visitors...
Montages are also allowed! 😉
In short, a classic topic that’ll become original thanks to your creative take.
Now, there are still 3 rules:
- No selfies (But a photo showing people taking selfies in front of a monument is allowed...🤪)
- Once a monument has been posted by someone, no one else can post it again. I don’t want to see the same thing 10 times...😊
- The theme isn’t about the monument’s originality. Please don’t post a photo of a monument known only to you or almost no one...😏
You can post your photos (one per message) until January 21, 2015, at 11:55 PM
Voting will take place from January 22, 2015, at 12:05 AM to January 29, 2015, at 11:55 PM.
During the vote, you’ll choose your 3 favorite photos, awarding 3 points to your top pick, 2 to your second, and 1 to your third.
Please clearly indicate the photographer’s name and the number of the winning photo!
For the rest, I’m using Cocottte’s rules:
The winner is the one with the most points. In case of a tie, the winner will be the one with the most first-place votes, or, if still tied, the most second-place votes. If there’s a perfect tie, the winner will be the one who reached their score first. The winner will then choose a theme for February’s contest and organize it. Ties for any place other than first won’t be broken.
You can vote without participating, participate without voting, or do neither. Slideshow
Finally, here’s the little off-topic link where all your comments and other expressions of good humor are welcome!
Hello! 🙂
January 2026 Here we go again for new adventures and the pleasure of sharing them with you here! First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who helped me with the preparations, even with some last-minute improvisations just days before departure. Thanks to Montagnard74, Jojoone1, Songsam, Attila, Dennis2, NadegerFERM, and the authors whose travel journals about Laos inspired me (Montagnard74, Muriel18, Mavietongs...).
In this story, written by Richard and illustrated by me, we’ll tell you about the journey of four friends: Catherine, Richard, Nathalie, and Bruno. A reinvented but overall successful trip, filled with discoveries and surprises, the scents of spices and frangipani flowers, (too) spicy food, sunsets, and... one big mess.
January 2026 Here we go again for new adventures and the pleasure of sharing them with you here! First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who helped me with the preparations, even with some last-minute improvisations just days before departure. Thanks to Montagnard74, Jojoone1, Songsam, Attila, Dennis2, NadegerFERM, and the authors whose travel journals about Laos inspired me (Montagnard74, Muriel18, Mavietongs...).
In this story, written by Richard and illustrated by me, we’ll tell you about the journey of four friends: Catherine, Richard, Nathalie, and Bruno. A reinvented but overall successful trip, filled with discoveries and surprises, the scents of spices and frangipani flowers, (too) spicy food, sunsets, and... one big mess.
As soon as I return to France, I catch myself thinking, "it’s better elsewhere."
Wherever we’ve been, I feel this lightness of living—less restriction, less pressure, less sadness—and I start dreaming of somewhere else, of living somewhere else, a simpler life, more authentic, with colors everywhere: markets, clothes, homes...!!! Meeting kindred spirits, genuine people, gentle and kind, and letting go of all this modernism, this technological rat race, the indifference toward others, the confinement, the racism against the elderly in France, against the poor, the weak, the beautiful... fleeing the news, politics, jealousy, meanness, stupidity, greed... And in my moments of clarity, I tell myself that every country, every city has its pros and cons, and that maybe the best of all worlds isn’t down here. But I also remind myself that you have to know how to COME BACK in order to LEAVE again... yet still...!!! IS IT REALLY BETTER ELSEWHERE?😏😏😏
Hi everyone.
Because that’s also what sparks the desire in every traveler (well, at least for me) to set foot on Australian soil: discovering a new continent.
Right now, I’ve got some time on my hands—those who follow me know that. A nasty muscle tear (which really doesn’t want to heal) is keeping me grounded for another week, so I’ve decided to open a new travel journal, recounting my recent trip from December 14, 2024, to January 12, 2025, in Australia.
The origins of this trip started last May in Crete, an island I chose for a 10-day break. It’s really lovely, by the way, but that’s not the point… It’s around this time every year that we decide on our next winter destination, and Argentina was at the top of the list—Sydney wasn’t even on the radar… I’d been looking at flights to Buenos Aires for a while, and the prices were shocking… But by the pool one lazy afternoon, scrolling on my iPhone, a promo from Geneva to Sydney caught my eye. The deal ticked two boxes on my traveler’s bucket list: a flight to Australia and a flight with Singapore Airlines, often ranked as the world’s best airline. A quick chat with the missus (well, of course!) and the decision was made: off to the land of kangaroos! Now, once you add luggage and Economy Plus, it still comes to 1600 € per person, but that’s a reasonable price. Either way, we already know what we’re in for—Australia is a budget commitment!
Thanks to 123rf for the image loan 😛
Right now, I’ve got some time on my hands—those who follow me know that. A nasty muscle tear (which really doesn’t want to heal) is keeping me grounded for another week, so I’ve decided to open a new travel journal, recounting my recent trip from December 14, 2024, to January 12, 2025, in Australia.
The origins of this trip started last May in Crete, an island I chose for a 10-day break. It’s really lovely, by the way, but that’s not the point… It’s around this time every year that we decide on our next winter destination, and Argentina was at the top of the list—Sydney wasn’t even on the radar… I’d been looking at flights to Buenos Aires for a while, and the prices were shocking… But by the pool one lazy afternoon, scrolling on my iPhone, a promo from Geneva to Sydney caught my eye. The deal ticked two boxes on my traveler’s bucket list: a flight to Australia and a flight with Singapore Airlines, often ranked as the world’s best airline. A quick chat with the missus (well, of course!) and the decision was made: off to the land of kangaroos! Now, once you add luggage and Economy Plus, it still comes to 1600 € per person, but that’s a reasonable price. Either way, we already know what we’re in for—Australia is a budget commitment!
Thanks to 123rf for the image loan 😛
Since I don’t have time to come up with an original theme, I’m suggesting a broad, international topic: religious buildings around the world. Given how vast the subject is, I’d like us to focus on photos of exteriors—wide shots or details. Interiors, which are just as varied, could be the subject of another contest.
A few of my own photos, just to give you an idea:
A few of my own photos, just to give you an idea:
You can post your personal photos in the following thread: https://voyageforum.com/forum/quelque-part-en-thailande-d10655574/
This travel journal is therefore intended solely for my photos, to present a consistent style. All the shots were taken with a simple Samsung Galaxy smartphone and with whatever was at hand.
All stays combined, I’ve spent the equivalent of three years at most in Thailand, and I’m not a big expert on the country. However, after many trips, lots of reading on VoyageForum and other sites, and conversations with many locals as well as expats, my view of the country is becoming clearer, though it’s constantly evolving. You never stop discovering and learning.
I guess I wanted to piece together a puzzle, mainly for those who want to get an idea of the country here and for those who miss it. I don’t know if this minimalist sharing will interest anyone, but it’ll do me good to put it together. After so many months without traveling and then these other long months with VF closed, there’s plenty of material available.
There’ll be a mix of places, periods, and subjects, but it might well be intentional.
I suspect many Thais have dogs because they make excellent guards for the home. Nothing better to deter burglars or to signal the presence of a snake. You’ll often see Thais tapping the top of their dog’s head, but don’t be fooled: it’s a sign of affection from them. Judging by the dogs’ reactions, they’re used to it.
Thailand is one of the countries on the planet where rabies is still present, so keep that in mind. It’s not just bites that can be dangerous, so don’t let just any dog lick you. Especially on a wound, of course. Even though dogs often fear humans—this dangerous and unpredictable predator—we still need to stay cautious. Be careful when walking into alleys because the dog will defend its master’s big property, be careful at night, and be careful when they’re in packs. It sometimes crosses our minds that Thailand isn’t really made for walking around, and dogs are one of the reasons. That said, it’s not uncommon to see them chasing bikes or scooters. Cars, though, are much rarer—they’re too big.
It seems Thais prefer to give their dogs freedom by not locking them behind gates. Though sometimes the gate is closed, the little side door is wide open. Oh, and sometimes there’s no gate in front of the property, or it’s been broken for years.
You’ll often see dogs sleeping on the side of the road, sometimes right on the road. When you arrive, they move aside nonchalantly—or not at all. It’s less funny when they suddenly appear from thick vegetation, which reminds visitors not to drive too fast. As a result, you’ll notice that dogs with injuries or missing legs aren’t that rare.
Since they believe in reincarnation and respect for all forms of life, they don’t chase dog packs away too much, and they don’t sterilize them enough. Seeing a small pack roaming freely in the countryside, you might think it’s best not to cross paths with them at the edge of a field. A darker side of this is that euthanasia isn’t often practiced. Twice, we saw dogs at temples on the brink of death, enduring terrible suffering. No one did anything about it. The image (and the smell) of one of them, dying and emitting the stench of death, still comes back to me sometimes.
Some of you may have seen the YouTube vlog of a French woman living in Phuket who was given a little pig by her Thai friends. The well-fed animal quickly became a happy, enormous beast with its own garden. Yet, it didn’t take long for it to fall seriously ill and become incurable. In her video, the French woman described how difficult it was to find a vet willing to perform euthanasia.
You’ll often see bowls by the side of the road. Thais leave food and water in them for stray cats and dogs. Overall, they have a big heart for animals.
If you ever pop into a shopping mall, you might see people pushing their small dogs in strollers. It’s not a gimmick—it’s just that these strollers are provided for customers to put their pets in, otherwise you can’t bring them inside. It looks a bit odd when you expect to see a baby.
This travel journal is therefore intended solely for my photos, to present a consistent style. All the shots were taken with a simple Samsung Galaxy smartphone and with whatever was at hand.
All stays combined, I’ve spent the equivalent of three years at most in Thailand, and I’m not a big expert on the country. However, after many trips, lots of reading on VoyageForum and other sites, and conversations with many locals as well as expats, my view of the country is becoming clearer, though it’s constantly evolving. You never stop discovering and learning.
I guess I wanted to piece together a puzzle, mainly for those who want to get an idea of the country here and for those who miss it. I don’t know if this minimalist sharing will interest anyone, but it’ll do me good to put it together. After so many months without traveling and then these other long months with VF closed, there’s plenty of material available.
There’ll be a mix of places, periods, and subjects, but it might well be intentional.
I suspect many Thais have dogs because they make excellent guards for the home. Nothing better to deter burglars or to signal the presence of a snake. You’ll often see Thais tapping the top of their dog’s head, but don’t be fooled: it’s a sign of affection from them. Judging by the dogs’ reactions, they’re used to it.
Thailand is one of the countries on the planet where rabies is still present, so keep that in mind. It’s not just bites that can be dangerous, so don’t let just any dog lick you. Especially on a wound, of course. Even though dogs often fear humans—this dangerous and unpredictable predator—we still need to stay cautious. Be careful when walking into alleys because the dog will defend its master’s big property, be careful at night, and be careful when they’re in packs. It sometimes crosses our minds that Thailand isn’t really made for walking around, and dogs are one of the reasons. That said, it’s not uncommon to see them chasing bikes or scooters. Cars, though, are much rarer—they’re too big.
It seems Thais prefer to give their dogs freedom by not locking them behind gates. Though sometimes the gate is closed, the little side door is wide open. Oh, and sometimes there’s no gate in front of the property, or it’s been broken for years.
You’ll often see dogs sleeping on the side of the road, sometimes right on the road. When you arrive, they move aside nonchalantly—or not at all. It’s less funny when they suddenly appear from thick vegetation, which reminds visitors not to drive too fast. As a result, you’ll notice that dogs with injuries or missing legs aren’t that rare.
Since they believe in reincarnation and respect for all forms of life, they don’t chase dog packs away too much, and they don’t sterilize them enough. Seeing a small pack roaming freely in the countryside, you might think it’s best not to cross paths with them at the edge of a field. A darker side of this is that euthanasia isn’t often practiced. Twice, we saw dogs at temples on the brink of death, enduring terrible suffering. No one did anything about it. The image (and the smell) of one of them, dying and emitting the stench of death, still comes back to me sometimes.
Some of you may have seen the YouTube vlog of a French woman living in Phuket who was given a little pig by her Thai friends. The well-fed animal quickly became a happy, enormous beast with its own garden. Yet, it didn’t take long for it to fall seriously ill and become incurable. In her video, the French woman described how difficult it was to find a vet willing to perform euthanasia.
You’ll often see bowls by the side of the road. Thais leave food and water in them for stray cats and dogs. Overall, they have a big heart for animals.
If you ever pop into a shopping mall, you might see people pushing their small dogs in strollers. It’s not a gimmick—it’s just that these strollers are provided for customers to put their pets in, otherwise you can’t bring them inside. It looks a bit odd when you expect to see a baby.
Hi everyone,
After my narrow victory over Herodotos (just one point ahead—I had a close call, even in December in the northern hemisphere!), I’m now honored to organize the next contest, the one for the closing year, whose results will be announced on the first day of the coming year. Out of affection for the poet with wind in his soles, who dreamed of ivory and setting sail, again and again, even in his final hours, I borrow the theme from the first line of a poem dear to me: I embraced the summer dawn.
So, as the year draws to a close, the theme will be: embracing dawn.
The verb here is just as important as the noun. More than just a subject about sunrises or that magical half-hour of pink light before the sun appears (a photographer’s nightmare: either I crank up the ISO and deal with noise, or I lug around a tripod, and say goodbye to spontaneity like a beggar on marble quays), this is about those happy little mornings—the thrill of joy in the soft light of the first hours, whether it’s a landscape, a person, an animal, a plant, architecture, or whatever else. What’s certain is that it makes you want to smile at the day breaking. Even if you go back to bed afterward.
Technical details (shamelessly borrowed from Ragamuffin, thanks!):
Participation Each VF member can submit up to 3 photos, until Wednesday, 12/25 at 11:59 PM, Milan time. Each photo must be posted in a separate message, with its number (1, 2, or 3). Don’t forget to add a little explanation (comment, location, etc.).
Voting: Each VF member can vote for the 3 photos they consider the best, based on their own criteria and the theme.
Voting will take place from Thursday, 12/26 to Tuesday, 12/31 at 11:59 PM, Milan time.
Selected photos will be ranked in order of preference: - 1st photo: 3 points - 2nd photo: 2 points - 3rd photo: 1 point
The winner is the author of the photo with the most points.
Results will be published on 01/01 (if I’m in any state to do so). In case of a tie, the number of first-place votes will decide. The winner will have the honor of organizing December’s contest.
For discussion, it’s here.
That’s all! Let’s welcome Dawn with rosy fingers, dressed in saffron...
Catherine
After my narrow victory over Herodotos (just one point ahead—I had a close call, even in December in the northern hemisphere!), I’m now honored to organize the next contest, the one for the closing year, whose results will be announced on the first day of the coming year. Out of affection for the poet with wind in his soles, who dreamed of ivory and setting sail, again and again, even in his final hours, I borrow the theme from the first line of a poem dear to me: I embraced the summer dawn.
So, as the year draws to a close, the theme will be: embracing dawn.
The verb here is just as important as the noun. More than just a subject about sunrises or that magical half-hour of pink light before the sun appears (a photographer’s nightmare: either I crank up the ISO and deal with noise, or I lug around a tripod, and say goodbye to spontaneity like a beggar on marble quays), this is about those happy little mornings—the thrill of joy in the soft light of the first hours, whether it’s a landscape, a person, an animal, a plant, architecture, or whatever else. What’s certain is that it makes you want to smile at the day breaking. Even if you go back to bed afterward.
Technical details (shamelessly borrowed from Ragamuffin, thanks!):
Participation Each VF member can submit up to 3 photos, until Wednesday, 12/25 at 11:59 PM, Milan time. Each photo must be posted in a separate message, with its number (1, 2, or 3). Don’t forget to add a little explanation (comment, location, etc.).
Voting: Each VF member can vote for the 3 photos they consider the best, based on their own criteria and the theme.
Voting will take place from Thursday, 12/26 to Tuesday, 12/31 at 11:59 PM, Milan time.
Selected photos will be ranked in order of preference: - 1st photo: 3 points - 2nd photo: 2 points - 3rd photo: 1 point
The winner is the author of the photo with the most points.
Results will be published on 01/01 (if I’m in any state to do so). In case of a tie, the number of first-place votes will decide. The winner will have the honor of organizing December’s contest.
For discussion, it’s here.
That’s all! Let’s welcome Dawn with rosy fingers, dressed in saffron...
Catherine
Hello! 🙂
In 2017, struck by western addiction, our first road trip gave us an irresistible urge to return, which we did from September 2nd to 24th, 2019, on a loop from Denver to Denver via Yellowstone. The westernmost point of this journey, which took us through the geographical center of the USA, brought us within about a hundred kilometers of Moab, which had been the easternmost point of our last trip.
We’ve been back for over a month now, and I realize I’m starting to forget some details—it’s high time I started my travel journal before my brain turns into Swiss cheese and lets everything slip away. As I mentioned in my last story, it’ll take me quite a while to finish, so if any travelers have specific questions, don’t hesitate to message me privately. Once again, I’d like to thank everyone who helped me (and there were many!) prepare our road trip, with a special shout-out to Disneydiddl, Hiacinthe, and Titou (ladies first) as well as Fred and Itat, whom I bombarded with questions for months and who always kindly and patiently gave me tons of great tips. It’s thanks to all of you that this trip was such a success. I was a little worried I wouldn’t recapture the emotion and enthusiasm of our 2017 trip, but this one was just as "Wow" as the last.
For those who don’t know us, let me introduce our little group. We’re four friends in our sixties (this time, everyone made it, which let us score some "senior" discounts...). We live in the Var region, have known each other for over 20 years, and this was our second trip together to this magical West.
Mimi (Michèle): always the smallest and the funniest. Thank goodness she was there to speak English! Maumau (Maurice): her husband, always with his white hair, his Gallic mustache, his humor, and his Southern accent. He drove every other day. DD (André): the one with the beard, with whom I celebrated our 41st wedding anniversary at Yellowstone. Our second driver appreciated having a peaceful mind since he’s been retired since July. Marcalamar (Martine): that’s me—still blonde with glasses, still talking a lot, and still terrified of messing up the organization of this trip despite all the hours spent on the forum.
Recognize us? Ha ha ha!!!! No, just kidding!!!!
That’s us!!!
In 2017, struck by western addiction, our first road trip gave us an irresistible urge to return, which we did from September 2nd to 24th, 2019, on a loop from Denver to Denver via Yellowstone. The westernmost point of this journey, which took us through the geographical center of the USA, brought us within about a hundred kilometers of Moab, which had been the easternmost point of our last trip.
We’ve been back for over a month now, and I realize I’m starting to forget some details—it’s high time I started my travel journal before my brain turns into Swiss cheese and lets everything slip away. As I mentioned in my last story, it’ll take me quite a while to finish, so if any travelers have specific questions, don’t hesitate to message me privately. Once again, I’d like to thank everyone who helped me (and there were many!) prepare our road trip, with a special shout-out to Disneydiddl, Hiacinthe, and Titou (ladies first) as well as Fred and Itat, whom I bombarded with questions for months and who always kindly and patiently gave me tons of great tips. It’s thanks to all of you that this trip was such a success. I was a little worried I wouldn’t recapture the emotion and enthusiasm of our 2017 trip, but this one was just as "Wow" as the last.
For those who don’t know us, let me introduce our little group. We’re four friends in our sixties (this time, everyone made it, which let us score some "senior" discounts...). We live in the Var region, have known each other for over 20 years, and this was our second trip together to this magical West.
Mimi (Michèle): always the smallest and the funniest. Thank goodness she was there to speak English! Maumau (Maurice): her husband, always with his white hair, his Gallic mustache, his humor, and his Southern accent. He drove every other day. DD (André): the one with the beard, with whom I celebrated our 41st wedding anniversary at Yellowstone. Our second driver appreciated having a peaceful mind since he’s been retired since July. Marcalamar (Martine): that’s me—still blonde with glasses, still talking a lot, and still terrified of messing up the organization of this trip despite all the hours spent on the forum.
Recognize us? Ha ha ha!!!! No, just kidding!!!!
That’s us!!!Je sais qu'il a déjà eu une discution la dessus mais je voudrais savoir si dernièrement il en a parmis vous qui ont apporté leur ami ou amie cubain à l'hôtel.
Je voulais apporter mon novio avec moi à l'hôtel car j'y vais une semaine avec ma famille, mais il me dit que la sécurité va le surveiller, que c'est compliqué, il veut pas vraiment venir.
Les Cubains sont souvent mal informé c'est pour ça que je veux vos commentaires.
Et pour ceux qui pourrait poser cette question, il s'est inscrit à plusieurs reprises en Casa à Matanzas avec moi.
J'attends vos réponses avec impatience.
Merci
Je voulais apporter mon novio avec moi à l'hôtel car j'y vais une semaine avec ma famille, mais il me dit que la sécurité va le surveiller, que c'est compliqué, il veut pas vraiment venir.
Les Cubains sont souvent mal informé c'est pour ça que je veux vos commentaires.
Et pour ceux qui pourrait poser cette question, il s'est inscrit à plusieurs reprises en Casa à Matanzas avec moi.
J'attends vos réponses avec impatience.
Merci
Bonjour à tous,
je prépare actuellement un voyage à travers le pérou avec un départ début avril et ce pour une durée de trois mois. Je souhaites rencontrer un shaman, curanderos, et suivre un enseignement et des sessions. Je me beaucoup renseigné mais j'aimerai savoir si quelqu'un connaitrait un guérisseur sérieux, et isolé. Je souhaites surtout à éviter les pièges à touristes comme ceux que l'on trouve à Iquitos, c'est-à-dire le truc à touristes où on paye trop cher pour une seule session microdosée en plein jour....ce que je ne veux surtout pas quoi.
Je voudrais trouver quelque chose dans un village ou une petite ville avec tres peu de touristes. Si vous avez des contacts je vous remercie d'avance de l'aide que vous m'apporterez.🙂
En mai, je vais visiter la famille de mon ex, qui est algérien. Nous avons eu un enfant et nous allons le présenter à sa famille. Ce qui m'inquiète beaucoup c'est le fait que en Algérie mon enfant est concidéré que comme un algérien et que le père a des droits suprêmes sur lui et que moi je ne vaux presque rien au sens de la loi et que je n'ai pas de droit sur mon enfant. Je fais confiance a mon ex mais je suis quand même craintive par rapport a cette situation car on ne sait jamais..... Nous avons rempli le formulaire pour le concentement parternel, pour que je puisse voyager a ma guise et revenir a dans mon pays s'il y a quelque chose, a l'embassade de l'Algérie mais ce n'est qu'un papier et j'avoue avoir beaucoup de difficulté a faire confiance à un système qui n'est pas égalitaire.
D'un autre côté, je ne veux pas empêcher mon ex de pouvoir faire connaître notre enfant à sa famille. J'ai aussi hâte d'aller les visiter et de visiter l'Algérie mais je suis inquiète...
Ceci étant ma situation, y a-t-il d'autres mesures que je pourrait prendre ?
Merci
D'un autre côté, je ne veux pas empêcher mon ex de pouvoir faire connaître notre enfant à sa famille. J'ai aussi hâte d'aller les visiter et de visiter l'Algérie mais je suis inquiète...
Ceci étant ma situation, y a-t-il d'autres mesures que je pourrait prendre ?
Merci
Lu sur midilibre.com. Édition du lundi 5 avril 2010.
Montpellier. « Non, Mada n'est pas dangereuse, venez ! »
http://www.midilibre.com/articles/2010/04/05/MONTPELLIER-Non-Mada-n-39-est-pas-dangereuse-venez-1177165.php5
Montpellier. « Non, Mada n'est pas dangereuse, venez ! »
http://www.midilibre.com/articles/2010/04/05/MONTPELLIER-Non-Mada-n-39-est-pas-dangereuse-venez-1177165.php5
Hello, Hello,
Je viens d'indiquer l'adresse de cette file à nos ami(e)s qui nous suivent sur le site et qui ne peuvent pas nous répondre puisque je suis incapable de créer un livre d'or. Je compte sur tous les gentils V-Forumeurs pour accueillir ceux qui voudront bien s'inscrire pour nous répondre ici.
Le site est à jour (sans les photos mais ca va venir jusqu'au départ pour CARRIZOZO !
Amicalement à tous, Bises tendres de l'Ouest Ninou
Je viens d'indiquer l'adresse de cette file à nos ami(e)s qui nous suivent sur le site et qui ne peuvent pas nous répondre puisque je suis incapable de créer un livre d'or. Je compte sur tous les gentils V-Forumeurs pour accueillir ceux qui voudront bien s'inscrire pour nous répondre ici.
Le site est à jour (sans les photos mais ca va venir jusqu'au départ pour CARRIZOZO !
Amicalement à tous, Bises tendres de l'Ouest Ninou
Bonjour tous,
Une petite remarque perso,
Certes, j'ai attrapé, comme beaucoup d'entre vous, le virus de l'ouest et celui de NYC.
Mais je reste stupéfait devant l'attrait que représentent ces deux destinations.
Regardant souvent certaines émissions de TV, avec argent à la clé, à la question : si vous gagniez 20.000 euros, qu'en feriez vous ? Majoritairement, les personnes répondent NYC ou les parcs de l'ouest américain.
Donc, nous qui avons eu la chance de voyager par là bas, et d'y retourner, en fait nous avons pu vivre, et nous vivons le ou les rêves de beaucoup.
Et c'est vrai que je considère que nous avons de la chance...
C'était ma petite remarque du jour, en attendant, dans trois mois, direction...LA et c'est reparti !
Bonne journée tout le monde.
bonjour a tous si je me permet de mettre un nouveau post sur un sujet 10000 fois rabattu est justement pour donner un élan un peut plus réaliste des membres qui veulent s'établir au pays du sourire perdu ..
perso je vois tellement de doux rêveurs qui désire s'implanter . ou pire qui le font .. avec des idées peut être géniales mais mal adapter .. que il serais bon que des membres donne des indications realistes .. des plans realistes .. des réussites réaliste .. car il n'y a rien de plus triste que de revoir sur vf ses membres haineux de ce pays simplement parce que ils ont rien compris de commet sa marche .. ou ont suivie leur instinct sans voir ce qui se passe réellement ..
je précise que je ne poste pas pour dire sa c'est bien et pas cela .. ( je le laisse aux autres .. ) simplement je suis ravi que des membres réussisse dans le coin ..
un exemple .. la restauration .. on se dit c'est facile .. mais très peut y arrivent .. je propose une idée .. la création de un moukata .. ces restos populaires qui sont quasiment plein ( de thais essentiellement ) .. pourquoi un étranger ne pourrais pas le faire ? bien il est possible .. je peut vous présenter un expert dans la matière .. il peut vous prendre en charge de a a z .. cette façon de voir les affaires est la bonne .. avoir un expert a ses côtés pour vous guider éviter les faux pas , les pièges . et prendre les raccourcis . ( anglais indispensable ...) ( je précise que je n'ai aucun intérêt financier je le fait car je suis persuadé que l'implantation est possible . si on suit certaines règles .. mon souhait est que ce post apporte des idées nouvelles .. realistes .. a bientôt .. thuan
un exemple .. la restauration .. on se dit c'est facile .. mais très peut y arrivent .. je propose une idée .. la création de un moukata .. ces restos populaires qui sont quasiment plein ( de thais essentiellement ) .. pourquoi un étranger ne pourrais pas le faire ? bien il est possible .. je peut vous présenter un expert dans la matière .. il peut vous prendre en charge de a a z .. cette façon de voir les affaires est la bonne .. avoir un expert a ses côtés pour vous guider éviter les faux pas , les pièges . et prendre les raccourcis . ( anglais indispensable ...) ( je précise que je n'ai aucun intérêt financier je le fait car je suis persuadé que l'implantation est possible . si on suit certaines règles .. mon souhait est que ce post apporte des idées nouvelles .. realistes .. a bientôt .. thuan
I'm currently converting a DAF/HEULIEZ MB205 bus.
Cheaper and more spacious than a regular vehicle, the paperwork (in France) isn't too difficult for approval.
I'm ready to help anyone who wants to tackle this kind of project. Those who know, help those who want to....
Cheaper and more spacious than a regular vehicle, the paperwork (in France) isn't too difficult for approval.
I'm ready to help anyone who wants to tackle this kind of project. Those who know, help those who want to....
Bonjour à tous,
Je viens régulièrement sur ce forum et j'ai déjà eu l'occasion de lire avec intérêt des discussions et des questionnement sur le voyage, la vie, l'argent, le travail etc…Ces thèmes reviennent souvent, normal qu'on est passionné de voyages car le voyage n'est pas une passion comme les autres, c'est aussi un mode de vie.
Mais il y a un thème qui revient rarement, ce qui m'étonne à vrai dire, c'est le rapport entre voyage et amour ou relation stable si vous voulez.
Ces derniers temps je m'interroge. Depuis 3, 4 ans, j'alterne cdd et voyages de 3, 4 mois. J'ai aussi eu la chance de décrocher une mission de travail en Afrique. De ce côté là, pour l'instant cela me convient.
La contrepartie c'est que j'ai du mal à avoir une relation stable. J'ai remarqué que bien souvent je sort avec des filles non disponibles évitant ainsi un engagement qui pourrais venire compremettre mes projets de voyages. Résulat, clea foire toujours. Des amies me disent que "c'est normal, trouves d'abord un cdi et voyage moins et tu rencontreras quelqu'un pour une relation sérieuse". Elles n'ont pas tort mais bon je ne me vois pas trop mettre entre parenthéses mes envies dans l'espoir incertain d'une rencontre. Je pense plutôt que c'est en faisant ce qu'on aime qu'on est plus à même de rencontrer quelqu'un qui vous correspond.
Mais il est vrai que les voyages au long cours c'est particulier. Vous allez me dire ok tu peut rencontrer des routardes en voyage. C'est vrai mais c'est en général superficiel et par définition une routarde est une femme indépendante qui va réfléchir à deux fois avant de se lancer dans une relation.
Bon je sais pas si je suis très claire mais je voulais avoir vos opinions sur le sujet. Les gros voyageurs, mettez-vous ce côté important de votre vie à côté? Dans la presse, on peut lire parfois des interviews d'aventuriers sur la chance qu'ils ont de vivre cela, mais rarement le journaliste ou l'intéresse aborde la vie personnelle qui est souvent "sacrifiée".
Merci pour vos pensées!
Fabrice
Je viens régulièrement sur ce forum et j'ai déjà eu l'occasion de lire avec intérêt des discussions et des questionnement sur le voyage, la vie, l'argent, le travail etc…Ces thèmes reviennent souvent, normal qu'on est passionné de voyages car le voyage n'est pas une passion comme les autres, c'est aussi un mode de vie.
Mais il y a un thème qui revient rarement, ce qui m'étonne à vrai dire, c'est le rapport entre voyage et amour ou relation stable si vous voulez.
Ces derniers temps je m'interroge. Depuis 3, 4 ans, j'alterne cdd et voyages de 3, 4 mois. J'ai aussi eu la chance de décrocher une mission de travail en Afrique. De ce côté là, pour l'instant cela me convient.
La contrepartie c'est que j'ai du mal à avoir une relation stable. J'ai remarqué que bien souvent je sort avec des filles non disponibles évitant ainsi un engagement qui pourrais venire compremettre mes projets de voyages. Résulat, clea foire toujours. Des amies me disent que "c'est normal, trouves d'abord un cdi et voyage moins et tu rencontreras quelqu'un pour une relation sérieuse". Elles n'ont pas tort mais bon je ne me vois pas trop mettre entre parenthéses mes envies dans l'espoir incertain d'une rencontre. Je pense plutôt que c'est en faisant ce qu'on aime qu'on est plus à même de rencontrer quelqu'un qui vous correspond.
Mais il est vrai que les voyages au long cours c'est particulier. Vous allez me dire ok tu peut rencontrer des routardes en voyage. C'est vrai mais c'est en général superficiel et par définition une routarde est une femme indépendante qui va réfléchir à deux fois avant de se lancer dans une relation.
Bon je sais pas si je suis très claire mais je voulais avoir vos opinions sur le sujet. Les gros voyageurs, mettez-vous ce côté important de votre vie à côté? Dans la presse, on peut lire parfois des interviews d'aventuriers sur la chance qu'ils ont de vivre cela, mais rarement le journaliste ou l'intéresse aborde la vie personnelle qui est souvent "sacrifiée".
Merci pour vos pensées!
Fabrice
Hello forum,
Did any of you feel the same things we did in China?
We spent a good twenty days there in August. First, we traveled solo around Chengdu, then joined an organized tour for 12 days (Beijing, Pingyao, Xi'an, Guilin, Xingping, Yangshuo, Shanghai, Wuzhen) and extended our stay by 4 extra days to visit Zhangjiajie.
The landscapes were stunning, and we have unforgettable memories... but we were really disappointed by the following points:
- The food: way too spicy. Lacking in flavor, not much taste. I’m speaking "in general" because we did enjoy some good steamed dumplings, smoked pork, and other dumplings... But compared to Thailand, Cambodia, or India, Chinese cuisine didn’t impress us at all.
- The behavior of the Chinese: disrespectful, rushed, agitated. You constantly have to fight—people push, crowd, and overwhelm you... At the entrance to the Terracotta Army (and other sites), it’s a human tidal wave... and I mean that literally. We were carried by the crowd without even touching the ground. It was like a situation where you have one bowl of rice and 20,000 starving people diving for it...
You’re at a ticket counter, and they cut in front of you. You’re in line for boarding, suitcase ready to go on the conveyor belt, and someone shows up out of nowhere to put THEIR suitcase down... even though they have a flight ticket with THEIR seat number and won’t be leaving before you!!!! You’re getting on the bus, and someone shoves past you just so they don’t end up behind you.
It’s like these people only think about themselves. I didn’t see a single person let someone else go first or even ask—it’s as if politeness and respect are completely foreign to them.
It’s honestly exhausting and draining...
- Communication: In every other country we’ve visited, whether in Asia or Europe, we always manage—with English, a few words of Italian, French, or Spanish. In China, I’ll be blunt: if you don’t speak Chinese, you’re screwed. And yet, a pair of kids around ten or twelve years old asked us in English where we were from :)
- Understanding: Here’s the rule. Even if the person you’re talking to speaks a little English and says they understand you... make sure they *really* do, because 9 times out of 10, they don’t. Out of pride or just cluelessness, they’ll give you a big smile and nod, but in reality, they didn’t get what you were saying.
Several times with our group, in the evening at a restaurant, if we hadn’t been helped by someone at another table who spoke a little English, we’d still be there. The classic example: the waiter brings one menu (for 10 people at the table), and we’re all trying to explain that we need 4 or more menus. Five minutes later, he’s still staring at us with that same blank smile...
In 3* or 4* hotels, you go to the front desk for a hot water or AC issue. Three or four staff members just stand there beaming at you. You try to explain with photos or a translator, but in the end, you leave with the problem unresolved.
They don’t speak—they shout... on buses, in hotels...
We were also surprised to find that self-service laundromats were almost nonexistent. We got scammed once at a hotel with an astronomical bill!
As for flights, we flew Air China on the way there and Austrian Airlines on the way back—no comparison. Air China had zero service and food that was "baby food" quality. Austrian Airlines had multiple services, a decent meal, and smiling flight attendants.
I don’t know if any of you had the same experience in this country, but I’m definitely not eager to go back. Whereas if someone offered me India, Thailand, or Vietnam tomorrow, I’d be there in a heartbeat!!!
Did any of you feel the same things we did in China?
We spent a good twenty days there in August. First, we traveled solo around Chengdu, then joined an organized tour for 12 days (Beijing, Pingyao, Xi'an, Guilin, Xingping, Yangshuo, Shanghai, Wuzhen) and extended our stay by 4 extra days to visit Zhangjiajie.
The landscapes were stunning, and we have unforgettable memories... but we were really disappointed by the following points:
- The food: way too spicy. Lacking in flavor, not much taste. I’m speaking "in general" because we did enjoy some good steamed dumplings, smoked pork, and other dumplings... But compared to Thailand, Cambodia, or India, Chinese cuisine didn’t impress us at all.
- The behavior of the Chinese: disrespectful, rushed, agitated. You constantly have to fight—people push, crowd, and overwhelm you... At the entrance to the Terracotta Army (and other sites), it’s a human tidal wave... and I mean that literally. We were carried by the crowd without even touching the ground. It was like a situation where you have one bowl of rice and 20,000 starving people diving for it...
You’re at a ticket counter, and they cut in front of you. You’re in line for boarding, suitcase ready to go on the conveyor belt, and someone shows up out of nowhere to put THEIR suitcase down... even though they have a flight ticket with THEIR seat number and won’t be leaving before you!!!! You’re getting on the bus, and someone shoves past you just so they don’t end up behind you.
It’s like these people only think about themselves. I didn’t see a single person let someone else go first or even ask—it’s as if politeness and respect are completely foreign to them.
It’s honestly exhausting and draining...
- Communication: In every other country we’ve visited, whether in Asia or Europe, we always manage—with English, a few words of Italian, French, or Spanish. In China, I’ll be blunt: if you don’t speak Chinese, you’re screwed. And yet, a pair of kids around ten or twelve years old asked us in English where we were from :)
- Understanding: Here’s the rule. Even if the person you’re talking to speaks a little English and says they understand you... make sure they *really* do, because 9 times out of 10, they don’t. Out of pride or just cluelessness, they’ll give you a big smile and nod, but in reality, they didn’t get what you were saying.
Several times with our group, in the evening at a restaurant, if we hadn’t been helped by someone at another table who spoke a little English, we’d still be there. The classic example: the waiter brings one menu (for 10 people at the table), and we’re all trying to explain that we need 4 or more menus. Five minutes later, he’s still staring at us with that same blank smile...
In 3* or 4* hotels, you go to the front desk for a hot water or AC issue. Three or four staff members just stand there beaming at you. You try to explain with photos or a translator, but in the end, you leave with the problem unresolved.
They don’t speak—they shout... on buses, in hotels...
We were also surprised to find that self-service laundromats were almost nonexistent. We got scammed once at a hotel with an astronomical bill!
As for flights, we flew Air China on the way there and Austrian Airlines on the way back—no comparison. Air China had zero service and food that was "baby food" quality. Austrian Airlines had multiple services, a decent meal, and smiling flight attendants.
I don’t know if any of you had the same experience in this country, but I’m definitely not eager to go back. Whereas if someone offered me India, Thailand, or Vietnam tomorrow, I’d be there in a heartbeat!!!
Bonjour,
je me permet une petite réflexion suite aux posts de plus en plus nombreux de voyageurs qui semblent être , de plus en plus, en quête d'authenticité lors de leurs voyages.
On se dit en permanence que voyager "hors des sentiers battus" nous permettrait de découvrir plus de culture et des gens plus authentiques.
Eh bien pour ma part je pense que c'est un concept qui va bientôt devenir une mode touristique.
Trouver de l'"authentique" selon moi dépend de l état d'esprit dans lequel on voyage.
Je prend l'exemple de Bali, c'est a Kuta (endroit le plus touristique et le plus débauché de l'ile) que j'ai découvert le Bali authentique et traditionnel, la ou j'ai appris le plus sur la culture balinaise, les traditions, les cérémonies etc....(j'y suis resté 3 mois) .Je trouve, a titre personnel, que beaucoup trop de voyageurs cherchent à avoir l'authenticité d'un pays, d'une population, servi sur un plateau ( c'est un constat, pas une critique).
Si on prend le temps de se poser un temps soit peu dans un lieu, même ultra touristique, et de discuter avec les gens, de s'attarder un peu, les locaux seront ravis de vous faire découvrir autres choses que les boites, la bintang et la plage (en parlant de Kuta).
Je suis le premier a fustigé le tourisme de masse qui malheureusement défigure beaucoup de lieux, mais je suis heureux de constaté qu'en creusant un peu, le coté culturel demeure encore bien ancrée dans la population locale.
Donc amis voyageurs, prenez un peu plus le temps de creuser votre sujet :) car l'authentique se cache partout, même dans les hauts lieux du tourisme. (je n'en dirais malheureusement pas autant pour ce qui est des paysages :( ......)
Pensez vous aussi que tourisme de masse et authenticité peuvent coexister?
Pensez vous aussi que tourisme de masse et authenticité peuvent coexister?
salut a tous,
je suis actuellement au vietnam et je reviens de hoi an(centre vietnam).lors de mon passage dans cette ville je suis alle a la vietcombank pour echanger 100 euros en cheque voyage.cette somme est equivalente a 2 000 000 de dong.la femme de la banque me compte rapidement les billets sous le nez, et me donne la somme que je m'enpresse de mettre dans mes poches pour eviter d'etaler une telle somme au nez de tout le monde.(celle ci me me donne pas le recu, mais machinalement je lui demande et je l'obtient).a mon retour immediat a l'hotel je decide de ranger correctement la somme mais a ma grande surprise je m'apercois qu'il manque 100 000 dong!!je recompte 3 fois(en l'etalant sur le lit), mon amie egalement, on y croit pas on s'est fait enfler !?degoute!!deja que dans ce pays il faut toujours etre vigilant..on se dit qu on la dans l'os mais on va tout de meme se plaindre pour le principe.a peine arrive la femme nous reconnais, je commence a lui parler et sa collegue(sans que je puisse finir ma phrase)me demande la somme que j'ai dans la main, la prend rapidement, la manipule et la repasse immediatement a la personne qui me fait face .embrouille!?!?elle me recompte les sous sous le nez, tranquillement, et on tombe sur le compte!!!!!!!!!!!!elle nous dit que les billets etaient colles.depuis quand les vieux billets ( il y avait que des vieux)se collent ensembles??pur elles tout est ok mais on comprend bien qu'elles ont ete tres malines, pour eviter le scandale, d'un tour de passe passe(on se croirait a st ouen!)elles ont remis deux billets de 50 000 milles..
alors attention!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!on dois pas etre les seuls.recompter de suite ou demander lui de vous compter la somme doucement.la vigilance est de rigeur dans ce pays et j'en suis bien desole...
yo
je suis actuellement au vietnam et je reviens de hoi an(centre vietnam).lors de mon passage dans cette ville je suis alle a la vietcombank pour echanger 100 euros en cheque voyage.cette somme est equivalente a 2 000 000 de dong.la femme de la banque me compte rapidement les billets sous le nez, et me donne la somme que je m'enpresse de mettre dans mes poches pour eviter d'etaler une telle somme au nez de tout le monde.(celle ci me me donne pas le recu, mais machinalement je lui demande et je l'obtient).a mon retour immediat a l'hotel je decide de ranger correctement la somme mais a ma grande surprise je m'apercois qu'il manque 100 000 dong!!je recompte 3 fois(en l'etalant sur le lit), mon amie egalement, on y croit pas on s'est fait enfler !?degoute!!deja que dans ce pays il faut toujours etre vigilant..on se dit qu on la dans l'os mais on va tout de meme se plaindre pour le principe.a peine arrive la femme nous reconnais, je commence a lui parler et sa collegue(sans que je puisse finir ma phrase)me demande la somme que j'ai dans la main, la prend rapidement, la manipule et la repasse immediatement a la personne qui me fait face .embrouille!?!?elle me recompte les sous sous le nez, tranquillement, et on tombe sur le compte!!!!!!!!!!!!elle nous dit que les billets etaient colles.depuis quand les vieux billets ( il y avait que des vieux)se collent ensembles??pur elles tout est ok mais on comprend bien qu'elles ont ete tres malines, pour eviter le scandale, d'un tour de passe passe(on se croirait a st ouen!)elles ont remis deux billets de 50 000 milles..
alors attention!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!on dois pas etre les seuls.recompter de suite ou demander lui de vous compter la somme doucement.la vigilance est de rigeur dans ce pays et j'en suis bien desole...
yo
