Bonjour Nous avons réservé une croisière tour du monde en...2021. Je reconnais qu.il y a encore plusieurs mois avant le départ mais j.aimerais échanger avec d.autres croisiéristes faisant le même voyage (navire Poesia et trajet passant par Panama).

Bonsoir a toutes et tous . Ayant fait notre premier TDM avec MSC Magnifica début 2019 , il se fait savoir qu'un TDM avec MSC se fait en 2022 et passe par l'Amérique du Sud , il n'y aurait que +/- 9 ports les mêmes ! Mon épouse et moi sommes en pleine réflexion : on y va ou pas ?

Voir itinéraire en pièce jointe Bonne fin de week-end

Julien

Who are you? Where are you from? Where are you going?

Like last year at this time, a post about bike travel ideas.

How many of us are preparing a trip planned for this year? Probably a lot.

What’s yours—the one you’ve been dying to do for so long, maybe too long? For us, it’s a modest PARIS-MARATHON by bike, followed by MARATHON-ATHENS on foot in June 2010. And you?

May the passion keep growing before, during, and after! Happy planning and safe travels to everyone.

During our first road trip across the United States, we covered 23,000 km and crossed 28 states in 53 days.

Originally, we had planned to drive Route 66 all the way to Oatman in Arizona and visit various national parks in the American West over a two-month period.

This itinerary was planned before our departure, and all the relevant information had been gathered to stick to the schedule.

Everything went so smoothly that we finished visiting the national parks well ahead of our planned return date.

It helped that having a bed, a portable toilet, and a cooler in our vehicle gave us some autonomy since we didn’t have to worry about accommodation.

So, we decided to extend our road trip to the cities of Nashville and Memphis in Tennessee.

We then headed to Louisiana to visit Baton Rouge and New Orleans.

We crossed Mississippi and Alabama before driving along Florida’s west coast all the way to Key West.

We returned via Florida’s east coast and then crossed the eastern U.S. states to get back to Quebec through the Jackman border crossing in Maine.

So, I invite you to keep reading this long recap, which will let you discover the different attractions we visited throughout this amazing journey.

Videos are included throughout the recap. Click on the image to start the video.

To jump to a specific post, here are the relevant links:

Route 66 - Illinois & Missouri Route 66 - St. Louis (Missouri) - Gateway Arch National Park Route 66 - Cuba (Missouri) - City Murals Route 66 - Springfield (Missouri) - Fantastic Caverns Route 66 - Kansas & Oklahoma Route 66 - Texas & Arizona Route 66 - Texas - The Stations of the Cross in Groom Route 66 - Texas - Panhandle - VW Slug Bug Ranch Texas - Palo Duro Canyon State Park - Juniper Trails Texas - Palo Duro Canyon State Park - The Lighthouse Trail Route 66 - Texas - Amarillo - Cadillac Ranch Route 66 - New Mexico - Santa Rosa Blue Hole New Mexico - Bandelier National Monument - Alcove House Trail via Main Loop Trail New Mexico - Bandelier National Monument - Tsankawi Ruins Trail New Mexico - White Rock Overlook Route 66 - New Mexico - Albuquerque - Old Town New Mexico - White Sands National Park New Mexico - White Sands National Park - Dune Life Nature Trail New Mexico - White Sands National Park - Playa Trail New Mexico - White Sands National Park - Interdune Boardwalk New Mexico - Gila Cliff Dwellings National Monument New Mexico - Grants - Ice Cave & Bandera Volcano New Mexico - Gallup - Pyramide Rock Trail & Church Rock Trail Arizona - Holbrook - Painted Desert Arizona - Petrified Forest National Park - Puerco Pueblo & Newspaper Rock Viewpoint Arizona - Petrified Forest National Park - Blue Mesa Arizona - Petrified Forest National Park - The Teepees, Agate Bridge & Jasper Forest Overlook Arizona - Petrified Forest National Park - Crystal Forest Trail Arizona - Petrified Forest National Park - Giant Logs Trail Arizona - Winslow - Two Guns Ghost Town Arizona - Cameron - Little Colorado River Gorge Overlooks Arizona - Grand Canyon National Park - Shoshone Point Trail Arizona - Grand Canyon National Park - Desert View Drive Arizona - Grand Canyon National Park - Rim Route (Orange) & Village Route (Blue) Arizona - Grand Canyon National Park - Hermit Route (Red Line) Route 66 - Arizona - Historic Town of Oatman Arizona - Bullhead City Community Park Nevada - Red Rock Canyon - Calico I & II & Sandstone Quarry Nevada - Red Rock Canyon - Willow Springs Nevada - Red Rock Canyon Lookouts Nevada - Valley of Fire State Park - White Domes Trail Nevada - Valley of Fire State Park - Seven Wonders Trail, Pink Canyon, Fire Wave Nevada - Valley of Fire State Park - Rainbow Vista Trail Nevada - Valley of Fire State Park - Mouse's Tank Trail Nevada - Valley of Fire State Park - Rock Formations Nevada - Valley of Fire State Park - Scenic Routes Nevada - Cathedral Gorge State Park - Slot Canyons Nevada - Cathedral Gorge State Park - Eagle Point & Miller Point Utah - Bryce Canyon National Park - Mossy Cave & Tropic Ditch Waterfall Trail Utah - Bryce Canyon National Park - Scenic Drive Utah - Zion National Park - Pa'rus Trail Utah - Zion National Park - Sand Bench Trail Utah - Zion National Park - Emerald Pools Trail Utah - Zion National Park - West Rim Trail (Trail connecting to Angels Landing) Utah - Zion National Park - Riverside Walk Utah - Zion National Park - Court of The Patriarchs & Big Bend Utah - Zion National Park - Mount Carmel Highway Scenic Drive Utah - Kanab - Jackson Flat Reservoir Utah - Toadstools Trail in Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument Arizona - Page - Glen Canyon Dam Overlook Arizona - Page - Glen Canyon National Recreation Area Arizona - Page - Horseshoe Bend Overlook Arizona - Page - Upper Antelope Canyon Arizona - Page - Navajo Canyon Boat Tour at Lake Powell Arizona - Page - Antelope Canyon X Arizona - Canyon de Chelly National Monument - Chelly Canyon Arizona - Canyon de Chelly National Monument - Canyon del Muerto Arizona - Monument Valley Navajo Tribal Park Utah - Mexican Hat Utah - Mexican Hat - Goosenecks State Park Utah - Mexican Hat - Valley of the Gods Utah - The Moki Dugway Scenic Backway Utah - Blanding - Natural Bridges National Monument Utah - Lake Powell - Hite Crossing Bridge Utah - Lake Powell - Glen Canyon National Recreation Area - Hite Overlook Utah - Capitol Reef National Park - Chimney Rock Loop Trail Utah - Capitol Reef National Park - Hickman Bridge Trail Utah - Capitol Reef National Park - Grand Wash Trail Utah - Capitol Reef National Park - Sunset Point Trail Utah - Capitol Reef National Park - Goosenecks Trail Utah - Capitol Reef National Park - Viewpoints - Fruita Area Utah - Capitol Reef National Park - Viewpoints - Scenic Drive Utah - Capitol Reef National Park - Cassidy Arch Trail Utah - Capitol Reef National Park - On the way to Capitol Gorge Trailhead Utah - Capitol Reef National Park - Capitol Gorge Trailhead Utah - Monroe - Mystic Hot Springs Utah - Scenic Overlooks on UT-24, UT-119 & I-70 Utah - Arches National Park - Park Avenue Trail Utah - Arches National Park - Courthouse Towers Section's Viewpoints Utah - Arches National Park - Balanced Rock, Pothole Arch, Ham Rock & Garden of Eden Utah - Arches National Park - Double Arch Trail, Cove Arch, Cove of Caves & Panorama Point Utah - Arches National Park - Windows Loop & Turret Arch Trail Utah - Arches National Park - Delicate Arch Trail Utah - Arches National Park - Upper Delicate Arch Viewpoint Trail Utah - Arches National Park - Fiery Furnace Section - Viewpoints Utah - Arches National Park - Sand Dune Arch Trail Utah - Arches National Park - Skyline Arch Trail Utah - Arches National Park - Devils Garden Trail Utah - Dead Horse Point State Park - West Rim Trail Utah - Dead Horse Point State Park - East Rim Trail Utah - Moab - Utah State Route 279 (Potash Road) Utah - Moab - Shafer Trail - Potash Evaporation Ponds Utah - Moab - Potash Road Dinosaur Tracks and Petroglyphs Utah - Moab - Potash Road - Corona, Bowtie & Pinto Arches Trail Utah - Moab - Potash Road - Wall Street Climbing Area Utah - Moab - Kane Springs Road Utah - Moab - Kane Springs Road - Side By Side Adventure Utah - Moab - Kane Springs Road to Moab Utah - Canyonlands National Park - Island in the Sky - Mesa Arch Trail Utah - Canyonlands National Park - Island in the Sky - Aztec Butte Trail Utah - Canyonlands National Park - Island in the Sky - Whale Rock Trail Utah - Canyonlands National Park - Island in the Sky - Upheaval Dome Trail Utah - Canyonlands National Park - Island in the Sky - Grand View Point Overlook Trail Utah - Canyonlands National Park - Island in the Sky - White Rim Overlook Trail Utah - Canyonlands National Park - Island in the Sky - Overlooks Utah - Moab - Wilson Arch Utah - Monticello - Newspaper Rock State Historical Monument Utah - Canyonlands National Park - The Needles - Road Side Ruin Trail Utah - Canyonlands National Park - The Needles - Cave Spring Trail Utah - Canyonlands National Park - The Needles - Pothole Point Trail Utah - Canyonlands National Park - The Needles - Big Spring Canyon Overlook Trail Utah - Canyonlands National Park - The Needles - Overlooks Colorado - Mesa Verde National Park - Mesa Top Ruins Road Colorado - Mesa Verde National Park - Chapin Mesa Road Colorado - Mesa Verde National Park - Mesa Top Loop Colorado - Mesa Verde National Park - Wetherill Mesa Road Colorado - Great Sand Dunes National Park Colorado - Mosca - Zapata Falls Colorado - Colorado Springs - Garden of the Gods Colorado - Black Canyon of the Gunnison National Park Colorado - Gunnison - Curecanti National Recreation Area Colorado - Gunnison - Blue Mesa Dam & Reservoir Colorado - Lake Pueblo State Park (Pueblo Reservoir) Kentucky - Mayfield, 5 months after an EF4 tornado Tennessee - Nashville - Downtown Walking Tour Tennessee - Graceland Mansion - Home of Elvis Presley Tennessee - Graceland - Lisa Marie & Hound Dog II Jets Tennessee - Graceland - Elvis Presley Automobile Museum & Exhibits Tennessee - Exploring Memphis Louisiana - Exploring Baton Rouge Louisiana - Exploring Lafayette Louisiana - Exploring Houma Louisiana - New Orleans - French Quarter Tour Louisiana - New Orleans - Garden District Tour Louisiana - New Orleans - Creole Queen Mississippi River Cruise Florida - Clearwater Beach Florida - Sanibel Island - Bowman's Beach Florida - Siesta Key Beach Florida - Captiva Island - Turner Beach Florida - Key Largo - Sunset Florida - Key West - Smathers Beach Florida - Miami Beach - Art Deco District Florida - Miami Beach South Carolina - Myrtle Beach Virginia - Virginia Beach Maine - Scarborough - Pine Point Beach

Passionate about travel, animals (furry, feathered, scaly), and my partner’s love for photography, it was in 2014, after encountering orangutans in Gunung Leuser National Park in Sumatra, that I felt the urge to see other great apes in their natural habitat and in the wild. For my 40th birthday, I dreamed of only one thing... seeing gorillas. I still had four years to wait and four years to save up.

At the time, I had only heard of the Virunga Mountains, particularly the part in Rwanda. To be honest, Uganda had never really struck me as a destination I’d ever set foot in, and the DRC, for security reasons, didn’t particularly appeal to me.

But then, one day, I heard that Rwanda was going to increase the price of gorilla permits to USD 1,500 per person. Ouch... that seemed way overpriced, especially since we were going as a couple and I really wanted to see them twice. $6,000 for two days... Okay, it’s for my 40th birthday, but still...

At the end of 2017, I started looking more closely into our trip planned for December 2018. A stroke of luck in my schedule meant my former English teacher sent me a link to an article she’d written for her travel agency about her encounter with gorillas in Uganda. Hmm, Uganda? It was the first time I’d read about the country. Why not?

I scoured various forums in French and English and re-discovered voyageforum.com. And most importantly, I came across Ticapi’s travel journal, which I devoured in one evening, and a few months later, Muriel18’s, whose release I eagerly awaited. Wow!!! Not only can you see gorillas in Uganda, but also chimpanzees and the shoebill, not to mention the savannah and the chance to go on more classic safaris.

All that’s left is to convince my better half that Uganda is a safe country...

Usually, and now more than ever, we prefer independent travel and self-drive trips in particular. But given the proximity to the DRC border, the potentially impassable roads after rain, and rental cars that aren’t always in the best condition, we hired a guide for two weeks in December 2018. The months passed, and the excitement grew.

Three weeks before departure, I fell ill after a work trip to Asia. Darn! This time, I didn’t waste any time—I quickly saw a doctor and got rid of that virus. That was the plan! Flu or malaria? (I’d been to the Amazon six months earlier.) The doctor didn’t know; the cough only appeared a few days later. We did blood tests two days in a row to rule out malaria. So it was the flu or... pneumonia :-( ...?

The X-rays spoke for themselves—it was pneumonia, and it was already quite advanced. No big deal, I still had two weeks to recover! I religiously took my antibiotics, downed loads of vitamin C, but nothing worked—the antibiotics didn’t seem to be doing anything. I was coughing so hard I thought my lungs would come up, I was short of breath, exhausted. I’d dreamed of this trip for so long... it seemed unthinkable not to go. Five days before departure, my doctor hospitalized me—the pneumonia had worsened, and my blood oxygen levels were dangerously low. I was in tears but still in denial about what was happening to me. Besides, I’d still taken my anti-malarial, because I was determined to leave.

I spent the first day in the emergency room on oxygen 24/7. The germ causing my pneumonia was unknown to the infectious disease and pulmonary specialists. They tried a combination of antibiotics. No big deal, in four days, I’d be leaving. I harassed the doctor, who must have thought I was crazy, to find out when I could be discharged—"because, you see, doctor, I have a flight to Uganda on Saturday." On Thursday, the doctor was firm: I’d still be hospitalized on Saturday... deep down, I knew it but didn’t want to admit it. My partner handled canceling the flights, contacted our travel insurance (thankfully we had some), and I wrote to our guide (who, in the meantime, had become our tour operator) who could hardly believe it. And neither could I! We told ourselves it was just postponed and that we’d take this long-awaited trip at the end of 2019!

March 2019, the tour operator reached out to us: "Didn’t you say you wanted to go to Uganda this year? You’d better hurry and book the gorilla permits before they run out."

Oh yes, we wanted to see the gorillas. But we hesitated about rebooking. I still hoped to do this trip as a self-drive. The thing is, this year, we managed to take three weeks off, and we also wanted to spend a week in Rwanda. My partner still didn’t feel comfortable driving there. Yet, he’s driven all over the world. I respected his feelings, especially since he’s the only one who drives.

Anyway, we went back and forth but neither of us really said what we were thinking: "What if we used someone else to organize our trip?" In the end, we went with him again, made a first deposit for four gorilla permits (two days each) (not the best idea we’ve ever had), and looked into adding Rwanda to our itinerary. We’d have a guide/driver for the whole trip with mid-range accommodations.

After several back-and-forths, the itinerary was supposed to look something like this. To be honest, I got fed up after a while.

Day 1: Arrival in Kigali in the evening Day 2: Transfer from Kigali to Akagera NP Day 3: Safari in Akagera NP Day 4: Akagera NP and night in Nyagatare Day 5: Transfer from Nyagatare to Nyungwe Forest Day 6: Nyungwe Day 7: Nyungwe Day 8: Transfer from Nyungwe to Lake Kivu, Rubavu/Gisenyi Day 9: Transfer from Rubavu/Gisenyi to Kisoro/Uganda via the Cyanika border Day 10: Gorilla tracking in Mgahinga NP Day 11: Golden Monkey tracking in Mgahinga NP, night at Lake Mutanda Day 12: Gorilla tracking in Bwindi, Ruhija (later changed to Rushaga) Day 13: Queen Elizabeth NP, Ishasha sector in the morning and Kazinga Channel in the afternoon Day 14: No clear answer on activities for that day. After three attempts, I gave up. I shouldn’t have... Day 15: Chimpanzee tracking in Kyambura Gorge, night at Lake Nkuruba Day 16: Lake Nkuruba, morning activities around the lake and Bigodi Swamps in the afternoon Day 17: Transfer from Lake Nkuruba to Murchison Falls Day 18: Murchison Falls Day 19: Murchison Falls Day 20: Transfer from Murchison Falls via Ziwa Rhino Sanctuary, night in Entebbe Day 21: Entebbe – Mabamba Swamps Day 22: Mabamba Swamps in the morning, Botanical Garden in Entebbe in the afternoon, and transfer to the airport for the overnight return flight.

In April, he asked us for a substantial deposit for the accommodations and some park activities, as one of his colleagues was doing the same tour in May and it would be good if he could secure the already-made reservations by paying the bill.

A week before departure, just like in 2018, we paid the remaining balance of the agreed amount. Three days later, since I hadn’t heard from him (the TO is based in Germany), I sent him a message to confirm he’d received the payment.

My partner joked, "And that’s when he tells us he closed the account we sent the money to." I forced a laugh... and even more so when the TO asked me which account I’d sent the balance to... "Uh, the same one as before." And then he told me he’d closed that account and maybe should’ve mentioned it earlier... uh, you think?! And of course, he needed the money sent again quickly. "Well, buddy, you’ll have to wait until I get it back!!!

It was already late, and my bank had been closed for hours. The next morning, first thing, I called my bank and explained the situation.

"Unfortunately, we can’t do anything for you; you’ll have to wait for the money to be returned." "But how long will that take?" "A few days or weeks, depending on the banks, and you should expect transfer fees."

Brilliant! :-(

After nearly 10 years of traveling almost exclusively without traditional travel agencies, had we just been scammed? I went back to the forums to reread posts about this TO from other travelers. They were all positive; no one mentioned a scam.

The next day, I searched online for the contact details of his bank in Germany. I wrote to the generic email address in English, explaining that I’d made a transfer without knowing that this gentleman had closed his bank account. The employee replied in impeccable English that the bank only responded to emails written in German. Grrr! I used a well-known translator since my German is, let’s say, rusty, and resent my email in German. The same agent replied in German that unfortunately, they couldn’t do anything for me—that if the account had been closed, an automatic rule would return the money to the sender... period, end of story!

Well, our money is lost somewhere in the "cloud," or so we hope! Wait and see!

No news from our TO, and we didn’t reach out either—we were too annoyed by the whole situation.

This catchy and somewhat mysterious title comes from several questions I’ve been asking myself.

VF has been back open for a reasonable number of weeks and months now. The number of visitors overall matches past averages, but the number of members online in the last 24 hours seems relatively lower than what we used to see.

Yet, to my surprise, I’m seeing fewer travel journals, way fewer messages, and way fewer questions. I don’t see many new registered users online, and I notice a number of members who are logged in but either aren’t participating or have stopped participating.

Something’s not adding up for me because, in my opinion, VF is still appealing, and I don’t see which other sites could really compete.

Was there a real break between pre- and post-Covid? Does it just take more time for some people to discover the site or learn that it’s active again? Do people now prefer quick consumption on sites like FB or others I’m not familiar with? Where have the site’s old-timers gone, and what are they doing with their time now? What’s really going on here?

Et bien le confinement a de beaux jours devant lui ! Chose promise, chose due (publier une journée de vadrouille par jour de confinement) ! Après le carnet sur un voyage aux Etats-Unis (voyageforum.com/...-americain-d9943984/), après le carnet sur une vadrouille en Jordanie (https://voyageforum.com/discussion/on-part-en-vadrouille-en-jordanie-d9991360/), voici maintenant un carnet dans les balkans, voyage réalisé il y a maintenant quelques années :

Et on garde les bonnes habitudes, publication d'une journée par jour, à chaque fois à 17h30 ! Bonne lecture et n'hésite pas à laisser un commentaire, une question, une remarque, ...

Franck

Bonjour à tous

J'envisage de faire un tour du monde en 2021 avec la compagnie Costa sur le navire déliziosa j'aimerai connaître, les avis des personnes qui reviennent du tour du monde 2019 et ou 2018. Merci d'avance pour les réponses à bientôt. Daoum

Bonjour

Beaucoup de voyageurs ont déjà réservé leur tour du monde en croisière pour 2021. L'achat s'est fait au regard de publicités qui vantaient un certains nombres d'escales , d’excursions etc.... Si durant le voyage des impératifs de sécurité (météo , conflits, etc... ) ou des interdictions se font jour suite à des décisions de pays face à des impératifs sanitaires (Covid19) , on peut comprendre que la force majeure peut être invoquée par la compagnie qui a vendu son produit. Mais la question suivante mérite d'être posée :

Si AVANT de partir , la compagnie sait qu'elle ne pourra pas assurer un certain nombre de prestations en regard avec celles qui ont été décrites par voie publicitaire (Elle ne peut invoquer le cas imprévu et impératif) , doit elle le faire savoir aux croisiéristes d'une manière formelle et le croisiériste pourra il demander le remboursement de tout ce qu'il aura versé quelle qu’en soit la somme et sans aucune retenue ou le report (A son choix) à une date ultérieure ? (Que la réservation ait été effectuée par le biais d'une agence ou en directe ) La question est simple , et mériterait une réponse claire et limpide des compagnies (MSC, Costa Croisières etc...)

qu'en pensez vous ?

Nous sommes inscrit pour le TDM 2020 depuis novembre 2017, je viens sur le forum pour avoir des renseignements et me rassurer sur certaines inquiétude 4 mois c'est long et il faut tout prévoir, ( nous avons déjà fait des croisières mais plus courtes )Merci d'avance de vos lumières et à bientôt Croisières

Bonjour, C'est décidé! Nous venons de nous inscrire pour ce 1er tour du monde avec MSC, sur le Magnifica, au départ de Marseille, le 6 janvier 2019, dont le parcours nous a particulierement séduit... Un grand enthousiasme, mais aussi un peu d'inquiétude tout de même, car partir 119 jours en croisiere, loin de ses bases, cela est inhabituel. J - 777.... J'ouvre cette discussion, pour tous les futurs TDMistes qui seront du voyage, pour qu'ils puissent s'y retrouver et échanger avis et conseils et préparer ensemble, ce qui sera, j'espère, une magnifique aventure... Jean-Marie PS : cela pourra aussi être l'occasion pour les "anciens" de nous faire part de leurs expériences et nous faire profiter de leurs conseils avisés.

Bonsoir,

beaucoup se posent la question, parfois avec un optimisme surprenant ! Voici un petit rappel :

Pour qu'il y ait des croisières il faut au moins réunir 3 conditions principales (et d'autres aussi) :

- 1 un bateau DÉSINFECTÉ avec son équipage au complet et opérationnel. Pour l'instant les équipages sont disséminés dans le monde. Il faudra les retrouver, les convaincre, certains auront peur. Les convaincus devront trouver des vols pour revenir ; enfin venant de pays "exotiques" ils devront être acceptés à l'entrée des pays où seront les bateaux. Pas gagné avec toutes ces contraintes !!

- 2 un minimum de passagers car en mer un bateau armé coûte beaucoup plus cher que désarmé dans 1 port ou au mouillage !!! Comment vont-ils arriver au port d'embarquement s'ils viennent de loin ? Et mêmes remarques que pour l'équipage, ils faudra qu'ils puissent entrer dans le pays de départ...

- 3 des ports qui acceptent les bateaux. Ce que diront les gouvernements est une chose, ce que décideront les locaux qui, déjà avant l'épidémie ne voyaient plus les croisiéristes d'un très bon œil en est une autre ! Pas gagné non plus pour beaucoup d'endroits où les populations risquent de très très mal réagir à l'arrivée de milliers de personnes potentiellement porteuses du virus même si elles ne sont pas malades.

On peut rêver, mais il faut aussi parfois revenir sur terre à défaut d'être en mer. Pour moi il y aura extrêmement peu de départs avant l'automne en étant très optimiste !!! Je prépare déjà un plan B pour notre départ du 17/10 depuis le Japon Nous avons heureusement des vols reportables. Qui vivra verra.... Qu'en pensez-vous ?

Je pensais faire un compte rendu quotidien, mais finalement j’ai changé d’avis, car toutes nos impressions ont été négatives😕. Nous avons modifier nos habitudes de façon à rendre notre croisière aussi agréable que possible😊. Mais ce fut vraiment difficile.😠

Je me demande à quoi pensait Costa en nous faisant embarquer sur ce « boat people »🏴‍☠️😠😕 en effet comment faire cohabiter pendant 3 semaines 1500 croisièristes européens et 1500 brésiliens qui rentraient au pays avec parfois 10 valises et même des vélos😠, faute de travail pour eux en Europe 500 € la traversée bagages compris c’était vraiment donné, mais coté esprit croisière vraiment pas top.🏴‍☠️

Donc voici le récit du début de cette croisière vers le Brésil.

Dimanche nous quittons la maison vers 12h30, train jusqu’à Nice. Arrivée à 19h10, c’est vrai que l’Ibis est à 100m de la gare, c’est parfait.🙂

Le lendemain matin nous arrivons vers 10 heures devant la gare, une Costa woman arrive vers 10h10 et nous annonce que le premier car est pour le Pacifica, parfait, nous pouvons poser les bagages et monter dans le car.🙂 toujours parfait

Nous partons un peu avant 11heures en fait nous sommes 38 personnes à embarquer sur le Pacifica. Arrivée à Savone à 12h45, les ennuis commencent😠. Il y a 3 bateaux qui embarquent des passagers le Favolosa, (Nous apprendrons plus tard que 2 dames faisant notre croisières, ont embarqué par erreur sur le Favolosa🤪😊 et sont montées dans la cabine, les documents sur le lit les ont intriguées)🤪 le Concordia et le Pacifica et il y a un nombre de car considérables en attente, nous resterons plus de ¾ d’heure dans le car à attendre notre tour😠, ensuite les Costa women montent à bord nous donne le Numéro 19 (je plains ceux qui ne sont pas prioritaires🤪) et les formulaires de santé. Aussitôt remplis nous quittons le car et entrons dans Palacrociere, direction les guichets d’accueil pour changer notre numéro 19 en numéro 1 (grande suite et gold pearl oblige), je demande si il y a un passage pour les embarquements prioritaires, 😮 la personne me répond, oui il y a un tapis rouge😮. Nous le cherchons un moment, car il y a un véritable attroupement à cet endroit🏴‍☠️, l’embarquement venant de commencer (numéro 3) l’hôtesse refoule tous les numéros 4😐, mais pour nous impossible de passer, une grande famille de brésiliens avec la "mémé" qui a du mal à marcher force le passage et finalement passe sous le nez de tout le monde😠🏴‍☠️ , du grand n’importe quoi. Nous arrivons enfin à passer, embouteillage aux contrôle des sacs et des documents, puis nous passons à la photo et direction un car pour aller embarquer sur le Pacifica.

Il est 14heures quand nous arrivons dans notre cabine, un petit tour au buffet pour constater que nous sommes servis et c’est très bien, le bateau est vide, donc aucun problème pour trouver une place🙂. A ce moment de la croisière on a déjà du se laver les mains 10 fois🏴‍☠️🤪

Ensuite nous allons au spa payer les samsara dreams, prendre les rendez vous, et puis nous validons la carte bancaire. Formalités terminées. Il est 15h 15 et pas de valise à l’horizon.😠

En regardant le Today je constate qu’il y a 2 services au restaurant Samsara😠, comme c’est l’heure de la permanence du maître d’hôtel, je vais le voir, ½ heure d’attente😕 pour l’entendre hurler 🏴‍☠️ que le restaurant Samsara est complet et que le spa doit prévenir les clients qu’il est impossible de dîner au restaurant Samsara😠😕. Finalement la carte jaune et « un tant pis nous dînerons dans la suite » ont raison de sa détermination et nous avons notre ticket pour le Samsara.

Je rentre à la cabine toujours pas de valise, vers 17 heures il y a une « grande fête pour le départ du bateau vers le nouveau Monde » nous y allons, mais rien ne se passe sauf l’annonce que le départ est retardé, heureusement car il reste de nombreuses valises sur le quai😠🤪.

18 heures nous allons au bar « Around the clock » assister à la réunion d’information des francophones, nous sommes une poignée Séverine récite ses informations sans la moindre personnalisation. Un Monsieur pose une question, elle répond « merci de ne pas m’interrompre, je répondrai aux questions à la fin » OK taisons nous.😠🏴‍☠️

Retour à la cabine, enfin les valises sont là il est 18h45 Heureusement que nous sommes prioritaires.🤪

Le repas étant à 21h15, nous allons prendre l’apéritif à la chocolaterie, tout le personnel est nouveau, une immense majorité de portugais ou brésilien, qui ne connaissent pas encore leur travail, 😠 donc ce n’est pas évident de se faire servir, d’autant plus qu’il n’y a plus les cartes sur les tables et autre moins il n’y a plus de biscuits à apéritif pour accompagner les boissons.🏴‍☠️

Quand nous arrivons au restaurant Samsara, la petite salle est quasi pleine, nous choisissons d’aller dans la grande salle, nous y dînons presque seuls (un Monsieur arrivera plus tard).

Ah j’ai oublié, nous avions un mot dans la cabine nous demandant de nous rendre au bureau des excursions, il nous faut donc faire la queue😕, pour apprendre que l’excursion de Barcelone est annulée, mon chéri ne pourra pas visiter le Camp Neu. La personne veut absolument que nous prenions une autre excursion, nous refusons toutes ses propositions, je déteste qu’on me force la main. Nous avons décidé d’aller juste nous promener.

Voilà donc un peu déçus par cette journée nous allons nous coucher.😕

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Bonjour

Voilà ce qui serait prévu à partir de la mi-août :

http://crew-center.com/costa-cruises-plans-re-start-voyages-7-ships-5-phases

Cordialement

Hello les voyageurs :)

Les Gros Sacs sont de retour, accrochez vos ceintures 😛

Après notre carnet de voyage "3 semaines au Myanmar avec Les Gros Sacs", nous remettons le couvert avec le Laos cette fois-ci.

Pour rappel, nous sommes actuellement en tour du monde depuis le 1er septembre 2016. Nous avons déjà parcouru le Sri Lanka, le Myanmar, la Thaïlande du Nord, le Laos donc, et nous sommes actuellement au Cambodge

Le contexte : - Du 4 novembre au 3 décembre 2016 - En couple - 4ème destination de notre tour du monde - Les Gros Sacs = Nous = Anaïs & Florent 🙂 - Notre blog si par hasard notre style vous plait : www.lesgrossacs.com - Et si vous aimez les photos, notre instagram : @lesgrossacs - Et tant qu'on y est, si vous voulez rigolez un peu tous les jours, notre page Facebook

Sommaire du carnet : - Descendre le Mékong depuis la frontière Thaïlande/Laos jusqu'à Luang Prabang - Luang Prabang - La Plaine des Jarres (Phonsavan) - Vientiane (pendant le festival That Luang) - Vang Vieng - La boucle de Thakhek en scooter - Le plateau des Bolovens en scooter - Les 4000 îles (Don Khone pour nous) - Traverser la frontière entre Laos et Cambodge (sans payer de bakchich !) - Le bilan (en chiffre et en lettres) - La vidéo - Vos critiques et insultes 😉

Allez c'est parti :)

Bonjour,

En parcourant le forum, j'ai lu à plusieurs reprises que certaines personnes avaient visité des bateaux notamment au port de Marseille. Comment peut on faire pour avoir cet énorme privilège 😎😉😊

Merci pour vos bons tuyaux 😉

Hello everyone,

As usual, I’m posting a new travel journal about our trip to Norway last September. This one will span several months, with a day-by-day account of our adventure. I won’t be posting many photos on the forum (the publishing rules have become even more complicated since my last journal), but you can find all the shots on my blog (address in my signature).

We’ve just returned from a truly extraordinary, unforgettable trip. Planning this trip wasn’t easy, and I’ll admit I struggled to decide on the itinerary… Should we take the Hurtigruten all the way from the south to the north? But a whole trip by boat didn’t really appeal to us. Or focus on the south in the fjord region? But that would mean missing out on the Lofoten Islands… In the end, we chose to concentrate on southern Norway, exploring the coast and fjords, while including a stop in Oslo and mixing train, boat, and car travel. I also opted for a trip where we’d drive less than in previous years (1,650 km compared to 2,000 km in Portugal and 3,800 km in the American West), but we’d still move around a bit and do some hikes. Here’s the itinerary we followed:



This trip was absolutely amazing and introduced us to so many things we’d never seen or done before—fjords, a night on a boat, glaciers, stave churches, snow in summer (…and the high cost of living!).

If we had to sum up our top highlights, here’s our top 3: Mr.:

the variety of landscapes the colors, especially the colors of the water—from crystal clear to light blue and turquoise in some spots eating good fish

Mrs.:

the roads: the ones in the area we explored were truly stunning Geirangerfjord, especially in the late afternoon, when it was quiet and free of cruise ships the Trolltunga hike: a challenging trek and a little personal achievement for us

What we liked less:

the sometimes inconsistent signage on hikes the cost of living (everything costs money, and even food is expensive) the tunnels: there are so many, and they’re not much fun (except for one with a roundabout inside…!)

That’s it for this first summary/overview, and I can already tell that choosing photos is going to be tough!!! Here’s a little preview of what we discovered:



To see the photos in full size on my blog: check it out here

Bonjour, Du 10 juin au 24 juin Charly et moi partirons en croisière sur le MSC Spendida. Je compte sur vous pour m'aider à mieux nous organiser, je préfère découvrir les sites de par nous même que de suivre les groupes, donc si vous avez des informations à me communiquer merci d'avance, j'ai lu passablement de commentaires mais il me reste des questions, je voulais réserver le train de Flam à Myrdal mais il est complet alors que faire? Honningsvag pour le Cap Nord visite de 3 à 4 heures, faut-il plutôt choisir la fin de la journée? etc etc Merci de bien vouloir me donner des conseils, et si vous faite aussi cette croisière faite vous connaitre, j'attends avec impatience Jenny

Hello everyone,

If you'd like, I invite you to join me for a week-long cruise to northern Greece, visiting ports that are often less crowded with cruise ships.

Itinerary: Athens, Skiathos, Volos, Thessaloniki, Kavala, Limnos, Hydra, Athens

Bonjour Ayant depuis longtemps réservé une croisiere pour les fjords en aout 2020. Je me demande dans quelle conditions je peux l annuler sans avoir à payer le solde puisque étant français nous ne pourrons sortir du territoire pour prendre le bateau msc à kiel. Merci de vos conseils cordialement

Our trip to Norway was two years ago already, but I thought it might still be of interest—and it’ll let me relive it a bit by proxy.

Before booking our flight tickets, we debated the route: should we prioritize the north with the Lofoten and Senja islands, or the south with its countless fjords? I was tempted to stay in the south—the country is so vast, and the drive north is long... but my husband really didn’t want to miss the Lofoten. In the end, we figured that since Norway is known for being expensive, we might only visit once (funny how we said the same thing before our first trip to the American West, and look how that turned out 😎), so we didn’t want to skip anything. That meant a 2–3 day drive up north. With 22 days on the ground, it was doable. Especially since, as usual, we skip big cities and gave Oslo a pass.

Practical details: - Flight tickets: 1195 € for 4 with Air France (Paris–Oslo outbound, Tromsø–Bergen–Paris return) - Car rental: 2020 € for 21 days (including the outrageous drop-off fee between Oslo and Tromsø—about 1000 €) - Tolls and ferries: 250 € for the portion billed directly by the rental company. Some ferries required advance booking and payment at the time of reservation—I’ll note their prices as I go through the story. - Hotels: 4135 €, averaging 188 € per night. We blew past our usual budgets from trips to the U.S., but oh well... - Food: 1570 €, averaging 71 € per day for 4 in a country where everything’s expensive... How’d we manage? We rarely ate out, mostly grocery shopped, and even packed half a suitcase with non-perishables: pasta, rice, a few cans, and even some cured sausage! We also stayed 3 nights at Clarion Collection hotels, where an evening buffet was included in the room rate.

salut il faut ouvrir un nouveau post demande de la moderation a plus

Pour continuer ce sujet, vos TR, vos impressions et vos critiques sont appréciés sur n'importe quelle compagnie qui vole dans le monde!

Mid-June, two Auvergnats on the starting blocks—off we go to the former Yugoslavia! We’d already explored some nooks and crannies of northern Croatia back in 2019, so we’re keeping the momentum going by planning a trip to the south of the country and then Montenegro.

On the way back, we’ll drift into Bosnia-Herzegovina just to mix things up a bit!

We’re a little unsure about what to expect in terms of tourist crowds.

Dubrovnik has a reputation for being the hardest-hit city by overtourism, and Kotor and the whole Dalmatian coast aren’t exactly empty...

Luckily, most European countries haven’t started school holidays yet, and some measures seem to have been put in place to limit the flow (like restrictions on the number of cruise ships allowed to dock at the same time).

Maybe we’ll manage to escape the promised hell?

For now, we’re slamming the doors of the Scirocco and heading off to our first stop: northern Italy!

A cette question si personnelle et difficile je vous propose de choisir 3 destinations que vous conseilleriez. Si possible en ajoutant quelques mots ouvrant la porte à des questions . L'idée est une sélection mais pas un classement .

Mon choix : Nouvelle Zélande - Ile du Sud et Australie Probablement un art de vivre et des espaces diversifiés . Polynesie Des paysages exceptionnels , une simplicité de vie aux couleurs chantantes De San Francisco à Los Angeles (route du Grand Canyon- Road trip - Route mythiqueextraordinaire et variété de culture

Fellow travelers,

Don’t they say "never two without three"? It seems so. Here I am again on the forum to share—and let’s be honest, indulge a bit of selfish pleasure—by recounting the story of this third installment in the Land of the Rising Sun.

Where? It’s all in the title. On the island of Kyushu in southern Japan, more precisely in the northwest between Fukuoka and Nagasaki. I hope to take you along with me for 19 nights and 18 full days this autumn of 2024. On the itinerary: gastronomy, crafts, festivals, waterfalls, encounters, and leisurely strolls in all simplicity.

A last-minute flight booked just 7 days before departure, and the route evolved regularly based on whims and accommodation availability, eventually settling on this:

- 5 nights in Fukuoka: Fukuoka city, Ukiha, Itoshima, Dazaifu, Yanagawa - 4 nights in Hasami, Nagasaki Prefecture: Okawachiyama, Arita, Takeo, Kashima, Yobuko, Karatsu, Kabeshima - 6 nights in Nagasaki: Ureshino, Higashi-Sonogi, Nagasaki city, Unzen, Sotome - 4 nights in Fukuoka: Karatsu, Fukuoka city

Most of the trip was done by car for practical reasons—easier access to certain places and freedom of movement—but also for the sheer joy of it. Despite slow traffic at times, driving in rural Japan is a delight.

If the program interests you, see you soon for the start of the journey.

Hi there, just back from a three-week round trip to Quebec and a side trip to New Brunswick. Departed from Montpellier, via CDG, then arrived in Montreal from July 31 to August 20, 2024. AF flights went smoothly.

The RT itinerary (without the visit details):

Arrival in Montreal; Trois-Rivières; Tadoussac; Matane; Gaspé; Campbellton; Trois-Pistoles; Quebec City; Montreal and return to France, AF to CDG then Hop! to Montpellier.

Observations:

Getting out of Montreal airport is a nightmare! Two hours at Avis Auto to pick up the car (nice ride, though—a WW SUV Atlas V6 for two). From what I’ve heard, Montreal Airport is a pain because it was initially under-dimensioned for its infrastructure, and it seems impossible to reorganize everything.

Quebecers: Wonderful people in terms of hospitality and behavior toward tourists—especially French ones. You can ask them for advice at the supermarket, for directions here and there, and those distant cousins are great! That said, I’d exclude Montreal, which, due to its size and perhaps its cosmopolitanism, can’t be considered as welcoming as the countryside and small towns we passed through. A bit like Paris, you could say.

Quebecers prefer Quebec City over Montreal, and I get it. On a positive note for the city, I left some money in the hotel at the end of my stay. Once back in France, I contacted the hotel (day before yesterday), and they confirmed the oversight and are taking steps to send the money back. A nice gesture. It’s the Nouvel Hôtel, 1740 Avenue René Lévesque. Well-located, too.

Tourists: Same as always!

Americans: Still lacking in culture and education, but we already knew that. Loud, intrusive, annoying, you could say. And I’ll skip the “Oh my God! Oh my God!” all day long. And always with a coffee cup in hand on the streets. Not just American tourists, actually. Coffee is either enjoyed at the counter of a café or at home in front of the day’s news. It must also be said that our cousins’ coffee is more like dishwater.

Tourists from the Middle Kingdom: No change there! Flagrant lack of European culture and respect. They can be quite annoying at times. Thankfully, they don’t like the countryside or small towns.

Tourists from the Land of the Rising Sun: As usual, impeccable behavior. Both in terms of dress and discretion.

The British: They feel at home. Well, they kind of are, actually. Distant, inaccessible—typical English folks.

South Americans: A lot of them in Montreal during my stay. Quite noisy, especially at breakfast. But deep down, they’re great and very polite. I really like them. Must be my 36.1% Iberian DNA from my ancestry test that makes me say that.

And the French? Always the same! Complainers, grumblers, never happy with the meal, always finding prices too high, cutting in line, sometimes with a Quechua backpack but not always. In short, we don’t change. That said, there were some really nice people and great encounters that will leave wonderful memories. Some folks from Marseille in Quebec City, Toulouse in Montreal, Perpignan... But not many Parisians. Or maybe they just don’t talk to outsiders. When I think that my wife is from the 14th arrondissement...

And lots of lovely young French people there on a Working Holiday Visa for two years.

Others? Italians? Didn’t run into many. Eastern Europeans? Didn’t see any, or they were super discreet.

The trip started on July 31. 2,000 photos to sort through. More to come later.

Well, since the lockdown is dragging on, I’m starting a new travel journal following the one I finished publishing yesterday: https://voyageforum.com/discussion/voyage-pays-perles-voyage-dans-ouest-americain-d9943984/ This time, after the U.S., we’re heading to the Middle East—Jordan! And we’re keeping up the good habits: one day’s entry published every day at 5:30 PM! Happy reading, and feel free to leave a comment, question, or remark...

Franck

Qui n’a jamais eu envie de vivre les aventures de Sindbad le marin, qui n’a jamais rêvé de Shéhérazade lors de ses lectures des contes Les Mille et Une Nuits? Ou encore de la reine de Saba...

Eh bien! En parcourant le Sultanat d’Oman, nous allons à leur recherche ou plutôt découvrir ce pays des Mille et Une Merveilles décrites dans les célèbres contes persans dont a fait partie l’actuel Sultanat.

Voici l’itinéraire prévu pour ces deux semaines :

21/12 Lyon – Mascate 22/12 Mascate 23/12 Mascate – Wadi Tiwi 24/12 Wadi Shab – Sour 25/12 Ras Al Jinz – Wadi Bani Kalid 26/12 Wahiba Sands 27/12 Sugar Dunes – Sanctuaire Oryx 28/12 Mirbat 29/12 Wadi Darbat – Salalah 30/12 Mughsayl – Rakyut 31/12 Rub Al Khali - Haima 01/01 Jabreen - Nizwa 02/01 Tanuf - Bahla – Jebel Shams 03/01 Jebel Shams – Al Hamra - Misfat 04/01 Bilad Sayt – Wadi Bani Awf – Mascate 05/01 Mascate - Lyon

Montagnes, Wadis, déserts et plages, chacun y trouvera son bonheur. Voici un petit aperçu de ce qui vous attend.













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