est il possible d'aller voire les gorilles en ouganda ? sans passer par un tour opérator merci de vos réponses

Bonjour amis voyageurs ! En pleine grisaille française je me surprend à rêver de voyage pour l'année qui arrive (l'été notamment). Au cours de mes recherches diverses, j'avoue m'être attardé sur un pays qui me fascine depuis beaucoup de temps, l'Ouganda. Je regarde des témoignages, j'écoute des récits, je m'extasie devant des photos. J' entend parler de gorilles et de chimpanzés, de lions qui montent aux arbres entre autres animaux sauvages, de trekking dans les montagnes, de lac Victoria, d'un pays préservé du tourisme de masse, en bref, je suis séduit. Mon problème est que je n'arrive pas vraiment à me faire une idée des ressources nécessaires à un tel voyage. Je parle anglais, j'ai vécu un an en Afrique du sud mais je reste un étudiant aux finances limitées à quelques jobs d'été. Je voudrais donc savoir s'il parait réaliste d'envisager de voir ce que j'ai décrit plus haut (Murchinson falls, Queen Elizabeth Park, chimpanzés, gorilles voire rafting à Jintja) avec ces moyens. Je suis prêt à utiliser les transports locaux, dormir dans des lieux au confort spartiate, manger local mais est-ce que certains coûts dont je n'ai pas conscience restent rédhibitoires (j'ai conscience des 500 USD des gorilles mais je pense que si j'entreprends un tel voyage, je trouverais au moins ces 500 dollars là). Je vois des prix d'agences (consultés pour avoir un ordre d'idée) dépassant 3000 dollars qui m'effraient un peu. Est-ce qu'il est impossible de voyager en Ouganda sans agence ? Amis connaisseurs de l'Ouganda, pourriez-vous éclairer ma lanterne pour savoir si je dois repousser l'Ouganda à quelques années. Merci d'avance François

I’d love to know if anyone has done treks in the Rwenzori Mountains and how much it costs on average, what the infrastructure is like, the landscapes, and safety in the area. Thanks so much! I’m really looking forward to your replies.

Je débarque en Ouganda le 22 octobre. Après, direction l'ouest du pays. Est-il possible, à partir des parcs de Bwindi, Mgahinga ou Queen Elizabeth, de rejoindre le Congo et plus particulièrement le volcan Nyaragongo sans passer par le Rwanda? Cela m'éviterait de payer deux fois le visa pour le Rwanda puisque je compte aussi visiter ce pays qui ne délivre pas de visa multi-entrées...

Par ailleurs, comme je tombe en pleine élection présidentielle au Congo (29 oct), faut-il éviter de se trouver dans le coin à ce moment-là selon vous?

Et comme je suis gourmand en infos, y a t-il des endroits à ne pas manquer en Ouganda ou Rwanda? Merci beaucoup!!

Hello,

After having to cancel our trip to Uganda in December 2020, we finally decided to go in December/January. We leave on December 28th and return on January 18th, which gives us 20 days and 20 nights there 🙂

The main goal of this trip is to meet primates, big and small. We won’t skip the birds and other mammals or the local culture and people, but we want to maximize our chances of meeting our monkey friends.

It’ll be a self-drive road trip with lodge stays. The 4x4 is booked, as are the chimpanzee and gorilla permits, and most of the accommodations.

I’m reaching out because I have a big question mark about my itinerary. Here’s what was originally planned (with the parts I’m unsure about in bold):

1 night in Entebbe on arrival day 1 night at Ziwa Rhino & Wildlife Ranch (rhino trek and shoebill trek) 2 nights at Murchison Falls NP (Murchison River Lodge) 2 nights at Lake Albert (Kabwoya Wildlife Reserve) 2 nights in Kibale (for the chimpanzee habituation day) 2 nights in Queen Elizabeth NP (chimpanzee trek in Kyambura Gorge) 2 nights in Bwindi, Ruhija sector (gorilla trek) 2 nights at Lake Mutanda (gorilla trek in Mgahinga) 1 night in Kisoro (golden monkey trek in Mgahinga) 1 night at Lake Bunyonyi 2 nights in Lake Mburo NP 2 nights near Mabamba Swamps (for the shoebill and to relax before flying back)

My "issue": The lodge at Lake Albert only has availability for the first of the 2 nights. So I’m hesitating between a few options (if you have other ideas, I’m all ears!):

1- Add an extra night at MFNP and make a stop somewhere between MFNP and Kibale. But where? 2- Keep 1 night at Lake Albert and do 3 nights in Kibale (but is 3 days in Kibale too much?) 3- Do 3 nights at MFNP and 3 nights in Kibale, with a long drive between the two 4- 2 nights at Lake Albert but at another lodge not in Kabwoya Wildlife Reserve (is there enough to fill 2 days? Any lodge recommendations?)

A huge thank you for your help and advice 🙂 Have a wonderful sunny weekend, Pascale

Preamble:

For summer 2019, the idea was to return to Africa. We had already been to Namibia in 2017 (+ a few days in Botswana and the end of the trip at Victoria Falls), which we loved, and a trip to Asia in 2018 (Borneo, Perhentian, and Singapore), a nature-focused trip but a bit disappointing due to environmental destruction. The desire to return to Africa was very strong. We wanted a change of scenery, nature, discoveries, to step out of our little comfort zone (a bit, anyway!) and experience travel differently. In short, we dreamed of authenticity, and we weren’t disappointed.

We traveled as a family of four with our daughters, aged 19 and 17. When the urge for Africa hit, Uganda quickly stood out, especially for the chance to see rare animals, particularly the famous mountain gorillas. When I looked into the budget, I was quickly disheartened. It’s really expensive. Too expensive… Then, after reading a few trip reports on "VoyageForum" (thanks Muriel J!), I decided to ask a local agency for a quote. The first contact was very friendly and responsive, and the initial offer for two weeks fit our budget :). A few images gathered from the internet (especially Sipi Falls) finally convinced us all. I asked for an adapted offer with a few more sites to extend the trip to three weeks and cover a fairly complete visit to the country (which, of course, increased the budget! To stay within an acceptable range, we prioritized activities over accommodations and regularly chose the cheapest options, with 2-3 nice lodges in between). It’s booked! We were in October 2018, and the first thing to do was reserve permits to see the gorillas and chimpanzees. Then, the agency took care of all the bookings except for the international flights, which we booked with Ethiopian Airlines. A few months of waiting to look forward to… and a little worry too! Two events didn’t reassure us: the kidnapping of an American tourist by four men at the DRC border and the Ebola outbreak in Congo, with confirmed cases in Uganda by mid-June…

Here we are in July, and departure is approaching. The suitcases are packed (warm clothes, long, short, dark, light, practical, sun, rain, hiking/trekking shoes, flip-flops—clothes for every situation! Don’t forget: headlamp (essential!), binoculars, cameras), and we’re ready.

One day before departure, our agency Mpolampola, through its manager Paul, informs us that he won’t be the one taking care of us during the trip but another guide named Moses. He has a big problem with a vehicle and can’t do otherwise. For us, as long as everything is okay, no worries, especially since I had read glowing reviews about Moses, who turned out to be a very pleasant guide, cautious (most important) on the road, clear about all the activities, and an expert on birds, his specialty. We briefly met Paul in the middle of the trip, who is also very friendly. In short, we 100% recommend this agency. Flights to Entebbe went smoothly; we arrived around 10:30 AM, filled out health forms (Ebola information signs everywhere), visas, baggage claim, and met Moses, who took us directly to the vehicle. It was in pretty good condition with huge tires (we’d understand why later!), but it had quite a few miles (400,000 on the odometer!). Just missing a seatbelt… Okay, it’s Africa!

Now, here’s our day-by-day itinerary, which I’ll summarize briefly with ratings for each activity: ****TOPISSIME (Amazing) ***Very good **Good *Meh

Day 1) Departure from the airport at 11:45 AM for some currency exchange. Stop along the way at the equator for a meal and souvenir photo! Arrival at Lake Mburo Park *** around 5:00 PM. Even before entering the park, we saw lots of antelopes, zebras, elks, etc.—it’s magnificent. On the way, we had already encountered many goats and cows, and we were impressed by their enormous horns. We enjoyed a nice game drive until about 7:00 PM, when we reached our lodge, one of the nicest of the trip, Eagle’s Nest ****, with a magnificent view, a tent with a nice bathroom/shower, and a very good meal.

Day 2) Departure at 7:00 AM for a game drive; we encountered many animals again, especially antelopes, zebras, and birds. There are no giraffes, lions, or cheetahs in this park. We didn’t get lucky enough to see a leopard… :-) Then, we continued to Lake Bunyonyi ***, where the road and views are very beautiful, but we were shocked to see locals (mostly women and children) breaking stones by hand on the mountainside in very precarious safety conditions. There are regularly dramatic accidents because, over time, entire sections detach and cause landslides. These stones are then used for road construction… Another world… This was the only place we saw this. Lake Bunyonyi is a nice stop (but less exotic in our opinion since we have many lakes back home too!). We took a boat to our accommodation, Byoona Amagara ***, which has a lot of charm. We stayed in huts called "geodomes," completely open to nature, so it was very cool at night. To reach the toilets located below, you had to be brave! The meal consisted of lake shrimp—good but a bit bland.

Day 3) After a good breakfast, departure at 9:00 AM to visit three islands. We took several nice walks with beautiful views of the lake and islands. A local meal was served on the last island. At 1:00 PM, we met Moses for the rest of the program and headed to Ruhija in Bwindi Forest****. The landscapes are breathtaking. After two hours of driving and many photo stops, we arrived at our accommodation near the trekking starting point, Ruhija Gorilla Friends Resort **. We stayed in a room instead of the initially planned tents, which was just as well because there was a lot of wind during the night. We still had time for an activity and decided to meet the Bwata pygmies despite the bad reviews in the guide… The first part of the visit was quite nice, with a visit to a school where the children gave us a very joyful welcome. We had a great time listening to them sing and dance! Then we met the Bwata pygmies who live on the edge of the forest. When Bwindi Forest was declared a national park, they had to leave their habitat because their activities weren’t compatible with nature and wildlife protection. We left on a somewhat sad note… The visit ended with a local doctor explaining different medicinal plants, and we watched the making of local beer from sorghum. Good meal. We had butterflies in our stomachs—tomorrow was a big day! I admit I was a bit stressed, not entirely confident in my physical abilities…

Day 4) After a short night due to excitement, breakfast, and departure at 7:30 AM. First, it started calmly with singing and dancing. Then, a 15-minute briefing and group assignments. No one asked if we had any physical problems or anything (when booking, I had inquired a bit, and they told me groups were assigned based on physical abilities). We were assigned to the Mukiza group. At first, I was pretty happy—it was a fairly large group with babies :). The ranger explained that for now, they didn’t know where the gorillas were… the trackers couldn’t find them… Oh… (that’s not a good sign!!!) We set off at a good pace, first on a reasonably sloped path. We were accompanied by a family of four Italians and five porters (four for us!). After an hour, the ranger stopped us and informed us they still couldn’t find them—they had fought with another group the day before and scattered throughout the forest, so they were very far away, and we needed to move faster… Hmm… we picked up the pace (we weren’t going slowly before!!!) and walked for another good hour—down, up, down again, up again, we kept going, but always more or less on paths. Then another stop. A 10-minute break waiting for news. The news wasn’t very precise, it seemed! The ranger decided to cut through the forest—machetes were used to clear the path. We descended unimaginable slopes, then climbed back up. Our stick kept getting stuck; luckily, our porter helped us, held our hands, and the terrain was vertical! An hour later, another stop: we heard gorilla cries (yay!!!). False hope—we waited again for news from the trackers, who informed our ranger that it was a non-habituated family, so we couldn’t see them. Cold shower—we had to go all the way back up and return to the starting point to maybe see another group. But time was running out… We arrived around 1:30 PM; all the other groups had already left long ago. Our guide was worried because we still had a long drive ahead. We quickly ate a banana, and off we went for another trek (I was exhausted!). Luckily, this group was close—about 45 minutes of steep descent (I was already thinking about the climb back and considering being adopted by a gorilla ). The forest was sublime, with magnificent tree ferns—the place was truly splendid. Finally, we were there. The porters stayed behind, we grabbed our cameras, and followed the ranger. The progress wasn’t easy, but suddenly, a female was in front of us, curled up in a little ball, eating—so cute. The emotion overwhelmed us. But she moved away—it’s hard to observe them; they move constantly, and the terrain is very steep and uneven. We saw a female descending from a tree with a baby on her back—too adorable. Then, here was the silverback, enormous, incredible, yet so calm and peaceful. He ate quietly and gave us a nice demonstration of nostril exploration! We could observe them for a good hour, but photographing them wasn’t easy because they kept moving, and we could barely stand! Toward the end, a large male (black back) suddenly stood up and decided to pass right where I was! I ended up in the bushes, and the male passed in front of me just a few centimeters away (he stepped on one of my daughters’ feet!) followed by the whole family. Just an exceptional moment. It was time to leave; we had to climb back up. I dreaded it because, I admit, I was exhausted. We finished the hike after 4:00 PM, exhausted but happy. The ranger gave us diplomas, and we didn’t linger because we still had a long drive—we needed to reach Ishasha before nightfall. Our guide was a bit stressed. If we were to do it again, we’d spend an extra night in Bwindi. However, it seems finishing so late is exceptional—it never happens, according to our guide! The road between Bwindi and Ishasha is sublime, with extraordinary landscapes, and despite the late hour, we regularly asked our guide to stop for photos. We arrived at Enjojo *** Lodge around 6:00 PM. The huts are located quite far from the reception and the bathrooms, a bit far from the huts, but otherwise, it was very nice.

Day 5) Departure at 8:00 AM after a good breakfast with the hope of seeing tree-climbing lions (no luck!). Overall, there weren’t many animals, and we arrived around 12:45 PM at our next stop, Parkview Safari Lodge ****, with a magnificent view, a beautiful family bungalow, and a good meal. We enjoyed a short relaxation by the lovely pool. At 4:00 PM, we left to see Kyambura Gorge *** and hike there. Unfortunately, this activity is no longer available, so we walked around the area—it was very beautiful. Back at the hotel, a little rest after the previous day wasn’t a bad idea! Reading, swimming, meals, and dances made the end of the day enjoyable.

Day 6) Departure at 6:30 AM—one of our daughters was sick (stomachache, cold sweats…). Safari in Queen Elizabeth ** (Kaseny Plains)—a bit disappointing. Stop by the salt lake with a nice view. A small market, but we weren’t thrilled by the crafts (overall, apart from some beautiful baskets/plates, there wasn’t much, and the wooden objects were, in our opinion, much less pretty than in Namibia). Then we took the crater road (27 km long) **** with magnificent landscapes. However, you absolutely must close the windows because it’s infested with tsetse flies. At noon, we arrived at Mweya, where we stayed in basic rooms, but the restaurant was well-placed with a beautiful view of the Kazinga Channel. At 2:00 PM, we enjoyed a magnificent cruise **** on the channel. Elephants, antelopes, crocodiles, hippos (including adorable babies), buffaloes, all kinds of birds. Wow!!! Two hours of pure bliss. Quiet end of the day playing cards with a view of the channel and elephants.

Day 7) Departure at 6:00 AM—still sick, we weren’t sure if it was due to the preventive treatment (Malarone) or something else… Another game drive in Queen Elizabeth (Kaseny Plains) and breakfast by the salt lake. Overall, we were a bit disappointed by this park. Then we took the road to Crater Lakes***, again with very beautiful landscapes. A hike of about an hour and a half allowed us to discover these beautiful crater lakes (the water mainly comes from the Rwenzoris). We crossed pretty villages and had nice encounters. End of the day at Tinka’s Home ****, with a family. We loved this place—very welcoming, where we took a cooking class with our hosts. A really great time. After the meal, we enjoyed African stories and dances. Really awesome.

Day 8) Departure at 7:30 AM for another highly anticipated discovery—the chimpanzees in Kibale Forest ****. We went to the meeting point and were split into groups of six, each with a guide. We saw three different groups, and for the last group, we followed a chimpanzee (slightly more comfortable running in the forest than we were!) that led us to the group. Their cries are very impressive, and we could observe them well, even though they were often high up in the trees. We were lucky enough to see two on the ground, very close to us. It was magnificent. End of the encounter and return to the starting point—it was noon. We went back to Tinka’s Home for the meal (delicious!). At 2:00 PM, we hiked in Bigodi Swamp ***, a marsh surrounded by beautiful vegetation, especially huge papyrus, and inhabited by many birds and monkeys. We saw, among others, black-and-white colobus monkeys, red colobus monkeys, and vervet monkeys. We also visited a basket-weaving workshop where we bought two beautiful baskets. Then a short stop in Fort Portal, where we stayed for two nights at Ruwenzori View Guesthouse ***, a nice place with a family room and very good communal meals.

Day 9) Departure at 8:00 AM for a hike in the Rwenzori****—it was a bit chaotic today. First, we had to exchange shillings because we wouldn’t have another chance in the following days. At the bank, employees went to get the bills by motorcycle from other buildings—it was quite surreal! And it took time! Then there was a misunderstanding between the organizer and me… I really wanted to see the region where chameleons are found in the Rwenzori—this region is south of the mountain range, and we were in the north! Anyway, the program included an ascent in the northern part with a positive elevation gain of over 1,500 meters… Talking to the guide scheduled for this hike (Noah), we explained that we really wanted to discover the vegetation and these famous chameleons, not necessarily achieve a physical feat… (we’d had enough!). The decision was made to go south, which meant quite a bit of driving. The hike was really enjoyable, with magnificent vegetation by the river. We saw three of the four chameleon species present, including the famous three-horned chameleon. The region is superb. We ended with a drink at Ruboni Camp, which has a magnificent view of the region (ideally, we should have stayed there). Two hours of driving to finish, and a good meal :).

Day 10) Departure at 8:00 AM—we had a long drive to Ziwa Rhino Ranch****. We passed through Hoima, had lunch in Masindi, and arrived in time for the rhino tracking walk. We could approach them closely on foot—it was impressive. We saw eight. Since we were staying on-site in the guesthouse **, we received precise safety instructions for moving between the rooms and the restaurant. And we quickly understood why!

Day 11) Departure at 6:00 AM for breakfast—surprise, in front of our room, several large rhinos were sleeping (we had also heard a lot of animal noises during the night—rhinos but also what seemed to be predators). So we had to take a detour to reach the restaurant! Second surprise—next to the restaurant, just three meters away at most, two mothers and their baby were also sleeping! Memorable! Then we had an appointment for the shoebill trek and canoe ride **** (package with the previous day’s walk). So there we were, in our boots, splashing through 30 cm of water in search of the shoebill (I really wanted to see one :))! It was really fun, and luck was on our side—a shoebill had just landed in the distance! We approached as best we could and observed it from afar. What a strange bird! There are very few left, and Uganda is one of the countries where the chances of seeing one are quite good. The tour continued with a canoe cruise where we saw a herd of cows (the famous ones with enormous horns) being swum as a dowry to the father of the future bride! A funny spectacle. This stop wasn’t the most anticipated, but we all thought it was really worth the detour. Road to Murchison Falls Park, and arrival around noon at Red Chili Rest Camp **, where we stayed for two nights (family banda). Good meal. Then a cruise to Murchison Falls*** where we disembarked and continued on foot. It was pretty. Back to Red Chili.

Day 12) This morning, early departure for a cruise in search of the shoebill*** (booked in case we didn’t see one at Ziwa). The landscapes were pretty, but there weren’t many birds in the end. We spotted the chosen one from afar after the first 10 minutes—so the suspense didn’t last long :-) It was a nice activity but quite long—5 hours. In the afternoon, safari in Murchison Park****—this park is sublime, the landscapes fabulous. Really one of our favorite parts of the trip. Lots of animals and even a leopard spotted with binoculars because it was far away! Night at Red Chili.

Day 13) Departure for the first morning ferry—it was drizzling, the sky was threatening at first, so the landscape was spectacular! Beautiful contrasts. In the middle of the morning, we were lucky to observe a whole group of lions, first from afar, then with a little patience, the whole group approached until they passed beside and in front of our vehicle. What emotion and excitement! We could then observe large groups of giraffes. They were magnificent. The morning was incredible. Then we headed to our lodge, Fort Murchison ****, and on the way, we saw a whole group of elephants—the view was magnificent. We had a very good meal and enjoyed the pool a bit. We also met Paul, the organizer of our trip. Very nice :). In the late afternoon, off for a short safari in the park. We slept in very well-equipped tents.

Day 14) Today, we had a long drive to Kidepo Park. It was raining, which didn’t help our guide—according to him, the tracks near Kidepo turn to mud with rain and become difficult to navigate. We saw, among other things, a bus in a bad situation in the ditch. Some sections were really tricky, and we were glad to have a driver. The end of the trip—the landscape was spectacular and original, and we saw some traditional villages. We arrived at Kidepo quite late. Short safari in the park before reaching the accommodation. We booked two simple bandas in the park camp**. It was clean but didn’t hold up well in the rain . The restaurant was very nice, though.

Day 15) The day was dedicated to discovering Kidepo Park **** where the landscapes were again superb. First encounter with a lioness resting on a rock. We saw other lions later and observed them for a long time. There were almost no other tourists in the park. Our daughter wasn’t feeling well, and by the time we arrived at the lodge, she had a temperature of 39.5°C (103.1°F)… A nap was necessary. In the late afternoon, we returned to the spot where we had seen the lions that morning, and they were still there—they weren’t happy because rain was threatening! It was a great photo opportunity. Then came the downpour, and our driver urged us to return quickly because the tracks were becoming impassable. Indeed, a jeep was in the ditch… The return was eventful, and several times we slid without being able to do anything… Wow, what a day!

Day 16) No safari this morning because of impassable tracks—the road to Kotido*** was longer than expected as we had to take a detour. The landscapes along the way were surprising. We finally arrived around 1:00 PM at the accommodation and left at 3:00 PM to visit the largest manyatta in East Africa with two translators. It was incredible—a very beautiful experience. The manyatta is immense and has 28,000 inhabitants. Night at Karamojaarts guesthouse*—very average meal.

Day 17) Departure for Moroto****—on the way, we saw many bird species. Moroto doesn’t look like other Ugandan cities. Life there seems very pleasant. We arrived at Kara-Tunga and had a bite to eat. At 4:00 PM, we left to visit a Karamojong village. We enjoyed beautiful dances and watched communal games—it was fun and so authentic. Then we headed to a kraal (where shepherds and herds are) to set up our camp. Moses had to get used to the idea of sleeping in the tribe in a tent! It was incredible to find ourselves in this universe. The place was beautiful, and we had a great time with the Karamojong. Some had never seen white people… had never been in a car… Their culture is incredible. During the evening, around the fire, to our guide’s dismay (a bird enthusiast), they grilled hornbills! On our side, we ate a meal prepared by Kara-Tunga for our sensitive stomachs! Night in a tent.

Day 18) Dawn wake-up in the fog—the atmosphere was quite strange. Our daughter was attacked by a cow—fortunately, more fear than harm, but she ended up with a lot of thorns in her buttocks and thighs ! Then we left for the Mount Elgon region, specifically Sipi Falls****. Lacam Lodge****, perched on the edge of the cliff with a direct view of one of the falls, was just magnificent. The view and landscapes were fabulous. Big favorite. We had dinner and then went for a hike to visit the three falls in the region, partly in the rain. The landscapes were breathtaking! Sunset at Lacam Lodge with the sun setting over the waterfall. We couldn’t get enough and stayed to admire until nightfall!

Day 19) Visit to coffee plantations*** where we were given all the useful explanations to understand the culture and the incredible work required for this product, which is ultimately not very glorified. The visit was very interesting, and we drank very good coffee with the owners. Last photos at Lacam Lodge, and then departure for Jinja, where we arrived in the middle of the afternoon. We took a small cruise to see the source of the Nile*. Very touristy and not at all to our taste… Then a meal at Jinja Base Camp** where we enjoyed guacamole. Our guide Moses left us because another group was waiting for him!

Day 20) Road to Kampala***, the market, the Gaddafi Mosque. Short but interesting visit. Last meal in Entebbe by Lake Victoria, where we almost felt like we were by the sea. Transfer to the airport and return to Switzerland…

Epilogue: All four of us were enchanted by this trip, which will undoubtedly remain one of the most beautiful we’ve ever taken. Talking about it gives me chills and brings tears to my eyes. It was simply a magnificent experience. However, I wouldn’t recommend this trip to everyone because you often have to overlook small inconveniences like toilets (the worst of my life) and certain comfort details that, for us, remain details but could be important to others.

Our favorites: - The gorilla trek - The cruise on Kazinga Channel - The Fort Portal region - The Rwenzori Mountains - The chimpanzee trek - Murchison Falls - Kidepo - Spending time with the Karamojong tribe - The Sipi Falls region - The accommodations: Eagle’s Nest, Byonna Amagara, Parkview Lodge, Tinka’s Home, Rwenzori Guesthouse, Fort Murchison, Night in the kraal, and Lacam Lodge

What we liked less: - Queen Elizabeth Park - Jinja - The accommodations: Ziwa Rhino Ranch, Karamojaarts Guesthouse

I’ll try to post some photos later. If you have any questions about a future trip, I’d be happy to answer them.

Bonjour à tous,

Nous prévoyons un voyage en Ouganda l'été prochain, environ 3 semaines (maximum). Nous partons à 4 avec nos deux filles qui auront 19 et 17 ans. Actuellement en contact avec un guide local, (nous ne voulons pas faire de self-drive...), c'est au niveau de l'itinéraire que je suis coincée...

Au départ, nous hésitions entre plusieurs destinations (entre autre : la Chine), mais l'envie de retourner en Afrique est la plus forte et toute le famille ressent la même chose...

Voici ce que nous prévoyons déjà :

Lake Bunyonyi Ruhija (Bwindi) Ishasha (Wueen Elizabeth) Meeya (Queen Elizabeth) Kibale Forest Murchison Falls Sipi Falls (qui ont l'air magnifiques)

environ 2 semaines pour ce parcours je pense

Les étapes dont nous hésitons pour la semaine supplémentaire :

Lake Mburo (est-ce que ce parc en vaut la peine ?), je suis un peu sceptique Mgahinga National Park (la randonnée à Mount Sabyony a l'air trop difficile...) Lake Mutanda

ou Kidepo National Park (est-ce ok niveau sécurité ? et juillet août, est ce que cela en vaut la peine, j'ai lu le contraire...), nous souhaiterions voir des animaux évidemment... et surtout des guépards et je crois que c'est le seul parc d'Ouganda où il y en a.

Si vous pouviez m'aider dans mes choix, ça serait formidable !! Aussi si certaines étapes manquent, n'hésitez pas à me le dire, je n'ai pas encore reçu le Bradt (en commande) et le Petit Futé n'est pas très très détaillé...

J'attends aussi bien impatiemment le retour des voyageurs qui y sont cet été !!!

Un grand merci à vous tous et bon dimanche.

Hello amis passionnés de voyages,

Après la Namibie, le Botswana, le Zimbabwe et la Zambie c’est vers l’Ouganda qu’on envisage de traîner nos roues. Comme d’habitude 4x4 avec tentes sur le toit

Voici une ébauche d'itinéraire que j'aurais aimé vous soumettre:

Jour 1 – Arrivée – prise en main du véhicule à l’aéroport d’ Entebbe – à priori Alpha Rent A Car (2 véhicules) Nuit à Jinja ( 2h de Kampala sur la route de Mbale )

Jour 2 – Route vers Mount Elgon via Tororo – (211km- 4h de route) Mount Elgon nuit au Lacam Lodgeo

Jour 3 – journée sur place Mount Elgon -nuit au Lacam Lodge,

Jour 4 – Route vers Moroto Hotel ( 309km – 6h) Trajet Nuit à Mount Moroto Hotel

Jour 5 – route vers Kidepo National Park – (255km 5h) Trajet nuit à Apoka Rest Camp

Jour 6 – visite du parc – Narus Valley Kidepo NP nuit à Apoka Rest Camp

Jour 7 – 2ème journée dans le parc Kidepo NP nuit à Apoka Rest Camp

Jour 8 – route vers Murchison Falls NP – (271km 6h) – entrée à Wangkwar gate Trajet nuit à Heritage safari lodge

Jour 9 – journée dans le parc Murchison Falls nuit Delta Camp ou Nord Bank Campsite

Jour 10 – journée dans le parc + un peu de route (181 kms – 3.5h) Kabwoya Wildlife Reserve - ce stop c'est pour couper la route qui me paraissait trop longue 🤪 Nuit Lake Albert Lodge

Jour 11 – route vers Kibal Forest (194 – 5h) Kibale Forest Nuit à Kanyanchu Rest Camp

Jour 12 – Chimp track + marais Bigodi Kibale Forest nuit à Kanyanchu Rest Camp ( ?)

Jour 13 – Fort Portal – Semliki (89 kms – 2.5 h) Semliki Game Reserve Nuit Semliki Safari Lodge

Jour 14 – journée dans le parc Semliki Reserve et NP Nuit Bumaga Campsite

Jour 15 – trajet (163 kms 4h) Queen Elisabeth NP nuit à Queen Elizabeth Bush Lodge

J16 – Journée dans le parc Queen Elisabeth NP nuit à Jacana camp

J17 – journée dans le parc Queen Elizabeth NP - secteur Ishasha nuit à Ishaha Campsite

J18 – trajet (77 kms 3h) Bwindi Forest Ruhija community Rest Camp

J19 – Gorille Track Bwindi Forest Ruhiha Community Rest Camp

J20 – trajet (248 kms 6h) Lac M’Buro nuit au Rwonyo Rest camp

J21 – rte vers Entebbe – 245km 5h Retour véhicule Nuit sur place

J22 – vol retour

Une de mes grandes questions concerne Kibale Forest et les chimpanzés: où les voir ?. Pour le moment j'avais prévu à Kibale, puisque c'est l'endroit le plus connu. En revanche j'ai lu qu'il y avait un peu beaucoup de monde et que même si au début on part par petits groupes, une fois que les chimpanzés sont trouvés tout le monde rapplique au même endroit 😮. Les autres solutions sont la faille de Kambura dans le Queen Elizabeth NP, beaucoup plus confidentiel mais sans garantie d'arriver à les voir. L'autre possibilité c'est dans la forêt de Kanyiyo Pabidi à Murchison Falls.

A part les chimpanzés voit-on autant d'animaux sur les 3 sites (je pense notamment aux autres espèces de singes).

Après à Kibale il y a le marais de Bigodi, vraiment exceptionnel ?

Vous allez dire que j'en veux à Kibale, mais en fait je me dis que si je supprimais les 2 nuits à Kibale je pourrais prendre plus mon temps à Murchison Falls (1 nuit) et à Semliki (1 nuit également)

Donc si quelqu'un à un avis, conseil c'est avec plaisir 😛

Merci d'avance🙂

max

Bonjour, Après l'Islande, cette année çà sera l'Ouganda. L'Afrique équatoriale est une première pour nous.Je viens donc soumettre mon itinéraire( somme toute assez standard pour un premier voyage dans ce pays) et chercher à parfaire le tracé, la répartition des jours en fonction des avis qui seront émis. alors en gros: -arrivée à entebbe vers 14H -deux nuits à kampala, pour récupérer la voiture et prendre le temps de visiter un peu la capitale -deux nuits au WILDWATERS LODGE près de jinja( visite de jinja +rafting) -une nuit au ZIWA RHINO SANCTUARY(pour que la route ne soit pas trop longue jusqu'au lodge suivant) -trois nuits au MURCHINSON RIVER LODGE à l'extérieur du parc( deux jours de visite du parc avec notre propre voiture, chutes....) Pour nous rendre au lodge, après Masindi, je pensais prendre la route qui longe le lac Albert(par bulisa) pour la vue, et éviter de traverser le parc (éviter donc les droits d'entrée ) Si quelqu'un a déjà emprunté cette route???? -une nuit à FORT PORTAL (simple stop sur la route vers Kibale) -deux nuits au CHIMPS NEST, en route j'aimerai faire un stop dans la zone des "crater lake" avant d'entrer dans le parc. Est-ce vraiment possible? A Kibale nous pensons réserver la journée aux chimpanzés. -deux nuits dans le nord du QENP au TWIN LAKES LODGE -deux nuits dans le sud au ISHASHA WILDERNESS CAMP -trois nuits au NSONGI CAMP( gorilles et une journée de visite aux alentours) pou atteindre le camp, je pense opter pour la route , peut être la moins belle, mais un peu plus rapide, celle qui passe par Kanungu.Si quelqu'un a déjà relié ishasha au Nsongi camp, par cette route, je suis preneuse de renseignements, car çà semble un peu chaotique ... -trois nuits au lac Mburo pour faire des marches, du vélo.... -Deux nuits à Entebbe avant de repartir, pour explorer le lac victoria..

Concernant les entrées dans les parcs, je voulais savoir si nous devons payer les droits quand on traverse dans Kibale forest pour se rendre à notre hébergement??? Un autre point reste un peu flou pour moi: Pour les véhicules, je crois comprendre que c'est par visite, et pas par 24H(comme les entrées personnes)Est-ce-que cela veut dire que deux journées consécutives dans un parc ne sont facturées que 150USD, ou 150 par jour???(nous avons un 4X4)

Tous vos conseils seront d'une aide précieuse, alors merci d'avance de vos réponse

Bonjour Depuis longtemps l'idée d'aller en Ouganda ou Rwanda nous trotte dans la tête . Nous n'avons que 10 jours ( hélas) et ne souhaitons pas mixer les 2 pays. Alors ouganda ou rwanda ? En sachant que nous ne prendrons de toute façon pas de permis pour voir les gorilles qui à 5 sont trop prohibitifs) Avec une voiture et chauffeur est-il facile de s'organiser? Que nous conseillez vous de visiter ? Nous adorons observr les animaux et rencontrer la population. Quid du prix pour se loger ? ( le parc queen Elisabeth a l'air hors de prix ?)

Merci de vos reponses!🙂

Sylvie

bonjour

Qui connait backpackers a kampala? ils organisent des excursions.

Sinon quelles sont les societes serieuses basées a kampala pour organiser un circuit sur place? (des moins cheres au plus please) J'envisage toujours de me rendre en ouganda en 2009; 3 objectifs (les gorilles, deux parcs type queen elisabeth et lake mburo, et seese islands) J'envisage de prendre soit un vehicule soit une excursion pour les parcs et gorilles; pour seese islands je me debrouillerai seul

Merci de vos conseils.

Bonjour,

Tout a commencé lors de nos vacances en Namibie en été 2016. J'ai réservé un Lodge sympa pour le soir d'anniversaire de notre fille, nous avons donc pris nos quartiers à l’Onguma Tree Top proche d'Etosha. Ce Lodge a seulement quatre bungalows sur pilotis, le soir tout le monde mange à la même table et c'est comme ça que nous avons fait la connaissance d'un couple italien très charmant.

Monsieur nous a raconté son voyage en Ouganda, en fait, il nous a surtout parlé du tracking des gorilles. A la maison, en réfléchissant à ce que nous voulions faire en juillet 2017, nous avons repensé au récit enthousiasmé du monsieur italien et la décision a été vite prise. Nous partirons en Ouganda !

J'ai lu quelques récits de voyage sur l'Ouganda. Il y en a très peu sur VF, mais j'ai aussi trouvé quelques retours d'expériences sur un Forum allemand. Je me suis vite rendue compte que je n'aurais pas le temps de préparer ce voyage comme je le fais habituellement. Et, les galères de certains avec leur voiture de location ne m'encourageait que moyennement. Bref, nous passerons par une agence sur place et prendrons un chauffeur-guide.

Après avoir contacté l'agence Speke Uganda, nous avons pris la décision de voyager avec un petit groupe de maximum six personnes, un guide et un chauffeur. Je dois bien avouer que le fait de voyager avec d'autres personnes me faisait un peu de soucis. Mais voilà, ça revenait quand-même moins cher et le programme avait l'air alléchant. Bref, nous avons payé l'acompte et n'avions plus qu'à nous réjouir. De ne pas préparer nos visites, ne pas choisir nos Lodges, me faisait quand-même un drôle d'effet. J'ai été heureusement bien occupée avec la préparation de notre voyage en Afrique du Sud et Namibie pour l'automne 2017.

L'option de faire deux trackings pour voir les gorilles a été vite prise. Nous en ferons un en Ouganda et un autre au Rwanda. Au moment de notre réservation, l'augmentation du prix pour le tracking au Rwanda n'a heureusement pas encore eu lieu.

La maman et son petit Faire deux trackings a beaucoup d'avantages. Premièrement, on ne sait pas comment les gorilles vont se comporter. Seront-ils stationnaires ou faudra-t-il leur "courir" après. Cela permet aussi de voir deux familles différentes, donc d'avoir deux expériences distinctes.

Juste quelques mots sur l'agence. Nous sommes très contents de leur service. Les guides et chauffeurs (vous verrez plus loin pourquoi j'écris guides et chauffeurs au pluriel) étaient super sympas et se pliaient en quatre pour nous satisfaire. Tony, le patron de Speke Uganda nous a contactés deux fois pendant le voyage, afin de savoir si tout allait bien et si nous avions des désirs spécifiques. Bref, on peut dire que le suivi a été excellent.

Les hôtels et Lodges ont été en général bien à très bien, d'un bon standard pour les régions traversées et très propres. Nos guides faisaient très attention où nous mangions. D'après eux, nos estomacs ne supporteraient pas la nourriture proposée dans certains restaurants ou stands de rues. En Ouganda, l'eau n'est pas potable et il faut se méfier des aliments crus et lavés avec cette eau. Nous avions des bouteilles d'eau dans chaque salle de bain, car même rincer sa bouche ou sa brosse à dents avec de l'eau du robinet est déconseillé.

Nous avons été enchantés des parcs nationaux et avons été bien gâtés avec les animaux. Nous ne pensions pas en voir autant, ça été donc une excellente surprise.

Voilà, place au récit jour après jour. J'espère que vous aurez du plaisir à nous suivre.

Bonjour

Je viens de rentrer d'Ouganda et du Rwanda. Je suis prête a donner renseignements et répondre à questions.

Merci

Antigone

Hi everyone, I’m heading to Uganda in January. I’ll be backpacking and using local transport as much as possible. I plan to do the Rwenzori Mountains and see the gorillas. Can you hire guides on the spot, or should I book accommodations in advance? I’d love any tips. Thanks

Bonjour,

Je pars en Ouganda dans 10 jours (du 3 décembre au 10 décembre) et j'aimerai bien avoir vos conseils, remarques sur l'itinéraire que je pense faire.

Pour vous faire une idée du type de voyage, je part avec un ami, on a la trentaine, on va en Ouganda d'abord pour voir nos amis les gorilles et autre anumaux de tout poil, mais aussi pour essayer de rencontrer les locaux et admirer de beaux paysages...

Je sais en 1 semaine c'est court, trop court, et on va devoir fair des choix.

Pour l'instant on a seulement les permis gorille (a Nkuringbo), les billets d'avions et on a louer un 4x4 en self drive.

Voici le programme avec quelques interrogations:

Jour 1 - Dimanche 4 Décembre: Arrivé a l'aeroport a 4h00 dui matin. On recupère le 4x4 A 6H00 et on pars... On hésite entre: LAKE MBURO NATIONAL PARK (3-4 heures de route) et LAKE BUNYIONYI (6-7 heures de route)

Que recomendez-vous?

Jour 2 - Lundi 5 Décembre: Game drive si on est a MBURO ou visite des environs si on est au LAC BUNYIONYI puis route vers BWINDI.

Jour 3 - Mardi 6 Décembre: Treck Gorille NKURINBO a BWINDI Jour 4 - Mercredi 7 Décembre:

Matin: Route vers NATIONAL PARK QUEEN ELISABETH Jour 5 - Jeudi 8 Décembre:

Matin: Game drive au NATIONAL PARK QUEEN ELISABETH. Quelles zone conseillez-vous? (On ira pas a Ishasha.)

Après midi: route vers Kebale Jour 6 - Vendredi 9 Décembre:

Matin: Trecking CHIMPANZÉ a KEBALE. (On a pas encore les permis, on verra sur place en fonction du planning si on a le temps...)

Après midi: Route vers ENTEBBE. Nous devons arriver vers 19h - 20h a l'aeroport pour déposer le 4x4. Avion à 5h00 du matin le samedi matin

Je sais que ce planning est très charger pour 6 jours, surement trop...

Si vous avez des conseils, je suis preneur...

Grand merci!

Clément

Bonjour,

j'essaie de contacter l'UWA pour des infos sur le permis de visite des gorilles mais je n'ai pas de réponses de leur part. Auriez-vous les mails de contacts y travaillant et que vous connaissez autres que les mails indiqués sur leur site?

Merci d'avance!