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Voyager en camping-car en Namibie
by Bouclet · 2019-08-20 · 34 replies
Je lis beaucoup de vos très intéressants messages sur le forum mais je n’ai rien vu sur la possibilité de voyager en camping car en Namibie. Pourriez vous m’éclairer à ce sujet ? Merci à vous Sophie
Récit de 28 jours en Namibie
by Thahie · 2019-08-14 · 140 replies
Nous sommes de retour de 28 jours en Namibie. Nous sommes partis à deux 4X4 avec des amis marseillais en majorité en camping. Il faut reconnaître que lorsqu'on prévoit 80 à 90% de pistes, il est toujours très sécurisant de savoir qu'on a un deuxième véhicule en cas de pépin. D'autant plus que, sur certaines pistes, nous n'avons pas croisé énormément de monde. Sur base d'un itinéraire concocté par nos soins, nous sommes passés via la société Namvic pour confirmer que tout tenait la route et pour la location des véhicules ainsi que pour les réservations de camping. Namvic a un contact à Paris, Pascal, ce qui est bien entendu plus simple pour les échanges. Le véhicule était un 4X4 de deuxième catégorie, c'est-à-dire un véhicule qui avait déjà pas mal baroudé. Cela fait sans doute moins "standing" mais le portefeuille s'en porte mieux et finalement il sera aussi poussiéreux et sâle qu'un neuf. La vraie différence est dans l'agencement du coffre. Pour nous, il fallait vider le coffre chaque jour pour accéder au matériel, ou au frigo alors que les nouveaux véhicules sont mieux pensés et donc plus pratiques. Pour le camping, nous disposions de deux tentes sur le toit qui se montaient en 5 minutes et se repliaient en 10 jusqu'à la troisième semaine où, avec la poussière et l'âge les tirettes devenaient difficiles à refermer et les jurons commencaient à fuser. En humidifant les tirettes avec de l'eau ou avec du liquide vaisselle, on vient à bout de se repliage. J'ai été assez étonnée du confort de ces tentes. Pas mal de place, un matelas finalement confortable, oreillers et sacs de couchage fournis. Nous avions un téléphone satellite et un petit GSM avec un peu de forfait afin de pouvoir appeler si nécessaire. Deux roues de secours mais que nous n'utiliserons heureusement pas. Les assurances sont compliquées en Namibie, il n' y a pas grand chose de couvert. Nous étions assurés pour un accident avec un tiers, un animal mais il fallait pouvoir prouver par des photos notre bonne foi, le bris du pare-brise et un pneu, tout le reste était à notre charge. Cela paraît assez complet mais quand on tente de compter le nombre de cailoux qui tapent la voiture, les animaux qui traversent inopinément et l'état de certaines pistes, la prudence est de mise. Aussi si un couvercle de casserole est perdu, et bien il faut payer la casserole soit une vingtaine d'euros, tout doit revenir en l'état sous peine de frais supplémentaires lorsqu'on rend le véhicule. Le véhicule doit être également nettoyé afin que la société puisse aisément vérifier l'état du véhicule, sinon de nouveau c'est facturé. Nous avons de notre côté profité d'un des derniers campings pour donner un coup de chiffon car il y avait un tuyau, ce qui n'est pas forcément possible en lodge. Pour le trajet, nous avons resigné avec Qatar en passant par Doha, Johannesburg puis Windhoek via South Africa Airlines. Namvic nous avait déconseillé de passer par Johannesburg, apparemment connu pour ses problèmes de bagages. Les compagnies aériennes l'ont bien compris car les vols évitant l'Afrique du Sud étaient hors de prix. Pour nous tout s'est bien passé mais nos amis qui voyageaient de Marseile avec Turkish ont eu des soucis avec le dernier vol assuré par Namibian Airlines. Ils ont perdu une journée, bloqués à Johannesburg, et ils ont du courir après leurs bagages. J'ai rencontré pas mal de gens qui avaient un à deux jours de retard sur leur itinéraire à cause de bagages perdus.
Péripéties d'une famille en terres namibiennes
by Tidju · 2019-07-28 · 131 replies
Il règne une atmosphère un peu étrange ce weekend à la maison… Alors que d’habitude, à la veille d’un grand départ la tension et l’agitation dominent ; cette année c’est le calme. Tellement calme que le weekend nous paraît long. Tellement long que l’impatience nous ronge intérieurement ; comme une boule au ventre prête à exploser d’émerveillement au fil des surprises et rencontres qui nous attendent au cours des 4 prochaines semaines.

La Namibie c’est une grande première pour toute la tribu. Si avec nos 3 enfants nous avons coutume de poser nos valises sur le sol américain, cette année cap au Sud ! Autre façon de voyager aussi, puisque notre habituel combo SUV+motels laisse place à l’inévitable 4x4 avec le motel – euh la tente – sur le toit… A nous la zenitude des ciels étoilés au milieu du désert ! Nous sommes adeptes des randos dans le wilderness des US ; cette année nous plongeons dans une autre dimension de la notion des grands espaces. Et pourquoi fait-il si calme à la maison alors ?? Parce que nous sommes fin prêts. Tous les sacs sont bouclés depuis vendredi soir ; alors qu’on ne décolle que ce dimanche à 17h… Nous sommes confiants. Parce que tout est réservé sur place via Madiza Tours à Windhoek. Parce que le forum nous a procuré les excellents conseils indispensables à l’établissement et la réussite d’un tel itinéraire que nous voulons « plein la vue sans trop se presser ». Merci encore à tous ceux qui l’alimentent quotidiennement !

J’ai pris l’habitude de rédiger mes carnets de voyage au-jour-le-jour ; seule façon selon moi d’immortaliser des souvenirs tellement forts et nombreux que je crains que les détails ne soient trop éphémères. Même si cela demande un certain investissement en temps, quel bonheur quand ces souvenirs se ravivent à la relecture des semaines, des mois, des années plus tard ! Quand je voyage aux Etats-Unis, je prends plaisir aussi à partager mes notes et photos journalières en live (ou presque) sur le forum. Notes qui servent ensuite à la rédaction plus formelle de mon blog -
http://photoolivier.com/wp/decouverte-usa/. Ici en Namibie, je sais que le défi sera de taille, étant donné l’absence quasi complète de connexion internet tout au long de notre périple, et le manque d’électricité pour recharger l’ordi ; le traditionnel « live » risque d’accuser rapidement un sacré différé ; mais qu’importe ! C’est un ressenti « à chaud » que nous voulons partager.

Aussi, nous vous invitons par le biais de ce carnet à prendre place sur le toit de notre 4x4, et à en prendre plein la vue autant que nous alors que nous dévalons les pistes namibiennes. Nombre de places illimitées 😊

Olivier
Trois semaines au Pérou en voiture de location: Retour d’expérience
by Bouclet · 2018-08-18 · 17 replies
Je ne vais pas vous donner l’itinéraire détaillé que nous avons fait pendant ces trois semaines, mais je vais plutôt vous donner mon sentiment général. Tout abord comme dans toute grande ville, il y a un peu de petite délinquance et donc beaucoup de vols. J’en ai malheureusement fait les frais à Lima, mon sac contenant mon passeport et toutes mes cartes de crédit a été volé dans un restaurant. Je vous recommande donc d’être très vigilant et d’avoir un œil sur vos affaires en permanence. Cela nous a valu une nuit supplémentaire à Lima pour pouvoir faire toutes les démarches nécessaires auprès de l’ambassade et du service d’immigration pour refaire un passeport provisoire. Nous avons donc dû supprimer une nuit à la réserve de Paracas mais ensuite nous avons repris l’itinéraire prévu . Nous avions donc pris l’option de louer une voiture. Alors c’est vrai que nous sommes totalement libre. Et c’est un avantage certain. Mais il faut savoir que la plupart des routes est en très mauvais état, beaucoup de trous, de tas de pierre qui rendent la traversée des villes très compliquée surtout avec un trafic énorme de taxis en tout genre (2,3 ou 4 roues) et aucune règle de conduite de respectée. Même si nous ne le regrettons pas forcément nous ne le conseillerions pas non plus , où alors peut-être avec un 4 × 4. Il faut savoir également qu’en altitude les nuits sont très froides même en juillet, il peut même parfois geler. Les chambres d.hotel ne sont pas chauffées, et l’eau chaude n’est pas toujours disponible.Je remercie Toutperou car tous les hôtels conseillés avaient de l’eau chaude en suffisance. En ce qui concerne la diversité des paysages vous ne pourriez être déçu. Ils sont tout simplement magnifique et variés. La montagne aux 7 couleurs est tout simplement sublime. Il est nécessaire d’avoir une certaine condition physique car l’Ascension est assez pénible vu le manque d’oxygène à 5000 m d’altitude. Mais une certaine fierté nous envahit quand nous arrivons enfin au sommet et surtout nous sommes bien récompensé par la vue extraordinaire qui nous attend là haut. Pour, Les derniers mètres nous faisions 5 pas, une pause, 5 pas, une Pause ! Mais quelle beauté ! Par contre, petit coup de gueule : s’il vous plaît si vous n’arrivez pas à monter n’Utilisez pas les pauvres chevaux et surtout aussi leur maître pour terminer l’Ascension ils sont aussi essoufflés et épuisés que vous. J’avais lu dans les guides, les forums…que la nourriture au Pérou était bonne et en effet elle était vraiment excellente nous n’avons jamais été déçu quelque soit l’endroit où nous avons mangé. Il nous est arrivé encore une sale blague quand nous avons pris le train en direction du Machu Picchu. À cause de manifestations sur les voies le trafic était perturbé et nous nous sommes retrouvés à plusieurs trains à la queue leu leu sur les rails. Malheureusement notre train n’a pas su freiner à temps quand celui qui le précédait s’est arrêté et l’a donc embouti. Ce fut un gros choc mais heureusement pas de blessé trop grave. Mon mari gardera tout de même une cicatrice sur l’arcade sourcilière souvenir du Pérou qui restera gravé. En résumé notre voyage fut assez surprenant dans plein de domaines différents mais nous en gardons un merveilleux souvenir. En ce qui concerne la location de voiture sachez qu’il y a des transports en commun qui sont très bien fait et qui sillonnent tout le pays. D’après les personnes que nous avons rencontré et qui voyageaient de cette façon ils étaient très satisfais. En conclusion ce pays était tout simplement magique. Les gens sont d’une gentillesse incroyable, les paysages sont époustouflants, la nourriture excellente bref n’hésitez surtout pas à vous y rendre. N’hésitez pas non plus à faire appel à ToutPerou pour vous aider dans votre itinéraire, vos démarches ou vos réservations, ils ont été pour nous d’une grande aide surtout que nous ne parlons pas espagnol. Le téléphone qu’ils ont la gentillesse de nous prêter est vraiment un atout supplémentaire. Si vous avez besoin de plus d’informations, je me tiens à votre disposition. Sophie et Jean-Marc
Dilemme: Alaska ou Norvège?
by Bouclet · 2018-08-14 · 13 replies
Bonjour à tous,

J.aimerais avoir votre avis pour notre voyage en juillet 2019 : Norvège ou Alaska ? Nous prévoyons une voyage de Max 18 jours,

Un grand merci à vous

Sophie
Scandinavian Road Trip, July 2018
by Dj93 · 2018-08-03 · 24 replies
EDITOR’S NOTE: As with every travel journal I publish, I won’t force anyone to agree with my comments—they’re my own, I share my feelings, and that’s it. Your comments are, of course, welcome, but I’ll refrain from responding to any hint of controversy, as has happened in the past.



For the summer holidays of 2018, we decided to take a break from long-haul, transcontinental trips. They’re expensive and exhausting, and this year, we also had to consider our young student’s limited vacation days. So, it was a short 14-day circuit in Scandinavia. Very quickly, I had to abandon the unrealistic idea of driving door-to-door with our personal car (unlike last year—see my "Balkan Stroll" story). Too many kilometers and stops. Still, crossing Poland, Lithuania, Estonia, and Latvia before taking a ferry from Tallinn to Helsinki and Finland was tempting—what a shame.



As usual, I planned ahead and started booking in early February for a mid-July departure, typically the best time weather-wise for this destination. Browsing tour operator catalogs didn’t offer much insight—just the usual circuits. Most aim for the North Cape, but we didn’t have time for that. First, via Expedia, we booked our flight tickets: Paris to Stockholm, Helsinki to Paris for the return (880 euros for three), plus a domestic flight from Oulu to Helsinki in Finland (220 euros). The unanimous advice was that there’s not much to see between the two cities, so this saved us a night’s accommodation and a day of car rental. However, the "drop-off" fees (not returning the car to the country of origin) were unavoidable. Out of 1,100 euros for 12 days of rental, this fee was significant—I say this from memory because I never received a detailed document or even the contract itself after picking up the car, despite my complaints. That said, Holiday Autos offered the best rates at the time with Hertz. Plus, I think we were unknowingly upgraded to a Volvo XC 40 T5 automatic, packed with electronics and an incredibly efficient GPS (so I lugged around my updated TomTom for nothing). I wasn’t used to it, and I’ll come back to that. For 50 euros, I also booked one of the many mandatory ferry crossings in Norway—unless you want to drive kilometers around the countless fjords. Specifically, the Bognes-Lødingen route to reach the Lofoten Islands, a must-see in Norway (though not necessarily the best choice I made—I’ll come back to that). Then, gradually via Booking.com, I reserved hotel accommodations, which wasn’t easy at reasonable prices. For three people, it’s nearly impossible to find a room with three real beds—often a sofa bed or even two separate rooms!!!! Norway isn’t a budget-friendly destination for us, yet French tourists are everywhere—groups or families traveling independently. Okay, you’re probably wondering when I’ll get started—I’m getting there... First up, Stockholm, a two-hour flight from Paris. A first for us: we’d gotten used to online check-in within 30 hours of the flight and sometimes printing our boarding passes. But, as progress never stops, at Roissy, we now also print our baggage tags at a kiosk, then place them on the conveyor belt ourselves, scan the barcode with the handheld scanner, and watch the luggage disappear—hoping it doesn’t get misrouted. With all this reduced staff, I hope ticket prices will drop. What? Huh? I’m naive... Okay, fine! Plus, during the flight, don’t expect any snacks—everything’s paid for now, except for water and coffee. I didn’t think I was on a low-cost flight!!! Picking up the car at Arlanda Airport went smoothly, except the contract signed on a tablet (progress, right?) was never emailed to me as promised—too bad... The Volvo SUV packed with electronics: as usual, aside from adjusting the mirrors and seat, I didn’t bother learning all the features and accessories for better handling. So, from the start, I felt jerky movements in the steering, independent of my control. The white-line detection was activated and corrected my direction whenever I got too close... And that’s not all—there’s also driving assistance. Besides the speed limiter, the car accelerates or brakes on its own based on the distance from the vehicle ahead. You still have to keep your hands on the wheel, though—too bad, we could’ve played cards and let it drive itself. When you slow down, if you signal to overtake and turn the wheel, it accelerates to pass. Soon, we won’t even need a driver’s license... Not to mention the little light in the side mirror to signal vehicles in the "blind spot"—very useful. But given the excessively strict speed limits in these parts, it’s still handy. I’ll unfortunately come back to this later!!!!!! In the end, we covered 4,700 km in 8 days of actual travel—no small feat!!!!!! Stockholm: still loyal to the hop-on-hop-off sightseeing buses (or the reverse), I booked our tickets online with a discount. It remains (for us) one of the best ways to visit and get around big cities. The tourist attractions aren’t that numerous. Forty kilometers from the airport, we reached our hotel, Clarion Amaranten. At reception, we were told our reservation was for four days, not two. I insisted, and they told me to call Booking.com to fix it—they couldn’t do anything themselves. Luckily, a nice blonde understood the situation and asked where we were from to lighten the mood. For me, it worked... After a few minutes of back-and-forth, we realized a namesake had booked at the same time. I think the intern got mixed up—oh well. We finally dropped off our bags and headed out under the sun for the included boat tour. It’s beautiful and relaxing under 26°C. We glided past massive cruise ships, very common in these Nordic countries, especially for fjord tours.



We passed Djurgården, one of the city’s 14 islands, home to the Tivoli amusement park and several museums, including the ABBA Museum and the Vasa Museum. I’m not talking about the crispy sandwiches sold since 1919 but the infamous warship that sank in the harbor on its maiden voyage in 1628 after sailing just a few hundred meters. Its intact hull was salvaged in 1961, and since then, it’s one of Sweden’s most visited museums. The country is a quarter smaller than France and has 10 million inhabitants, mostly in the three big cities (Stockholm, Gothenburg, Malmö). The rest is empty, filled with lakes and forests. The currency is the krona, with 1 euro worth about 10 SEK. Dinner in the Old Town consisted of a so-called Viking burger (more like a kebab) and meatballs—the famous Swedish meatballs with potatoes, just like at IKEA... I have to say, here, it seems the Vikings have long been just blond heads—I get it... It still cost us 550 SEK. A beer alone costs at least 9 euros!!!!

DAY 2. Sunny skies. After a hearty buffet breakfast with salmon, herring in all forms, eggs, cold cuts, bread, and pastries (don’t worry, the classics are there), we started the day by visiting the City Hall tower, famous for hosting the Nobel Prizes (except the Peace Prize, awarded in Oslo). At 106 meters tall, with 365 steps and 9 clocks, it weighs twice as much as the Eiffel Tower. Access is at fixed times in small groups for safety. You can climb up to 73 meters for a 360° view of the city. Next, we visited the Royal Palace, still the official residence of the King of Sweden, and its Treasury (entry: 160 SEK). We skipped the 12:15 PM changing of the guard—three-quarters of an hour before, dozens of onlookers were already crowding the front rows in the sun.



So, we took our favorite bus to rest a bit and tour the city. We also took the subway to see several "decorated" stations—love it or hate it, but it’s original. In the late afternoon, we returned to the Old Town and its Gamla Stan to find some souvenirs, even if it feels more like Bollywood than Viking country, complete with music in the shops—a nice sign of integration... One of the first things that surprised us was the very light car traffic—no traffic jams in this capital. But there are tons of electric and regular bikes, skateboards, and scooters. Also, lots of roadwork and housing construction—apparently a big need. For dinner (our only meal of the day), we treated ourselves to something local at Borgmästaren (Stora Nygatan 35). DECIDEDLY, I’M TELLING YOU EVERYTHING...

DAYS 3 & 4. Contrary to what I was told upon arrival, the hotel parking (700 SEK for 2 nights) didn’t open at 7:00 AM but at 9:00 AM on Saturday. After having to call myself (the French-speaking African receptionist couldn’t do it for me, especially after I told him I thought Croatia would win against France in the World Cup final), the kind parking attendant (partnered with the hotel—there’s the catch) arrived early and let us leave at 8:30 AM to start our east-to-west route to Norway and Oslo, 530 km away, finally beginning our summer adventure. At the border, absolutely no checks, and on the road, aside from lakes and forests, not much to see. However, tolls are very common—don’t overlook this in your budget. In Sweden, everything’s covered by the rental company, but not in other countries. In Norway, there are many automatic toll sections—cameras film your license plate and send you the bill later. So, you must register online at www.epcplc.com/rental, with or without your credit card details, and wait for the final bill. As of now, I haven’t received it, but after noting almost all of them, it should easily reach 200 euros. Roads, tunnels, and bridges are often toll-based to fund maintenance or new constructions. We reached the Norwegian capital at 3:00 PM and checked into our room. Small hiccup: the hotel parking, not reservable, was full on Saturday. Parking meters only take coins for a max of 2 hours. Luckily, tomorrow’s Sunday—free parking from 8:00 PM until Monday morning. After circling the neighborhood, I finally found a spot for my little car—even if it’s not mine, I still care about it...



The Thon Slottsparken Hotel is slightly off-center, but a little walking won’t hurt. The nearby Hertz agency was closed—too bad, I would’ve liked to complain about still not receiving my rental contract by email... With the nice weather, we started with a walking tour of the main sights: the palace, Karl Johans gate (the main street), and some souvenir shopping to fill the display cases back home—if there’s space. We also visited the deserted Akershus Fortress, where two poor young soldiers stood guard in the scorching sun. Below it, the World Cup final fan zone was being set up. Dinner was at Rorbua for 90 euros—ouch. Hard to find, tucked away from the harbor pier. We skipped the paid ascent of the city’s only "tower" with a panoramic view—tickets had to be paid by credit card, and given the fees my bank charges, I’d had enough. Note that card payments are widely accepted here, even for small amounts. When I tried to get change in cash for a 50-euro equivalent bill, some café owners were embarrassed.

DAY 4. After discussion, we planned the day: first up, one of Oslo’s must-sees, the Vigeland Sculpture Park, featuring bronze, granite, and cast-iron works by Gustav Vigeland (1869–1943). Given the distance, we took the tram—some cars still had their old-school charm!!!! Despite the early hour, hordes of Asian tourists were already there, making photo-taking a nightmare—same everywhere they go. The park is a matter of taste... The 17-meter monolith with 121 intertwined bodies is remarkable, and rightly so. Lazy, we took the tram again to save time—same name, tight schedule. I stopped by the Hertz agency, where the overwhelmed employee promised to try to help. Given his enthusiasm, I doubted it. From the start, I’ve really felt the welcome here, at least for French visitors, isn’t great. Remember my previous reports—it’s becoming a habit. Tourist brochures aren’t available in French here either—strange... Anyway, we took a relaxing fjord cruise. Besides the quirky opera house, the beautiful summer homes on the islands were really tempting. Next, with another paid boat, we headed to the Bygdøy peninsula and its museums. We skipped the Viking Ship Museum in favor of the Norwegian Folk Museum. It features different buildings from across the country, by era and region. Unfortunately, few actors in period costumes—common in this type of tourist attraction. Its real highlight is the stave church, very beautiful. On this late Sunday afternoon, bars and restaurants competed to become World Cup 2018 fan zones—crowds everywhere. So, we decided to head back to rest and catch a glimpse of the African French team against Croatia. It’ll go down in history: a 4-2 victory, with a beautiful goal by Lloris... Go "Les Bleus"—I get it...

DAY 5. Oslo to Bergen: 450 km, but with detours, it was nearly 550. The real journey begins. Departure at 7:00 AM after sleeping in and a mediocre breakfast. Arrival at 5:00 PM—yes, driving’s slow... More tolls, but under 26°C, the real beauty starts around Geilo. First real fjord—it’s stunning. Then those houses with vegetated roofs blending perfectly into the landscape, sometimes nearly invisible... (Not bad, right? And it’s all me!!!)



We also discovered tunnels with "indoor roundabouts" and underground roads crossing—never seen that before!! We followed the shores of Lake Tyrifjord and the Hallingdal valleys. After Geilo, views of the Hardangerjøkulen glacier (achoo!) and the Vøringfossen waterfall (Norway’s highest at 163 meters) and Steinsdalsfossen in the Hardangerfjord (the country’s second-longest). Bergen, Norway’s second city, is built between seven mountains. Aside from the colorful old docks along the wharf, there’s not much to see. At the market, stalls of fresh fish, jars of various fish eggs (all called "caviar" here), and cold cuts made from reindeer, moose, and whale.



For 10 euros per person, we queued for the steep funicular for a great view of the city. Dinner was at "Fish Me," very busy. The salmon looked appetizing, and my first whale steak for 27 euros was... interesting. Our hotel, Augustin, is near the center. They charged me 150 NOK to park in the nearby public lot...

DAY 6. Bøverdalen, our evening stop, was less than 300 km away, but along the way, we had our first two scenic routes and first ferry crossing. When I got back in the car, I noticed the seagulls—rightful tenants of the harbor—had turned it into a Picasso painting overnight... First stop in Voss to peek inside its Vangskyrkja church (for a fee). The mural icons all have a marked squint, making the angels on the ceiling smile—quite the original touch. In 1277, it shocked people.



Gudvangen at the end of the Nærøyfjord offers beautiful views and a waterfall. An 11 km tunnel took us to Aurland and the Sognefjord, the king of fjords at 180 km long. Then we took Route 243 to Lærdal instead of a second long tunnel. A 47 km very narrow road with no passing except in designated spots. Buses, RVs, and trailers were in the mix—between backing up and moving forward, how do you expect me to... pass? At some spots, I had to "burn some oil" (non-edible). The beautiful viewpoints along Jotunheimen Park and its high peaks were hard-earned.



By midday, the 26°C of previous days gave way to 11°C with downpours and gusts. To reach Kaupanger, its stave church, and Route 55 (108 km), we took the Fodnes-Mannheller ferry for 119 kr (about 13 euros) for a 20-minute crossing. For these short trips, rotations are frequent, and wait times are short. The Sognefjellet route took us along lakes and snow-capped peaks—too bad the weather wasn’t cooperating. In Bøverdalen, in the middle of nowhere, we reached the Elveseter Hotel, the only one in the area, and it was packed. Luckily, it’s big. Recent reviews had us a bit worried, but personally, all the well-maintained wooden buildings gave the place charm. Our two small, simple rooms had character, and the common areas’ decor was interesting—a pile of antiques... Unless you dine on-site (reservations required for one of two sittings), the only option is to drive 20 km to Lom to see its beautiful stave church—but we didn’t go in (7 euros per person, and that’s enough). Dinner was three pizzas for 70 euros—yes, it’s expensive here.



Note that in most establishments, bars, or restaurants, you have to order and pay at the counter yourself. A *stavkirke* or *stavkyrkje* (in Norwegian Bokmål and Nynorsk) is a medieval wooden church typical of Norway, though excavations suggest similar churches may have existed elsewhere in Northern Europe. About 1,300 medieval churches were recorded, with 28 preserved in Norway. In French, they’re called "églises en bois debout" (standing wood churches) because masts or posts support the roof and nave elevation, as well as the walls. The stave church is one of the most elaborate and technically advanced types of wooden construction in Northwestern Europe during the Middle Ages. This technique is represented by the Urnes Stave Church (a UNESCO World Heritage Site), Borgund (the best-preserved in its medieval form), and 25 others—from the largest, Heddal, to the smallest, Undredal, in the stunning Sognefjord, plus a few others in Northwestern Europe.

DAY 7. Heading to Trondheim—supposedly 320 km, but with detours, it was nearly 550. Unpredictable weather until about 1:00 PM, but it’s better because it’s the day of the "triples": 3 scenic routes, 3 ferries, and 3 "underwater" tunnels. No rush—here, there’s no need to "hurry to arrive before night" because as you head north, the sun lingers and sets less and less, eventually not setting at all. First, in Grotli, we took the 27 km of Route 258, *Gamle Strynefjellsvegen* (achoo), also very narrow and unpaved in the first section. Luckily, campers and RVs aren’t early risers—otherwise, I’d have had to make not just oil but olives this time. We only passed four other users. However, despite the early hour, local road workers were already on the job, and we had to ask the excavators to move several times to let us pass. At Langvatnet, we joined Route 63, called the Eagle Road here—mediocre, except for Geiranger at the end of the narrowest fjord in the country. A cruise ship had just unloaded its passengers, who rushed into the few shops. After the Eidsdal-Linge ferry (10 minutes) and Gudbrandsjuvet with its waterfalls, we tackled the famous Trollstigen (Troll’s Path), winding and very touristy. Coming from the south, we descended it. Mandatory photo stop at the tourist center and its impressive walkway. The descent into the valley was tough—the bus driver ahead of us must’ve been disabled, blind, and quadriplegic, taking two tries at every hairpin turn, causing a traffic jam behind and for those "going up" waiting at passing spots!!!



On Route 64, we took the Åfarnes-Solnes ferry instead of the initially planned 660 because my young passenger insisted on part of the "Atlantic Road." From what we’d read on blogs, only the last 11 km are spectacular, with arched bridges connecting islets. So, in Molde, we headed to Eide, then Vevang—beautiful but nothing more. The rain spoiled the scenery. Quick photo stop in Kristiansund, then a long underwater tunnel and the Kanestraum-Halsa ferry (7 km, 20 minutes) to reach the E39 toward Trondheim.



We all agreed that all these wooden houses and churches reminded us of the U.S. in their architecture—especially since, like there, a flagpole with the national flag often stands in front of homes. Trondheim, Norway’s third city, doesn’t have much to see. A university town in the country’s center, aside from its Nidaros Cathedral (closed when we arrived late), its wooden bridge, and colorful old docks on pilings—nothing else. Even finding food was complicated. As for accommodation, Booking.com had forgotten to mention that the Nidaros Pilgrimsgard is a "pilgrim hostel" on the Camino de Santiago. Monastic atmosphere and spartan rooms for reflection—same for the frugal breakfast in silence... Anyway... Luckily, the night before, in a kitschy place run by hip youngsters, I’d stocked up on a hearty assortment of marinated herring with aquavit that burned the rest of my esophagus. (BAKLANDET SKYDSSTATION) I’m really doing all the work for you...

DAY 8. Heading to Mo i Rana—633 km actually covered instead of the planned 480 through Nord-Trøndelag!!! After Steinkjer and its fjord, we decided to take Route 763, parallel to the E6, for less traffic and to see pretty mountain villages. We also stopped in Bola to see a petroglyph (Stone Age rock carving) of a reindeer. After Medja, we skipped Kjerringfoss and Europe’s largest salmon ladder (paid access). Instead, via the Holm-Vennesund ferry, we took a bit of the scenic Route 17 before reaching Mosjøen and Mo i Rana (too many ferries if you do the whole route). Along the way, we saw reindeer and moose relaxing on the road several times. Mo i Rana is small. The Ole Tobias Hotel was packed, and parking was complicated. For dinner, we crossed the street to "No. 3," the only option. Two spicy bacalao and a whale steak cost us 90 euros... At this rate, I had to find an ATM to finish the Norwegian stay properly. The 2,000 euros exchanged before leaving (at 9.28) were already partially gone. Cigarettes cost 13 euros a pack here—twice as much as in Sweden—while unleaded gas is 1.85 euros per liter.

DAY 9. Heading to the main event of the trip: the Lofoten Islands. First programming mistake: not studying the subject well, I preferred a shorter ferry crossing from further north on the mainland. But that also meant arriving further north on the islands.



I booked for 50 euros (vehicle, driver, and two passengers included on the official Torghatten Nord site) for Bognes-Lødingen—a one-hour crossing. I should’ve left from Bodø to Leknes or better yet Moskenes and the town of Å for three hours—it would’ve saved time by avoiding the drive north and crossing to the south before heading back up the islands. Luckily, we still managed two different routes. Fortunately, the great weather returned, and I have to say, IT’S REALLY, REALLY, REALLY... BEAUTIFUL... Memory cards are melting—not just from the heat.



Two things worked in our favor, if I may say so, and countered my little blunder: first, I’d booked the 2:30 PM ferry, but arriving at the departure at noon, we easily took the earlier one—two hours saved. With the longer crossings, rotations with only two boats are much less frequent (8 to 12 per day depending on the season, vs. 6 to 8 for the southern route). Second, after Mo i Rana, we crossed the Arctic Circle, and today, the sun only "sets" from 12:20 AM to 1:50 AM. What luck! With a 7:40 AM departure (after sleeping in), I could drive until 11:00 PM easy!!!!!! And cover only 740 km!!!!!! Here, winters don’t drop below zero, but from early November to late January, it’s night almost all the time, with a supposed daylight clarity from 10:00 AM to 2:00 PM like a rainy day back home. But apparently, the northern lights and reflections on the snow also provide light!! I’d love to see that, but I’ll have to come back... We crisscrossed everything humanly possible, sometimes stopping abruptly in the middle of the road for photos—much to the locals’ dismay, but they’re used to the madness of temporary invaders enchanted by the place... These steep mountains "falling" into the water with all those colorful "rorbu" villages are magnificent. Rorbu are traditional fishermen’s cabins on stilts by the water, which over time have become the must-stay accommodation here—many have never housed any fishermen!!! The villages follow one after another, each more beautiful than the last. In Nusfjord, in season, pedestrians are even charged an access fee between 10:00 AM and 6:00 PM. At 7:00 PM, the booth was closed—lucky us, no crowd. The ochre wooden facades are beautiful, but don’t get too close—the seagulls nest there and see any approach as aggression. The result? Bomb-like droppings that can leave unpleasant memories. Go peek inside the grocery store—it’s kept its old-world charm. With the season, the many cod drying racks are empty. The hour turned, and our southward journey stopped in Reine—too bad for Å, not far, but fatigue got the better of me. We had to "go back up" to Kabelvåg for our rorbu at Nyvågar. We’d stocked up on groceries to eat quietly in this cozy little place (very small single beds upstairs).

DAY 10. We headed back north on the islands to reach Tromsø (grandiosely nicknamed the "Paris of the North"), with a late 7:50 AM departure despite 450 km to cover—things are getting lax at the end of the trip!!! However, this stop didn’t reveal much of interest—it’s the lake region, but meh. Tour operators include it as the last stop toward the far north. Aside from the Målselvfossen waterfall and its (paid) salmon ladder, nothing to report. We arrived at 3:00 PM, and the second room in our Quality Saga Hotel wasn’t ready yet. Plus, the parking we’d requested wasn’t accessible—the eight spots were taken. Even in this small town, free and easy parking is rare. Two souvenir shops and a main street (Storgata)—that’s it. Not to mention a nice storm that cooled things down. The only curiosity is the church, but it’s closed and under renovation—the exterior scaffolding ruins the only photo opportunity here. Otherwise, the Arctic Cathedral is visible from afar—that’s enough for us. The sun only sets for 20 minutes, from 12:40 AM to 1:00 AM!!!!! Last note before leaving this country: every morning at the breakfast buffet with all those eggs, I asked for a Norwegian omelet. Believe it or not, they don’t know the recipe for a Norwegian omelet!!!! 😏😛😉

DAY 11. Heading to Finland (with an extra hour time difference) and Rovaniemi, self-proclaimed official Santa Claus Village—it’s not nice to play on kids’ heartstrings for money!!!! On the 400 km of road (that or avoiding the Lofoten), nothing to see except two sad "Sami" shops. But there’s also AND ESPECIALLY: The run-in with a police radar mounted on the dashboard to welcome me to this country: alone, on a straight, flat road in the middle of the forest, I had this privilege—especially at a spot limited to 80 km/h instead of 100 as I thought. Of course, most well-meaning readers will think: serves him right... Only here’s the thing: in Finland, for years, speeding fines depend on the "Päiväsakko," meaning based on your income and number of children, a subtle calculation of average daily money is made and multiplied proportionally to the estimated severity of the offense... Ignorant of this, I naively but honestly answered the questions. The result? The fine was enormous—I won’t say the amount out of shame, but especially out of hatred for this country that ruined my vacation. Others like me, potential murderers, have been fined up to 170,000 euros (I wrote ONE HUNDRED SEVENTY THOUSAND EUROS) for a 40 km/h speeding offense!!!! I hope the clowns running France quickly adopt this particularly SOCIAL measure. Let the lazy and parasites of the country freely enjoy the road in their BMWs and MERCs!!! Let me tell you, I’ll spend my savings elsewhere in the future. So, a tip: be as dishonest as these conscientious police—say you’re unemployed with five kids, and maybe they’ll give you money!!!!! I’m really disgusted. No wonder in this nothing-to-see town, drivers sheepishly drive in a "little train" at 40 behind an RV without anyone daring to overtake. I think sometimes human stupidity should have limits, and the word freedom should regain its meaning!!! To those who understand, cheers. And as written at the start: trolls, abstain. I stand by what I said and sign it. After this brutal introduction to Finnish discriminatory laws, you can imagine Rovaniemi and its two-bit Santa Claus—I couldn’t care less. Even under the storm, at 6:00 PM on Sunday, even in summer, the scammer shops and profiteers of the Santa Claus Village (conveniently located on the Arctic Circle...) were already closed. Good riddance!!! The Arctic City Hotel is fine. I struggled to swallow my Tex-Mex at Pancho Villa (local chain).

DAY 12. Toward Oulu via Tornio, 200 km, and again, nothing to see in this land of lakes and forests. Detour and only photo stop in Tervola for a wooden church—my vacation is officially ruined... The Cumulus City Hotel is fine in this pleasant but empty and dull city, though it’s a university and tech hub. To cheer myself up, we splurged on a supposedly Viking meal at Harald—don’t know if the recipes are authentic, but my "Viking" knowledge stops at Vik, the animated boobs... Anyway, it’s good, unusual, and hearty.

DAY 13. After struggling to fill the tank (no station open with cash payment, only cards), we returned the chariot at the airport. The offices weren’t open yet at this early hour (8:35 AM flight), so I left the key in a mailbox without any inspection—I didn’t like that at all. I thought we’d get a propeller plane, but it was a well-filled Airbus. One-hour flight to Helsinki, the capital. Impossible to get clear information on buses to the city center, 40 km away. So, for 37 euros, we took a taxi with a trunk big enough for our three suitcases and three "cabin" bags. I’m not counting the cost anymore. At 10:00 AM, we could finally check into our large triple room at the Cumulus City Hotel on Hakaniemi Square—again, despite the size, with a fold-out armchair bed. Off to visit our last city, with the obvious purchase—you guessed it—a 24-hour bus ticket with a 1.5-hour mini-cruise for 43 euros per person...



The boat tour showed that the standard of living seems high here too—summer homes (or not) on the islands are very beautiful. A small canal was even dug to save these lucky owners time on maritime transport. Apartments sell for a fortune. Back at Market Square, we grabbed a snack at the market—a reindeer kebab with dried reindeer, cheese, and a mini cracker—simple but delicious. No time to waste—ours is limited. Even if there’s not much to see tourist-wise. Four churches compete: the very busy and beautiful Helsinki Cathedral (better outside than in), its direct rival the Orthodox Uspenski Cathedral (same), the Rock Church (Temppeliaukio) and the Wooden Church (Kampin)—both as beautiful inside as out!!! Here too, very little car traffic, but tons of people—tourists or not—and joggers. In the evening, a bit tired, we headed to the off-center hotel to try the Scandinavian Hesburger chain. For connoisseurs and 29 euros, decent fries and burgers resembling Burger King’s—while the other American giant is left behind. Personal taste, I guess. The next day, we took the bus tour again, passing the Parliament and the controversial Sibelius Monument—a 24-ton pile of clanging iron pipes. Then, to kill time, we headed to Linnanmäki amusement park, on a hill overlooking the city. Rides are packed together, and a new one appears every year. Mostly family-oriented, but two or three thrill rides were packed. Despite my advancing age, I gave it a try—obviously regretted it afterward... Europe’s oldest wooden roller coaster (1950) shows the genius of its creators, with a brakeman at the back—worth the detour and passes the time. We ate (if you can call it that) on-site for 19 euros. Back "in town," classic shopping centers are numerous, but souvenir shops can be counted on one hand. No matter—we had to pack because tomorrow’s the return. We ate burgers again near the hotel and Hes... but served at the table for 67 euros. The next morning, to kill time before the 4:00 PM flight, we went to the port and its tourist market, where I splurged 15 euros on a cap to add to (or clutter) my already well-stocked collection. We finally learned that bus 615 goes to the airport, with a stop in front of our hotel where the luggage was left in storage after checking out. Still, count 40 minutes with this indirect route. Via an Air France flight operated by Finnair, after 3 hours, we returned to Roissy CDG—our vacation is truly over!!!!!!

CONCLUSION (if I may) Among the three capitals we visited, our unanimous ranking is: Oslo, Helsinki, and Stockholm—period. Despite a few imperfections in my itinerary, I’d say the Lofoten Islands are really worth it—two days on-site is a minimum. Finland, and not just because of the radars, is way below—nothing to see tourist-wise. I didn’t say nothing to do for those with time—nuance... Norwegian fjords, even if once you’ve seen one, you’ve seen them all, are really beautiful, though this destination is quite expensive for us. Norway, thanks to its oil and gas, is very wealthy, near full employment, with an annual GDP per capita of 70,000 euros!!! A pack of cigarettes at 13 euros and beer at 10 euros doesn’t make this a dream destination for an addict like me. We were very lucky with the weather—only two and a half days of rain over 14, unlike many bloggers whose stories I read before leaving. The welcome wasn’t always what we expected. Despite the massive French presence, we’re not always as welcome as Asian conquerors, to whom the West, racing to its doom, continues to roll out the red carpet—literally! I don’t regret our choice—it’s worth seeing once, but only once. At least now we know what we’re talking about!!!!! Finally, as always, here’s the link to my public slideshow on YouTube. For the private one, some spicy scenes (especially with Santa and a troll) could cause me more problems—I’ve had enough!!! www.youtube.com/...zbIgZC6Pk&t=165s See you soon, maybe for new adventures and getaways. DJ93.
Bref retour sur trois semaines en Alaska (du 20 mai au 10 juin 2018)
by Lorenzoboy · 2018-06-20 · 37 replies
Bonjour! Voici quelques infos et impressions en vrac sur mon récent séjour en Alaska. Je ferai un carnet plus détaillé ultérieurement.

Anchorage :

Nous y avons fait des courses et dormi une nuit à l’arrivée, sans visiter. Peut-être me trompe-je, mais la ville ne semble pas présenter un grand intérêt…

Kenai Peninsula :

La Seward Highway, à la sortie d’Anchorage, est spectaculaire

1 nuit à Hope : Charmant village quasi-fantôme. Superbe rando jusqu’à Hope Point;

2 nuits à Homer : la Sterling Higyhway est beaucoup moins spectaculaire que la Seward. Le Homer Spit fait un peu trappe à touristes, mais la vue sur la Kachemak Bay est imprenable. Belle rando dans le Kachemak State Park (il faut prendre un bateau-taxi), jusqu’au glacier Grewinck;

3 nuits à Seward : Exit Glacier, bof bof tellement il a dramatiquement reculé dans la dernière décennie. Pour la rando du Harding Icefield, nous avons été bloqués par la neige (et un risque d’avalanche!) à mi-parcours environ. Mais ça valait tout de même la peine! Finalement, excursion en bateau dans le Kenai Fjords National Park avec Northern Latitudes Adventure, qui accueille max 6 passagers. Ça coûte son pesant d’or, mais l’expérience vaut chaque dollar investi.

Glenn Highway / Valdez :

Les paysages tout au long de la Glenn Highway sont magnifiques et la traversée du Thomson Pass, sur la Richardson Highway est à couper le souffle.

Temps gris à Valdez, donc nous n’avons pas vraiment pu apprécier le panorama. Excursion en bateau avec Stan Stephen Cruises vers le glacier Columbia, que nous n’atteindrons pas en raison des glaces. C’était un peu l’usine avec 175 passagers à bord, mais bien quand même… Nous voulions prendre le Lulu Belle, mais il ne sortait pas en raison de l’insuffisance de clients ce jour-là…

Valdez / Beaver Creek (via le Tok Cutoff) :

Essentiellement une journée de route. Quelques beaux points de vue sur les montagnes Wrangell sur le Tok Cutoff.

Beaver Creek / Haines :

Incursion au Yukon pour rejoindre Haines. La route est spectaculaire par beau temps et la faune nombreuse (ours noirs et grizzly sur la route notamment).

Haines :

Un coup de cœur du voyage. Bonne ambiance dans cette petite ville qui échappe pour l’instant au tourisme de masse. Belles randos (Mount Riley, Mount Ripinski), grizzlis nombreux.

Haines Junction :

Retour au Yukon et rando dans le parc national Kluane (sentier King’s Throne). Belle ambiance d’amoureux de plein air à Haines Junction.

Tok :

Retour vers l’Alaska (Tok) sous la grisaille, la pluie et la neige (oui oui, une tempête de neige!). Détour jusqu’à Chicken par la Taylor Highway, afin de tuer quelques heures que nous ne désirons pas passer à Tok. Amusant si vous avez le temps, mais autrement dispensable.

Denali (Healy) :

Parc national Denali : à ne manquer sous aucun prétexte. Si le système de navette peut apparaître rébarbatif, il constitue une condition essentielle à l’expérience que vous y vivrez. Pas de voitures pare-chocs à pare-chocs comme à Yellowstone, par exemple. Simplement la nature sauvage dans toute sa splendeur. Prévoyez large pour en profiter pleinement (et espérer voir le Denali en personne). Pour ma part j’avais trois jours complets sur place, j’en aurais facilement pris 4 ou 5 finalement. N'hésitez pas à débarquer du bus pour aller marcher quelques heures.

Palmer et Hatcher Pass :

Direction Palmer par la Parks Highway. Les points de vue sur le Denali sont apparemment nombreux, mais il demeurera obstinément caché dans les nuages…

Le Hatcher Pass est fermé jusqu’au 4 juillet en raison de la neige… Il est toutefois possible de se rendre à la Independance Mine à partir de Palmer;

Belle rando du côté du lac Eklutna, dans le Chugach Montains State Park (sentier Twin Peaks).

Voilà. Plus de détails à venir!

Bhoutan en couple avec chauffeur-guide francophone
by Grandroe · 2018-02-18 · 8 replies
Nous aimerions découvrir de pays durant le mois juillet 2018 durant 3 semaines. Nous apprécions de voyager en couple avec un chauffeur et guide francophone. Merci aux personnes qui pourraient nous conseiller pour trouver une agence locale proposant des parcours intéressants. Existe-t'il des vols depuis le Bhoutan jusqu'au Yunan.
Trajet possible en camping-car en Namibie
by Fredld974 · 2018-01-28 · 15 replies
bonjour, ont part 17 jours en namibie en aout et en camping car , quelqu un a t il un trajet sous la mains possible bien évidement à cause des routes en camping car , merci et bonne journée à vous🙂
Pérou en préparation
by Bouclet · 2017-08-23 · 26 replies
Bonsoir à tous je prépare mon voyage au Perou pour l'été prochain vous allez donc certainement me voir beaucoup par ici. 1- est il difficile de se déplacer dans Lima et Arequipa ? 2- les Islas Ballestas sont elles vraiment intéressantes ? 3- on m'a conseillé de prendre un vol Au départ de Pisco pour les lignes de Nazca (pour des raisons de sécurité) ! Qu'en pensez vous? 4- peut-on préparer son voyage sans agences de voyage quand on ne parle pas Espagnol ?

Voici mes premières questions

À bientôt Sophie
Cuba et/ou Jamaïque
by Bouclet · 2017-08-15 · 10 replies
Bonjour à tous, j'envisage de partir à Cuba en juillet 2018 j'ai 3 semaines de congés pensez vous que je puisse combiner la Jamaïque? Si vous avez des idées d'itinéraires et autres je suis preneuse. Sophie
Prendre l'avion avec son matériel photo / vidéo
by Serge1973 · 2017-07-12 · 21 replies
Bonjour,

Je vais prendre l'avion pour la première fois dans quelques jours alors je me pose des questions sur les contrôles de sécurité à l'aéroport en ce qui concerne le matériel photo/vidéo.

Le sac à dos que je compte prendre en cabine contient un caméscope semi-pro (Canon XF200) + 2 batteries + chargeur de batterie + cartes mémoires + un appareil photo compact avec ses batteries et ses chargeurs de batteries + un petit bloc multiprises pour pouvoir recharger tout en même temps + un ipad ou un pc portable...

Au contrôle sécurité, est-ce que je dois vider mon sac avant qu'il passe au scanner ? Et si oui, je dois vider tout, même les petits objets comme les batteries et les cartes mémoires, ou seulement les plus grosses pièces ?

Merci de l'éclairer sur ce point.
Itinéraire de 13 jours dans le Centre Rouge et le Nord australien
by Bouclet · 2017-01-06 · 27 replies
Bonjour à tous. Pour notre voyage en Australie cet été nous avons louer pour 13 jours un camping car à Alice springs que nous restituerons à Darwin. Vu les km, auriez vous des idées d'itinéraire pour rentabiliser au mieux ces 13 jours. Un grand merci à tous et bonne année
Airbnb sur Sydney, Alice Springs et Darwin?
by Bouclet · 2016-12-21 · 1 reply
Bonjour à tous , mon mari et moi partons en Australie en juillet prochain et nous voulions tester les Rbnb. En connaîtriez vous de sympa sur Sydney, Alice spring et Darwin ? Merci à vous. Sophie
S'occuper lors d'un vol longue durée
by Bouclet · 2016-10-27 · 48 replies
Bonjour à tous, quelqu'un aurait-il des idées pour s'occuper dans un avion pendant 12h !!
Perth ou Sydney
by Bouclet · 2016-09-06 · 2 replies
Nous envisageons un voyage en australie l'été prochain et nous allons louer un camping car à partir d'Alice springs pour faire le centre rouge et partir vers Darwin. Par contre je ne sais pas s'il est préférable de partir de Perth ou Sydney, quelle ville est la plus interessante à visiter à cette époque de l'année ? Merci pour vos conseils, Sophie
Australie: camping-car avec ou sans douche/wc
by Bouclet · 2016-09-01 · 5 replies
Nous allons voyager en camping car en juillet 2017 d'Alice springs à Darwin. Une premiere pour nous 🤪. Alors douche/wc dans Le camping car ? That is the question .... Sophie
Hôtels au Centre Rouge de l'Australie
by Bouclet · 2016-08-21 · 5 replies
Bonsoir à tous. Le camping et moî ne sommes pas vraiment amis, pourriez me dire si on peut trouver des hôtels au centre rouge de l'Australie ? Merci, Sophie
Costa Rica ou Guatemala?
by Bouclet · 2016-08-20 · 1 reply
That is the question ? Est ce que certain d'entre vous auraient visiter ces deux pays pour m'aider à faire un choix pour juillet 2017. Merci à vous. Sophie
Premier voyage en Californie
by Simonsgp · 2016-08-01 · 60 replies
Bonjour a tous,

Je souhaite obtenir vos avis concernant mon itineraire. Malheuresement, je ne peux pas partir plus longtemps. Je serais donc sur place 8 jours.

12/11: arrive a Los Angeles 6:30am - journee LA 13/11: LA 14/11: LA 15/11: Las Vegas - nuit a Las Vegas 16/11: Death Valley - nuit a Las Vegas

-- a partir d'ici j'hesite --

17/11: Grand Canyon + Bryce Canyon - nuit a Bryce Canyon est-ce que cela se fait en 1 journee ? 18/11: Monument Valley nuit sur la route dans un hotel 19/11: nuit a LA/New Port Beach ou Palm Springs ? 20/11: Depart a 16h

Merci pour vos conseils et retour d'experience !

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