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“Hey, your Marker... - My Marker? - The one you used to make hitchhiking signs.”

The marker in question is sitting proudly on the kitchen table. Marielle found it at the bottom of a moving box.

I’ve been meaning to tell the long story of my love affair with hitchhiking for years. Here we go.

To be honest, I’m not quite sure when it started. My earliest memory goes back to a fair with a bike race in my maternal grandparents’ village. I was with my cousin, my little sister, and three girl cousins. There were six of us, ages ranging from six or seven to thirteen or fourteen. Our parents stayed at the fair, and we’d had enough. So we decided to walk home. Only it was four kilometers away. So we hitchhiked. A guy driving an old car picked us all up and dropped us off at the farm. He probably found it amusing to see us thumbing a ride by the side of the road, but maybe it also worried him a bit. With everything you read in the papers...

Around fifteen or sixteen, I started hitchhiking regularly, alone or with a friend, to go to the nearby town. But it was especially when I started boarding school in Orléans that it became more regular. The first year, I’d leave Monday morning and come back Saturday noon by bus. It was an old, uncomfortable bus where we froze in winter. To make matters worse, I often got motion sickness if, as was too often the case, I ended up sitting in the back. In the spring, a high school friend suggested I hitchhike back. It meant a slight detour, but the advantage was taking only national roads.

So that’s how, from the end of tenth grade to twelfth grade, I’d thumb a ride every Saturday on the Pont de Bourgogne. Drivers were used to seeing young people hitchhiking, and it worked pretty well. Our biggest fear? Soldiers! At that time, military service was still mandatory, and on weekends, it wasn’t rare to see them competing with us. They’d keep their uniforms on to go home. That gave people confidence—with everything you read in the papers—and they’d rarely wait more than five minutes. We, with our long hair, were definitely less popular. From time to time, three big red-faced guys in a van coming back from a construction site would flip us off, yelling things like “go get a haircut, you bums!” Those were the good old days.

We still had a good laugh, though. Patrice, the friend I’d hitchhike back from school with on Saturdays, is a musician—I’d later discover he’s an excellent composer. A die-hard Beatles fan, he knows their repertoire by heart and spends his time singing at the top of his lungs while we thumb a ride. One Saturday late morning, we’d been waiting for a while at the exit of Châteauneuf-sur-Loire when a little lady came up to him and asked if he could please sing a little quieter: a baby was sleeping in the house. He put on the most sorry face: “Oh, sorry ma’am, we didn’t realize.” No sooner had the lady gone back inside than he started again. Luckily, a car stopped just then, sparing me the embarrassment of seeing the lady come back out.

Saturday was also the day when the cigarette pack was dangerously low. So before leaving, we’d go buy some “Parisiennes,” the “P4s” as we called them back then. They were slightly thinner cigarettes with a mix of tobacco scraps. Sometimes they tasted like light tobacco, sometimes like dark. Not great, but by the end of the week, our pocket money was gone. They were sold in small packs of four, hence the name P4. We’d only pay 20 centimes. On Saturdays, it was rare for the two of us to manage to scrape together 1.50 F to buy a whole pack of Gauloises...

The last twenty kilometers, I’d usually do alone, Patrice having reached his destination. From time to time, luck would smile on me: an acquaintance would just happen to pass by and stop. One January Saturday, at the exit of Gien, I ran into another guy from Argenton whom I knew a little. That day, the weather was nice, but the temperature was well below zero. It was around noon, and it was the off-peak hour. We were shivering, stamping our feet by the side of the road, when a Citroën “Tube” arrived: it was his father’s boss’s, a mason. They were both sitting in the front, but since they were obese, they had us climb onto the open back. Even though we huddled against the cab to shelter from the wind, the twenty kilometers felt very long, especially since we were only going sixty kilometers an hour. Our hands and cheeks were blue when we finally arrived.

The year I took my baccalaureate, a friend with a 2CV would take me Monday mornings with one or two others we’d pick up in nearby villages. We’d share the gas costs, but it was still cheaper than the bus. And in winter, the bus was my nightmare. You had to get up at five to catch it at six. Not enough sleep, and outside it was freezing or raining—or both. The 2CV was luxury. Plus, Philippe would pick me up at home. On the other hand, since I didn’t have class Saturday mornings—well, I did, but we only had PE the first two hours and nothing after—I’d skip class and slip out right after breakfast to thumb a ride at the Pont de Bourgogne.

Those three high school years were formative in this optional subject that was hitchhiking. Little by little, I learned the rules of the game. First, you shouldn’t walk along the road while thumbing. Cars go too fast and can’t stop easily. Accepting a ride that’s too short is also a no-go. The guy who offers to take you a little way but drops you off at some vague crossroads in the middle of nowhere? No thanks. You need to get dropped off in a town. If it’s a fairly big city, you often have to cross it from one end to the other, but it’s better. At the exit, you have to choose your spot well. Actually, you have to put yourself in the driver’s shoes: they need to see you early enough, not be going too fast, and be able to stop easily without risking an accident. So when leaving a city, it’s better not to go too far. It’s wiser to find a spot where cars go slowly and can stop easily. And preferably near a café. The café is for when you still have a few coins for a coffee and need to warm up. From time to time, you’d run into someone nice who’d make a detour to drop you off at a better spot to start again. Finally, if possible, avoid hitchhiking on Sundays. Cars are packed with whole families who, most of the time, aren’t going far. And then there’s the little worry of those people who rarely leave home: with everything you read in the papers...

During those high school years, it was only short trips, rarely exceeding a hundred kilometers. Later, I aimed bigger, and things were a bit different. In 1973-74, I crossed part of France for the first time on two or three occasions, coming back from the German border or returning to Bordeaux, where we lived briefly. Since there weren’t many highways back then, we took national roads. It was during these trips that I realized it was better to leave in the evening. As I said earlier, Sunday is to be avoided, but on weekdays, there’s another problem: if you leave in the morning, you only make short hops. First, it often takes longer to get going because drivers are people going to work nearby. Which brings us back to those who drop you off in a bad spot, far from everything. There, you have to know how to refuse. You thank the driver for stopping—oh, if only everyone could be like you—while explaining why you’d rather stay put. People don’t take offense, by the way. Those who pick up hitchhikers often hitchhiked themselves when they were in the military or before they had a car. In the late afternoon, you’d often run into salespeople or truckers, in other words, people who drive a lot. At that time, salespeople no longer had appointments and were more relaxed. They wanted to talk about something other than the merits of their products. On the radio, it was time for *Les Grosses Têtes*. You’d also quite often run into small business owners, professionals, or even hippies. The conversations were pleasant and often enriching. A little later in the evening, truckers would take over. They’d already driven a few hundred kilometers, and the depot or customs was still far away. So they’d gladly take a hitchhiker to stay awake at the wheel and chat. The radio with Max Ménier’s show *Les routiers sont sympas*, you’d eventually get tired of it. So a hitchhiker was a change. Others, who’d hit the road at midnight to be at their destination by morning, were nice and offered to let you lie down on the bunk while they drove. When you’d been hitchhiking since six in the evening, freezing in the wind between two vehicles, you weren’t unhappy to take a little nap.

Speaking of Max Ménier, he’d often make announcements for hitchhikers. One evening, I called him. It was getting late, and I still had quite a way to go. No luck: the show had ended for good the day before!

In short, it’s better not to rush, sleep in, and leave after lunch, or better yet, in the late afternoon. Obviously, I’m talking about when you have several hundred kilometers to cover. That’s when you have to play it pro.

First thing, especially at night, but it also applies in the middle of summer when the light is blinding: dress to be seen from far away. I’ll admit I have an advantage over most other hitchhikers: I’m small and don’t scare people. To balance that out, racist drivers often take me for an Arab and are less likely to pick me up, but overall, the balance tips in my favor. Back to the need to be seen: at night, I wear light-colored clothes. In headlights, you can see me from far away.

Second thing: travel light. Forget the big backpack with a frame. Drivers don’t always have room in the trunk or on the back seat, especially if it’s rained and the ground is wet. Plus, it forces them to get out of the car. If they’re nice enough to pick up a hitchhiker, you shouldn’t ask for too much either.

Third thing: bring a cardboard sign and a big marker—like the ones in the photo at the start of this post—to write the name of your destination. In the early 80s, I ran a tourist house in the Cher, but I lived in the Netherlands. In the off-season, it was only open on weekends. On Fridays, I’d leave Holland and return on Mondays. 1200 km round trip. On the way there, in Paris, I’d stand at Porte de la Chapelle. At that spot, the road is very wide, and drivers could stop easily. Obviously, on the sign, I didn’t write Eindhoven, which not everyone knows, and even less Amsterdam because of its seedy reputation. In that case, you’d expect to see a police car stop and two officers in kepis ask for your papers. So as a first destination, I’d write Compiègne. We were well out of Paris, and since it wasn’t too far, a trucker or salesperson was less reluctant to stop. Once past Compiègne, I’d take out my Lille sign. Once in Belgium, it wasn’t really necessary to use a sign anymore, since everyone was going in the same direction. Usually, the guy who picked me up at Porte de la Chapelle would say he wasn’t going far but could take me a little way. Before that, I’d still ask if there was a gas station on the highway where he could drop me off before exiting. While talking, the guy would realize he wasn’t dealing with a dangerous criminal. He’d pretend to check his watch, think for a moment, then say that actually, he was going to Belgium and could take me to the border or a little beyond. To leave Paris on the way back, I’d take the train to Melun, where it was easier to hitchhike than at Porte d’Italie.

Over all those years, I think I was pretty lucky. Or maybe philosophical enough not to imagine a car would stop after a few minutes. An hour’s wait was average. Sure, I sometimes waited three, four, or five hours. Most often at odd hours and in terrible weather. When it doesn’t work, it doesn’t work. But there’s always a moment when things pick up. Sure, when you’re soaked in freezing rain in the early morning after a sleepless night, you’re less philosophical than when I’m writing these lines comfortably at my computer, but it still holds true.

Earlier, I mentioned clothing and the importance of being well-rested before leaving. When you’ve eaten well and just gotten out of the shower, shaved, you’re in a better mood. And somehow, drivers sense it. Or at least, that’s the impression I’ve always had. It’s better to look in shape than disgusted at standing there, half-heartedly thumbing a ride. In short, when I’d start to get fed up with waiting, I’d go into the first café I saw for a coffee. Coming back out, I’d be refreshed, and most of the time, a car would stop within minutes. I’ve often said that when I stood by the side of the road thumbing a ride, I felt a bit like a gambler in front of a slot machine. It was a matter of giving luck a chance. And well, it worked out pretty well.

Then, there are countries where hitchhiking works really well and others where it’s harder. In the 70s-80s, it worked best in Germany and England. In the late afternoon, it wasn’t rare to be invited for tea. Well, that was in England. Tea meant being offered room and board. In Germany, they’d offer you coffee. Once there, they’d first show you the guest room and point out the bathroom before sitting you down in front of a big plate of cold cuts. In the evening, they’d go out in town, and the next morning, they’d usually drop you off at a good spot for hitchhiking. On the other hand, in Mediterranean and Scandinavian countries, you’d better be patient. In Spain or Italy, it’s better to take the train, which was dirt cheap back then. However, if you’re a couple traveling light, it’s already easier in most countries.

In 1982, I went on a trip around Turkey with my girlfriend. We only had two small bags, which was plenty. It was November-December, and we wore our warm, bulky clothes. Leaving Eindhoven at nine in the morning, we arrived in Graz, near the Yugoslav border, at eleven at night. 1300 km in a day! In just four or five vehicles. One to the German border, about fifty kilometers from Eindhoven, the second to Hagen in the Ruhr, the third to Salzburg, and the last to Graz at the Yugoslav border. Record broken. During the night crossing of Yugoslavia, we ran into a trucker close to retirement who lent us the truck’s bunk. So we arrived fresh and rested near Skopje the next morning. We continued to Thessaloniki in northern Greece before taking the train to Istanbul. In Turkey, we traveled a good part of the country by hitchhiking too. With truckers in old, overloaded, slow trucks that climbed hills at fifteen kilometers an hour, but also in cars where five or six people were already crammed in. And every time, we were invited for tea. Once, we were even picked up by a big shot in his Mercedes with a chauffeur. Until then, the average speed was around fifty kilometers an hour. There, we were going two hundred. On a national road, not a nice European highway.

I’ve also hitchhiked in Nepal, from Lumbini, Buddha’s birthplace, to a village on the way to Pokhara. It must have been midday. No bus until the next day. I gave it a try. A small truck overloaded with rice sacks, with two or three young people already perched on top, stopped. I rode on the roof of the cab. At fifty kilometers an hour when it was going well, with a breathtaking view. Coming back from India, I also crossed part of Iran by hitchhiking, from Tehran to the Turkish border. I did this trip with an Austrian I met at the hotel who, like me, had to watch his pennies. We gave it a shot. There was almost no traffic, but to our great surprise, the first car that passed in the area would always stop. They’d just ask for a modest contribution for gas, and it cost next to nothing.

Sometimes, you get scared too. After leaving Turkey in early December 82, we spent about two weeks in the southern Peloponnese harvesting olives. A few days before Christmas, we hitchhiked back to Holland. A girl picked us up in her little Fiat 500. We were driving on a mountain road, and that morning there was a bit of black ice. After crossing a pass, we saw the old Ford Taunus ahead of us at fifty meters start to skid. The driver let out a “heeee!” while grabbing my knees. I reflexively grabbed the wheel. Finally, the Taunus got back on track. And we didn’t swerve. But those few seconds felt very long.

In January 77, while I’d been living in Germany for a few months, I decided to spend a few days in Italy. By hitchhiking, of course. I left in the early afternoon, and by ten at night, I wasn’t far from Frankfurt. I saw a big Mercedes stop. The four or five young people crammed inside were listening to Schlager at full volume. Beer cans littered the floor. They didn’t have a precise destination, and as long as they were going south, that was fine with me. They’d finished their military service that very day and had clearly already celebrated their discharge. The driver was going 160, zigzagging dangerously from one side of the highway to the other. I should have realized he wasn’t entirely sober either. Luckily, there was almost no traffic. Finally, I managed to get dropped off at a gas station just before Frankfurt, relieved. I hope their trip didn’t end tragically.

Another time, coming back from Holland with my wife, we were picked up early in the morning near Senlis by two guys from Lille. They were going to work near Tours and could drop us off at Porte d’Italie. Apparently, they were coworkers but barely knew each other. The driver offered us a beer—at six in the morning, sure!—before opening another can for himself. He was clearly having trouble staying in the right lane. We politely declined, the passenger too. Everyone was tense. Luckily, it was rush hour on the ring road, and we were going slowly. When we got out of the car, the passenger said goodbye with the look of a guy being offered the condemned man’s rum and cigarette.

Finally, there are the annoying remarks from drivers who are either gay when you’re alone or turned on by the sight of your girlfriend when you’re a couple. In those cases, I’d get in the back so the guy wouldn’t feel too confident. And if the conversation got a little too suggestive, we’d deflect until we got dropped off.

And luckily, there are the times, not so rare after all, when you run into really nice people who invite you to eat and sleep at their place and drive you to a good spot the next morning. In Germany and England, that was common. And then there are the big strokes of luck, like during our trip to Turkey when we crossed most of Germany in one car, or that other time when some Germans drove me from the exit of Geneva all the way to the Costa Brava.

Going back to “with everything you read in the papers” and its variant “with everything you see on TV”—and now on the internet—it’s always left me perplexed. Personally, I’ve never heard of hitchhikers assaulting drivers, even if it may have happened. On the other hand, what was most common were hitchhikers being assaulted, especially girls. Anyway, even armed, it seems a bit stupid to assault the driver—wouldn’t that risk causing an accident?

Finally, since that time, I’ve occasionally wanted to hitchhike somewhere far away in France. Most often, too busy with work, it never happened, but the nostalgia hasn’t completely disappeared.

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Other Hitchhikers

And then one day, I... settled down to become a driver myself. Ten years had passed, and you saw fewer and fewer hitchhikers. Or maybe I saw fewer because I had a regular job and wasn’t traveling the same way. And then I understood a few things.

Several times, I was tempted to pick up a hitchhiker, but they didn’t meet the required conditions. They were walking along the road instead of staying at the exit of the previous town. Hard to stop without risking an accident. Or the guy looked really scruffy. Or he was sulking, if not both. Then you think of that famous “with everything you read in the papers.” Not that I was scared, but unfortunately, the few hitchhikers I did pick up later were rarely interesting.

A few years ago, we picked up a young guy at the exit of a small town in Sologne. Not an easy spot for hitchhiking. Bad luck, he was a pretentious little jerk. He was barely 20 or 25 and talked like a bitter old man. He was a waiter in a restaurant. According to him, it was lucky he was there, otherwise the boss would have closed up shop long ago. You’d think he had thirty or forty years of professional experience behind him. As we approached Blois, he started ranting about Arabs, blaming them for all evils. And he laid it on thick. That morning, we were going to a teenager’s funeral who had just committed suicide, so he really got on our nerves, Mr. Know-It-All. Out of anger, I dropped him off next to a shopping center a few kilometers from downtown. Not nice, but it felt good.

Some time ago, we were driving around the Limousin on a Sunday to try out the used Twingo we’d just bought. We picked up a guy in his forties. A German who spoke French well. He started talking about the environment. He was a green Khmer. He got worked up all by himself with his pseudo-eco rant and, after a few kilometers, was almost yelling at us. As we were about to leave the main road for a small one, I dropped him off at a crossroads in the middle of nowhere. Normally, I would have made a little detour to take him to a better spot, but this time, I didn’t feel like doing the... eco-warrior a favor.

On the other hand, I’ve still done my good deed a few times. One June morning, coming back from Orléans, I saw a man in his sixties hitchhiking. The poor guy had had a rough time. He was from Montpellier and was coming back from Caen, where he’d been promised a job. Once there, they bluntly told him the position was already taken, and he had to go back. Except he didn’t have enough money left for the train. He’d spent the night hitchhiking without success. I could only take him as far as Lamotte-Beuvron, where I dropped him off near the fire station. Apparently, there was some vague shelter there or something, but it only opened a few hours later. In the meantime, he settled on the grass in a corner to sleep a little. While he was doing that, I quickly went to the train station to check the price of a ticket to Montpellier. It was within my means. Since he was sound asleep, I slipped the train ticket and 100 francs into his pocket. I couldn’t imagine him continuing to hitchhike all the way to Montpellier. And I bet he didn’t even have a piece of cardboard and a marker!

When we go to Brazil, we usually rent a small car. One day, we were coming back from Paracuru to Fortaleza when we saw a whole family hitchhiking. Two adults and two or three small children. Here near the equator, the sun sets very quickly, and it would soon be night. There was little traffic, and trucks wouldn’t stop because there was no room in the cab. As for the rich people driving big 4x4s, they wouldn’t stoop to picking up the lower classes. The only hope for this kind of family was usually a farmer or artisan who’d let them ride in the back of his pickup. Obviously, they were a bit surprised to see us. Everyone crammed in as best they could in the back of our little car. When we dropped them off, we got a whole string of “Deus lhes abençõe”—God bless you.

Still in Brazil, we were on the road from Barreirinhas to São Luís do Maranhão. About 150 km of deserted road with an isolated mud house here and there. A young woman flagged us down. She was very pregnant and had to get to the clinic twenty or thirty kilometers away to give birth. Someone was supposed to drive her, but the first signs of labor started earlier than expected, and the driver was unavailable. Even driving fast, we weren’t feeling great: it would be just our luck if she gave birth in the car!

Today, we’re in the age of smartphones and carpooling apps. Safety. With everything you see on TV... Three or four years ago, we signed up on a platform. Our first, and only, “client” was a little jerk who didn’t say a word the whole trip. No hello, no goodbye, and certainly no thank you. The next day, we found his Ray-Bans in the car. We didn’t run after him to give them back. Ha!

Prologue

This journal recounts a trip to Rajasthan that’s already over a year old and that I’ve only now found the chance to write about. The summer of 2024 marked my return to India—my tenth trip—after six long years away since my last solo wanderings in Tamil Nadu in 2018 (the journal of which is published on this site). That absence was partly (but not only) due to the long COVID and post-COVID period, which saw a complete halt and then a major slowdown in global tourism. To top it off, Voyage Forum announced its closure in an end-of-the-world atmosphere. A sad time for our favorite social activity…

A few weeks after returning from Rajasthan, I tried to motivate myself to start writing a journal to publish on a forum claiming to be VF’s successor, which I’d eventually signed up for out of desperation. But I kept hesitating and putting the project off because, for one, I no longer have the time I used to. For another, the vibe wasn’t really taking off on that forum—it was overrun with ads and not very active, contrary to what its host’s name suggested. Despite its good intentions and commendable role as a stopgap, it also turned out to be very impractical to use, especially when you don’t have much time like me. I’ll admit I’d occasionally check back on VF to see if anything was happening. But all the discussions remained frozen in time, stuck in that fateful year, 2020. Then, rumors swirled online about shady reasons behind its closure, leaving little room for hope.

And then, one fine morning, I got a message at work from Marien informing me that VF had reopened. What a huge surprise! Even though the forum’s “end” had played out in a somewhat apocalyptic atmosphere, the memories of passionate and heated discussions, the frank debates, and the useful exchanges that made this site a traveler’s goldmine and a unique hub of conviviality all came rushing back to me like a breath of fresh air. I finally saw a sign and tried to motivate myself to find the time to publish the journal of this tenth trip to India and fifth to Rajasthan. But in the end, I got bogged down in professional and family obligations and never managed to find the time to get started. That’s now fixed, though, because I had two reasons for wanting to do it: I find that looking back on a trip to tell others about it is a highly beneficial introspective exercise. Also, I thought this journal could be useful to other travelers on a few points.

Because, “do we really need yet another journal about Rajasthan?” you might rightly ask! Especially in a time when so many journals about the “Land of Kings” have been published since VF’s return, not to mention the countless stories you can already find online about this region, one of India’s most touristy. And I’d add, why go back to Rajasthan for a fifth time, where I’ve already dragged my feet more than enough—through its forts, deserts, temples, cities, villages, bumpy roads, train stations, tasty street food stalls, cheap guesthouses, and more? Where some might see just another overhyped tourist destination full of the same old *Arabian Nights* clichés, worn to a thread, that I mentioned earlier, when there’s so much else to see in India? Well, first because it’s a magnificent country I never tire of, where I started an academic study and made so many connections. It’s also packed with places where you won’t find a single tourist (right, Marie-Jo?), even in the heart of well-trodden paths and classic itineraries. And most importantly, as I said earlier, things have changed in recent years. First, after six years without traveling far, the urge to go back to India was getting stronger. But this time, no more solo trips (often) or duo adventures (sometimes)—now it’s a team of four that has to come along! And even if you can argue with that, what better place than Rajasthan to introduce India to people who’ve never seen it? To kids you want to amaze? Plus, traveling with your new little family to your favorite country isn’t the same as going solo in often spartan conditions that only affect you. It’s a different challenge, but ultimately probably much harder. So, is it really reasonable to take two kids to India, including a two-year-old baby? That’s one of the main goals of this journal (but not the only one)—to try to answer that question.

As you can tell, it’s not so much the destination but the slightly unusual setup of this trip that, in my opinion, will make this journal interesting. Despite my experience and expertise (yes, I dare say it) in India, there were plenty of questions before we finalized the plan and said, “Alright, let’s go!” The questions were flying for us parents. Is it wise to travel to India with a two-year-old? What would we do (it happened) if the kids got very sick? Would they be able to handle a road trip on Rajasthan’s bumpy, dusty roads using public transport? Could they handle the shock of such a different world—the dirt, poverty, pollution, noise (…and the smell, as they say), the spicy food, monkeys, mosquitoes, snakes, tigers, leopards, and so on? In short, all the clichés that I usually joke about suddenly became potential realities. Another concern: as a mixed Franco-African family (not me, but my partner and her oldest), wouldn’t we risk not always being well received, given what you sometimes hear about that in India? How would Indians react to seeing a mixed-race family, the ultimate taboo in a country of purity and social segregation, which would undoubtedly raise many questions for them? Of course, not everything went as expected… Because, as you know, with India—and what makes it charming for some—there are always complications: sometimes where you don’t expect them… and sometimes where you do. I’ll go into detail about that in the journal to come (not right away) and in the final review (even later). These experiences could be useful to travelers who find themselves in similar situations and have the same questions we did before embarking on such a journey. And maybe it’ll spark the curiosity of those who aren’t concerned and will read yet another Rajasthan journal, but with its own unique twists.

Despite my unchanged constraints, which mean I have little time to write this, I don’t want to rush the story, so I’ll take my time. There will probably be lulls. I hope that won’t stop people from coming to react, debate, share their impressions, or ask for information.

Kattegat isn’t just the name of the village in the TV series *Vikings*—it’s also the stretch of water separating Denmark from Sweden... the sea, basically! And further north, you’ve got Norway and its fjords! Originally, I’d planned to just do a loop around Kattegat, with the *Under* restaurant in Lindesnes as our anniversary treat... but along the way, we thought, why not "push" a little further north, keeping an eye on the budget since we’d chosen to travel by car in June 2025 through Scandinavia.

Why by car when most travelers opt for a camper van, while others prefer the comfort of cruises? Well, because we don’t own a camper van, renting one is pricey, and then you’ve got to add fuel costs (those things guzzle gas!), ferry fees, and other "tolls." All things considered, we went for mostly rentals—especially since there were four of us at the start of the trip. We spent the first week in Denmark with our daughter and son-in-law. Then they flew back to Belgium, and we continued our adventure as a couple. For accommodation, we mainly booked Airbnb apartments, which helped keep costs down and, most importantly, let us prepare our own meals (diet, diet!). In this travel journal, you’ll discover (or rediscover, for those who followed my older ones) our unbridled love for theme parks, museums, unique experiences, and—especially in Denmark—Legos! Unfortunately, we didn’t do any hikes this year because the unpredictable weather had made the trails slippery, and since I’d already taken three tumbles during the trip, I didn’t want to risk another! In the end, we traveled for 32 days, covered 6,200 km, and most importantly, discovered the charming country of Denmark, marveled at Norway’s breathtaking fjords—all without suffering the heatwave that hit France and Belgium that June! If you’ve got any questions, don’t hesitate to ask!

Je vous donne rendez-vous ici pour vos photos hors concours, pour discuter, échanger, conseiller, apprendre et s'amuser 😛

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Hello,

C'est ici qu'on en parle.

Philippe

Bonjour,

Après la Vélodyssée (Aout 2018), le Japon/Okinawa (Aout 2019) et les trails de Nouvelle-Zélande (Décembre 2019) : j'ai le projet de faire un nouveau voyage en cyclotourisme de 12 jours en Aout 2020.

Le hic est que j'hésite entre la ViaRhona et la Meuse à vélo : je recherche donc des retours d'expérience de personnes qui auraient déjà effectué l'une ou l'autre

Mes critères sont assez classiques : des beaux paysages, du soleil (départ prévu le 20/08 donc pas trop de souci à priori) et des parcours roulants : j'adore en effet rouler en suivant un cours d'eau comme j'ai pu le faire sur le canal de Brest (même si certains trouvent ça monotone moi j'adore 😛 !!) mais pas contre je n'aime pas rouler à moins de 25 km/h sinon je m'ennuie (du coup au moins 100 km/jour en général). Je roule en général assez léger avec une seule sacoche Ortlieb sur porte bagage arrière et en vélo gravel Trek crossrip 3 (pas de camping donc, je dors toujours en hotels, auberge, Airbnb)

En bref, je suis preneur de toutes informations qui pourrait m'aider à choisir !!

Cordialement

Salut à tou(te)s. Gagnant du concours d'avril 2020 il m'échoit de vous proposer celui de mai 2020 :

En ce mois de mai propice aux défilés, surtout le 1er en temps normal (sans pandémie donc sans distanciation physique), je vous propose le sujet du concours de photo du mois « Défilés et Cortèges » avec les précautions suivantes :

Ce sera celui de participants au défilé en nombre, en extérieur, pour une cause explicite dans l'image proposée (pancarte ou slogan, costumes, décor...). Ce ne sera donc ni la déambulation d'une foule, même bigarrée, ni une file d'attente, mais un cortège de rue qu'il soit religieux, militaire, funéraire, festif, revendicatif, exprimant joie ou peine, colère ou détermination. La foule qui peut l'accompagner ne sera pas l'objet central de la photo mais son complément (prouvant son audience). Voir l'introduction de l'article Défilé sur Wikipédia : On l'aura compris : pas de défilé d'animaux, de chars, ni de roches fracturées : des gens qui se réunissent pour une cause explicite, affichant leurs costumes, leurs uniformes.

Exemples : Cortège du Palio de Sienne (août 2012) :

Fête des vignerons 2019 à Vevey, bout de fanfare :

Fête des saintes patronnes de Santa Fiora (Toscane - juillet 2009). Toutes obédiences des autorités municipales à la fin de la procession :

Participation Chaque participant(e) peut proposer jusqu'à 3 photos, et ce jusqu'au vendredi 22/05 à 20h00, heure de Paris. Chaque photo sera présentée dans un seul message, en indiquant son numéro (1, 2 ou 3). Pensez à ajouter une petite explication, commentaire, localisation, date de prise de vue.

Vote Chaque membre VF peut voter pour les 3 photos qu'il ou elle juge les meilleures selon ses propres critères et en tenant compte du thème.

Les votes se feront du samedi 23/05 au vendredi 29/05 à 20h00, heure de Paris. Les photos choisies seront citées dans l'ordre de préférence : - la 1re photo : 3 points - la 2e : 2 points - la 3e : 1 point

Un seul et unique vote pour 3 photos est accepté par membre.

Conclusion Le vainqueur est l'auteur de la photo ayant reçu le plus de points. Les résultats seront publiés le 30/05. En cas d'égalité, le nombre de premières places prévaudra. Le vainqueur aura l'honneur d'organiser le concours du mois de juin.

Le diaporama est là. La discussion est là

À vous de jouer !

Bonjour,

Quelqu'un a-t-il une information fiable quant à la définition des 100 kms évoqués par le Premier Ministre ? S'agit il de 100 kms à vol d'oiseau du domicile ou 100 kms en suivant des routes ou des chemins, ce qui, bien sûr, change la donne ? Merci.

EN Tous les cas dans notre malchance que notre voyage tombe à l'eau pour Végas on vient d'avoir la possibilité par agoda de demander remboursement de la réservation d'hôtel en totalité (cette réservation était initialement non remboursable ni modifiable!!) un message indique avant la manipulation d'annuler que c'est une situation exceptionnelle... ils ont été très réactif depuis l'annonce faite cette nuit par les USA!! donc déjà bonne nouvelle

ils ont été très conciliant.. on va tenter maintenant de joindre BRITISH..... :)))humm very difficult

merci AGODA DE cette réactivité

Bonjour tout le monde, Je lance cette discussion pour évoquer un aspect douloureux de notre pratique cycliste qui est le risque d'accident. Prés de 200 cyclistes ont trouvé la mort sur la route en 2018, dans la plus part des cas cela résulte d'une "rencontre" avec une automobile ou un poids lourd.

Il est évident , tout cycliste le constate, que le comportement des automobiliste est parfois (souvent ?) la cause de ces accidents mais nous cyclos nous pouvons contribuer à diminuer le nombre d'accidents.

Comment ? - Nous rendre plus visible: Rouler avec au moins un haut visible, fluo Adopter un feu de jour clignotant à l'arrière , voire à l'avant choisir des couleurs voyantes pour nos sacoches

- Apprendre à bien nous comporter sur la route éviter de rouler à plusieurs de front utiliser les bandes et pistes cyclables quand elles existent Ne pas rouler à droite dans les ronds points respecter le code de la route (s'arrêter au feu rouge !)

Ce sont quelques pistes pour ouvrir le débat...

Bonjour

Nous sommes bien sûr tous des voyageurs et c'est ce qui nous rassemble ici.

Mais nous avons tous une vision différente du voyage et n'y accordons pas la même importance.

Quelle place accordez vous au voyage dans votre vie ?

Est ce un loisir comme un autre ? Une passion ? Un vrai besoin ? Pouvez vous vous en passer facilement ?

Voici le lieu idéal et recommandé pour parler de photo, de pêche, de photos de pêche !

🙂

C'est ici que l'on discute dans la bonne humeur et le respect de l'autre du concours du mois de novembre.😏 C'est aussi ici que l'on partage des photos en "OFF du concours" avant d'avoir trouver "la" bonne photo pour le concours. Retour au concours de novembre: voyageforum.com/...5795;live=1;#9805795

Encore un carnet sur la Namibie…. Purée ça saoule un peu à la fin…. Je vous répondrai : qu’importe le voyage pourvu qu’on ait l’ivresse. En tout cas, soyez rassurés (ou pas) ce récit ne sera pas aussi « en direct » que celui de Tidju, pas aussi « fleuri d’expressions » que celui de Tahie (j’adore ton Nom di chtoupette), pas aussi « exhaustif et documenté » que celui de Rouquine… Sans parler de toutes les magnifiques photos que ces trois là (et bien d’autres avant eux) ont déjà balancées sur ce forum. Bref il sera, je pense, à notre image, un peu dilettante….🤪 Soyez indulgents... Nous avons voyager en juillet août et aussi en couple (59 et 55); l'un n'empêchant pas l'autre.😉 Et contrairement à la plupart des membres participant au VF Namibie nous n’avons pas opté pour le logement en tente sur le toit. Nous dormirons les 30 nuits en « dur » dans différents lodges, guestfarms ou guesthouses De plus nous avons choisi d’adopter un rythme peu soutenu (nous restons quasi chaque fois 2 nuits au même endroit) et des étapes courtes. Voici notre itinéraire (5550 km quand même) : Windhoek - Mariental - -Luderitz 2 nuits - Tirasberge 2 nuits - Sesriem 2 nuits Rantberge 2 nuits - Swakopmund 2 nuits - Brandberg 2 nuits - Grootberg 2 nuits Camp Aussicht - Opuwo - Epupa Falls 2 nuits - Kunene River Lodge 2 nuits - Kamanjab Etosha Okaukuejo 2 nuits - Etosha Namutomi 2 nuits - Otjiwarango - Okondjima - Windhoek

Bonjour à toutes et tous, voyageuses, voyageurs, et autres lecteurs.

Pour ce mois d'octobre, la température baisse, l'été s'est définitivement fait la malle pour laisser la place à l'automne. Saison particulièrement photogénique (à mes yeux), c'est un thème qui me parait fort opportun pour ce nouveau mois, bien de saison, et accessible au plus grand nombre ! Et sauf erreur de ma part, je ne l'ai pas vu dans les thèmes passés...

C'est une saison que j'apprécie particulièrement et qui généralement me pousse à ressortir mon appareil photo à l'issue d'une saison estivale à la lumière trop dure et une fréquentation trop forte, qui ont tendance à le laisser au fond du placard.

Alors j'espère voir au travers de ce concours, des images de couleurs automnales à travers le monde. Éclairées d'une lumière douce, dorée, accompagnées de cours d'eau, en miroir au dessus d'un lac, des mélèzes couleur "feu" dans les plus belles vallées, des feuilles virevoltantes, ou que sais-je encore, laissez libre cours à votre créativité - mais en gros, les couleurs devront se situer quelque part entre le jaune, l'orange et le rouge !!! 🙂

En outre, l'automne est généralement synonyme de retour des pluies, ce qui redonne vie aux torrents et cascades. L'occasion alors de mettre de la couleur dans ses compositions, comme ici, à la source de l'Urederra en Espagne (je précise que les couleurs sont naturelles .. !) :



Pour participer : Dépôt des photos jusqu’au vendredi 25 octobre à 23h59 Vous pouvez poster jusqu’à 3 photos, numérotées et postées dans des messages différents. Prenez le temps d'y ajoutez un petit texte qui explique l'histoire de la photo, où elle a été prise, pourquoi elle vous évoque l'automne (dans le cas où ça ne serait pas évident ..)

Pour voter : du samedi 26 octobre 0h01 au jeudi 31 octobre à MIDI (j'ai bien dis 12h00 !) 😛

Merci d’indiquer le numéro de la photo, le pseudo et le nombre de points attribués. Photo n°1 = 3 pts Photo n°2 = 2 pts Photo n°3 = 1 pt

Tous les membres de VF peuvent voter (même ceux qui n’ont pas déposé de photos). En cas d’égalité de points pour la première position, la photo gagnante sera celle ayant obtenu le plus grand nombre de 1ères places, puis de secondes places ! L’heureux gagnant pourra organiser le concours photo du mois de Novembre.

Ce topic n'est que pour poster des photos participantes au concours! Pour les discussions et les photos hors concours, je vais créer un autre topic en suivant !

A vos appareils (ou à vos disques durs, pour les fainéants 😄)

Bonjour à tous, je souhaitais partager mon expérience. Je suis française née en France d'origine Africaine. Nous sommes actuellement en Espagne à Competa proche de Malaga. Je suis ici avec ma famille mon mari français (blanc) et nos enfants métisses. Je me suis trouvée a maintes reprises dans des situations assez choquantes en 2019, avec l'ouverture des frontières, et l'intelligence culturelle qui selon moi etait partagée dans l'Europe Entière..Je suis citiyenne du monde , nous Avons énormément voyager mais je vous assure que cette partie de l 'espagne est de loin la plus raciste que je n'ai jamais rencontré. Il y a clairement un manque de connaissance et d'intelligence de la population ce qui est triste. Je parle couramment espagnol, a chaque fois que les "xénophobes" me croisais sans craintes ils se mettaient a m insulté ou a parler de moi sans se demandé si jr comprenais... L'homme peut etre ignard par moment. Pour rigoler j' ai un matin interrompu la discussion d'une vendeuse avec ses cliente qui parlait ouvertement, je suis aller vers elles, lui est demandé en Espagnol si elle avait un problème et si tout allait bien . Je peux vous assurer qu'elle s'est senti tout petite n'a plus lever les yeux.... Bref pour ma part cette experience me permet d'eduquee mes enfants qui sont aussi citoyens du monde sur le respect de l 'humain et la tolerance face à la difference. J'ai même eu le droit à ' elle est belle mais jamais je pourrais me faire une noire'" j'en passe ..... Je suis toutefois heureuse de voir que La France reste un magnifique pays dans lequel la chance est donné à l'humain. Je suis cadre dans 1 tres grande entreprise grace a mes etudes . Nous restons encore 10 jours ici. Je vais continuer à profiter de mon séjour en famille etre fiere de qui je suis , aller vers les gens et savourer cette regions dont certains coins sont magnifiques