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Uganda: 20 days discovering authenticity
by 27fifi · 2019-12-15 · 178 replies
Preamble:

For summer 2019, the idea was to return to Africa. We had already been to Namibia in 2017 (+ a few days in Botswana and the end of the trip at Victoria Falls), which we loved, and a trip to Asia in 2018 (Borneo, Perhentian, and Singapore), a nature-focused trip but a bit disappointing due to environmental destruction. The desire to return to Africa was very strong. We wanted a change of scenery, nature, discoveries, to step out of our little comfort zone (a bit, anyway!) and experience travel differently. In short, we dreamed of authenticity, and we weren’t disappointed.

We traveled as a family of four with our daughters, aged 19 and 17. When the urge for Africa hit, Uganda quickly stood out, especially for the chance to see rare animals, particularly the famous mountain gorillas. When I looked into the budget, I was quickly disheartened. It’s really expensive. Too expensive… Then, after reading a few trip reports on "VoyageForum" (thanks Muriel J!), I decided to ask a local agency for a quote. The first contact was very friendly and responsive, and the initial offer for two weeks fit our budget :). A few images gathered from the internet (especially Sipi Falls) finally convinced us all. I asked for an adapted offer with a few more sites to extend the trip to three weeks and cover a fairly complete visit to the country (which, of course, increased the budget! To stay within an acceptable range, we prioritized activities over accommodations and regularly chose the cheapest options, with 2-3 nice lodges in between). It’s booked! We were in October 2018, and the first thing to do was reserve permits to see the gorillas and chimpanzees. Then, the agency took care of all the bookings except for the international flights, which we booked with Ethiopian Airlines. A few months of waiting to look forward to… and a little worry too! Two events didn’t reassure us: the kidnapping of an American tourist by four men at the DRC border and the Ebola outbreak in Congo, with confirmed cases in Uganda by mid-June…

Here we are in July, and departure is approaching. The suitcases are packed (warm clothes, long, short, dark, light, practical, sun, rain, hiking/trekking shoes, flip-flops—clothes for every situation! Don’t forget: headlamp (essential!), binoculars, cameras), and we’re ready.

One day before departure, our agency Mpolampola, through its manager Paul, informs us that he won’t be the one taking care of us during the trip but another guide named Moses. He has a big problem with a vehicle and can’t do otherwise. For us, as long as everything is okay, no worries, especially since I had read glowing reviews about Moses, who turned out to be a very pleasant guide, cautious (most important) on the road, clear about all the activities, and an expert on birds, his specialty. We briefly met Paul in the middle of the trip, who is also very friendly. In short, we 100% recommend this agency. Flights to Entebbe went smoothly; we arrived around 10:30 AM, filled out health forms (Ebola information signs everywhere), visas, baggage claim, and met Moses, who took us directly to the vehicle. It was in pretty good condition with huge tires (we’d understand why later!), but it had quite a few miles (400,000 on the odometer!). Just missing a seatbelt… Okay, it’s Africa!

Now, here’s our day-by-day itinerary, which I’ll summarize briefly with ratings for each activity: ****TOPISSIME (Amazing) ***Very good **Good *Meh

Day 1) Departure from the airport at 11:45 AM for some currency exchange. Stop along the way at the equator for a meal and souvenir photo! Arrival at Lake Mburo Park *** around 5:00 PM. Even before entering the park, we saw lots of antelopes, zebras, elks, etc.—it’s magnificent. On the way, we had already encountered many goats and cows, and we were impressed by their enormous horns. We enjoyed a nice game drive until about 7:00 PM, when we reached our lodge, one of the nicest of the trip, Eagle’s Nest ****, with a magnificent view, a tent with a nice bathroom/shower, and a very good meal.

Day 2) Departure at 7:00 AM for a game drive; we encountered many animals again, especially antelopes, zebras, and birds. There are no giraffes, lions, or cheetahs in this park. We didn’t get lucky enough to see a leopard… :-) Then, we continued to Lake Bunyonyi ***, where the road and views are very beautiful, but we were shocked to see locals (mostly women and children) breaking stones by hand on the mountainside in very precarious safety conditions. There are regularly dramatic accidents because, over time, entire sections detach and cause landslides. These stones are then used for road construction… Another world… This was the only place we saw this. Lake Bunyonyi is a nice stop (but less exotic in our opinion since we have many lakes back home too!). We took a boat to our accommodation, Byoona Amagara ***, which has a lot of charm. We stayed in huts called "geodomes," completely open to nature, so it was very cool at night. To reach the toilets located below, you had to be brave! The meal consisted of lake shrimp—good but a bit bland.

Day 3) After a good breakfast, departure at 9:00 AM to visit three islands. We took several nice walks with beautiful views of the lake and islands. A local meal was served on the last island. At 1:00 PM, we met Moses for the rest of the program and headed to Ruhija in Bwindi Forest****. The landscapes are breathtaking. After two hours of driving and many photo stops, we arrived at our accommodation near the trekking starting point, Ruhija Gorilla Friends Resort **. We stayed in a room instead of the initially planned tents, which was just as well because there was a lot of wind during the night. We still had time for an activity and decided to meet the Bwata pygmies despite the bad reviews in the guide… The first part of the visit was quite nice, with a visit to a school where the children gave us a very joyful welcome. We had a great time listening to them sing and dance! Then we met the Bwata pygmies who live on the edge of the forest. When Bwindi Forest was declared a national park, they had to leave their habitat because their activities weren’t compatible with nature and wildlife protection. We left on a somewhat sad note… The visit ended with a local doctor explaining different medicinal plants, and we watched the making of local beer from sorghum. Good meal. We had butterflies in our stomachs—tomorrow was a big day! I admit I was a bit stressed, not entirely confident in my physical abilities…

Day 4) After a short night due to excitement, breakfast, and departure at 7:30 AM. First, it started calmly with singing and dancing. Then, a 15-minute briefing and group assignments. No one asked if we had any physical problems or anything (when booking, I had inquired a bit, and they told me groups were assigned based on physical abilities). We were assigned to the Mukiza group. At first, I was pretty happy—it was a fairly large group with babies :). The ranger explained that for now, they didn’t know where the gorillas were… the trackers couldn’t find them… Oh… (that’s not a good sign!!!) We set off at a good pace, first on a reasonably sloped path. We were accompanied by a family of four Italians and five porters (four for us!). After an hour, the ranger stopped us and informed us they still couldn’t find them—they had fought with another group the day before and scattered throughout the forest, so they were very far away, and we needed to move faster… Hmm… we picked up the pace (we weren’t going slowly before!!!) and walked for another good hour—down, up, down again, up again, we kept going, but always more or less on paths. Then another stop. A 10-minute break waiting for news. The news wasn’t very precise, it seemed! The ranger decided to cut through the forest—machetes were used to clear the path. We descended unimaginable slopes, then climbed back up. Our stick kept getting stuck; luckily, our porter helped us, held our hands, and the terrain was vertical! An hour later, another stop: we heard gorilla cries (yay!!!). False hope—we waited again for news from the trackers, who informed our ranger that it was a non-habituated family, so we couldn’t see them. Cold shower—we had to go all the way back up and return to the starting point to maybe see another group. But time was running out… We arrived around 1:30 PM; all the other groups had already left long ago. Our guide was worried because we still had a long drive ahead. We quickly ate a banana, and off we went for another trek (I was exhausted!). Luckily, this group was close—about 45 minutes of steep descent (I was already thinking about the climb back and considering being adopted by a gorilla ). The forest was sublime, with magnificent tree ferns—the place was truly splendid. Finally, we were there. The porters stayed behind, we grabbed our cameras, and followed the ranger. The progress wasn’t easy, but suddenly, a female was in front of us, curled up in a little ball, eating—so cute. The emotion overwhelmed us. But she moved away—it’s hard to observe them; they move constantly, and the terrain is very steep and uneven. We saw a female descending from a tree with a baby on her back—too adorable. Then, here was the silverback, enormous, incredible, yet so calm and peaceful. He ate quietly and gave us a nice demonstration of nostril exploration! We could observe them for a good hour, but photographing them wasn’t easy because they kept moving, and we could barely stand! Toward the end, a large male (black back) suddenly stood up and decided to pass right where I was! I ended up in the bushes, and the male passed in front of me just a few centimeters away (he stepped on one of my daughters’ feet!) followed by the whole family. Just an exceptional moment. It was time to leave; we had to climb back up. I dreaded it because, I admit, I was exhausted. We finished the hike after 4:00 PM, exhausted but happy. The ranger gave us diplomas, and we didn’t linger because we still had a long drive—we needed to reach Ishasha before nightfall. Our guide was a bit stressed. If we were to do it again, we’d spend an extra night in Bwindi. However, it seems finishing so late is exceptional—it never happens, according to our guide! The road between Bwindi and Ishasha is sublime, with extraordinary landscapes, and despite the late hour, we regularly asked our guide to stop for photos. We arrived at Enjojo *** Lodge around 6:00 PM. The huts are located quite far from the reception and the bathrooms, a bit far from the huts, but otherwise, it was very nice.

Day 5) Departure at 8:00 AM after a good breakfast with the hope of seeing tree-climbing lions (no luck!). Overall, there weren’t many animals, and we arrived around 12:45 PM at our next stop, Parkview Safari Lodge ****, with a magnificent view, a beautiful family bungalow, and a good meal. We enjoyed a short relaxation by the lovely pool. At 4:00 PM, we left to see Kyambura Gorge *** and hike there. Unfortunately, this activity is no longer available, so we walked around the area—it was very beautiful. Back at the hotel, a little rest after the previous day wasn’t a bad idea! Reading, swimming, meals, and dances made the end of the day enjoyable.

Day 6) Departure at 6:30 AM—one of our daughters was sick (stomachache, cold sweats…). Safari in Queen Elizabeth ** (Kaseny Plains)—a bit disappointing. Stop by the salt lake with a nice view. A small market, but we weren’t thrilled by the crafts (overall, apart from some beautiful baskets/plates, there wasn’t much, and the wooden objects were, in our opinion, much less pretty than in Namibia). Then we took the crater road (27 km long) **** with magnificent landscapes. However, you absolutely must close the windows because it’s infested with tsetse flies. At noon, we arrived at Mweya, where we stayed in basic rooms, but the restaurant was well-placed with a beautiful view of the Kazinga Channel. At 2:00 PM, we enjoyed a magnificent cruise **** on the channel. Elephants, antelopes, crocodiles, hippos (including adorable babies), buffaloes, all kinds of birds. Wow!!! Two hours of pure bliss. Quiet end of the day playing cards with a view of the channel and elephants.

Day 7) Departure at 6:00 AM—still sick, we weren’t sure if it was due to the preventive treatment (Malarone) or something else… Another game drive in Queen Elizabeth (Kaseny Plains) and breakfast by the salt lake. Overall, we were a bit disappointed by this park. Then we took the road to Crater Lakes***, again with very beautiful landscapes. A hike of about an hour and a half allowed us to discover these beautiful crater lakes (the water mainly comes from the Rwenzoris). We crossed pretty villages and had nice encounters. End of the day at Tinka’s Home ****, with a family. We loved this place—very welcoming, where we took a cooking class with our hosts. A really great time. After the meal, we enjoyed African stories and dances. Really awesome.

Day 8) Departure at 7:30 AM for another highly anticipated discovery—the chimpanzees in Kibale Forest ****. We went to the meeting point and were split into groups of six, each with a guide. We saw three different groups, and for the last group, we followed a chimpanzee (slightly more comfortable running in the forest than we were!) that led us to the group. Their cries are very impressive, and we could observe them well, even though they were often high up in the trees. We were lucky enough to see two on the ground, very close to us. It was magnificent. End of the encounter and return to the starting point—it was noon. We went back to Tinka’s Home for the meal (delicious!). At 2:00 PM, we hiked in Bigodi Swamp ***, a marsh surrounded by beautiful vegetation, especially huge papyrus, and inhabited by many birds and monkeys. We saw, among others, black-and-white colobus monkeys, red colobus monkeys, and vervet monkeys. We also visited a basket-weaving workshop where we bought two beautiful baskets. Then a short stop in Fort Portal, where we stayed for two nights at Ruwenzori View Guesthouse ***, a nice place with a family room and very good communal meals.

Day 9) Departure at 8:00 AM for a hike in the Rwenzori****—it was a bit chaotic today. First, we had to exchange shillings because we wouldn’t have another chance in the following days. At the bank, employees went to get the bills by motorcycle from other buildings—it was quite surreal! And it took time! Then there was a misunderstanding between the organizer and me… I really wanted to see the region where chameleons are found in the Rwenzori—this region is south of the mountain range, and we were in the north! Anyway, the program included an ascent in the northern part with a positive elevation gain of over 1,500 meters… Talking to the guide scheduled for this hike (Noah), we explained that we really wanted to discover the vegetation and these famous chameleons, not necessarily achieve a physical feat… (we’d had enough!). The decision was made to go south, which meant quite a bit of driving. The hike was really enjoyable, with magnificent vegetation by the river. We saw three of the four chameleon species present, including the famous three-horned chameleon. The region is superb. We ended with a drink at Ruboni Camp, which has a magnificent view of the region (ideally, we should have stayed there). Two hours of driving to finish, and a good meal :).

Day 10) Departure at 8:00 AM—we had a long drive to Ziwa Rhino Ranch****. We passed through Hoima, had lunch in Masindi, and arrived in time for the rhino tracking walk. We could approach them closely on foot—it was impressive. We saw eight. Since we were staying on-site in the guesthouse **, we received precise safety instructions for moving between the rooms and the restaurant. And we quickly understood why!

Day 11) Departure at 6:00 AM for breakfast—surprise, in front of our room, several large rhinos were sleeping (we had also heard a lot of animal noises during the night—rhinos but also what seemed to be predators). So we had to take a detour to reach the restaurant! Second surprise—next to the restaurant, just three meters away at most, two mothers and their baby were also sleeping! Memorable! Then we had an appointment for the shoebill trek and canoe ride **** (package with the previous day’s walk). So there we were, in our boots, splashing through 30 cm of water in search of the shoebill (I really wanted to see one :))! It was really fun, and luck was on our side—a shoebill had just landed in the distance! We approached as best we could and observed it from afar. What a strange bird! There are very few left, and Uganda is one of the countries where the chances of seeing one are quite good. The tour continued with a canoe cruise where we saw a herd of cows (the famous ones with enormous horns) being swum as a dowry to the father of the future bride! A funny spectacle. This stop wasn’t the most anticipated, but we all thought it was really worth the detour. Road to Murchison Falls Park, and arrival around noon at Red Chili Rest Camp **, where we stayed for two nights (family banda). Good meal. Then a cruise to Murchison Falls*** where we disembarked and continued on foot. It was pretty. Back to Red Chili.

Day 12) This morning, early departure for a cruise in search of the shoebill*** (booked in case we didn’t see one at Ziwa). The landscapes were pretty, but there weren’t many birds in the end. We spotted the chosen one from afar after the first 10 minutes—so the suspense didn’t last long :-) It was a nice activity but quite long—5 hours. In the afternoon, safari in Murchison Park****—this park is sublime, the landscapes fabulous. Really one of our favorite parts of the trip. Lots of animals and even a leopard spotted with binoculars because it was far away! Night at Red Chili.

Day 13) Departure for the first morning ferry—it was drizzling, the sky was threatening at first, so the landscape was spectacular! Beautiful contrasts. In the middle of the morning, we were lucky to observe a whole group of lions, first from afar, then with a little patience, the whole group approached until they passed beside and in front of our vehicle. What emotion and excitement! We could then observe large groups of giraffes. They were magnificent. The morning was incredible. Then we headed to our lodge, Fort Murchison ****, and on the way, we saw a whole group of elephants—the view was magnificent. We had a very good meal and enjoyed the pool a bit. We also met Paul, the organizer of our trip. Very nice :). In the late afternoon, off for a short safari in the park. We slept in very well-equipped tents.

Day 14) Today, we had a long drive to Kidepo Park. It was raining, which didn’t help our guide—according to him, the tracks near Kidepo turn to mud with rain and become difficult to navigate. We saw, among other things, a bus in a bad situation in the ditch. Some sections were really tricky, and we were glad to have a driver. The end of the trip—the landscape was spectacular and original, and we saw some traditional villages. We arrived at Kidepo quite late. Short safari in the park before reaching the accommodation. We booked two simple bandas in the park camp**. It was clean but didn’t hold up well in the rain . The restaurant was very nice, though.

Day 15) The day was dedicated to discovering Kidepo Park **** where the landscapes were again superb. First encounter with a lioness resting on a rock. We saw other lions later and observed them for a long time. There were almost no other tourists in the park. Our daughter wasn’t feeling well, and by the time we arrived at the lodge, she had a temperature of 39.5°C (103.1°F)… A nap was necessary. In the late afternoon, we returned to the spot where we had seen the lions that morning, and they were still there—they weren’t happy because rain was threatening! It was a great photo opportunity. Then came the downpour, and our driver urged us to return quickly because the tracks were becoming impassable. Indeed, a jeep was in the ditch… The return was eventful, and several times we slid without being able to do anything… Wow, what a day!

Day 16) No safari this morning because of impassable tracks—the road to Kotido*** was longer than expected as we had to take a detour. The landscapes along the way were surprising. We finally arrived around 1:00 PM at the accommodation and left at 3:00 PM to visit the largest manyatta in East Africa with two translators. It was incredible—a very beautiful experience. The manyatta is immense and has 28,000 inhabitants. Night at Karamojaarts guesthouse*—very average meal.

Day 17) Departure for Moroto****—on the way, we saw many bird species. Moroto doesn’t look like other Ugandan cities. Life there seems very pleasant. We arrived at Kara-Tunga and had a bite to eat. At 4:00 PM, we left to visit a Karamojong village. We enjoyed beautiful dances and watched communal games—it was fun and so authentic. Then we headed to a kraal (where shepherds and herds are) to set up our camp. Moses had to get used to the idea of sleeping in the tribe in a tent! It was incredible to find ourselves in this universe. The place was beautiful, and we had a great time with the Karamojong. Some had never seen white people… had never been in a car… Their culture is incredible. During the evening, around the fire, to our guide’s dismay (a bird enthusiast), they grilled hornbills! On our side, we ate a meal prepared by Kara-Tunga for our sensitive stomachs! Night in a tent.

Day 18) Dawn wake-up in the fog—the atmosphere was quite strange. Our daughter was attacked by a cow—fortunately, more fear than harm, but she ended up with a lot of thorns in her buttocks and thighs ! Then we left for the Mount Elgon region, specifically Sipi Falls****. Lacam Lodge****, perched on the edge of the cliff with a direct view of one of the falls, was just magnificent. The view and landscapes were fabulous. Big favorite. We had dinner and then went for a hike to visit the three falls in the region, partly in the rain. The landscapes were breathtaking! Sunset at Lacam Lodge with the sun setting over the waterfall. We couldn’t get enough and stayed to admire until nightfall!

Day 19) Visit to coffee plantations*** where we were given all the useful explanations to understand the culture and the incredible work required for this product, which is ultimately not very glorified. The visit was very interesting, and we drank very good coffee with the owners. Last photos at Lacam Lodge, and then departure for Jinja, where we arrived in the middle of the afternoon. We took a small cruise to see the source of the Nile*. Very touristy and not at all to our taste… Then a meal at Jinja Base Camp** where we enjoyed guacamole. Our guide Moses left us because another group was waiting for him!

Day 20) Road to Kampala***, the market, the Gaddafi Mosque. Short but interesting visit. Last meal in Entebbe by Lake Victoria, where we almost felt like we were by the sea. Transfer to the airport and return to Switzerland…

Epilogue: All four of us were enchanted by this trip, which will undoubtedly remain one of the most beautiful we’ve ever taken. Talking about it gives me chills and brings tears to my eyes. It was simply a magnificent experience. However, I wouldn’t recommend this trip to everyone because you often have to overlook small inconveniences like toilets (the worst of my life) and certain comfort details that, for us, remain details but could be important to others.

Our favorites: - The gorilla trek - The cruise on Kazinga Channel - The Fort Portal region - The Rwenzori Mountains - The chimpanzee trek - Murchison Falls - Kidepo - Spending time with the Karamojong tribe - The Sipi Falls region - The accommodations: Eagle’s Nest, Byonna Amagara, Parkview Lodge, Tinka’s Home, Rwenzori Guesthouse, Fort Murchison, Night in the kraal, and Lacam Lodge

What we liked less: - Queen Elizabeth Park - Jinja - The accommodations: Ziwa Rhino Ranch, Karamojaarts Guesthouse

I’ll try to post some photos later. If you have any questions about a future trip, I’d be happy to answer them.
Masai Mara and Melting Pot Safari... So disappointed!
by Chiarafont · 2019-09-11 · 134 replies
Hello everyone,

I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective. First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...). That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.

First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.

Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.

Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on. The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start... During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.) The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance. Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page). Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.

About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...

Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.

I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Really disappointed with Costa Rica!
by Costatraca · 2019-07-03 · 41 replies
Really disappointed with Costa Rica! Pura vida? The scam of the century! (Costa Rica pure emptiness).

The country where animals are free and people are in cages. 3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer. Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness. My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place. On the main routes, we visited: San José Alajuela Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side) Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side) And a few short stops in intermediate towns.

Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:

When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched. He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.

So far, so good.

After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown. What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor. At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.

Downtown San José: It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken. On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox. From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire. Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.

So far, so good.

We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets. Bars with security guards out front. I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.

The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.

So far, so good.

Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel. The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses. The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in. A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park. Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.

Nothing’s going right anymore.

We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further. We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.

Creepy!

The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it. A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces. A total joke—"all that for this?"

The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures. But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.

When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business. Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.

Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.

We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!

Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse! According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.

In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.

No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable. Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.

To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos. A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park! A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)

Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.

7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park. The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color. Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.

Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."

Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded! Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30. The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches. As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves. A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!" For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex! The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for? For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!

We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!

Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.

What we liked:

The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.

What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:

Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.

In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places. In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...

Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs: Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.

If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you. For everyone else: run!

Et maintenant quel pays où l'on ne risque plus rien à voyager?
by Rocket3 · 2019-04-22 · 136 replies
Je me demande quel part de risque suis-je prêt a prendre pour ma famille a vouloir leur faire découvrir le joli coté des cartes postales de voyages idylliques quand la violence et les risques sont chaque jour plus grands partout. Le plaisir des voyages est désormais entaché ou que l'on aille par des violences aveugles.
Quand la nation arc-en-ciel t'emporte au septième ciel!
by Solene40 · 2019-04-14 · 178 replies
Bon ben avec un titre pareil, si j'attire pas le chaland quand même 😉

Coucou à tous donc,

Nous voici, mon jules et moi, de retour de 3 semaines en Afrique du Sud en Mars 2019.

J'avoue que quand j'ai commencé à préparer ce voyage, je pédalais dans la choucroute grave : Sanpark, Game drive, morning walk, Drakensberg, Kwazulu Natal, Biltong... la liste des mots dont le sens m'échappait était hallucinante ! Finalement après des heeeeeures de préparation, on a fini par y arriver !

Le carnet que vous allez lire est celui que je fais en live pour nos proches, proches qui pour la plupart, ne connaissent absolument rien à ce pays. Les grands amoureux de l'AFS liront donc beaucoup d'évidences mais ceux qui préparent leur 1er voyage là bas y trouveront leur compte normalement.

Aller, j'arrête ici mon préambule et en avant toute 😏

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Bon ben voilà, bientôt le grand départ !

Chouchou et Loulou s'apprête à vivre un de leurs plus grands rêves( oui oui, rien que ça 😉).

Parce qu'il faut bien le dire, les chats, les poules, les moutons, les pintades et les canards c'est bien, mais ça va un moment 😉 Cette fois ci on avait envie de gnous, de zèbres, de Koudous, d'éléphants, de girafes, d'autruches, d’hippopotames, de phacochères, d'impalas, de rhinocéros, de hyènes, de pingouins, de guépards et de crocodiles ( non non, aucune erreur dans cette liste 😛).

Et où qu'est ce qu'on peut voir tout ça sans avoir besoin de faire un crédit sur 10 ans et tout seuls comme des grands avec une voiture de location ???? Un seul choix dans le monde (ou presque) : l'Afrique du Sud .

À vrai dire, ça fait déjà des semaines que je me balade dans ce pays, dans son histoire en tout cas, qui est aussi passionnante qu'affligeante !! La lecture du livre de Dominique Lapierre "un arc en ciel dans la nuit" m'a un peu retourné les tripes notamment (me connaissant, j'aurais peut être dû le lire au retour celui là !)

Alors évidement nous sommes très impatients de vivre notre rêve "Out of Africain" mais pour une fois, j'avoue avoir une grosse pointe d'appréhension concernant cette question raciale qui va forcément nous sauter à la gueule !!!

Ouf, j'ai trouvé mon antidote pour me réconcilier avec les Afrikaners !!

Si ce Jonnhy là n'est plus du tout à la mode, je peux vous dire que la lecture de sa biographie renvoie très très loin l'image de "guignol exotique" que certains en ont !!

RV à 2min40 😉 👍👍👍👍👍😍😍😍😍😍😍 et à bientôt pour l'atterrissage

https://youtu.be/BGS7SpI7obY
D'Epupa à Aus: premier voyage à 6 et sans 4x4 (Namibie)
by Adumas4 · 2018-08-02 · 90 replies
Nous voila rentrés depuis hier de notre road trip en Namibie. Je voulais vraiment remercier tous les membres du forum pour leur conseils avisés et leur aide dans l’organisation de ce grand voyage mais aussi tous ceux qui ont mis en ligne des carnets, grande source d’inspiration.

C’est donc mon tour (naturellement) de raconter notre voyage, il n’a rien d’orignal (à part peut être le fait de voyage à 6 et sans 4X4), je ne suis pas une grande narratrice et nos photos n’auront rien de nouveau non plus mais si je peux aider à mon tour ou répondre à des questions se sera un juste retour.

Nous avons voyagé du 9/07 au 1/08 avec nos 4 enfants S. 4ans en Namibie N. 9 ans M. 14 ans et A. 16ans, nous 41 ans (moi aussi en Namibie). Nous avons découvert le roadtrip en camping l’année dernières dans l’ouest américain (et on a aimé !).

Le voyage a été préparé en octobre, je l’ai fait seule car les agences ne voulaient pas organiser notre trip car nous n’avions pas de 4x4 (seulement 3 véhicules tout terrain 8 places dispo à la loc sur Windhoek déjà pris pour nos dates) aucun problème particulier sur les réservations seules par internet, seule la petite angoisse de savoir que si on a un pb sur place on n’aura pas de contact.

Le parcours a été allongé en mars suite à un changement de billets d’avion, 2 jours de plus mais comme tout était complet nous avons seulement pu ajouter 2 jours à la fin de notre voyage (descendre jusqu’à Aus) impossible d’ajouter les jour au milieu du trip de de tout décaller. Voici notre parcours prévu et réalisé (enfin presque) : Arrivée Windhoek 8h40 le 10/07 nuit à Windhoek Garden guest house 11/07 nuit Otjiwarango Hadassa guest house 12/07 visite de l'école péri naua nuit camping Namutoni 13/07 nuit Okaukuejo camping 14/07 nuit Olifantrus camping 15/07 nuit Opuwo country lodge camping 16/07 17/07 nuit Epupa Omarunga camping 18/07 nuit Ongongo camping 19/07 nuit Grootberg loodge 20/07 nuit Brandberg white lady camping 21/07 nuit Spitkoppe camping 22/07 23/07 nuit Swakopmund auberge jeunesse 24/07 nuit camp gecko 25/07 nuit camping Sesriem 26/07 27/07 nuit Namibrand family camping 28/07 29/07nuit Aus Desert horse inn camping 30/07 nuit à Mariental Bastion Farm 31/07 vol à 18h55

Compagnie aérienne (suite au changement en mars) Eurowings, départ de Munich (nous y sommes allés en voiture 800km en 2 fois à l’aller) les horaires sont bons au niveau du service c’est du low cost mais on le savait, aucun soucis.

Notre voiture, en camping avec tout le matériel pas d’autre choix que la van Toyota Quantum (14 places) nous n’avons gardé que 6 sièges et avec tout le matériel (surtout les matelas TOP mais qui prennent beaucoup de place) le coffre était plein. Il n’était pas tout neuf mais aucun gros problème. Par contre on a vraiment du roulé doucement (au départ moins de 60 km/h sur pas mal de piste) les temps de trajets que j’avais prévu larges ne l’étaient pas encore assez. Je pense que le 4X4 même s’il n’est pas indispensable et bien mieux en confort et fait gagner en temps de route. Société de location Desert car hire (peu d’avis sur internet, merci à Guillemine pour ses conseils) rien à dire sur la société ils ont été réactif quand on a eu besoin d’eux et pas embétant lors de la remise du véhicule (malgré un éclat sur le pare brise – nous n’avions pas pris l’assurance complémentaire).

Les TOPs adultes : Epupa / Etosha / Namibrand (moi) et Swakopmund (sortie à la journée pour Monsieur) Les TOPs enfants : Etosha / Namibrand / Swakopmund

Le financier : - Billet d’avion en mars 3600E pour nous 6 (avec 2 bagages en soute et des repas pour le retour) - Location voiture 22jours : 2950E - Logement 2100E pour 21 nuits (1 lodge / 2 auberge jeunesse / 2 guest house / 1 ferme /15 camping) - Restau : 370E (1 buffet lodge / 6 restaux / 1 petit dej) - Visite : 760E - Essence : 340E - Courses : 500E (dont 1 braii pack) - Divers : 300E (souvenirs, dont école, cout à boire, pourboire ….) Total 11000 E pour 21 nuit à 6 (même budget que pour les USA)

Utilisation uniquement de la carte revolut (sauf pour le paiement de la location carte gold pour l’assurance) aucun problème accepté partout. Pour infos nous avions retiré 7500$ à l’aéroport puis encore 3000$ au cours du voyage.

PS j'ai oublié de vous parler des températures : nous avons eu froid la nuit un peu au début Etosha en camping puis à Aus : une nuit à 4°C (nous avions les duvets de l'agence + des couvertures supplémentaires qu'ils nous avaient donné et une autre couverture que j'avais amené, chacun) sinon dans la journée aucun soucis même à Swakopmund, entre 23 et 30°C. Le matériel de camping mêm si pas neuf était très complets, il manquait seulement un économe, ouvre boite et j'avais aussi pris 2 tupperware qui nous ont été utiles (sinon il y avait différentes sorte de couteaux / tire bouchon) Voila pour le global, bientôt le récit (il faut trier les photos …)
2018, l'année des gorilles (mais pas que...)
by Muriel18 · 2018-03-11 · 235 replies
L'Ouganda, c'est simple: on a A-DO-RÉ ... presque tout! On a adoré l'accueil des Ougandais, leur gentillesse et leur humour, la variété des paysages et celle des activités réalisées. On a tout de même moins aimé l'état de certains tronçons de route, la pauvreté et le dénuement de certains villages et les pauses-pipi (ou plutôt les non-pauses-pipi) en cours de route.

Self drive or not self drive? On s'est longtemps posé la question et finalement, on a opté pour un chauffeur guide, Paul (recommandé par certain(e)s). On ne l'a absolument pas regretté: l'Ouganda n'est certainement pas le pays idéal pour faire ses débuts en conduite de 4x4! Comme j'avais potassé un circuit, je l'ai proposé à Paul qui a juste fait une petite modification (pas de nuit entre Entebbe et le MFNP mais à la place, une au lac Bunyonyi ... et il a eu raison!) et qui a réservé pour nous les hôtels que j'avais choisis. Paul s'est avéré un chauffeur ponctuel et très prudent (c'est pas du luxe en Ouganda!) et un guide qui connaissait son pays par coeur, avec un oeil de lynx pour repérer les animaux. On a passé avec lui un super voyage et il nous a souvent fait rire avec ses anecdotes.

La météo: on est parti au tout début de la saison des pluies (vacances scolaires tardives obligent 😕). Si la pluie a finalement été peu gênante (elle a même permis à certaines zones de commencer à reverdir), le ciel souvent gris est quand même pénalisant pour les photos (je m'en suis rendue compte en revoyant les photos de Carmen/Ticapi, beaucoup plus ensoleillées).

Retour à la case départ: les principes de prix des billets d'avion font que le vol Bruxelles-Entebbe est moins cher au départ de Paris qu'au départ de Bruxelles (160€ par personne tout de même!). Alors que nous habitons plus près de Bruxelles que de Roissy, on se décide quand même pour un vol rallongé ... mais moins cher 🤪.

Vendredi 23/02: Nuit au Golden Tulip en park, sleep and fly. La navette pour l'aéroport est à 5h (notre vol à 7h25) ... la nuit est courte!

Samedi 24/02 Le vol décolle de Bruxelles avec une heure de retard. Comme ils ont changé le sens de rotation par rapport au moment où on a pris les billets, on fait un stop à Kigali avant de rejoindre Entebbe... où on arrive à presque minuit. Le temps de passer l'immigration, d'obtenir le visa, de retrouver le chauffeur de l'Airport Guesthouse qui nous attend, on arrive à l'hôtel vers 1h du matin. Même à cette heure là, on est accueillies avec un grand sourire.

Dimanche 25/02 Paul nous a donné rendez-vous à l'hôtel à 7h ... nouvelle nuit très courte! A 7h10, nous voilà partis sur la route du MFNP. La traversée de Kampala se passe sans encombres, le dimanche est un jour calme. Petit arrêt pour changer des euros en shilling et nous voilà repartis. Mis à part des ralentisseurs parfois énormes et pas toujours visibles, la route est plutôt bonne. On arrive au Rhino Ziwa sanctuary vers 11h30. Ils organisent différentes activités mais nous, on est venues pour le tracking à pied des rhinocéros (pas besoin de réserver). Le parc compte maintenant 22 rhinocéros blancs. Ils pensent commencer à en réintroduire dans le MFNP quand ils seront 30. Notre guide s'appelle Ronald. Il nous explique (entre autres) comment se comporter si on se fait charger. Avant tout, surveiller les oreilles: si elles pointent toutes les 2 fixement dans notre direction, méfiance! Et si le rhino charge, grimper dans un arbre ou se cacher derrière un taillis très épais 🤪. Après une courte marche, Ronald nous montre une masse sombre. Nous nous approchons doucement.

Et nous contournons...



Il s'agit d'une maman et de son bébé, né cet été.

Le bébé se lève, il chouine un peu et incite la maman à se lever également:

Nous nous éloignons tranquillement pour apercevoir un peu plus loin, davantage caché dans les hautes herbes un autre couple maman-bébé de l'année.

Petite halte sympa, qui nous a permis de se dégourdir les jambes tout en approchant ces gros animaux, tout de même impressionnants. Il est maintenant temps de reprendre la route pour le MFNP. Muriel
Tu vas encore aux États-Unis, t'en as pas marre?
by Rom3481 · 2017-11-18 · 329 replies
Que répondez vous à vos proches quand ils vous posent cette question qu'on a tous dû avoir... " Tu vas encore aux Etats Unis, t'en as pas marre ?" 😄 Lachez vous !
Namibie - Botswana - Zimbabwe
by Sb82 · 2017-07-01 · 12 replies
Bonjour à tous, Je projette de visiter ces 3 pays en 2-3 mois entre fin août et le mois de novembre prochain. Je me pose quelques questions: - au regard de tous les post sur les délais de réservations des logements, est il envisageable de ne rien réserver du tout avant d'arriver?? Je voyage pendant 1 an et donc ne planifie pas mes nuitées en avance. Vais je tout de même trouver de quoi me loger? Ou je vais aller de galère en galère?...

- de même pour les entrées aux parcs et en particulier pour le Botswana : vais je trouver porte close si je n'organise rien en avance?

- je prévois d'arriver fin août dans cette région du monde afin d'éviter la haute saison et la flambée des prix. Les tarifs sont ils vraiment plus bas à partir de fin août?

- Quel est le meilleur endroit pour louer un véhicule pour explorer la région? Johannesburg? Les passages de frontières sont ils faciles?

- enfin, si le temps est trop court pour ces 3 pays, si vous ne deviez en choisir que 2, lesquels serait-ce?

Merci beaucoup de votre aide! Stéphanie
Sillonner autour Hanoï
by Mariespagne · 2016-07-11 · 51 replies
Bonjour, Mon circuit prend forme pour novembre. En établissant celui-ci et suivant des commentaires, je me rends compte que je dois retourner plusieurs fois à HANOI... Est-ce vraiment une bonne idée??? HANOI - circuit dans le NORD du vietnam... Retour à HANOI pour repartir le lendemain vers le baie d'HALONG. Retour à HANOI le lendemain pour repartir à NING BINH. Retour à HANOI deux jours plus tard pour prendre l'avion pour DANANG (HOI AN)..... Merci pour vos commentaires et vos éclaircissements. MARIE
Notre itinéraire de 3 mois en Afrique du Sud - Namibie - Botswana en 4x4 en famille
by Epfyffer · 2016-02-16 · 42 replies
Salut tout le monde

Notre préparation de voyage autour du monde commence à bien prendre forme. Après avoir posé un contexte solide (travail, école, finances, santé etc...) nous nous sommes attaqués à la première étape de notre périple : l'afrique australe. Nous n'avions que notre date d'arrivée et notre date de départ de Johannesbourg, pour le reste on a beaucoup lu, et beaucoup parlé avec Girardinphoto qui est aussi actif sur le forum et chez qui on a pu trouver un nombre très important de conseils pour cette partie de notre voyage.

Notre idée est de ne pas épuiser les enfants au début de notre périple autour du monde avec des interminables journées de voiture, on a donc essayé de trouver des étapes qui soient digestes pour eux (ils ont entre 6 et 10 ans). Cela implique parfois des étapes "dodo" qui n'ont pas de charme particulier, mais que l'on juge nécessaires... On va essayer de rester parfois 2 nuits au même endroit pour offrir un tout petit peu de "stabilité " (si on ose dire) aux voyageurs. A part quelques exceptions, on devrait pouvoir limiter à 3h30 max de voiture, en essayant de mettre suite à une grosse journée de voiture une journée plus calme.

Pour l'AFS et la Namibie, on n'a pas encore totalement arrêté les endroits où dormir précisément, on a plutôt les noms des villes ou campements, on affinera donc dans les jours et semaine à venir. Pour le Botswana on a plus d'infos car on travaille avec un TO sur place qui nous a proposé des adresses.

Voilà donc ce que ça donne. Je numérote les étapes dans un souci de clareté, pour d'éventuelles discussions futures.

Si vous voyez des incohérences, avant que l'on se lance dans des réservations, ou si vous avez des proposition d'adresses sur les étapes proposées, ou des autres propositions d'arrêts, on est preneurs, n'hésitez pas 😎 😎

Afrique du Sud : 1.Johannesburg (on dort une nuit dans un hotel du loueur de voiture départ le lendemain). 2. Parys : but : ne pas avoir trop de route ce premier jour... Pas d'adresse pour la nuit) 3. Golden Gate Highlands National Park nuit au parc (2 nuits ?) 4. Lammergeier Private NR nuit au parc (certainement 2 nuits)5. Camdeboo National Park (2 nuits au parc) 6. Addo Elephant National Park (2 nuits au parc) 7. Tsitsikamma (2 nuits au Storm River Mouth Camp) 8. Mossel Bay (1 nuit, pas encore d'adresse) 9. Arniston (1 nuit, pas encore d'adresse) 10. Cape Agulhas (1 nuit, pas encore d'adresse)11. Hermanus (1 nuit, pas encore d'adresse) 12. Cape Town (3 nuits, pas encore d'adresse) 13. Citrusdal (1 nuit, pas encore d'adresse) 14. Namaqua National Park (2 nuits dans le parc) 15. Augrabies Falls National Park (2 nuits dans le parc)

Kgalagadi Transfrontier Parc 16. Two Rivers camp (Botswana) 17. Nossob camp 18. Mata Mata (Namibia) Namibie : 19. Mariental (1 nuit) 20. Sesriem (1 nuit) 21. Sossusvlei (2 nuits) 22. Solitaire (1 nuit) 23. Walvis Bay (2 nuits) 24. Cape Cross (1 nuit) 25. Brandberg (2 nuits au camping d'un lodge)26. Twyfelfontein (1 nuit)27. Palmwag (1 nuit) 28. Otjitotongwe (1 nuit à la Cheeta Farm) Etosha : 29. Okaukuejo (1 nuit en camping) 30. Halali (1 nuit en camping) 31. Namutoni (1 nuit en camping) 32. Grootfontein (1 nuit au Roy's Rest Camp )33. Rundu (1 nuit)34. Popa Falls (2 nuit sua Ngepi camping) 35. Camp Kwando (1 nuit)

Botswana 36. Kasane (2 à 3 jours dont 1 jour d'excursion à Victoria Falls) 37. Elephant Sands (1 nuit en camping) 38. Kubu Island (2 nuits en camping) 39. Planet Baobab (1 nuit en camping) 40. Maun (2 nuits en self cathering rooms) 41. Third Bridge (2 nuits en camping) 42. Xakanaxa (1 nuit en camping) 43. South Gate (1 nuit en camping) 44. Maun (2 nuits en hotel) 45. Dizhana (1 nuit en camping) 46. Savuti (2 nuits en camping) 47. Dizhana (1 nuit en camping) 48. Maun (2 nuits en lodge) 49. Xhumaga (1 nuit en camping) 50. Tiaans Camp (1 nuit en camping) 51. Deception (1 nuit en camping) 52. Passarge (1 nuit en camping) 53. Kori (1 nuit en camping) 54. Tuuthebe (1 nuit en self cathering room) 55. Khama Rhino (2 nuits en chalets) 56. étapes évenuelles si il reste du temps 57. Johannesburg (restitution du véhicule)

Carte :



Voilà l'idée de revenir à Maun c'est pour pouvoir faire l'école aux enfants et de ne pas enchaîner 15 jours en safari selfdrive... On fera au final quelques kms de plus mais on devrait y gagner en confort...

Vous voyez des points mal pensés ? ça vous inspire ?

On devrait avoir environ 85 nuits à passer en Afrique australe, là notre planning liste 77 nuits, alors n'hésitez pas à me proposer des étapes à rallonger ou alors des étapes que l'on loupe avec notre programme...

Merci d'avance de vos commentaires 😉😊
Je ne sais pas où partir, Sri Lanka, Inde, Indonésie?
by Dayounette · 2016-02-05 · 56 replies
Bonjour

bon ben voila mon mari vient de m annoncer que l on pouvait partir la maintenant donc comme rien n était prévu je dois trouver une destination mais j ai beau regarder sur le net je commence a ne plus ou donner de la tete ! nous pouvons partir 14 jours nous ne sommes que 2 et avons une preference en cette periode pour le soleil ! nous avons etabli un budget de 2500.00 a 3000.00 euros a nous deux c est ce qu il demande ds les tours operateurs en général nous sommes prets a partir soit en vol sec et trouver guest house a droite et a gauche en visitant le plus possible une partie du pays mais nous ne savons pas encore quel pays ! j aime cette idee de se debrouiller arrives la bas mais moi perso je n ai jamais fait et je reste sur mes gardes en fonction de certains endroits (location de voiture .....) mon mari est parti avec son beau frere l annee derniere au Cambodge en moto 15 jours et ce fut une experience inoubliable a tout point de vue pour lui mais moi jusqu a maintenant c était plutôt hotel plage piscine et visites guidees !!! pourriez vous me dire ce que vous pensez du sri lanka , ou inde , ou indonésie ?? merci beaucoup bonne journee
Premier voyage au Japon
by Melou01 · 2015-08-27 · 17 replies
Bonjour à tous!

J'envisage de partir au Japon (d'ici 1 an ou 2).. la date reste à déterminer! Ce serait pour un voyage d'une dizaine de jours (entre 10 et 15). J'aimerai vraiment pouvoir visiter un maximum de choses sans non plus être crevée dès le 3ème jour. Je me pose un tas de questions et c'est pour cela que je m'y prends tôt!

Quels sont les lieux incontournables pour un premier voyage d'après vous? Où loger pour être au cœur de la culture japonaise? Ne connaissant pas du tout ce pays, est-ce mieux de programmer son voyage seul ou de payer un circuit "préparé" avec guide. Un circuit préparé ne me tente pas plus que ça mais je me dis que pour un premier voyage ça pourrait être une possibilité J'aurai tellement peur de me perdre ^^

J'attends vos avis 😉 Merci d'avance!
Namibie: Reportage TV France 5 samedi 7 mars
by LouisonBillo · 2015-03-02 · 53 replies
Salut,

Toujours à l'affût de ce que l'on peut voir, je vous signale Samedi soir 20h50 sur France 5 dans Echappées Belles1h30 sur la Namibie Bon WE ! Louison
Damaraland et Kaokoland en 2016 (Namibie)
by Emma78 · 2015-02-10 · 157 replies
Bonjour,

Virus quand tu nous tiens.

Revenus de Namibie depuis 10 mois, pas encore partis au Botswana (dans 7 semaines 😎) que déjà nous nous projetons pour un prochain voyage en Namibie en 2016, toujours à la même période, le mois d'avril, pour une quinzaine de jours.

Dans un premier temps, nous avons envisagé un circuit Damaraland / Kaokoland et Caprivi mais cela nous est vite paru infaisable. Nous avons donc décidé de nous concentrer sur le Damaraland et le Kaokaland, avec un mix lodges et camping (cela nous donnera l'occasion de revenir pour faire la bande Caprivi).

Une première ébauche de circuit serait :

J1 - arrivée à Windhoek J2 - ? J3 - Brandberg (camping) J4 et J5 - Palmwag (lodge - Grootberg si possible) J6 et J7 - Puros (camping) J8 - Orupembe (camping) J9 et J10 - Marienfluss (camping) J11 - Etandeka (j'ai bien aimé le lodge où Jety s'est arrêté) J12 et J13 - Epupa (camping) J14 - ? J15 - ? J16 - ? J17 - Windhoek

En J2, je pensais m'arrêter dans la région de l'Erongo, ou alors vers Vingerklip. Avez-vous des suggestions de camping ou lodge sympas.

Une autre interrogation, c'est Marienfluss. J'ai très envie d'y aller, mais à une seule voiture au mois d'avril, j'ai quelques craintes. J'ai suivi avec intérêt cette discussion .

Si nous ne faisons pas Marienfluss, dans ce cas, je pense que nous passerons deux jours au Kunene River Lodge.

Enfin, je ne suis pas très inspirée pour redescendre sur Windhoek en 3 jours. En passant par l'ouest d'Etosha (Olifantrus et/ou Dolomite) ?

Merci de vos avis et suggestions avisés.

Emma
Nos plus belles photos 2014
by Kate · 2014-12-13 · 612 replies
Bonjour à tous les voyageurs photographes du monde 🙂

Bienvenue à notre rendez-vous annuel: "Et si nous terminions l'année en partageant nos plus belles photos 2014 ?"

Je vous propose de poster votre top 10 (maximum car choisir c'est éliminer, éliminer c'est progresser 😛) - la majorité réalisées en voyage - D'autres pour nous faire découvrir un coin de votre pays, ville, village, jardin, maison, cabane... - 1 ou 2 en thème libre

On essaye de ne pas tricher, la photo devra être réalisée en 2014 (attention les exifs sont bavards 😉), qualité de rigueur mais n'oublions pas que nous ne sommes que d'humbles amateurs !

Merci de ne pas tout proposer dans le même message afin d'aérer le fil en postant remarques, critiques ou conseils (bienvenus).
Pourquoi aller en Zambie et au Malawi?
by Voyajou · 2014-09-23 · 45 replies
Jusqu'alors, à l'occasion de nos voyages en Afrique Australe, je ne voyais pas l'intérêt d'aller au nord du Zambèze (sans compter que nous sommes dans cette région à la saison des pluies). J'ai dans l'idée que ce que ces pays apportent pour ce qui est de la faune sauvage je le trouve bien assez au sud et pour ce qui est des populations aussi, en particulier au Zimbabwe et au Mozambique mais également en Afrique de l'Ouest.

Or, on me souffle une envie de Malawi (il y a des noms de lieu qui vous obsèdent) et le Zambèze sera peut-être mon Rubicon (on dit qu'il n'y a qu'eux pour ne pas changer d'avis😇).

Faut-il écouter les sirènes?

Si oui, idéalement, à quoi pourrait ressembler une incursion d'une dizaine de jours (au départ du nord Zimbabwe, retour au Botswana)?
11 jours à Bali, Pâques 2015
by Jclqu · 2014-09-23 · 44 replies
Bonjour tout le monde !

Nous prévoyons un voyage à Bali pour les vacances de Pâques 2015, soient 11 nuit sur place.

Nous sommes une famille de 4, 2 adultes et deux ados, 13 et 17 ans. Nous aimons voir les paysages, découvrir les gens, leur culture, nous balader mais aussi ne rien faire, nager, manger, dormir.. Normal quoi ! 😛

Je prévois de passer quelques jours dans le centre de Bali, Ubud et ses environs en chambre d'hote. Cela sera notre camp de base pour faire l'essentiel des visites à partir de ce point-là, avec taxi-guide. Serons-nous bien placés / pas trop éloignés de certains points d'intérêts ? Faut-il envisager d'itinérer ?

Dans un second temps, je pense aller sur Nusa Lembongan pour se reposer, nager, apprendre à faire du surf...

Forcément, comme à chaque fois qu'on commence l'élaboration d'un voyage, j'ai pas mal d'interrogations.

Temples, faune, rizières... Quels sont les immanquables ? J'avoue m'y perdre un peu..

A gré de mes recherches, je vois par ex. de Komodo d'est pas très loin... Du coup je me demande si ça vaut le coup d'y aller ?

De même, pour les îles Gili, est-ce que c'est un must à coté du quel il ne faut pas passer ? Vaut-il mieux aller à Gili que Lembongan ?

Merci pour vos avis et conseils éclairés !
Retour de 15 jours au Rwanda en 4x4
by Mimal · 2014-09-23 · 15 replies
Super pays époustouflant par ses paysages grandioses ! Une nature luxuriante et si variée (plantations de thé, jungle, lac immense, volcans, forêt primaire, savane) Mon mari a conduit lui même : tout s'est super bien passé (mais les pistes sont parfois difficiles) nous nous sommes toujours senti en sécurité seuls sur les routes Pas de problème pour circuler ni pour trouver du carburant Nous n'avons que des bons souvenirs ! La rencontre avec les gorille est merveilleuse !(prévoir un bon 4x4 type Land Rover) L'Akagéra Park est à faire (éléphants, giraffes, babouins, zébres, hyppos, ...) La forêt primaire de Nuynghwe est magnifique. Nous avons vu des cercophitèques sur la route mais pas d'animaux sur la canopée (trop chère). Nous n'avions pas payé pour voir les singes (il faut un bon 4x4) Vraiment ce petit pays vaut qu'on s'y attarde La nourriture est bonne. Les gens parlent anglais mais beaucoup parlent aussi français
Avis/retour sur loueur de 4x4 en Afrique du Sud?
by Guillaumeste · 2014-01-29 · 83 replies
Bonjour à tous,

En vue d'un voyage an Afrique du Sud et Botswana, il nous sera nécessaire de louer, pour une partie au moins, un 4x4 équipé camping. Après recherches, sur ce forum et ailleurs, j'ai contacté quelques une d'entre-elles, et ma question concerne celle-ci : www.southafrica4x4.co.za

Leur site ne ressemble pas à une coquille vide atrappe-gogos et semble plutôt srieux, leur réponse est assez complète, le contact est bon, (tandis que celles des autres est en gros : "sorry, fully booked"...) et, au feeling, tout ça inspire plutôt confiance. Mais, parano ou pas, comme en plus, les prix pratiqués sont nettement plus bas que les concurrents, je me dis : "tout cela n'est-il pas un peu trop beau ?" J'ai beau fureter, je ne trouve pas de témoignage de gens ayant fait appel à leurs services, et j'avoue que j'aimerais avoir un idée précise d'où je mets les pieds avant de me lancer dans la résa et surtout, le paiement !

Quelqu'un aurait-il des infos ?

Merci d'avance, et pardon pour ce si long post, pour une si simple question ! G

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