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West USA Road Trip August 2022
by Mitch341 · 2025-05-16 · 79 replies
Hello everyone,

I’m starting a travel journal about the amazing round trip I took in August 2022 with a big circuit through the US West.

Here’s what I posted on another travel forum back when VoyageForum hadn’t yet regained its freedom. 😉

Hello!

We got back yesterday in the middle of the afternoon, and here’s a quick first take on the 2022 round trip.

Has America changed? You could say that, yeah. For better? For worse? Who knows. A massive circuit—nearly 8,000 kilometers, actually around 5,000–6,000 miles.

Round-trip flights went smoothly, except for Air France on the way back, which let a rather large dog in the cabin with an owner who let it roam around the plane. Cool, Air France... Outrageous!

The rough itinerary: Salt Lake City. Jackson Hole–Grand Teton. Yellowstone. Cody. Rock Springs. Moab–Arches–Canyonlands. Monument Valley. Grand Canyon. Bryce Canyon. Zion Park. Las Vegas. Death Valley. Mammoth Lakes. Tioga Road. Mariposa. Yosemite Valley. San Francisco.

Tourists on site—a sociological study:

Italians: Always nice but just as loud as ever! Hispanics: Same as the Italians, just a different language. Germans: *Ein, zwei, ach mein Gott!* Order and discipline! Americans: Still no manners whatsoever. Pathetic. I’m only talking about the tourists, not the locals who work there. Quebecers: Pure joy! English-speaking Canadians: Same as the Americans. Asians: For the Japanese, it’s perfect. But the others from the Middle Kingdom... Let’s not start a war over this. There’s already Ukraine going on. And yet... Israelis: Still no manners. The Kibbutz kids are the bane of this country. French: Some excellent, some very good, some good, and some... not much.

Note that tourists in the northern part of the trip were much better behaved than those in the south. "Hello," "Goodbye," offering a hand? Etc. Few Asians in Grand Teton and Yellowstone. Lots of locals. The same goes for hotel staff in the northern part—more attentive. Really cool!

On the other hand, we were pretty surprised not to encounter any African-American locals in Montana, Wyoming, Utah, or even Arizona—whether tourists or employees. It’s quite striking, to be honest.

The Hotels:

Holiday Inn - 206 South West Temple, Salt Lake City, UT 84101, United States. A modern but soulless hotel. Basically, a place to pass through. Minimal breakfast.

Miller Park Lodge - 155 North Jackson Street - Jackson Hole, Wyoming. Not a hotel but a luxury motel. 750 € for two nights!! No breakfast. Huge room where you could hold a tea dance!! Well-located. No staff. Only room of the month-long stay that was fully redone during those two days.

Best Western Weston Inn. 103 Gibbon Avenue, West Yellowstone, MT 59758 Well-located, not far from the park entrance. Minimal breakfast. Friendly staff. Room refreshed every two days.

Best Western Sunset Inn. 1601 8th St, Cody, 82414-4134 Very good. Quiet. Good breakfast. Friendly staff.

Baymont by Wyndham 2717 Dewar Drive, Rock Springs, WY 82901 Very good. Quiet. Good breakfast. Friendly staff. Too many pets that should be "not allowed." Hello, hygiene!

Wingate by Wyndham Moab. 126 South Highway 191, Moab, 84532 End of the "family" hotels. Start of the tourist hotels. Too many pets that should be "not allowed." Hello, hygiene! Minimal breakfast.

Hampton Inn Kayenta. US Highway 160, Kayenta, AZ 86033, United States A stopover hotel run by the Navajos. Friendly staff wearing masks. Lots of people. Too many pets that should be "not allowed." Hello, hygiene! Minimal breakfast.

La Quinta by Wyndham Williams. 1100 Cataract Lake Rd, Williams, AZ 86046, United States Finally, Route 66 for 500 meters! The staff is there. Nothing more. Too many pets that should be "not allowed." Hello, hygiene! Minimal breakfast.

BEST WESTERN PLUS Ruby's Inn. 26 South Main Street, Bryce Canyon City, UT 84764, United States A factory!!! Great Hispanic or Romanian staff! A liquor store in the hotel! Awesome! Very good breakfast, but go early because the crowd—and the jerks—are there! Too many pets that should be "not allowed." Hello, hygiene!

BEST WESTERN Casino Royale - 3411 Las Vegas Boulevard South, Strip, Las Vegas Good hotel at a reasonable price. No breakfast, but Denny’s is next door. Quiet hotel despite the casino. Friendly staff. No memory of seeing any pets!

Shilo Inn Mammoth Lake. 2963 Main Street, Mammoth Lake Disastrous! Ineffective security system. Fire doors propped open with wooden wedges. Tiny breakfast room. No staff in the room. Tables not cleaned. Minimal breakfast. Gross pool. Rooms need work. No, the whole hotel needs to be redone. They say they’re renovating. They’d be better off tearing it down. Too many pets that should be "not allowed." Hello, hygiene! Very bad memory. Apparently, there’s supposed to be staff in this hotel.

Quality Inn Yosemite Valley Gateway. 4994 Bullion Street, Mariposa, CA 95338 Hotel or motel? Booking should clean up its listings! No room refresh! Minimal breakfast. The staff is there. Nothing more.

Comfort Inn by the Bay. 775 Van Ness Avenue, Marina District, San Francisco No room refresh in four days! Minimal breakfast. Friendly and helpful staff. Well-located. Depends on what for, but well-located.

And then there are those who steal apples from the breakfast to put in their bags in the morning, those who fill up their famous US water bottles with orange juice from the breakfast pump, those who don’t clear their tables—I could go on. And also, those who don’t say hello or respond to a greeting!

Met some super nice French people (in the northern parks)! They’ll recognize themselves!

And the magic phrase that opens doors with Americans: "Do you speak French? OK, good!" Laughter guaranteed!

Don’t try that with Asians who run souvenir shops in big cities—they have no sense of humor unless it’s about the color of the green bill.

The park rangers are always available! Great!

And 5,000 photos to sort and organize, plus a few hours of dashcam videos!

See you soon.

Until the next update...
From Bangkok to Krabi, Thailand by Car!
by Attila · 2025-04-15 · 317 replies
This first trip of 2025 will have the taste of Asia.

More precisely, Thailand!

It’s not my first time—I’ve often traveled across Southeast Asia between 2000 and 2015. (This travel journal, for example...)

But it’ll be my partner’s first steps in this part of the world.

The itinerary we’ve chosen will alternate between familiar sights for me and new discoveries for both of us.

I’ll get to see how the country has changed in 20 years—and what’s stayed the same!

We were torn between the north and the south of the kingdom. Fears of smoke from slash-and-burn farming and a desire to relax on the sand tipped the scales toward the south...

What if we rented a car?

I think driving in sprawling Bangkok would be a bit ambitious, so we’ll only book our vehicle from Hua Hin to return it in Surat Thani.

Other transportation will range from tuk-tuks to overnight trains and ride-hailing services.

And of course, the plane!

I’d love to travel from Auvergne to Bangkok by road, but 15 days wouldn’t be enough...

Plus, the current geopolitical situation isn’t exactly favorable...

So, once again, we’ll be stuck for hours in the less-than-comfortable economy class of Qatar Airways.

The arrival time was on schedule, entry formalities were quick, and all our luggage made it.

We left Lyon in wind and cold—now we’re breathing in the warm, humid air of กรุงเทพมหานคร.

To reach our hotel, we first took the metro, which dropped us off in the city center in about 30 minutes for the incredible price of 1.18 €.

A few taps on the GRAB app, and we booked a ride-hailing service for the last few kilometers.

We waited a while for our driver due to insane traffic in the area, but once in the 4x4, we were at our lodging in no time.

We chose this small hotel for its riverside location, tranquility, and price.

It’ll do the job perfectly—the only downside is the weak breakfast.

The room is inviting, and we collapse onto the bed for a well-deserved short nap.

Wake-up call in an hour for our first visits!

See you soon...

So where are they and what are they doing?
by Jojoone1 · 2025-01-31 · 648 replies
This catchy and somewhat mysterious title comes from several questions I’ve been asking myself.

VF has been back open for a reasonable number of weeks and months now. The number of visitors overall matches past averages, but the number of members online in the last 24 hours seems relatively lower than what we used to see.

Yet, to my surprise, I’m seeing fewer travel journals, way fewer messages, and way fewer questions. I don’t see many new registered users online, and I notice a number of members who are logged in but either aren’t participating or have stopped participating.

Something’s not adding up for me because, in my opinion, VF is still appealing, and I don’t see which other sites could really compete.

Was there a real break between pre- and post-Covid? Does it just take more time for some people to discover the site or learn that it’s active again? Do people now prefer quick consumption on sites like FB or others I’m not familiar with? Where have the site’s old-timers gone, and what are they doing with their time now? What’s really going on here?
The rule of the three unities
by Pondy · 2025-01-12 · 38 replies
"In one place, in one day, a single deed accomplished, May hold the theater filled until the end."

- Sunday morning, a chilly dawn - The kitchen - Smell of coffee and toast, a jar of honey on the table.

- Tits pecking at sunflower seeds in the transparent feeder stuck to the window.

- France Musique on the radio: Brahms, violin concerto by the lovely Hilary Hahn - Characters: - An old man in a plush dark blue dressing gown - An old woman in a worn-out duck-blue dressing gown. They dance cheek to cheek, the woman’s head resting on the old man’s broad chest. The old man breathes in the tangled hair of the lady. She smiles. Happy. Tomorrow, they’re off on a trip.
A long journey around Australia
by Jlcro · 2024-12-09 · 85 replies
Sunday, October 1st, 2023 Mulhouse-London We dumped our trash on our neighbors. We hugged, overflowing with emotion. Then Léa from Taxis S showed up. She knows us well. For ages, she’s been our driver. She was practically the official taxiwoman for the trips of the company where Dom and I met. She knew us when we were single! Almost teenagers! She knows everyone and fills in the biographies of people we’d forgotten. Across the street, while we loaded the luggage, S., perched in his window frame, waved a handkerchief. This wasn’t just any trip. Then things got tricky. It’s funny how fate sinks its teeth into our happy moments—there’s this whole intermediate phase where the poison seeps in unnoticed because you’re still in the dark... First, there was a delay on our flight to London. Dom immediately went on high alert, while I stayed calm. In my mind, we had two hours. I knew we had to go from Terminal 5 to Terminal 4, but two hours—come on, that’s plenty, right?

Bad calculation! Because those two hours were between the first flight’s landing and the second’s takeoff. But flights close at least half an hour before departure. Getting from one terminal to another means taking a shuttle bus. We waited for the one going to Terminal 4... until a young guy paid to direct people (who hadn’t seen us) informed us it was no longer possible to access Terminal 4 without going through Terminal 2 first for a connection! That really cranked up the pressure. We started installing a mental countdown with a programmed explosion at the end—guaranteed stress with added beads of sweat. The terminal bus was driven by a young Pakistani guy. We were *so* tense we bombarded him with our frantic, repetitive questions. “So? When are we getting there? What’s happening? Why aren’t we moving?” Our eyes were glued to our watches. The poor guy knew. Perfectly. Because it was obvious—no way around it. We weren’t going to make it. It was impossible. But Dom and I stubbornly refused to believe it. Then the kid stopped the bus. Me, hysterical: “What are you doing? What’s going on? Our plane takes off in... in... 4 minutes!!!! We’re gonna miss iiiiiit!” He wasn’t calm either. “You’ve already missed it!” He explained we had to cross a zone that required an escort car to clear a path through the runways. Impossible to do without. It’s forbidden. We had to WAIT (!!!). Then he got a radio call—he had to rush to Terminal 3 to pick up a passenger who was *super* tight on time. “Amir!!!! It’s RIGHT NOW!” they yelled in his already-red ears, thanks to the complaints of two hysterical Frenchies. Dom and I were in overdrive, hallucinating! We wanted to stop him, maybe even hit him to prevent him from turning around. He picked up the girl, whom we instantly hated like the most despicable witch. I turned on my data, searched for Malaysia Airlines’ number at Terminal 4, called, and actually got someone—quite a feat. A woman cut off my frantic rambling with a blunt “It’s over, the check-in is closed, the plane is about to take off.” I heard her but refused to accept it. I yelled, “We’re coming!” She shot back her monolithic “It’s over.” Finally at the doors of that damn Terminal 4, we ran—*really* ran—a marathon, Gate 6, security checks, pat-downs, “Take off your belts,” we asked questions, everyone seemed confident, we ran with one hand holding up our pants, the other clutching our belt, Gate 6—the room was empty. A girl was sitting there, calmly on the phone. We pounced on her. She calmed us down. Little by little, the light came back. Our brains rebooted. We finally understood it was over. We’d have to start crafting a new plan with the new reality. It started with a return to Terminal 5 to talk to British Airways, which took a good hour. With the same driver as before. We were alone with him. He took the time to apologize, to assure us it wasn’t his fault, that our problem had no solution, that nothing could’ve changed the outcome. At BA, we were exhausted. We were greeted by a handsome young man in a navy-blue uniform with gold stripes everywhere. We could’ve made a scene, but we were just relieved to find someone who’d take charge of our story. It was a minimal response, but it was *a* response. I suppose we could’ve demanded a business-class upgrade or a free trip, but we were just happy with a few vouchers for food, a hotel room with breakfast, and a little bag with plastic toys, a razor, toothbrush, hygiene products, and a T-shirt... Trinkets... But we were fine with it all—we said thank you eagerly because the essential was assured. He found us seats on flights tomorrow. *Tomorrow.* We were afraid to hope! We had the exact same flights but a day later. The same crappy times, but it was all good. We felt saved from the shipwreck, like survivors. - And what about the luggage? - .... !!!!

Monday, October 2nd, 2023 London - Kuala Lumpur

It wasn’t the Ritz, but with exhaustion on our side, we slept well. The continental breakfast was way better than we’d expected from an Ibis Budget. Still, it wasn’t enough to restore my joy for life. The course correction had turned into an arduous obstacle course. I scoured the car rental site every which way. Couldn’t reschedule the car. I’d done it before, but this time... Not to mention the laptop battery was complaining—the Brits have this quirk of making their power outlets incompatible with our chargers. Frustrated, I called them but ended up with a girl who declared herself incompetent and offered to have someone from Avis in Perth call me back—someone who’d supposedly handle rentals better. I decided to wait while taking a bath. Barely settled in, the phone rang. I was soaking wet, of course, and asked Dom to answer. Unfortunately, she’s known for disliking my phone, and in a clumsy move, she hung up. We got annoyed. She put dry towels on the edge of the bathtub, but—another false move—they fell in the water. The phone rang again... I completely redid the plans for the next two days, then transferred the files to my phone to consult them later offline. I plugged in my USB cable... *Plop!* The battery died abruptly—my PC shut down without any of the usual polite warnings! I looked around, hoping to find someone to strangle... Long story short, you can tell the day started under the worst omens. I was in a foul mood and spread my bad vibes to Dominique, who was initially in much better spirits... I called Mastercard, hoping to get a refund for the non-refundable night in Perth we’d already paid for. Same old song: “We’ll call you back”... Then... I’ll cut it short—buses, trains, lots of waiting... We rushed to reach the infamous Terminal 4.



We tried new options and convinced ourselves that a delayed departure flight is unrecoverable, no matter the scenario. We were furious that BA hadn’t bothered to tell us, leaving us to run around like rats in a burning house.

Tuesday, October 3rd, 2023 Kuala Lumpur-Perth

The flight was pretty nice. 13 hours, though. Dom and I were facing each other across the aisle. We could get up easily whenever we wanted without bothering anyone and chat when we felt like it. Besides, their chicken was amazing. They were kind enough to offer Dom a truly remarkable glass of rum. Good movies too, including the excellent *Prisoners* by Denis Villeneuve. At KL, during boarding, we developed a nagging worry about our luggage. We checked with some Malaysian Airlines staff. I sensed their hesitation. They made calls. Then changed their minds, giving us smiles and thumbs up...

Wednesday, October 4th, 2023 Perth

*Happy is the man who, like Ulysses, has had a fine voyage.* Well, for us, it wasn’t that. Finally arrived, we experienced the loneliness of tourists watching the baggage carousel spin, emptying of its precious containers one by one, until only a handful of travelers were left, staring at each other in disbelief. Without luggage, you’re kinda screwed. Not even a change of socks—our feet had been swimming in the same shoes for 3 days. No adapter, so no laptop. No toiletries. We could’ve cried! The lost luggage guy played his part. If you want compensation, fill out the disclaimer on the website made for that. And then, “Don’t worry, your luggage will arrive tomorrow!” “Don’t worry?!” From the start of the trip, we’ve been jerked around, fed lies. Tomorrow is the *absolute* last chance to get them back. Beyond that, we’d have to scramble a whole new trip. And lose a lot in the process! I have no idea how to go about it. Tomorrow... OMG... Tomorrow... We landed at 1 AM. Avis, the car rental place, opens at 6:30. Luckily, we found some decent breakfast. It cheered us up and gave us a second wind. Incorrigible, we started believing again! Well, then we just killed time. What else was there to do?



In front of Avis’s little shack, we were freezing. We’d been there since dawn. The girl who showed up, a Latina, immediately saw us as a nuisance who’d ruin her hopes of a peaceful start. Her face and tone were as unwelcoming as possible. You know us—it ended with hugs. She gave us a gorgeous, brand-new car! A hybrid with ultra-sophisticated features, all buttons you shouldn’t touch if you want to drive this thing without causing irreparable damage! We’re off! Driving on the left is easy at first. You think about it constantly. It’s counterintuitive, it takes effort. It’s later, when you get used to it and confidence sets in, that it becomes dangerous—old reflexes can send you into a wall. Anyway, the car and I immediately clicked.

In Perth, underground parking next to the hotel, friendly welcome—we ended up forgetting all the morning’s mishaps. Should we go sightseeing?

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Review of a Mediterranean cruise on the Splendida and 24 hours in Venice – October 2024
by 4yne · 2024-11-21 · 121 replies
Hi everyone,

What a joy to be back here and pick up where we left off after all these months of hiatus.

I hope you’ll enjoy the story of this little trip around the Eastern Mediterranean. This cruise was the perfect way to satisfy our longing to return to Greece and Istanbul. The end of the season, until late November, is the best time to visit the Mediterranean in my opinion—when climate disruptions don’t get in the way.

Departing from Trieste, our stops were Katakolon, Piraeus, Kusadasi, Istanbul, Corfu, and Bari, before returning to Trieste and then Venice, where we planned a very short 24-hour stay.

We left home at 6:15 AM—our first cruise departure since moving to Normandy. What I miss most about living in the Gard is how close we were to Marseille Airport. No more hopping over to Marignane in an hour; now we have to plan for a three-hour trip to CDG, even under the best conditions on an early Sunday morning.

It was impossible to book a hotel night before our flight because, starting in April, the Ibis was priced at 450 € per night, and the Mercure was flirting with 800 €—breakfast not included, of course. 😏

I had a feeling there must’ve been a conference or something going on… Turns out, it was just the auto show. They simply adjusted the room prices to match the cost of the cars. 😛

Our flight took us to Venice, where we caught a FlixBus to Trieste. We arrived at Trieste’s train station in the afternoon and walked to our hotel in the city center.

After treating ourselves to an amazing pizza at a restaurant (Di Napoli Maestri Pizzaioli, Via Armando Diaz 10) for a very reasonable price, we enjoyed the mild evening temperature while exploring the stunning buildings of this charming city by night. These magnificent structures are a testament to the city’s past. Trieste became Austrian in 1382 due to its complicated relationship with Venice, and it wasn’t until 1918, at the end of World War I, that it became Italian again. The city’s lighting beautifully highlights the architecture of the buildings.

The terraces were lively, and the atmosphere was so warm and inviting that we wanted to stay out even longer.



But we’d been up since 4 AM, so we were happy to retreat to the quiet of our hotel, located in the pedestrian center just a few steps from the port (Urban Hotel Design—highly recommended).

More to come soon.
Southwest! 8 weeks with the family, Denver-to-Denver loop, 1st part...
by Scot2021 · 2024-10-26 · 84 replies
Hey there, VoyageForum!!!

I’ve combed through this site up, down, and sideways to plan our two-month road trip across the American Southwest during the summer of 2022, so it only feels right to give back and revive the USA travel journal section—helping others prep, travel, or relive their own memories! 😏

A quick intro to the stars of this trip is coming soon... in an upcoming post!

Table of Contents:

Road trip introduction Day 1 & 2: the days we double-checked all our papers... Day 3 & 3 bis: The day we discovered Denver... Day 4: The day of the race, the carriage, and the little one’s cough... Day 5: the day the road trip truly began... Day 6 & 6 bis: the day of Nature’s first wonders... Day 7: the day the sky fell on our heads... Day 8 & 8 bis: the day we saw ghosts... Day 9: the day we climbed the mountain... Day 10: the day the theme song from "The Last Picture Show" played on loop in my head... Day 11: the day we lived like Native Americans... Day 12: the day we left civilization behind... Day 13 & 13 bis: the day we explored another planet... Day 14 & 14 bis: the day Caro reunited with HER rocks... Day 15 & 15 bis: the day of the fantastic ride... Day 16: the day we cooled off in Lake Powell... Day 17: the day the Colorado River’s meanders were all ours... Day 18: the day we dipped our feet in the Colorado... Day 19: the day the guys discovered true vastness... Day 20 & 20 bis: the day we covered a few acres of Route 66 before sunset... Day 21: the day the credit card said stop... right before the STRIP... Day 22: the day we finally discovered Cirque du Soleil... Day 23: the day we returned to calm... well, almost... Day 24: the day we reached our home base for 6 nights: Saint George Day 25: the day we should’ve explored Yant Flat... Day 26: the day it was 13°C at Cedar Breaks... Day 27: the day we explored The Narrows in Zion NP... Day 28: the day we discovered Snow Canyon... Day 29: the day we hiked to the "SUBWAY"... Day 30: the day we encountered the abyss—from the north this time... Day 31: the day we arrived in a place where dreams begin... Kanab... Day 32: the day we discovered the first treasures along House Rock Valley... 2nd part: the second part of the journey... Day 33: the day we discovered a magical place... Edmaier's Secret... Day 34: the day Cottonwood Road didn’t open up to us... Day 35: the day of the classic Queen’s Garden + Navajo Loop—and another event that became a classic... Day 36: the second day in Bryce... pure bliss!!! Day 37: the day we swam at the foot of Calf Creek Falls... Day 38: the day we took the Burr Trail, even with storms lurking... Day 39: The day of the goblins... Day 40: the day we enjoyed the peaceful Capitol Reef NP... Day 41: the day of the Rim Overlook and another letdown... Day 42: the day we arrived in... Moab... Day 43: the first day in Arches National Park... Day 44: the day of the Fisher Towers... Day 45: the day of Bow Tie & Corona Arches... Day 46: The day of Shafer Trail + Potash Road... Day 47: The second day in Arches NP... Day 48: the day we discovered Colorado NM in a flash... Day 49: the day of Black Canyon... Day 50: the day we passed through Durango before falling for Silverton... Day 51: the day we went through Ouray and ended up in Gunnison... Day 52: the day of Kebler Pass and arriving at the hot springs... Day 53: the day of hot springs II, then the road back to Denver... Day 54: the last day... Day 55: back home and the RECAP...
From Costa Rica to Suriname, a travel report
by Djackx67 · 2024-10-13 · 13 replies
Hi everyone, I’m restarting my travel reports with my 2023 trip that took me from Costa Rica to Suriname over a month and a half.

First stop: Costa Rica. I arrived in late September in San José, a city I know well and never linger in. As soon as I got off the early-morning flight, I headed to the domestic airport—just a 5-minute walk away—to catch a 45-minute flight to Puerto Limón on the Caribbean coast. The 40-minute flight in a small Cessna was fun, especially since we landed on a tiny airstrip right by the sea—it felt like landing on the beach, which immediately set the mood. Plus, I wasn’t keen on enduring the 4–5-hour bus ride to Cahuita, especially since large sections of the road were under renovation. In Cahuita (where I’ve been going every year since 2015), I stayed at Kenaki Lodge on Playa Grande. It’s a great lodge, about a 45-minute walk from Cahuita’s center, but you’re just 50 meters from the beach and usually have it all to yourself. The lodge is run by Béa, a Frenchwoman, and depending on the season, you can help release baby turtles on the beach. The room was 55 €, very spacious, and you can use the outdoor kitchen. I’d recommend it for anyone looking for peace and quiet and a private beach.

After 5 days there, I flew to Cartagena but didn’t stay overnight. Instead, I headed straight to Rincón del Mar, a 3-hour bus ride from CTG. I’d mostly heard about it from a friend who lives there and runs El Ché, a beachfront restaurant. Rincón del Mar is a tiny seaside village, very peaceful, with a pretty nice beach. There are lots of small hotels and restaurants, and it’s a spot that’s likely to grow quickly in the coming years. Note: there’s no ATM there, so you’ll need to withdraw cash in San Onofre, about 30 minutes away by moto-taxi. The round trip costs around 25,000 COP. That’s also where you catch the bus to Cartagena. For accommodations, rooms were roughly 70,000–90,000 COP, with a so-so value for the price. As for things to do, I’d recommend the tour that takes you to watch the sunset in front of Bird Island, followed by a swim in a lagoon with bioluminescent plankton. The excursion (if I remember correctly) cost around 90,000 COP.

After a week in Rincón del Mar, I headed back to Cartagena and decided to fly to Yopal to visit the Río Meta. In Yopal, you’ll need to go to the bus terminal (10 minutes by taxi from the airport). From there, I took a bus to Orocué (50,000 COP) for about a 4-hour trip—it felt endless because the road was in terrible condition. Orocué is a tiny town on the banks of the Río Meta, but it has all the essentials (hotels, restaurants, ATMs). It’s lovely to stroll along the river at sunset. There are a few small bars, the area is very natural, the sunsets are stunning, and when there are distant storms, it’s just breathtaking. For lodging, I stayed at Hotel Brisas de San Miguel. It wasn’t bad—fan-cooled room for 70,000 COP. There were quite a few mosquitoes. I spent 3 days in Orocué. If you want to swim, head to the bridge (the only one), Cano San Miguel, and on the right, there’s a swimming spot. With the heat, it’s a great way to cool off.

From Orocué, I took a fast *lancha* (boat) up the Río Meta to Puerto Carreño, in the Vichada department at the far end of Colombia. This brings you to the majestic Orinoco River, right across from Venezuela. The boat ride is long—10 hours—and costs about 60 €. We left around 6 AM, with a few stops for bathroom breaks and meals along the way. But you *must* book your spot 1–2 days in advance. To do that, go to the small square above the dock—there’s a "navigation office" there. The trip was long but enjoyable. I never get tired of river journeys.

I was happy to finally arrive in Puerto Carreño, a small border town with Venezuela. No surprise that half the population was Venezuelan. In Puerto Carreño, I stayed at Hotel Delfines del Orinoco. The room was 80,000 COP, decent, with A/C, and the best part was the pool. I spent 2 nights there. One thing you *must* do—morning and evening—is hike to the top of Cerro de la Bandera (the *cerros* are huge rock formations typical of the Orinoco region, and there are many in the area). From the summit, you get amazing 360° views of the savanna and jungle. Sunrise is especially incredible. The trail is well-marked—from downtown Puerto Carreño, it takes about 20 minutes.

Next, I spent 3 nights at Rancho Barú. About an hour by boat from Puerto Carreño, you get off at Casuarito, and someone from the lodge picks you up by motorcycle for a 30-minute ride. The ranch is in the middle of the savanna, with a river/rapids beach just a 5-minute walk away. You can also fish—bites come quickly. For the lodge, one night (room or hammock) with shared bathrooms, three meals included, one excursion, plus the round-trip motorcycle ride costs 245,000 COP. An extra night without an excursion is around 100,000 COP, but you need to let the lodge know in advance so they can prepare enough food—there’s absolutely nothing for miles around.

After those 3 great days at the ranch, I took a canoe to cross into Venezuela, since Casuarito is right across from Puerto Ayacucho. The crossing costs 10,000 COP, but I got shaken down by Venezuelan immigration, who invented a violation and made me pay $40 USD. Puerto Ayacucho didn’t inspire me much. The city felt sketchy, with many hotels closed. Dealing with currency exchange was the hardest part—you *must* bring cash (USD or Colombian pesos), know the exchange rate, and find someone with enough money to exchange with you. It took me at least 2 hours. I stayed in a decent hotel downtown for $20 USD a night, but I’ll admit that going out at night—even in Puerto Ayacucho—felt pretty dodgy. All the buildings have bars on the windows, and there weren’t many people outside. I didn’t linger and found my plans to continue south too complicated. The next day, I took a bus across the country to the Brazilian border at Santa Elena de Uairén. The trip took a day and a night, with countless military checkpoints where they made everyone get off, unload all the luggage, etc. Not exactly a fun ride.

Photos: - 2 sunrises near the Orocué dock - Storm over the savanna at Rancho Barú - View of the savanna and Orinoco near Casuarito - Photo taken during the Río Meta boat trip
Procédures pour voyager en Italie English translation pending
by Mariepaule73 · 2020-08-13 · 25 replies
Bonjour,

Nous partons en septembre en Sicile par la route. L'Italie impose un document papier pour rentrer sur son territoire eu égard au Covid Mais ce n'est pas tout, les régions imposent également des procédures. C'est le cas de la Calabre, des Pouilles, de la Sardaigne et de la Sicile. Aussi j'ai regroupé ces procédures:

1 - Il faut (il est préférable pour pouvoir être contacter en cas d'urgence) s'inscrire sur le site du ministère des affaires étrangères français :
https://pastel.diplomatie.gouv.fr/fildariane/dyn/public/inscription/initEditionMesDonneesAuthentificationAjout.html;jsessionid=E13F541B3872A4DDB8E7C5B199BD32FD.jvm01944-2?action=Ajout

2 – Lire les information du site : https://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/fr/conseils-aux-voyageurs/conseils-par-pays-destination/italie/

3 – Remplir pour chaque personne la « DÉCLARATION SUR L’HONNEUR JUSTIFICATIVE DE DÉPLACEMENT EN CAS D’ENTRÉE EN ITALIE EN PROVENANCE DE L’ÉTRANGER » de l'état italien (voir www.esteri.it/mae/resource/doc/2020/08/modulo_rientro_da_estero_6_agosto_fr.pdf )

4 – Télécharger sur son téléphone portable l'application « sicilia sicura » à partir du Play Store, qu'il faudra renseigner avant de rentrer en Sicile

5 – Remplir le formulaire (un par famille) pour les Pouilles : https://limesurvey.istsvc.regione.puglia.it/index.php/119341?lang=it

6 – Pour la région de la Calabre il faut s'enregistrer (nom et mot de passe) et remplir la déclaration informatique https://www.rcovid19.it/censimento-spostamenti-2/

Apparemment tout ne fonctionne pas parfaitement et nous partirons avec des aléas. A+

Marie Paule
Carbone or not carbone? (à vélo) English translation pending
by Thelo5 · 2020-08-11 · 31 replies
salut à tous,

Ma façon de voyager à vélo évolue. En vieillissant ... Je m'allège. J'ai considérablement réduit le poids de ce que je transporte, je reste maintenant en dessous de 15kg sacoches comprises. Reste le vélo. Je suis confortablement assis sur un tour de fer dont j'ai changé les plateaux qui ne me semblaient pas adaptés à la pratique. J'en suis content , mais il pèse quand même 14,5 kg. J'observe la mode du bikepacking avec des vélos gravel carbone à 8/9 kg . Et je sens la tentation d'augmenter ma collection de vélo ;-). L'autre jour j'ai essayé un vélo carbone route canyon (endurace cf sl) . Agréablement surpris par la nervosité, le poids, ca monte "tout seul" cette histoire (je suis dans les alpes). Mais très désagréablement surpris par le confort. Après un petit col rapidement monté j'avais mal au dos. On sent le moindre gravier, bref je me vois pas rester la-dessus pendant des heures. Certes la géométrie du truc n'est pas celle d'un gravel. Qu'en pensez vous ? Quelle est vôtre expérience ? Quel est le retour de ceux qui font du bikepacking sur des gravels carbone ? L'alu c'est mieux ? Je me sens un peu perplexe, j'attends vos avis et conseils ? Ma pratique c'est de faire des ballades de quelques jours à plus d'un mois, petites routes , pistes voir chemin propres. Je reste en Europe. Bien cordialement à tous, merci de vos réponses
La SNCF aime-t-elle le vélo? English translation pending
by Parigino · 2020-06-17 · 200 replies
Bonjour à tous

Cyclo de fraîche date, j'ai pour ambition d'amener mon vélo de Paris à Nice fin août et de démarrer mon voyage là-bas. Je pensais qu'il serait assez simple de trouver une place dans un train (quitte à payer un supplément). Comme j'étais naïf !! Je découvre qu'il n'y a absolument rien. L'alternative serait de démonter mon vélo et de le mettre dans une housse, sauf que la SNCF ne prête pas de housse. Or, sachant que je repartirai de Nice à vélo, je n'ai aucune intention de me trimballer une housse.

Bref, quelle solution voyez-vous ? Enchaîner les TER et mettre 2 jours pour aller de Paris à Nice ? Prendre l'avion, et tant pis pour la planète ?

Je suis à l'écoute de vos idées, mais vraiment je tombe de haut.

Merci !
Retour d'expérience du Spot Gen3 pour voyage à vélo longue distance English translation pending
by Etchelecou · 2020-05-13 · 6 replies
Bonjour, Serait-il possible d'avoir quelques retours d'expérience du tracker Spot Gen3 notamment après utilisation dans des zones encaissées ? Les envois automatiques de points gps sont-ils traduits correctement (automatiquement ?) dans une cartographie comme google maps ? Les piles lithium peuvent-elles permettre une utilisation 8 heures par jour durant 5-6 jours avec envois de points gps toutes les 30 minutes ? Pour une utilisation durant un mois, le système de location est-il plus avantageux avec les frais d'activation et d'abonnement annuel (?) que l'achat puis revente après utilisation ? Y a-t-il d'autres trackers plus adaptés aux voyages vélo longue distance ? Merci de votre bilan d'utilisation.
Déréclusion! English translation pending
by Pondy · 2020-05-11 · 396 replies
Déréclusion !

Je ne suis pas à un néologisme près.

Parce que j’me demande : Suis-je libre ? En liberté surveillée ? Contrainte ? Coercition sanitaire et salubrité publique... J’crois que secouer les peurs est mille fois plus efficace qu’un bracelet électronique. Voir le monde entier en pause, je ne pensais pas le vivre. Je comprends aujourd’hui avec quelle rapidité pourrait s’installer une dictature.

J’me demande pourquoi je ne ressens aucune crainte, pourquoi je me sens à mille lieux des peurs dont j’entends parler. Suis-je normale ? Suis-je inconsciente ? J’ai vu des gens avec un masque en voiture, mettre des gants pour tenir un chariot de magasin, où s’arrête le bon sens ? C’est quand même horripilant de se sentir infantilisé. Quand j’entends toutes ces sommités parler, j’ai l’impression qu’elles s’adressent à une population de mômes.

Parait que certains sont porteurs sains et transmettent le virus, paraît que certains ont eu la maladie sans s’en apercevoir et ont des anticorps, paraît que certains ont été malades et ont développé des anticorps, paraît que certains n’ont jamais été en contact et ne seront jamais malades, paraît qu’il faut qu’il y ait 60 % au moins de gens avec des anticorps pour l’immunité collective. Ca s’appelle RO lala.

Et beaucoup sont morts et au regard de l’humanité sur nos plus de 7 milliards, c’est une goutte. Une goutte d’acide et de chagrin pour les familles et amis des décédés, c’est certain. Des cataractes de panique pour des millions d’autres qui tremblent d’entendre un reniflement ou un éternuement. J’me demande aussi combien sont morts de faim et de maladie dans le même temps et aussi combien vont mourir des dégâts induits par le monde à l’arrêt.

Combien de pandémies ont-elles eu lieu sans que le monde occidental ne bouge un cil ? Un virus à la volette et qui disparaîtra comme tous les virus avant qu’un autre ne prenne le relais. C’est ainsi depuis toujours.

Ma solution : je respecte les peurs et angoisses des autres. Je respecte les consignes assenées à longueur de temps. Mais dans l’absolu, au fond de ma p’tite tête, j’pense tout autre chose et me tiens coite.
Attendre début juin pour acheter son billet d'avion? English translation pending
by Patrick91230 · 2020-05-08 · 34 replies
Bjr,

En l'état actuel des choses il est préférable d'attendre début juin pour acheter son billet. Le gouvernement doit faire des annonces pour les vacances d'été, les 3 semaines de dé confinement jusqu’à début juin sera un test grandeur nature pour voir si on peut supprimé les 100KM de son domicile et partir en vacances en France tout d'abord, en Europe ensuite sous conditions que ces pays ouvrent leurs frontières. Pour les voyages au delà de l'Europe c'est trop aléatoire, fermeture ou ouverture des frontières de ces pays, quarantaine à l'arrivée ou pas, voir quarantaine au retour, ça veut dire 1 mois en tout si cela est le cas. Je pense qu'il est préférable d'attendre le plus tard possible (15 jours avant le départ) pour acheter son billet pour ne pas rentrer dans des galères de remboursements ou bon à valoir, et d'y voir plus clair quand à l'ouverture des frontières Si durant les 3 semaines du 11 mai au 31 mai le dé confinement se passe mal (remonter en flèche des cas covid en réanimation) la messe sera dite pour cet été au moins.😕

Ne pas oublier qu'il faudra sortir couvert (masque)😄 pour l'aéroport et vol, règle qui sera de mise pour les prochains voyages en avion.
A quand l'ouverture des frontières dans l'espace Schengen? (à vélo) English translation pending
by Pluton2070 · 2020-04-23 · 378 replies
Hello,

C'est un peu la question qu'on se pose et qui nous oblige à revoir nos plans, pour l'instant c'est très flou, visiblement ce ne serait pas avant Septembre voir même pas envisageable cette année, mais si vous avez des infos de ce côté là n'hésitez pas à les partager.

Gilles
Un voyage... une étape inattendue! English translation pending
by Evajules · 2020-04-16 · 214 replies
Bonjour à tous,

Le voyage - pour ne pas trop sortir de VF - c'est bien sur la vie. L'étape inattendue, elle nous vient de l'orient et sans doute d' un Pangolin.

J'ai 72 ans, un peu d’hypertension, pas grand chose d'autre, alors, au delà du 11 mai je suis bon !

Bon pour continuer à voir mes petits enfants sur Skype, bon pour voir mes enfants masqués qui viennent nous voir de temps à autres à distance respectable, bon pour oublier les embrassades, les câlins, les gestes de tendresse, bon pour....un temps indéterminé à subir ces frustrations que portant je respecterait. Peu en parlent dans les médias, mais c'est une contrainte autre que de simplement porter un masque !!

Merci de m'avoir lu et belle journée confinée
Escapade japonaise à Shikoku, Kyushu, Yakushima et Tokyo English translation pending
by Nathalie971 · 2020-04-08 · 145 replies
Bonjour à tous,

Ici, vous trouverez la suite de notre périple au début de l'automne au Japon, qui aura duré 5 semaines et demi en tout, de fin septembre 2019 à début novembre 2019.

La suite, eh oui, car il y a un premier carnet intituléA la découverte du Japon : de Tokyo à l’archipel des Ryukyu (okinawa). Pour ceux que cela intéresserait, je vous mets les liens : Dans cette première partie, se trouve le récit de notre voyage à :

Tokyo (1ére partie), Kyoto et à Miyakojima (okinawa).

J’avais entamé l’écriture de la seconde partie du voyage mais visiblement voyageforum a supprimé ce deuxième carnet portant le même titre + Partie 2 et je ne le découvre que maintenant car je n’avais pas écrit depuis quelques temps. Qu’à cela ne tienne, je redémarre un second carnet avec un nouveau titre afin de partager la suite de notre voyage.

Dans cette deuxième partie, vous trouverez les lieux suivants :

A Shikoku: Takamatsu, Kotohira, La vallée de l’Iya, , Tokushima et Naruto, L’île de Yakushima, A Kyushu : Kagoshima, Chiran, Ibusuki, Takachiho, et Kumamoto, Et pour finir Tokyo (2éme partie). et "la conclusion"
On part en vadrouille dans l'ouest américain! Oui, encore... English translation pending
by Bibouns51 · 2020-03-17 · 508 replies
En ces temps difficiles qui nous obligent à trouver des occupations, je vous soumets ici un carnet que j'avais rédigé il y a quelques années et que je n'ai jamais publié ici... Bonne lecture (pour ceux que ça intéresse...)...

24 juillet - Itinéraire d’une famille gâtée

Envie de t’évader ? Envie de rêver ? Envie de t’amuser ? Oui ? Alors tu as frappé à la bonne adresse... Plus précisément à l’adresse de celui qui a attrapé un virus… En l’occurrence, moi… Et ce virus, pas question de m’en débarrasser en me bourrant d’antibiotiques. Non seulement, les antibiotiques, ce n’est pas automatique, mais ce virus-là, j’en prends grand soin. Je l’entretiens, même… Ce virus, c’est l’étasunite ! Je l’ai contracté le jour où j’ai posé mes arpions chez l’oncle Sam pour la première fois, il y a une décennie de cela. Tout ça ne me rajeunit pas mais depuis ce fameux jour, lui et moi, nous ne nous sommes plus jamais quittés. Un proverbe dit à ce sujet que si tu vas aux Etats-Unis une fois, tu y reviendras un jour… Ben moi, depuis, j’y suis même retourné deux autres fois ! Et figure-toi que si tu lis ces quelques lignes, c’est que je m’apprête à y retourner pour une quatrième vadrouille !... Pour cette fois-ci, je vais accomplir un de mes rêves ! Me faire la route 66 sur mon Harley avec une belle brune accrochée à ma taille... Manque de bol, ma femme est blonde, je n'ai pas le permis moto et nous avons deux louloutes de quatre et sept ans… Va donc falloir que je revoie mes plans...

Bon, si tu es un lecteur assidu de nos précédentes vadrouilles, nous n’avons plus de secret pour toi, si bien que tu sais déjà que nous sommes quatre, juste un an de plus par rapport à la dernière fois… Il y a bien évidemment Sandrine, ma femme alias le portefeuille ; Sasha, notre petite globetrotteuse de quatre ans ; et Anna notre routarde de sept ans et plus toutes ses dents... Ah, et je m’oubliais ! Moi, Franck, la trentaine bien tassée, alias le conducteur, le tour opérateur, le narrateur, le cuisinier, le… Oui, je sais, moi aussi, j’aimerais bien déléguer… Ah, mais j’oublie encore quelqu’un !… Toi… Mais bon, sauf le respect que je te dois, tu ne seras une nouvelle fois que le spectateur du film que nous allons tourner et interpréter… D’ailleurs, quel en sera le titre ?... Et bien après réflexion, on a le choix entre « Voyage entre geysers et déserts », ou alors « Sous le soleil de Beverly Hills »… Pour ce coup-là, en espérant ne pas les vexer, on décide de poser un lapin à Brandon et Brenda… Car oui, c’est décidé, cette nouvelle édition sera composée d'indiens, de geysers, de trappeurs, de pionniers, de bisons, de chercheurs d'or, de hors-la-loi, de ranchs et de cowboys ! A nous les grands espaces… et les gros hamburgers !!! A nous l’ouest américain et ses films qui donnent tant envie : Délivrance, la colline a des yeux, Shining, The Descent, ...

Mais un voyage comme celui-là, ça se prépare un ‘tiot peu. Premièrement, il faut du blé, du flouze, du fric, du pognon, des pépettes, de la caillasse… Ben oui, ça coûte cher tout ça, donc à moins de faire comme le PSG et te faire subventionner par un investisseur qatari, il va falloir que tu en mettes de côté. Deuxièmement, il faut un minimum de travail de préparation. Et je commencerai mon histoire par un retour dans le passé, un bond dans le temps pour revenir pile poil au moment où Sandrine a enfin craqué sous mes coups de butoir et m’a donné son ô combien précieuse approbation… « Allez, ok, c’est bon, fais-toi plaisir ! » Sans avoir réellement conscience de la portée de ces quelques mots, elle venait de me signer un contrat de travail d’un an ! Car moi, ni une, ni deux, j'ai employé toute une équipe de lutins pour m'aider à préparer mon itinéraire. Lecture de carnets de voyage, questions sur des forums, épluchage de guides, visionnage de films, essorage d’internet, … Au final, je dois dire que je suis plus que satisfait de leur boulot ! Ce qui me permet non pas de faire un bilan puisqu'heureusement, le voyage n'est pas commencé, mais plutôt un petit compte-rendu chiffré de ce qui nous attend. Huit états à traverser ou à effleurer, plus de cinq mille kilomètres à parcourir, vingt jours pleins sur place, deux hôtels, quatorze campings différents, huit heures de décalage... Mes trois blondes vont-elles le supporter ? Optimiste que je suis, je mise sur un grand « Oui » ! D’ailleurs, pour les préparer, j’ai mis en place un programme intensif trois mois avant le départ : Marche autour de notre immense propriété, westerns tous les soirs, Coca et hamburgers à volonté à tous les repas !... Et oui, qui ménage sa monture voyage plus souvent !

Avant de tailler la route, je profite de cette intro pour publier une petite annonce à destination des cambrioleurs amateurs de textes de voyage : passez votre route, ma maison est équipée d’une alarme biométrique avec double varifocale et matrice de commutation. De plus, j’ai loué à un pote du neuf trois son gros pitbull pour l’occasion. Sans compter que pendant nos vacances, ma maison va être occupée par mes parents qui sont tous les deux experts en arts martiaux !... D’ailleurs, pourquoi je te raconte ces bobards alors que tu ne connais même pas mon adresse… C'est le 25, avenue des canaris à Triffouillis-sur-Retourne... Euh, merci de ne pas m’envoyer de carte postale à l'adresse ci-dessus... c'est une fausse !

Bon, chut, ça y est, c’est l’heure de l’évaluation… On va savoir si toute la famille est prête pour le grand départ : « Sandrine, donne-moi les huit états dans lesquels nous allons poser les pieds... - Colorado, Wyoming, Nebraska, Dakota du sud, Montana, Idaho, Utah et... euh... mince, oh, je l’ai sur le bout de la langue… Ah oui, l’Arizona !!!… - Mouais… C’était moins une… Encore un peu et tu n’partais pas avec nous ! Et toi, Anna, cite-moi les quatre présidents sculptés sur le Mont Rushmore ? - Abram Licol, Tomasse Washington, George Jeffessonne et Theodore Rousevelle... - Ok, on va dire que c’est bon… Et toi, Sasha, dans quel pays allons-nous cet été ? - Les Jétajuniiiiis de l’Amérique de Mickey ! » Ok, c’est bon, elles sont fin prêtes ! Attention, départ imminent !
A breath of fresh air!
by Pondy · 2020-03-13 · 126 replies
Vrrrrrm, vrmmmm! (phone on vibrate)

"Hi Mamido, it's Clémence." Clémence, 5 years old, is a giggly, cheerful little girl and the queen of mischief.

"Mom says we're coming to your place until the holidays because we're on vacation tonight."

"Yes, I know. She asked me—do you know why?" "Because of the croronavirus." "And do you know what that is?"

"Oh yeah, at school Théo told me it's like a louse that doesn't itch, that doesn't get in your head but in your lungs, that it's all round with red bumps like raspberries, and that it makes old people die."

"Your friend knows a lot of things."

"His dad showed him a microscope picture, and you—are you old?" "What do you think?" "Well, yeah, but only a little because you always leave on your motorcycle to travel. Are you going traveling?"

"No, because you're coming with your brother and sister."

"Can we go to the little bridge to look for frog eggs? You remember, there were some last year, and we'll make them grow and put the baby frogs in the washhouse, and we'll also make boats to put in the stream so they can go to the sea." "That's a great idea." "And you'll make me the model in print letters so I can write which country my boat is going to." "Where do you want your boat to go?" "To the land of pandas—is it far?" "Oh yes, very far." "Then we have to make the boat strong so it doesn't sink." "Promise, we'll have so much fun." "Mom says in some countries they wear masks. Do you still have the chicken, rabbit, and pig masks in the attic? Can we wear them like that?"

"You know, here there are only trees, birds, and fields—we'll do whatever we want."

"Mom's calling me."

Click, she hangs up, and I laugh.
On the Silk Road: Chronicles of a Sixty-Something Traveling Completely Independently
by Sarana · 2020-03-07 · 73 replies
From Beijing to Khiva: China, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan Chronicle of anecdotes, highlights, and other adventures that marked this eight-week journey in 2018.



The Chinese Far West More than 30 years after my first trip to eastern China, I finally fulfilled an old dream: traveling solo from Beijing to the far west, discovering Xinjiang, the Uyghur people and the oppression they endure, the oases of Turpan and Kashgar, the Taklamakan Desert, the end of the Great Wall... The route was covered by train.

MENU PART 1: CHINA

1- Beijing (Jiankou) : the authentic Great Wall, without tourists 2- Cycling in Beijing, the best way to get around 3- Beijing : departure for the far west 4- Jiayuguan : getting by without English 5- Jiayuguan : scams and heritage 6- Dunhuang : abundance in the middle of the desert 7- Turpan : the Uyghurs under heavy surveillance 8- Kashgar : love at first sight for the old city 9- Kashgar : China’s recipe for controlling the populace 10- Tashkurgan : what on earth was I thinking going there! Kyrgyz border: a surreal epic Photo album from the 80s, contributions from other travelers (page 2)

1- JIANKOU Finding the authentic Great Wall, without tourists or a guide Friday, August 24, 2018 Thirty years later, I didn’t feel like revisiting the Great Wall at Badaling or any other overcrowded site. I chose to explore it at Jiankou, in its wildest, most authentic, and unrestored section, starting from a lost village deep in a valley—though it wasn’t *that* lost, since it had everything for communication.



No need to pay for a taxi to get there—by timing it right, you can take the bus for just a few yuan. You have to get off at Xizhazi, the bus terminus. Be careful, there are only two buses a day in each direction. At the Xizhazi bus stop, I met a young couple who’d arrived with zero information about what to expect. We hiked the three of us toward the restored section of Mutianyu.

Still, be cautious With GPS and a topographic map (OpenTopoMap), you can set off without a problem or guide. The trail up to Jiankou is easy and well-marked. The trails down are too. But be careful—once you’re on the Wall, it’s real mountain hiking, with easy but dangerous climbing sections (over sheer drops). Not for amateurs or those afraid of heights! But what a reward. The Wall all to yourself, where it’s at its most daring. Truly mesmerizing.

More photos...

2- BEIJING The best way to get around the capital Sunday, August 26 The best way to explore the city is still by bike. Most are in a bike-share system, but you need to use an app—WeChat, the app that does everything, like monitoring your every move. No way I was installing that.



I found one at a rental shop near the hostel. The key is to quickly learn local traffic customs to minimize risks. Bike lanes are wide along the avenues.

But you still have to: - Watch out for anything parked on the bike paths—the most annoying are people napping or talking on the phone in their cars - Keep an eye on everything coming the wrong way—the list is long - The worst is right turns on red, which in Chinese traffic rules seem to have priority Once you get the hang of it, it’s fine. The city is huge but flat, so you can just wing it.

3- BEIJING By train to the far west Sunday, August 26 Beijing West Station is the size and operates like an airport. With your e-ticket from the agency, you first have to pick up your ticket at the special "English" counter, after passing through security. With your ticket in hand, you have to exit and enter through the boarding waiting area—not the platform—after a second security check.

Then you find the right hall and wait for the sign to finally access the platform. In the end, it works pretty well given the incredible number of passengers to manage. Everywhere in Beijing, I saw that the Chinese have mastered crowd flow management.

Nice surprise: second-class carriages are clean, air-conditioned, and bright. Perfect, since I was in for 20 hours. One uniformed attendant per carriage, mobile meal service—luxury! Small downside: no luggage space. Hauling your suitcase up to the top bunk is quite a workout. I was in the middle, so it wasn’t too bad. The landscape, though, whether rural or urban, is pretty bleak. That should change once we leave the eastern plains.

Of course, I got my first police visit, with a thorough passport check and bag search. I was warned—going to the Chinese far west exposes you to this kind of hassle. But they were polite and respectful.

The Chinese Far West

4- JIAYUGUAN Getting by without English Monday, August 27 At the gates of two deserts (Gobi and Taklamakan) and at the foot of the Tibetan highlands, the Great Wall ends at Jiayuguan. Here, I found the deeper China I’d somewhat rediscovered during my bike ride, even if now everyone gets around on electric bikes and I’m no longer stared at like an alien.



Prices are nothing like Beijing: you can find a full meal for 2 €, and my bike cost 7 € for two days. Plus, few people speak English—neither the owner of the HI hostel where I stayed, nor the ticket sellers at the sites, let alone the servers at the small eateries where I ate. Everything is written in Chinese. So I had to use the little Chinese I know to communicate about essentials. It makes the locals laugh to see a European trying to speak their language, but it earns respect. With Google Translate’s help, I managed.

Rant: With their avenues blocked for construction for kilometers without warning, and new roads not yet on maps, I must’ve taken 15 km of detours. More photos...

5- JIAYUGUAN Scams and heritage Tuesday, August 28 The Great Wall doesn’t exactly end at the fort I visited yesterday but 10 km further, at the entrance to a river gorge at the foot of the mountains. All that’s left is a badly damaged tower (more like a mound of earth) and a section of clay wall, similar to the one I biked yesterday.



This morning, I hopped on my bike, determined to venture into the desert to see this highly symbolic site. First, you access it via a wide, brand-new road with not a soul in sight. Just before the site, I came across a grand welcome gate, very period-style, but it’s actually the inevitable toll booth.

Behind the gate, the road continues straight to the site, which you can see in the distance—at least 2 km away—the remains of the tower and wall. I had to leave my bike here. Fine. I went to the ticket counter and asked the price: 120 yuan! I couldn’t believe it—over 15 € for a simple mound of earth.

I showed my displeasure to the attendant, who couldn’t care less, and immediately turned back. 120 yuan—that’s the price for a new road, a fancy gate planted 2 km before the site just to force you to take a shuttle, and employees with nothing to do all day... Now I understand why I didn’t meet anyone!

Heritage China is a bit pricey Generally, sites are expensive for the country’s standard of living, but travelers are supposed to have money, so why hold back? I even gave up on the Forbidden City—reservations required days in advance (or on the black market at an impossible price). I prefer to keep the memory of my first visit, when entry must’ve cost a few dozen cents, and there were only a handful of visitors.

This morning, I took a taxi to see remarkable tombs of common people from the 3rd to 6th centuries. They’re small vaulted caves made of painted bricks, depicting scenes of daily life. Very pretty and moving. But even here, though the price was more reasonable, I was left wanting—only one of the 16 tombs is open to visitors, and it’s apparently not the most beautiful.

The authentic China—at least what’s left of it... Wandering the impersonal avenues of the city, you stumble upon a market. There, you still find traditional China—small shops with questionable hygiene, Go players, musicians, and even a dental prosthetist. The last refuge for those untouched by modernity. More photos...

6- DUNHUANG Abundance in the middle of the desert Wednesday, August 29 Well, I thought the landscape would be less bleak as I headed west. Nope. The only distraction in this expanse of dark, clayey sand is the forests of pylons and wind turbines, plus wild camels racing each other.

However, Dunhuang, the gateway to the Taklamakan, is by far the most pleasant Chinese city I know. There’s a real city center you can explore on foot. It’s hot but not unbearable, with a light, dry breeze. Much nicer than Beijing. The Han Chinese are still the majority, but the Muslim Uyghurs are more numerous, and the muezzin’s call to prayer echoes around the mosque.

The most surprising thing is the abundance and diversity of fruits and vegetables. You wonder how it all grows here. Well-irrigated, the desert sands are very fertile. Here, raisins have subtle, mysterious flavors, and the lamb really tastes like lamb.

Today, I visited the must-see Mingshashan, a dune complex next to which Pila is a molehill. The Basque Country, but covered in sand... More photos...

7- TURPAN The Uyghurs under heavy surveillance Friday, August 31 Surveillance cameras everywhere in the city, armed police stationed at intersections, in front of public buildings, at the entrance and inside tourist sites, police stations on every corner, patrols on foot or by car, khaki uniforms even for middle schoolers... here, the Han Chinese are in the minority, and you can feel it. Turpan feels like a city under siege.



To enter the youth hostel where I stayed, there’s even a security gate, and the receptionist (a Han, like everyone in tourism) wears a bulletproof vest! Reassuring. Still, you don’t feel particularly threatened here, especially as a European. The troublemakers are the Chinese, not the Uyghurs. Generally, China is a very safe country for visitors.

Smile, you’re on camera! I was biking on an avenue when the car in front of me got flashed for driving slowly. I quickly understood why when I got flashed too.

Here, the official time is Beijing time, but it gets dark two hours later. It’ll be even worse in Kashgar. Trickier to manage: everything is displayed in Chinese and Arabic. Nothing in English. Choosing a menu is a shot in the dark. Apart from a few young Chinese, no one here speaks English, and my Chinese doesn’t seem very understandable...

Mogao, the end of the road for the Han Yesterday, near Dunhuang, I went to Mogao, a complex of decorated caves with Buddha sculptures and paintings. Stunning, but so crowded! Luckily, here in Turpan, Chinese tourists barely venture out. So I visited a Silk Road ghost town with only a handful of other visitors and under a howling wind.

The modern Chinese city is swallowing up the old Uyghur neighborhoods—only a museum-like district remains in the center, and pockets of resistance on the outskirts are doomed to disappear soon. More photos...

8- KASHGAR A (relative) love at first sight for the old city Sunday, September 2 After three overnight trains, here I am in the far west of China, nearly 4,000 km from the capital. Despite the omnipresent police and an old city preserved UNESCO-style, Kashgar is my Chinese love at first sight.



Finally, Chinese... well, sort of, because we’re in Uyghur territory here—a Turkic people with nothing culturally in common with the Han, the eastern Chinese. It started badly yesterday at Turfan station, where after three security gate passes, at least five passport checks, and a bag search, three adorable policewomen confiscated my antibacterial lotion because it had a flammable logo...

Then came the welcoming committee of armed cops at Kashgar station. Once all that was over, they left me alone—except you still have to go through security checks like everyone else to enter the old city, the bazaar, the livestock market... The further west you go, the more the siege mentality is evident. Luckily, the border isn’t far...

Despite the inevitable destruction-reconstruction, the city center has been well preserved. Thankfully, because it’s a very original style, a mix of local and colonial. I love it, even if it’s a bit too artificial, sanitized, and watered-down, and rather empty of residents. On the Silk Road, the city was famous for its great food. And it still is—rarely have I seen such richness and abundance of food! And not just scorpions or snakes. More photos...

9- KASHGAR China’s recipe for controlling the populace Saturday, September 1 Xinjiang, along with Tibet, is a "sensitive" area of rebellion in the eyes of Chinese authorities. As a result, the state has these regions and their populations under total control. Tourists also feel the consequences, even if they’re not at risk of re-education camps.

- Putting barbed wire and anti-ramming barriers around sensitive sites (schools, big hotels, government buildings...) - Installing traffic surveillance gates with cameras and photo flashes (for all vehicles passing, including bikes) throughout the city and even in the countryside - Posting uniformed guards with tasers, batons, or huge baseball bats every 100 meters - Training the Han population (ethnic Chinese) in self-defense with sticks, preferably in the morning on the street. Men and women of all ages - Starting school with the national anthem, doing military exercises, and receiving political indoctrination, all neatly lined up in the courtyard. (The dream school for any teacher) - Placing a snitch in uniform (a pseudo-guard) in public gathering places, like youth hostels. Mine spends the day loafing around the courtyard - Putting Chinese flags everywhere on the streets to remind everyone who’s in charge - Installing security gates at every entrance to areas frequented by tourists (thanks for that) but not just there - Never photographing cops, or else! I tried, but it’s not easy...

With all that, you can stroll around safely Not much crime! As for the amount the Chinese state spends to maintain such a system, it’s staggering! A third of the Han living in Xinjiang work in security. Today, I wandered freely around old Kashgar, which is quite large after all. More photos...

10- TASHKURGAN What on earth was I thinking going there! Wednesday, September 5 First, there’s the taxi—pretty crappy, with a driver who doesn’t speak a word of English and won’t stop smoking. Over six hours in that... shared with a completely out-of-it American.



Then there are all the checkpoints along the way. I won’t go on—you know the drill by now.

After that, there’s Tashkurgan—a town with nothing to see, nothing to do. Deserted as soon as night falls. There’s this huge youth hostel and a few lost Chinese tapping away on their smartphones, chain-smoking. This lost American-European crowd, swapping tips on how to enter Pakistan or Tajikistan.

Luckily, there’s the Chinese Pamir Highway, lined with peaks over 7,000m. There’s the feeling of no longer being in China, with a population whose features are Middle Eastern. And these Tajik women with their stunning hairstyles and vibrant costumes. There’s the fact of having reached the westernmost Chinese city, far from crowds and tourist sites. A sort of end of the world. More photos...

11- KYRGYZ BORDER A surreal epic Thursday, September 6 The road from Kashgar to the Kyrgyzstan border is a little over 200 km and passes through beautiful landscapes of colorful, desert-like mountains with acrobatic folds. That’s the bucolic part of the trip.

Yesterday, I managed to gather four people to rent a minibus to reach the border more easily: a Spaniard and an Argentine I’d already met in Turpan, and two New Zealanders who responded to the ad left at the hostel.

Absurdity and paranoia of Chinese authorities The highlight was crossing the town of Wuqia, 50 km past Kashgar. After tallying up with my fellow sufferers, we must’ve passed about ten checkpoints with: - Passport checks: 14 times, sometimes by two cops side by side - Bag checks: 4 times - Smartphone checks: 2 times, with deletion of "non-compliant" photos, and registration of your IMEI in the exit log!... Absurd and surreal at the same time, since my camera stayed in my bag, my apps are in French, and my photos have been online for ages...

With all that, we arrived just as the last checkpoint before the no man’s land marking the border between the two countries was on lunch break. And bam! Another 1.5-hour wait, alongside truckers who were much more used to this than we were.

What to think? The cops themselves aren’t fooled. They play the role they’re asked to, but sometimes you can coax a smile out of them—they realize how ridiculous the situation is.

What’s the point? That’s the big question my companions and I were tempted to answer with "to piss people off." To show you your place isn’t here, but with the other tourists, over there in the east, in Shanghai, Xi’an, or Guangzhou.

As for you, a traveler from a democratic country, you really experience this as aggression, humiliation, a violation of your private space. And yet, I’m respected, they speak to me properly. Today, I better understand what a Palestinian or a citizen of an occupied country might feel daily. A unique experience! Thanks, China.

And to top it off, the cherry on the cake! It’s still this glowing button you press to rate your passage after clearing the last obstacle before the exit stamp. I was so surprised it turned off before I could react. The Spaniard, with great humor and irony, had time to vote "excellent." In the end, he wasn’t wrong—you can hardly do better!

PS: I ditched my buddies at the border. They didn’t want to pay for a taxi to continue. So I took a direct taxi to Osh. The first 100 km are fabulous. I couldn’t take many photos, but I’ll be back on Monday to go to Tajikistan.

More photos...

The rest of the Silk Road, Part 2, in these travel journals: Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan.
Je vous invite à découvrir l'île de Curaçao English translation pending
by Pinacoladada · 2020-02-23 · 71 replies
INTRODUCTION

Des vidéos sont insérées tout au long du résumé. Veuillez cliquer sur l'image pour démarrer la vidéo.

En novembre dernier, nous avons séjourné 2 semaines sur l'île de Curaçao afin d'en découvrir les différents attraits touristiques.

Comme la plupart de nos précédents voyages, plusieurs semaines ont été consacrées à la création de notre itinéraire afin de pouvoir être en mesure d'atteindre parfaitement nos objectifs.

Lors de notre séjour, nous avons utilisé l'application Maps.me, une application mobile qui fournit des cartes hors ligne. Cette application s'avère très précieuse lors de nos déplacements en voiture, en randonnée et même lors de nos circuits à pied dans les grandes villes.

J'avais préalablement téléchargé les coordonnées GPS de toutes les attractions prévues à notre itinéraire dans l'application Maps.me, ce qui a facilité grandement nos déplacements.

La réservation de l'hébergement ainsi que la location d'une voiture ont été effectuées sur internet avant notre départ.

Pour faire une histoire courte, Curaçao se trouve dans la mer des Caraïbes entre les îles d'Aruba et Bonaire, à une soixantaine de kilomètres des côtes du Vénézuela.

Cette île n'est pas très grande puisqu'elle mesure 60 km de long par 11 km de large. Willemstad, sa magnifique capitale, est inscrite au patrimoine mondial de l'Unesco.

Elle jouit d'un climat tempéré et est reconnue pour ses splendides plages, ses eaux limpides, ses parcs nationaux, ses grottes et ses fameux flamants roses.
Train Paris - Valence avec vélo English translation pending
by Ydso · 2020-02-10 · 37 replies
Bonjour Pour "terminer" la Loire à vélo, il me manque le trajet depuis sa source au Mont Gerbier de jonc, jusqu'à Decize. Pour cela, j'envisage de me rendre à Valence pour ensuite rejoindre le Mont. Mais Oui SNCF me propose que des TGV qui ne prennent pas les vélos non démontés... Avez vous une solution ??? Merci
Un mois dans la région d'Aysén English translation pending
by Danmasse · 2020-02-02 · 36 replies
Bonjour !

Je suis un peu en retard pour commencer ce carnet - et je n'ai d'ailleurs pas le courage de me lancer maintenant dans un récit complet...

Je vais donc vous donner quelques orientations générales : - Ayant déjà passé le mois de décembre 2018 à explorer la Carretera Austral à partir de Puerto Montt (où nous avons loué une voiture), jusqu'à Cochrane, nous avons voulu y revenir en décembre 2019 (les paysages de cette région sont extraordinaires !). - Si l'on part de Puerto Montt, il faut tout de suite prendre un ferry à Hornopiren, ce qui pose quelques problèmes : il est recommandé de réserver d'avance, ce qui n'est pas très facile (site Internet confus, infos à fournir sur la voiture, horaires non garantis, etc...). - Passé le trajet en ferry, on traverse les Parcs Pumalin et Queulat, superbes, mais... fort arrosés... Le climat est par contre beaucoup plus sec lorsqu'on arrive du côté de Coyhaique : cela se constate facilement en regardant la végétation. Notre expérience l'a confirmé. - Nous avons donc décidé de prendre l'avion jusqu'à Balmaceda (Coyhaique) et de rester autour de cette ville. Parfait ! A refaire !

Notre principe de voyage : nous organisons tout nous-mêmes, en campant 2 à 3 nuits de suite, puis en nous reposant dans une cabaña. - Cette année, nous avons campé en "sauvage" plusieurs fois (aucun danger), et les autres fois, dans des campings de Parcs Nationaux (Jeinimeini, Parque Patagonia, Reserva Tamango). Nous y étions presque toujours seuls, ou presque... Puis nous allions dans une cabaña : il y en a beaucoup, qui étaient presque toutes disponibles, à cette période de l'année. Il n'y avait qu'à choisir... - La voiture était un SUV Renault Duster, absolument parfait, car avec une bonne garde au sol. - Nous faisions nos courses dans les villages, où les prix sont certes élevés par rapport au reste du pays, mais pas plus qu'en France.

Nous sommes d'abord allés au Lago Carro :



Puis nous sommes allés passer deux nuits dans une cabaña extraordinaire, au bord du Lago Tamango :

Nous voulions ensuite prendre le ferry de Puerto Ingeniero Ibanez jusqu'à Chile Chico, mais il était réservé pour un camion citerne de la COPEC... Il aurait fallu attendre le lendemain soir... Nous avons donc fait le tour du lac General Carrera. Mais, auparavant, nous avons exploré la piste menant à proximité des montagnes situées à l'Ouest : Los Leones.



Au début de la route, nous avons campé dans une ferme, qui nous a ouvert l'accès à leurs sanitaire : parfait ! Puis nous sommes revenus sur la 7, pour prendre l'embranchement vers Chile Chico. Superbe route ! Les arrêts photo sont fréquents...



Nous sommes allés directement à la Réserve Jenimeini (qui fait maintenant partie du Parque Patagonia), où nous avons campé 3 nuits : superbe endroit !

Retour sur Chile Chico, puis sur la route vers Puerto Guadal, et direction du Parque Patagonia, où nous avons d'abord campé au camping West Winds :



Puis, nous sommes allés camper au camping Alto Valle :

Avec de nombreux arrêts pour regarder les guanacos...



Un petit arrêt à Cochrane, pendant lequel nous avons approché le Lago Cochrane



Pour aller ensuite essayer de voir le sommet du San Lorenzo... Pas facile... Nous avons même planté la tente sur le belvédère du glacier Calluqueo... mais le ciel ne s'est pas découvert... (en fait, le lendemain, il pleuvait... Dommage... Il faudra y retourner...).

Nous avons un peu attendu que le temps s'améliore, en campant dans la vallée, dans un champ de lupins, en vain :

Nous sommes donc revenus à Cochrane, et de là à la réserve Tamango :



Et nous sommes allés passer deux nuits dans une cabaña où nous étions déjà restés en 2018, le long du Rio Baker. Un endroit de rêve...



Et nous sommes repartis vers le Nord, Puerto Rio Tranquilo, Baia Murta, et Puerto Sanchez, où nous espérions trouver une cabaña. Mais il n'y a absolument rien... De plus, le temps était un peu bouché...



Un essai sur le route des Exploradores... mais encore un temps bouché...

Alors, ce sera Puerto Ingeniero Ibanez, en attendant notre vol de retour, à partir de Balmaceda. Un temps chaud, superbe... Et une cabaña de rêve... Dur de partir...



Je suis évidemment prêt à vous donner des précisions si vous le souhaitez, mais j'ai un projet en cours, qui me prendra du temps : faire un montage photo/video du type de ceux que j'ai mis sur ma chaine Vimeo (voir adresse dans ma signature). J'en ai déjà fait deux sur cette région, suite à mon voyage de 2018 : "Un Rêve ?" et "Parque Patagonia". Chacun dure une dizaine de minutes. Faites de beaux rêves ! Daniel
Bolivia: Exploring the South Lipez by Self-Drive
by Ticapi · 2020-01-25 · 400 replies
Hi everyone,

The idea of traveling to Bolivia came to me after seeing Jean-François (Max68)’s photos on his website. I thought we *had* to see those stunning landscapes with the colorful lagoons for ourselves. But a self-drive trip didn’t seem doable at first. A few years ago, everyone advised against going to the South Lipez with just one car.

Laguna Kara

It was only after reading Laurent (Lolobe) and Pascal (Pepe874)’s travel journals—who explored the South Lipez solo with a car from Biz Rent a Car—that I thought we might be able to do the same. Meanwhile, we’d already contacted a local agency to organize a trip with a driver and guide. But the idea of a self-drive adventure really appealed to us. With encouragement and tips from Thierry (Tbernay) and Jean-François (Max68), we decided to plan our own self-drive trip. I’d like to thank them for their advice—it was *super* helpful. And a big thanks to all the other forum members for the info shared during our prep!

Laguna Colorada

Planning this trip happened during a tough time for our family. My mother-in-law’s illness and passing, plus a few health issues of my own, made us doubt the trip multiple times and nearly scrap the whole thing.

We booked our international flights in February with Swiss. They offered the best balance of travel time and price from Switzerland. Swiss operates Zurich–São Paulo with their own fleet, and São Paulo–Santa Cruz with GOL. In June, GOL canceled the Saturday flight and rebooked us on Sunday. Spending over 24 hours in that huge Brazilian city didn’t work for us at all, so we asked Swiss to put us on the next Zurich–São Paulo flight. Too bad—we lost a day in Bolivia and had to skip the Tarabucco market on Sunday.

Right after, we also booked the car in February. After contacting Imbex and Biz, we went with Biz. Not speaking Spanish, we were relieved to communicate with Alejandra in French. The contact was great—she answered all our questions patiently. Sometimes it took a few days to get a reply, but we could also reach her on WhatsApp. After our trip, we can *only* recommend Biz for rentals in Bolivia. The cars are well-prepped for the South Lipez tracks. The agency is reliable, and the vehicles are new and well-maintained.

“Our” car, a Toyota Hilux

While planning, we realized the presidential elections would happen while we were in Bolivia. The risk of *bloqueos* (roadblocks and protests) was very real. But in Bolivia, *bloqueos* seem common—you always have to account for that kind of hassle. In late August/early September, Uyuni and the Salar region were blocked for days, leading to food, fuel, and cash shortages. Worried about a blockade in Uyuni and missing the Salar, we decided to visit it first *just in case*.

On election day, the whole country shut down. Planes were grounded, buses and taxis couldn’t circulate, and private cars were banned. There were a few exceptions—ambulances, police, or certain professions—but as tourists, we couldn’t get permission to drive. We asked the embassy, and Biz even requested a permit from the electoral office. So we had to plan to be somewhere with things to do *without* the car.

We decided not to book any accommodations in advance—a first for us. Usually, we plan our stops and reserve lodges, hotels, or campgrounds well ahead. This time, only the room in Sucre was booked, so we’d have a base when we arrived.

In July, Alex (Delhenry) reached out to propose joining part of the trip. He didn’t realize we were leaving in October. Still, we got fresh updates when he returned from the South Lipez. Thanks, Alex—your tips, especially about the Guadalupe–Tupiza stretch, were *super* useful.

In September, we connected with Jean-Louis (Avx) and Anne (Xeta), who were also heading to Bolivia in October, one and two weeks after us. We had dinner with Jean-Louis and his friend after our South Lipez trip and stayed in touch with Anne. It was great to chat with them! Unfortunately, Anne and her husband had a much rockier trip—they got hit hard by post-election issues.

Climbing Volcán Tunupa

Our itinerary wasn’t set in stone—we decided to wing it on the spot. Two weeks before departure, I reconnected with Alejandra at Biz to move the car rental up by a day. With the elections, we wanted to leave Sucre ASAP and focus on the South Lipez. Outside Uyuni and Tupiza, the risk of blockades was zero. We also planned a two-night buffer in Sucre before our flights, just in case. It might sound overcautious, but in hindsight, we made the right call. If we’d left Sucre a day later, we wouldn’t have made it to Potosí—it was completely blocked. On the way back, we *just* dodged blockades in Potosí and elsewhere. Sometimes, you’ve gotta trust your gut.

Here’s our route—only the first two nights in Sucre were booked ahead:

D1 Departure from Switzerland

D2 Sucre (La Selenita)

D3 Sucre (La Selenita)

D4 Colchani (Hotel de Sal Luna Salada)

D5 Jirira (Auberge Doña Lupe)

D6 On the Salar (in the car)

D7 A few kilometers from Estancia Catal (in the car)

D8 Laguna Hedionda (Hotel Los Flamencos)

D9 Laguna Colorada (Lodge by the lagoon)

D10 Middle of nowhere, en route Laguna Verde–Mina Horsu–Quetena Chico (in the car)

D11 Quetena Chico (Lamphaya Lodge Andino)

D12 Quetena Chico (Lamphaya Lodge Andino)

D13 Guadalupe (Guest room at Celia’s)

D14 Along the Rio Grande (in the car)

D15 Tupiza (Hotel Mitru)

D16 Tupiza (Hotel Mitru)

D17 Sucre (La Selenita)

D18 Sucre (La Selenita)

D19 Santa Cruz (Hotel Sun)

D20 Departure from Santa Cruz

D21 Arrival in Switzerland

As you can see, we spent 13 nights in the South Lipez. Initially, we’d planned for nine, but Jean-François (Max68) suggested staying longer. Great advice—we didn’t regret it one bit. We could’ve even added 2–3 more days without getting bored.

Self-driving in the South Lipez takes some prep and a good GPS. We kept it simple and used maps.me to navigate. It’s a solid app—just save your waypoints ahead of time. For some stretches, I used Google Earth to visualize the tracks and sites. If you stick to the tour operator routes, you *almost* can’t get lost. But we often veered off the beaten path and took different routes. Some days, we didn’t see another car. So in case of a breakdown, it’s key to have water and food for several days. In some spots, there’s *zero* signal—your phone won’t work. Another must: it gets *cold* in the South Lipez, and a good sleeping bag is essential. We brought down sleeping bags rated for -10°C and didn’t regret it during our car nights.

The Dalí Desert

Some tracks are *super* rocky—flat tires are a real risk. On those stretches, maps.me’s estimated travel time was way off. Some sections barely let us go over 15 km/h.

Lots of forum members recommend doing the South Lipez “loop” from Tupiza to Uyuni—ending with the Salar—to avoid Uyuni’s crowds. That might work for organized tours, but for self-drive, the direction *doesn’t* matter. I’ll say this: the few vehicles we saw mostly came from Tupiza and Chile, not Uyuni. So if starting from Uyuni works better for you, go for it! Ending in Tupiza means heading toward warmer weather. For our planned stops and climbs, starting in Uyuni helped with acclimatization. Spending a few nights between 3,600–3,800 m before going over 4,000 m is a smart move.

Uyuni Salt Flats in the morning

Overall, we barely saw anyone—except at Laguna Hedionda and Chalviri. There were several tour groups at Hotel Los Flamencos (Laguna Hedionda), but we didn’t cross paths during the day. Hardly anyone on the Salar, on the roads, or at the lodges in the evenings. The *only* place that shocked us was Chalviri. We’d planned to stay there, but it was fully booked—and we counted *forty* tour jeeps on-site. This was around noon! At the Polques hot springs (Chalviri), it was *packed*—we quickly nixed the idea of a dip. Plus, the vibe wasn’t great: soaking right by the road with lodges and restaurants in the background? Meh. Still, lots of tourists love it, so it’s up to you.

For the photos, I kept the colors and mood we saw. The lagoons’ hues are often stunning, but some online photos are *way* over-edited and oversaturated. The South Lipez’s landscapes are breathtaking—no need for excessive retouching.

If you don’t want to read all the details, the start of the travel journal is here: https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=9888761;a=9888761
La Tanzanie, du Tanganyika à Zanzibar English translation pending
by Jlcro · 2020-01-15 · 30 replies
Un voyage qui date un peu, mais qui mérite, il me semble, d'être conté ici. Les choses ne devraient pas avoir tellement changé, j'espère...

jeudi 8 novembre 2018

Dodo à 0 :00, réveil positionné sur 2h30… Et finalement très peu de dodo entre les deux…C’est la quasi nuit blanche. Café, on drive jusqu’au parking alternatif de l’aéroport. On y est accueilli par un garçon sympa qui nous offre le café. Tu lui laisses les clés, il s’occupe de tout… On est rejoint par une famille nombreuse et la navette nous emmène à l’aéroport pour autour de 4 heures et demie. File d’attente, drop des bagages, contrôles, fouilles… La routine… On transite par Schiphol/Amsterdam où on passe une paire d’heure… Ensuite, easy, films à deux balles, mp3, dos en huit, les documents à remplir, les visas, les passeports… Dehors un grand type avec un panneau à notre nom qui nous emmènera au ralenti à travers une piste passablement casse-gueule, jusqu’à un grand bâtiment blanc. L’endroit est tenu par une italienne extatique qui parle de son séjour ici comme d’un miracle !

vendredi 9 novembre 2018 Parc du Tarangire

Geoffrey, guide francophone nous choppe à 9h. On traverse Arusha…

C’est l’Afrique, que veux-tu que je te dise ! On roule durant 3 heures pour atteindre le parc de Tarengire. D’entrée de jeu Geoffrey nous amène au bord d’un petit étang. L’effet est extraordinaire. Il y a tellement de choses à voir de tous côtés , les paysages sont tellement beaux avec d’incroyables baobabs partout, qu’on a du mal à croire que c’est la réalité. Si tu devais crée un jeu 3D sur le thème des animaux d’Afrique, ça ressemblerait à ça…

















Après quelques heures, on arrive sur un surplomb avec vue sur une large vallée.

Photo: votre best of 2019 English translation pending
by LuluMae · 2019-12-22 · 266 replies
Bonjour à tous 🙂

2019 s'achève et il est grand temps de lancer cette nouvelle discussion pour partager le meilleur de l'année.

Sur le modèle des années passées, les principes à suivre sont les suivants : - 10 photos par membre, qui devront être numérotées, et postées dans un ou plusieurs messages, - ces photos doivent avoir été prises en voyage en 2019 - edit: sur suggestion de Kate, parmi votre sélection, une poignée pourra avoir été prise hors voyage - ce n'est pas un concours, il n'y aura pas de vote à clé - c'est en revanche l'opportunité d'échanger nos impressions sur les clichés (soyez prêts à recevoir des critiques positives... ou négatives, mais toujours constructives !)

En espérant vous voir nombreux sur la discussion, et y trouver la même qualité que les années passées !

Alors, qui se lance en premier ? 😉

Pour les nostalgiques, pour ceux qui en veulent toujours plus, voici les liens vers les best of des années passées (du moins, ceux que j'ai trouvés: qu'est-il advenu de 2016 et 2017 ?) : - 2012 - 2013 - 2014 - 2015 - 2018

Joyeuses fêtes à tous !
Alaska 2018, The Last Frontier! English translation pending
by Pir971 · 2019-12-21 · 141 replies
De retour sur VF après plusieurs mois d'errance entre un road-trip en Afrique du Sud, un contrat en Guadeloupe, un voyage en Tanzanie et un déménagement surprise en Guyane... Je commence, enfin et parallèlement à la préparation de notre prochain voyage en Patagonie, le récit de notre voyage de 3 semaines en Alaska réalisé en Juillet 2018. 🙂

C'est un voyage que nous avons organisé 6 mois en avance.

Après deux longs voyages en Afrique australe nous aurions adoré remettre ça, mais cette année je ne pouvais pas partir plus de 3 semaines et nous nous sommes laissés dire que ce serait bien aussi de voir autre chose et de visiter de nouveaux continents. Qu'a cela ne tienne !

Passionnés de faune sauvage et de grands espaces nous n'avons pas mit longtemps à nous décider et c'est tout naturellement vers le 49ème état des Etats Unis que nous nous sommes tournés. L'Alaska ! L'Alaska et sa faune exceptionnelle qui font rêver bien des amoureux de nature.

Nous avons rapidement prit nos billets d'avions pour Anchorage et en avons profiter pour organiser une escale de 2 jours en Islande afin de visiter la péninsule de Reykjanes que nous n'avions pas pu explorer l'année passée pour cause de tempête de neige.

Nous avons décidé de partir en Juillet plutot qu'en Aout car c'est la période qui semblait la plus sèche (tout est relatif) et la plus propice à l'observation des célèbres grizzlys.

En entamant la préparation de notre voyage, nous nous sommes vite rendu compte qu'organiser un road-trip en Alaska serait très différent de ce que nous connaissions.

Tout d'abord l'Alaska est une destination réputée pour être peu abordable, les locations de voitures via les agences internationales habituelles sont très chères, il y a peu de solution d’hébergement donc il faut réserver longtemps en avance et le rapport qualité prix varie entre mauvais et moyen.

En somme, la façon la plus simple d'y voyager est de louer un camping-car, ce qui n'est pas donné non plus.

En 2017 nous nous étions vraiment beaucoup investis dans l'organisation de notre road-trip de 2 mois en Afrique australe que nous avions commencé à préparer presque 1 an en avance. Cette année nous ne voulions pas nous prendre la tête, nous louerons donc un gros SUV et dormirons dedans pendant 3 semaines comme nous l'avions fait lors de notre tour d'Islande.

C'est une option qui peut paraitre peu confortable mais nous aimons beaucoup la liberté qu'elle offre et cela permet de faire de grosses économies sur l'hébergement pour pouvoir faire plus d'activités ou simplement partir plus longtemps...

Nous nous sommes dépechés de louer un Hyundai Sante Fe (or similar) à Alamo via Happytour et de réserver une journée de bear watching (activité phare et très chère qui s'organise des mois en avance).

Puis, pour des raisons d'hygiènes et de repos obligatoire, nous nous sommes également offert 4 nuits en dur et nous avons acheté quelques guide de voyage, dont The Millepost pour attendre patiemment (ou pas) le jour du départ. 🙂

Au final le seul impératif de notre road-trip était d’être à Homer le 14 Juillet pour le bear watching à Katmai NP et c'est autour de cette date que nous avons élaboré notre programme.

J1 (03/07/18) : Islande, Blue Lagoon

J2 (04/07/18) : Islande, Péninsule de Reykjanes, Reykjavic -> Anchorage

J3 (05/07/18) : Anchorage -> Denali NP

J4 (06/07/18) : Denali NP

J5 (07/07/18) : Denali NP

J6 (08/08/18) : Denali NP

J7 (09/07/18) : Denali NP -> Talkeetna

J8 (10/07/18) : Talkeetna -> Anchorage

J9 (11/07/18) : Anchorage -> Girdwood

J10 (12/07/18) : Girdwood -> Russian River

J11 (13/0718) : Russian River -> Homer

J12 (14/07/18) : Brooks Falls - Katmai NP

J13 (15/07/18) : Homer - Kachemak Bay

J14 (16/07/18) : Homer -> Seward

J15 (17/07/18) : Seward

J16 (18/07/18) : Seward -> Whittiez

J17 (19/07/18) : Whittier -> Valdez

J18 (20/07/18) : Valdez

J19 (21/07/18) : Valdez -> Kenicott

J20 (22/07/18) : Kenicott

J21 (23/07/18) : Kenicott -> Anchorage

J22 (24/07/18) : Départ à 8h pour moi destination Pointe à Pitre et à 16h pour Alison destination Paris.

N'ayant que 19 jours sur place, nous avons fait le choix de nous concentrer sur l'Alaska "continentale" en particulier la très belle péninsule de Kenai et le Denali NP qui était une des principales raisons de notre voyage. 🙂 Le Yukon, et l'Alaska maritime seront donc les destinations de prochains voyages, si la vie le permet !

Le cout total de ce voyage a été d'environ 9000€ à deux et je détaillerai nos différentes dépenses à la fin de ce carnet.

Après ce petit texte d'introduction dont tout le monde se fout, place au récit et aux photos !! 😎

A la découverte du Japon, de Tokyo à l'archipel des Ryukyu (Okinawa) English translation pending
by Nathalie971 · 2019-12-20 · 148 replies
Bonjour à tous,

Rentrée il y a déjà un mois d'un merveilleux voyage au Japon, je me lance aujourd'hui à écrire mon premier essai de carnet de voyage. Il s'agit là de bien sûr, remercier tous les contributeurs de ce forum avec lesquels j'ai échangé ou simplement lu au travers de leurs carnets de voyage et questionnements, mais aussi de partager mon voyage qui fut en un mot "génialissime". Pourquoi? car, ce séjour fût un enchantement et comme nombre d'entre vous, je fais désormais partie de la catégorie des gens qui souhaitent avoir la chance d'y retourner un jour.

Pour commencer, voici les éléments contextuels du voyage:

Origine du projet de voyage: Mon compagnon rêvait depuis longtemps de découvrir le Japon. Pour ma part, je ne saurai expliquer pourquoi mais cela m'intéressait oui mais sans plus et peut être après être allés dans d'autres pays avant. Originaire des îles, j'ai un faible pour les plages paradisiaques...Et c'est au salon du tourisme que j'ai découvert par hasard que le Japon en possédait et ce fût un déclic pour moi car je me suis dit ce pays remplit tous nos critères de voyage... hormis le budget... mais bon ça y'est c'était décidé le Japon serait le pays pour lequel on accepte de casser la tirelire, une sorte de voyage de noces sans mariage 😉. Ce fût également le déclic pour mes beaux-parents. Étions tous plutôt libres en termes de disponibilité, nous nous sommes décidés mi-mai, un tour sur internet juste pour regarder les prix d'un billet d'avion histoire de voir.... et voilà les billets internationaux étaient achetés avec un départ prévu 4 mois et demi plus tard, fin septembre.

Typologie: Voyage de tourisme loisirs et familial, parents et enfants adultes (30 et 65 ans) Durée: 5 semaines et demi, 38 jours/37 nuits Période: l'automne au japon, de fin septembre à début novembre 2019 Organisation: par moi-même avec guides papier, sites internet d'échange et de partage (voyageforum, kanpai) et divers blogs de voyage. Aucun guide sur place.

Modes de transports utilisés: A pied, métro, bus, voiture en location, avion Type d'hébergements: guesthouse, hôtels de chaînes, ryokan, auberges de jeunesse, Budget global: environ 24 500 euros pour 4 personnes adultes Activités: spirituelles (temples, sanctuaires), gastronomiques, nature( jardins, balades), sports aquatiques (rafting, snorkelling) , détente (onsen, plage) Lieux visités:

Tokyo (ueno, tsukiji, ginza, marunouchi, asakusa), Kyoto (gare, château, marché nishiki, arashiyama, gion, fushimi inari), Miyakojima, Shikoku (Takamatsu, Kotohira, Vallée de l'iya, Tokushima), Yakushima, Kyushu (Kagoshima, Chiran, Ibusuki, Takachiho, Kumamoto) , Tokyo (shinjuku, shibuya)

Pour Shikoku, Yakushima et Kyushu, il vous faut aller sur un 2éme carnet. Le site a limité le nombre de photos, j'ai donc dû créer un 2éme carnet intitulé "Escapade japonaise à Shikoku, Kyushu, Yakushima et Tokyo".

Détails du budget:

Les déplacements:

Vols internationaux: 800 euros/ personne en A/R Paris Tokyo avec une courte escale (1h30/2h) à Helsinki en Finlande avec la JAL Vols internes (5): 700 euros/personne avec différents compagnies ANA, JAL et Jetcost 1 bus de nuit Tokyo-Kyoto en confort, 58 euros/ personne avec willer express 4 locations de voiture (miyakojima, shikoku, yakushima, kyushu): 1 300 euros au total pour 3 semaines, soit 13 euros/ jour/ personne

Les hébergements:

7500 euros pour 4 personnes pour 36 nuits soit environ 104 euros/couple ou 52 euros/ personne sachant que dans ce prix étaient inclus 14 petits-déjeuners, et 4 dîners kaiseiki, avec comme critère de recherche impératif 2 chambres séparées pour chaque couple, situation géographique de l'hébergement plutôt centrale et choix de toilettes privatives le plus souvent

Le reste: alimentation, sorties, essence, péage, et achats personnels

environ 2 600 euros/ personne soit environ 69 euros/ jour/ personne
L'Alaska en camping-car en juin 2019 English translation pending
by Terminal76 · 2019-12-05 · 97 replies
Bonjour à tous, Je parcours le forum depuis quelques années et je me suis dis : si j'écrivais un carnet de voyage! Nous sommes allés plusieurs fois en Amérique du Nord, la quatrième fois dans l' Ouest USA en 2017. Mon épouse me dit : et si l'on allait voir ailleurs: Moi 😕. En été 2018 nous sommes en chambre d'hôte en Dordogne et partageons le repas du soir avec un couple d'Américain et de Néo Zélandais. Bien sur, le thème de la discussion est " les voyages". Les 2 couples nous disent: pourquoi pas l'Alaska ? Vous qui aimez les paysages vous ne seriez pas déçus. L'Alaska??? mais il fait froid. Pas en été! OK pour l'Alaska en plus c'est le 49ème état des USA. 😛 C'est comme cela que nous sommes allés en Alaska du 12 Juin au 1er Juillet 2019. Un road trip de 20 jours en CAMPING CAR ou RV pour véhicule récréatif. Notre choix s'est porté sur le RV, car après bien des infos sur le forum et autres, il ns semblait judicieux et intéressant d'opter pour ce moyen de transport, bien que ce soit la 1ère fois. Donc, départ de RDC le 12 Juin avec une escale de 1h30 à Reykjavif en Islande avec Icelandair. Au total un vol de 10h00 pour arriver à Anchorage en Alaska en début d'APM.



En sortant de l'aéroport, nous sommes surpris par la chaleur qu'il fait. Mais ns sommes en été !! oui mais en Alaska 😐! Il faut savoir que la température peut monter jusqu'à 30° dans certains endroits. Bon d'accord, ce n'est pas les 40 voir 50° de l'Utah ou du Névada 😎 Pour des raisons de sécurité Cruises América qui est le loueur du RV, impose une nuit de repos avant la prise en charge du véhicule. Ns avons donc réservé un chambre au Guest house inn à l'est de la ville. Et là 1ère surprise ns sommes à côté d'un magasin de vente de cannabis (vente libre en Alaska) ça sent la beuh!!! et tout ce qui va avec (les fumeurs un peu désœuvrés) Pendant la nuit ns entendrons des cris car en plus l'hôtel est situé à côté d'un foyer d'hébergement. Bonjour l'ambiance. Sandrine mon épouse n'est pas bien rassurée.Ns ne sommes pas bien loin du centre et allons faire un tour pour prendre la température des lieux. Anchorage = 300.000 habitants pour une population de 700.000 personnes sur le territoire Aléoutien et une superficie de 3 fois la France.







Jeudi 13 Juin. Ns prenons en charge notre RV avec un RDV à 9h00 du matin. L'employée de Cruises América ns fait faire le tour du propriétaire avec les explications d'usage. Sandrine a également imprimé le manuel en français qui ns sera bien utile. L'avantage réel du RV est que ns rangeons nos affaires une fois pour tout le voyage.



Après 2 heures de préparation, ns roulons enfin en direction du premier supermarché pour faire le plein de courses . Ce sera un Fred Meyers (à notre avis supérieur au Walmart, mais plus cher). Ns prenons enfin la route, direction Talkeetna au nord d'Anchorage à 184 kms pour notre 1ère étape. Ns avons réservé un vol chez Talkeetna air taxi pour survoler les montagnes et atterrir sur un glacier , qui est en fait le camp de base des alpinistes (c'est le vrai nom que l'on donne aux personnes qui gravissent les montagnes). Ns allons découvrir également les versants du Dénali qui est le plus haut sommet de l'Amérique du Nord (6.190m)











le sommet du Dénali.



Suite à ce vol extraordinaire, ns prenons nos quartiers sur le camping de Talkeetna pour une nuit.



Demain départ pour le parc du Dénali.

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