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Authentique Andalousie et camping... English translation pending
by Poussin91 · 2004-06-16 · 41 replies
Bonjour à toutes et à tous,

Il y a deux ans nous sommes partis en Espagne jusqu'a Elche (et sa fameuse palmeraie).

Cet été je souhaiterais poursuivre vers l'andalousie, le Cabo de Gata, Grenade, la vallée tropicale, les alpujarras, et peut-être vers Cadiz Tarifa, et remonter vers Séville et Cordoue (aurais je le temps! sinon je pense séjourner au environs de Grenade alpujarras)

Nous partirions 3 semaines en Août, je sais on va avoir chaud!

Auriez des conseils à me donner, camping (sauvage ou non), restauration (pour la nourriture locale ou resto bon marchés), eau (si précieuse à cette époque) en trouve t'on facilement?, accueil, et bien sur quelques endroits sauvages préservés et où le dépaysement est total.

Je recherche l'authentique (village Maure blanc), le calme, et la beauté des paysages. Je compte faire un peu de rando mais la chaleur...

Y a t-il des campings bons marché et surtout agréables pour séjourner dans la vallée tropicale ( pour alterner entre mer et montagne )?

Je compte sur vous merci par avance
Circuit en Andalousie (Espagne) English translation pending
by Lorelyne · 2004-02-29 · 11 replies
Salut à tous!!!

Voilà, je projette de partir cet été avec plusieurs amis en Andalousie, et je voulais avoir des conseils de votre part sur les visites les plus intéressantes. On voudrais faire un circuit pour voir plusieures villes et sites et on voudrais savoir quels sont les moyens de transports idéaux et pas trop couteux pour ça.

Faut il avoir un endroit fixe pour se loger et faire les visites autour, ou faut il plutôt changer plusieurs fois de point de chute?

Tous vos conseils et suggestions sont les bienvenus!!!

à bientôt!
Questions sur notre itinéraire au Pérou English translation pending
by Cyriljj · 2004-02-25 · 33 replies
bonjour,

quelques question en vrac qui traverse l'espris de ma copine(christine)...

"- SI on fait Lima - Pucallpa en bus puis bateau jusqu'à Iquitos (descente du fleuve) Pas de liaison Iquitos -> Cuzco ? on doit obligatoirement passer par Lima ? Peut-on alors le faire en une journée ? Doit-on réserver les vol avant ou bien à notre arrivée à Iquitos çà suffit ? SI on fait Lima - Iquitos en avion puis bateau jusqu'à Pucallpa (remontée du fleuve) Pour rejoindre Cuzco de Pucallpa : est-ce qu'il est vraiment déconseillé de prendre le bus (je parle effectivement de la partie Huancayo -Ayacucho) et doit-on donc passer par Lima également...

=> quel itinéraire est le mieux ? .... le moins long est le 1er ? Randonnées à Cuzco : Machu picchu, Choquequirau Peut-on vraiment avoir qch sur mesure suivant difficulté et durée du treck ou nous propose-t-on que qq parcours standard ? Puno : Quel sont les lieux de ballades autour de Puno à part les iles ? Arequipa : Quel sont les lieux de ballades autour d'Arequipa à part le canyon de la colca ? Doit-on passer aussi par une agence pour le canyon de la colca ou bien peut-on louer une voiture pour faire une boucle (le bus ne vont pas trés loin ?"

sinon, nous cherchons des coins moins touristique. le genre de lieu ou on peut faire des rencontres sympa; meme s'il n'y a pas beaucoup d'echange a cause de la langue. meme s'il n'y a rien de culturel ou historique a voir..

ou une randonnée ou l'on croise des villages qui ne vivent pas essencielement pour et grace au touriste.

ma derniere demande est peut etre utopique, j'en sais rien mais si vous avez des idées ou vecu quelques chose dans le genre, n'hesitez pas a m'ecrire ou a repondre a ce message.

Merci

cyril
Cuba por la ultima vez... English translation pending
by Memphre · 2004-02-10 · 23 replies
Cuba por la ultima vez....

Apres une premiere experience à Varadero en 1987(ct juste avant la ghettoisation....) une seconde à Santiago en 1995 (le + beau voyage...), nous revenons d'un séjour de quatre semaines à travers Cuba...Cuba et ses incohérences...ses disparités....absurdités...sourires d'enfants...et des grands aussi ! Un questionnement perpétuel avec peu de réponses. Une seule constante: la lente agonie d'un système communiste qui n'en fini pas de mourrir.... Todos juntos...siempre.......venceremos.....Contre qui...?Toute la dérision des 45 dernieres années dans une seule phrase ! Un véritable génocide économique...Je me rappelle les paroles de Rigoberta Manchu lors d'un reportage de National Geographic sur le Guatemala :Ils nous ont tout enlevé mais il nous reste l'espoir... Quel espoir pour Cuba....?Fidel parti et remplacé par qui ? Raul, son frere à peine plus jeune ? Un quelconque ministre encore inconnu de tous ? Ou un téléguidé de Miami (via Washington) ? Voyager, c'est aussi comparer. Voir un progres quelque part....S'il y a changement et amélioration à Cuba c'est dans la liberté d'expression(sic...) : seul à seul ou en tres petit comité on peut maintenant discuter ouvertement de la vie cubaine ce qui n'était pas le cas il y a qq années . Le ras-le-bol est omniprésent.. . On s'accroche à n'importe quelle victoire...:A Guama une vendeuse de T-shirt était désolée que je n'accorde aucune attention à celui qu'elle voulait me vendre: Cuba campeon del mundo de beisbol.....Cuba c'est aussi le championnat mondial toutes categories de la course effrenée aux $$$. Nécessité fait loi...Sauf que la norme maintenant est de prendre les touristes pour des guichets automatiques ambulants....!!! J'avais loué une voiture pour 2 petites semaines afin de parcourir une partie du pays que ns ne connaissions pas du tout . Notamment la region de Pinar del rio et Santa Clara . Signalisation quasi-inexistante mais on s'y attendait. Peu de circulation, donc facile de conduire .Bonnes routes partout.....auto-stoppeurs fréquents : ne pas avoir peur de leur offrir un bout de conduite...ils vous serviront de guide à l'occasion et c'est un excellent moyen de mieux faire connaissance .Hors circuit touristique la connaissance de l'espagnol est indispensable. Au sujet de la langue, il est quand même effarant de constater que des touristes (d'où qu'ils viennent....) qui en sont à leur 4 e ou 5e voyage à Cuba ou tout autre pays hispanique soient tjs incapables de composer la moindre petite phrase en espagnol. A Cienfuegos, au Rancho Luna (un modeste "tout inclus" 3***) tout se fait en anglais avec le personnel....! Du même souffle je me suis demandé : Qui consulte un guide de voyage avant de partir vers ce genre de destination(tout inclus). J'ai posé la question par 2 fois pour avoir 2 x la même réponse: je fais confiance à mon agent de voyage....bin wiiiiiii ! QUE CHERCHEZ-VOUS À CUBA: il y a les amateurs de plages et à ce niveau Cuba n'a sans doute rien a envier à aucune autre destination soleil. Même au Rancho quoiqu'on en dise c'était pas si mal... Il y a ceux qui sont plutot...culture...découverte etc...A ce niveau-là La Havane est sans contredit la ville cubaine à visiter en priorité .On y est resté une semaine et ce n'est pas trop. Seule petite déception: les paladares; réputation de bonne cuisine surfaite .Rapport qualité/prix déficient: 50$ avec vin pour un plat "ordinaire"(cotes de porc) je trouve que c'est exagéré On s'est fait avoir 2 fois....mais à la 3e on a découvert une petite merveille dans le Vedado: restaurant La Roca avec spectacle a partir de 22h30(tres bon) A voir :le Capitolio, un incontournable, et même si toute la déco interieure a disparu il reste de tres belles fresques aux plafonds ainsi que du mobilier d'époque (bcp de reproduction louis XIV) Les musées : celui de la Révolution fait 3 etages ! Fidel et le Ché en long et en large.... J'oubliais: 2 salles consacrées à playa Giron :1ere défaite de l'impérialisme yankee...! Musee de la musique et des instruments . On a bien aimé, mais même là ils nous ramenent leur révolution en montrant qq instruments fabriques dans la sierra pour distraire el ejercito rebelde... Le paseo del prado à marcher de long en large...se laisser aborder par les gens et ...comploter ! Souvent décevant pcq finalement quand ils ns abordaient cela se terminait tjs par la quête de qqchose...! Un tour de ville en caleche; coup de chance notre cocher était un de ces nombreux ingenieurs diplomés qui a compris que c'est plus payant de faire affaire avec le touriste qu'avec une table à dessin... Lors de ce tour :arrêt devant ambassade d'Espagne : il y a foule de cubains tous avec documents en mains. On s'informe aupres du gardien:"Ils attendent le visa espagnol pour partir...." Notre ingenieur/cocher confirme: "ns pouvons sortir de l'île ce sont les pays -hôtes qui font des difficultés" et à ce niveau le Canada est le plus exigeant... La Havane, 4 jours à l'hotel Deauville(Galeano/Malecon) un autre modeste 3*** et 4 autres jours en casas particulares nous a laissé un tres bon souvenir.....mais c'est finalement une ville assez chère: La calèche :30$/2hr...(prix gouvernemental).Les coco-taxis: 2 à 3$ dépendant de la distance mais c'est sympa...

Playa Giron et village Tainos de Guama....Boffff... mais le croco servi au diner était excellent. La langouste aussi... Santa Clara et Remedios :commençons par Remedios. Je me suis laissé influencé par un de ses multiples carnets de voyages que l'on retrouve sur le net ;mal m'en a pris car il n'y a strictement rien à voir ou à faire là...Enfin... Santa Clara : la ville du Ché....On a vite compris qu'à Cuba Fidel est le boss mais le Ché est le modèle....D'ailleurs juste en face de sa statue...il y a un immense panneau- déclaration de Fidel:QUEREMOS QUE SEAN COMO EL CHE.... Le gouvernement cubain y a mit le paquet pour rendre hommage à Guevarra....Petit musée bien fait et visite "émotive" du mausolée. Que le plus cubain des argentins repose en paix... Toujours à Santa Clara faut voir "el Trein". Celui que Guevarra a arrêter au buldozzer et qui fut le tournant majeur de la révolution. Un ancien compagnon du Ché est là pour nous servir de guide. En fait on visite les qq wagons restés en place...nous sommes les seuls touristes, il nous consacre une bonne partie de l'aprem....quel délice! Il connait tout sur Cuba depuis le débarquement de Christophe Colomb du coté de Baracoa jusqu'à Castro et el Ché bien sur, en passant par Cortes...le marquis del Valle, de Cespedes, Marti etc....Quand je veux lui glisser un billet dans la main...il refuse:EL CHE N'AURAIT PAS APPRÉCIER.....!!!! bin la je suis soufflé....!!! PINAR DEL RIO ET VINALES :une agréable découverte, surtout Vinales: contacts tres chaleureux avec l'habitant, pas trop collant... visite de la grotte de l'indien(incontournable)plantation de tabac... Casa particular( chez René-rené Martinez) Acceuil tres tres familial(4 générations sous le même toit) .Excellente langouste(encore....) au même prix qu'un roti de porc (8$).Visite de la petite ecole.J'en profite pour laisser a la maestra les 100 derniers crayons qui me restent(merci DESJARDINS!).Mon épouse a apporté sa guitare: elle leur joue Narciso Yepes et Aranjuez sans trop de fausses-notes (me semble....) Le lendemain matin départ vers Pinar del Rio à +- 30km. On prend en stop 2 jeunes qui travaillent a la plantation Alejandro Robaina (celle décrite dans Le routard). Visite tres interessante: il nous font goûter à 2 sortes de cigares(moi qui ne fume pas...). faut bien leur dire qu'effectivement ils sont tres bons....(les cigares...)

Grosse déception pour le petit- fils du fondateur cependant pcq nous n'acheterons aucun cigare(Pour les offrir à qui....?). Il est midi il faut retrouver l'autopista qui ns ramenera d'abord à La Havane et ensuite à Cienfuegos. Arriée vers 2lhr...oufff une tres grosse journée. Il nous reste 2 jours à passer au Rancho....achat de qq bouteilles de rhum(6...) un peu de catamaran, un peu de plongée et c'est à nouveau le bus Viazul vers La Havane et aéroport José Marti... Ns avons bcp aimé: -Habana viega.Le Vedado un peu moinsSanta Clara( le guide surtout....)Vinales pour l'ambiance en générale et les proprios de la casa...les installations:hebergement/resto/acceuil au Rancho luna

Ns avons eu honte... parfois du manque de discrétion de certains touristes qbcois et italiens à ce même Rancho.......sommes restés estomaqués aussi de la désinvolture avec laquelle ces mêmes qbcois distribuaient leurs $$$...

Nous n'avons pas aimé....la quête insistante de $$ dans La Havane à Pinar ou à Cienfuegos.

Nous avons été tres déçu: de la ville de TRINIDAD....On se demande en quoi elle mérite de faire partie du patrimoine mondial de l'Unesco....On a été déçu et en y repensant on sait pkoi: cette ville que d'aucuns comparent avec Antigua au Guatémala ne lui arrive pas à la cheville.... Nous n, avons pas été surpris...du toutisme sexuel tel qu, il se pratique à La Havane!!!

Nous sommes heureux...d'avoir passé un mois à la chaleur et au soleil tout le temps....un peu moins heureux en se disant qu'on en a encore pour 2 mois à se geler les... ici au Quebec.

Memphre(qui compte ses sous pour repartir...mais plus à Cuba)
Coût d'un voyage en Europe English translation pending
by Pomli · 2003-12-30 · 9 replies
Allo tous

j'aimerais avoir une idée qd'un budget qu'il faut pour voyage en Europe (France, Espagne, Italie, Suisse, Allemagne seraient les pays que j'aimerais aller voir) pour 2 mois cet été
Infos sur la Baja California English translation pending
by Fredevero · 2003-11-22 · 2 replies
Salut a tous,

La semaine prochaine je quitte Los Angeles pour le Mexique, mon periple au Mexique va durer 2 mois vu que j'ai deja passe 2 mois et visiter le sud la derniere fois je desire cette fois faire le nord, je commence par la Baja et j'aurais besoin de quelques infos sur cette partie du Mexique ( endroit a ne pas manquer, budget pour les posadas, bus..) et egalalement sur les destinations et les prix du ferry...

par la suite ce sera le Chili la Bolivie le Peroul'Argentine pour 6 mois si vous avez des recommandations je suis preneur

Je voyage avec des Travellers Cheques y a-t-il des soucis pour les changer en Amerique du sud???

Voila Merci bien de me consacrer quelques minutes

Fred

fredevero@hotmail.com
Doxycycline pour le Togo? English translation pending
by Bushdégout · 2003-10-30 · 9 replies
qq a deja testé ???

mon medecin specialiste maladies tropicale m'a prescrit ca .. est-ce efficace? pour le Togo, en brousse pour une durée d'un an.

Faut-il vraiment l'utiliser sur le long terme ? (>3mois??)

voili voilou ! merci pour vos reponses !
Projets de treks ou de randos English translation pending
by Vilcanota · 2003-09-17 · 7 replies
Il faut bien commencer un jour et comme ce topic ne peut pas se lancer tout seul 😐, je vous propose de lancer le débat en posant vos questions sur des projets que vous avez aussi bien pour des sorties de W-E que pour des séjours à l'étranger.Je pense que chacun pourra apporter des réponses aux questions qui seront posées.Nous avons tous parcourus des endroits différents et il sera facile de se monter une base de données sur toutes nos découvertes.Ne pas avoir peur de poser des questions, ici nous échangeons sur un forum sympa, sans se prendre la tête et nous avons énormément à recueillir pour nos plaisirs du voyage à pied 😎.

Alors à tout de suite, c'est cool comme disent nos jeunes 😉😎
Se marier à Varadero English translation pending
by Doucet · 2003-08-31 · 16 replies
😎bonjour je voudrais des renseignements au sujet de l`hotel brisas del caribe les repas, l`ambiance, le service.etc...

Nous sommes un groupe et nous voulons que ca bouge .

C'est pour un mariage, alors si vous avez deja ete dans un mariage a cuba ecrivé moi . merci.😛
Bons plans pour l'Équateur English translation pending
by Gigipieter · 2003-04-15 · 5 replies
Bonjour, Nous prévoyons de passer 15 jours-3 semaines en equateur en juillet aout. Quel circuit nous recommandez-vous particulièrement? Quels sont les endroits à éviter d'un point de vue insécurité? Merci pour toute info! Gigi & Pieter 🙂
Bons plans pour l'Equateur? English translation pending
by Jaja · 2002-10-17 · 18 replies
Je vais partir pour un tdm en mars 2003 en commençant part l'Equateur. Alors ceux qui ont des bons plans de logement, excursions ou qui ont découvert des trucs extras, merci de me faire partager vos expériences. J'aimerai savoir aussi si il est facile de changer les chèques de voyages ??😎
Recommended itinerary for Colombia's Caribbean coast
by ElenaLf · 2026-07-06 · 3 replies
Hi everyone, We're heading to Colombia soon for two weeks as a family with our two 10-year-old boys. I'm a bit behind on planning our itinerary and could really use your advice! We arrive in Cartagena, where we'll spend 3 nights. Next, we're heading to the Tayrona area for 3 nights. Could you recommend a nice hotel with a pool, ideally family-friendly? Unfortunately, Senda Watapuy and Senda Koguiwa are already fully booked for our dates. After that, we were thinking of spending a few days in Minca. Is that a good idea in late July/early August? How many nights would you recommend? Finally, we're looking for a last stop before returning to France. We've heard about Mompox, but we're hesitant because it seems like a big detour. We love nature, animals, beautiful landscapes, beaches, and authentic places. Do you think Mompox is worth the detour with two kids, or would you recommend another destination (Palomino, Barú, La Guajira...) instead? We don’t want to take any domestic flights. Thanks in advance for all your tips and experiences!
Thai Massage School in Thailand
by Mikmik1 · 2026-08-01 · 7 replies
Hi! It was totally by chance that I stumbled upon VoyageForum (an ad online and a story lol), and I’ve been reading some really old posts from 2011 about Thai massage schools—discussions on how to get by, accommodation, prices, etc. It reminded me of my own experience: I kept things simple by staying with a local family during my entire trip. I only shared all the expenses with them, which, I’ll admit, was super cheap… and I often traveled with them, which naturally opened a lot of doors for me. To start, at the school in Salaya, my Thai friend immediately connected me with Teacher Phong (the school’s mentor and teacher of teachers, a former monk). I was supposed to join a group session with other foreigners, but for some reason I don’t know, I got two days of private lessons for free with this expert… incredible! And on top of that, he loved France! It was an amazing experience. I "discovered" massage by chance—the Thai family just told me: "Try it, you’ll see!" (I’d had a pretty intense massage in the capital before 😅… but the next day, I felt unbelievably great!))

Every morning, I’d take a taxi (chosen by the Thai family at prices that beat all the competition) to this school—I’ve forgotten the name of the little village now… right in the heart of the countryside. Then, in the evenings, I’d keep practicing massage on all the family members… and they’d teach me Thai at the same time!))

Since then, I’ve practiced a bit, with lots of positive feedback. Following Teacher Phong’s advice—he thought my pressure was deep, firm, and precise—he strongly encouraged me to take this seriously.

I love Thailand so much. It’s a whole different way of living… and it’s a real blessing, even if I couldn’t live there full-time. Anyway, that was an unforgettable memory, and sometimes the Thai family and I still say hi—from 2011, 2013… right up to today!

Take care, everyone! !
Off on a winter adventure in the American West!
by Bibouns51 · 2026-06-02 · 80 replies
Day 1 – February 14

We all have two lives. And the second one kicks off the day you realize you only have one, with the determination to spend the time you have left on what truly adds sparkle to your life, Kevin! I like to elegantly introduce a trip with a philosophical quote. First, it gives you the illusion that I’m some kind of deep thinker, and second, it lets me fill up the first few lines of my blank page when I don’t know how to tell you I’m diving back into what really lights up my life: another adventure beyond the horizon! And nearly every other year, like a toxic relationship, my horizon tends to take shape in Uncle Sam’s backyard. And this, despite his cousin Donald calling the shots. Speaking of which, it was partly that impulsive guy who pushed us to be just as impulsive and snag our four flight tickets at a ridiculously low price—a direct result of foreign tourism taking a hit from BetaMax’s repeated antics... Four tickets? Who are the other lucky ones? In this case, our lucky ones are actually lucky ladies: My Flo, always up for exploring the world with me on foot, camelback, or scooter, is obviously in on the fun. The other two seats went to our daughters, Sasha and Luna, both thrilled to be part of this new American adventure...

But what’s the American West like in February?... A gamble. Let’s call it Russian roulette since we’re not landing during peak weather season. That’s why we encouraged our transportation and accommodation to get cozy and produce a little camper van, so we can stay ultra-flexible in the face of any weather tantrums. We’ll be roaming in Kara the van with the motto "Follow the sun!" Bad weather? We bolt. Snow? We speed up. Sunny? We act like it was the plan all along and soak it up.

"Okay, but why keep coming back to the same corner of the globe? After ten American adventures, you must be tired of seeing the same things, right?" But I’m not crazy, you know!... The American West is like making love to your gorgeous wife over and over, always enjoying it just as much. And contrary to what you might think, the American West isn’t just the Grand Canyon, Monument Valley, Las Vegas, and Bryce Canyon. Proof is, after ten trips to the U.S., my retinas are still untouched by three-quarters of the places I scribbled on a napkin for this adventure... Oh, and add to that my wife, who I’ve easily converted to my religion, and boom... relapse is even easier! Because yes, we’ve landed in Los Angeles after a sunny flight over Greenland, still under Danish flag for now. And we’re already heading east through the XXL traffic of L.A.’s eight-lane highways, eager to dive into our first discoveries. But first, night is taking over the sky, and second, we’ve been officially awake for 24 hours, so I suggest wrapping up this intro. I’ll tell you more tomorrow morning. Sound good?



Africa: A Heartfelt Love for a Continent
by Taamaden · 2026-05-06 · 7 replies
“When the Whites came to Africa, we had the land and they had the Bible. They taught us to pray with our eyes closed: when we opened them, the Whites had the land and we had the Bible.” Jomo Kenyatta (p.7)

The Maggi cube, an unchallenged hegemony, and so much more

“The hopeless continent,” headlined The Economist, a British magazine, in July 2000 about Africa. Eleven years later, the same magazine headlined “Africa rising” instead. Images of Africa in the prosperous North constantly oscillate between apocalyptic scenarios and enthusiastic projections. A key issue with such images lies in the generalization they entail. If you look at the continent, considerable contrasts emerge depending on space and time. It’s no surprise that a region of the world encompassing such diverse ecological zones, maintaining such varied ties with other continents, comprising nearly fifty nation-states in sub-Saharan Africa alone, and characterized by a great diversity of languages, belief systems, and historical paths, doesn’t share a single destiny.

And yet, for many people outside Africa, as well as for many Africans, the continent constitutes a single entity, defined by criteria such as skin color, a colonial past, poverty, and the art of survival. Until now, these perspectives were generally accompanied by the idea that Africa had to—or should have—followed a single path together, sometimes called development, sometimes modernization, sometimes liberation, then a market economy. None of these paths delivered on their promises.

The two writers Alain Mabanckou and Abdourahman Waberi—one from Congo, the other raised in Djibouti, both long settled in France and now professors at renowned North American universities (Los Angeles, Washington)—have had enough of pessimistic scenarios: “We are aware that Africa is in the world and the world is in Africa. The same goes for all other continents, as our destinies are inextricably linked for better or worse. We refuse to see Africa as a reservoir of misfortunes or a continent cursed by atavistic misfortune and characterized by ethnic conflicts. [...] It’s this passionate flame we wanted to capture in a book [...] a kind of stroll through African cultures, without any demands, each letter of the alphabet leading us to a notion, a practice, a concept, a moment in history, literature, painting, politics, economics, cuisine, etc.” (p.10-11). Africa, they write, is on the verge of “imposing a signature, a style, a way of being in the world and in relation to the rest of the world.” (p.11) To put words to the continent’s diversity and dynamism, the two authors created a “rambling ABC,” a kind of portrait—or more precisely, a mythography—that lets you see and feel the pulse of a vast continent whose cultural power is unfolding before our eyes. Once marginalized or even mocked, the voice and importance of the Continent in global affairs are now undeniable” (p.11), containing over a hundred entries, mostly concise, written in a relaxed and casual style. The optimistic, even exuberant tone is set from the brief introduction. The duo of authors wants to “sing a love song to the cultures of our continent, to its inhabitants past and present, to its exceptional resources and its spectacular globalization despite a certain pollution that still clouds our skies due to the unmatched duration of dictatorships in some of our regions.” (p.12) In doing so, they don’t want to be too distracted by today’s Afewerki-Biya-Bongo-Déby & Co. ...

Of course, you’ll find tributes to great precursors like Frantz Fanon (“[...] it was a love story and admiration that wasn’t dimmed by the four decades separating his birth from ours. Let’s add that we were born while the native of Fort-de-France had left the world’s stage four years earlier, in the prime of life” p.141), Mongo Beti (“You must read and reread Mongo Beti, a genius who used his fame to support often just causes in Africa, like defending oppressed groups. His place is already in History. His oppressors, like the dictators Ahmadou Ahidjo and Paul Biya, can’t compete in the same category” p.64), the Malian Amadou Hampâté Bâ

(“Posterity remembers him mainly as an tireless defender of African cultures. His plea for the collection and preservation of traditional African knowledge remains a major event for all men and women of good will. One day in 1960, at the UNESCO podium, the native of Bandiagara sounded the alarm: ‘[...] Since we’ve admitted that the humanity of each people is the heritage of all humanity, if African traditions aren’t collected in time and written down, they’ll one day be missing from the universal archives of humanity.’” p.51),

Kwame Nkrumah, “one of the founders of Pan-Africanism, father of Ghana’s independence” (p.239), as well as the historian Cheikh Anta Diop, the writer, poet, and politician Aimé Césaire, and the economist and thinker Samir Amin, but also very warm tributes to certain contemporary African intellectuals like Souleymane Bachir Diagne and Achille Mbembe

(“A few years ago, in dominant economic circles, a rumor often resurfaced, usually disguised as a cold and scientifically proven analysis: Africa is useless. It’s a burden for the rest of the human community. With its 2% share in world trade, it would disappear from stock market radars without anyone noticing. So? Maybe it’ll be pulled up by other continents. Wanting to surpass itself is a crazy bet for Africans, they concluded. Arrogant or clueless, President Nicolas Sarkozy declared before an audience of students and teachers at Cheikh Anta Diop University in Dakar: ‘The African man hasn’t entered history enough [...] He only knows the eternal repetition of time marked by the endless repetition of the same gestures and words.’ That was in 2007. For decades, armed only with reason, an intellectual often steps up to debunk prejudices, lazy readings, and dishonest frameworks used as false fronts by those who, like Nicolas Sarkozy or former journalist Stephen Smith, out of ignorance, contempt, or condescension, distort African reality. This intellectual is none other than the historian and political scientist Achille Mbembe. This heir of Frantz Fanon, Amílcar Cabral, Jean-Marc Ela, and Fabien Eboussi-Boulaga was born in 1957 in Cameroon, in the Bassa region. Marked early by the upheavals of a fratricidal war, Achille Mbembe became the guardian of the memory of martyrs. After brilliant studies in Paris, he went on to teach at the best American universities, but the call of the Continent was stronger than anything else. In Dakar, he once directed CODESRIA (Council for the Development of Social Science Research in Africa) before joining the University of the Witwatersrand in Johannesburg, South Africa. Even though the author of *Critique of Black Reason* (Éditions La Découverte, 2015) spends a few months at Duke University in North Carolina, his observation post remains South Africa. From Johannesburg, Achille Mbembe scrutinizes Africa and the whole world. A lucid observer with an elegant and generous pen, Achille Mbembe knows how to blend big and small history: ‘I was born one day in July, as the month was drawing to a close. It was 1957, in that part of Africa recently named ‘Cameroon,’ a memory of the wonder that seized Portuguese sailors in the 15th century when, sailing up the river near Douala, they couldn’t help but note the presence of a multitude of crustaceans, and named it *Rio dos Camarões*, meaning ‘River of Shrimp.’ I grew up in the shadow of this nameless land, since, in a way, the name it bears is only the product of someone else’s astonishment: a lexical mistake, if you will.’ From this mistake or wound, he made leaven, a springboard to compose a rich work, recognized worldwide. To denounce barriers and barbarians too. But that’s not enough. Among his peers in circles of thought and action, Achille Mbembe passionately and consistently defends human dignity and the beauty of the world. In doing so, he fulfills the mission Frantz Fanon entrusted to him.” (p.227-229),

as well as entries dedicated to lesser-known artists and intellectuals, like the French journalist and activist Rokhaya Diallo, daughter of Senegalese and Gambian parents, or the Ethiopian filmmaker Haile Gerima, who has long lived in the United States. Other names from politics, sports, music, art, and literature: Kofi Annan, p.36; Barack Obama, p.243; Thomas Sankara, p.277; Ousmane Sow, p.285; Yambo Ouologuem, p.250; Léopold Sédar Senghor, p.282; Muhammad Ali, p.30; Nuruddin Farah, p.146; Salif Keita, p.203; Ahmadou Kourouma, p.206; Ngũgĩ wa Thiong’o, p.236; Winnie Mandela, p.224; Kylian Mbappé, p.226 ...

The authors, who resolutely commit to a “mythography” (p.11) of Africa, also pay special attention to local social movements, cultural events, and aspects of daily life. *Y’en a marre*, “which also meant ‘we’re fed up with sitting on our hands’” (p.320-321), emerged about a decade ago in Senegal as a citizen movement of peaceful resistance and symbolizes, the authors emphasize, the fact that African youth are increasingly fed up “with the political circus deployed in Africa since independence, as our parents would say, ‘since the White man left’...” (p.321). A full entry is dedicated to the Maggi bouillon cube, which has flooded African markets for about forty years and enjoys immense popularity (“It’s everywhere in Africa, from Dakar to Djibouti, and from Tangier to Cape Town. It’s in every pot, every stew. Little hands put it in every sauce, every local or adapted dish. An unchallenged hegemony! You’ll find it in diasporas too. The culinary strolls in Paris, in the [...] neighborhood” p.90). Critics blame it not only for impoverishing the aromatic diversity of local dishes but also for being harmful to health. And yet, “he poorest Africans, those who eat only once a day, a few spoonfuls of white beans and a ball of *foufou*, for example, are the most fervent users of the magic cube.” (p.92-93)

For *fonio*, “the new trendy cereal. [...] From the millet family, fonio is probably the oldest cereal cultivated in West Africa, and mainly in its sub-Saharan part, for millennia. [...] Easy to grow, water-efficient, fonio grows everywhere except on clay soils. Long neglected because it was considered the poor man’s crop, fonio is now a source of pride for the farmers who cultivate it and cherish it like the apple of their eye” (p.156-157), the authors immediately offer a detailed recipe, letting the reader know that “e can’t resist sharing this fonio with chicken recipe from Mali with you:

Ingredients: 1 chicken 3 large ripe red tomatoes 4 tbsp tomato paste 4 large onions 1 garlic clove 1/2 cup oil 2 Maggi cubes or salt 2 large carrots 1 turnip 1 large cabbage 2 large potatoes 1 celery stalk 1 packet pre-cooked fonio 4 okra (or okra powder) salt, pepper

Preparation: 1. Prepare the sauce: wash and cut the chicken. Peel the onions, garlic, and vegetables. 2. In a pot, fry the chicken pieces. 3. Dice the onions, tomatoes, carrots, and turnip very small and add them to the pot. 4. Add the tomato paste, salt, and pepper. 5. Simmer for 15 min, then add 2 L of water and the cooked chicken pieces. 6. Simmer for 30 min, then add the crushed garlic and celery, plus the cabbage cut into 4 and the potatoes cut in half. 7. Prepare the fonio: cover it with warm water, let it rest for 15 min, and cook it over low heat. 8. In a small pot, boil the okra and crush them. 9. Mix the crushed okra with the cooked fonio, then salt. Serve hot.” (p.158-159)

The comedy *Black Mic Mac*, released in French theaters in 1986 and addressing France’s increasingly restrictive immigration policy at the time, also gets an entry, as do *Tintin in the Congo*, the popular comic, and *Jip’s Café* (“[...] a little Africa in the heart of Paris, with passersby stopping to admire the ‘ambianceurs’ on the dance floor or attend the cultural events offered by the place” (p.194), an African establishment in Paris that Alain Mabanckou already immortalized in one of his novels.

The duo of authors also tackles thorny subjects like jihadism (p.119), the Rwandan genocide (p.272), the CFA franc (p.82), and dictatorship (p.110). While the two strike the right tone here, many entries leave a slightly bitter taste. Two examples: why doesn’t the text on Barack Obama mention the great disappointment of many people in Africa, who expected more from the African policy of the first U.S. president with African roots than just occasional warm words? Why do the comments on Winnie Mandela gloss over the fact that she was a highly controversial icon of the anti-apartheid movement due to her involvement in kidnappings, acts of torture, and murders of alleged apartheid collaborators? Instead, there’s a compassion that brings tears to the eyes: “She was often reduced to a secondary role, the wife of a great man” or “When victory came, she didn’t taste its fruits. Divorced, isolated. She would never be a ‘first lady’ in an evening gown, posing before a bed of chrysanthemums. They’d keep her far from the circles of power” (p.224-225). At this point, I would’ve liked the authors to take a slightly more critical stance...

That said, these “weaknesses” (if you can call them that) shouldn’t overshadow the book as a whole. It remains an informative, sometimes very entertaining, and often even original work in its own way.

Book information (the original French and the German translation):

Alain Mabanckou/Abdourahman Waberi. Dictionnaire enjoué des cultures africaines. Fayard, 2019. Alain Mabanckou/Abdourahman Waberi. Der Puls Afrikas. Eine Liebeserklärung von A bis Z. Reclam, 2022.

Hery
From Avignon to Casamance Without Flying
by Olive842 · 2026-04-10 · 20 replies
Hi there,

Last February, I made a trip using "public transport" from France to southern Senegal via Spain, Morocco, Western Sahara, and Mauritania.

It’s a journey of about 5,000 km, where I took trains (as far as Marrakech), ferries (to cross Gibraltar and then to reach Casamance from Dakar), and mostly buses on the long desert straightaways. I hadn’t planned any stops in advance or booked any hotels, except for the very first train to Spain, which left plenty of room for the unexpected. Why travel by land and sea? In recent years, flight-free travel has been gaining popularity. On social media, posts explaining how to cross Europe by train as quickly as possible go viral. Traveling without flying—and making sure people know about it—has become a great way to earn a badge of eco-responsibility: an essential totem for anyone wanting to prove both their dedication to the ecological cause and the wisdom of slow travel. I haven’t flown in years, and this journey to West Africa could easily be filed under "responsible travel." But it wouldn’t be honest to say that: in reality, it wasn’t really my aversion to flying that motivated this long trek. I see overland travel primarily as a way to experience the world’s geography at a grounded, earthly pace—the pace of the locals. Besides, I’ll be flying back, which disqualifies any claim to being a model of sustainability. So no eco-badge, and no adventurer’s badge either: you won’t find any heroic tales of camel rides in lost lands or mineral train wagons in this account (popular with influencers, the Mauritania iron ore train now attracts tourists from all over the world, turning "the experience" into something you "have to do at least once in your life"). This five-part story, written on the road, has no other ambition than to recount a journey through places and people, and to share the thoughts they inspire in me. As simply and, I hope, as humbly as possible.

I’m posting the episodes here, which you can also find on my blog (with more photos) at the following links:

Episode 1: Spain, from Avignon to Algeciras

Episode 2: Morocco, from Tangier to Tarfaya

Episode 3: Western Sahara, from Tarfaya to Guerguerat

Episode 4: Mauritania, from Guerguerat to Nouakchott

Episode 5: Senegal, from Rosso to Saloulou

To help those who might want to make the same trip, I’ve also put together a summary of the route with recommendations—you can read it at the end of the story and on the blog: From France to Senegal Without Flying: Route and Itinerary Recommendations

Happy reading, and safe travels!
Renting a car in the USA and driver's civil liability.
by Cadieres · 2025-10-10 · 82 replies
Hi everyone.

I’ve been wondering: Is it still reasonable to rent a car in the U.S.?

Apparently, since early January 2025—and very quietly—the most important insurance coverage, namely the driver’s civil liability, has seen its coverage amount drop from $1 million to just $300,000. This coverage is supposed to protect us from damages we might be responsible for while driving. We can go decades without a single scrape (especially if it’s our fault), but anything can happen in a split second. A motorcycle appearing out of nowhere, a misjudgment at one of those huge intersections with staggered traffic lights, and suddenly we could be deemed at fault for the accident. We’d then have to pay out of pocket for the other party’s medical expenses. Given what hospitals charge... it can easily exceed $300,000 and turn into a nightmare in no time!!! Plus, anyone who’s driven on American roads has seen those billboards for lawyers offering their services to accident victims. So on top of the sky-high medical bill, the lawyer will demand compensation worthy of a Hollywood movie!!!! So, is it even worth getting behind the wheel in America anymore? Well... that’s just my take! And on top of that, I haven’t found any insurance company that offers such high civil liability coverage. Chapka and others do offer coverage in the millions, but motor vehicles are excluded.... So here’s the thing... Unless I’ve "missed something," I’ve come to this conclusion: Renting a car in the U.S. is like playing Russian roulette! But maybe I’m being too pessimistic? What do you think?
USA Road Trip 2023 - Part 1
by Pinacoladada · 2025-07-22 · 167 replies
In January 2023, we started our second road trip across the United States. We stayed from January to mid-March, which gave us plenty of time to visit several cities, attractions, and parks in multiple states.

This travel journal will be split into two parts due to the considerable number of places we visited.

This first journal covers the following states: Ohio, Indiana, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, and California, and takes you through the outbound leg of our road trip.

The second journal will showcase the attractions we visited on the return trip, which mainly follows the famous Highway 1 along the Pacific coast.

So, I invite you to keep reading this first journal, which serves as a long recap to help you discover the various attractions we explored throughout this road trip.

Videos are included throughout the recap. Please click on the image to start the video.

Here are the links to jump to a specific post:

OHIO:

WinterLand - Christmas Lights at Cleveland Public Square Lake View Cemetery - Cleveland - Part 1 Lake View Cemetery - Cleveland - Part 2 Stroll through Columbus Upper Falls to Lower Falls via Buckeye Trail - Hocking Hills State Park – Logan Cedar Falls & Whispering Falls Hiking Trail - Hocking Hills State Park – Logan Ash Cave Hiking Trail - Hocking Hills State Park – Logan Exploring Cincinnati

INDIANA:

Visiting Indianapolis

MISSOURI:

Exploring St. Louis

OKLAHOMA:

Catoosa Blue Whale Discovering Tulsa Exploring Oklahoma City

TEXAS:

Exploring Shamrock Discovering McLean Exploring Amarillo

NEW MEXICO:

Ancestral Sites Trail - Pecos National Historical Park Discovering Santa Fe The Santuario de Chimayó Stroll through Los Cerrillos Walk through the village of Madrid San Francisco de Asis Catholic Church & The Bottle House - Golden Albuquerque Murals 66 Diner - Albuquerque Stroll through Old Town (Albuquerque) Rinconada Canyon Trail - Petroglyph National Monument Mesa Point Trail - Boca Negra Canyon - Petroglyph National Monument Macaw Trail - Boca Negra Canyon - Petroglyph National Monument Cliff Base Trail - Boca Negra Canyon - Petroglyph National Monument Piedras Marcadas Canyon - Petroglyph National Monument Sandstone Bluffs & Ventana Natural Arch - El Malpais National Monument

ARIZONA:

Stewart's Petrified Wood Shop – Holbrook Stroll through Holbrook Discovering Joseph City Exploring Winslow Grand Falls (The "Chocolate Falls") – Leupp Island Trail - Walnut Canyon National Monument Rim Trail - Walnut Canyon National Monument Wukoki Pueblo Trail – Wupatki National Monument Wupatki Pueblo Trail – Wupatki National Monument Doney Mountain Trail – Wupatki National Monument Citadel & Nalakihu Pueblos Trail – Wupatki National Monument Lomaki & Box Canyon Pueblos Trail – Wupatki National Monument Discovering Flagstaff On the way to Sedona Slide Rock State Park – Sedona Midgley Bridge Trail – Wilson Canyon – Sedona Tlaquepaque Arts & Shopping Village Walking Tour - Sedona Chapel of the Holy Cross - Sedona Hiking at Cathedral Rock - Sedona Hiking the Bell Rock Trail - Sedona Hiking the Airport Loop Trail - Sedona Amitabha Stupa and Peace Park - Sedona Hiking the Boynton Canyon Vortex Trail - Sedona Hiking the Devil's Bridge Trail - Sedona Hiking the Birthing Cave Trail - Sedona Bell Rock Inn - Sedona On the roads of Sedona - Part 1 On the roads of Sedona - Part 2 Keyhole Sink Hiking Trail - Kaibab National Forest Discovering Williams Exploring Ash Fork Discovering Kingman Ramada by Wyndham Kingman Davis Camp Park - Bullhead City Discovering Yucca Lake Havasu Boardwalk Tour A duck catches a lobster – Lake Havasu Boardwalk

CALIFORNIA:

Exploring Needles Discovering Goffs Discovering Amboy Visiting the famous Bagdad Cafe - Newberry Springs Exploring Barstow Vehicles from Hell (Mad Max Cars) - Barstow Peggy Sue's 50's Diner - Yermo Liberty Sculpture Park - Yermo Lake Dolores Water Park - Newberry Springs ZZYZX Road - Mojave National Preserve Alien Fresh Jerky - Baker Kelso Dunes Trail - Mojave National Preserve Hole-in-the-Wall Rings Trail - Mojave National Preserve Visiting Mitchell Caverns - Mojave National Preserve Dante's View - Death Valley National Park Zabriskie Point - Death Valley National Park Golden Canyon - Death Valley National Park Artists Drive & Artists Palette - Death Valley National Park Devil's Golf Course - Death Valley National Park Natural Bridge Trail - Death Valley National Park Badwater Basin - Death Valley National Park Harmony Borax Works - Death Valley National Park Devil's Cornfield - Death Valley National Park Mesquite Flat Sand Dunes - Death Valley National Park Mosaic Canyon Trail - Death Valley National Park On the road - Death Valley National Park

NEVADA:

Cleveland Clinic Lou Ruvo Center for Brain Health - Las Vegas Exploring Downtown Las Vegas SlotZilla Zipline - Fremont Street Experience – Downtown Las Vegas Viva Vision Light Show 1 - Fremont Street Experience - Downtown Las Vegas Viva Vision Light Show 2 - Fremont Street Experience - Downtown Las Vegas Viva Vision Light Show 3 - Fremont Street Experience - Downtown Las Vegas Viva Vision Light Show 4 - Fremont Street Experience - Downtown Las Vegas Free Live Music – Fremont Street Experience - Downtown Las Vegas Chucky – Fremont Street Experience - Downtown Las Vegas Las Vegas Strip - Part 1 Las Vegas Strip - Part 2 Las Vegas Strip - Part 3 Las Vegas Strip - Part 4 Las Vegas Strip - Part 5 Tom Devlin's Monster Museum - Boulder City Hoover Dam Lake Mead - Lakeview Overlook - Boulder City Nelson Ghost Town - Searchlight

CALIFORNIA:

Scenic Route through Joshua Tree National Park via the North Entrance Hidden Valley Trail - Joshua Tree National Park Barker Dam Trail - Joshua Tree National Park Cap Rock Trail - Joshua Tree National Park Keys View Trail - Joshua Tree National Park Hall of Horrors Trail - Joshua Tree National Park Skull Rock Trail - Joshua Tree National Park Arch Rock Trail - Joshua Tree National Park Cholla Cactus Garden Trail - Joshua Tree National Park Lone Pine - Owens Valley Miss Alabama & Shark Fin - Alabama Hills - Owens Valley Lone Ranger Canyon - Alabama Hills - Owens Valley Mobius Arch Loop Trail (Heart Arch & Lathe Arch) - Alabama Hills - Owens Valley Eye of the Alabama Hills Arch - Alabama Hills - Owens Valley Boot & Cyclops Arches - Alabama Hills - Owens Valley One Mile Arch, Bowling Ball and Pins & Gunga Din Area - Alabama Hills - Owens Valley Whitney Portal Arch Trailhead - Alabama Hills - Owens Valley Fish Rocks & Trona Pinnacles - Mojave Desert Red Cliffs Trail - Red Rock Canyon State Park Hagen Canyon Nature Trail - Red Rock Canyon State Park Tour of Historic Downtown Tehachapi View of the Tehachapi Loop – Monolith César E. Chávez National Monument – Keene Discovering Bakersfield Kern County Museum – Bakersfield Bravo Farms, Tree House & Petting Zoo - Traver Walking Tour of Kingsburg Exploring Fresno Simonian Farms & Soul Consoling Japanese Internment Tower - Fresno Duncan Ceramic Products (iLoveToCreate) - Fresno Walking Tour of Modesto Wat Dhammararam Buddhist Temple - Stockton Walking Tour of Stockton Discovering Stockton University of the Pacific - Stockton Visiting Lodi Sutter's Fort State Historic Park - Sacramento California State Capitol - Sacramento Walking Tour - Sacramento Walking Tour - Winters Walking Tour - Napa The Chandelier Tree In Drive-Thru Tree Park - Leggett One Log House - Garberville Grandfather Tree - Piercy The Living Chimney Tree - Avenue of the Giants Stephens Grove Loop Trail - Avenue of the Giants Gould Grove Nature Loop Trail - Avenue of the Giants Fleishmann Grove Trail - Avenue of the Giants Mahan Plaque Trail - Avenue of the Giants Founders Grove Nature Loop Trail - Avenue of the Giants Eternal Tree House & Immortal Tree - Avenue of the Giants Drury-Chaney Loop Trail - Avenue of the Giants Walking Tour - Redcrest

COMING UP NEXT:

USA Road Trip 2023 - Part 2
From Caño Cristales to Tayrona Park
by Phil31600 · 2024-12-31 · 20 replies
After about 12 hours of flying from Toulouse (via Paris), we landed in Bogotá six years after our first trip to Colombia. This time, our journey will be very different, with only this stop in the Colombian capital in common. Our travel itinerary Bogotá / La Macarena (Caño Cristales) / Villa de Leyva / Barichara / San Gil / Girón / Mompox / Ciénaga and the Santa Marta lagoon / Minca / Los Naranjos (Tayrona Park) / Bogotá. Step 1: Bogotá (and Nemecon) Bogotá (1/3) This morning, we had a meet-up with Flora from Aventure Colombia, who helped me organize one of our stops, a few transfers, and tomorrow’s day trip, the program of which I changed at the last minute after deciding to skip the visit to the Salt Cathedral of Zipaquirá. Flora is a kind and lovely person, always available, and she did everything to answer my questions and give me advice. She’s a local contact I highly recommend. Flora can help you plan your trip, whether you want a fully organized tour or, like us, just need assistance with a specific stop or one or more transfers between cities. We left Flora after setting a meet-up for our return to Bogotá in a month. As we walked out of her agency, we headed to the wonderful Gold Museum, located just a hundred meters away. I was excited to revisit this amazing museum. Note: Free entry for those over 60, regardless of nationality. Just show your passport. Like six years ago, I was amazed by its museography, the beauty of the pieces on display, and that breathtaking shamanic room.





About two hours later, we decided to walk (careful, it’s a climb!) to the Monserrate cable car (3152m). Long wait to buy tickets and board the cable car! Once we arrived, a few raindrops, an impressive panoramic view of Bogotá’s vastness, a quick visit to the basilica (a pilgrimage site for Colombians), a walk through the tourist market, and at the top, plenty of small restaurants where we had our first Colombian meal. After our hearty lunch, we were lucky to see the sun return! No line for the descent. We then headed back to the hotel because Justine wanted to rest and recover from the trip. As for me, I continued my walk. I discovered a really nice craft market recommended by Flora, Pasaje Rivas, returned to Bolívar Square, and wandered through different streets, including the main pedestrian avenue (Calle 7), where there’s always something to see.



Tomorrow, a change of scenery as we head out for a hike in a small desert (Desierto de Chueca), located about 2 hours from Bogotá in the village of Nemecon. For this outing from Bogotá, with Flora’s help, we booked a car with a driver for the day. Flora also took care of booking the guide (since the site can only be visited with one). Nemecon (2/3) Today, we went to Nemecon to hike about 7.5 km in the ‘Desert of Checua.’ It’s nothing like sandy deserts! Instead, it’s geological formations sculpted by time, wind, and water. After two hours on the road—almost one of them spent navigating traffic jams with cars, trucks, buses, and a continuous flow of motorcycles on either side of our taxi—we reached Nemecon! The village center is really (too?) quiet. We met up with Deisy and headed toward the ‘desert,’ about twenty minutes away on a bumpy dirt road. Once there, a quick briefing, and off we went! Deisy didn’t stop talking (in Spanish) for over 3 hours!!! She told us so much about her region (flower farming, water management, traditions, songs, etc.), the origin of the site, and even mentioned Antonio Banderas, who filmed *The 33* in the village’s salt mine (the story of the survival of 33 Chilean miners after a collapse in their copper and gold mine). One hour of walking to reach the site, one hour to explore it, and one hour to return.





The advantage of this non-stop chatter was that it forced us to brush up on our Spanish at lightning speed. I even wondered if the effort to concentrate wasn’t more exhausting than the physical effort! Especially since on the way back, I got an oral quiz. Deisy wanted to make sure I remembered some of the information she’d given me during the visit: why is this rock white, that one red, and that one black? Back in the village, we had lunch at a restaurant recommended by Deisy before visiting the Nemecon salt mine. Before entering, a guide spent a good half-hour explaining the origin of the salt and the presence of many fossils in the area. Again, concentrating was tough because all the comments were exclusively in Spanish! An hour and a half wandering through the tunnels with a ‘lovely miner’s helmet’ on our heads!







We met our driver at the mine entrance. The return to Bogotá was a bit faster, but traffic in the city center was still heavy! We arrived in front of our hotel between 8:00 and 8:30 PM. It’s been a pretty intense start to the trip! Tonight, our legs are tired. Hopefully, tomorrow will be a bit more relaxed! Bogotá (3/3) We started the day by visiting the Santa Clara Church Museum, located next to the presidential palace. Alejandra (from the local agency ‘Gaia Tours Colombia,’ which organized our stay in Caño Cristales (La Macarena)) had recommended this visit for its rich mural paintings.



A few hundred meters further, after crossing the Plaza Mayor again, we visited the cultural complex housing the Botero Museum, the Mint Museum, and the Bank of the Republic Art Museum. Note that entry is free for all three museums. Botero Museum: There are fewer works by Botero here than in the Medellín museum, but more paintings and sculptures by other artists, all from Botero’s private collection (donated to Colombia). Mint Museum: We limited ourselves to visiting one room (on Flora’s advice) where three gold and gemstone monstrances and a Christ with a crown of emerald thorns are displayed. Photos are not allowed. Art Museum: We visited two temporary exhibitions. Lunchtime came quickly. We had a good meal at a reasonably priced small restaurant in the La Candelaria micro-district, near the Chorro de Quevedo square. We decided to spend the afternoon wandering the streets and alleys of the historic center to discover local street art.



We also passed through very lively pedestrian streets. I also decided to revisit Pasaje Rivas to show Justine all the shops selling more or less artisanal products. Tomorrow morning, we fly to La Macarena at 10:30 AM. Not to dance (you’d be surprised if I told you we were going to take a South American dance class, right?!), but to visit the fabulous Caño Cristales, a river naturally colored by aquatic plants. The planned program includes hiking, horseback riding, canoeing, and swimming among these plants. This site was long inaccessible because the area was controlled by the FARC. Access and tourism development became possible after agreements and amnesty measures between the Colombian government and paramilitary groups. As in other regions, former FARC members have been able to transition into various tourism-related activities.
Une semaine au départ de San Francisco English translation pending
by Williamcaure · 2020-09-16 · 32 replies
Bonjour , nous somme une famille de 4 : parents et 2 enfants de 13 et 9 ans. Théoriquement nous irons à San Francisco fin avril. Nous avons avons de la famille sur place ( les enfants sont plus jeunes). Premier séjour aux États-Unis. Pour cause professionnelle la durée sur place est limitée. les vols sont achetés aux horaires qui nous conviennent: arrivée à SF dimanche 13h35 , départ le mardi 23h00. Après un road trip Nous souhaitons être de retour à SF le samedi soir: visites avec les 2 familles le dimanche, puis entre nous le lundi et mardi j'envisage cet esquisse de programme: dimanche soir :nuit à Midpines Lundi visite de Yosemite park , nuit à Fresno mardi visite de Sequoia park nuit à Three Rivers mercredi route et visite de Trona Pinnacles nuit à Ridgecrest jeudi visite Death Valley Furnace Creek nuit à Las Végas pour le vendredi : le Grand Canyon donne vraiment envie d''être visité , nuit au Grand Canyon? samedi retour vers Las Vegas puis vol vers SF en fin d’après-midi ( je ne prends pas le risque de réserver ce vol plusieurs semaines à l'avance) ou route toute la journée vers SF. votre avis trop chargé , je supprime soit Death Valley , soit le Grand Canyon , les 2 ?

j'ai regardé pour arriver directement à Las Vegas plutôt que San Francisco le premier jour mais il faut ajouté presque 600€ ( j'ai eu les 4 aller-retour Paris SF à 1240€). Si le premier jour je vais à LV en avion en partant de SF quelle marge prendre entre le départ du 2eme vol et l'arrivée du premier? Pour les hébergements j'essaie de trouver sur hotel.com car j'ai un programme fidélité lors de mes déplacements pro. Merci pour vos conseils William
Chorizo ou pas dans la paëlla? English translation pending
by Ajft · 2020-08-08 · 167 replies
Tout fout le camp... Chorizo ou pas ? Un illustre chef espagnol ravive le «paellagate» (Mais moi j'en ai toujours mis... 😛 )
Un choix de vos trois destinations préferées English translation pending
by Andrebart · 2020-05-15 · 73 replies
A cette question si personnelle et difficile je vous propose de choisir 3 destinations que vous conseilleriez. Si possible en ajoutant quelques mots ouvrant la porte à des questions . L'idée est une sélection mais pas un classement .

Mon choix : Nouvelle Zélande - Ile du Sud et Australie Probablement un art de vivre et des espaces diversifiés . Polynesie Des paysages exceptionnels , une simplicité de vie aux couleurs chantantes De San Francisco à Los Angeles (route du Grand Canyon- Road trip - Route mythiqueextraordinaire et variété de culture
American Airlines rajoute des escales à mon vol pour le Pérou English translation pending
by Jerome72 · 2020-04-28 · 146 replies
Bonjour a tous

Nous avons reservé il y a quelques des billets d'avions pour le Perou au mois de septembre avec la compagnie America Airlines. Nous avions choisi un départ de Paris avec une escale a Miami puis vol Lima. Maintenant on me modifie mon vol avec une escale a Londre puis a Miami.

-Les compagnies ont t'elle le droit de faire ce genre de chose sans modifier ses tarifs vu que c'est pas ce que j'avais choisi dans la multitude de proposition?

-Les liaisons entre le France et les USA étant surrement supendue en septembre, c'est pas un risque d'accepter de partir dans ses conditions?

Merci d'avance pour vos conseils
Adventures of a Bygone Era: The Philippines in 1984
by Eiger · 2020-04-17 · 162 replies
After several discussions on VF about travel journals from the Philippines, I decided to write this curiosity: a trip report from a journey made in 1984, when traveling to the Philippines was still an adventure.

A curiosity because writing a travel journal about a trip 35 years later isn’t common, but also (mostly?) because exploring the Philippines at that time had little in common with traveling there today.

Obviously, I’ve forgotten a number of facts, most of the details, but with the help of a few notes from that time and a stack of slides (yes, there was life before digital 😊), many memories came back and added to the highlights I’d never forgotten. The scanned slides aren’t always great quality, but there are still quite a few to brighten up this chatter. Back then, we didn’t snap photos like we do now—film was too expensive—so I don’t have pictures of every place we visited... too bad, comparing some of those spots to how they look today would’ve been interesting.

Why "Adventures"? Why call it "Adventures" in the Philippines in 1984, a word so often used for a simple exotic trip? - Because the lack of information (no *Guide du Routard*, no *Lonely Planet*, no *Michelin Guide*, nothing, and obviously no internet) gave this trip what’s at the heart of adventure: the unknown. - Because the political situation made the stay sometimes dangerous. - Because transportation conditions were always epic, often perilous. - Because the question of where we’d spend the night came up almost every evening. - And for... quite a few other reasons.

That said, we weren’t exactly explorers!

Why the Philippines? First of all, why go to the Philippines in 1984—a country not exactly set up for tourism and about which we knew very little? How could we get an idea of the beauty of the Philippines and its points of interest when we had no guides or photos?

The idea came to us from Thailand a year earlier, during our first long-haul trip. After touring the north of the country, we met a Frenchman living in Phuket, where there were only a few tourists in Patong, with just a few small hotels and guesthouses. Kata and Karon had no buildings or roads, Rawai only had three palm-thatched bungalows, including ours, and the other islands were unknown to tourists. There was plenty to discover, and we wanted to return to this beautiful country... but the Frenchman made us dream about the Philippines—a country to explore, with wild landscapes.

Long evenings of discussion over multiple Sprite-Mekong cocktails (what memories of those headaches!) finally convinced us we had to go to the Philippines.

Episode 0: Before Departure The decision was made: we’d go to the Philippines in May 1984. Our friends and family were surprised when we announced we were going on vacation to the Philippines (a bit like saying today we were going paddleboarding in the Kerguelen Islands 🤪).

These days, preparing for each of our trips takes long evenings of research, planning, and noting down good addresses... etc. But for the Philippines in 1984, preparation was quick: we had very little information about the country, we were leaving almost at random, and the discovery would only be more exciting.

We still had a few bits of info gathered here and there: the rice terraces in northern Luzon, volcanoes, Negros where we were supposed to visit an acquaintance, Cebu and its marine life (we ended up going elsewhere), and absolutely avoid Mindanao, which was practically at war with the regime. That was about it, but it was already a great itinerary.

Nothing was organized in advance; we’d see day by day. We had no idea about travel times or even the existence of transportation options. The main (and sometimes only) way to connect two islands was by overloaded, rusty ferry. Only the big cities had airports.

Let’s Go: Episode 1: Paris to Manila My travel journals always start after arriving at the airport—the Europe-to-“Other Continent” trip isn’t interesting—but the flight to the Philippines was already an adventure, so I’ll make an exception.

This was the era when only a few Asian airlines were on par with Western ones: Thai, Singapore Airlines, and Philippine Airlines. They had beautiful, brand-new planes, and to attract customers (almost exclusively “businessmen”) from the usual airlines (Air France, Lufthansa, British Airways), there was opulence on board: unlimited champagne, all sorts of cocktails... Compared to today’s long-haul flights, there was still one small difference: no personal screens, just one screen at the front of the cabin with one mandatory movie. And I don’t know why, but we only got James Bond films, both ways... that must’ve been the trend at the time.

The tourism boom to Southeast Asia hadn’t started yet, and the “Asian Tigers” weren’t a thing, so there weren’t many business trips. That meant long-haul flights made stops everywhere to fill the planes. Our Philippine Airlines Boeing 747 left London, picked us up in Paris, then stopped in Frankfurt to take on a few Germans. I don’t know why we then made a stop in Dubai—a totally exotic place at the time. There was nothing to do there... things have changed a lot since. It was a small town lost in the desert. The airport was tiny, with just one or two buildings and a supermarket. During the stopover, everyone had to get off the plane and walk to the supermarket. Photo and electronic equipment were dirt cheap—I guess that was the only reason for the stop. Maybe it was their first commercial move. Emirates didn’t exist yet, as I checked online, but anyway, the idea that such a remote place could have its own airline was unthinkable.

Online, I found this photo of Dubai Airport in 1980. Anyone who’s transited through today’s massive airport with its rows of A380s will appreciate it:

Next stop: New Delhi to drop off some Europeans and pick up a few Indians, and finally, the terminus: Manila. I don’t remember how long the trip took with its five stops—an unimaginable journey today. Despite all those stops to fill the plane, there was still enough space to stretch out on the four center seats of the 747, something that never happens these days despite all the flights in every direction.

So here we are, finally at Manila Airport around midnight.

Episode 1: Manila and Baguio To start, a quick note on the political and economic situation in the Philippines in 1984, which had consequences for us as tourists, as we’d soon realize upon arrival.

After several centuries of Spanish colonization, the Philippines became American at the start of the 20th century, then independent. In 1966, Marcos took power, and little by little, his regime sank into corruption and mismanagement, becoming a dictatorship with martial law, all for the benefit of his family and friends, who enriched themselves endlessly. The peak was the assassination of opposition leader Benigno Aquino in August 1983, which triggered harshly repressed protests. So we arrived a few months later in a very poor country, with omnipresent corruption and an extremely tense political situation, as we’d soon see for ourselves. Major protests took place in the main cities during our trip—I’ll come back to that. Two years later, Marcos fled to Hawaii after being forced out of power following rigged elections. This historical context explains a lot of the situations we found ourselves in over the following weeks.

Arriving in the middle of the night isn’t very cheerful. Manila was already a huge city with many slums, where you could find a few business hotels like the Hilton or Intercontinental—way out of our budget—and plenty of run-down hotels. Luckily, two Indians we’d chatted with on the plane offered to take us to their usual hotel. They came to Manila twice a year for business. We accepted their offer, relieved not to have to look for a place to stay in the middle of the night, figuring the address must be good since they came back every time... we were wrong 🙁

We left the airport and immediately got a taste of the local vibe when we got into the taxi: the police asked for our passports. We thought: what’s more normal than police in a dictatorship?

But that wasn’t it at all. Our two Indian friends explained that the police were noting our names along with the taxi number and time. Crime in Manila was so bad that the taxi driver would be held responsible if anything happened to us... welcome to the Philippines 😎 😎

Historically, the Philippines was a very violent country, where everything was settled with guns or machetes. Previous governments had banned carrying weapons, but Marcos later allowed the free sale and carrying of guns, and disputes were settled with pistols again (or worse, as we’d discover later). Since he’d released most of the criminals from prison to form a paramilitary militia at his service (I’ll talk about our encounter with these “heroes” later), it was pretty dangerous to go into many parts of Manila, where these “tonton macoutes” ruled.

We arrived at our hotel without incident... and then things started badly. The room was infested with big cockroaches—exactly what I hate most in those kinds of countries. No way to find another hotel at that hour. After the long flight, the urge to take a shower was so strong that we squeezed into the bathroom as best we could. After that, I don’t remember—I guess we must’ve fallen asleep exhausted under the sheets in the heat... air conditioning wasn’t widespread yet.

The next day, we just wanted to leave that dump as soon as possible. So we decided to head north right away, stopping in Baguio, and we’d visit Manila a bit on the way back.

When we stepped outside, we discovered a pretty run-down neighborhood with potholed streets. But we also discovered the jeepneys. They were everywhere, flooding the streets.





They had crazy sound systems, each one blasting louder than the last. The interiors were kitschy but fun. There weren’t many private cars—almost all transportation was by jeepney, with buses reserved for intercity trips.





Before heading to the bus terminal for the north, somewhere on the outskirts of the city, we needed to exchange some money. I don’t remember how we ended up in a policeman’s jeep who offered his services: - Exchange money on the black market at a better rate than the banks. - Take us wherever we wanted, in this case, the bus terminal.

We accepted both offers (we’d still checked the official exchange rate from dollars to pesos). So we found ourselves in his jeep. After exchanging money, we left in his vehicle and stopped for gas. Without turning off the engine, he calmly smoked a cigarette while filling up. Since we were in a jeep with no doors or roof, we were ready to jump out if things went south, our travel bag in hand.

But we weren’t done with surprises yet. Once we left the small streets, we ended up in a neighborhood with wide avenues and not much traffic, which didn’t justify his incredible behavior. At every intersection, he made the sign of the cross, closed his eyes, and crossed without looking. I was more stunned than terrified! It wasn’t until we got out of the car later that I told Anne-Marie what had happened. I’d seen everything because the cop had put me in the front seat. Luckily, A-Marie hadn’t noticed anything from the back. Crossing Manila by trusting God rather than the rules of the road was ultimately effective. We were lucky—the trip was off to a good start. 🙂 🙂

We then passed through a neighborhood where slums stretched on for a while, and we left our policeman—friendly but a bit crazy—with relief.

A few hours by bus later, here we are in Baguio, cool in the mountains. My memories of Baguio are pretty fuzzy. I remember a small town. After some research while writing this journal, I found that the population was 120,000 in 1980. Given the population density in each home, that confirms my memory of a smallish town. Outside the “official” district with the president’s summer residence and government buildings, there were two or three paved streets with nice houses. The rest was very dirty and very poor, with lots of slums and dirt roads.







People we met on the street invited us to stay with them. These days, we wouldn’t just show up at strangers’ houses, which we should’ve done in Baguio—it would’ve saved us from an unimaginable and dangerous situation... which I won’t say anything about... !😊

The simple wooden house was on stilts at the edge of a hill with a view of the mountains. Since it was the start of the rainy season in a city that gets a lot of rain, we saw a lot of water. Our outings in town happened between downpours.

View from our lodging:

Episode 2: Baguio to Bontoc Aside from the situation briefly mentioned above, it was on the next leg to Bontoc that the adventure really began: an endless and dangerous road, a bus from another era, breathtaking landscapes, and surprising people.

We didn’t know the distance or how long it would take to get to Bontoc. When we arrived after about ten hours, we learned that Baguio to Bontoc was 140 km.

We got on a bus with wooden seats and settled in, two to a seat meant for two. As the bus filled up, passengers squeezed in three or four per seat, with chickens and baskets full of all sorts of things in the aisle. A little embarrassed, we didn’t know if we should squeeze in three on our seat. The seats were super tight (luckily, Filipinos are small), and I didn’t know where to put my legs given my height. I don’t remember if we stayed alone on our bench or if we ended up sharing with others.



The “road” was a dirt track (or rather, a mud track) with endless turns. We held on as best we could to our slippery wooden seats—it was shaking in every direction. The woman behind us was carsick and throwing up... gross... but what were we doing there? Then we plunged into the Sierra Madre... just the name is dreamy!

Rice terraces started to appear:



they took up more and more space along cliffs where we weren’t always reassured,



with lots of waterfalls (all that water had to go somewhere).

A few miserable villages stretched along the track, most often just a few houses balancing between the road and the drop. The bus stopped in every village—people got on or off and settled inside or on the roof. Street vendors offered their products to the bus passengers—a common sight in Asia, even today.



We were in another world—villagers were in loincloths, others had spears. The atmosphere was strange... but all good, we wanted exoticism, and we got it:

This so-called traditional outfit was everyday wear—it wasn’t for tourists since there weren’t any.

Mais où qu'il est ce truc là (4) English translation pending
by LillieoneFE · 2020-04-13 · 690 replies
Voyage 5 mois et 3 semaines en Amérique du Sud English translation pending
by Jef39 · 2020-03-29 · 104 replies
Bonjour, Il n'est jamais trop tard pour rendre compte de son voyage. Le confinement me laisse enfin du temps pour le faire. Je suis parti le 17 août 2017 et je suis rentré le 7 février 2018. Entre temps, je suis allé en Argentine par cargo puis une fois sur ce continent, j'ai visité l'Uruguay, l'Argentine et le Chili. Durant tout ce voyage, j'ai tenu un carnet journalier. Je me propose de vous le livrer.
L'Andalousie à vélo, le top c'est au printemps English translation pending
by Sarana · 2020-03-27 · 29 replies
Printemps 2019 : De Séville à Séville par les villes et villages blancs, une Andalousie encore verte et vide de touristes. Séville, Cordoue, Gibraltar, Maroc (Tétouan, Tanger), Cadix, plus de 1500 km sur les pistes blanches de la vallée du Guadalquivir et les belles routes bosselées de montagne. Chroniques d'un sexagénaire en totale liberté.

Californie en mars 2020: qui veut une part de désert? English translation pending
by Ju45 · 2020-03-22 · 66 replies
Hello à toutes et à tous,

De retour cette semaine, voici le carnet de nos dernières aventures, majoritairement dans le désert californien (petites incursions dans le Nevada et en Arizona). Nous avons eu la chance de pouvoir partir. Cela s'est joué à quelques jours mais on passera sur la phase d'incertitude et de stress les semaines et jours précédant le départ, car bien d'autres sont davantage impactés par ce coronavirus....

Au programme théorique, boucle de 15 jours depuis Los Angeles avec les alentours de Ridgecrest, Alabama Hills, Death Valley approfondie sur 3/4 jours, des belles randos autour de Las Vegas, les désert de Mojave et d'Anza Borrego, Joshua NP et Palm Springs.

Los Angeles n'est pas une ville que nous aimons, mais c'est une destination sur laquelle les compagnies (y compris les low cost long courrier) se livrent une bataille avec des prix compétitifs. Et nous voulions du soleil et ne pouvant partir qu'en dehors de la saison touristique, c'était le meilleur choix pour la rando aux states...

C'est parti pour le départ!

Jour 1: Jeudi 5 mars 2020

Après une nuit à Roissy, trajet en bus pour l'aéroport sous une forte pluie, vol Air France direct CDG LAX sans encombre. Même si le vol est long (11h30), nous avons apprécié le confort d'un vol direct et les prestations de la compagnie Air France (vol réservé au prix compétitif de 330€ hors supplément bagages et autres, tout compris 760€ / 2 avec sièges choisis et un bagage en soute / pers). L'A380 est vraiment confortable.

Arrivée à l'heure prévue (13h heure locale), il fait beau et bon (20°C). Passage de l'immigration hyper rapide, nous voyons beaucoup d'évolutions année après année: le personnel est remplacé par les machines. Tout se fait désormais par les bornes. Seul un passage rapide pour le coup de tampon. En 10 minutes, tout est plié! Récupération des bagages puis attente de la navette Alamo.

Une vingtaine de minutes plus tard, nous voici au parking Alamo. Toujours un moment de "stress" sur le type de véhicule qu'il y aura de dispo. Sans surprise, très peu de choix en Suv 4x4. Seulement un et il y a quelqu'un dedans. On prend un Ford Escape 2wd, la garde au sol est correcte, il est neuf (4000 miles au compteur), spacieux et les pneus Michelin sont bons (résa plusieurs mois à l'avance, 443 € pour 15 jours). Pour la première fois, il n'a pas été possible de valider le "Skip the counter" permettant d'éviter l'étape réputée très chiante de l'attente au guichet. Et je confirme c'est très chiant. Attente interminable, le vendeur essaie de fourguer toutes sortes d'options. Il me dit que je suis "Mr No", refusant chacune de ses propositions.

Il était prévu d'aller se balader l'après-midi au bord du Pacifique à Los Angeles, vers 3rd St, Palisades Park, Venice beach et un sunset éventuel vers Santa Monica. Mais la fatigue, le détour (par rapport à la situation de notre hôtel situé à l'Est) et la circulation très dense dans l'agglo tentaculaire de L.A nous font renoncer. Et nous avons bien fait! Nous allons mettre 1h30 pour rejoindre notre hôtel Days Inn à Artesia (choisi pour position pour la route de demain et petit dej inclus) alors qu'il n'y a que 37 km! toutes les routes sont encombrées, y compris en rusant en quittant les freeway et highway...

Bien contents d'arriver, quartier calme, parking gratuit. Quelques achats à pied au supermarché tout proche Stater Bross pour le diner de ce soir. Hôtel classique (88$), chambre spacieuse avec frigo, M-O, coin table, piscine extérieure non chauffée (et froide). Nous avons trouvé les hôtels chers cette année comparativement à l'Arizona l'année dernière à la même période.

Sunset à 17h49, c'est tôt! Diner dans la chambre et au lit à 19h30! La première nuit est toujours un moment spécial...

Jour 2: Vendredi 6 mars 2020

Le road-trip commence!! réveil évidemment très tôt, on fait l'ouverture du p'tit dèj à 6h30 (avec notre gel désinfectant en poche) et route pour Barstow pour la première rando du voyage peu connue et.. normalement peu fréquentée... Il nous faut 2 bonnes heures pour rejoindre le départ dans le secteur de Rainbow basin, au nord de Barstow. La piste après Irwin Rd est bonne, en tôle ondulée. Quelques passages sablonneux mais ok avec tout type de véhicule si temps sec (et c'est le cas). On traverse le camping de Owl canyon, chaque campeur nous salue.

Aucune voiture au trailhead (😉 !), j'aime. C'est indiqué. Il est déjà presque 10h, le soleil est levé depuis plusieurs heures (sunrise 6h14) et la luminosité n'est déjà plus optimale pour des photographes. Pour nous randonneurs, on est au top ! Il fait beau et on retrouve le plaisir des randos en tenue estivale (65° F, soit 17°C au départ)



Le parking est tout au bout de la piste. J'ai repéré 2 canyons qui semblent intéressants, peu d'infos sur le net sur ce secteur. J'ai envie de faire une boucle plutôt que 2 A/R pour chaque canyon mais je ne sais pas ce que nous allons trouvé comme type de terrain pour faire la boucle. Au programme, une assez longue boucle pour un début de voyage avec 13km mais peu de dénivelé (380m d'après ma trace gpx théorique).

Nous partons par le canyon le plus à l'est, facile à suivre.

C'est rapidement très joli



Une grande diversité, la solitude. Une tortue (morte), des belles pierres



Il nous faut une heure pour parcourir ce premier canyon, qui va vers le nord. Nous galérons à trouver un chemin qui connecte les 2 canyons. C'est un peu casse gueule par endroits (on aperçoit le sentier à droite sur la photo du dessous)



La portion qui suit est moins intéressante (après les arbres en haut de la photo). Deux belles remontées et nous piquons à gauche pour retrouver le second canyon qui va nous ramener à la piste puis à la voiture. Je n'attendais rien de cette seconde partie et nous l'avons préféré, plus ludique



Attention il y a une grosse "marche" à descendre" d'environ 4 mètres puis une seconde de 2/3 mètres. Après quelques hésitations et études des environs, nous "désescaladons" cette partie avec précaution. Il serait plus facile de faire la boucle dans l'autre sens mais ce serait moins joli...

Vers 12h, nous sortons du canyon et remontons sur la piste (faisable en voiture, en sens unique). Nous prenons donc cette (jolie) piste aux belles couleurs malgré une lumière devenue trop crue. La piste a des airs de Death Valley, c'est le désert et plus c'est désert. Personne de près ni de loin...



La dernière partie est commune à notre arrivée en voiture, sur la piste puis au travers du camping de Owl canyon (6$ / jour pour les campeurs, dépaysement garanti!) . Les jambes commencent à être lourdes et ce secteur n'est pas passionnant mais c'est le prix à payer pour faire la boucle... On est en mode automatique, bonne cadence. Il fait désormais très chaud (75°F).

Cette première rando Owl canyon / rainbow canyon nous a vraiment plu. 2h50 de rando, 13,5km et 400m de D+.

Petit rafraichissement à l'espace aménagé sur la piste du retour (picnic area pour les groupes)



Retour vers Barstow qui essaie de revivre (sans véritable succès) en utilisant son emplacement sur la route 66

Arrêt aux outlets de Barstow que nous avions fait en 2014. Aucun achat ici, vraiment pas terrible.

Route pour Ridgecrest. Au passage, arrêt à la ghost town de Randsburg. Petite bourgade sympatique, très Old West. Tout est fermé sauf un bar. C'est sympa. L'arrêt ne nous prend que quelques minutes.





Pas de touristes ici à cette saison. Seuls quelques bikers et pilotes de quads et des locaux.

Check-in au Best western China Lake Inn de Ridecrest en fin de journée (181$ pour 2 nuits, PDJ inclus). Bel hôtel. Ridgerest est une ville où l'on trouve tout pour se ravitailler avant la Vallée de la mort (Walmart, Albertsons) à des prix abordables. Accueil charmant à l'hôtel, soirée relax ici. Jacuzzi extérieur, piscine non chauffée et glaciale. On prend plaisir à retrouver un Walmart avec nos achats pour les prochains jours. Bière, burrito salade dans la chambre. Première journée sympa. Belle entrée en matière avec la rando

A suivre...
Idées circuit et étapes dans l'Ouest américain et ses parcs English translation pending
by Patoupatou77 · 2020-03-10 · 30 replies
Bonjour, Je prépare notre futur voyage (3 couples) pour septembre prochain (16 Sept - 15 Oct). Il se déroulera en 2 temps, un couple rentrant en France le 3 Oct. J'ai beaucoup lu posts et carnets de voyages (Merci à tous 🙂🙂) et je commence à y voir plus clair.

Une idée est un circuit "lent" avec des étapes courtes et du temps pour explorer les parcs (Las Vegas- Grand Canyon- Page- Monument Valley- Mesa Verde- Moab- Capitol Reef- Bryce Canyon- Zion- Death Valley- Las Vegas) J'ai un doc détaillé avec ce circuit établi à la lecture de vos expériences, mais cela serait trop long. Si c'est vers celui-ci que notre choix se porte, je reviendrai vers vous ;-)

L'autre idée est d'alléger ce circuit en supprimant certaines étapes et en passant moins de temps sur certains lieux afin d'intégrer Yellowstone (loin, mais si beau) pour compléter la découverte de l'Ouest pour nos amis qui partent le 3. Plus de route bien sûr. J'aimerai beaucoup avoir votre avis. Est-ce réalisable ? Des suggestions ?

Nous sommes prêts à faire quelques étapes longues mais pas tous les jours. Nous ferons des randonnées dans les parcs, mais pas trop et surtout des pas trop longues ni trop difficiles pour s'adapter à tout le monde. Merci beaucoup de votre aide

J1 arrivée Las Vegas J2 Las Vegas - Grand Canyon nuit Tusayane J3 Grand Canyon - Page J4 Antelope canyon, etc... Monument Valley nuit Mexican Hat J5Mexican Hat - Moab J6 Moab J7 Moab - direction Grand teton, arrêt à Evanston ou Rock Springs J8 Evanston ou Rock Springs - Jackson Hole le 23/09 J9 Grand Teton - Yellowstone nuit parc ou West Yellowstone J10 Yellowstone nuit West ou Gardiner J11 Yellowstone nuit West Yellowstone (mieux pour par vers SLC ?) J12 Yellowstone - Salt Lake City nuit SLC J13 SLC - Capitol Reef nuit Torrey J14 Torrey - Bryce Canyon nuit tropic J15 Journée Bryce Canyon nuit tropic J16 Tropic - Zion nuit Springdale ou Kanarraville J17 Zion - Las Vegas probablement via Valley of fire nuit Las Vegas J18 Vol Retour pour 1 couple
Voyage en Espagne (Madrid, Séville, Valence...) English translation pending
by Danielguy · 2020-03-04 · 30 replies
Bonjour à tous,

Pour l'été prochain nous envisageons, ma femme et moi, une petite virée en Espagne. Ayant déjà fait la Sicile et le Portugal en plein été, on peut dire qu'on ne craint pas trop la chaleur. En tout cas on fait avec... Voila donc ce que l'on a prévu. Qu'en pensez-vous ? Est ce réaliste ? D'autres suggestions ? Nous ne passons ni à Tarragone, ni à Barcelone que nous connaissons déjà. Merci pour vos contributions !

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