Adaptation à l'altitude lors de voyages à vélo en haute montagne
by JeromeA
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
j'aurais aimé savoir si certains ont eu du mal a s'adapter à l'effort en altitude lors de voyages à vélo en haute montagne ?
je ne connais pas vraiment ma capacité à l'effort danc des conditions telles qu'à 3500 - 4000 m...
a votre avis, quel est en moyenne l'altitude ou l'on commence à avoir des difficultés a la respiration ?
s'habitue t-on rapidement ? combien de temps me conseilleriez vous pour atteindre un 4000 par ex ?
pour ceux qui ont emprunter les pistes de l'altiplano andin, ou avez vous eu le plus de difficultés face a l'altitude ? quel était votre progression moyenne ? j'imagine que ca depend de chacun, mais vos experiences m'interesse tout de meme...
merci
jerome
jerome
Salut,
Mon premier voyage à vélo a été en BOLIVIE. J'ai décollé de Nice (0 m) et je suis attéri 24 h après à La Paz (4000 m) : Le choc.
Quand je suis sorti de l'avion j'avais l'impression d'avoir un sac à dos lesté de plomb sur les épaules !
Pour moi les premiers symptomes de l'altitude a été le manque d'appétit. J'ai du mangé l'équivalent d'un repas en 2 jours.
3 jours après mon arrivé j'ai entamé mon périple à vélo. Le plus dur n'a pas été le manque de souffle mais plutôt la lassitude. Bienque je roulais au plat j'étais obligé de m'arrêter tous les 5 ou 10 km. Je ne me sentais pas fatigué mais las. Petit à petit le corps s'habitue et ont retrouve une forme normal. dans tous les cas il faut beaucoup boire et faire attention au soleil.
A+.
Je ne pourrais pas te dire exactement mais il m'a bien fallu entre 1 semaine te 15 jours. ias attention même après 2 semaines il ne faut pas s'attendre à faire des exploits.
Salut jeromeA,
L'adaptation a l'altitude depend de chacun, des personnes s'y adaptent vite, en 2 ou 3 jours, d'autres mettront une semaine. Mais il faut bien compter au moins 2 a 3 jours d'acclimation pour rouler a velo a 4000 m d'altitude.
Les effets de l'altitude peuvent se faire sentir des 2500 a 3000 m d'altitude; la nuit, on dort mal car on est agite, le coeur bat plus vite. On s'essouffle plus vite, on peut commencer a avoir du mal a recuperer apres un effort moyen, comme monter un ou 2 etages. Ces effets disparaissent habituellement en 2 ou 3 jours a ces altitudes, mais il faut attendre environ 1 semaine pour que le corps produise des globules rouges et qu'on soit vraiment adapte a l'altitude, vers 4000 m. Quand on y est acclimate a l'altitude, on peut s'essouffler rapidement, apres un effort violent, mais on recupere vite.
En 98, j'ai debarque a La Paz a 4040 m d'altitude, je n'ai rien fait les 2 premiers jours, j'avais peu d'appetit. Pas d'acclimatation a l'altitude, je suis en plaine. Ensuite, j'ai commence mon periple a velo, 60 a 70 km par jour sur la route, vers Oruro. puis 80 a 100 km / jour ensuite, mais c'est assez plat vers le sud de la Bolivie.
L'adaptation a l'altitude depend de chacun, des personnes s'y adaptent vite, en 2 ou 3 jours, d'autres mettront une semaine. Mais il faut bien compter au moins 2 a 3 jours d'acclimation pour rouler a velo a 4000 m d'altitude.
Les effets de l'altitude peuvent se faire sentir des 2500 a 3000 m d'altitude; la nuit, on dort mal car on est agite, le coeur bat plus vite. On s'essouffle plus vite, on peut commencer a avoir du mal a recuperer apres un effort moyen, comme monter un ou 2 etages. Ces effets disparaissent habituellement en 2 ou 3 jours a ces altitudes, mais il faut attendre environ 1 semaine pour que le corps produise des globules rouges et qu'on soit vraiment adapte a l'altitude, vers 4000 m. Quand on y est acclimate a l'altitude, on peut s'essouffler rapidement, apres un effort violent, mais on recupere vite.
En 98, j'ai debarque a La Paz a 4040 m d'altitude, je n'ai rien fait les 2 premiers jours, j'avais peu d'appetit. Pas d'acclimatation a l'altitude, je suis en plaine. Ensuite, j'ai commence mon periple a velo, 60 a 70 km par jour sur la route, vers Oruro. puis 80 a 100 km / jour ensuite, mais c'est assez plat vers le sud de la Bolivie.
alexis
Autres petites précisions utiles : tu as raison de ne pas négliger la question du mal d'altitude puisque ce probleme peut dégénérer en oedèmes (pulmonaire ou cérébral) et conduire à la mort. Autrement dit, il est important de se renseigner avant de partir sur les symptomes (cf. internet) et, comme on dit généralement "si les symptomes persistent... redescendez !" : et oui, le simple fait de retourner en-dessous de 2500-3000 suffit à régler le probleme. il existe une règle de sécurité générale (qui vaut ce qu'elle vaut mais qu'a l'air sensée) : ne pas passer la nuit dans un lieu situé à une altitude supérieure de 300 m à l'altitude du lieu de la nuitée précédente. Précision : durant la journée, tu peux grimper aussi haut que tu veux (enfin presque !) si, au moment de dormir, tu respectes la règle... il existe des "remèdes" naturels au mal d'altitude, plus ou moins efficaces selon les personnes. Il y a bien sur les feuilles de coca (AUCUN danger pour la santé sous cette forme, rappelons-le ! Pour l'achat et le "mode d'emploi" des feuilles, consulter les vendeurs sur place : vente et usage libres en Bolivie et Perou, tolérés au nord du Chili et nord-est Argentine). Il y a également la Pupussa et la Cochamama (plus difficiles à trouver), qu'on utilise en infusion. Peut-être en existe-t-il d'autre...
"... voyage voyage, plus loin-in que la nuit et leee jour (voyage voyage),
Dans l'espa-ace inouuuï de l'aaaamour (voyage, voyage)..."
Desireless (forever...)
en fait normalement si tu voyage a vélo ;il est rare que tu debarque directement a 4000 m donc que tu sois au tibet, au ladhak, ou en bolivie tu aura progressivement monter toutes les altitudes et tob coprs se regle tous seul!bien sur c clair qu'a 5400 metres entre manali et leh t'est pas au top de ta forme !!!(surtout avec la bouffe et les sacoches!)
la vie est comme un livre, celui qui n'a pas voyagé n'en connais que la 1ere page.
ah quel souvenir que la route manali leh avec le col à 5365...et après ce long plateau à 4700 ou j'aurais pu mourir sur le bout de la route, tant j'étais fatiguée par l'altitude
quelques règles: ne pas pousser la machine, boire boire boire même quand on a la nausée, un duvet chaud pour essayer de récupérer un peu la nuit même si l'insomnie est souvent là, et redescendre coute que coute si ca commence à vraiment pas aller...
les souvenirs de haute altitude à vélo sont inoubliables!
bonjour,
je suis monté à 5200, ''( himalaya) sans connaitre de reels problèmes,
je l'ai fait de maniere très progressive, environ 10 jours. Evitant de monter plus de 500m dans une journée. J'ai dormi deux nuits de suite au dela de 5000.
J'ai connu de grosses fatigues après 4500m, et après 5000m j'ai plus souvent poussé mon velo, que pédalé.
ce qu'il faut, c 'est prendre son temps, s 'acclimater par paliers, rester calme quand le manque d 'air se présente, et redescendre un peu si on se sent vraiment mal. Il existe un medicament à enmener (demander à votre pharmacien)
bernard
voyager, c 'est aller de soi en soi, en passant par les autres.....
bernard.
salut jérome,
Je suis rentré en aout d'amérique du sud où j'ai fait Buenos Aires-Lima. avec mon collègue ont avait un peu peur de l'altitude aussi mais on a eu aucun problème (ou presque) La montée sur l'altiplano en venant d'argentine est tranquille donc tu t'acclimates étape par étape, on a fait une journée de repos à 3000 m avant d'attaquer un col à 3700. ensuite il faut voir que sur l'altiplano (bolivien) tu est toujours plus ou moins entre 3600 et 4000 donc ton corps est très vite adapté à cette altitude et, à ma connaissance, il n'y a pas de col supérieurs à 4800. Le plus haut que nous ayons fait c'était 4500, ça brule un peu les poumons mais si tu dors pas au point le plus haut (toujours dormir 100 à 200m plus bas que ton point le plus haut dans la journée) ça passe. en vraie montagne (4000-2000-4000-2000 etc..) on devait faire 60 km par jour en fin de voyage, un col de difficulté "normale" doit pouvoir se monter à 7-8 km/h je pense (asphalte). sur du plat sur l'altiplano ça dépend du revetement🤪 terre et sable entre 20 et 50 km/jour, asphalte tu peux facilement monter à 100-120 km/jour.
Si ça peut te donner un ordre d'idée Buenos-Aires Lima, 5500 km (ou quelque chose comme ça) en 3 mois et une semaine c'est faisable (en comptant quelques jours de pause). La montagne c'est pas le pire...le pire c'est le vent.
voila, j'ai pas mal d'autres trucs a raconter si tu veux maxdaudiffret@gmail.com
max
Je suis rentré en aout d'amérique du sud où j'ai fait Buenos Aires-Lima. avec mon collègue ont avait un peu peur de l'altitude aussi mais on a eu aucun problème (ou presque) La montée sur l'altiplano en venant d'argentine est tranquille donc tu t'acclimates étape par étape, on a fait une journée de repos à 3000 m avant d'attaquer un col à 3700. ensuite il faut voir que sur l'altiplano (bolivien) tu est toujours plus ou moins entre 3600 et 4000 donc ton corps est très vite adapté à cette altitude et, à ma connaissance, il n'y a pas de col supérieurs à 4800. Le plus haut que nous ayons fait c'était 4500, ça brule un peu les poumons mais si tu dors pas au point le plus haut (toujours dormir 100 à 200m plus bas que ton point le plus haut dans la journée) ça passe. en vraie montagne (4000-2000-4000-2000 etc..) on devait faire 60 km par jour en fin de voyage, un col de difficulté "normale" doit pouvoir se monter à 7-8 km/h je pense (asphalte). sur du plat sur l'altiplano ça dépend du revetement🤪 terre et sable entre 20 et 50 km/jour, asphalte tu peux facilement monter à 100-120 km/jour.
Si ça peut te donner un ordre d'idée Buenos-Aires Lima, 5500 km (ou quelque chose comme ça) en 3 mois et une semaine c'est faisable (en comptant quelques jours de pause). La montagne c'est pas le pire...le pire c'est le vent.
voila, j'ai pas mal d'autres trucs a raconter si tu veux maxdaudiffret@gmail.com
max
c'est cool max, merci pour ces infos !!
je te recontacterai surement pour d'autres d'infos...
en tout cas c'est pas mal d'avoir donné une approximation de ta vitesse journalière selon le revêtement de la route.. ca me donne une idée un peu plus précise des kms réalisables ...
sinon quel a été ton parcours ?as tu traversé le sud lipez? es tu passé un peu au chili ?
jerome
Salut Max (& aussi Jerome),
Je pense partir moi aussi pour l'AmSud l'hiver prochain pour une durée de 4 à 6 mois, j'sais pas trop encore exactement où aller mais j'risque de vous contacter de temps à autre d'ici là ... c'coup ci j'aimerai ne pas me rendre "esclave" d'un intinéraire trop précis mais à force de passer du temps sur le forum j'ai bien envie d'aller partout (sic) ... quoi qu'il en soit tes indications kilométriques sont une bonne base même s'il est difficile de comparer avant d'expérimenter soit même les hauteurs !
A plus, Romain
Je pense partir moi aussi pour l'AmSud l'hiver prochain pour une durée de 4 à 6 mois, j'sais pas trop encore exactement où aller mais j'risque de vous contacter de temps à autre d'ici là ... c'coup ci j'aimerai ne pas me rendre "esclave" d'un intinéraire trop précis mais à force de passer du temps sur le forum j'ai bien envie d'aller partout (sic) ... quoi qu'il en soit tes indications kilométriques sont une bonne base même s'il est difficile de comparer avant d'expérimenter soit même les hauteurs !
A plus, Romain
salut,
au sujet des indications km ils faut bien sûr les prendre avec des pincettes..... NOus ne sommes pas passés au sud Lipez comme je l'ai dis dans un autre post, mais nous avons rencontré quelques gars qui l'ont fait et ça n'a pas l'air rigolo. En fait ce qui n'est pas drôle c'est l'état des routes il me semble, tout le sud de l'altiplano est en terre (en gros de Oruro ou Potosi jusqu'aux frontières) et le sud Lipez semble être l'endroit où les pistes sont le plus mal entretenues (sable, effet "tôle ondulée"...). Donc c'est un bon petit bout d'aventure, tu peux pas vraiment savoir combien de km tu vas faire le lendemain et si le point que tu as sur ta carte est un village ou pas. On a eu un avant gout entre Tupiza et Uyuni...Les routes boliviennes c'est assez spécial..
bon alors le parcours: Buenos Aires-Cordoba-Salta (par Cafayate)-Jujuy-La quiaca/Villazon-petit tour dans une vallée boivienne-Tupiza-Uyuni-sortie au nord du salar-Oruro-Cochabamba-Villa Tunari (là on a passé 3 semaines dans la jungle sans faire de Vélo)- Bus pour revenir a La Paz- La Paz-Cochabamba (lac titicaca)-Puno-Cuzco-Abancay-Nazca-Lima.
donc pas de chili non plus, on a des amis rencontrés sur la route qui ont fait le désert d'Atacama, il parait que c'est génial aussi...on peut pas tout faire!
max
au sujet des indications km ils faut bien sûr les prendre avec des pincettes..... NOus ne sommes pas passés au sud Lipez comme je l'ai dis dans un autre post, mais nous avons rencontré quelques gars qui l'ont fait et ça n'a pas l'air rigolo. En fait ce qui n'est pas drôle c'est l'état des routes il me semble, tout le sud de l'altiplano est en terre (en gros de Oruro ou Potosi jusqu'aux frontières) et le sud Lipez semble être l'endroit où les pistes sont le plus mal entretenues (sable, effet "tôle ondulée"...). Donc c'est un bon petit bout d'aventure, tu peux pas vraiment savoir combien de km tu vas faire le lendemain et si le point que tu as sur ta carte est un village ou pas. On a eu un avant gout entre Tupiza et Uyuni...Les routes boliviennes c'est assez spécial..
bon alors le parcours: Buenos Aires-Cordoba-Salta (par Cafayate)-Jujuy-La quiaca/Villazon-petit tour dans une vallée boivienne-Tupiza-Uyuni-sortie au nord du salar-Oruro-Cochabamba-Villa Tunari (là on a passé 3 semaines dans la jungle sans faire de Vélo)- Bus pour revenir a La Paz- La Paz-Cochabamba (lac titicaca)-Puno-Cuzco-Abancay-Nazca-Lima.
donc pas de chili non plus, on a des amis rencontrés sur la route qui ont fait le désert d'Atacama, il parait que c'est génial aussi...on peut pas tout faire!
max
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Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
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I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



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Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
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Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
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Hi there, we’re a group of 4 cyclists looking to get from Treviso in Italy to Munich with our 4 non-folding bikes. It seems complicated! Are there any solutions? Thanks so much.
hello fellow cycling enthusiasts
here’s a travel journal of the cycling tour through the Rhône-Alpes Auvergne region by Claudio
zouli
it was the plan
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/auvergne-Ralpes/
the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

Hi, I'm looking for a Pino tandem bike for sale in Quebec and I can't find any. Does anyone have any info, please? Thanks a bunch!
Hi there, we’re planning a Munich to Venice bike trip at the end of June 2026. Getting back from Venice to Toulouse by train with 4 bikes isn’t straightforward. What return options have others who’ve done this trip chosen? Any tips or great deals would be much appreciated. Thanks a bunch! !
Hi everyone,
Happy owner of a Pegasus Estremo bike with a Rohloff hub, which is giving me trouble with the SF11-NCX-FT-E-LITE 700C TS 300/0 fork (serial number TD01329060). It’s starting to show its age, and I’d like to repair it to extend the life of my beloved bike.
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Thanks for your help! Have a great day, Alexandre
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Thanks for your help! Have a great day, Alexandre
Hi, I'd like to know if anyone has done this route recently or has reliable info.
Does the track exist, and most importantly, is there sand (for biking)?
Any info is welcome.
Cheers,
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
Hi there,
New to bike touring,
I’d love to start with a section of the Via Rhona to explore and share (route to be decided).
Looking forward to exchanging tips!
hey everyone,
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
Thanks in advance, Jérôme
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
Thanks in advance, Jérôme
A big thank you to Lazarou for all the info you share in this forum!
I'm passionate about Morocco, which I cycled through back in 2009.
Last year, my wife and I explored the High Atlas by tandem. Completely smitten, we're heading back in April (Anti Atlas) and May (High and Middle Atlas), still on our tandem.
Do you have any info on the track between Amezri and Ali Ait Nito? Are the river crossings in the Tessaout still there? It's not easy to navigate with a loaded tandem... especially if the river level is high due to this year's heavy snowmelt!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
A shout-out to a cycling colleague from Savoie
Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php

The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php


The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

First of all... happy New Year! Wishing you great roads in 2017!
I’ve been traveling for a few years now with a high-quality mountain bike, but it’s equipped with hydraulic disc brakes. I live (pedal) with the constant worry of a breakdown (leak, air bubble, heat causing the fluid to...). My bike mechanic tells me it’s impossible to switch them out for V-brakes.
What do you all think? Am I taking a big risk continuing (alone) with these brakes? Thanks in advance for your great tips!
Hi everyone,
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
I’m planning the route to cycle from Lille to Nordkapp with my partner.
Duration: 3 months, from May 1st to July 31st, 2026.
In the attached details below, I need to add some "non-riding" days (rest days, basically).
So I’m looking to "shorten" the trip by taking ferries or trains for some stretches. Which areas could I skip?
Thanks in advance for your great tips.
Have a good evening.
https://www.komoot.com/fr-fr/collection/4023980/-lille-cap-nord-1er-mai-au-31-juillet-2026?ref=collection
Hi there,
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
Hi, has anyone recently bought Primus or Butagaz gas, possibly puncture-style, in Dubrovnik or the surrounding area? Same question for Albania... thanks. aichatou
Hi there,
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Hi there,
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉