Avis sur le Nord-Ouest argentin et Buenos Aires?
by KBG
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Salut a tous,
souhaitant visiter cette region mais ayant peu de temps avant d aller en bolivie j avais quelques questions.
quel est le meilleur moyen de visiter la quebrada de humahuaca : excursions au depart de salta ou bien le bus permet il de bien profiter des paysages ? Sachant que je remonte vers la bolivie jusqu a tupiza ou vaut il mieux dormir ? a humahuaca, tilcara ou purmamarca ? En effet il me parait impossible d effectuer salta tupiza dans la journee vu le nombre d heures de bus.
D autre part pour les valles calchaquies je pensais louer une voiture et les faire en 2 jours a partir de salta. Qu en pensez vous ? Connaissez vous un loueur serieu a salta ? D autre part ou dormir ?
Enfin et toujours pour dormir connaissez vous une bonne adresse a buenos aires dans le centro ( ou san telmo je ne sais pas quel est le mieux).
Derniere chose je voudrais aller voir un match de boca, puis je acheter les places direct au stade le jour meme (j ai pas trop envie de passer par une agence).
merci pour vos eclaircissements.
Salut KBG,
De Salta, tu peux prendre un bus direct jusqu'à Purmamarca (ou passer par Jujuy d'où les correspondances sont nombreuses). En partant tôt de Salta, tu seras à Purmamarca vers midi, tu peux ainsi visiter Purmamarca (pas nécessaire de rester longtemps si tu t'y rends pour la montagne aux 7 couleurs).
De là, tu reprends un bus vers Tilcara l'après-midi même (moins d'une heure de trajet), je te conseille de loger à Tilcara. Nous avons trouvé l'endroit agréable. Il y a le site archéologique à visiter, qqs musées et aussi une belle promenade à faire vers la Garganta del Diablo. De quoi donc occuper une journée entière.
Humahuaca nous a déçu, tu pourrais donc ne pas t'y arrêter et faire le trajet Tilcara-frontière-Tupiza en un jour.
Pour le logement à Salta, nous étions au Terra Oculta - très bien (55 pesos la double)
Les loueurs de voiture sont très nombreux, les prix identiques.
A Buenos Aires, San Telmo est vraiment bien comme point de départ. Nous avons séjourné à l'hostal Carlos Gardel, 110 pesos la double avec airco (un peu cher mais très bien).
Les hostals de Buenos Aires proposent les places pour les matchs.
A ta dispo pour + d'infos Lo
De Salta, tu peux prendre un bus direct jusqu'à Purmamarca (ou passer par Jujuy d'où les correspondances sont nombreuses). En partant tôt de Salta, tu seras à Purmamarca vers midi, tu peux ainsi visiter Purmamarca (pas nécessaire de rester longtemps si tu t'y rends pour la montagne aux 7 couleurs).
De là, tu reprends un bus vers Tilcara l'après-midi même (moins d'une heure de trajet), je te conseille de loger à Tilcara. Nous avons trouvé l'endroit agréable. Il y a le site archéologique à visiter, qqs musées et aussi une belle promenade à faire vers la Garganta del Diablo. De quoi donc occuper une journée entière.
Humahuaca nous a déçu, tu pourrais donc ne pas t'y arrêter et faire le trajet Tilcara-frontière-Tupiza en un jour.
Pour le logement à Salta, nous étions au Terra Oculta - très bien (55 pesos la double)
Les loueurs de voiture sont très nombreux, les prix identiques.
A Buenos Aires, San Telmo est vraiment bien comme point de départ. Nous avons séjourné à l'hostal Carlos Gardel, 110 pesos la double avec airco (un peu cher mais très bien).
Les hostals de Buenos Aires proposent les places pour les matchs.
A ta dispo pour + d'infos Lo
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salut (voisin de toulouse)
ns y sommes allés l'ete dernier, passés quelques j a purmamarca(super joli et sympa) j'ai mis sur mon blog les adresses des hostals ou ns avons sejournés, et egalement celle du gars qui ns a emmener aux salines(pour pas cher).C'est mieux que de louer un vehicule depuis salta(a mon avis)tu profites mieux du paysages et tu ne t'em.. pas ni a conduire, ni a faire gaffe a ton vehicule...
a bsa, sommes allés au "clan" ils font des sorties pour aller voir des matchs a la "bombonera"
pareil, tout sur mon blog (t'es pas obligé de tout lire)
bonne route
mag
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Bonjour
Il ya différents autobus tous les jours au départ de Jujuy qui te permettent de rejoindre Humahuaca.C'est plus facile que deSalta puisque tu gagnes 120km de route qui est somme toute sans grand intér^t par rapport à la quebrada. Bien sur tu ne peux pas faire les arrêts que tu t'autoriserais de faire en ayant ton propre véhicule mais tu peux tout de même bien admirer ces paysages superbes. Tu peux aussi t'arrêter en route, descendre à purmamarca, visiter puis reprendre un autre bus, descendre à Tilcara pour finalement en reprendre un autre et aller jusqu'à Humahuaca. Tu peux dormir là où bon te semble..;purmamarca, tilcara...
Tu devrais pouvoir reprendre sans pb un bus pour la Bolivie à partir de Humahuaca. Renseigne toi d'abord à Jujuy.
Pour le sud de Salta jusqu'a Cafayate, tu as plusieurs possibilités: soit louer une voiture, soit un tour avec une agence de tourisme, soit faire en bus mais tu ne fais pas le tours complet.
pour cette dernière manière, tu peux faire Salta/Cafayate aller retour ( en dormant à Cafayate) soit faire salta/cachi par la cuesta de Lipan et dormir à Cachi
Si cela t'intéresse, je peux te donner des lieux corrects, sympa et à prix raisonnable pour dormir. J'ai même une chambre chez l'habitant à Cachi.
Si tu souhaites louer une voiture, je te donne les coordonnées d'un loueur sérieux sur Salta ( tu le contactes de la part de Nicole, la française amie de Maria Eugenia de l'hostal del Cerro. Je te conseille d'ailleurs cet hotel à Salta) Je te donne aussi une agence sérieuse pour le tour sud en 2 jours si tu optes pour cette solution et te communique un hotel sur Cafayate car tu dormiras à Cafayate) Sinon, je peux aussi te communiquer le mail d'un ami qui vient de commencer à organiser des circuits, hors des sentiers battus, adaptés aux souhaits de chacun . Il s'appelle Juan et son mail est: jcsonder@hotmail.com. Tu lui écris de ma part ( nicole)
Si au dela de tout cela, tu as besoin d'autre chose, je t'aiderai volontiers. Si tu veux que nous discutions, je peux t'appeler sur un fixe, écris le moi sur mon mail perso: nicole.brondy@wanadoo.fr
Voici les différents renseignements:
SALTA
HOSTAL DEL CERRO Sante Fe 456 0387 431 8572 0387 422 1726 hostaldelcerro@hotmail.com site : http://www.hostaldelcerro.8k.com
ACTIVE ARGENTINE ( Agence de voyages) Irene est devenue une amie. Zuviria 982 0387 431 18 68 www.Active-Argentina.com Argentina@Active-Argentina.com
Location véhicule : SALTA GEOCAR SRL JM Leguizamon 721 1er Piso Of 5 Tel: 0387 436 25 01 ou 431 33 63 Cel: 154 10 61 23 saltageocar@argentina.com www.saltageocar.8k.com
RESTAURANTS: RINCONADA esq San Martin et Catamarca
JUJUY
JUJUY HOSTAL Coronel Puch 628 0388 424 13 97 jujuyhostel@hotmail.com
MUNAY Alvear 1230 Tel: 0388 422 84 35
SAN ANTONIO DE LOS COBRES
EL RANCHO ( très simple, très familial et très sympa) ( tenu par un instit de l’école) 0387 154 436 169
SUSQUES Los Cardones ( demander l'adresse à la despensa qui se trouve à côté di terminal de Andes Bus, dans la rue principale)
HUMAHUACA
Residencial Humahuaca Cordoba esq Corrientes 401 Tel 03887 421 141
CAFAYATE
EL HOSPEDAJE Camila Quintana de niño esq Salta 03868 42 16 80 elhospedaje@nortevirtual.com
HOSTAL DEL ANGEL San Martin 162 Tel 03868 422 212 Pas cher, très propre, refait à neuf et à 50m de la place centrale 40pesospersonneptdejcompri
CACHI Chez l’habitant Sara CHILIGAY Rumi Huasi Quipon Cachi Tel : 0387 054 565 192
Donc, a bientôt et avec plaisir
HOSTAL DEL CERRO Sante Fe 456 0387 431 8572 0387 422 1726 hostaldelcerro@hotmail.com site : http://www.hostaldelcerro.8k.com
ACTIVE ARGENTINE ( Agence de voyages) Irene est devenue une amie. Zuviria 982 0387 431 18 68 www.Active-Argentina.com Argentina@Active-Argentina.com
Location véhicule : SALTA GEOCAR SRL JM Leguizamon 721 1er Piso Of 5 Tel: 0387 436 25 01 ou 431 33 63 Cel: 154 10 61 23 saltageocar@argentina.com www.saltageocar.8k.com
RESTAURANTS: RINCONADA esq San Martin et Catamarca
JUJUY
JUJUY HOSTAL Coronel Puch 628 0388 424 13 97 jujuyhostel@hotmail.com
MUNAY Alvear 1230 Tel: 0388 422 84 35
SAN ANTONIO DE LOS COBRES
EL RANCHO ( très simple, très familial et très sympa) ( tenu par un instit de l’école) 0387 154 436 169
SUSQUES Los Cardones ( demander l'adresse à la despensa qui se trouve à côté di terminal de Andes Bus, dans la rue principale)
HUMAHUACA
Residencial Humahuaca Cordoba esq Corrientes 401 Tel 03887 421 141
CAFAYATE
EL HOSPEDAJE Camila Quintana de niño esq Salta 03868 42 16 80 elhospedaje@nortevirtual.com
HOSTAL DEL ANGEL San Martin 162 Tel 03868 422 212 Pas cher, très propre, refait à neuf et à 50m de la place centrale 40pesospersonneptdejcompri
CACHI Chez l’habitant Sara CHILIGAY Rumi Huasi Quipon Cachi Tel : 0387 054 565 192
Donc, a bientôt et avec plaisir
Nicole
Asso. Les Enfants d'Atacama (aide à la scolarisation dans les Andes Argentines- Prov. de Jujuy: San Juan de Quillaques; Puesto Sey et Huachichocana
Les sites pour jeter un oeil:
http://pagesperso-orange.fr/fal83
http://brondy.free.fr
Excuse moi, j'ai oublié de te répondre pour B Aires:
Tu peux soit contacter Herge qui écrit sur le forum ( il peut t'accueillir s'il en a la possibilité) soit aller à un hotel qui n'est pas très loin:
Hotel Ayamitre ( 2 étoiles ) mais très bon rapport qualité/prix
Ayacucho y Bartolome Mitre
Ayacucho 106
Tel/fax: 54- 11- 4953-1655/ 5733 y 6488
petit déj extra avec tout et tout et tout! Le repas du matin qui fait tenir les 3/4 de la journée
e mail: reservas@hotelayamitre.com.ar Site: www.hotelayamitre.com.ar Pour les places je n'en sais rien. Vu l'engouement, cela m'étonnerait que tu puisses avoir des places immédiatement... mais tu peux contacter directement Herge, il te repondra: nuevacocina@yahoo.com.ar
e mail: reservas@hotelayamitre.com.ar Site: www.hotelayamitre.com.ar Pour les places je n'en sais rien. Vu l'engouement, cela m'étonnerait que tu puisses avoir des places immédiatement... mais tu peux contacter directement Herge, il te repondra: nuevacocina@yahoo.com.ar
Nicole
Asso. Les Enfants d'Atacama (aide à la scolarisation dans les Andes Argentines- Prov. de Jujuy: San Juan de Quillaques; Puesto Sey et Huachichocana
Les sites pour jeter un oeil:
http://pagesperso-orange.fr/fal83
http://brondy.free.fr
Salut KBG
Je suis assez d'accord avec micmag, pourquoi s'embêter à louer une voiture alors que l'on peut s'allouer les services de chauffeurs qui connaissent le terrain, savent réagir en cas d'intempéries et nous arrêtent dans les petits coins sympas devant lesquels nous serions benoîtement passés.
De plus ça n'a pas l'air beaucoup plus cher que de louer une voiture.
j'ai gardé les mails de deux chauffeurs, ils connaissent le NOA comme leur poche et sont vraiment en contact avec les locaux ce qui n'est pas inappréciable.
Daniel Masud : danimas5@hotmail.com Avec lui nous avons fait en janvier la boucle "sud de Salta" (Salta - Cachi - Cafayate - Salta), il a intelligemment intégré le "Red de Turismo Campesino" dans son circuit, il s'agit d'un projet mis sur pieds par les paysans des vallées Calchaquies, ils ont 5 maisons d'accueil à partir desquelles vous pouvez rayonner dans les vallées, visiter les artisans, faire des ballades à cheval ou à pieds, voir les sites archéologiques, etc. Une façon "chez l'habitant" d'appréhender cette partie du circuit.
Puis nous avons fait Salta - San antonio de los cobres - Salinas grandes - Pumamarca - Tilcara - Humahuaca - Iruya - Salta avec Ramiro Ragno : ramiroragno@yahoo.com.ar
Je pense qu'il pourra vous donner tous les renseignements utiles pour votre passage en Bolivie.
Il faut bien sur leur écrire en espagnol, si vous avez des problèmes à ce niveau on peut s'arranger, je reste en contact avec eux car j'ai la ferme intention de retourner là bas.
Bons préparatifs Albert rverca@hotmail.com
j'ai gardé les mails de deux chauffeurs, ils connaissent le NOA comme leur poche et sont vraiment en contact avec les locaux ce qui n'est pas inappréciable.
Daniel Masud : danimas5@hotmail.com Avec lui nous avons fait en janvier la boucle "sud de Salta" (Salta - Cachi - Cafayate - Salta), il a intelligemment intégré le "Red de Turismo Campesino" dans son circuit, il s'agit d'un projet mis sur pieds par les paysans des vallées Calchaquies, ils ont 5 maisons d'accueil à partir desquelles vous pouvez rayonner dans les vallées, visiter les artisans, faire des ballades à cheval ou à pieds, voir les sites archéologiques, etc. Une façon "chez l'habitant" d'appréhender cette partie du circuit.
Puis nous avons fait Salta - San antonio de los cobres - Salinas grandes - Pumamarca - Tilcara - Humahuaca - Iruya - Salta avec Ramiro Ragno : ramiroragno@yahoo.com.ar
Je pense qu'il pourra vous donner tous les renseignements utiles pour votre passage en Bolivie.
Il faut bien sur leur écrire en espagnol, si vous avez des problèmes à ce niveau on peut s'arranger, je reste en contact avec eux car j'ai la ferme intention de retourner là bas.
Bons préparatifs Albert rverca@hotmail.com
Bonsoir,
Voyant que vous êtes de bon conseil, je voulais demander si l'un d'entre vous sait comment rejoindre cette région du NOA à Iguaçù? La distance est assez énorme et il semble qu'il n'y ait pas de vol direct (et avec escale à BsAires c'est un peu bête et ça doit être hors de prix).
Aussi nous nous demandons ce qu'il faut emporter contre les maux d'altitude et de transport (à savoir que nous comptons, en 2 mois Faire le circuit: BsAires / Peninsula Valdés / el Calafate (Perito moreno) puis remonter doucement jusqu'à Santiago / San Pedro de Atacama / NOA / Iguaçù et enfin retour à Buenos Aires. Est-ce humainement envisageable (2 âmes de 37 ans pas très sportifs et moi qui suis une grande migraineuse!...). Je commence à me demander si c'est sérieux, et on part après demain... Pourriez vous nous conseiller (même sur un seul de ces points). Merci d'avance. Taina
Aussi nous nous demandons ce qu'il faut emporter contre les maux d'altitude et de transport (à savoir que nous comptons, en 2 mois Faire le circuit: BsAires / Peninsula Valdés / el Calafate (Perito moreno) puis remonter doucement jusqu'à Santiago / San Pedro de Atacama / NOA / Iguaçù et enfin retour à Buenos Aires. Est-ce humainement envisageable (2 âmes de 37 ans pas très sportifs et moi qui suis une grande migraineuse!...). Je commence à me demander si c'est sérieux, et on part après demain... Pourriez vous nous conseiller (même sur un seul de ces points). Merci d'avance. Taina
petit conseil pour buenos aires, si tu veux loger a sant telmo, je peux te conseiller de louer un appartement touristique c´est pas mal et ca permet de planifier tes visites en toute liberté. Et puis c´est plus interessant qu´un hotel, et surement plus propre !!! ;-)
voila un lien qui peut t´interesser, parmi d´autres celui ci est pas trop mal desigbuenosaires.com
au plaisir de te renseigner toulousain !
au plaisir de te renseigner toulousain !
Hello Albert,
En effet, nous avons pris contact avec Daniel..
Sauf... qu'il nous "taxe" de 100 pésos de plus, par jour et par personne, par rapport à ce que tu as payé lors de ta visite... 😛 A mon avis, ce doit être le prix du pétrole..!! 😇
Bref, je crois qu'on va faire jouer la concurrence à Salta..
Bien cordialement.. Stéphane
En effet, nous avons pris contact avec Daniel..
Sauf... qu'il nous "taxe" de 100 pésos de plus, par jour et par personne, par rapport à ce que tu as payé lors de ta visite... 😛 A mon avis, ce doit être le prix du pétrole..!! 😇
Bref, je crois qu'on va faire jouer la concurrence à Salta..
Bien cordialement.. Stéphane
"Y'a pas d'hélice, hélas, c'est là qu'est l'os" (Bourvil dans La Grande Vadrouille)
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Bonjour Stéphane
100 pesos de plus, effectivement ça fait une somme, désolé je ne pouvais pas prévoir ce coup la.
Pour la concurrence essayez de voir avec Ramiro, l'autre chauffeur, il doit aussi faire ce circuit.
Tenez moi au courant si vous voulez, tout cela m'intéresse.
Cordialement, Albert
100 pesos de plus, effectivement ça fait une somme, désolé je ne pouvais pas prévoir ce coup la.
Pour la concurrence essayez de voir avec Ramiro, l'autre chauffeur, il doit aussi faire ce circuit.
Tenez moi au courant si vous voulez, tout cela m'intéresse.
Cordialement, Albert
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We’re heading to Buenos Aires for 3 days in November and would like to do a guided tour of a few neighborhoods. There are "free" tours, but none in French. Does anyone have a guide to recommend so we can really get to know the city beyond just the architecture?
Thanks
Hi there,
I’m desperately looking for info on the schedules and routes of (shared) boats to visit the islands of Lake Titicaca.
From what I’ve found, there’s a *combi* (bus) that leaves from Puno to go to Llachon. Where do you catch it? What are the schedules and frequency? Does it take about 1 hour?
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Hey everyone,
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
hi,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Patagonia for three weeks in November, starting from Coyhaique in Chile.
We won’t have a car, and I’m struggling to find information about transportation options for a few parts of the itinerary we’d like to do:
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
Hi,
we’re planning a round trip from San Pedro de Atacama, Chile, to Salta, Argentina, in two months. On the way there, we’ll take the northern route via Susques, Route 27, then 52. But for the return, we were thinking of taking the southern route via San Antonio de los Cobres, Route 51, then 23. Is it similar to the northern route in terms of road surface? How busy is it, and are there gas stations? Basically, should we be worried about doing it in an SUV that’s supposedly 4x4 but has regular road tires and no second spare wheel, obviously...
I’ve seen that we can stop over in San Antonio de los Cobres.
Thanks for your feedback.
Raf.
Hi,
we’ll be in Calama at the end of March 2026, and I’m looking for a reliable car rental there for a 7-day road trip to Salta, Argentina. But I’m struggling with the car rental agencies in Calama because the reviews can be scary. I saw Gyg, which has great ratings, but I’m a bit wary (5/5 from 59 reviews—either the guy’s amazing or it’s fake...), but I can’t find any recent reviews on VF in general.
For Punta Arenas, I booked with Dachelet and didn’t have any issues with email exchanges.
Thanks in advance.
Raf.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
Good evening,
We’d love to go in November to enjoy some beautiful beaches for about two weeks, preferably around Bahia, as November/December seems like a great time.
We’ve already traveled to Brazil several times and know the south of Rio as well as the region between São Luís and Fortaleza, and Chapada Diamantina...
What advice would you give us: the south with Itaparica, Morro de São Paulo, Boipeba, Barra Grande—or all four? Or maybe the north?
Thanks in advance for your help
Hi everyone, it’s been a while since I last posted!
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
Hi,
During an upcoming trip to Peru, we’ll have one day to explore around Arequipa (excluding Colca Canyon) with a car and driver.
We’ve got a few options:
- Toro Muerto petroglyphs and dinosaur footprints at Querulpa
- Ruta del Sillar and Quebrada de Culebrillas
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
We’re a group of 6 friends with an average age of 70, all mobile, and we’re planning a trip to Peru in September/October 2026. Below is an idea of what we’re looking for: a French-speaking guide, accommodation in 3-star hotels or homestays with comfort.
Duration: 16 to 20 days on-site.
Visit the main sites with immersion in the culture and way of life.
Which francophone agency in Peru would you recommend? Thanks
Hi there!
I’m putting together my itinerary for Brazil, looking for beautiful natural spots with wildlife, flora, and great hikes...
I’ve come across the Cananeia / Super Agui / Ilha do Mel region and the PETAR / Intervales / Alto Ribeira area.
Has anyone here been to these places? If so, do you have any recommendations for accommodations and activities?
Thanks in advance!
Best,
Olivier 🌍
Hello,
I’ll be in ARICA in northern Chile at the end of May 2026 and want to get to TACNA. Are there taxis, buses, or collectivos that run the border crossing route?
After that, bus to AREQUIPA (Peru): any bus company you’d recommend?
I’ll be in ARICA in northern Chile at the end of May 2026 and want to get to TACNA. Are there taxis, buses, or collectivos that run the border crossing route?
After that, bus to AREQUIPA (Peru): any bus company you’d recommend?
Hi there,
We’re spending 3 weeks in Brazil, arriving in São Paulo—a couple plus a teen—and we’ll have a rental car.
We especially love nature: hiking, wildlife watching, birds, etc.
We’re planning to wrap up with a week around Paraty and Ilha Grande.
We’re not really into visiting big cities like São Paulo or Rio unless you think we’d be missing out big time.
So we’ve got 2 weeks to explore the south/southwest region of São Paulo. What do you recommend? National parks? Off-the-beaten-path nature spots? Iguazu Falls?
Thanks in advance for all your tips!
So we’ve got 2 weeks to explore the south/southwest region of São Paulo. What do you recommend? National parks? Off-the-beaten-path nature spots? Iguazu Falls?
Thanks in advance for all your tips!
Hi there,
Do you have any recommendations for comfortable accommodation in Leyva and Barichara? We're also looking for a guide to explore the areas around these two towns (parks, waterfalls, etc.).
Thanks for your tips!
I visited Colombia in January 2016 and I’m heading back from August 6th to 17th with the same airline to see how things have changed. Starting August 18th, I’ll continue with independent exploration. I prefer slow travel and enjoying places at my own pace.
Any tips—especially for getting around or must-see spots—are welcome!
Thu Aug 06. Fly Montreal to Bogotá 20:55-04:05+1 Air Canada Fri Aug 07. Bogotá Sat Aug 08. Bogotá Sun Aug 09. Bogotá Mon Aug 10. Fly Bogotá to Medellín Tue Aug 11. Medellín - Explore Guatapé Wed Aug 12. Comuna 8 & Hill of Values - PM Fly to Pereira Thu Aug 13. Montenegro Fri Aug 14. Salento - Cocora Valley Sat Aug 15. Fly to Cartagena Sun Aug 16. Explore Cartagena Mon Aug 17. Explore Cartagena Tue Aug 18. Fly Cartagena to Cali 12:20-14:55 Latam Wed Aug 19. Cali Thu Aug 20. Cali Fri Aug 21. Cali Sat Aug 22. Bus Cali to Popayán 09:00-13:00 Sun Aug 23. Popayán Mon Aug 24. Popayán Tue Aug 25. Popayán - Day trip to Silvia (Market Day) Wed Aug 26. Overland Popayán to Tierradentro by public transportation 4h, 100km Thu Aug 27. Tierradentro Fri Aug 28. Tierradentro Sat Aug 29. Overland Tierradentro to Garzón via La Plata Sun Aug 30. Bus Garzón to San Agustín 10:30-13:00 Mon Aug 31. San Agustín Tue Sep 01. San Agustín Wed Sep 02. San Agustín Thu Sep 03. San Agustín Fri Sep 04. Overland San Agustín to Tatacoa Desert via Neiva Sat Sep 05. Tatacoa Desert Sun Sep 06. Fly to Bogotá via Neiva 16:00-17:00 Latam Mon Sep 07. Bogotá Tue Sep 08. Fly Bogotá to Montreal 09:00-16:30 Air Canada
Thu Aug 06. Fly Montreal to Bogotá 20:55-04:05+1 Air Canada Fri Aug 07. Bogotá Sat Aug 08. Bogotá Sun Aug 09. Bogotá Mon Aug 10. Fly Bogotá to Medellín Tue Aug 11. Medellín - Explore Guatapé Wed Aug 12. Comuna 8 & Hill of Values - PM Fly to Pereira Thu Aug 13. Montenegro Fri Aug 14. Salento - Cocora Valley Sat Aug 15. Fly to Cartagena Sun Aug 16. Explore Cartagena Mon Aug 17. Explore Cartagena Tue Aug 18. Fly Cartagena to Cali 12:20-14:55 Latam Wed Aug 19. Cali Thu Aug 20. Cali Fri Aug 21. Cali Sat Aug 22. Bus Cali to Popayán 09:00-13:00 Sun Aug 23. Popayán Mon Aug 24. Popayán Tue Aug 25. Popayán - Day trip to Silvia (Market Day) Wed Aug 26. Overland Popayán to Tierradentro by public transportation 4h, 100km Thu Aug 27. Tierradentro Fri Aug 28. Tierradentro Sat Aug 29. Overland Tierradentro to Garzón via La Plata Sun Aug 30. Bus Garzón to San Agustín 10:30-13:00 Mon Aug 31. San Agustín Tue Sep 01. San Agustín Wed Sep 02. San Agustín Thu Sep 03. San Agustín Fri Sep 04. Overland San Agustín to Tatacoa Desert via Neiva Sat Sep 05. Tatacoa Desert Sun Sep 06. Fly to Bogotá via Neiva 16:00-17:00 Latam Mon Sep 07. Bogotá Tue Sep 08. Fly Bogotá to Montreal 09:00-16:30 Air Canada
Hi there,
Three years ago during a trip to Java (no, I didn’t post in the wrong forum!), I came across the address of former miners who had switched to “tourism” and organized nighttime ascents of the Kawah Ijen volcano and descents into the crater.
So I was thinking—maybe there are miners on the salt flats too, either former or still active, who do the same thing. If you’ve had an experience like this, I’d love any tips you can share.
Thanks in advance.
Hi there, since there isn’t much recent info on how to get to MP, I’d love to know if there have been any improvements to the "route" to Hydroelectrica. Is it feasible to drive there in February? And is it still possible to walk all the way to Aguas Calientes? I think I read somewhere that it’s no longer allowed??
Do you think I can buy Machu Picchu entrance tickets last-minute at that time of year, given the weather?
Hello everyone!
A group of friends and I are heading to Brazil in March 2019 and we’d love to attend the Carnival parade. I could really use your help because I’m struggling to find reviews for online ticket sellers for Carnival. I came across rio-carnival—is this a reliable agency? Do you have other agencies to recommend or experiences to share? Any advice is welcome.
Thanks! 🙂 Marine
A group of friends and I are heading to Brazil in March 2019 and we’d love to attend the Carnival parade. I could really use your help because I’m struggling to find reviews for online ticket sellers for Carnival. I came across rio-carnival—is this a reliable agency? Do you have other agencies to recommend or experiences to share? Any advice is welcome.
Thanks! 🙂 Marine
Everything You Need to Know About Argentina’s Currency Exchange Maze (2026 Edition)
Hi fellow travelers,
Packing your bags for Buenos Aires? Watch out—here, money is a science almost as complex as the dance steps in a tango!
As of March 2026, the situation has shifted dramatically: the "Blue" (parallel) rate is now neck-and-neck with the official rate. To save you from losing your hard-earned euros in bureaucratic mazes or "disastrous" exchange rates, I’ve laced up my reporter boots and hit the famous Calle Florida for you.
In my latest video (and the accompanying article), I take you behind the scenes of currency exchange:
Arbolitos and Cuevas: Who are they, and can you still trust them? The Rate Showdown: Why Banco Nación is currently the worst place for your savings. Western Union: Why it’s often your best ally right now. Cash or Card? The little secret to getting an instant 10–15% discount at restaurants or hotels. The Bill Trap: Why your 500 € notes or stained dollars might stay in your wallet.
Argentina changes fast—*very* fast (by the end of March, today’s advice might already be old news!). So don’t leave without checking the market’s pulse.
Check out all my tips in the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKmKFux4fpQ
And remember: in Argentina, don’t exchange money on weekends—unless you want your cash to melt like snow in the sun!
Safe travels, and see you on the road! Hergé
Packing your bags for Buenos Aires? Watch out—here, money is a science almost as complex as the dance steps in a tango!
As of March 2026, the situation has shifted dramatically: the "Blue" (parallel) rate is now neck-and-neck with the official rate. To save you from losing your hard-earned euros in bureaucratic mazes or "disastrous" exchange rates, I’ve laced up my reporter boots and hit the famous Calle Florida for you.
In my latest video (and the accompanying article), I take you behind the scenes of currency exchange:
Arbolitos and Cuevas: Who are they, and can you still trust them? The Rate Showdown: Why Banco Nación is currently the worst place for your savings. Western Union: Why it’s often your best ally right now. Cash or Card? The little secret to getting an instant 10–15% discount at restaurants or hotels. The Bill Trap: Why your 500 € notes or stained dollars might stay in your wallet.
Argentina changes fast—*very* fast (by the end of March, today’s advice might already be old news!). So don’t leave without checking the market’s pulse.
Check out all my tips in the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKmKFux4fpQ
And remember: in Argentina, don’t exchange money on weekends—unless you want your cash to melt like snow in the sun!
Safe travels, and see you on the road! Hergé




