Vol à la tire entre l'aéroport Ezeiza et le centre de Buenos Aires
by Chegringo
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Ce jour un passager se rend de Eizeiza au Centre avec un taxi Tienda Leon. Sur l'autoroute, ils se font arrêter par une patrouille de police en civil et ceux-ci coince le taxi sur le côté. Ces "policiers" détroussent purement et simplement le voyageur.
Ce voyageur venait pour un travail et doit retourner car il se retrouve sans rien.
Soyez prudents; préférez le Bus Tienda Leon où vous êtes en groupe ce qui est préférable.
Prudence, prudence, prudence! Por Favor!
😠
No deje crecer hierba en el camino de la amistad.
"Il y a les vivants, les morts... et ceux qui partent en mer." Victor Hugo.
por favor , si on prend le bus , pouvons nous mettre 4 gros sacs ? ou vaut il mieux prendre un taxi ?
muchas gracias
bonjour
votre message m' inquiete un peu , notre agence de voyage nous a reservé un transfert privé de l' aeroport a notre hotel a votre avis cela est il prudent il nous est difficle de prendre le bus a 6 personnes avec tous les bagages mais notre avion arrive a le soir a 20h50 . pouvez me dire ce que vous en pensé merci
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votre message m' inquiete un peu , notre agence de voyage nous a reservé un transfert privé de l' aeroport a notre hotel a votre avis cela est il prudent il nous est difficle de prendre le bus a 6 personnes avec tous les bagages mais notre avion arrive a le soir a 20h50 . pouvez me dire ce que vous en pensé merci
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salut Chegringo,
J'ai essayé de trouver des infos sur le sujet (la Nación, Clarín, etc ...) rien trouvé. As-tu un lien vers des infos là-dessus ou est-ce trop "frais" encore?
Salut à toi,
Mark, Korke, Chili
J'ai essayé de trouver des infos sur le sujet (la Nación, Clarín, etc ...) rien trouvé. As-tu un lien vers des infos là-dessus ou est-ce trop "frais" encore?
Salut à toi,
Mark, Korke, Chili
Voyages au Chili et en Argentine pour personnes en fauteuil roulant ou avec des difficultés pour marcher sur http://www.korke.com/voyagesaccessiblesamapi.htm
por favor , si on prend le bus , pouvons nous mettre 4 gros sacs ? ou vaut il mieux prendre un taxi ?
muchas gracias
Oui tu peux mettre les sacs dans le bus Tienda Leon (soutes), il y a un systeme de consigne, on te donne un ticket qui correspond à un numéro sur ton sac, à l'arrivée tu le récupères grace à ce ticket.
Nicolas
Oui tu peux mettre les sacs dans le bus Tienda Leon (soutes), il y a un systeme de consigne, on te donne un ticket qui correspond à un numéro sur ton sac, à l'arrivée tu le récupères grace à ce ticket.
Nicolas
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merci nicolas de ta réponse .
le bus de tienda leon , c'est bien , mais il nous laisse au centre à retiro et il faut alors changer pour un van .
bof, bof !!! avec les bagages , ce n'est pas le top !! je verrai sur place
à +
Bonjour, le chauffeur du taxi serait il dans le coup? j'avoue que je n'ai jamais eu de crainte avec les taxi de Tienda Leon, en plus a part un peu de cash que peuvent ils faire avec les cartes de crédit (que l'on annule immédiatement) c'est prendre beaucoup de risques pour pas grand chose, surtout si le client du taxi est un routard .
Hola pour tous,
Tienda Leon est une entreprise sérieuse, elle employe, "apparamment" des "remises" pour faire des trajets taxis. cette information est passée ce matin à la TV et cela s'est passé dans la journée d'hier. La personne était passée pour faire un retrait à la banque de l'aéroport et ensuite avait demandé un taxi, cette personne est Argentine de la Province. Cette info repassera certainement ce soir.
Pour ce qui est des bagages dans le bus, il ne doit pas y avoir de problèmes et demandez à Tienda Leon, s'ils peuvent vous faire le transfert vers votre hôtel.
Pour ce qui est d'un taxi affrété par une agence, je crois qu'il n'y a pas de problèmes non plus car ils se portent garant de ce taxi.
Tout ceci pour vous rappeler d'être prudent à l'aéroport.
Il y a beaucoup à dire sur cette sécurité et je ne terminerais pas ce commentaire pour tout vous dire.
Soyez vigilant! Bon voyage.😐
No deje crecer hierba en el camino de la amistad.
"Il y a les vivants, les morts... et ceux qui partent en mer." Victor Hugo.
Hola Verbatim,
soyez sans craintes et à 6 cela devient déjà plus compliqué mais vous avez une navette privée ce qui est très bien.
Bon voyage😎
No deje crecer hierba en el camino de la amistad.
"Il y a les vivants, les morts... et ceux qui partent en mer." Victor Hugo.
Hola Chegringo,
Les vols ça arrive tous les jours à Buenos Aires et...tiens?... A Paris aussi, et à Nice, à Londres...et partout.
Manuel Tienda Leon est une grosse entreprise qui bosse avec des remis (taxis privés, genre petite limousine privée) avec des chauffeurs en cravatte et chemise blanche et des véhicules toujours tip top. Ce type d'incident est extrêmement rare chez eux. Tous leurs véhicules sont reliés par radio à la centrale en contact permanent.
On ne peut pas en dire autant des taxis où là il y a pas mal à dire. Mais tant qu'on reste sur les radio-taxi un peu propres, ça va plutôt bien. Je sais pas toi, mais moi depuis les années que je vais à Buenos Aires je n'ai jamais eu de problèmes, ni avec MTL, ni avec les taxis . Si, un jour, je suis monté dans un taxi ou le chauffeur était tellement crevé qu'il s'endormait à chaque feu rouge, il était tellement gros et son siège tellement reculé qu'il était presque assis à côté de moi... à l'arrière, le vrai film. Il n'avançait que quand les autres claxonnaient derrière lui. Très marrant, mais en plus il était très sympa, alors... C'est souvent plus folklorique les taxis que dangereux, mais vous aurez jamais de pitbull assis à l'avant comme... où c'était encore... à Paris?
Ce qu'il faut surtout faire attention à Buenos Aires, c'est des chauffeurs de taxi qui tournent autour de l'aéroport et qui remplacent vos billets fraichement échangés contre des faux. Ils sont très forts et des clients à nous se sont fait ainsi échanger plus de 3 billets de 100 pesos par des billets faux (des photocopies couleurs, carrément!). Il prend en fait votre billet, l'échange habilement contre un faux, et vous le refuse... évidemment... il est faux. il commence alors avec vous à inspecter chacun de vos billets et les échanger. Très forts je vous dis! Le comble c'est que la monnaie en billets qu'il a rendu à mes passagers étaient fausse aussi!
Le truc conseillé d'office aux étrangers: avant de remettre un billet à un chauffeur de taxi, lisez les trois derniers numéros du numéro et mémorisez -le. Vous saurez tout de suite si c'est un tricheur!
Bonne route,
Mark, Korke, Chili
Les vols ça arrive tous les jours à Buenos Aires et...tiens?... A Paris aussi, et à Nice, à Londres...et partout.
Manuel Tienda Leon est une grosse entreprise qui bosse avec des remis (taxis privés, genre petite limousine privée) avec des chauffeurs en cravatte et chemise blanche et des véhicules toujours tip top. Ce type d'incident est extrêmement rare chez eux. Tous leurs véhicules sont reliés par radio à la centrale en contact permanent.
On ne peut pas en dire autant des taxis où là il y a pas mal à dire. Mais tant qu'on reste sur les radio-taxi un peu propres, ça va plutôt bien. Je sais pas toi, mais moi depuis les années que je vais à Buenos Aires je n'ai jamais eu de problèmes, ni avec MTL, ni avec les taxis . Si, un jour, je suis monté dans un taxi ou le chauffeur était tellement crevé qu'il s'endormait à chaque feu rouge, il était tellement gros et son siège tellement reculé qu'il était presque assis à côté de moi... à l'arrière, le vrai film. Il n'avançait que quand les autres claxonnaient derrière lui. Très marrant, mais en plus il était très sympa, alors... C'est souvent plus folklorique les taxis que dangereux, mais vous aurez jamais de pitbull assis à l'avant comme... où c'était encore... à Paris?
Ce qu'il faut surtout faire attention à Buenos Aires, c'est des chauffeurs de taxi qui tournent autour de l'aéroport et qui remplacent vos billets fraichement échangés contre des faux. Ils sont très forts et des clients à nous se sont fait ainsi échanger plus de 3 billets de 100 pesos par des billets faux (des photocopies couleurs, carrément!). Il prend en fait votre billet, l'échange habilement contre un faux, et vous le refuse... évidemment... il est faux. il commence alors avec vous à inspecter chacun de vos billets et les échanger. Très forts je vous dis! Le comble c'est que la monnaie en billets qu'il a rendu à mes passagers étaient fausse aussi!
Le truc conseillé d'office aux étrangers: avant de remettre un billet à un chauffeur de taxi, lisez les trois derniers numéros du numéro et mémorisez -le. Vous saurez tout de suite si c'est un tricheur!
Bonne route,
Mark, Korke, Chili
Voyages au Chili et en Argentine pour personnes en fauteuil roulant ou avec des difficultés pour marcher sur http://www.korke.com/voyagesaccessiblesamapi.htm
Hola Dannau,
je suis tout à fait d'accord avec toi et vais , en deux mots, te raconter ma mésaventure et cela remonte à 1994.
Je suis à Eizeiza avec un groupe de 15 personnes et j'ai deux camionnettes taxis pour le transfert vers le centre. A l'arrivée, celà devait faire à peu près 100US$ et je donne un billet de 100US$ (je n'avais que ces coupures avec moi). Celà à été un jeu de passe passe tellement rapide que le chauffeur m'a dit que je l'avais payé avec 10US$. Trop tard, j'ai été eu de 100US$ car lorsque tu as 15 personnes qui t'attendent, c'est vraiment innattendu.
Hier, ce qui choque le plus dans l'histoire c'est que cette personne a été mise en joue avec deux "policiers" et le chauffeur n'a pas bronché.Qu'y avait-il entre le chauffeur et les "policiers"? C'était de "faux policiers"? Un procé verbal fût rédigé par la police et par Tienda Leon.
Alors, tu vois que ce n'est pas simple. A qui se fier?
Enfin, comme tu dis, c'est un peu partout...
Bien à toi, 😎
No deje crecer hierba en el camino de la amistad.
"Il y a les vivants, les morts... et ceux qui partent en mer." Victor Hugo.
Bonjour, c'est pourquoi la solution qui consiste a payer d'avance la course au comptoir de l'aérogare (comme Tienda Leon) est la plus sure, rien a donner au chauffeur (sauf un petit pourboire si on le trouve sympa) donc on ne sort pas son portefeuille en public a l'arrivée.
Bonjour, tu vas dans le sens de mon hypothèse, le chauffeur était peut etre d'accord avec les faux policiers, l'enquète le dira peut etre.J'ai toujours eu des chauffeurs très sérieux et jamais de problème avec cette société de taxi.
Hola Eltopo,
tout à fait d'accord pour le sérieux de la compagnie.😉
No deje crecer hierba en el camino de la amistad.
"Il y a les vivants, les morts... et ceux qui partent en mer." Victor Hugo.
HOLA ! Moi, je n'ai pas fait l'objet d'un vol à la tire néanmoins à EZEIZA, le taxi a négocié le rpix - on s'est mis d'accord sur 50 $ US et au moment de paritr il n'était plus d'accord... On s'est embrouillés et finalement il nous a éjectés du taxi en nous rendant un billet de 10 $ au lieu de celui de 50 $ que je lui avais adonné... Grosse arnaque... ça énerve après 12 heures de vol + le décalage... Mais c'est le seul problème que nous ayons eu en 35 jours de voyage en Argnetine !!!!
DANY
Bonjour Dany,
50 US$ c'est énorme pour un transfert de EZE sur le centre (si c'est bien le centre où vous alliez). C'est le prix généralement pour les remis sur le centre (comme MTL). Sinon un taxi pris directement sur le parvis d'arrivée (c'est un truc d'argentin: on peut prendre les taxis qui arrivent avec des passagers...même si c'est pas vraiment autorisé) se négocient en bon espagnol à 65-80 $ Argentins pour le Microcentro, parfois avec les péages en plus, mais cela ne représente qu'à peine 5 pesos.
Vous êtes sure que c'était 50 US$ et non en pesos argentins? Parce que 50 pesos argentins c'était pas assez, effectivement.
Bonne route,
Mark, Korke, Chili
50 US$ c'est énorme pour un transfert de EZE sur le centre (si c'est bien le centre où vous alliez). C'est le prix généralement pour les remis sur le centre (comme MTL). Sinon un taxi pris directement sur le parvis d'arrivée (c'est un truc d'argentin: on peut prendre les taxis qui arrivent avec des passagers...même si c'est pas vraiment autorisé) se négocient en bon espagnol à 65-80 $ Argentins pour le Microcentro, parfois avec les péages en plus, mais cela ne représente qu'à peine 5 pesos.
Vous êtes sure que c'était 50 US$ et non en pesos argentins? Parce que 50 pesos argentins c'était pas assez, effectivement.
Bonne route,
Mark, Korke, Chili
Voyages au Chili et en Argentine pour personnes en fauteuil roulant ou avec des difficultés pour marcher sur http://www.korke.com/voyagesaccessiblesamapi.htm
Il me semble que la pratique quelques soit le pays, taxi, restaurant etc. etc., on paye après que le service est rendu sinon on se met dans une situation difficile.
OUI, mais c'est pas trop grave : nous n'avons pas réagi à temps car fracassés par le voyage puis les formalités d'entrée... Ce fut le seul incident sur ce voyage merveilleux !!!
DANY
Hola Dannau,
non, elle a bien écris, ce sont des US$.
pour ce qui est des taxis qui viennent, ils ne sont pas autorisés à reprendre des passagers, il y a des gardes qui sont certainement payés pour les faire partir.
C'est pas facile pour le touriste de s'y retrouver.
A+😎
No deje crecer hierba en el camino de la amistad.
"Il y a les vivants, les morts... et ceux qui partent en mer." Victor Hugo.
Bonjour, je ne me souviens plus combien j'ai payé la dernière fois, mais de toute facon c'est moins cher que les taxis parisiens, tu peux payer par carte. Dans le terminal il y a les stands de taxi, et meme accessibles avant de sortir de la zone sous douane (avant de récupérer ta valise).On te demande le nom de l'hotel ou l'adresse et le prix est indiqué en fonction de cela (pas de prix a la tete du client, le barème est écrit noir sur blanc).
Ils te donnent un"voucher" que tu présente au gars qui organise la file de taxis a l'extérieur, c'est rapide et efficace.
Bonjour,
Ce genre d'incident est rarissime et isolé. Mais lorsque les médias en parlent on pense que ca serait quelque chose de fréquent...
Il m'est arrivé plusieurs fois de prendre le taxi pour l'aeroport (toujours prendre un radio-taxi de couleur jaune et noire), il ne m'est jamais rien arrivé.
Dans capital la course se paye à la distance. Pour aller ou venir de l'aeroport, c'est un tarif forfaitaire qui est d'environ 100$ARS (il arrive souvent que les gens fraichement débarqués pensent que " $ " signifie Dollars US alors que non... Dollars US s'écrit U$S en Argentine...).
Demandez toujours le prix de la course avant de monter dans un taxi pour l'aeroport... ca evite des surprises. Et si vous pouvez, faites le en espagnol et pas en anglais.
Le depouillement de touristes en taxi est rare et ne touche que des voyageurs seuls. Si vous avez un doute ou une crainte, prenez les bus Manuel Tienda Leon qui facturent plus ou moins 50pesos le transfert depuis/jusqu'au centre ville.
Le chauffeur de taxi argentin n'arnaque pas forcement plus que le parisien qui refuse que l'on monte à 3, que l'on fasse une course trop courte ou qui appuye sur le champignon pour saler un peu plus la facture finale...
Ce genre d'incident est rarissime et isolé. Mais lorsque les médias en parlent on pense que ca serait quelque chose de fréquent...
Il m'est arrivé plusieurs fois de prendre le taxi pour l'aeroport (toujours prendre un radio-taxi de couleur jaune et noire), il ne m'est jamais rien arrivé.
Dans capital la course se paye à la distance. Pour aller ou venir de l'aeroport, c'est un tarif forfaitaire qui est d'environ 100$ARS (il arrive souvent que les gens fraichement débarqués pensent que " $ " signifie Dollars US alors que non... Dollars US s'écrit U$S en Argentine...).
Demandez toujours le prix de la course avant de monter dans un taxi pour l'aeroport... ca evite des surprises. Et si vous pouvez, faites le en espagnol et pas en anglais.
Le depouillement de touristes en taxi est rare et ne touche que des voyageurs seuls. Si vous avez un doute ou une crainte, prenez les bus Manuel Tienda Leon qui facturent plus ou moins 50pesos le transfert depuis/jusqu'au centre ville.
Le chauffeur de taxi argentin n'arnaque pas forcement plus que le parisien qui refuse que l'on monte à 3, que l'on fasse une course trop courte ou qui appuye sur le champignon pour saler un peu plus la facture finale...
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Hi everyone, French travelers in Chile—what credit cards do you use for your various car rentals in the country? I’m traveling in September and was planning to switch my regular debit card (a VISA PREMIER in deferred debit mode) for the deposit guarantee.
My rentals are with Figal in Punta Arenas, Econautos in Arica, and Chilean Rent a Car in Temuco, and all of them want the deposit on a credit card. For me, deferred debit *should* work, but I’ve read comments saying the opposite.
How’s it actually working on the ground with these rental companies right now? Will a deferred debit card work, or not at all?
In France, banks don’t issue credit cards, right—or am I mistaken?
Thanks for your help!
My rentals are with Figal in Punta Arenas, Econautos in Arica, and Chilean Rent a Car in Temuco, and all of them want the deposit on a credit card. For me, deferred debit *should* work, but I’ve read comments saying the opposite.
How’s it actually working on the ground with these rental companies right now? Will a deferred debit card work, or not at all?
In France, banks don’t issue credit cards, right—or am I mistaken?
Thanks for your help!
Hi everyone, is it still possible to travel in Ecuador outside the Amazon region? If so, do you have a reliable agency to recommend? All your recent experiences from the past few months would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much
Hi,
We’re heading to Buenos Aires for 3 days in November and would like to do a guided tour of a few neighborhoods. There are "free" tours, but none in French. Does anyone have a guide to recommend so we can really get to know the city beyond just the architecture?
Thanks
Hi there,
I’m desperately looking for info on the schedules and routes of (shared) boats to visit the islands of Lake Titicaca.
From what I’ve found, there’s a *combi* (bus) that leaves from Puno to go to Llachon. Where do you catch it? What are the schedules and frequency? Does it take about 1 hour?
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Hey everyone,
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
hi,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Patagonia for three weeks in November, starting from Coyhaique in Chile.
We won’t have a car, and I’m struggling to find information about transportation options for a few parts of the itinerary we’d like to do:
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
Hi,
we’re planning a round trip from San Pedro de Atacama, Chile, to Salta, Argentina, in two months. On the way there, we’ll take the northern route via Susques, Route 27, then 52. But for the return, we were thinking of taking the southern route via San Antonio de los Cobres, Route 51, then 23. Is it similar to the northern route in terms of road surface? How busy is it, and are there gas stations? Basically, should we be worried about doing it in an SUV that’s supposedly 4x4 but has regular road tires and no second spare wheel, obviously...
I’ve seen that we can stop over in San Antonio de los Cobres.
Thanks for your feedback.
Raf.
Hi,
we’ll be in Calama at the end of March 2026, and I’m looking for a reliable car rental there for a 7-day road trip to Salta, Argentina. But I’m struggling with the car rental agencies in Calama because the reviews can be scary. I saw Gyg, which has great ratings, but I’m a bit wary (5/5 from 59 reviews—either the guy’s amazing or it’s fake...), but I can’t find any recent reviews on VF in general.
For Punta Arenas, I booked with Dachelet and didn’t have any issues with email exchanges.
Thanks in advance.
Raf.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
Good evening,
We’d love to go in November to enjoy some beautiful beaches for about two weeks, preferably around Bahia, as November/December seems like a great time.
We’ve already traveled to Brazil several times and know the south of Rio as well as the region between São Luís and Fortaleza, and Chapada Diamantina...
What advice would you give us: the south with Itaparica, Morro de São Paulo, Boipeba, Barra Grande—or all four? Or maybe the north?
Thanks in advance for your help
Hi everyone, it’s been a while since I last posted!
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
Hi,
During an upcoming trip to Peru, we’ll have one day to explore around Arequipa (excluding Colca Canyon) with a car and driver.
We’ve got a few options:
- Toro Muerto petroglyphs and dinosaur footprints at Querulpa
- Ruta del Sillar and Quebrada de Culebrillas
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
We’re a group of 6 friends with an average age of 70, all mobile, and we’re planning a trip to Peru in September/October 2026. Below is an idea of what we’re looking for: a French-speaking guide, accommodation in 3-star hotels or homestays with comfort.
Duration: 16 to 20 days on-site.
Visit the main sites with immersion in the culture and way of life.
Which francophone agency in Peru would you recommend? Thanks
Hi there!
I’m putting together my itinerary for Brazil, looking for beautiful natural spots with wildlife, flora, and great hikes...
I’ve come across the Cananeia / Super Agui / Ilha do Mel region and the PETAR / Intervales / Alto Ribeira area.
Has anyone here been to these places? If so, do you have any recommendations for accommodations and activities?
Thanks in advance!
Best,
Olivier 🌍
Hello,
I’ll be in ARICA in northern Chile at the end of May 2026 and want to get to TACNA. Are there taxis, buses, or collectivos that run the border crossing route?
After that, bus to AREQUIPA (Peru): any bus company you’d recommend?
I’ll be in ARICA in northern Chile at the end of May 2026 and want to get to TACNA. Are there taxis, buses, or collectivos that run the border crossing route?
After that, bus to AREQUIPA (Peru): any bus company you’d recommend?
Hi there,
We’re spending 3 weeks in Brazil, arriving in São Paulo—a couple plus a teen—and we’ll have a rental car.
We especially love nature: hiking, wildlife watching, birds, etc.
We’re planning to wrap up with a week around Paraty and Ilha Grande.
We’re not really into visiting big cities like São Paulo or Rio unless you think we’d be missing out big time.
So we’ve got 2 weeks to explore the south/southwest region of São Paulo. What do you recommend? National parks? Off-the-beaten-path nature spots? Iguazu Falls?
Thanks in advance for all your tips!
So we’ve got 2 weeks to explore the south/southwest region of São Paulo. What do you recommend? National parks? Off-the-beaten-path nature spots? Iguazu Falls?
Thanks in advance for all your tips!
Hi there,
Do you have any recommendations for comfortable accommodation in Leyva and Barichara? We're also looking for a guide to explore the areas around these two towns (parks, waterfalls, etc.).
Thanks for your tips!
I visited Colombia in January 2016 and I’m heading back from August 6th to 17th with the same airline to see how things have changed. Starting August 18th, I’ll continue with independent exploration. I prefer slow travel and enjoying places at my own pace.
Any tips—especially for getting around or must-see spots—are welcome!
Thu Aug 06. Fly Montreal to Bogotá 20:55-04:05+1 Air Canada Fri Aug 07. Bogotá Sat Aug 08. Bogotá Sun Aug 09. Bogotá Mon Aug 10. Fly Bogotá to Medellín Tue Aug 11. Medellín - Explore Guatapé Wed Aug 12. Comuna 8 & Hill of Values - PM Fly to Pereira Thu Aug 13. Montenegro Fri Aug 14. Salento - Cocora Valley Sat Aug 15. Fly to Cartagena Sun Aug 16. Explore Cartagena Mon Aug 17. Explore Cartagena Tue Aug 18. Fly Cartagena to Cali 12:20-14:55 Latam Wed Aug 19. Cali Thu Aug 20. Cali Fri Aug 21. Cali Sat Aug 22. Bus Cali to Popayán 09:00-13:00 Sun Aug 23. Popayán Mon Aug 24. Popayán Tue Aug 25. Popayán - Day trip to Silvia (Market Day) Wed Aug 26. Overland Popayán to Tierradentro by public transportation 4h, 100km Thu Aug 27. Tierradentro Fri Aug 28. Tierradentro Sat Aug 29. Overland Tierradentro to Garzón via La Plata Sun Aug 30. Bus Garzón to San Agustín 10:30-13:00 Mon Aug 31. San Agustín Tue Sep 01. San Agustín Wed Sep 02. San Agustín Thu Sep 03. San Agustín Fri Sep 04. Overland San Agustín to Tatacoa Desert via Neiva Sat Sep 05. Tatacoa Desert Sun Sep 06. Fly to Bogotá via Neiva 16:00-17:00 Latam Mon Sep 07. Bogotá Tue Sep 08. Fly Bogotá to Montreal 09:00-16:30 Air Canada
Thu Aug 06. Fly Montreal to Bogotá 20:55-04:05+1 Air Canada Fri Aug 07. Bogotá Sat Aug 08. Bogotá Sun Aug 09. Bogotá Mon Aug 10. Fly Bogotá to Medellín Tue Aug 11. Medellín - Explore Guatapé Wed Aug 12. Comuna 8 & Hill of Values - PM Fly to Pereira Thu Aug 13. Montenegro Fri Aug 14. Salento - Cocora Valley Sat Aug 15. Fly to Cartagena Sun Aug 16. Explore Cartagena Mon Aug 17. Explore Cartagena Tue Aug 18. Fly Cartagena to Cali 12:20-14:55 Latam Wed Aug 19. Cali Thu Aug 20. Cali Fri Aug 21. Cali Sat Aug 22. Bus Cali to Popayán 09:00-13:00 Sun Aug 23. Popayán Mon Aug 24. Popayán Tue Aug 25. Popayán - Day trip to Silvia (Market Day) Wed Aug 26. Overland Popayán to Tierradentro by public transportation 4h, 100km Thu Aug 27. Tierradentro Fri Aug 28. Tierradentro Sat Aug 29. Overland Tierradentro to Garzón via La Plata Sun Aug 30. Bus Garzón to San Agustín 10:30-13:00 Mon Aug 31. San Agustín Tue Sep 01. San Agustín Wed Sep 02. San Agustín Thu Sep 03. San Agustín Fri Sep 04. Overland San Agustín to Tatacoa Desert via Neiva Sat Sep 05. Tatacoa Desert Sun Sep 06. Fly to Bogotá via Neiva 16:00-17:00 Latam Mon Sep 07. Bogotá Tue Sep 08. Fly Bogotá to Montreal 09:00-16:30 Air Canada
Hi there,
Three years ago during a trip to Java (no, I didn’t post in the wrong forum!), I came across the address of former miners who had switched to “tourism” and organized nighttime ascents of the Kawah Ijen volcano and descents into the crater.
So I was thinking—maybe there are miners on the salt flats too, either former or still active, who do the same thing. If you’ve had an experience like this, I’d love any tips you can share.
Thanks in advance.
Hi there, since there isn’t much recent info on how to get to MP, I’d love to know if there have been any improvements to the "route" to Hydroelectrica. Is it feasible to drive there in February? And is it still possible to walk all the way to Aguas Calientes? I think I read somewhere that it’s no longer allowed??
Do you think I can buy Machu Picchu entrance tickets last-minute at that time of year, given the weather?
Hello everyone!
A group of friends and I are heading to Brazil in March 2019 and we’d love to attend the Carnival parade. I could really use your help because I’m struggling to find reviews for online ticket sellers for Carnival. I came across rio-carnival—is this a reliable agency? Do you have other agencies to recommend or experiences to share? Any advice is welcome.
Thanks! 🙂 Marine
A group of friends and I are heading to Brazil in March 2019 and we’d love to attend the Carnival parade. I could really use your help because I’m struggling to find reviews for online ticket sellers for Carnival. I came across rio-carnival—is this a reliable agency? Do you have other agencies to recommend or experiences to share? Any advice is welcome.
Thanks! 🙂 Marine