Je me rends au Cambodge en novembre (je pense), j'ai lu que le mieux pour visiter les temples d'Angkor était le tuk-tuk, mais j'aurais bien aimé le faire à vélo ou à pied pour être plus libre, est-ce que certains parmi vous qui l'ont fait ? Est-ce si vraiment galère que ce que l'on dit (bus de touristes de tous les côtés, etc...), est-ce qu'il existe peut-être des routes moins fréquentées, moins touristiques etc....
Je ne peux quand on parle d'Angkor replacer mon petit texte écrit sur place apres ma visite de 3 jours à vélo bien sur sous un message intitulà vélo
Ne pas voir Angkor c'est horrible?
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Angkor, une seconde mort - Siem Reap, 16 novembre 2005
Si, lorsque l'on vous parle de la cité antique d'Angkor, il vous vient a l'esprit les images des photographes/voyageurs (McCurry, Riboud ou autre Manset) gardez en la magie au fond de vous et ne venez pas a Angkor vous risqueriez de briser un rêve.
Car l'envers (j'allais écrire l'enfer) du décor a de quoi traumatiser le plus doux des rêveurs (non je n'allais pas écrire raveurs).
Comme des hordes de sauvages, comme des hardes d'envahiseurs des milliers de touristes déferlent dès avant l'aube en rangs serrés, en cris confus et en gestes hardis dans ce cimetiere de 6 siècles de civilisation. Ils y viennent, ces nouveaux barbares en Asie, comme ils vont à Disneyland ou au stade. L'important est d'être sur la photo quelque soit le décor. L'important est d'être au lever ou au coucher du soleil à l'endroit marqué sur le plan comme à Ibiza ou à Goa, comme au Bromo ou au Fuji Yama.
Tout comme pour Capri, Angkor c'est fini et le pire reste encore (j'allais écrire Angkor) à venir. Ici ou ailleurs d'ailleurs.
Et puis tant que j'y suis voici un résumé pratique de mon voyage au Cambodge
Novembre 2005 - Cambodge
Jour 1 (10 Nov 2005) : arrivée à Aranyapratet avec le train quittant Banbkok à 5h55 mais pris vers 7h30-8h00 à mi-chemin. Tuktuk 50B pour la frontiere. Visa 1000B. Taxi à 4 pour Siem Reap 2000B (on s'est fait avoir, prix plus "correct" 1400-1500B - A mon avis il ne faut pas accepter de prendre une navette "gratuite" jusqu'à un "bus/taxi terminal" car c'est en fait une agence de voyage mais une fois là on était piégé) trajet 5h sur une "route/piste" digne du Paris-Dakkar. Mom's G.H. 7$ fan/sdb/tv/FRIGO tres calme, recommandé Jour 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 et 7 : séjour Siem Reap, visite Angkor 3 jours 40$ (cf mon message "Angkor, une seconde mort") + flanerie en vélo (1, 5$/jour, trop cher prix correct 1$) dans les environs. Jour 8 : bateau pour Batambang 12$ avec pick up à l'aller et à l'arrivée inclus. Hotel Royal 6$ sdb/fan/tv correct Jour 9 : flanerie en vélo (5000R/jour, pas facile à trouver) autour de Batambang. Tres agréable. Jour 10 : bus pour PP 4$ trajet 6h. Narin1 G.H. 5$ sdb/fan/tv correct Jour 11 et 12 : séjour PP et flanerie en vélo (1$/jour) dans la ville Jour 13 : bus pour Kampot 3$ trajet 4h. Orchid G.H. 5$ sdb/fan correct Jour 14 et 15 : flanerie en vélo (1$/jour) Jour 16 : taxi partagé à 3 6$/personne pour Sianoukville trajet 1h45. Sakal G.H. 3$ sdb/fan +- correct jour 17 : flanerie en vélo mountain bike (7000R/jour) Jour 18 : bateau pour Koh Kong 15$ avec pick up au départ. Otto's G.H. 120B fan +- correct Jour 19 : motodop vers la frontiere (12km) 70B camionette pour Trat 110B trajet 1h20
"Nous ne sommes plus une communauté d'être humains qui se parlent mais un conglomérat de grappes de consommateurs en niches, séparés les uns des autres par des obsessions diverses et innombrables. Nous sommes de l'ère de la désintégration." Marc Moulin (1942-2008) in Humoeurs
J ai visite les temples a velo. A pieds les distances sont longues et meme en velo ca fait de sacrees trottes.. j ai visite les temples deux jours a velo, en prenant mon temps, le dernier jour j avais loue les services d un chauffeur a moto pour voir les temples les plus eloignes et revoir mon temple favori.
J y suis allee il y a deux ans, si ca n a pas changé, les routes sont excellentes, plates et pas bouchonnees, loin de la. c est meme tres agreable de rouler a l ombre des allees, le rythme du velo permet de s impregner de la beaute de la nature je trouve. J y etais aussi en novembre, il y a eu des restes de mousson d ailleurs, prends ton kway. Et si tu vois les cambodgiens sortir leurs baches, fonces dans un restau...
C est tellement sublime les temples d Angkor... tu vas te regaler, promis
Concernant l'hyper fréquentation d'Angkor, je te renvoie à cette discussion où le sujet était également abordé, en photos :
http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=1211438;#1211438
Certains trouvent que ne pas faire appel aux tuk-tuk pour leur permettre de gagner leur vie est "égoïste". Bah, je réponds qu'en vadrouillant de l'aube au coucher du soleil sur nos montures, nous faisons vivre d'autres personnes, tout simplement... car il fait faim et soif sous le chaud soleil du Cambodge 😉
Hello ! J'ai visité le Cambodge il y a 4 ans (mois d'aout) et je n'y ai croisé aucun occidental sauf à Angkor (et bon, il n'y avait pas foule...) Bon, visiblement cela semble avoir changé. Lorsque j'y étais je me suis déplacée en vélo, le top pour moi !
Par contre on partait trés tôt le matin, le site ouvrant à 6 h du mat on y était ! Bon, c'était fatigant et gaffe à l'insolation car à partir de 10 h du mat ça chauffe.
Je n'ai pas souvenir d'une circulation trés traumatisante, sauf à siem reap où c'est l'affluence aux heures de pointe ! gare aux fesses ! Un conseil prends ton pass pour le site en fin d'après midi (16 ou 17 h je crois) la veille du jour où tu démarres la visite, gain de temps et comme ça tu peux y aller dés l'ouverture !
Le tuk tuk j'avais trouvé utile pour visiter les lieux éloignés (rivière aux milles lingas entre autres)N.
Avant le 15 nov, pas encore trop de monde, mais risque de pluies journalières l'après-midi. Et ça rince !
Après le 15 nov, les pluies cessent mais les bus arrivent ... . Dès 6h00 du mat une file ininterrompue de vélos, motos, tuktuks, 4x4, bus, etc, se hâte, que dis-je, se précipite vers les temples ... . En partant à 5h00 tu devrais mieux passer, et rentrer en milieu d'AM.
Pour visiter les temples, le mieux c'est le tuktuk, on ne perd pas de temps en déplacements. De plus le chauffeur te dépose à un endroit, toi tu visites et tu traverses le site, le chauffeur te récupère à l'autre bout.
Par contre c'est vrai que c'est sûrement génial de se promener à vélo, alors pas pour visiter, juste pour flâner ... . Presque personne sur les chemins de campagne, mais c'est en dehors des circuits des temples, faut connaitre ! Là ça devient extraordinaire.
On y etait y'a pile 1 an en fevrier.
Il y a bien qq gros bus venus décharger des shorts casquettes, mais franchement ca ne cree pas des bouchons ou meme une circulation desagreable pour les velos.
Pour la question, tout faire à pied, hors de question bien sur ! Bien trop grand, bien trop de km a faire entre les differents temples (meme les proches).
On est tres velo, mais on se disait sur place que le velo etait quand meme pas l'ideal. Si grosse chaleur, la journee est rude, car on arrete pas de pedaler entre les temples, et on arrete pas de marcher dans les temples. Car pour info, il faut laisser son velo a l'entree des temples, et dans un temple, y'a pas mal de marche pour certains !
De plus, quand on a un tuktuk ou motodop qui nous attend, il va souvent nous attendre a la sortie opposée du temple. Ca permet de le visiter de part et d'autre, dans un seul sens, sans avoir a tout refaire en sens inverse pour aller rechercher le velo, et faire le tour par la route. A ne pas negliger !
Bref, pour moi, le velo se concoit si on a prevu de passer du temps sur les sites, histoire de pas speeder, et de prendre le temps de s'impregner. Donc si le but est de voir pas mal de temples avec un pass 3 jours, ben je trouve ca bien trop juste en velo.
Avec un tuktuk, on reste assez libre, on definit le trajet au jour le jour, on peut revenir a certains endroits a d'autres heures, le tuktuk est embauché à la journee complete, et il va où on veut, il peut meme nous ramener en ville dans la journee, pour retourner aux temples en fin d'apres midi par exemple. En plus, ils nous proposent parfois des choses qu'on aurait faut differemment. Meme sans etre guides, et meme sans parler super bien anglais, ils peuvent etre utiles pour les visites.
Bref, je vote tuktuk ou motodop de mon cite 😉
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Le velo, c'est pas mal, ...ca depand de la saison. En avril, quand il fait super chaud, cest dur! Le tuk tuk, c'est rafraichissant, ca fait ventilation. En velo, on peut passer par des petits chemins, ...sableux des fois, petits villages, cela donne un appercu beaucop plus local. Les touristes, ca depand la saison je crois...sur mes photos, ...il n'y a jamais personne...il suffit d'un peu de patience et d'attendre parfois que le monde soit passe. C'est a Angkor, il y a 3 ans que j'ai vecu de belles experiences avec le Bouddha. En debut de journee, tous les groupes de touristes etaient tres bruyants et tres bavards, ...puis au fil de la journee, contemplant des milliers et des milliers de Bouddhas, de stupas...de shivalingam....peu a peu, ...le silence enveloppait les derniers au coucher du soleil, ......le pas se faisait beaucoup plus lent et.....s'assoir un moment prolonge pour contempler des sculptures sur un fonds de jungle.....devenait incontournable.
Quelque soit ton choix, des touristes tu en verras sur le site...un peu moins quand tu visiteras les temples les plus éloignés. Vélo ou tuk tuk ? Pour moi c'est une question de moyen, un tuk tuk pour la journée se négocie vers 15 dol (+ ou - selon la distance), s'il pleut c'est mieux que le vélo et pour nous occidentaux il y a un peu de fantaisie asiatique...si tu es juste financierement le vélo ou la moto seront mieux adaptés. Parfois les distances sont importantes et en vélo tu peux perdre un peu de temps mais en contre partie tu peux aussi prendre le temps de respirer l'air d'Angkor.
Si tu peux rester 7 jours c'est mieux.😎
Certains trouvent que ne pas faire appel aux tuk-tuk pour leur permettre de gagner leur vie est "égoïste".
Parce que les vélos ne se louent pas ? Ça profite forcément à quelqu'un...
Sinon pour répondre à la question de départ : pareil que tout le monde, je dirais vélo car les distances à parcourir sont parfois longues entre les temples, et puis aussi c'est plus sympa, non ?
Nous ont avait payé un un gars en mobilette (mais bon, faut pas être gros quoi 😛). Je ne me rappelle pas du tout du prix proposé, mais ça devait être super cheap pour qu'on ait préféré cette option au vélo (ou alors on avait particulièrement la flemme, mais je penche plus pour la version sou-sous, sinon mon nom n'est plus radinette !)
On avait visité en Angkor en pleine période du SARS, il y a 5 ans. Pas un chat. Quand on fini par Angkor Vat, on devait être tout au plus 5 pèlerins dans le temple. Pour le coup c'était FRANCHEMENT impressionnant.
Je me souviens qu'à l'époque (nous traversions toute l'ASE), on avait décidé de ne pas faire Angkor pour quelques raisons obscures...puis finalement on a changé d'avis et heureusement, car c'est l'un des plus beaux sites au monde sans doute aucun, et certainement l'une des plus belles et des plus impressionnantes choses que j'ai jamais eu l'occasion de voir. Après Angkor, ceci dit, tes exigences se revoient nettement à la hausse et très peu de sites à tes yeux arrivent à rivaliser de magnificence...c'est un peu le revers de la médaille 😛
Si c'est être plus libre ton objectif, opte effectivement plutôt pour le moto-dop ou le tuk-tuk qui présentent le grand luxe de s'arrêter ou tu veux quand tu veux et de t'attendre ou tu veux et tant que tu veux! Et en plus, il connait la route... Et parfois les trucs pour éviter la foule.
Quant a la foule, le tout est de l'éviter.
J'étais a Angkor pendant les "nuits d'Angkor" (festival de danse organise a Angkor wat par l'alliance française), un week-end de pleine saison (février), j'ai fais le tour des temples les plus visites et pourtant, j'ai pu apprécier sereinement et prendre des photos sans personne dessus... Je crois que pour cela, il ne faut surtout pas commencer a 6h du mat comme tout le monde... en tout cas, c'est ce que j'ai fais: j'y suis allé pépère en fin de matinée et ais vadrouille jusqu'à la nuit tombée. J'ai bien croise quelques groupes, mais suffisamment peu pour pouvoir les éviter facilement.
Je pense aussi que ça vaut le coup d'y passer trois jours au moins. C'est un lieu magique, vraiment (surtout quand on se retrouve seul dans les ruines en fin de journée)...
Si tu es seule, je pense que le mieux c est une moto avec chauffeur. En aout derner je suis restee 6 jours a Angkor avec le meme chauffeur et j ai jongle pour eviter la foule. Il faut faire le contraire de ce que fait la foule. Te te renseignes. Si les sud coreens, les touristes le plus nombreux a Angkor, visitent un temple a l aube tu y vas le soir et vice versa. A partir de 16 h la plupart des temples sont deserts, sauf celui auquel on peut aller a dos d elephant pour aller voir le coucher de soleil su Angkor Vat, j ai oublie son nom. Tous les groupes y vont donc on est tranquille ailleurs. Les groupes ne restent que 2 ou 3 jours, si tu restes plus longtemps, tu peux mieux t organiser et les eviter.
sans hésitation aucune: à bicyclette!!!!!!
J'ai visité Angkor fin décembre 2006, une période très touristique, et il n'y avait pas tant de touristes que ça!!!! Faut dire que le site d'Angkor est tellement étendu, que effectivement ca ne bouchonnait pas. A pied ca me semble long et périlleux, après tout dépend combien de temps tu comptes rester.
Site vraiment exceptionnel, ou la nature a repris ses droits et, meme s'il y a quelques touristes, le site reste presque "sauvage" (bon ok, je ne parle pas des principaux temples tres prisés).
Vraiment, tu vas te régaler!!!!!
Bon trip
Viv😎
Lorsque le dernier arbre sera abattu, le dernier poisson sera pêché et la dernière rivière poluée, alors l'Homme réalisera que l'argent ne se mange pas...
Comme tout le monde, à vélo ou en tuk tuk, à pied c'est impensable!
location d'un vélo, je ne connais pas le prix, un tuk tuk c'est $12 soit 8, 4 euros
franchement ça vaut le coup car tu pourras aller quasiment où tu veux sauf les temples les + éloignés comme Roluos ou Banteay (qui vallent le coup), là il faut le taxi.
expé de février 2008
Il n'y a d'homme plus complet que celui qui a beaucoup voyagé, qui a changé vingt fois la forme de sa pensée et de sa vie.
Alphonse de Lamartine.
Je suis allée au Cambodge il y a 3 ans et je viens d'y retourner. Il y a beaucoup de touristes maintenant sur les sites...A pieds, c'est impossible, mais en vélo, pas de problème mais il fait chaud! Tu peux essayer et si c'est trop pénible, tu peux tenter le tuc tuc. Bon voyage!
salut,
les distances sont importantes à Angkor, la taille de Paris, et entre chaque site il n'y a pas grand chose à voir hormis au nord Est où se trouve des villages.
Par contre le centre d'angkor autour du Bayon regorge de temples. Le mieux à mon sens c'est de visiter en taxi-moto les différents site de la ville et de se réserver une journée entière pour se ballader à pied autour du Bayon et voir les différents temples au cein de l'enceinte d'Angkor tohm.
les tuk tuk sont en général pour 2 adultes et 1 guide si on en a choisi 1
sinon, il y a 2 banquettes, 2 adultes et 3 enfants (pas trop grands) doivent pouvoir s'y installer.
Il n'y a d'homme plus complet que celui qui a beaucoup voyagé, qui a changé vingt fois la forme de sa pensée et de sa vie.
Alphonse de Lamartine.
On etait 2 adultes et 2 filles de 5 et 7 ans.
Y'a largement de quoi mettre un troisieme enfant dans le tuktuk (d'ailleurs notre chauffeur avait pris une petite fille cambodgienne de 10 ans sur un trajet).
Pour l'anecdote, a la fin de nos 3 jours de visites, notre chauffeur avait acheté des petits bonbons a nos filles en guise d'aurevoir 🙂
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Namast Web - Après 8 ans d'absence en Asie, retour en famille à partir de 2006 (Thailande, Cambodge, Vietnam, Maroc, Jordanie, Chili, Bali, Inde)
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Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur
Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral.
Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo).
Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok:
* Orangutan Center
* Malayan Sun Bear Center
* Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan.
Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari.
Jungle walk.
Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari.
Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port.
Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar
5 full days.
* Snorkeling
* Hiking
* Turtle watching
* Wild beaches
* Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland.
Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali.
And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people!
So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops):
- 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud
2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa)
1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...)
- 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces)
- 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai
- 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed)
- 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island)
- 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan)
- 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels.
Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?)
Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?)
Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027:
- Phnom Penh
- Kampong Cham
- Kratie
- Siem Reap
- Battambang
- Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights.
Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above.
Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you?
If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations:
We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights:
The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1:
We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2:
This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3:
With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4:
Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings.
We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops.
In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5:
Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6:
This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8:
Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10:
On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12:
We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines.
Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment.
We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15:
From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP).
We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning.
We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise.
Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16:
We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town.
It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view.
We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise.
In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911.
On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city.
We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17:
Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning.
Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in.
The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances:
In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary:
Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional.
Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips:
Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred.
PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront).
Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
