Tout d'abord un grand merci à tous ceux qui m'ont répondu lors de la préparation de notre périple de 5 semaines(1er juillet au 4 aout) Namibie et Botswana, nous sommes rentrés émerveilles de ce que nous avons vu et vécu lors de ce voyage !
Pourquoi ce titre: Fully BOOK ?
Et bien tout simplement pour rassurer tous ceux qui s'apprêtent à partir à la découverte de ces pays et qui commme nous, n'ont pas réussi à reserver avant de partir leur emplacements de camping.
Prévoir un itinéraire pointu avec dates fixes c'est dur !
Ce "fully book" résone encore dans mes oreilles !!!!! C'est le même refrain à chaque entrée !!!!
Et bien nous(nous étions 3 4X4 avec tente de toit : 6 adults & 1 enf) avons pu dormir aux camps site du Kalahari, Moremi, Savute, Chobe, Etosha et Sesriem sans probleme !
A Ihaha il était soit disant Fully book, la nuit arrivée, seulement 3 emplacements étaient occupés !!!!
Même à l'entrée ils vous disent que c'est "Fully book", nous avons appris que les gros "tour opérator" reservaient (bloquaient des places) sans accompte, donc ceci explique cela !!!
Donc ceux qui n'ont pas de résa, allez y présentez vous au camp site.... ils vous trouveront de la place !!!
Sinon, c'est magique, particulièrement Moremi Chobe : Xakanaxa, Third Bridge et Ihaha!!!
A Etosha, nous avons vu énormément d'animaux y compris rhino, lions et lionnes, mais il perd de son authenticité, il fait trop parc animalier, nous avons largement préféré le Moremi, où nous comptons revenir d'ailleurs !
Nos Regrets: nous sommes arrivée à Kasane un week end et le survol des Chutes Victoria était "fully book"! de ne pas avoir fait Epupa Fall ne pas avoir acheté nos souvenirs avant notre retour sur Prétoria et Johannesburdg, moins de choix et bien plus cher! ne pas avoir prévu plus de vêtements chauds, car la nuit tombée il fait glacial!
Nous avons eu jusqu'à -2°C !!! N'hésitez pas à prendre des gants un bonnet et duvet bien chaud !
Si besoin de renseignements n'hésitez pas, bien que je m'absente jusqu'au vendredi 10,
Bonne semaine à tous
Patricia
D'un voyage il ne doit rester que 3 choses: les souvenirs, les images...et l'envie de repartir !
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Même à l'entrée ils vous disent que c'est "Fully book", nous avons appris que les gros "tour opérator" reservaient (bloquaient des places) sans accompte, donc ceci explique cela !!!
Je confirme ce qui vient d'etre dire. Les Tours operateur réservent plus des 3/4 du camping d'Etosha et ne préviennent pas le parc si ils ont des réservations ou non. Voila pourquoi on vous dit que c'est complet alors que cela ne l'ai pas. J'ai eu cela à Halali ou où sur le camping soit disant complet, nous etions SEULS !! Bon, il ne faut pas hesitez à faire plusieurs réservations au NWR sous des noms différents aussi. Certains employés sont soit plus sympas, soit moins compétants que d'autres, ce qui fait que des places peuvent etre donné alors que 'lon vous refusait la meme résa 2 jurs plus tot.
Mon carnet de route pour la Namibie
Mon carnet de route pour le Japon (en construction)
Merci pour ce message encourageant! Nous sommes actuellement en Namibie pour 3 semaines. Pour etosha, nous avons eu les places par namibia reservations. Mais pour moremi, on nous dit que c est complet... donc on passera demander!!! Sur ce on continue notre periple commence au Cap. Quelle chaleur ces jours ci!
bonjour patricia,
je pars au botswana 1 mois mi septembre et ce que tu dis a propos des camping me rassure un peu! en effet nous sommes 2 et nous voulons faire notre voyage en camping mais impossible de reserver!! le seule fois ou on a recu une reponse du departement of wildlife and national parks c'était por nous dire: fully booked!! nous voulons faire makgadikgadi pan, nxai pan, chobe, moremi, le delta, tsodillo hills, shakawe et le kalahari. peux tu me donner plus de details sur les camping? (avez vous toujours trouvé de la place? prix?...) avez vous fait le delta interieur? merci beaucoup, a bientot, géraldine
merci pour ta reponse, tu as l'air de bien connaitre le botswana! je viens de m'inscrire sur le forum et j'ai lu qqes infos que tu as donnés a d'autres!! si j'avais su qu'il y avait en fait tout le temps de la place je ne me serai pas autant prise la tete pour essayer de reserver des camping!!!!! que conseil tu pour faire le delta interieur? tout ce que j'ai trouvé est super cher! peut on trouvé directement a maun? nous voudrions y passer qqes jours en camping si possible, merci beaucoup
attention c'est vrai qu'il y a beaucoup de place mais je n'ai pas de retour quant aux possibilités d'entrer sans les réservations. moi je les avais ! C'est sûrement possible mais à choisir mieux vaut ne pas prendre de risque. la mentalité des flics botswanais est assez spéciale !
pour le delta le mokoro est le moins cher. tu fais ça au départ de maun. crocodile camp ou audi camp organise cette excursion sur 1 ou plusieurs jours.
1 jour = 450 pulas environ par pers avec le déjeuner inclus.
plus cher mais absolument magique : le survol du delta en petit avion 3 places. 1300 pulas l'avion pour 1 heure
camping crocodile camp ou audi camp 25 pula par pers la nuit
il y a aussi la réserve de moremi qui borde le delta...
voili voilou n'hésite pas si tu veux plus d'info
pour le delta (mokoro, avion, camping )je suis passé par crocodile camp où j'ai aussi dormi. tout par mail. www.crocodilecamp.com ou crocamp@info.bw
pour les réserves il faut envoyer une demande par mail ou fax ou tel à
department of wildlife and national parks and reserves reservation office à gaborone
tel 267 3180774
fax 267 3180775
mail dwnp@gov.bw
bonne chance 😉
Ma chère Géraldine je pense que Vinnylove connait parfaitement le sujet.... mieux que moi.... d'aillleurs je la remercie encore pour ses réponses lors de la préparation de notre voyage.
Pour les Vic Falls, au Chobe Safari Lodge de Kasane, ils font camping, ils proposent le survol des chutes pour environ 95 € contre 60€ par la route !!!!
Quelle chance de partir !
L'Afrique nous manque déjà !
En attendant nous préparons le prochain : Emirats et Sultanat d'Oman pour Noël ....
D'un voyage il ne doit rester que 3 choses: les souvenirs, les images...et l'envie de repartir !
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Je prépare pour l'an prochain ( été 2008 ) un sejour au Botswana et en Namibie pour un groupe d'amis ( 12 à 16 );Quelles cartes et où se les procurer . Merci
tu trouveras plein de cartes intéressantes. pour les cartes des parcs (chobe, moremi, etc..) c'est pas utile de les avoir avant surtout que tu les trouves moitié moins cher une fois sur place (maun ou kasane )
Je confirme (encore une fois) la réponse de Vinnylove (fabuleuse Vinnylove!)
Le lien est parfait pour les cartes du pays, et effectivement pour les parcs, on en trouve partout et pas cher du tout !
D'un voyage il ne doit rester que 3 choses: les souvenirs, les images...et l'envie de repartir !
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Bonjour,
C'est donc des nouvelles fraîches qui arrivent de Namibie Bostwana.
Je suis effectivement en train de préparer un circuit qui fera en gros 37/38 jours pour septembre 2008, à peu près comme toi, et j'aimerai avoir ton avis sur ce que j'ai finalisé avec les conseils des lecteurs VF.
Jours Villes et N° de route
1 Paris Windhoek
2 Arrivée Windhoek - repères dans la ville
3 Récupération du 4x4 et route vers Mariental (B1) 267 km
4 Mariental (B1) Keetmanshoop - Seeheim (C12) 270 km
5 Holoog (601)Hobas(324)Ai Ais et Fish river canyon 230 km
6 Fish river canyon (c10/d707/c27)Seeheim(B4)Goageb -Aus 435 km
7 Aus - Kolmanshop - Luderitz - Aus - Beta 430 km
8 Beta (C27) Sesriem 140 km
9 Sesriem - Sossusvlei - Death vlei -Sesrien - Naukluft
10 Naukluft ovive trail - Solitaire
11 Solitaire Gaub Pass - kuiseb pass - Walvis bay
12 Walvis bay - Sortie mola mola Sandwich harbour
13 Walvis bay Swakopmund Cape Cross Henties Bay Uis Spitzkopp
OU
Walvis bay Swakopmund Cape cross Uis par l'Orawab ??? Sptizkopp
14 Spitzkopp et Twyfelfontein
15 Twyfelfontein (piste Aba huab??) C43 Palmwag - Warmquelle - Sesfontein
16 Sesfontein Puros
17 Puros - Orupembe - Otjiu
18 Otjiu - Otavi - Opuwo
19 Opuwo - Epupa
20 Epupa
21 Epupa - Opuwa Otjenunda - Kamanjab
22 Kamanjab - outjo - Okaukeujo
23 Etosha - halali
24 Etosha - Namutoni
25 Namutoni - Tsumeb - Grootfontein - Rundu
26 Rundu (B8) Bagani - Kongola 400 km
27 Kongola (B8) Katima Mulilo - Kasane
28 Chobe
29 Chobe
30 Savuti
31 Savuti
32 Moreni
33 Moreni
34 Delta Okavango
35 Maun Windhoek
36 Maun Windhoek
37 Windhoek
38 Vindhoek
Qu'en penses-tu ? Nous prendrons peut-être une journée pour les chutes sur les conseils de Nobody.
Toutes les remarques sont bonnes à prendre.
Rien n'est fait encore pour le vol et la location du 4x4. Il est possible que nous débutions le voyage par jo-bourg.
Chez qui avais-tu loué ton véhicule ?
Pour les réservations, c'est vrai que c'est difficile, je pense que nous en ferons le minimum.
Toutes mes excuses pour la longueur du message et merci d'avance pour tes réponses.
Quelle précision!!!
Je t'avoue qu'il y qq noms de villes que je ne connait pas, et je n'ai pas sous la main une carte pour les situer.
Choisir entre arriver sur windoeck ou sur Joburg, je t'avoue que pour nous c'est le tarif aérien qui a fait pencher la balance sur joburg.
Pour la location du 4X4 le tarif était kifkif puisque c'était la même agence : Britz.
Nous avons payé 100€ par jour pour un pick up Toyota 2 tentes de toit avec 2 réservoirs et tout l'équipement de camping, assurance tous risques et 0€ de franchise: nous avons ramené un 4X4 sale, poussiéreux, un feu arrière cassé, et 3 crevaisons dont une pneu changé, ils nous ont remboursé le pneu sur présentation de facture.
Nous avons adoré le côté sauvage du Botswana, et particulièrement le Moremi et le Chobe.
Le Kalahari: nous avons fait le sud et à priori c'est mieux au nord!
Les Chutes Victoria sont à voir, mais nous regrettons de ne pas les avoir fait par avion, c'était complet.
La bande de Caprivi: RAS
Etosha : manque un peu d'authenticité... trop de monde... trop asseptisée... mais une faune trés riche!
Opuwo et les himbas c'est également un grand moment du voyage....
Nous regrettons de ne pas être aller à Epupa falls.
Le Namib: féérique, se faire l'ascension d'une dune, nous, nous avions choisi la 45!
Cape Cross : "impressionnés par l'impressionnante" colonnie de phoques à fourrure...
Swakopmund : bien pour le shopping et les souvenirs, ainsi que bons restaus... et pour les accros de la pêche en mer!
Fish river canyon: oui bof!
Ceci dit tout au long de notre parcours nous avons vus des paysages magnifiques, le Botswana et la Namibie sont des destinations magiques et magnifiques.
Le fait de réserver les campements dans les parcs était pour nous une contrainte que nous refusions de nous imposer, au risque de ne pas pouvoir dormir dans les réserves, mais la liberté d'avancer comme nous le sentions sur le moment était trop primordiale.
Et finalement cela c'est trés bien passé, nous avons pu dormir partout et pourtant nous étions 3 4X4 soit 5 adultes et 1 enfant, la chance était peut-être avec nous !
Votre programme m'a l'air bien complet, peut-être trop... Savourez les endroits clefs au risque de ne pas pouvoir tout faire... nous nous avons parcouru 8 000 kms en 31 jours... et cela fait pas mal de temps passé en voiture, car essentiellement des pistes !
Chacun vibre sur des choses différentes... votre parcours vous l'avez construit en récoltant des infos au travers des forums, selon vos gouts.. laissez vous guider par vos intuitions, de toutes façons en choisissant cette destination vous ne prenez pas bcp de risques d'être déçus!
Bons préparatifs
Si besoin de détails n'hésitez pas
Au plaisir de te lire
Patricia
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Merci pour toutes tes réponses à mes questions.
Nous n'avons pas l'habitude de voyager en réservant et là, je pense que nous ferons la même chose pour plus de liberté. Les seules réservations seront Sesriem et Okaukuejo.
Pour l'itinéraire, il se peut que l'on prenne de l'avance ou du retard, ce sera au gré des rencontres... ce sont les vacances et rien ne sert de bourrer.
Merci encore et maintenant ça va être les recherches pour les différentes réservations.. avion et 4x4.
Robinette
Si je peux mettre mon grain de sel, prévois 3 jours à Savuti et 3 à Moremi, ce sont les plus beaux endroits et les plus riches. Par contre je n'ai plus la carte en tête mais attention au temps de trajet entre Maun et Windoeck, ça va être très long en temps.
Walvis bay : faire une petite excursion en bateau pour aller voir les phoques, ils montent sur les bateaux. J'étais dan sun lodge tenu par un ex-lyonnais, super bon accueil et bien placé.
Sosusvlei : à faire, très beau
Fish river canyon, à voir si tu ty passe mais rien de particulier. on perd pas mal de temps.
Fais le Spitzkoppe si tu le peux, c'est très beau et sauvage.
On a aussi fait la ferme aux guépards au sud d'Etosha, on peut les caresser.
Etosha : super touristique, n'a rien à voir avec les parcs du Botswana, mais il n'y a que là qu'on a vu des hyennes.
Botswana :
Kasane : Chobe safari lodge, bien, bonne étape. on peut faire le plein d'essence et de vivre et retirer de l'argent.
Chobe : Waouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu géant : SAVUTI fabuleux, par contre accès par une piste de sable profond de 50 km.
Moremi : jolie réserve, faire un tour en bateau sur le delta. aller à third bridge.
Par contre je te conseille de faire plus de jours au Botswana qu'en Namibie, il faut savoir que pour voir les animaux c'est entre 05H30 et 9H00 du matin et le soir à partir de 17H00.
Achetez vos souvenirs au fil de l'eau, ce qu'on trouve à un endroits ne l'est pas 50 km après.
Je te conseil d'acheter les cartes sur Internet pour mieux préparer ton voyage et t'imprégner du parcours.
Bonjour,
Désolée pour le retard.
Pour le moment, j'ai pris qq renseignements auprès d'air namibia. Le vol est à 928 euros TTC pour un vol de 40 j au départ de Frankfort. A ce prix, il faut rajouter Paris-Frankfort, environ 100/110 euros.
Pour les locations de véhicules, j'ai des réponses d'African treck environs 78 euros, Asco car hire 111 euros, mais il est difficile de savoir l'état du véhicule qui nous sera attribué à l'arrivée.
Si certains lecteurs sont passés par African treck, merci de me donner vos impressions car ils sont quand même bien moins chers que les autres...alors...cela cache peut-être des surprises.
Et toi, où en es-tu dans tes recherches ?
Au plaisir de tes nouvelles
Bonjour
Départ dans 4 jours pour le botswana et beaucoup d'interrogations pour préparer les valises.Peut-être pourriez vous m'aider?J'ai compris ( après avoir lu attentivement tous vos mails) qu'il faisait froid la nuit et chaud la journée, mais chaud comment? Que me conseilleriez vous comme vetements?
Merci d'avance de votre aide.
Kongab ( de Fronton)
Peut-être qu'il est trop tard, mais j'étais absente une semaine...
En ce qui concerne les vêtements à mettre dans la valise :
Pour la journée, pantalon de toile voire short, tee shirt ou chemisette..... mais à la tombée de la nuit : polaire recommandée, voire blouson (pas de ski mais pas loin...) des gants, bonnets..... C'est selon si on est frileux ou pas, si on bivouaque ou dort dans un lodge....
Nous dormions avec les duvets fournis par le loueur (100% synthetique) et par dessus un grosse couverture polaire achetée à Gaborone pour une poignée de figue.... dès que le soleil se lève ... on tombe les pulls ....
Nous avons eu même des températures négatives (gelées matinales) à Upington (Af du Sud)...
Quelle chance de partir.... c'est une destination magnifique....
Bon voyage à vous.
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Bonsoir
Message reçu à temps ...et en pleine séance de repassage!Nous ne partons que la nuit de mardi à mercredi.
Merci beaucoup pour ces détails, comme nous utiliserons les 2 formules: lodge et 2 nuits en camping, nous serons prudents et prendrons du chaud en plus des shorts!
Nous attendons avec impatience de découvrir le Botswana et le Zimbabwe (pour les chutes)
Merci beaucoup en tous cas...
Olivier
J'envisage de me rendre au Botswana puis en Namibie depuis La Réunion (où je réside) et je suis en train d'essayer d'évaluer le budget qu'il nous faudra prévoir pour partir à deux pendant 3 semaines.
Si j'ai bien compris, à force d'écumer les forums, louer un 4x4 avec tente sur toit serait le plus économique. Finalement, es-tu passé par African Treck? Sinon, quelle agence de location peux-tu conseiller?
Je rêve de ce périple mais j'aimerais voyager pour un minimum de frais, tout en étant consciente que la destination choisie n'est pas la plus économique bien entendu !
Merci d'avance pour ta réponse, en espérant que le post est toujours consulté...
Bonjour,
Pour des infos à jour, tu devrais jeter un œil à des discussions plus récentes…
En particulier la méthode de réservation des camps dans las parcs au Botswana à complètement changé avec leur privatisation (et les prix x10 🙁). Voyager sans résa est devenu impossible…
Bonne préparation.
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Hi there,
I’m considering camping in Nyungwe Park with my family (2 adults, 2 kids) at Uwinka campsite. Problem: the park rents the tent but without any gear (mattresses, blankets). We don’t have a car. Is it possible to rent or buy mattresses and blankets near the park, please?
Thanks for your help
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
Thanks
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Hello,
We’re planning a route from Maun to Kazane and Victoria Falls for May 2027 in a Toyota Hilux 4x4, staying in lodges (no camping). Here’s the rough outline:
- Maun: Arrival likely from Johannesburg, 2 nights
- Khwai: 2 nights
- Return to Maun
- Need to decide on a stop between Maun and Sepopa?
- Sepopa: 2 nights
- Cross into Namibia: Bagani, 2 nights
- Kongola: 2 nights
- Katima Mulilo: 2 nights
- Kasane: 3 or 4 nights
- Victoria Falls: 1 or 2 nights
- Return to France from Kasane or Victoria Falls
What’s the road condition like between Maun and Khwai? The stop names are approximate based on accommodations.
Thanks for any feedback on this plan!
Ailleurs 64
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks.
We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old.
We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions:
- How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?).
- Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice.
- I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that.
- Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas!
Gabriel
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg.
This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights).
D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights)
Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai).
D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights).
D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE).
D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6.
If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too.
Thanks! 🙂
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland.
Could you share any tips on:
- the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar)
- your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours
- reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are:
- Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional
- Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive
- Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me.
Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works...
Thanks to everyone for your help.
Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature.
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We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa?
As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult?
We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :)
We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend.
See you on the road with Doddy
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB
D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon
D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger
D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area
D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route)
D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this:
- Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective.
First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...).
That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on.
The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start...
During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.)
The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance.
Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page).
Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water),
– Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places,
– Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly,
– One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
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Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored:
– services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water),
– hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments,
– visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly,
– one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment.
To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone.
Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera
Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo
Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera
Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?)
Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 4: Full day in Tarangire
Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO
Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome...
Thanks
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works.
I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!!
I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh…
Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car??
If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali?
Thanks so much for your help…
Best regards
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be:
- Hwange
- Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona)
- Mana Pools
- Harare
- Gonarezhou
- Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work.
I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts.
So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza
Ngenda
Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi
Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas)
Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions:
-Is French still widely spoken?
-Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info?
-Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back?
-Is it possible to go hiking solo?
-Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share.
Looking forward to exchanging more!
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind.
I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south:
14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie
17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza
20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara
22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants
25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere.
28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel.
29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance!
Nicole
Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’d like to return to Africa and stay in a lodge where I can see animals—not necessarily the Big Five—without needing any transport once I arrive at the lodge, and at a price under $250 per day for two people with full board. The week-long stay is planned for late June into early July. I’m looking for suggestions. Thanks in advance!
Hi, I’d like to travel to Ethiopia as a solo 60-year-old woman, backpacking style, between December 2025 and January 2026.
I’m wondering about the current state of the country: unrest, safety concerns, etc.
Government websites advise against going, saying it’s too dangerous.
But I’m skeptical—they tend to be overly cautious.
So I’m looking for reliable information, though I’m not sure where to find it.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
We’re a group of four seventy-something retirees and we’re planning a 4-week trip to South Africa. We’re seasoned "adventurers" used to multi-week stays (we’ve been to India seven times, Mexico, Thailand, Laos, Myanmar, Australia, etc.).
For South Africa, we’re thinking of covering most of the trip in a private vehicle and taking flights for inter-state transfers.
We’re interested in meeting people, learning about the country’s evolution, exploring major cities, visiting traditional villages, and seeing wildlife.
Here’s the itinerary we’re considering:
Johannesburg – 2 days (we’ll pass through again later)
Pretoria – 2 days
Blyde River Canyon and Graskop – 1 day
Acornhoek – 1 day
Letaba – 2 days
Lobamba – 2 days
Johannesburg – 1 day
Flight to Cape Town
Cape Town – 3 days
Cape of Good Hope – 1 day
Stellenbosch – 1 day
Hermanus – 1 day
Mossel Bay – 2 days
Oudtshoorn
Wilderness – 2 days
Knysna
Port Elizabeth – 2 days
Addo Elephant Park
Flight back to Johannesburg
Johannesburg – 1 day
Return to Paris
Could you share your thoughts on this itinerary? We’ll be renting a vehicle to explore both regions.
We can easily add 4–5 more days to the trip if needed.
We’re looking at traveling either between April and May 2026 or in October/November 2026.
I’ll follow up later to discuss the best safari options and get a rough budget estimate.
Thanks to everyone who takes the time to read this and share their thoughts!
Hi,
I’m heading to Angola for two weeks starting mid-April and I’d like to rent a car to explore the country, but not a 4x4 to keep my budget in check. I plan to mostly stay in the western part and go as far as the Namibian border. Is it possible to drive in Iona Park without a 4x4, or to get to Kalendula or Piedra Negras? Also, is the Lubango–Huambo–Kuito–Malanje route doable in a city car? Lastly, do gas stations accept Visa?
Thanks for your feedback and tips!
Now that the Kruger part is (almost) wrapped up, I’m looking at the "Cape region" section.
The idea of spending 2 days (well, more like 2 nights and 1.5 days) in the Cederberg is really tempting 😎.
I’ve reread the posts about it—more or less (actually, more less than more)—and I still have quite a few questions:
- Where’s the best area to stay? Initially, I was looking at Kagga Kama, but I’m not sure if it’s worth the cost (or the trip, for that matter), or maybe Mount Ceder? Or somewhere else (without driving 6 or 8 hours from CT 😉)?
The plan is to get there in a sedan (if possible), see some beautiful landscapes, and do one or two hikes (nothing too tough 😛).
- I read that you need a permit to hike there... where do you buy it? (At the entrance, like in Kruger? 🤪)
- Is October a good time for the weather (theoretically...)?