Choisir le moyeu vélo Dynamo Shimano DH 3D72?
by Piloubond
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
avez vous deja tester le moyeu dynamo shimano sport DH 3D72, connaissez vous un comparatif face au moyeu dynamo son ? sinon a vez vous deja tester le son
avis bienvenus😎
Salut,
Il y a déjà des tonnes de posts et sujets sur ce thème. En particulier un sujet (autour de 10 pages actuellement je crois) qui croise les dynamos et les batteries/accus.
En plus de ce que tu trouvera sur le forum, il y a un comparatif des données techniques sur le site de ce revendeur qui est très détaillé: (ARTICLE EN ANGLAIS)
http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/Shimano3N70.asp Pour résumer, plus on monte en prix, et ça parait logique, plus tu auras du bon matos (moindre résistance au roulement, durée de vie, étanchéité des joints, poids, etc...)? Par ordre croissant de qualité: - shimano série NX 30, - shimano série DH-3N 70 et 80, - Schmidt SON
Voilà, sinon je ne peux pas (encore) t'apporter de retour d'expérience,
Bonne soirée
Il y a déjà des tonnes de posts et sujets sur ce thème. En particulier un sujet (autour de 10 pages actuellement je crois) qui croise les dynamos et les batteries/accus.
En plus de ce que tu trouvera sur le forum, il y a un comparatif des données techniques sur le site de ce revendeur qui est très détaillé: (ARTICLE EN ANGLAIS)
http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/Shimano3N70.asp Pour résumer, plus on monte en prix, et ça parait logique, plus tu auras du bon matos (moindre résistance au roulement, durée de vie, étanchéité des joints, poids, etc...)? Par ordre croissant de qualité: - shimano série NX 30, - shimano série DH-3N 70 et 80, - Schmidt SON
Voilà, sinon je ne peux pas (encore) t'apporter de retour d'expérience,
Bonne soirée
Le Shim je ne connais pas, mais le SON je suis franchement fan. J'en ai monté un d'abord il y a 8 ans sur mon vélo-taf. Quand j'ai commandé une randonneuse j'en ai fait installer un aussi puisque c'était dans l'optique de faire des brevets donc rouler de nuit. Et cet hiver après avoir reçu mon vélo couché je n'ai pas pu m'empêcher... en fait, je crois que pour moi un vélo sans éclairage est un vélo incomplet, et le moyeu dynamo est LE moyen d'avoir un éclairage sans souci.
Je n'ai pas de comparatif à te fournir, mais d'après ce que j'ai pu glâner comme infos de-ci de-là, il semble que
- le rendement de la dynamo en mode éclairage allumé se vaut à peu près pour tous les modèles.
- SON reste le plus performant en termes de puissance dissipée (résistance au roulement) avec éclairage éteint.
- SON a une réputation de grande qualité / durabilité non seulement en tant que dynamo mais aussi en tant que moyeu.
Bonjour,
Voici mon expérience sur les moyeux à dynamo. J'ai une shimano DH370 depuis 5 ans.
C'est géniale pour rouler la nuit. Sur des brevets de nuits. Fléche vélocio, 400 et le Paris-Brest-Paris.
Mon vélo sert aller aux travailles, je suis aide-soignant . Et quand je part ou que je rentre du taf, il fait souvent nuit.
Au bout de 4 ans et de 40 OOO kilomètre sa gratouille un peu
Les nouveaux phares de Bush and Muller à Led sont impressionnant. Je me suis fait arrêter par la police. Je les ai éblouie.
Le modèle shimano 80 est plus léger environ 160 g
Quant chez Son la différence entre les 2 modèle appart le poids. Avec la son 20R on peut moin utiliser le E-week pour recharger les piles . Sans soucis chez shimano.
Pour Finir j'ai un ami qui a une dynamo son. Elle est plus belle, quand on roulement la différence ne se fait pas sentir sur la route ou trés peu. Par contre je me pose la question en cas de franchissement de gué comme en Islande si les moyeux sont étanches et que cela ne posent pas de soucis? Mais ce cas de figure est trés rares A+
Quant chez Son la différence entre les 2 modèle appart le poids. Avec la son 20R on peut moin utiliser le E-week pour recharger les piles . Sans soucis chez shimano.
Pour Finir j'ai un ami qui a une dynamo son. Elle est plus belle, quand on roulement la différence ne se fait pas sentir sur la route ou trés peu. Par contre je me pose la question en cas de franchissement de gué comme en Islande si les moyeux sont étanches et que cela ne posent pas de soucis? Mais ce cas de figure est trés rares A+
ici tu trouvera un comparatif
http://voyageforum.com/...chargeur_D3412504-4/
dans le même sujet de discussion tout a été détaillé en long et en large
pour shimano
si frein à disque alors DH-3D72 sinon DH-3N80
http://voyageforum.com/...chargeur_D3412504-4/
dans le même sujet de discussion tout a été détaillé en long et en large
pour shimano
si frein à disque alors DH-3D72 sinon DH-3N80
La SON 20 est prévue pour les petites roues. Certains la mettent dans des roues de 700 parce qu'ils roulent vite et ils peuvent ainsi diminuer la résistance à 30 km/h et au-delà. La SON deluxe, sauf erreur, va aussi un peu dans ce sens. Pour un vélo de voyage, on est en principe chargé donc on ne va pas très vite, pour des roues de 700 ou de 26 il faut prendre un modèle 28, qui éclaire dès quelques km/h.
Bonjour,
Quelqu'un a une idée de l'équivalence "poids transporté = résistance à l'avancement" d'une dynamo en moyeu de roue.
Jules
"Ne cherche pas à suivre les traces d'un autre, cherche plutôt à savoir ce qu'il cherchait."
le poids des dynamos de moyeu est généralement indiqué dans le descriptif du fabricant. L'ensemble moyeu simple + dynamo latérale est souvent un peu moins lourd qu'une dynamo de moyeu, mais il n'y a pas un grosse différence.
La résistance à l'avancement se traduit par une puissance mécanique qui freine le vélo. Cette puissance de freinage est la puissance électrique de la dynamo (le plus souvent 6W max , rarement 12W) divisée par le rendement du circuit. Le rendement est assez rarement donné par le fabricant, et n'est pas si facile à mesurer proprement (du moins, dans le garage d'un cycliste pas spécialement équipé pour ce genre de mesures). Il dépend de la vitesse et de la résistance électrique du circuit que la dynamo alimente. En cherchant sur le web, on peut trouver quelques données (en anglais, rendement -> yield ou efficiency).
Le rendement peut varier de 20% à 80%, selon la qualité des dynamos (qualité du circuit électro-magnétique + qualité des roulements). Soit , pour une dynamo 6W, entre 8 et 30 W de résistance à l'avancement. Pour comparaison, l'effort habituellement fourni par un cycliste varie entre environ 100 W "à allure modérée" et environ 400 W lors d'un effort soutenu.
La résistance à l'avancement se traduit par une puissance mécanique qui freine le vélo. Cette puissance de freinage est la puissance électrique de la dynamo (le plus souvent 6W max , rarement 12W) divisée par le rendement du circuit. Le rendement est assez rarement donné par le fabricant, et n'est pas si facile à mesurer proprement (du moins, dans le garage d'un cycliste pas spécialement équipé pour ce genre de mesures). Il dépend de la vitesse et de la résistance électrique du circuit que la dynamo alimente. En cherchant sur le web, on peut trouver quelques données (en anglais, rendement -> yield ou efficiency).
Le rendement peut varier de 20% à 80%, selon la qualité des dynamos (qualité du circuit électro-magnétique + qualité des roulements). Soit , pour une dynamo 6W, entre 8 et 30 W de résistance à l'avancement. Pour comparaison, l'effort habituellement fourni par un cycliste varie entre environ 100 W "à allure modérée" et environ 400 W lors d'un effort soutenu.
Bonsoir,
Très intéressantes ces précisions, j'essaie d'extrapoler, en partant des chiffres ci-dessus, si je dis des conneries ne pas hésiter à me reprendre:
De 8 à 30 watts de résistance à l'avancement, prenons 20watts pour faire simple et moyen.
Je pèse 70kg habillé, + 30kg de bagages = 100 kg roulant pour 100 watts à allure modérée
Soit 1 watt pour 1 kg roulant, donc avec une dynamo de 20 watts de résistance à l'avancement, je traine 20 kg en plus????
Si mon raisonnement tient la route, il y aura bientôt des dynamo sur www.lebonc....fr?
Jules
"Ne cherche pas à suivre les traces d'un autre, cherche plutôt à savoir ce qu'il cherchait."
Bonjour,
Voici des éléments de réponse:
Diagramme 1 = évolution de la tension en fonction de la vitesse (colonne2 Shimano DH3N70, colonne3 SON 28)
Diagramme 2 = rendement en fonction de la vitesse
Diagramme 3 = pertes mécanique sans charge électrique
Traducteur d'allemand: http://www.allemandfacile.com/traducteur-allemand.php
Messungen für 28″-Laufrad mit 702 mm effektivem Durchmesser (Reifen 40-622)
Diagramm 1:
Diagramm 2:
Diagramm 3:
Pour en savoir plus: - une thèse http://www.enhydralutris.de/Fahrrad/Modellierung_eines_Nabendynamos__Mathias_Magdowski_.pdf - mon blog http://batterie-velo.blogspot.com/
Traducteur d'allemand: http://www.allemandfacile.com/traducteur-allemand.php
Messungen für 28″-Laufrad mit 702 mm effektivem Durchmesser (Reifen 40-622)
Diagramm 1:
Diagramm 2:
Diagramm 3:
Pour en savoir plus: - une thèse http://www.enhydralutris.de/Fahrrad/Modellierung_eines_Nabendynamos__Mathias_Magdowski_.pdf - mon blog http://batterie-velo.blogspot.com/
Je pèse 70kg habillé, + 30kg de bagages = 100 kg roulant pour 100 watts à allure modérée. Soit 1 watt pour 1 kg roulant, donc avec une dynamo de 20 watts de résistance à l'avancement, je traine 20 kg en plus????
non, car la résistance mécanique à l'avancement n'est pas simplement proportionnelle à la masse. Quand vous fournissez 100W pour rouler sur terrain plat à allure modérée, l'essentiel de ce que vous dépensez sert à compenser les frottements sur l'air, qui ne dépendent pas de votre masse. En montée, l'essentiel de la puissance à fournir dépend bien de la masse, mais dans ce cas, ce n'est plus 100W que vous dépensez, ce sera plutôt 200 ou 300, voire 400 pour les sportifs très entrainés. Enfin, les 8 à 30W, c'est en charge ; en circuit ouvert, il n'y a que les pertes à vide qui résistent à l'avancement du vélo (voir les valeurs dans le diagramme 3 déniché par Ioan ci-dessus).
Ceci dit, entre une dynamo qui "pompe" 8W et une qui "pompe" 30W, on peut sentir la différence ! Ceci explique sans doute pourquoi il y a si peu de dynamos 12V 6W sur le marché, et la seule qui existe est chère, car elle a un haut rendement.
Au fait, je m'aperçois que j'ai cité la puissance électrique de 6W dans ma comparaison, parce que j'ai une dynamo 6V 12W, mais les dynamos standard 6V fournissent généralement 3W électriques. Donc si le rendement est 50% (ou resp. 25%) , elles pompent seulement 6W (resp. 12W) au cycliste.
non, car la résistance mécanique à l'avancement n'est pas simplement proportionnelle à la masse. Quand vous fournissez 100W pour rouler sur terrain plat à allure modérée, l'essentiel de ce que vous dépensez sert à compenser les frottements sur l'air, qui ne dépendent pas de votre masse. En montée, l'essentiel de la puissance à fournir dépend bien de la masse, mais dans ce cas, ce n'est plus 100W que vous dépensez, ce sera plutôt 200 ou 300, voire 400 pour les sportifs très entrainés. Enfin, les 8 à 30W, c'est en charge ; en circuit ouvert, il n'y a que les pertes à vide qui résistent à l'avancement du vélo (voir les valeurs dans le diagramme 3 déniché par Ioan ci-dessus).
Ceci dit, entre une dynamo qui "pompe" 8W et une qui "pompe" 30W, on peut sentir la différence ! Ceci explique sans doute pourquoi il y a si peu de dynamos 12V 6W sur le marché, et la seule qui existe est chère, car elle a un haut rendement.
Au fait, je m'aperçois que j'ai cité la puissance électrique de 6W dans ma comparaison, parce que j'ai une dynamo 6V 12W, mais les dynamos standard 6V fournissent généralement 3W électriques. Donc si le rendement est 50% (ou resp. 25%) , elles pompent seulement 6W (resp. 12W) au cycliste.
Bonsoir,
Très intéressantes ces précisions, j'essaie d'extrapoler, en partant des chiffres ci-dessus, si je dis des conneries ne pas hésiter à me reprendre:
De 8 à 30 watts de résistance à l'avancement, prenons 20watts pour faire simple et moyen.
Je pèse 70kg habillé, + 30kg de bagages = 100 kg roulant pour 100 watts à allure modérée
Soit 1 watt pour 1 kg roulant, donc avec une dynamo de 20 watts de résistance à l'avancement, je traine 20 kg en plus????
Si mon raisonnement tient la route, il y aura bientôt des dynamo sur www.lebonc....fr?
Jules
En pédalant et en avançant tu emmagasines de l'énergie cinétique, et à un moment cette énergie, ta vitesse et ton poids ou ta masse, auront raison de toutes les résistances de ton vélo. Mais franchement, si tu as besoin d'une alimentation régulière, prend une dynamo de moyeu, sinon, une "bouteille" B&M en fait une de très performante, maintenant entre la première et la seconde, il n'y a pas photo, la deuxième est énergivore, et en plus si tu es riche, prends une SON.
En pédalant et en avançant tu emmagasines de l'énergie cinétique, et à un moment cette énergie, ta vitesse et ton poids ou ta masse, auront raison de toutes les résistances de ton vélo. Mais franchement, si tu as besoin d'une alimentation régulière, prend une dynamo de moyeu, sinon, une "bouteille" B&M en fait une de très performante, maintenant entre la première et la seconde, il n'y a pas photo, la deuxième est énergivore, et en plus si tu es riche, prends une SON.
En pédalant et en avançant tu emmagasines de l'énergie cinétique, et à un moment cette énergie, ta vitesse et ton poids ou ta masse, auront raison de toutes les résistances de ton vélo.
vous avez déjà essayé de rouler freins serrés ?
entre la première et la seconde, il n'y a pas photo
ben si, justement, les dynamos latérales de B&M série "S" (Dymotec 6S en 6 V, ou 12S en 12 V) ont un rendement et un prix comparable aux dynamos de moyeu SON... NB : je ne parle pas de la Dymotec 6 sans S, qui, elle, est tout-à-fait abordable, mais a un moins bon rendement (et globalement, à mon avis, un bon rapport qualité/prix quand même).
Donc si 6 V suffisent pour charger tout son équipement, le choix est ouvert. La dynamo latérale a l'avantage d'être débrayable et un tout petit peu plus légère, et l'inconvénient d'être exposée à la boue, et de ne pas bien rouler sur certains types de pneus. S'il faut plus de 6 V, il n'y a pas vraiment le choix pour l'instant : dynamo latérale B&M Dymotec S12 (12V, 6W). On peut tirer un peu plus de 3W de certains modèles 6V 3W SON, mais la tension n'ira pas bien loin au-dessus de 6V.
vous avez déjà essayé de rouler freins serrés ?
entre la première et la seconde, il n'y a pas photo
ben si, justement, les dynamos latérales de B&M série "S" (Dymotec 6S en 6 V, ou 12S en 12 V) ont un rendement et un prix comparable aux dynamos de moyeu SON... NB : je ne parle pas de la Dymotec 6 sans S, qui, elle, est tout-à-fait abordable, mais a un moins bon rendement (et globalement, à mon avis, un bon rapport qualité/prix quand même).
Donc si 6 V suffisent pour charger tout son équipement, le choix est ouvert. La dynamo latérale a l'avantage d'être débrayable et un tout petit peu plus légère, et l'inconvénient d'être exposée à la boue, et de ne pas bien rouler sur certains types de pneus. S'il faut plus de 6 V, il n'y a pas vraiment le choix pour l'instant : dynamo latérale B&M Dymotec S12 (12V, 6W). On peut tirer un peu plus de 3W de certains modèles 6V 3W SON, mais la tension n'ira pas bien loin au-dessus de 6V.
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I’ll stop here because it might sound like I’m advertising, but if you don’t know *200*, I invite you to discover it. It’ll give you wings for the most incredible challenges or simply reinforce your desire for slow rides with your eyes open to others and nature.
A little news to wrap up: Axel Carion and a friend just broke the record for crossing South America from Colombia to Ushuaia in 59 days. On its own, that doesn’t mean much, but I can’t help it—it makes me dream. You should see how he talks about it, the flashes of that wild nature he’s stored away: a snowstorm at Paso Jama and the surreal sight of the suddenly snow-covered Licancabur!
Luc PS: The magazine is called *200* because a day’s ride starts at 200 km—well, I’ve never done a ride like that since my longest was 167 km (with 18 kg of luggage, mind you), but why not one day? The magazine will explain how to tackle your first 200, and then the question in conclusion: when will you do your first 300?😏
It covers everything from the trans-America route to the TCR (Trans Continental Race) from Belgium to a small town in Turkey, with mind-blowing averages—4,000 km and 80,000 m of elevation gain in 8 days and 15 hours for the winner. Let that sink in, and all of it without assistance—accepting a patch could penalize you. There’s also a story about crossing Iran, encountering one of the world’s most welcoming populations, following in the footsteps of Nicolas Bouvier, as well as retirees leisurely traversing France. The common thread in all these stories? Beautiful writing. Take, for example, a stunning article: *"Passengers of the Cold: From Edinburgh to Thurso, at the very north of Scotland, 550 km of moors, coasts, and icy wind. In Thurso, the road ends at a quay, facing the Orkney Islands. We wanted a November trip, off-season. We wanted to surprise winter. Just before the snow."* A sublime piece on the experience of facing adversity and the chance encounters along the road and in the elements.
Before I embarked on my own bike trips, I dreamed a lot about them—from the Atacama to the Gobi, along the Mekong, and not forgetting France. And now, these 130 pages every quarter keep those dreamy vibes alive through stories written in the most beautiful prose.
I’ll stop here because it might sound like I’m advertising, but if you don’t know *200*, I invite you to discover it. It’ll give you wings for the most incredible challenges or simply reinforce your desire for slow rides with your eyes open to others and nature.
A little news to wrap up: Axel Carion and a friend just broke the record for crossing South America from Colombia to Ushuaia in 59 days. On its own, that doesn’t mean much, but I can’t help it—it makes me dream. You should see how he talks about it, the flashes of that wild nature he’s stored away: a snowstorm at Paso Jama and the surreal sight of the suddenly snow-covered Licancabur!
Luc PS: The magazine is called *200* because a day’s ride starts at 200 km—well, I’ve never done a ride like that since my longest was 167 km (with 18 kg of luggage, mind you), but why not one day? The magazine will explain how to tackle your first 200, and then the question in conclusion: when will you do your first 300?😏
Hi there,
I’ve got my flight ticket sorted—departing in mid-November and returning in mid-March. I’ll arrive in Santiago and leave from Buenos Aires. I’ve already been to southern Argentina, specifically Torres del Paine National Park, and I’d love to go back to do the full W trek (I only did the shorter version last time). I also want to do some hiking and maybe even tackle a summit. I climb and occasionally do some mountaineering, so I’ll definitely be going with a guide.
I plan to start around Temuco in Chile, with the idea of heading toward the lakes, then taking the Carretera Austral. I’m not sure if I’ll go all the way to Ushuaia—it’s supposed to not be *that* worth it, except for the bragging rights of saying you’ve been to the end of the world.
I saw there are lakes in Argentina too.
I don’t have a precise itinerary, but what I’d love is, once I reach the southernmost point of my trip, to take a mini-cruise to see some wildlife. Any tips for that?
What kind of sleeping bag did you take? Is a 0°C (32°F) one enough? And one last question: white gas stove or can I get by with my gas stove?
Nath
I’ve got my flight ticket sorted—departing in mid-November and returning in mid-March. I’ll arrive in Santiago and leave from Buenos Aires. I’ve already been to southern Argentina, specifically Torres del Paine National Park, and I’d love to go back to do the full W trek (I only did the shorter version last time). I also want to do some hiking and maybe even tackle a summit. I climb and occasionally do some mountaineering, so I’ll definitely be going with a guide.
I plan to start around Temuco in Chile, with the idea of heading toward the lakes, then taking the Carretera Austral. I’m not sure if I’ll go all the way to Ushuaia—it’s supposed to not be *that* worth it, except for the bragging rights of saying you’ve been to the end of the world.
I saw there are lakes in Argentina too.
I don’t have a precise itinerary, but what I’d love is, once I reach the southernmost point of my trip, to take a mini-cruise to see some wildlife. Any tips for that?
What kind of sleeping bag did you take? Is a 0°C (32°F) one enough? And one last question: white gas stove or can I get by with my gas stove?
Nath
I'm developing a free and open-source web app for planning walking and cycling trips (and even car trips). You can create a route by clicking directly on the map to add waypoints, and it can consist of multiple stages. The app provides tools to edit the stages and the overall route, and to display useful information (distances, altitudes, and elevation changes). A relief profile can be shown as a graph for a specific stage or the entire route.
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
Source code: https://github.com/patricklmarie/GPX-Route-Planner Online demo: https://patricklmarie.github.io/GPX-Route-Planner/
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
Source code: https://github.com/patricklmarie/GPX-Route-Planner Online demo: https://patricklmarie.github.io/GPX-Route-Planner/
Heinz Stucke has passed away.
He never stopped traveling the world since 1962.
So sad.
https://www.facebook.com/heinzstucke
https://www.facebook.com/heinzstucke
hello fellow cycling enthusiasts
here’s a travel journal of the cycling tour through the Rhône-Alpes Auvergne region by Claudio
zouli
it was the plan
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/auvergne-Ralpes/
the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

Hello,
We’d like to go on a 3- to 4-month bike trip starting in December, crossing from Assam (northeast India) to New Delhi via Nepal.
Are there routes with light traffic along the Brahmaputra and through Nepal?
We’re also looking for any info on accommodations, wild camping, local interactions, etc.
Thanks,
Michel
Hi there,
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
Hi there,
I’ve been road cycling for several years, and I’m about to switch to gravel in the next few days—I’m waiting for my bike, which should arrive this week.
I’m planning a bikepacking trip in a few weeks along the Véloroute V81, also known as the Vélosud, from Biarritz to Le Barcarès.
Has anyone here already done this route? Any info is welcome, whether it’s about the route itself, gear, or accommodation. I’ll prioritize staying with locals as much as possible. On that note, I just signed up for the brand-new site *Guidon et Couette* ((www.guidon-et-couette.fr)), which offers free accommodation between cyclists across the country, but there’s almost no one listed along my route!
Thanks in advance.
Laurent.
Hi there, I’m planning a cross-Canada bike trip, and I’ve got a question that might seem silly, but could someone tell me how to pack a bike (in a box, with a fragile sticker... I don’t know) for a flight? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
I’ve gotten used to crossing Europe by bus to return by bike.
It was really convenient to take the bike without having to disassemble it.
But FlixBus no longer accepts bikes...
What alternatives do you know about?
Thanks.
Hi there,
I’m planning to ride the Dutch section of the EuroVelo 19, from Maastricht to Rotterdam.
Since it’s too complicated to bring my bike on the train, I’m looking to rent one locally.
I’d love any tips or bike rental shop recommendations—I’m struggling to find options even in Rotterdam.
The plan is to rent in Rotterdam, take the train to Maastricht with the bike, then cycle back to Rotterdam.
Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions!
Nath
Coming soon:
https://www.Biclou.com/parcours/durance/
Starting from Faverges: 900 km over 9 days

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Hi there,
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
Hi there!
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
Hi there, we’re a group of 4 cyclists looking to get from Treviso in Italy to Munich with our 4 non-folding bikes. It seems complicated! Are there any solutions? Thanks so much.
Hi, I'm looking for a Pino tandem bike for sale in Quebec and I can't find any. Does anyone have any info, please? Thanks a bunch!