Bonjour à tous !
Je compte faire un petit tour de grande bretagne ou de belgique pour un premier trekking, en favorisant les petites routes et sentier. Je compte en faire un par an, par la suite.Je vais m'équiper et j'hésite entre plusieurs modèles...en fonction d'un budget aussi.
Par préférence voila mes choix:Je suis fan du Big Dummy de Surly et je comptais m'en monter un, et en profiter pour la vie de tous les jours (équipé du kit saccoches et de deux gros sacs ortlieb) --> gros budget mais génial (trimbaler ma petite fille et balancer ma voiture ...chouette)!Je suis aussi fan du LHT de surly, mais je me dit qu'avec tout l'équipement rando à rajouter le budget est aussi conséquent et je récupère pas un vélo de ts les jours vraiment différents de mes autres byclo.Autre possibilité: acheter un vélo d'occase avec un bon cadre et rajouter un kit de rallonge xtracyle, mais je ne troouve pas de témoignage de ce système en france . quatrième et dernier choix: acheter un vélo tout monté du genre raleigh sojurn, kona sutra, ou même giant expedition, ce qui réduit bien le budget mais qui ne me satisfait pas vraiment au niveau de l'équipement.
Qu'en pensez vous ? Dois je vraiment satisfaire mon envie ou être plus raisonnable ?
Qu'elqu'un a-t-il déjà monté un big dummy ? Est vraiment un vélo interessant pour le trekking ?
Merci pour vos réponses.
Le Chemin pour le bonheur n'existe pas.
Le bonheur c'est le Chemin.
Le Big Dummy est pas mal utilisé au Etats-Unis. Si tu fais une recherche sur net, tu devrais trouver une boite de coursier à vélo sur Angers (Je crois !) qui l'utilise pour les lourdes charges. C'est un concept sympa. Mais de par sa longueur, il est moins manoeuvrable entre les voitures.
L'Xtracycle coute environ 400€ en Allemagne. Je n'ai pas encore vu de boites françaises le proposer. Par rapport au Big Dummy, l'Xtracycle te permet d'avoir un vélo normal quand il est retiré.
Le LHT est la rolls du voyage pour beaucoup. C'est un cadre qui a fait s'est preuve. Pour 1500€ environ, tu peux te monter un vélo de voyage à partir de ce cadre.
Pour le vélo d'occase cela peut être le jour et la nuit suivant l'occase :D
1500 € ! Vous y aller un peu fort Mr Bibi.
J'ai acheté mon cadre de LHT 300 €. Il faut y aller pour monter 1200 € de composants dessus, porte-bagages tubus inclus.
Avec 1000 €, on s'en sort largement, d'autant plus si on aime monter le vélo soi-même.
Effectivement, 1500€ peut paraître un peu élévé. Mais perso, quitte à me faire un vélo pour longtemps autant y mettre des piéces fiables...
De plus, le cadre actuellement en France coûte dans les 420€ par VPC (presque 50% de plus que le tiens).
Pour les autres composants, je fais confiance à du Shimano SLX et du Shimano XT pour la transmission. La direction serait orientée vers du Ritchey. Les freins sur jantes serait des V-Brakes Shimano XT à parallélogramme. Pour la selle, ce serait une Brooks. Guidon et potence sont issues du monde du VTT. Etc...
Donc au final pour 1500€, j'aurais un très bon vélo fiable pour longtemps.
Il faut faire attention à la différence entre "performance" et "fiabilité"
Les gammes de produits pour les vélos sont très souvent dérivés de la compétition et donc plus fonction de la performance que de la fiabilité
Le Vbrake XT à parallélogramme doit procurer un très bon freinage pour un poids faible, mais comme il est plus complexe (le parallélogramme ), il est sûrement moins costaud qu'un Vbrake de base type Alivio ou Trekro qui freinent correctement, sont un peu plus lourds, et plus fiables.
J'ai ce problème avec 2 dérailleurs arrières ; l'alivio est bien plus fiable, efficace, que le déore mais l'alivio ne permet de passer que 8 vitesses contre 9 pour le déore qui est donc "plus haut" dans la gamme ....
Trek a monté un déore sur le VTT4400 qui n'a que .... 8 vitesses ... ce qui ne sert à rien, se dérégle plus, et coute plus cher.
Prendre du haut de gamme peut être utile pour certains types de pièce (moyeux roues ?) et pas pour d'autres (freins) ; pour le boîtier de pédalier il est peut être plus prudent de rester dans du classique "carré" en essayant de trouver un bon produit (je suis preneur de toute info à ce sujet .... je cherche un carré qui tourne rond😎)
Un Vfiste, "OrangeVince" a cassé un dérailleur XT dans le Bokor un montagne au sud du Cambodge. Pour réparer, il a été obligé de retourner jusqu'à Bangkok en Thailande. Avec un matériel moins sophistiqué il aurait peut être pu réparer sur place (pas à Kampot mais à Sianoukvile ou PP).
Le prix des cadre Surly LH dont vous parlez, c'est avec ou sans la fourche ??????
Pour les piéces, les XT ne sont pas fait pour la compétition (pour la compêt, ce sont des XTR) mais pour la rando sportive en VTT donc dans des conditions bien plus extrêmes que les voyages. Perso, j'ai un derailleur AR XT qui marche très bien.
Pour les freins à parallélogramme, ils peuvent sembler plus faible mais ils usent moins rapidement les patins et freinent mieux. Et perso, sur un vélo de voyage qui va être chargé (parfois près de 30kg), je préfere avoir de bons freins qui freinent...
Après si ton derailleur AR casse, tu peux rarement réparer sur place. Si, c'est un axe, tu peux y mettre une vis ou un boulon. Mais souvent, tu dois passer en singlespeed.
Je suis de l'avis de Luclyon, halte à la surenchère en terme de qualité et de performance! c'est dans les jambes et dans la tête que se joue le voyage, plus que dans la qualité du dérailleur!!
Pour répondre au premier post de ce topic, je pense que un cadre surly LHT, équipé comme il faut, constitue effectivement un excellent vélo, un choix que tu ne regretteras pas!!! je n'hésiterais pas!
Pour répondre au premier post de ce topic, je pense que un cadre surly LHT, équipé comme il faut, constitue effectivement un excellent vélo, un choix que tu ne regretteras pas!!! je n'hésiterais pas!
Que signifie "équipé comme il faut" ? C'est un peu vague de mon point de vue.
Par contre, je rejoints l'avis sur le cadre Surly LHT.
oui c'est vrai, toute mes excuses. Mais je suis resté vague parce que justement il y a débat sur "ce qu'il faut" !!😄😄
Bon, personnellement, dès que j'en ai la possibilité, j'espère monter un vélo surly, avec, je pense, un groupe deore LX; largement suffisant, à mon sens, c'est même déjà un peu du luxe.
Je roule en ce moment avec un groupe deore et alivio (deore à l'arrière, alivio le reste); et il n'y a pas de problème, d'où ma réticence à trop monter en gamme.
Je me suis commandé un LHT cet été, et avec toutes les pièces détachées, en visant comme l'Amiral Bibi des pièces fiables de qualité, plutôt dans le Deore, parfois XT, DT Swiss pour les jantes, Brooks pour les fesses, Schwalbe pour la gomme... vous voyez le topo, et ça monte dans les 1400€.
C'est clair que c'est cher et qu'en prenant des composants des marques populaires on paye un peu plus, alors que d'autres marques moins visibles fabriquent sans doute des pièces aussi bonnes pour moins cher, mais je n'ai pas encore l'expérience pour comparer.
Pour mes emplettes j'ai valsé entre chainreactioncycles.com et bike-components.de. Bike Components est un distributeur Surly, ils ont des prix TRÈS compétents, certaines pièces 25% moins cher que tout ce que j'ai vu ailleurs, et d'autres plus cher, d'où l'intérêt d'aller sur CRC qui est également assez compétitif.
Un exemple, je voulais les portes-baggages Nice Rack de Surly, très robustes et permettant d'avoir une plate-forme au-dessus de la roue même à l'avant, à l'inverse des Tubus. Avant de tomber sur Bike Components, je ne les trouvais qu'à 105€/pièce (alternativebicycles.fr), alors que les Tubus étaient à 70€, mais sur BC ils sont à 75€...
Je recommande donc vivement Bike Components, frais de port de 10 euros pour le vélo et toutes ses pièces, et ne soyez pas effrayés par le fait qu'ils demandent un virement bancaire ; ils sont très pro et je leur referais sans hésiter un virement de 1400€ (c'était quand même un moment difficile).
Pour en revenir au sujet du thread, le Big Dummy est un excellent vélo pour la rando, et certains barjos l'utilisent même pour faire de la rando VTT : regardez sur Youtube. Mais si tu veux vraiment taper dans le vélo d'extraterrestre, je te conseille le Pugsley, j'y ai songé un temps, mais me ravisant étant donné que la plupart des mes voyages des 5 ans à venir resteront sur les bitumes européens : une très belle aventure.
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After testing it for three years across various modes of transport, I’m sharing this video of a bike packing case. It’s made from recycled cardboard and shrink-wrapped, with adjustable thickness and added bubble wrap depending on the level of protection you want.
Installing spacers at the fork and chainstays makes the packaging compact. With the fifteen-odd euros for shrink-wrapping at the airport, this case travels really well.
https://youtu.be/_GDJi-GqmkM
- Low bulk (1.10m x 0.70m x 0.25m for a large frame), it fits vertically in train luggage compartments and the total dimensions (x+y+z) don’t exceed 2.40m.
- Two carrying solutions for public transport and easy handling by airport staff (no more tears in the cardboard from openings).
- Discreet packaging when dealing with bus drivers and train conductors, as it looks like an ordinary parcel.
- No need to return to the starting point to retrieve the case from your outbound trip, which you’d otherwise have to store somewhere, or deal with a bulky cover to pack in your panniers.
- You can still check tire pressure through the plastic film without damaging the packaging too much.
Drawbacks: Around 3 hours for this lengthy and meticulous process—removing the wheels, pedals, handlebars, and derailleur without misaligning them, then securing all components to the frame.
If you get a chance to test it, send me your feedback for future improvements.
I just took a trip in Tunisia from Tozeur to Douz, skirting Chott el Jerid to the south. I’m back with the urge to keep going further south via the 4x4 tracks to connect Douz to Ksar Ghilane. Has anyone driven this route recently or explored southern Tunisia?
Thanks for your tips!
fix
😎Fellow traveling cyclists or not, all of you who love travel, the pleasure of physical effort, nature, beautiful machines, people with true passions they seek to fulfill, and who also enjoy reading great literature about all this—the *200* magazine is for you just as it is for me. I should mention I have no financial or other interest in this (in an era where we accuse our politicians of all sorts of vile interests, I prefer to take precautions). I’ve been subscribed since the beginning, and every three months, I get my 130 pages of dreams (the magazine just went from 110 to 130 pages).
It covers everything from the trans-America route to the TCR (Trans Continental Race) from Belgium to a small town in Turkey, with mind-blowing averages—4,000 km and 80,000 m of elevation gain in 8 days and 15 hours for the winner. Let that sink in, and all of it without assistance—accepting a patch could penalize you. There’s also a story about crossing Iran, encountering one of the world’s most welcoming populations, following in the footsteps of Nicolas Bouvier, as well as retirees leisurely traversing France. The common thread in all these stories? Beautiful writing. Take, for example, a stunning article: *"Passengers of the Cold: From Edinburgh to Thurso, at the very north of Scotland, 550 km of moors, coasts, and icy wind. In Thurso, the road ends at a quay, facing the Orkney Islands. We wanted a November trip, off-season. We wanted to surprise winter. Just before the snow."* A sublime piece on the experience of facing adversity and the chance encounters along the road and in the elements.
Before I embarked on my own bike trips, I dreamed a lot about them—from the Atacama to the Gobi, along the Mekong, and not forgetting France. And now, these 130 pages every quarter keep those dreamy vibes alive through stories written in the most beautiful prose.
I’ll stop here because it might sound like I’m advertising, but if you don’t know *200*, I invite you to discover it. It’ll give you wings for the most incredible challenges or simply reinforce your desire for slow rides with your eyes open to others and nature.
A little news to wrap up: Axel Carion and a friend just broke the record for crossing South America from Colombia to Ushuaia in 59 days. On its own, that doesn’t mean much, but I can’t help it—it makes me dream. You should see how he talks about it, the flashes of that wild nature he’s stored away: a snowstorm at Paso Jama and the surreal sight of the suddenly snow-covered Licancabur!
Luc
PS: The magazine is called *200* because a day’s ride starts at 200 km—well, I’ve never done a ride like that since my longest was 167 km (with 18 kg of luggage, mind you), but why not one day? The magazine will explain how to tackle your first 200, and then the question in conclusion: when will you do your first 300?😏
Looking for a female travel companion for a cycling trip (arriving by plane in Porto Alegre, Brazil, and cycling toward Montevideo, Uruguay, returning by plane to France from Buenos Aires, Argentina) – 1,500 km
Hello everyone!
I’m planning a cycling trip across Brazil, Uruguay, and Argentina, with a departure set for late October, November, or December. I’m looking for a travel companion to share this long-distance adventure with.
Experience:
I already have solid experience in bicycle touring in Georgia, Kazakhstan, and Kyrgyzstan. Currently, I maintain excellent physical condition by cycling an average of 250 km over 3 days per week (4 hours a day at 20 km/h).
The trip & the pace:
Daily pace: Between 50 and 80 km per day, to make steady progress while taking time to explore.
Accommodation: Flexible and authentic. We’ll alternate between wild camping, campsites, Warmshowers, small guesthouses, and budget hotels depending on opportunities and the weather.
Looking forward to reading your message and planning this amazing journey together!
I’ve got my flight ticket sorted—departing in mid-November and returning in mid-March. I’ll arrive in Santiago and leave from Buenos Aires.
I’ve already been to southern Argentina, specifically Torres del Paine National Park, and I’d love to go back to do the full W trek (I only did the shorter version last time).
I also want to do some hiking and maybe even tackle a summit. I climb and occasionally do some mountaineering, so I’ll definitely be going with a guide.
I plan to start around Temuco in Chile, with the idea of heading toward the lakes, then taking the Carretera Austral.
I’m not sure if I’ll go all the way to Ushuaia—it’s supposed to not be *that* worth it, except for the bragging rights of saying you’ve been to the end of the world.
I saw there are lakes in Argentina too.
I don’t have a precise itinerary, but what I’d love is, once I reach the southernmost point of my trip, to take a mini-cruise to see some wildlife. Any tips for that?
What kind of sleeping bag did you take? Is a 0°C (32°F) one enough?
And one last question: white gas stove or can I get by with my gas stove?
I'm developing a free and open-source web app for planning walking and cycling trips (and even car trips). You can create a route by clicking directly on the map to add waypoints, and it can consist of multiple stages. The app provides tools to edit the stages and the overall route, and to display useful information (distances, altitudes, and elevation changes). A relief profile can be shown as a graph for a specific stage or the entire route.
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
hello fellow cycling enthusiasts
here’s a travel journal of the cycling tour through the Rhône-Alpes Auvergne region by Claudio
zouli
it was the plan
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/auvergne-Ralpes/
the trip was completed
story being posted online soon
1100 km in 11 days
beautiful and varied regions
Hello,
We’d like to go on a 3- to 4-month bike trip starting in December, crossing from Assam (northeast India) to New Delhi via Nepal.
Are there routes with light traffic along the Brahmaputra and through Nepal?
We’re also looking for any info on accommodations, wild camping, local interactions, etc.
Thanks,
Michel
Hello,
Has anyone here had experience using a gas stove in Sardinia and Sicily? I’m wondering if screw-on gas canisters (not the blue Campingaz ones, but brands like Coleman, Primus, etc.) are easy to find.
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August!
Virginie
Hi there,
I’ve been road cycling for several years, and I’m about to switch to gravel in the next few days—I’m waiting for my bike, which should arrive this week.
I’m planning a bikepacking trip in a few weeks along the Véloroute V81, also known as the Vélosud, from Biarritz to Le Barcarès.
Has anyone here already done this route? Any info is welcome, whether it’s about the route itself, gear, or accommodation. I’ll prioritize staying with locals as much as possible. On that note, I just signed up for the brand-new site *Guidon et Couette* ((www.guidon-et-couette.fr)), which offers free accommodation between cyclists across the country, but there’s almost no one listed along my route!
Thanks in advance.
Laurent.
Hi there, I’m planning a cross-Canada bike trip, and I’ve got a question that might seem silly, but could someone tell me how to pack a bike (in a box, with a fragile sticker... I don’t know) for a flight? Thanks in advance!
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam.
My question is about getting back to Nantes.
Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences.
I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes.
By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains.
We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance!
Have a great evening
I’ve gotten used to crossing Europe by bus to return by bike.
It was really convenient to take the bike without having to disassemble it.
But FlixBus no longer accepts bikes...
What alternatives do you know about?
Thanks.
Hi there,
I’m planning to ride the Dutch section of the EuroVelo 19, from Maastricht to Rotterdam.
Since it’s too complicated to bring my bike on the train, I’m looking to rent one locally.
I’d love any tips or bike rental shop recommendations—I’m struggling to find options even in Rotterdam.
The plan is to rent in Rotterdam, take the train to Maastricht with the bike, then cycle back to Rotterdam.
Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions!
Nath
I’m planning to build a new touring bike.
I want to prioritize lightness.
That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads.
The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper.
I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork.
Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm.
It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring.
And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear.
More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.
It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.
One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.
We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.
Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
Hi there, we’re a group of 4 cyclists looking to get from Treviso in Italy to Munich with our 4 non-folding bikes. It seems complicated! Are there any solutions? Thanks so much.
Hi there, we’re planning a Munich to Venice bike trip at the end of June 2026. Getting back from Venice to Toulouse by train with 4 bikes isn’t straightforward. What return options have others who’ve done this trip chosen? Any tips or great deals would be much appreciated. Thanks a bunch! !
Hi everyone,
Happy owner of a Pegasus Estremo bike with a Rohloff hub, which is giving me trouble with the SF11-NCX-FT-E-LITE 700C TS 300/0 fork (serial number TD01329060). It’s starting to show its age, and I’d like to repair it to extend the life of my beloved bike.
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Hi, I'd like to know if anyone has done this route recently or has reliable info.
Does the track exist, and most importantly, is there sand (for biking)?
Any info is welcome.
Cheers,
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena
vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
Hi there,
New to bike touring,
I’d love to start with a section of the Via Rhona to explore and share (route to be decided).
Looking forward to exchanging tips!
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
A big thank you to Lazarou for all the info you share in this forum!
I'm passionate about Morocco, which I cycled through back in 2009.
Last year, my wife and I explored the High Atlas by tandem. Completely smitten, we're heading back in April (Anti Atlas) and May (High and Middle Atlas), still on our tandem.
Do you have any info on the track between Amezri and Ali Ait Nito? Are the river crossings in the Tessaout still there? It's not easy to navigate with a loaded tandem... especially if the river level is high due to this year's heavy snowmelt!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes
Here are his travels
Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné
Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way
Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place
Rural and quite peaceful
A road cycling route created by Serge B...
First of all... happy New Year! Wishing you great roads in 2017!
I’ve been traveling for a few years now with a high-quality mountain bike, but it’s equipped with hydraulic disc brakes. I live (pedal) with the constant worry of a breakdown (leak, air bubble, heat causing the fluid to...). My bike mechanic tells me it’s impossible to switch them out for V-brakes.
What do you all think? Am I taking a big risk continuing (alone) with these brakes? Thanks in advance for your great tips!