Bonjour
La notion de transit n'existe pas aux USA . Il faut faire un ESTA, et lors de la redaction, vs avez d'ailleurs une question sur le transit ou non.
Eh oui, c'est oui, tu poses UN PIED sur le sol américain en descendant d'un avion pour en prendre immédiatement un autre, qu'il te la faut déjà cette ESTA !
Si le chemin est difficile, le difficile est le chemin.
Le fait de devoir demander un ESTA pour un transit aux USA vient aussi du fait que les aeroports US ne sont pas du tout adaptés à un transit, notamment car ils ont souvent un terminal dédié à l'arrivée des vols internationaux, puis d'autres terminaux, souvent affecté à une ou plusieurs compagnies US, d'ou partent leur vols internationaux.
Il faut donc sortir du terminal d'arrivée pour aller à un autre, et il est materiellement impossible de prevoir un parcours hors douane et immigration.
A mon humble avis, le fait de demander un ESTA n'est d'ailleurs pas le plus genant.
La principale contrainte est plutot de devoir subir les formalités d'immigration, avec la perte de temps que celà represente.
je me rappelle il y a qqs années, j ai du transiter à miami et effectivement j ai pu sortir de l aéroport
Je suis également allé à Los Angeles il y a un peu plus de10ans et déjà les contrôlés étaient très poussés je ne sais pas ce qu ils peuvent faire de plus....
De plus j ai lu que ce n était même pas sur qu ils te laissent passer avec ton passeport + l esta .
Je pars au Guatemala et malheureusement il faut transiter par les states sinon c est vraiment hors de prix.
salut,
Je serai curieux de savoir où tu as lu qu'avec un passeport en règle et un ESTA valide on pouvait se faire ''refouler'' à l'entrée des US...
Maintenant pour passer par les USA (et depuis peu pour passer par le Canada) il faut cette autorisation (ESTA ou AVE) et c'est ainsi!! Pas le choix, sauf de ne pas transiter par ces deux pays!!
As tu regardé par Iberia via Madrid ? (je suppose que oui mais au cas où)
Bon séjour au Guatemala c'est un superbe pays avec des gens fort sympathiques! (un peu de lecture si cela t'intéresse : https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=7747957;#7747957
"Homme libre, toujours tu chériras la mer" (Baudelaire)
Je serai curieux de savoir où tu as lu qu'avec un passeport en règle et un ESTA valide on pouvait se faire ''refouler'' à l'entrée des US..."
PARTOUT
Partout ?
Tu as lu beaucoup de messages de simples touristes ou personnes en transit qui partent seul ou en famille et qui se sont fait refouler au passage de l'immigration ? Je n'en ai lu aucun.
Tu as des messages des jeunes (et moins jeunes) qui vont travailler aux Etats Unis avec l'ESTA, qui partent faire un stage ou des séjours linguistiques avec l'ESTA, alors que l'ESTA est réservé aux séjours touristiques.
Tu as tous ceux qui vont au Canada ou au Mexique pour "remettre les compteurs à zéro"....
Pour certains ça passe, pour d'autre ça casse 😉
Nous allons 2 à 3x par an aux Etats Unis.
A part quelques questions sur nos voyages précédents, aucun problème.
Que Tonytoon se s'inquiète pas inutilement, s'il est en règle tout se passera bien.
non..
mais la question c'est est ce que c'est possible.. et donc la réponse c'est oui..
et partout aux us;.
est ce que cela arrive dans des cas normaux.. non.. mais est ce que c'est possible la réponse est oui.. l'immigration us est souveraine dans son droit ou pas d'accepter des ressortissants étrangers sur son territoire.. esta ou pas
et .. dès que quelqu'un se pose la question d'un refus avec passeport et esta.. c'est que y'a un truc derrière..
moi perso je me pose pas la question et c'est ma 5e fois:)
Dans tous les cas ESTA ou VISA c'est l'officier d'immigration qui décide de votre entrée .
L'ESTA n'est qu'une autorisation de voyage et non pas un blanc sein pour entrée .
Il y a bien des non admis , qui reprennent l'avion.
N'occultons pas le fait que le "raison" n'a pas à être justifiée, contrairement aux normes des Etats européens. Le risque d'arbitraire est réel.
La conséquence est tout de même que la plupart des établissements scolaires et institutions en France ne prennent plus le risque d'envoyer des étudiants ou des élèves aux Etats-Unis.
Michel
merci
c est toujours énervant de se faire quasi insulter quand on dit un truc vrai
après est ce que cela arrive souvent non..
est ce que cela peut arriver.. oui
est ce qu'il y a une raison.. bien sur que oui..
Moi aussi j'arrête. 😎
C'est quand même dingue de régler ses petits comptes par MP quand on n'apprécie pas une réponse... Et de jouer à celle qui ne comprends pas en message public !!!
Bon WE à tous
bonjour
pour aller aux us il faut faire un passeport et l'esta
après il faut que l'officier de l'immigration vous pose des questions et qu'il vous accepte
si vous avez menti sur l'esta il peut vous refuser. c'est pour cela que c'est à sa discretion
je vois que mon intervention a créé une polémique, et c'était pas vraiment mon intention.
Je vais essayer de replacer les choses : Dans mon message, je considérais une personne avec passeport valide ainsi qu'un ESTA valide et qui a prévu de transiter ou de visiter les USA, pour une durée inférieure à 90 jours, en touriste (donc sans prévoir de travailler ''au noir''). Bref le touriste ''de base'', comme la majorité des touristes!!
Oui, les agents de l'immigration US ont le dernier mot mais dans un cas ''normal'' (cité çi dessus) je ne vois pas pourquoi avec un passeport valide et un ESTA valide notre TOURISTE serait refoulé!
Maintenant les ''pseudos'' touristes qui envisagent de rester 6 mois aux US avec travail au noir à la clé, et qui entrent sur le territoire US avec un simple ESTA......c'est une autre affaire!!
Bref pour en revenir à la question initiale, si notre ami a prévu (comme indiqué) de transiter par les USA, il aura besoin d'un passeport valide et d'un ESTA valide, que cela lui plaise ou non!
"Homme libre, toujours tu chériras la mer" (Baudelaire)
pas tout compris
maintenant pour ne pas se perdre sur le sujet
oui il faut un esta en transit aux usa
et c'est cela l’essentiel.
ensuite c'est l'officier à l'immigration qui valide
OK pour l ESTA, indispensable déjà pour monter dans l'avion à destination des USA en transit ou non...
Le risque de se faire refouler, dans des conditions normales, est quasi epsilonien...
Sinon, ben, ça se sent bien dans le post ..... 😕
C'est aujourd'hui la pleine lune ( 20h12) ....... 😎
Next session: 6 septembre; que tout le monde reprenne des forces d'ici là...
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I’ll explain my situation.
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