dans l'organisation de mon voyage fin octobre - début novembre, j'ai une après-midi et une grosse matinée le lendemain pour Arches national park. Le soleil se couche tôt à cette période (vers 17h30) et il me faut donc faire des choix .
Initialement j'avais prévu Windows section et délicate arche l'après midi et Devil's garden le lendemain matin.
nous ne serons pas dans le parc avant 2 heures (matinée 4*4 avec tag a long dans canyonlands - retour vers 13 h), alors la première demi-journée me paraît dur dur.
a votre avis que faut-il privilégier ?
Qu'est-il possible de faire dans mon timing pour optimiser au mieux et quelles arches voir ?
Merci pour vos réponses
Bonjour !
Voici peut etre des pistes qui t'aideront à choisir: delicate arch : au couché du soleil slt, et la deux possibilités: soit la rando de delicate arch, dc a commencer a 16h00 histoire d'être sur de son coup, soit le point de vue de delicate arch, où on ne passe pas sous l'arche mais on la voit d'une centaine de metres, tres impressionant aussi mais bon voila on est pas sous l'arche ! a choisir...
a ce moment la, si tu veux faire l'un ou l'autre, tu peux combiner la rando avec la windows section qui ne te prendra pas plus d'une heure, une heure trente si tu prends vraiment bcp de photo ! du coup je dirai que ton apres'm pourrai etre windows + delicate arch combiné. devils garden est mon favori jdois dire.enfin si c bien la rando de Double O arch. nous on l'avait fait a 9h du mat car grosse chaleur (en juillet). sur la rando il ya landscape arch, puis double O arch. Cette partie de la rando prendra 1h30 AR max, tout dépend encore une fois du temps pr les photos:p, par contre je pense que ca vaut peut etre l'intérêt de faire le retour par le primitive trail, ce que nous avons fait. mais ATTENTION, cette rando n'est faisable qu'avec une excellente condition physique, un bon sens de l'orientation et de très bonnes chaussures à semelle vibram bien entendu !! g été un peu surprise de la rando car c limite un mélange d'escalade de saut plus ou moins périlleux et plus d'une fois g u tres peur! mais apres coup j'étais plutot fiere de moi et j'ai adoré ;p. dc voila a voir et surtout selon les conditions météo car interdit de la faire si pluie la veille !! trop glissant !. en tout devils garden puis retour par primitive trail il faut compter entre 3h et 4h ! (a ne pas faire a la tombée de la nuit, trop dangereux)
voila tu sais tout ! a toi de choisir et si tu as des questions... do not hesitate ! j'ai adoré ARCHES !!!!!!!!!!! un de mes parcs préféré avec black canyon of the gunnison ds le colorado !
J'ai cru comprendre dans un autre post que tu voyageais avec des enfants (dont une enfant de 6 ans). Je ne suis pas sûre que la rando Devil's Garden via Primitive Trail (conseillée par Merboto) soit faisable avec un enfant de cet âge. C'est une rando assez difficile ! En revanche, tu peux marcher sur Devil's Garden Trail à partir du trailhead par ex jusqu'à Double o Arch et retour par le même sentier, c'est beaucoup moins difficile et là tu verras plusieurs arches dont Lanscape et Double o Arch entre autres.
Pour Delicate Arch, il faut savoir que ça grimpe raide...(adapté pour ton enfant de 6 ans ?). Sinon, effectivement, tu peux voir l'arche de loin (moins fatiguant) et t'attarder davantage à marcher dans Windows Section et/ou Park Avenue.
A adapter selon la résistance de tes enfants après une matinée de 4x4.
Merci pour vos réponses à toutes les deux.
compte tenu des temps que vous donnez, je crois que mon timing sera bon. Par contre je vais éviter primitive trail je crois.
Ma fille aura presque 7 ans en fait et elle a l'habitude de marcher et se dépenser (nous vivons à la campagne) mais je ne veux pas non plus l'épuiser ou lui faire faire des chemins trop difficiles pour elle. En fait nous partons à 2 familles (4 adultes et 6 enfants de 16-13-12-10-10-et presque 7!), donc en fonction des envies des uns et des autres on pourra faire 2 groupes.
En tout cas merci encore à Christine pour son récit de voyage (et la réponse sur l'appareil photo).
bonjour est- ce que tu as bien fait une matinée avec tagalong en 4 4 dans canyonland ? ma fille sera là bas en aout et je voudrai lui offrir des expéditions à moab .Est-ce que celle là tu l'as trouvé suffisante pour visiter island faire des photos ect... ou as-tu trouvé qu'il est mieux d'y aller avec son propre véhicule . Si tu as quelques échos pour leur sortie 4 4 dans arches et en raft sur towers je suis interesseé aussi .Merci de me répondre
Nous avons effectivement fait la randonnée avec tag a long en novembre 2007. Nous sommes partis de Moab et avons rejoint island in the sky via les mines de potasse et la shafer trail.
c'était très bien, le chauffeur était très sympa, nous avons fait plusieurs arrêts pour voir les hiéroglophes indiens, des rochers particuliers, des fossiles et des vues magnifiques. Par contre, on n'a pas fait la route sur Island in the sky, il faut pour cela prendre la randonnée à la journée.
Bonjour,
Nous sommes 2 couples avec 3 enfants au total. Cet été, ils auront presque 7 ans pour 2 d'entre eux et 10 ans.
nous avons prévu l'itinéraire suivant et on se demande si c'est faisable tant au niveau des distances que des randonnées...ou vaut-il mieux attendre 1 an de plus afin qu'ils soient plus resistants pour encaisser les longs trajets et les randos (on est du sud mais on craint quand même la chaleur dans ce coin ci des USA en plein été!)
J1: arrivée Las vegas
J2: LV, visite, piscine
J3: route pour ZION et riverside walk
J4: Zion: emerald pool trail/repos hotel
J5: route pour Bryce canyon/sunset point
J6: queens garden trail et navajoo loop sur la fin/visite du reste du parc en voiture
J7: routre vesr page
J8: antelope canyon, baignade lac powell
J9: route et visite de monument valley
J10: route pour moab
J11: arche lands mais sans la rando pour delicate arch
J12: horseshoespoint et 1/2 journée rafting
J13: route pour salt lake city
J14: route pour jackson hole, rodeo
J15: rando dans grand teton
J16/17/18: visite yellowstone
J19: retour SLC
Toutes les journées ne sont pas volontairement remplies pour se reposer à la piscine de l'hôtel!
Je suis ouverte à ttes critiques ou propositions au sujet d'un tel itinraire avec des enfants de cet âge. On ne voudrait pas qu'ils se lassent des canyons, des randos...merci!
Mes enfants avaient 6 1/2, 10 ans et 12 ans au moment du voyage.
Ils ont assez aimé crapahuté dans les rochers, les ballades n'ont pas parues longues dans la plupart des cas.
A Zion, nous avons fait la visite après le tunnel (je ne me souviens plus du nom) pas trop longue et sympa.
Pour Bryce, nous avons pareil que ce que tu as prévu. C'est un bon vompromis entre distance et découverte du lieu par ailleurs magique ! le plus beau du coin à mon avis
a Moab, nous avons fait 2 ballades dans Arches (celle où tu vois plusieurs arches) et le point de vue sur délicate arch au coucher de soleil (moins longue et pas mal pour le point de vue).
gloalement ce qu'ils ont trouvé long ce sont les trajets et il faut penser à les occuper car ils se lassent très rapidement des paysages (surtout qu'il y a quelques bonnes lignes droits dans votre trajet...).
sinon, cela me semble assez équilibré, au moins jusqu'à MOAB car après je n'ai pas fait. Après tout dépend des dates auxquelles vous partez. Nous avons fait ce voyage aux vacances de toussaint, nous n'avons donc pas souffert de la chaleur.
question : c'est un choix de zapper Grand Canyon ?
Pour la période, ce sera effectivement en plein été, par conséquent, il faudra gérer la chaleur pendant les randos...
Pour le Grand canyon, en effet, c'est un choix de le zapper car tous les adultes du voyage l'ont déjà vu lors d'un précédent voyage et donc, nous préferons retirer cette visite car les autres parcs, même moins connus, semblent plus beaux et pour diversifier un peu en faisant plutôt le yellowstone.
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Hi everyone,
I’m leaving on Monday, August 3rd for my very first long-distance trek: the GR223 from Coutances to Mont Saint-Michel, over 6-7 days (~11-14 miles/day), solo.
I’m looking for tips from people who know this section well (Coutances → Regnéville-sur-Mer → Hauteville-sur-Mer → Bréhal → Granville → Genêts → bay crossing):
Budget-friendly accommodations: I’m struggling to find affordable stopover lodgings (a lot of what I find online are expensive vacation rentals, not really suited for a solo hiker). If you have any great spots (hostels, hiker-friendly B&Bs, nice campgrounds), I’d love to hear them!
Bay crossing: Any feedback on guides/providers leaving from Genêts for the final crossing?
General tips for a first long-distance trek: What you wish you’d known before your first time, pitfalls to avoid, etc.
Hi,
We’re planning to do the 4-day trek from Mestia to Ushguli without an agency. The descriptions mention that there are accommodations at each stop, but we can’t find any details about them. Has anyone got info or feedback on this route?
I'm developing a free and open-source web app for planning walking and cycling trips (and even car trips). You can create a route by clicking directly on the map to add waypoints, and it can consist of multiple stages. The app provides tools to edit the stages and the overall route, and to display useful information (distances, altitudes, and elevation changes). A relief profile can be shown as a graph for a specific stage or the entire route.
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
New to this forum, I’m planning a pretty big project for 2028.
I’m heading to Nepal to do a trek from Kathmandu all the way to Everest Base Camp (a cool 5,300 m 😄).
This trek is a bit special because even though I’ll be part of a group, I’m going solo (so far, no problem—I’m used to it). But it’s my first real trek, and it’s also a humanitarian one: once I reach base camp, I’ll stay an extra week to help clean up the waste left by tens of thousands of climbers! Since I’m originally from South America, from two countries that share the Andes, I have a deep respect for mountains—they fascinate me. So Everest… it’s kind of the trip of a lifetime!
So, a little question for those who’ve done treks to Everest before… any tips for good mental preparation (I’m already working on the physical side)?
We're planning to trek in Peru and Bolivia and would love to find some local agencies.
If you know any, could you share details on prices and, of course, the names of the agencies?
Which trek would you recommend?
Elocine
I'm heading out on a fully self-sufficient trek in Morocco (10 days) from Imilchil to Aghbalou.
Can I find screw-on gas canisters (Coleman, Primus) in Marrakech (any addresses?) or in villages between Imilchil and Aghbalou?
If not, are Butagaz canisters for camping gas (small 230g size) available?
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hello, I’d like to embark on a little trip in my home country, Switzerland. I’ll start walking from La Cure, heading toward Le Noirmont first, then I’ll improvise my route—but it’ll probably follow the French border... at least as far as Lac de Joux.
I’ll decide day by day how much farther to go after that. My goal is to stay in nature as much as possible, wander around for as long as I can, and restock food in villages or towns along the way.
I’m thinking of mostly camping, but we’ll see if I end up in a hotel or another campsite depending on my route.
I’d love to reach La Chaux-de-Fonds on foot... maybe even Delémont.
The whole thing should take about a week, give or take.
I’ll be bringing my dog, and I’m preparing for this as soon as I’m ready.
Any tips to make sure everything goes smoothly for us? Things I should know—or avoid? What about shepherds with their flocks of sheep? And isn’t hunting season open right now?
I’m not sure if what I’m planning is even doable, which is why I’m asking around.
This’ll be my first time doing something like this—wandering in nature *and* with a dog. I’m really excited for this adventure... and I need it. Thanks!
We’re really keen on ecosystems and want to hike in "natural" ancient forests—not planted woods or areas heavily degraded by human activity. Travel guides (like Lonely Planet) don’t provide much info on this. Could you point us to the most interesting spots?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
We wish you happy holidays and a fantastic 2026, full of discoveries!
Claire and Albert
Hi, this might not be the right section, but I’d like to know if it’s possible to start mountaineering with another person without necessarily hiring a guide. We’ve done quite a bit of hiking but not mountaineering—we’ll just do a half-day glacier course. After that, we were thinking of starting with La Grande Motte and the Pointe de la Traversière, which were recommended to us. Honestly, for things like roping up and knots, I’ll learn at home with lots of videos and a book.
I’d love to know if anyone has done treks in the Rwenzori Mountains and how much it costs on average, what the infrastructure is like, the landscapes, and safety in the area. Thanks so much! I’m really looking forward to your replies.
We’re leaving in 9 days for a two-week trip to Madeira, mainly to hike.
From my research, I’ve found that since last year, access to most trails—and systematically for the most popular ones—is now paid. You have to pay an access fee of 4.50 € per person per classified hike in 2026, and even 10.50 € for the most iconic hike: Pico Arieiro to Pico Ruivo. When paying, you also have to choose a day and a 30-minute time slot for your start time. Of course, this reservation is neither changeable nor refundable, even if the weather that day is terrible.
Personally, given the massive influx of tourists to the island in recent years, I don’t mind paying a fee to help maintain the trails. Similarly, setting a limit on the number of people who can hike them per day is certainly preferable to preserve this priceless heritage.
However, what’s much less fair is that in reality, most of the available spots are reserved: 1/ for Madeira residents (which is normal); 2/ for "economic operators" (meaning local tour operators). For example, if you’re a non-resident (independent tourist), no booking is possible for the Pico Arieiro hike for an early morning start before September! So, unfortunately, we’ll have to skip this hike.
It’s the same issue for Ponta de São Lourenço, the 25 Fontes, Pico Ruivo... in short, all the most popular hikes. Oh well, we’ll skip those too!
So my question is: which hikes do you recommend where we won’t face the huge crowds that the others get? And where we can book the day before for the next day, taking the weather into account?
Finally, a quick accommodation question: we’ve booked the first week in Funchal, but I haven’t decided yet for the second week. Do you have any advice on where to stay in the south or north, preferably avoiding overly concrete-heavy and touristy spots?
I’m reposting about the logistics for Samaria Gorge.
I’d love to get recent info, especially about whether it’s possible to park my car in Omalos, do the hike, and then catch a bus back to my vehicle.
In theory, it’s doable, but when you check the KTEL website, there aren’t any feasible schedules listed. If anyone has recently organized this with reliable, verified details, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
We’re flying from Montreal to Lyon this August to go hiking in the French Alps. We’ve rented a car and will be staying at campgrounds. We’re planning to do day hikes and want to stay a few days in one spot, do a few hikes, then move on to our next camping spot. Could you share your favorite spots or any recommendations for places to spend a few days with great hikes?
A few details:
We arrive in early August and leave in early September.
We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery!
We’d prefer not to drive too much—maybe it’s best not to head too far south and deal with unnecessary heat?
Along the same lines, if you know of any great campgrounds where we can start our hike directly without needing the car, we’d love to hear your suggestions!
Hi there,
I’m planning to go hiking on this island and would like to know the best time to do it. I visited for a few days in November 2018—not for hiking but just to explore—and the weather wasn’t great, especially in the mountains. So, is a star-shaped itinerary doable if I rent a car and maybe use two different accommodations?
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations.
Thanks so much for your tips!
I’m planning to do the Mercantour crossing following the Randoxygène route in mid-July.
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Can anyone give me some info on this?
Thanks!
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there?
A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions?
For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip...
Thanks for your tips!
Have a great day,
Anie, Toulouse
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice?
Best regards,
Hi there, I’m planning the Annapurna Circuit for March 2027 and I’m looking for a local agency with a local guide—preferably French-speaking—to arrange this trek for us. Any suggestions? Thanks
Hello!
We’re spending a few days in Toraja country at the end of May. We’d love to do a day trek—taking our time—on a route that’s stunning in terms of scenery, but not a level 5 in difficulty!
Any suggestions you can share, please?
Thanks in advance
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish.
I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips?
Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina?
At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
I’m traveling solo by plane to Catania in May and plan to hike the northern side of Etna, starting from Linguaglossa where I’ll arrive by bus. After that, I’d love some info on how to get up to Piano Provenzana (shuttles or hitchhiking), since it seems there’s no public transport except in the summer. Can you sleep there in a free or cheap refuge, or camp? And how far up can you go without having to hire a guide? Thanks in advance. Bernard.
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Morocco in August and we’ll start with a stop in Chefchaouen (we’re driving).
My question: can anyone suggest a 5-to-7-day loop hiking route from Chefchaouen in Talassemtane Park, ideally passing by the God’s Bridge? Or a paper guidebook that covers a few options?
We prefer wild camping and guesthouses.
Thanks in advance
Hi there, for those who’ve been recently—is it possible to find other solo travelers in March on the island to share transport or room costs? It doesn’t seem easy to travel on a budget.
If you have any recommendations for simple lodgings or places with dorms, I’d love to hear them.
For those who’ve done multi-day treks while moving around: do you need to bring your own sleeping bag? I’d love to hear about itineraries you’ve done without a guide, just with a map and GPS.
Thanks, and have a great day!
Hi everyone!
We’re planning a 15-day road trip to Scotland this summer, specifically to explore and hike on Lewis and Harris—places we’ve never been before. We’ve visited other islands on previous road trips in Scotland (we usually go in April for a week). This would be our first time in Scotland in the summer and for 15 days. We’re looking at late August to early September.
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands.
Thanks!
Hi there, I’m trying to leave for 15 days very soon to São Vicente. I’m either looking to join an agency or figure things out on my own to go hiking on one of these islands or both. From what I’ve seen, it’s not easy to organize with local transport, so it gets expensive. Can I use the services of a small local agency? I’m looking for the simplest way to hike for several days. Also, how do you get from São Vicente to São Nicolau? Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Aichatou
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili.
Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?)
There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4.
If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit.
if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
